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Safeties will be asked to do a lot more

While much of the focus on the Redskins' transition from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 base has been on the line and linebackers, the implementation of new coordinator Jim Haslett's scheme has brought big changes in the secondary as well.

Earlier this offseason, safety LaRon Landry said he would be playing more strong safety than he had in past years. Coaches say that is more the result of the new responsibilities for safeties, who will be asked to do more than they have in past years.

Safeties coach Steve Jackson said that unlike past years, when the group was playing a specific coverage on certain plays, this year they will be mixing and matching those coverages. The players are expected to do more than they ever have.

The free and strong safety positions are "interchangeable" Jackson said. On one play, the "strong" safety may be close to the line and on the next he may be playing deep coverage.

"Safeties have got to do everything, just like the corners have to do everything," defensive backs coach Bob Slowik said. "They'll do every kind of coverage technique probably they've ever experienced before. They'll be deep, they'll be in the box, they'll blitz, they'll not blitz, so it's just a multitude of things that they have to be proficient at."

Though Landry no longer will be playing deep in the center of the field on nearly every play, as he did last season, it doesn't mean he'll be a strong safety in the traditional sense.

"I can't say the strong safety is a way back, throwback strong safety and he's always in the box," Slowik said. "No, that's not the case."

The new responsibilities at safety have created an open competition within the unit that includes veteran Reed Doughty, Chris Horton and Kareem Moore.

Doughty went on injured reserve at the end of last season with an ankle injury but said he has fully recovered and is working to get up to speed on the nuances of the new defense. The former sixth-round draft pick started nine games last season after returning from back surgery in 2008, posting a career-high 93 tackles with two sacks and one interception.

Doughty, who signed his tender offer Wednesday, seemed excited about the changes and, like his coaches, highlighted how much more the safeties will be asked to do this season.

"With free and strong kind of being interchangeable, you throw dime in there and blitzing, covering man-to-man, playing deep, it's a matter of being versatile" he said.

By Paul Tenorio  |  May 28, 2010; 11:29 AM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense  
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Posted by: Risa_L | May 28, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

That is must see TV every year! But seriously, the Gators recruit better than any college in Fl. which leaves the other teams scraping for the leftovers.. and btw USF is starting to get a lot of them, with the addition of Skip Holtz... They are a team to watch out for in the Big East this year.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 28, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

USF has been a team to watch in the BE the past few years, until November when they have their annual collapse. Skip will hopefully get them over that hump. Levitt infused a lot into that program but his act got old, and a but creepy. It did not surprise me when i heard the news about him. If Skip can keep that teams focus up during league play they will be okay. But this will be a tough year for them. They lost so much of their D-line and lbs which have been the best parts of their D, and defense has really been their identity so far.
BE should have some tough teams this year w Pitt, WV, and cincy. I would expect all of them to finish better then the bulls. Though i wouldn't be surprised to see them break out of their second half rut this year because aside from the gators they are doing the best job of recruiting FLA,one of the most talent rich areas in the nation.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 28, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

*basketball post*

Shame dudes are still hating on Kobe for beating the ALLEGED and FRAUDULENT rape charge. MoFo's must've been thinking: 'Awww sh*t, not again!'

Why else would you hate they guy? All he does is win.

Arrogance?

Show me ANY all-time great NBA player that wasn't arrogant?

Threw teammates under the bus?

Jordan threw his teammates all the time, but people conveniently seem to forget about that.

Outside what do you have? WHAT?!?!?!

Keep the hate up haters. It only fuels the dude. Man is the best doing it since MJ and is easily one of the top three Lakers of all time.

Get over it.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 1:11 AM |

i was just reading over this and maybe I missed it but during this discussion last night no one said anything about hating Kobe because he's arrogant or because he throws people under the bus. Just wondering where you got that. Maybe I didn't read back far enough or this was from a previous discussion but all that was said is that Kobe is a giant doosh and has a much better supporting cast than Lebron.

*end basketball post*

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Risa_L | May 28, 2010 11:34 AM

And you're directing this to me because.....

...I am highly educated?

...I got great Hustle and Flow skills?

...I keep a tight shape up?

...I'm a cool dude?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 28, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

From what I've been reading, it seems this defense should be fun to watch. Hopefully, the results will be as expected.

Posted by: TWISI | May 28, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

And you're directing this to me because.....

...I am highly educated?

...I got great Hustle and Flow skills?

...I keep a tight shape up?

...I'm a cool dude?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 28, 2010 11:48 AM

...Because you and I still own one Will Smith cd.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 28, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | May 28, 2010 11:48 AM

with you on that, but be prepared to get burned in the secondary every so often if we're going to be as aggressive and flexible as Haslett/Jackson suggest.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Seeing as how LL repeatedly got toasted last year when he had only ONE responsibility, i.e., covering the deep middle of the field, why does this post not fill me with confidence?

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 28, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 11:46 AM

Seeing as you don't know the man personally (or anyone who knows him personally), upon what do you base your opinion that he's a "doosh"?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

...Because you and I still own one Will Smith cd.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 28, 2010 11:54 AM

What can I say? HE drops classics...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0dCVwdedE

When I was in school (Middle and High), if the teacher ever started off with the words, 'Ok. Here's the situation...' we would always cut in with , 'My parents went away on a week's vacation. They left the keys to the brand new Porsche. Would they mind? Umm, well, of course not.'

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 28, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Seeing as how LL repeatedly got toasted last year when he had only ONE responsibility, i.e., covering the deep middle of the field, why does this post not fill me with confidence?

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 28, 2010 11:57 AM |

Im with you.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 11:46 AM

Seeing as you don't know the man personally (or anyone who knows him personally), upon what do you base your opinion that he's a "doosh"?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 12:02 PM |

Specifically that lower jaw thing he does when he thinks he's bad but actually makes him look like a doosh. I thought I made that clear in the previous discussion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Risa_L | May 28, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Specifically that lower jaw thing he does when he thinks he's bad but actually makes him look like a doosh. I thought I made that clear in the previous discussion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 12:12 PM |

Couldn't agree more. Or how about the tongue wiggle? I think it's just the general "face making" that bothers me. I find it akin to Laron Landry's posing and dancing after weak tackles on chain-moving runs last year. One difference is Kobe is really really good. But, he seems like a doosh. And, to me, so did M Jordan, for what it's worth.

Posing/making faces = doosh.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

In addition to the jaw thing, all those lame commercials years back. Riding the motorcyle, speaking Italian etc. He wants to be Jordan so bad he does all his mannerisms. Acting all hard and saying he came from Philly. No, he grew up in Europe while his dad played ball. Great player but definitely a d-bag.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | May 28, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

After watching these playoffs, it shouldn't be a discussion who the best player in the NBA is. The only reason Lebron is even considered is because he's the best athlete in the league and because Kobe has lost a little bounce in his legs. In every other aspect of talent, Kobe trumps Lebron by a mile. He has no weakness to his game. Kobe is an unsolvable riddle. He can run the offense from the point, he can play off the ball, he can beat you off the dribble, he can post you up, he can shoot the 3, he can shoot the midrange, he can finish at the rim with both hands, he can shoot with hands in his face, he can shoot in traffic, he can shoot off-balance, on a fadeaway, or on the move to both his right and left, he can run in transition, he can defend 3 positions on the ball, and he can help-defend from the weakside, he's clutch, and most of all, he's a winner.

I'm rooting for the Suns BIG time in this series, but I'm simply in awe when I watch Kobe play. All you can do is hope to stymie the other 4 positions and outscore the Lakers on the other end. Lebron has a LONG way to go before he skims the surface of Kobe (despite what his numbers tell you).

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Seeing as you don't know the man personally (or anyone who knows him personally), upon what do you base your opinion that he's a "doosh"?

Posted by: learnedhand1

He went out and did that woman in Colorado -- and then to make it up to his wife -- bought her a $4million ring. Which made it way too expensive for the rest of us to mess up. That doosh.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Do you like apples?

cause I'd take Durant over Lebron..

How about dem apples.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 28, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

LaRon should be playing ILB... or FG kick holder, than again if we snapped the ball to him he would dive for it and miss.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 28, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

As one Eagles lineman loses weight, another gains weight
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 28, 2010 10:54 AM ET
Philadelphia Eagles offensive lineman Max Jean-Gilles weighed in at 388 pounds at the time that he met with a doctor as part of his preparation for lap-band surgery. The doctor told him a healthy weight for him would be 270, and he said there was no chance of that.

"I would look sick," Jean-Gilles said. "Me? 270?"

But Jean-Gilles did agree to have the procedure, and he's already lost 30 pounds, with 38 more to lose to reach his goal of 320.

"Weight is not going to be an issue for me this year," Jean-Gilles told the Philadelphia Daily News.

==============================================

Wouldn't getting this 'lap-band' procedure be performance enhancing?? Where can the line be drawn?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 28, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

After his Colorado "rape" or whatever it was... his extramarital sex, let's say, Kobe justified it... by indicating that Shaq does the same thing.

