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7:50 a.m. (EST) Gameday

Loseable Type just "Papelbon's dogged" my previous post. Gack. Anywho (to quote Jasno, who I hope is sound asleep), we need a new thread because the other page is taking too long to load--not a good thing for a bunch of hungover, gameface-ready-for-two-weeks-now, eager/anxious fans. Don't miss this story in our coverage. You're going to recognize some people.
Keep an eye on the DC Bog; Dan Steinberg will be in the Qwest Field parking lot with Redskins fans. Jasno will be posting pregame and of course we'll all be here during the game. Our lineup in Seattle consists of: The Jasons (La Canfora and Reid), Tom Boswell, Mike Wise, Mike Wilbon, Les Carpenter and, of course, Steinberg.

By Cindy Boren  |  January 5, 2008; 7:49 AM ET
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Hi Cindy,

We responded to you on the previous thread.


Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 5, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Is it my imagination or are the Jasons in that photo trying to send a message of some sort?

Posted by: TheCindy | January 5, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Did you guys know:


Hail Redskins! Hail Jasno! Hail Cindy! Hail!

Posted by: trink | January 5, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Well, Cindy, you certainly know both of them better than we do. Perhaps the message was only intended for you, or for the photographer.

To the untrained eye, Jason Reid seems to be giving an innocent "thumbs up", while JLaC is demonstrating a lame (or slightly inebriated) impression of the "fist of rock". However, the subtle message appears to be, "Damn, these drinks are a lot stronger north of the 45th parallel!

Posted by: TheCrickets007 | January 5, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, thanks for the link to the story. I'm jlc-ing and boggin' so much I rarely check out the site proper. Don't tell.

And for anyone who isn't reading Steinberg's bog, go forth now. Some of the stuff he captures, particularly with Smoot, for whatever reason, is absolutely cahlassic.

Posted by: WorstSeat | January 5, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! I am FIRED UP! Thanks for the update on the coverage. The Post, as always, comes correct when it comes to our beloved 'Skins. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: mjwies11 | January 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, I dont think your allowed to beep beep your own post... but anyway good work.

Good job NW peeps for representing up there!

Notice how we can have civilized convo's with fans from philly when they are considered crude, but the uppity NW comes here with utter classlessness and grime of the earth comments?

Hey wsumichael, did you go to suite 410 last night and confront all those skins fans like the hardass you were to come here anonymously and confront us? Doubt it you little b@tch.

Sorry, just fired up for gameday!

F seattle
F Hassledick
F Alexis
F Toppoaapotutpo
F Truffle
F Peon Branch
F Holmgren, who is the only one I respect
F Qwest


Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse!!!+(Fan+Pictures)?t=anon

Nice! Diddy - Are you the bald one or the one in the middle? (I'm assuming the one in the middle)..

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

4th, crickets answers that in his post above...

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

You got me on that one. Thanks Crickets....

This is the reason why you don't comment on other peoples' tragedies when you don't have an up close perspective. You come off sounding like a dumb SJK... ( )

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Yo, P Diddy, we are more alike than you think beyond the love of the Redskins.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

That article in the PI is assinine. The journalist relates two completely unrelated issues: the team rallying around Sean Taylor and the team name. Had he wanted to discuss the latter, he could have interviewed Native Americans, of whom there are plentiful numbers in the area. Had he wanted to discuss the former, he could have interviewed and quoted Taylor's teammates.

As it is, he is only spouting an ill-informed opinion with no journalistic credence whatsoever. Essentially, he mailed it in and his article isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

One on One: Andre Carter

John Keim Jan 4, 2008

Here is a one on one John Keim conducted with Andre Carter.

Q: You have a unique ability to get a sack and force a fumble, when do you know just to tackle them or when to strip?

A: That comes in with practice, through repetitions on the practice field and OTAs and minicamps and everything. Even though I can't touch the quarterback, I always simulate coming in and bringing my hand in high and coming low.

Q: Is it something where if you see the ball you go for it and if you don't, then you don't?

A: Even if I don't see it, I'm sacking with one arm and coming across with the other, in case I don't knock the ball out I can still bring it down and get the sack.

Q: Was that something your dad, as a former defensive lineman, taught you? Did you have to learn this?