C'mon, man. Pleeze.

doosh.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"With free and strong kind of being interchangeable, you throw dime in there and blitzing, covering man-to-man, playing deep, it's a matter of being versatile" he said."

Everything Laron Landry can't do.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

this day can't end fast enough....can't wait, I'm headed up to New Hampshire for the weekend/Monday, gonna fish, canoe, ride the 4-wheeler, and sit in the deer stand....and take a few naps here and there......come on 5 o'clock

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Goodness gracious --> Good God
Jeepers Creepers --> Jesus Christ
Sacré bleu --> Sang de Dieu (God's blood)

Posted by: 4thFloor

"Godfrey Daniels"--William claude Dukenfield

Posted by: TheCork | May 28, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

He went out and did that woman in Colorado -- and then to make it up to his wife -- bought her a $4million ring. Which made it way too expensive for the rest of us to mess up. That doosh.
Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 12:37 PM

Funny…..wife and I were actually out at dinner with friends last night and were told of some people we sort of know who recently reconciled after the husband had cheated on her. In therapy she was allowed to list all of her demands….full knowledge of the discretions, constant contact, etc. And a new (big) ring. After a pause, my wife said “so he pulled a Kobe, huh?” Good stuff.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 28, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Still don’t get how switching to a 3-4, or 3-4 hybrid is “going to create more turnovers”…..doesn’t it come down to pressuring the qb, catching interceptable balls and tackling in a manner which actually causes fumbles and then actually pouncing on the ball? Does the 3-4 cause the ball when fumbled to bounce right to one of our guys, whereas the 4-3 caused it to bounce right to the other team? This one is a head scratcher to me……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 28, 2010 10:14 AM

"catching interceptable balls"

Did you hear that CR22??? That would mean hanging on to all those balls that hit you in the hands. That would mean snatching those ones that hit you right between the 2's. That would mean not dropping all those passes that could have turned into you walking into the endzone for 6. Yes CR22, if you want to know why you didn't get "paid" this offseason, that would be the reason.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | May 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Funny…..wife and I were actually out at dinner with friends last night and were told of some people we sort of know who recently reconciled after the husband had cheated on her. In therapy she was allowed to list all of her demands….full knowledge of the discretions, constant contact, etc. And a new (big) ring. After a pause, my wife said “so he pulled a Kobe, huh?” Good stuff.

Posted by: dlhaze1

See, women get that Kobe raised the bar for every guy that messes up

Never a good thing when your mess-up takes you off the flower chart (being late, forgetting an important day, yes you look fat in that, etc) and you need to use the jewelry chart to get the job done.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

this day can't end fast enough....can't wait, I'm headed up to New Hampshire for the weekend/Monday, gonna fish, canoe, ride the 4-wheeler, and sit in the deer stand....and take a few naps here and there......come on 5 o'clock
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 28, 2010 12:45 PM

We just got the word to leave 2 hrs early. We will be at the beach through Tuesday.
Gonna drink bourbon.
Gonna drink scotch.
Gonna drink beer.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 28, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Still don’t get how switching to a 3-4, or 3-4 hybrid is “going to create more turnovers”…..doesn’t it come down to pressuring the qb, catching interceptable balls and tackling in a manner which actually causes fumbles and then actually pouncing on the ball? Does the 3-4 cause the ball when fumbled to bounce right to one of our guys, whereas the 4-3 caused it to bounce right to the other team? This one is a head scratcher to me……

Posted by: dlhaze1

the 3-4 is supposed to be faster, with up to 8 players in coverage. Its also less predictable which LBs (and how many) might rush the passer. Also, easier to double a blitz spot (two guys coming through the same gap), which is a difficult blitz to pick-up. Also, it lets guys who rush more effectively from a standing start to do that.

All in all, its supposed to be more confusing for the OL, the RB doing blitz pickup and the QB. And this consufsion is supposed to create mistakes that result in turnovers.

There is something to this philosophy, especially if you've got a hybrid LB/DL sort.

Me? I prefer the 4-3 because it gives you a better push at the line. Power vs speed -- and at the line of scrimmage, its about power.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Apparently the Raiders are loving JC17 down in Oakland. And some of you thought we had it bad at the QB position last year. Check out some of these quotes when it comes to JC17 vs. Russell:

"Every Jason Campbell pass soared through the Alameda air as an on-target spiral, once a rarity on the Raiders' practice field...

So expect [LT Mario] Henderson to enter the season as the starter at left tackle, a role he wants for the next "1,000 years" with the Raiders. As for last year, he struggled at times, but he was a junkyard dog, asked to protect Russell.

The addition of Campbell as an accurate, efficient and mobile quarterback makes life easier for Henderson and his linemates.

"It's crazy. For him to be able to come here, be able to grasp the offense and take control of it as fast as he did, it's amazing," Henderson said of Campbell. "It just goes to show you the type of guy he is and the type of hard worker and studier he is."

If that sounds like the opposite of Russell, wait until you read the following Henderson quote:

"Now I can get adjusted as to where (Campbell) steps up in the pocket, (and) I know he's accurate, as far if it's a seven-step drop, I know he'll take seven; if it's five (steps), I know he's going to take five. That's good to be accurate."

Russell's baffling footwork in the pocket was among his many faults. Campbell is so smooth, and he doesn't look winded or inconvenienced when he scrambles out of the pocket."

Just thank god we never had to endure a tenure like that of Russell over here. He makes Heath Shuler look like a viable NFL starter.

I think Oakland has a real shot at becoming a legit playoff contender out there. When you simply look at the upgrade Campbell gives them over Russell, they have the chance to turn those 5 wins into .500 or above.

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_15169114?nclick_check=1

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

this day can't end fast enough....can't wait, I'm headed up to New Hampshire for the weekend/Monday, gonna fish, canoe, ride the 4-wheeler, and sit in the deer stand....and take a few naps here and there......come on 5 o'clock
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 28, 2010 12:45 PM

We just got the word to leave 2 hrs early. We will be at the beach through Tuesday.
Gonna drink bourbon.
Gonna drink scotch.
Gonna drink beer.

Posted by: dlhaze1

Have fun. Me, I'll be watching my Big Red fight for the lacrosse championship, semis are tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be talking smack in a few days (it'll definitely be more smack than a lacrosse championship merits). Of course, last year we blew a 3 goal lead in the last 5 minutes and lost the championship game in OT. There's a reason we've not won a championship in ANY sport in over 30 years (and yes, I WAS there the last time it happened)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

From what I've been reading, it seems this defense should be fun to watch. Hopefully, the results will be as expected.

Posted by: TWISI | May 28, 2010 11:48 AM

We're going to get to watch the defense a lot if the O-line doesn't come together quickly. Last year, our we went through our RB depth chart as each guy got smacked down with injuries, and we just happened to have a QB who could withstand significant punishment.

It's still about the O-line.


Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Have fun. Me, I'll be watching my Big Red fight for the lacrosse championship, semis are tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be talking smack in a few days (it'll definitely be more smack than a lacrosse championship merits). Of course, last year we blew a 3 goal lead in the last 5 minutes and lost the championship game in OT. There's a reason we've not won a championship in ANY sport in over 30 years (and yes, I WAS there the last time it happened)
Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:24 PM

Haven’t followed it since UNC knocked out my Blue Hens, but if it’s on in a bar, I’ll prolly watch some.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

beantown

"....this day can't end fast enough...I'm headed up to New Hampshire for the weekend/Monday, gonna fish, canoe, ride the 4-wheeler, and sit in the deer stand....and take a few naps here and there..."


I'm jealous.

Life in Florida doesn't afford these rustic pleasures.

The failed economy has our poor living in foreclosed upon mansions.

Our homeless are arrogant and call the cops when you toss change instead of paper money their way.

Northern cities have museums.

Florida cities have Wal-Marts and pawn shops.

Strippers here have unions and mugshots of NFL players to be on the lookout for.

I intend to go to the beach this Memorial Day weekend and count the people running to freedom just after they jump off whatever raft they left their homeland in.

The stores here have the occasional printing in English to help those of us who can't speak the native language.

Whatever that is.

People in Louisiana are upset that oil is washing up on their shores.

Maybe they should stop whining and open up a Jffy Lube or two.

Floridians collect the bales of cocaine or weed that we find in the sand and realize we've got a chance to get paid.

And so, we're up for three weeks celebrating until our hearts explode.

I envy Northerners who can traipse into the calming woods like Thoreau and find peace while we Floridians find fun only in waving good-bye the license plates of cars headed back to where ever it is snowbirds come from.

So I'm jealous of you this weekend, Bean, as you'll be one with Nature.

And I'll be out on the beach, hoping to hit the lottery.

Or counting illegal immigrants hoping to enjoy freedom that's not free.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"Apparently the Raiders are loving JC17 down in Oakland."

We've posted this before and willpost it again: Jason Campbell will make Al Davis look like a genius....

....instead of Darth Vader.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

....I think Oakland has a real shot at becoming a legit playoff contender out there. When you simply look at the upgrade Campbell gives them over Russell, they have the chance to turn those 5 wins into .500 or above.

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_15169114?nclick_check=1

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 1:20 PM
..................

wow...that campbell guy sounds pretty good - and he's not too old either. any chance we could trade for him?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I think Oakland has a real shot at becoming a legit playoff contender out there. When you simply look at the upgrade Campbell gives them over Russell, they have the chance to turn those 5 wins into .500 or above.

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_15169114?nclick_check=1

Posted by: psps23

I read that (Merc is my hometown paper). Campbell -- and for that matter McNabb -- are both examples of one person's trash being another person's treasure (in this case, person=fan base).

But the Raiders have so many problems. Their QBs were sacked more than the Skins QBs last year. Campbell won't solve their OL problem.

The Raiders had 5 wins last year, one more than us. But .... we gave up 70 more points than we scored. The Raiders gave up a staggering 182 points than they scored (3rd worst -- the 2 teams behind them had 3 wins -- combined). In their 5 wins, the biggest victory margin was 4. 7 of their losses were by 2 TDs or more.

The 5 wins plus upgrades sounds like a good thing. But the Raiders played more like a 2 win team.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I think we'll be seeing a lot of Lorenzo Alexander at LB this year:

"I think he's been awesome," Haslett said. "I mean, the guy's awesome. He's been unbelievable. He's a better athlete that I would've ever guessed. If you told me [that] last year he played a three-technique, I woulda never guessed it. If you said he played linebacker, I woulda said he played linebacker. He's 275 pounds, he's ideal size for the position, he's got good rush ability, and he's unbelievably smart, he's tough as nails ... I mean, I love the guy. I think the guy's outstanding."

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 28, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

We've posted this before and willpost it again: Jason Campbell will make Al Davis look like a genius....

....instead of Darth Vader.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't even think the guys from "Nip Tuck" could pull that one off

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 28, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Oakland fans have been saying that Campbell doesn't have the receivers he had in DC.

Randle El? 'Tana Moss?
Mighty Mice.

Cooley and Davis were decent TEs.

But, it's not like he had the Posse or something.

At receiver, Height matters. As much or more than speed, in some cases.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"I think Oakland has a real shot at becoming a legit playoff contender out there."


I don't know about all of that.

Campbell will make the raiders more competitive this year.

The raiders defense is decent and nothing more.

But the team has a young receiving group, shaky offensive, and no apparent dominate running back as D McFadden appears to be the next bust on Al Davis's shelf.

Then there's that whole instability, weird management thingy that dooms any succees the team might be on the brink of.

But in terms of protecting forward, yes:

Campbell will play well enough to earn the payday he couldn't get in D.C..

And in another season, he might be the leader of a very capable offense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

...But the Raiders have so many problems. Their QBs were sacked more than the Skins QBs last year. Campbell won't solve their OL problem...


Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 1:42 PM


The Raiders and Skins are flip sides of the same coin. Both teams lack stability and as such, have lacked a consistent direction over the years. I don't know much about Russell, but it sounds like he was rather lazy (didn't study the plays) and let himself get out of shape. Campbell won't give them that problem.

We can pretend the Skins are a far superior team, but the Raiders went to the SB in 2002. Both teams have problems, and both teams are hoping a new QB will go a long way towards fixing those problems (or at least bring in more fans).

It's possible both teams are right, and the QB change will garner more wins. But I think Russell was a significant problem for the Raiders, whereas Campbell was not the Skins biggest problem.

Either way, they're both employing similar strategies.


Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but Raiders are in for another sad season of severe disappointment. While they will be pleased to finally be rid of Russell, they haven't really improved much with JC17.

Posted by: Vic1 | May 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

This will be a problem based on past performance. Unless they suddenly got smarter, how can taking on more when they couldn't handle less a good thing? Laron was already looking/playing confused...

Posted by: kahlua87 | May 28, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jumping Jehosaphat!

Posted by: Vic1 | May 28, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

We've posted this before and willpost it again: Jason Campbell will make Al Davis look like a genius....

....instead of Darth Vader.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 1:35 PM |

Campbell exhibited definite deficiencies as the Skins QB. Maybe he will improve a lot with the Raiders. Given their OL and WR corps and lack of a running game it will be nothing short of a minor miracle if he does.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Brian Westbrook Wants To Join Redskins
Former Philadelphia Eagles start Brian Westbrook says he wants to be part of the Washington Redskins organization.

There is one catch: the Redskins have not offered Westbrook a contract.

Westbrook told NFL.com that he had a great interview in Washington two weeks ago and he really wants to play in D.C.

"It went really well," Westbrook said of his talk with the Redskins. "I enjoyed them and the coaching staff. I'd love to be a part of that organization. They have a quality organization -- I just have to find out if I can fit into their system."

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/eagles/052810-brian-westbrook-wants-to-join-redskins

Posted by: Curzon417 | May 28, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 12:44 PM

What he said was that he should pay chicks like Shaq does so that he wouldn't be in the mess in which he found himself. During a conversation with police, he just used Shaq's MO as a example of how he could have avoided the false accusation. Kobe's not experienced with the police so he didn't know the cops were playing him early on by keeping everything casual and making it appear that they were his buddies trying to clear things up in his favor. He wasn't snitching on Shaq. And you probably have never been accused of a serious felony so you don't know what you would say in the same or similar situation. I have seen many a tough guy name names, places, and times when the heat was on.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Jim Haslett confident his personnel will execute the new defense

After two mini-camps and two sessions of organized team activities, defensive coordinator Jim Haslett says he's confident Washington has the players to execute the scheme effectively.

Don't know that much about Haslett as DC. He doesn't seem to be the "defensive guru" type that you have with Grilliams or Kiffin. Don't necessarily need that but let's hope when he says he's confident his personnel will execute with the new defense that he is including his assistants as well as his players. But so far things seem to be a definite upgrade over Blahche.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but Raiders are in for another sad season of severe disappointment. While they will be pleased to finally be rid of Russell, they haven't really improved much with JC17.

Posted by: Vic1

Half true. Campbell is a massive improvement at QB, but Oakland is a very very bad team. They won 5 games last year, but played more like a 2 win team. In their 11 losses, the average margin of defeat was 18 points a game. Yuck!!

The Raiders could improve a lot -- and win 4 games.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 1:20 PM

I like your tenacity. You're like a dog with a bone when it comes to JC. Although I am not hopeful, there's always a chance he could help the Raiders.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Campbell exhibited definite deficiencies as the Skins QB. Maybe he will improve a lot with the Raiders. Given their OL and WR corps and lack of a running game it will be nothing short of a minor miracle if he does.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 2:24 PM

"Given their OL and WR corps and lack of a running game..."

LOL! You think that's new for him? He's been there done that. Campbell proved to be an average NFL QB on a below average NFL team, and that will be a huge improvement over the worst starting NFL QB in the league.

Considering Campbell has improved every year he's been in the league, regardless of the confusion around him, I think it would be illogical not to assume he will continue to get better.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I have seen many a tough guy name names, places, and times when the heat was on.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:28 PM

So you're a cop then? Or you just watch a lot of tv.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Specifically that lower jaw thing he does when he thinks he's bad but actually makes him look like a doosh. I thought I made that clear in the previous discussion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 12:12 PM |

Couldn't agree more. Or how about the tongue wiggle? I think it's just the general "face making" that bothers me. I find it akin to Laron Landry's posing and dancing after weak tackles on chain-moving runs last year. One difference is Kobe is really really good. But, he seems like a doosh. And, to me, so did M Jordan, for what it's worth.

Posing/making faces = doosh.

Posted by: Thinker_

lol...

This could be said about 95% of the footballers and NBA ballers. I guess 95% of them are also a "doosh".

It's funny 'cause you still watch them though. Don't like it, don't watch. It's that simple.

So what if a dude stunts after making a great play? It's what they do, who cares???

smdh... a guy is a "doosh" because he makes a "face".

Whatever makes the haters sleep at night, I guess...

And come off the "he wants to be like Jordan garbage".

Every new generation of players takes something from the previous generations. Jordan grew up idolizing Dr. J and David "Skywalker" Thompson.

And most of the "Kobe like Jordan" nonsense is pimped to the masses by the media. One of the most ridiculous things I've heard when someone was claiming that Kobe copies Jordan was the fact he leaped into the air after winning the 'ship last year. Which brought back memories of "The shot on Ehlo..."

WTF!?!?!? Do you really think Kobe in probably the most happiest moment in his career was thinking "Hmm, let me see how I can imitate Jordan in my finest hour?"

The Kobe haters make me laugh so much, it gets to the point that you'll think of ANYTHING to hate on him for. Once it was discovered that the Denver chick was huge hore, you lost the "rape" thing. Now it's "he tries to copy Jordan".

Like I said, whatever the hell helps you cope with your haterism.

Get over it already.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

This will be a problem based on past performance. Unless they suddenly got smarter, how can taking on more when they couldn't handle less a good thing? Laron was already looking/playing confused...

Posted by: kahlua87 | May 28, 2010 2:15 PM |

I had a similar thought. I suppose if the new system requires disciplined play then it is possible to start with that premise and build on it to get more out of your players.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

1) Not sure why we're talking about Campbell. He doesn't play for the Skins anymore. It is sports and football related so of course it gets a pass. Having said that 2) Campbell got traded to pretty much the same team and circumstances he previously had. Why would his results be any different? Gonna get the same excuses as always...another new system, no oline, no receivers, no RB blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you scamp. D-Mac's performance this year will help us see whether JC17 was the real problem last year in the W/L column. D-Mac now has roughly the same O-line, same receivers, and similar RBs.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The Kobe haters make me laugh so much, it gets to the point that you'll think of ANYTHING to hate on him for. Once it was discovered that the Denver chick was huge hore, you lost the "rape" thing. Now it's "he tries to copy Jordan".

Like I said, whatever the hell helps you cope with your haterism.

Get over it already.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 2:37 PM | Report

Not sure why you put me in this post. As usual you're reaching for crap and like a woman putting words in people's mouth. I never brought up the rape and feel that it's way in the past. I know Kobe does some good things as a person through charities and what not but he still comes off as a doosh. Not my prob you like the feel of his nuts on your chin. All I said was that he looks retarded with that stupid ass face he makes thinking he's tough. It's stupid and he's a doosh. Of course you never answered my post from before but that's your MO. You make sh!t up and post it to other people. You got a serious complex thinking people really think like you do, when not very many people up here are nearly as stupid as you are.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM

I'm not a cop but I am very familiar with police work. How did the cops get you? Through a sting because someone snitched on you right? Probably somebody who faced charges himself. Happens everyday, especially in this age of mandatory minimums and no parole.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why we're talking about Campbell

Posted by: scampbell1975

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Considering Campbell has improved every year he's been in the league, regardless of the confusion around him, I think it would be illogical not to assume he will continue to get better.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM |

He plays very conservatively and that is not a good match for a team like what the Raiders are. In fact one poster suggested that he would make Al Davis look like a genius. Wouldn't that be a hoot, given Al's earlier days when he employed the likes of the Mad Bomber, Daryle L.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you scamp. D-Mac's performance this year will help us see whether JC17 was the real problem last year in the W/L column. D-Mac now has roughly the same O-line, same receivers, and similar RBs.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:46 PM |

I'm not sure about that oline part. BMW has a whole year back under his belt so should be in better shape, plus he supposedly is in a better position for him with another year of experience in it. Trent Williams should be a serious upgrade at his position. Plus it seems that the RT position will be stable and upgraded. Don't think we are going to be able to make too many comaprisons between Campbell and McNabb because of the oline.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM

I'm not a cop but I am very familiar with police work. How did the cops get you? Through a sting because someone snitched on you right? Probably somebody who faced charges himself. Happens everyday, especially in this age of mandatory minimums and no parole.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:52 PM |

That's how I was caught, yes. I was just wondering why you would be familiar with supposed tough guys rollin'. I was also subject to mandatory minimum guidelines although parole no longer exosts in the Federal system.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:36 PM

I'm not a cop but I am very familiar with police work. How did the cops get you? Through a sting because someone snitched on you right? Probably somebody who faced charges himself. Happens everyday, especially in this age of mandatory minimums and no parole.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 2:52 PM

Guess I left out the possibilities of judge, prosector, defense attorney, anyone that works in criminal court or law offices.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"Campbell exhibited definite deficiencies as the Skins QB. Maybe he will improve a lot with the Raiders. Given their OL and WR corps and lack of a running game it will be nothing short of a minor miracle if he does."


Thing is, the issue is fairly easy for him and the raiders.

Any kind of solid quarterback play should get him a nice payday.

And after that, the issue for the raiders is to decide just how to build around him.

They need linemen, their receivers to mature, and the need a nice running back tandem as D McFadden looks more like a 3rd down back than a 20-25 carry a game back.

You will wonder next spring, if you are the raiders, if a player like, say, Chris Cooley would be nice to add to the offense.

Campbell will make the raiders moving forward.

But as for now, they're just the same ol' sorry azzed raiders.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 28, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you scamp. D-Mac's performance this year will help us see whether JC17 was the real problem last year in the W/L column. D-Mac now has roughly the same O-line, same receivers, and similar RBs.

Posted by: Alan4

I don't think it will be that easy to tell. Last year we had 11 different OL starters and 4 different RB starters (including Portis, who never bothered to get in shape). The WRs now have 2 years of development to build off of. There are a lot of changes, but easily the biggest is ... the coach

Going from Zorn to Shanahan is night and day. Campbell to McNabb is going from coach to business class. Zorn to Shanahan is going from a Cessna to an F-16.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Somethings never change.


Whatever, scamp, you obviously are a hater, why else why take what I had to say to heart and hurl weak ass and predictable insults? And I didn't see what you posted to me earlier. I don't scan the blog finding what you posted. You're not that important, son.

If you read the entire post, I copied yours and Thinkers. It wasn't just yours, but NO go ahead and catch feelings and toss your recycled insults, it's really refreshing. You was on a good run, what happened?

I addressed what I had to say about the "faces" thing which was what you posted. Then went on the other stuff. Wasn't only what you had to say.

READING COMPREHENSION, man!! RIF, muthafugga!!!


Dude, go have a sip of drink, smoke a blunt... something...

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why we're talking about Campbell
Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 2:41 PM

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 2:52 PM

...except we want JC and the Raiders to perform well so that we get maximum value out of the conditional draft pick.

that first part was really hard to say, but I choked it out.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Thinker didn't bring it up either. I think you're delusional. Maybe had too much to drink or smoked too many blunt's. I think maybe you got some issues with rape and what not that keeps it in the front of your mind.

So I agree, reading comprehension indeed. You said you went on to address what others had to say? No one but you was talking about dude allegedly raping skanks.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

RIP Gary Coleman

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | May 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why we're talking about Campbell
Posted by: scampbell1975

Mostly, it amused me that Campbell wondered why we're talking about Campbell. Its a 'simple mind' kinda thing.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

*basketball post*

Shame dudes are still hating on Kobe for beating the ALLEGED and FRAUDULENT rape charge. MoFo's must've been thinking: 'Awww sh*t, not again!'---REDDMV

HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG!!! WHICH IS WHY HE APOLOGIZED ON TV AND HAD TO BUY THE MRS. A ROCK THE SIZE OF N.J.

CORKCZAR


Keep the hate up haters. It only fuels the dude. Man is the best doing it since MJ and is easily one of the top three Lakers of all time.

Get over it.

Posted by: RedDMV |

I live near LA and get more than my share of Kobe. He is among the most gifted athletes of all time. And he may be the most JOYLESS, selfish, ungiving athlete of all time.

I dislike the Lakers and most LA fans are frauds, but how people can invest any emotion in Bryant is beyond me. He could be working in a tool and dye works, for all the expressed pleasure the game gives him.

Give me a class act like Magic Johnson anytime, another guy involved in a sex related issue. He is one of the greats on court and off.

Bryant is just a brilliant automoton.

That's not hate, dude, that'sjust observation.

And yeah, the greats are hooked up different than you and I. Doesn't make them good people--or bad.

Posted by: TheCork | May 28, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

heart and hurl weak ass and predictable insults? And I didn't see what you posted to me earlier. I don't scan the blog finding what you posted. You're not that important, son.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:04 PM |

Funny, you couldn't read the post addressed to you but you had no problem finding one that had nothing to do with you and comment on THAT one. But I'm not that important.

Whateves man. You're right, I was on a good run, just couldn't let that one go. You got it homes, my bad. I guess it really wasn't that big a deal. You can speak on whatever you like. I was just wondering why it seemed like you were responding to a post that was never made. I'll move on now.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Red, Scamp,
I might have missed something earlier, but just to be clear, you two are arguing over the faces Kobe makes? Is that correct?

Posted by: mack1 | May 28, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 3:13 PM

ok, still processing that one...

probably shouldn't have caved and tried the fried brain sandwich last night.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

o-line, o-line, o-line. injuries, injuries, injuries.

zcezcest1 mentioned 11 o-linemen last year...jeepers creepers! here's hoping they can stay together, as a unit and all that. THAT would insure an improvement right of the bat. maybe better conditioning will do it.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Dude someone bought up the rape thing with Kobe. Although it was placed in quotations, it was still mentioned.

After his Colorado "rape" or whatever it was... his extramarital sex, let's say, Kobe justified it... by indicating that Shaq does the same thing.

C'mon, man. Pleeze.

doosh.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 12:44 PM


So even though he may have not said that "Kobe raped" so and so, he mentioned it. And there are alot of people who do believed that he raped the Denver chick, so I was talking about that in general.

If you didn't mention it, and if it didn't apply to you, then why catch feelings and take what I had to say to heart? You mentioned the "faces" thing, I brought that up in my post. The rest of it was irrelevant to what you had to say.


Maybe I should've included a "on a side note" or a "-------------------" then posted the thing about the rape accusations.

But as usual you misinterpreted a post (which is what set off the last spat) and sh*tted your drawers.


"Maybe had too much to drink or smoked too many blunt's."

I am at home today. If I were at work this would've gotten a lot deeper, ya know? But a dude is a little faded...

Have a good weekend, Scott. For reallie.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Oakland will see the real Campbell when it's 3 and 7 and he throws a check down pass to the running back and gains 3 yards.

Posted by: richardgovea | May 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Red, Scamp,
I might have missed something earlier, but just to be clear, you two are arguing over the faces Kobe makes? Is that correct?

Posted by: mack1 | May 28, 2010 3:20 PM

Actually learnedhand asked me why I thought Kobe was a doosh and I told him mainly because of the stupid faces he makes. Red then said something about haters and rape. My response to that was that I never brought that up and he then said he was talking about what someone else said.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

So even though he may have not said that "Kobe raped" so and so, he mentioned it. And there are alot of people who do believed that he raped the Denver chick, so I was talking about that in general.

If you didn't mention it, and if it didn't apply to you, then why catch feelings and take what I had to say to heart? You mentioned the "faces" thing, I brought that up in my post. The rest of it was irrelevant to what you had to say.


Maybe I should've included a "on a side note" or a "-------------------" then posted the thing about the rape accusations.

But as usual you misinterpreted a post (which is what set off the last spat) and sh*tted your drawers.


"Maybe had too much to drink or smoked too many blunt's."

I am at home today. If I were at work this would've gotten a lot deeper, ya know? But a dude is a little faded...

Have a good weekend, Scott. For reallie.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:23 PM |

It's all good. Like I said, no biggie. Have a good day off and a great long weekend. I, too, took the day off to spend with the little one. Ready to hit the beach, just waitin' on the wife.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mack1 | May 28, 2010 3:20 PM

Kobe is just the excuse for a quick man-love session this afternoon. we knew the peace and quiet wouldn't last forever, didn't we?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 3:13 PM

ok, still processing that one...

probably shouldn't have caved and tried the fried brain sandwich last night.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo

my mind can go simple with the best of them

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Cork,

It's okay to be a "kobe hater" if you are. It shouldn't be considered an insult or nothing like that. He has his fans and detectors. Just like any great player or team.

We're Redskins fans, right? So doesn't that make us all "cowboy haters"?

I know I am and proud of that fact. I take much self-satisfaction in seeing them FAIL.

Hater = constantly speaking negatively or having joy in seeing an object of dislike fail

Can't have the love without the hate.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

It's a memorial day miracle!
Have a good one RI.

Posted by: mack1 | May 28, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

....I think Oakland has a real shot at becoming a legit playoff contender out there. When you simply look at the upgrade Campbell gives them over Russell, they have the chance to turn those 5 wins into .500 or above.

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_15169114?nclick_check=1

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 1:20 PM


I will be going after Zach Miller as a TE sleeper in fantasy football next year.

That is all I have to say about the Raiders and their new QB - some guy named Jason Campbell.

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 3:32 PM

HTTR!

F the cowclowns!

jealous of those of you who took off work today, or on east coast time about to punch the clock... weekend doesn't start for another several hours PST.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

RIP Gary Coleman

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8
What's you talking about PortisPockets

Posted by: richardgovea | May 28, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I love lamp.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 28, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Gary Coleman passed away due to head trauma I believe. RIP.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The Kobe haters make me laugh so much, it gets to the point that you'll think of ANYTHING to hate on him for. Once it was discovered that the Denver chick was huge hore, you lost the "rape" thing. Now it's "he tries to copy Jordan".

Like I said, whatever the hell helps you cope with your haterism.

Get over it already.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse
__________

I think everyone here knows by now that I'm a die-hard Laker fan, dating back to very early childhood. The Kobe hater thing amazes me too, and for the most part, I've found that the correct answer is to just ignore it. Everyone one of the haters would love to have had him on their teams all these years, and would have been cheering their hearts out if it were so. Generally speaking, the Kobe haters = jealous basketball fans.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why we're talking about Campbell
Posted by: scampbell1975

Any update on Haynesworth, its been almost 18 hours since we had one.

Posted by: Predator48 | May 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

is it ok to be a Kobe agnostic?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

This is how I envision a Red and Scamp meeting.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

lmao..


lh, you a fool.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This is how I envision a Red and Scamp meeting.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse


Post of the Year so far.

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"wow...that campbell guy sounds pretty good - and he's not too old either. any chance we could trade for him?"

That Campbell guy looked great in preseason last year and how did that turn out?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 28, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

lh, it'll be more like this one.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

o-line, o-line, o-line. injuries, injuries, injuries.

zcezcest1 mentioned 11 o-linemen last year...jeepers creepers! here's hoping they can stay together, as a unit and all that. THAT would insure an improvement right of the bat. maybe better conditioning will do it.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch

Our OL starters (might be off a bit, but its close)

LT: Samuels, Heyer, Jones
LG: Dockery
C: Rabach
RG: Thomas, BMW, Reinhart, W Montgomery, Edwin Williams
RT: Heyer, BMW

5 OL spots, 10 different starters, with Heyer and BMW starting at 2 spots each ... am I missing anyone? Though they played, don't think William Robinson or Batiste started.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Any update on Haynesworth, its been almost 18 hours since we had one.

Posted by: Predator48 | May 28, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse


It's been much longer than 18 hours since we've had a Haynesworth update...

...now, if you meant a Haynesworth "non-update", then 18 hours or so sounds about right.

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

This is how I envision a Red and Scamp meeting.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:03 PM |

That is some funny ass sh!t right there!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

lh and red, you're killing me here.

brilliant!

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1

That was good stuff!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

lh, it'll be more like this one.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 4:11 PM |

Absolutely phukin' hysterical!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | May 28, 2010 3:15 PM

You don't know Kobe personally so can't possibly have a clue whether he is "joyless," "selfish," or "ungiving." This is all supposition based upon what you see through the eyes of reporters and editors and directors. As someone who has worked in the media, you should know better than a lot of people that we don't get the full measure of a person through a lense. You appear to judge him on what you perceive as a lack of "expressed pleasure." He's an athlete. All he owes you as fan or observer is his performance on the court. You're upset because he doesn't shine for you or put on some fake facade like the guys you prefer.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

40 more minutes until 3 consecutive nights of horseshoes, Heineken, ping-pong, beer-pong, Jager, pooping my pants/ wetting the bed.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1

That was good stuff!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Goodness gracious --> Good God
Jeepers Creepers --> Jesus Christ
Sacré bleu --> Sang de Dieu (God's blood)

Posted by: 4thFloor

beep-beep --> butt-buddy

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 28, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: TheCork | May 28, 2010 3:15 PM

You don't know Kobe personally so can't possibly have a clue whether he is "joyless," "selfish," or "ungiving." This is all supposition based upon what you see through the eyes of reporters and editors and directors. As someone who has worked in the media, you should know better than a lot of people that we don't get the full measure of a person through a lense. You appear to judge him on what you perceive as a lack of "expressed pleasure." He's an athlete. All he owes you as fan or observer is his performance on the court. You're upset because he doesn't shine for you or put on some fake facade like the guys you prefer.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse


I'll say this - I'd take a joyless selfish uninteresting star who delivers championships any day over a "Gilbert Arenas".

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you scamp. D-Mac's performance this year will help us see whether JC17 was the real problem last year in the W/L column. D-Mac now has roughly the same O-line, same receivers, and similar RBs.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

_____________________________________

I think D Mac's performance this year will have no reflection on JC17 because he had a completely incompetent Offensive Coordinator (Jim Zorn) calling plays.... Shanny will be the difference, not the OL. He would of put JC17 in much better situations to complement his skills.

Posted by: tony325 | May 28, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Gary Coleman dead at 42

RIP. The dude could have used a few HGH growth hormone injections from Dr. G‎.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

You don't know Kobe personally so can't possibly have a clue whether he is "joyless," "selfish," or "ungiving." This is all supposition based upon what you see through the eyes of reporters and editors and directors. As someone who has worked in the media, you should know better than a lot of people that we don't get the full measure of a person through a lense. You appear to judge him on what you perceive as a lack of "expressed pleasure." He's an athlete. All he owes you as fan or observer is his performance on the court. You're upset because he doesn't shine for you or put on some fake facade like the guys you prefer.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

fair enough... although isn't cork's position that he thinks Kobe is joyless, selfish, ungiving, etc. from his perspective as a sports fan?

obviously, we don't *know* Kobe personally... but who gives a sh!t about him personally? I don't really care about him any more than the millions of other anonymous people on this planet with whom I'll never interact. which is to say he is a valuable person, but not one that I have the time or energy to invest in personally.

cork doesn't like him, other people do, and that's all fine with me. it's part of the bargain with media figures, athletes included.

regarding the "fake facade" comment... trust me, Kobe has plenty of PR and marketing machinery that work on that type of thing constantly.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

p1, did you read this?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/28/AR2010052802266.html


Likely to never happen I know, but I wonder if they were able to make it happen, would I put my hate for Lebron and my discontent for Gilbert Arenas aside.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Our OL starters (might be off a bit, but its close)...

Posted by: zcezcest1

Hicks?

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1

Ooops...nevermind.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 28, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

HEAR YE, HEAR YE!

This just in!

Drop all the Kobe hating/loving and O Line speculation...

How's THIS for breaking news:

"Safeties will be asked to do a lot more"

When does football season start again? Really? That's so freaking far away. I'll probably love Kobe by then. With his stupid name and all that jaw jutting and tongue wiggling and finger pointing. And the fact that his dad was an NBA player doesn't help me like him. Only time can make me like him. The sands of time.

And a few more articles about how the safety's role is unique in Haslett's defense.

Oh, Brother.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Gary Coleman dead at 42

RIP. The dude could have used a few HGH growth hormone injections from Dr. G‎.

Posted by: AlligatorAl

I always felt like he lived a very sad life. It seemed like he never figured out how to be an adult. Worse, I'm not sure the world he lived in ever wanted to see him as an adult, just as the cute kid he once was.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you scamp. D-Mac's performance this year will help us see whether JC17 was the real problem last year in the W/L column. D-Mac now has roughly the same O-line, same receivers, and similar RBs.

Posted by: Alan4 | May 28, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

_____________________________________

I think D Mac's performance this year will have no reflection on JC17 because he had a completely incompetent Offensive Coordinator (Jim Zorn) calling plays.... Shanny will be the difference, not the OL. He would of put JC17 in much better situations to complement his skills.

Posted by: tony325 | May 28, 2010 4:32 PM

Yep. 100%. AND he'll have some semblance of a run game to keep the defenders slightly honest. Nothing like going into a division rivalry game on Monday Night Football with Cooley out, no pass protection, and Quinton Ganther as your featured back. Especially when the Defense spots DeSean Jackson 2 TDs in the first quarter. Ears pinned back? Check. Threat of run eliminated? Check. Cover both midget receivers? Check. God, that was sad to witness. I would have liked to see them attempt a handoff, just for kicks, to see if they'd have had time for it to develop.

Yeah, Campbell really screwed THAT up.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

p1, did you read this?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/28/AR2010052802266.html


Likely to never happen I know, but I wonder if they were able to make it happen, would I put my hate for Lebron and my discontent for Gilbert Arenas aside.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse


I had not read that particular take, though I did hear a particularly intriguing one about LeBron coming to D.C.

That article makes mention of the potential for a LeBron-Obama relationship in D.C.

More than a simple friendship consider this: Obama goes the whole was an actually gives LeBron James some kind of council advisory role to the White House - something that has to do with outreach to youth-in-danger communities or inner-city communities or youth health (Michelle's campaign against obesity for instance).

This would do 2 things. For Obama, he'd really be cutting edge/breaking the mold in terms of installing an active athletic icon that appeals to the younger generation (not shabby for votes either).

For LeBron, this could satisfy his urge to become "bigger than the game". Selling athletic apparell, taking b-ball international - been there, done that. LeBron would not be breaking any mold or blazing any new trails if he went to NY to become a commercial icon or to Chicago to follow Jordan's legacy.

But to be the first active b-ball player who holds a role on a White House advisory council could be just the kind of ground-breaking move that appeals to LeBron.

And yes - if anyone comes to DC and throws on the correct uniform, I can put aside past hatreds and embrace them.

Shoot, I'm already calling Donovan McNabb my quarterback...

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep --> butt-buddy

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 28, 2010 4:30 PM |

bleep-bleep --> #$^@-!&~*%

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 4:50 PM

kind of fried at the end of the week, but come to think of it... can't even remember who we have for place kicking or punting.

ok, a quick inspection says Josh Bidwell at P, with Gano Graham and Justin Medlock battling it out at K. might merit a RI expose?

barring something relatively seismic like the Moss scandal, roster cuts or personal spats on RI are probably the best opportunity for news at this point.

need to sign off, enjoy your weekend everyone.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The intriguing thing about the Lebron-to-DC pipedream is that he is the type of uber-talent that could legitimately organize and discipline this dysfunctional locker room merely by his presence alone.

I've clearly stated my wish that the Wizards clean house of talented yet unprofessional athletes like Arenas, Blatche, and Nick Young -- instead focusing around rebuilding anew with John Wall and the other draft picks we own.

If Lebron were to come to DC, I'd fully rescind that wish. He could make it work getting those players on board in a professional manner.

I don't consider Lebron a winner, and I think he was hamstrung by Mike Brown, but the guy has undeniable physical talent and is only 25. Wall, Arenas, Blatche, and Lebron could be the makings of a deadly foursome.

And speaking of uber-physical talents, John Wall just measured out as the best athlete in the current draft class. His numbers were nearly identical to that of Dwayne Wade...only that Wall is a PG with a PGs mentality rather than a SG. He's going to be a freak in this league.

Posted by: psps23 | May 28, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

The Seahwaks just release LeDale White
should we give him a look?

Posted by: richardgovea | May 28, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about wins, since everything will be new and the schedule looks pretty tough, but between the Shanahans' more aggressive offense (willing to throw the ball done th field on more than the odd occasion) and Haslett's more aggressive defense (no two deep safeties play after play) the 'Skins certainly should be more interesting to watch this year.

Posted by: hapster | May 28, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Bingo Caller in position? Check.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The Seahwaks just release LeDale White
should we give him a look?

Posted by: richardgovea | May 28, 2010 5:09 PM |

We should. The Skins are thin at the RB position and the Seawaks had no idea how good the dude can be, especially their HC.

Posted by: AlligatorAl | May 28, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

psps / Red,

The pipedream of LeBron-to-DC does hold one big drawback for me:

We won't be able to get Kevin Durant.

To be perfectly honest, between the 2, I'd rather have Durant; although if LeBron says "I'd like to come to DC", how do you say - nope, sorry, we're gonna wait a year and hopefully land Durant.

My ideal scenario is that we pass on the flashy UFAs this year, but make a move for someone like David Lee to give us a legit big-rotation. THen next year make a run at Durant.

Oh, well...a guy can always dream

Posted by: p1funk | May 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

We should. The Skins are thin at the RB position and the Seawaks had no idea how good the dude can be, especially their HC.

Posted by: AlligatorAl
Well at least he is younger than all the other backs in camp

Posted by: richardgovea | May 28, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I always felt like he lived a very sad life. It seemed like he never figured out how to be an adult. Worse, I'm not sure the world he lived in ever wanted to see him as an adult, just as the cute kid he once was.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse
________

He always seemed like he was kind of a tortured soul. RIP Gary.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | May 28, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

John Wall? Evan Turner? Gilbert Arenas? Lebron James?


I just want them to get winners and want the Wizards to win, dammit!!!

I don't care if they were to get Snuffaluffagus to run the point and had the Hamburglar at the the 3. If they're winner and brings titles to D.C., then so be it!

I want D.C. teams to be truly relevant again.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Portis still seeing double (yeah, right.) milking injury? Check.

The Raiders seem to think they had a worse O Line than the Skins last year, to which I would respond, "To which O Line are you referring?"

The one with Rhinehart? Or Montgomery? Or Levi Jones? Or Mike Williams? Or Stephon "I get jacked up" Heyer? Or what combination of those?

Or the First one, with Samuels and Thomas? What'd that last? 2 weeks?

I don't know. I havent seen a patch work line like that since the 4-12 Pettitbon days. At least HE was honest. He'd say, "Well, there's only so much we can do with the injuries we have. We're probably going to struggle against the Giant's front four."

Unlike Zorn, who wasn't allowed in the strategy meetings, who would say, "I feel good about the guys we have going into this game. I sure have confidence in Sherm and Sherm to come up with some plays that will enable us to throw the ball quickly and, who knows, we might even run it a couple times with whatshisface back there. At least he practiced all week."

Man, talk about a year to forget.

Posted by: Thinker_ | May 28, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"The Seahwaks just release LeDale White
should we give him a look?Posted by: richardgovea"

There'll be a story behind that move -- Seattle proudly acquiring him in a draft-day trade to play for his old college coach, then cutting him during OTAs...

So the answer would A Big No.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 28, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

p1,

Definitely would like to see Durant in D.C. before Lebron.

But if Lebron says "I want to play in D.C.", then you're right, you gotta go get him.

Wall-Arenas-Lebron would be CRAZY! Lebron would make Arenas become the player he should be.

But as of today? I don't like Lebron. And speaking from a logical reality perspective I don't see that ever changing.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 28, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Wall, Arenas, Blatche, and Lebron

holy smokes!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 28, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 4:38 PM

Cork started his Kobe rant by saying he lives near LA as if this gave him greater insight into Kobe's persona and lent an air of truth to his *thinking.* That's what I take issue with. I couldn't care less that he doesn't like Kobe.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 5:36 PM

that's cool, I see where you're coming from... but interpreted the original post more along the lines of "have to watch him on TV, read about him in the paper, talk about him with co-workers, and just can't get a groove for this dude" type of thing.

besides, the only reason we talk about him is that the man is a certified winner, like it or not.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

besides, the only reason we talk about him is that the man is a certified winner, like it or not.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:48 PM |

We talk about J. Campbell too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

So Landry couldn't take a good angle if there was a line drawn on the field, he couldn't cover a wide receiver in a wheel chair, and he couldn't tackle my dead grandmother. By all means let's ask him to do more.

Posted by: anw821 | May 28, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:50 PM

MOL! true, so true...

but if all we talked about were winners, there would be no reason for this blog.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

After perusing RI wiki, I get the hamster reference but does anyone know who first started using it?

Posted by: will_ga | May 28, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:50 PM

MOL! true, so true...

but if all we talked about were winners, there would be no reason for this blog.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:54 PM |

This blog wouldn't exist.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

After perusing RI wiki, I get the hamster reference but does anyone know who first started using it?

Posted by: will_ga | May 28, 2010 5:55 PM | Report

Before my time...sounds like a cL invention though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

It was either Cindy Boren or Nate.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 28, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

It was either Cindy Boren or Nate.

Posted by: learnedhand1

get on your wheel and find out.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

need to sign off, enjoy your weekend everyone.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:04 PM

Moo- Find it funny how you sign off on the reg but always manage to mosey on back to the blog.

I'm off to grill one of your relatives.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

You guys need to come up off the Landry hate. He's a player and he will be so much better this year now that he won't be asked to be the lone ranger back there. Landry can cover the ground, and if he gets a little more coaching, he'll specifically be better in coverage. Doughty and Horton have a genetic liability of being just a tad slow - not necessarily in the forty, but in overall reaction time and acceleration. This could be Kareem Moore's year... or the team could go with another option such as moving Carlos Rogers to free safety. I'm just going to keep lobbying for this.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 28, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

need to sign off, enjoy your weekend everyone.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:04 PM

Moo- Find it funny how you sign off on the reg but always manage to mosey on back to the blog.

I'm off to grill one of your relatives.

Posted by: Diesel44

Moo lacks focus.

Words I'd never imagine I'd have ever written

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Unless I'm misremembering, F chRIs laRrY created the Wiki page

Posted by: 4-12 | May 28, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=5207239

Len Pasqaurelli has provided some marvelous research.

Seems like 99% of NFL teams play the revolving O-line game the same way Spurrier used to play the revolving QB game.

AT every position, substitutions are made depending on health/fatigue/matchups/packages etc.

except the most important position on the field: the QB of course silly!

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 6:28 PM

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 6:37 PM

it's partly a courtesy to others not to expect an immediate response.

but mostly a warning to myself, reminding me to ramp down, chill out, and focus on...

...the lush green back yard
...the chelada trough
...the work I'm putting off until later
..anything other than RI

sort of like the warning count we give to the calves in the barn. you know the routine: "going to count to three before you get a timeout"

enjoy your grilling!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KG1KAgva0R0/SNzXnKmfnwI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Jb1-S7BT1M0/Marmaris+043.jpg

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Moo- I guess there is food somewhere in that photo, all I could see was the top half of the photo.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KG1KAgva0R0/SNzXnKmfnwI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Jb1-S7BT1M0/Marmaris+043.jpg

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo

nice and juicy, bone in, lots to work with there ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 28, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

As long as Ernie is still GM, the Wizards will be stupid enough to select John Wall.

Turner or Cousins should be the pick.

The Wiz should use the Magic strategy and find a talented center and surround him with 3 point shooters.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Do any of you fans believe the skins will do better than a 6-10 this year (at best)
Cowboys - Colts - SuperBowl. 24-13 That would give us 6 to the Skins forever 3.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

TWITTER
Adam_Schefter @ 7:51: Skins trade DT Albert Haynesworth to Panthers for RB Jon Stewart and conditional 2011 pick.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker may soon be gone! Too many praises and admiration from coaches for Larry Johnson. Bryan Westbrook may soon join the Skins, hyphenate the "may". Also, what's the buzz about Anthony Montgomery and Brandon Banks?

Posted by: abxinc | May 28, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Addition to the previous post, Albert Haynesworth is not going anywhere, dead or alive he's coming with us!

Posted by: abxinc | May 28, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Do any of you fans believe the skins will do better than a 6-10 this year (at best)
Cowboys - Colts - SuperBowl. 24-13 That would give us 6 to the Skins forever 3.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm...no. The Cowboys go nowhere near a Super Bowl as long as Wade Phillips is their coach

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | May 28, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Also, what's the buzz about Anthony Montgomery and Brandon Banks?
Posted by: abxinc
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
uh Montgomery was cut a few weeks ago

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | May 28, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm...no. The Cowboys go nowhere near a Super Bowl as long as Wade Phillips is their coach

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | May 28, 2010 9:40 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually the Cowboys have to be a favorite in the NFC to make the Superbowl.

Think about it. They have no weaknesses.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Think about it. They have no weaknesses.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 9:47 PM

You're so right. 16-0 and 3 easy wins and they pick up the trophy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

This blog wouldn't exist.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 5:56 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Anything to get rid of you

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

You're so right. 16-0 and 3 easy wins and they pick up the trophy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 9:57 PM

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

You're so wrong. 12-4 and 2 wins and they pick up the trophy.

You're gonna have to change your handle soon. You used to be so much more creative and funny when you first showed up. Now your jokes are stale.

I'm a loser. No problem admitting it. But whats your excuse for blogging on a perfectly good Friday?

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44,
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Your daughter is getting banged by a brother whose schlong is bigger than yours heh heh.
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

skinshaveaGM-

You're incorrect my friend. 16-0 in the regular season. 1st rd bye, beat wildcard winner(1), win NFC Championship(2), win Super Bowl(3). 19-0!!!!!!!!!

You're 100% right about everything else tho..

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see what our offensive line looks like with a capable QB behind center.

Tony Romo makes his offensive line look better. He evades numerous sacks and he always seems to find the open receiver. ! 1 !!!

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:53 PM

others here have taught me that trolling isn't quite the same as fishing per se.

one involves setting some smelly bait or a shiny lure on a hook and chucking it behind the boat to catch whatever happens to bite while you motor/sail/paddle along.

the other requires careful study of the behavior exhibited by the intended quarry, with consideration to the precise customized fly that will draw them closer... given the season, time of day, etc.

the match has just started, however.

one must also pay attention to the cast, being careful to drag across riffles along the edge of deeper pools.

watching patiently, wait until one bites! set the hook quickly, pull it in gently, then admire your trophy.

depending on local regulations and personal ethics, catch-and-release can be a rewarding diversion for a holiday weekend.

on the other hand, you seem more like the type to chuck M-80s in the water and see what floats to the surface in the aftermath.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

skinshaveaGM-

I see you snuck a not so creative "daughter" post in between my response to your previous post.

I’d love the opportunity to buy you a few beers and then discuss why you would think that joke is so funny and fresh.

After we drank a few pints I would then smash your face and make you into a nicer and more thoughtful person.


Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.

Everybody's out on the run tonight
but there's no place left to hide.


Posted by: Diesel44 | May 28, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

"The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive."

The ballad of a cow. Never acknowledge those you hate. Listen to frak sing Marleys stir it up. Like the call of the siren, ye just can't resist.

Care to talk about football?!?!?

Watch out for dem 'Boys. Americas Team!

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

The original phrasing was something like "coked-up hamsters", and that was shortened to "hamsters". I can't take credit for this one.

No direct relation to, but perhaps contemporary with, our brief fascination with "hammies" and also our disgust at "hemmies".

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Who let the Dallas Brokebacks fan on the blog?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 28, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

You're having blog gate swinging issues. Thing'll let damn near anyone in here.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 28, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Numbers Validate Haynesworth Had a Good Year
"In the two seasons prior to signing with Washington, Haynesworth posted point of attack (POA) win totals of 32.3 percent (2007) and 23.8 percent (2008)," writes KC Joyner. "Those totals are the baseline against which Haynesworth's 2009 run-stuffing performance should be gauged.

"[In 2009 he] had 81 POA attempts and 27 POA wins. That equates to a 33.3 percent POA win rate, or a total that was actually higher than both his 2007 and 2008 figures."

- People will say, "yea, but he sat out so many plays." The thing is, Haynesworth had a slightly higher % of snaps played then with TEN....in the 72% area. Who cares if he's on a knee when he's out? He's taking on double and triple teams.

Taken from Hogs Heaven article by Kevin Ewoldt.

But I guess that he was supposed to play all the downs.

AH gonna do just great with this defense and therefore make everyone better.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | May 29, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Also, a couple of dudes were talking about Escape from New York pizza up here a while back... I had a couple of their slices and a beer today as a segue form the office to the holiday weekend, and it was terrific.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 29, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

HPYTRKR1,
totally with ya. AH is a monster. a freak o' nature. we put up with whatever we have to in the offseason to get him on the field, on our team, for 16 (hopefully more) days a year.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 29, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

I personally don't have a problem with AH missing the vol workouts. Enough of the team left over from last year said it all that it was a joke in the training area. If he is more comfortable with his own trainer and that is who he used for his 2 AP seasons, then I am fine with that. If he just cruising around in his boat and comes in bad shape, I would be disappointed but still take him because at 75% he's still better than 95% of the league.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | May 29, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

HPYTRKR1,
after all the hamster talk there is NO WAY he comes in in anything less than top shape. it's all about him proving shanny wrong. to do that, he's got to perform....it's a great "situation". i think he'll be better than last year - and he was pretty darn good last year.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 29, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

besides, the only reason we talk about him is that the man is a certified winner, like it or not.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 28, 2010 5:48 PM |

We talk about J. Campbell too.

Posted by: scampbell1975

And of course, we talk about each other. We are lonely ships in the night, the con unmanned, dragging our anchors, our captains passed out with a New Orleans hoor.

Posted by: TheCork | May 29, 2010 6:02 AM | Report abuse

You don't know Kobe personally so can't possibly have a clue whether he is "joyless," "selfish," or "ungiving." This is all supposition based upon what you see through the eyes of reporters and editors and directors. As someone who has worked in the media, you should know better than a lot of people that we don't get the full measure of a person through a lense. You appear to judge him on what you perceive as a lack of "expressed pleasure." He's an athlete. All he owes you as fan or observer is his performance on the court. You're upset because he doesn't shine for you or put on some fake facade like the guys you prefer.
Posted by: learnedhand1 |

I wasn’t clear that I was speaking of his public persona, and how he acts as a “sports superstar.”

But I have more than a clue.

He does post-game interviews constantly and in them he is joyless and selfish and ungiving. I see this with my own critical eyes, not filtered, other than a sports editor picking his “bite.”

For all I know Kobe in his opwn life, may be giving 4-karat rings to the poor, in addition to the wife he wronged. He may be joyful at home and among friends. What he gives fans is sheer drudgery. Talent only. Himself, no.

I also maintain some contacts and have first hand knowledge his personality took a big hit at Colorado.

I’ve covered stars for years and I know the talent isn’t related to the personality. They are different than me and thee, to be sure. And just because you are a “genius” at your craft, doesn’t make you a decent human being, or a bad one;.

\What I meant about Kobe, is he is one of the best ever to play a children’s game, and his persona is a put upon, miserable, closed off drudge who gets no pleasure from his talent.

Posted by: TheCork | May 29, 2010 6:13 AM | Report abuse

"Those totals are the baseline against which Haynesworth's 2009 run-stuffing performance should be gauged. [In 2009 he] had 81 POA attempts and 27 POA wins. That equates to a 33.3 percent POA win rate, or a total that was actually higher than both his 2007 and 2008 figures."

Couple observations:
1) Albert Haynesworth did not have a bad season in 2009. He had roughly the sort of season the team could expect, based on his previous performance.
2) Albert isn't paid to stuff the run. The fact that he was reasonably successful at it represents, I dunno, a bonus? An irrelevancy?
3) The numbers do show that if he wanted to, he could be a pretty darn good NT. Another irrelevancy, because he doesn't want to.
4) Something that doesn't come from the numbers: he wasn't a big force on the Blache defense last season, because he didn't like the scheme and because his motivation to play hard dropped by half when he signed that humongous contract.
5) Something else that doesn't come from the numbers: he's not going to be a big force this season, either.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 29, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

"his persona is a put upon, miserable, closed off drudge who gets no pleasure..."

Oh yeah? Then why isn't he posting here?

Wait a minute, what's his screen name?

Posted by: Samson151 | May 29, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

The Wiz should use the Magic strategy and find a talented center and surround him with 3 point shooters.

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

How many NBA titles has that won them? The Wizards should, and will, pick the best available player. And the consensus seems to be that that is Wall.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Also, a couple of dudes were talking about Escape from New York pizza up here a while back... I had a couple of their slices and a beer today as a segue form the office to the holiday weekend, and it was terrific.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 29, 2010 12:41 AM

Escape from New York is my favorite Stumptown pizza joint, you lucky dog.

when not staying with friends in NE, we like the Inn at Northrup Station as our home base in the Nob Hill / 23rd Street neighborhood. funky decor, great staff, and the little ones love it.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 29, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

As long as Ernie is still GM, the Wizards will be stupid enough to select John Wall.

Turner or Cousins should be the pick.

The Wiz should use the Magic strategy and find a talented center and surround him with 3 point shooters.

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Posted by: skinshaveaGM | May 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse


I don't know if this is a lame attempt at picking a blog fight or something, but you are a moron.

The Magic? That same team that just got bounced?

They went further last season b/c their offense was being run - not around a center and 3-point shooters - but around a 6'10'' point forward who could pass the ball and create mismatches.

A dominant center is nice, but if he can't hit free throws, he becomes a bit of liability in a tight-game situation. 3-point shooters go cold.

A versatile perimeter player that can get mismatches, get the ball to other guys, push/finish in transition - that's what I want.

Of course you need a big to clean stuff up around the rim and such, but I'd rather sign David Lee to do that than take Cousins with a #1 pick.

Posted by: p1funk | May 29, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Couple observations:
1) Albert Haynesworth did not have a bad season in 2009. He had roughly the sort of season the team could expect, based on his previous performance.
2) Albert isn't paid to stuff the run. The fact that he was reasonably successful at it represents, I dunno, a bonus? An irrelevancy?
3) The numbers do show that if he wanted to, he could be a pretty darn good NT. Another irrelevancy, because he doesn't want to.
4) Something that doesn't come from the numbers: he wasn't a big force on the Blache defense last season, because he didn't like the scheme and because his motivation to play hard dropped by half when he signed that humongous contract.
5) Something else that doesn't come from the numbers: he's not going to be a big force this season, either.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 29, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse


I was with you Samson, up until you started talking about how AH was not a "big force" on defense.

Not sure how you can highlight all of his great on-field production and then turnaround and say that he was not a "big force".

He won his matchups, stuffed the run, drew double-triple teams, and was successful pressuring the QB - what does a DT need to do in your book to become a "big force"?

Posted by: p1funk | May 29, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

While I suppose the hope is Landry is coached / instructed better and is kept nearer the line, I'm still nervous about this and the lack of a stand-out FS to lead the secondary.

Also, for all the talk of the 3-4 and who will play NT, who is going to play ILB? I love our mix of guys to play OLB; Orakpo, Wilson, Carter and Alexander (excited to see him more involved), the lack of beef inside is worrying me.

Posted by: stevebeagrie | May 29, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

2) Albert isn't paid to stuff the run. The fact that he was reasonably successful at it represents, I dunno, a bonus? An irrelevancy?

3) The numbers do show that if he wanted to, he could be a pretty darn good NT. Another irrelevancy, because he doesn't want to.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 29, 2010 8:28 AM

the player in question is paid to do his job, whether that involves occupying the O-line, stuffing the run, rushing the QB, or filling the water coolers.

he's decided to work according to union rules... but all the talk about "irrelevancy because he doesn't want to" might become irrelevant once contractual obligations kick in.

agreed that motivation (and perhaps misplaced pride) is a huge question, which is a big part of why I don't like this dude on our team right now, despite the undeniable skill.

but let's see what happens when the mandatory stuff begins.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 29, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse


@skinshaveaGM

You know allot about schlongs. You must know how to please them.

Posted by: hessone | May 29, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Did I miss something? this article was about the SKINS...not round ball.
Why don`t some of u get in a chat room and talk away about Kobe..et al.

Regarding the SKINS..with those safeties and corners...the front 7 better get a lot of pressure on the QB...so what do u think of that LeBron.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou88 | May 29, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

What it all boils down to is this; I want to see at least one player between Miles Austin and Deshawn Jackson when there's still 70 yards of field left

Posted by: kenboy1 | May 30, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

What it all boils down to is this; I want to see at least one player between Miles Austin and Deshawn Jackson when there's still 70 yards of field left

Posted by: kenboy1 | May 30, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

"What it all boils down to is this; I want to see at least one player between Miles Austin and Deshawn Jackson when there's still 70 yards of field left"

Posted by: kenboy1 | May 30, 2010 1:37 AM

Not me... I'd rather see them getting up off the field after being drilled into the dirt... but that's just me.

Posted by: oda155 | June 1, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

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