A: I started watching film. There was a DVR that showed the best top 10 pass rushers of all time so it had guys like Reggie White, Strahan and even some throwback guys that I can't remember their names. Deacon Jones. One thing I admired watching them was in the last few minutes of the half they were always trying to strip the ball. Lawrence Taylor came high. I added that to my repertoire and since then it's been great.

Q: What's it feel like to have a sack/fumble?

A: It feels great. There's no more incredible feeling than to make a big play and allow the offense to score.

Q: At what point do you know you've got them? Can you tell?

A: You know what, it's just too fast. Sometimes with sacks it comes from the second move. Sometimes it just comes and you're like, "Oh my gosh I'm here," when you turn the corner. But when you have it, it's the best feeling in the world.

Story URL:

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm the big guy in the middle of that photo :)

The message from the Jasons is a short form of SOS.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Good morning everyone - it's game day!

Loved the article about displaced fans (Yea P Diddy!). And the picture on the Wiki from the Suite 410 was awesome!

Mercifully, my son's basketball coach cancelled practice scheduled today from 4-6 (I'm not sure anyone would've shown up anyway). But have to race home from daughter's indoor soccer which ends at 4. Should be home just in time to crack open my Amstel Light, toast my Portis fathead, and watch kickoff.

Go 'Skins!

Posted by: mmok | January 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

To be clear: the picture is from dinner. I have a strict no photos policy when I'm drinking in a bar. Mostly because grown men shouldn't be photographed licking their shoes. :)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

>>> "toast my Portis fathead"

I love 'Skins fans! :-)

Posted by: PDiddy | January 5, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Big issue today: WEATHER

According to recent NWS Forecast, gametime conditions at kick-off calls for steady rain with sustained winds around 20-25 mph and gust up to 45 mph. Winds may reduce in second half to 10-15 mph with still gusts.

I think the edge weatherwise goes to the Skins because of running game (with our O-line manhandling the smaller Seahawks D-line). Although a FieldTurf surface, it will be tougher to pass in that rain and wind (as we saw in the Giants game), which will help to neutralize Seattles main offensive threat. Key will be for the Skins (aka Portis, Betts and Moss) to secure the football.

Posted by: garylloyd | January 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

We had a pretty good representation of 'Skins fans at the bar last night: Nate, freakzilla, puttin4bird, Stumptown Chris, Stumped, Barno, and several others. Jasno, Jason Reid, and Mike Wise were entertaining.

And I got outed to all my friends as a huge blog nerd :-) (I don't think I'll be able to live that one down)

Ah well...

I've got a gazillion errands to run this morning, and then we're headed down to the stadium at 11:30 to hopefully meet up with a bunch of fans at noon to go in together.

I'll post a quick one once I'm inside Qwest, and will send Cindy some pictures from the parking lot and stadium so she can do with them as she pleases.

No matter what happens at the game, I think I join all 'Skins fans in being glad that St. Joe was vindicated, that the team even got this far given everything that's happened to them all year, and that our intrepid scribe/patriarch managed to survive a night in Seattle with his liver intact.

Posted by: PDiddy | January 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I'd give a shout out to everyone that showed up last night, but I'm afraid that a shout would not be well received.

These NW writers -- do they understand that this is just a football game, and no one Up Here is claiming that we're on a mission from God?
Although I did wear sunglasses last night.

Posted by: daggar | January 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I love how our guys have been playing the past four weeks. Intense, hungry, but loose and having fun. They're playing like winners. I don't care what the pundits say about QWest -- football players win playoff games, not stadiums.

Go Skins! Enjoy the game everybody!

Posted by: johnptouhey | January 5, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Hate to do it, but my sons Moss onesie does not fit anymore... i should have planned for this but I thought it would last, damn growth spurts.

I HAD to put him in his only other jersey, a 2T bought for me while he was still in utero.

At the time he was my fav player, then he was uncemoniously dismissed, then he talked trash, then he had tragedy, then he made ammends at ST's funeral.

My man LaVar is the jersey my son will wear today...

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

good point John.

And to all those writers who speak of Seattles record over the last 5 years.

I give you the coach with the 3rd best winning % in the playoffs behind Lombardi and Bellichck, Joseph Jackson Gibbs

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Way to go, Diddy. Great article on you and everybody.

Posted by: farstriker | January 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Pumped! Pumped! Pumped!

PDiddy's right on the money. Win or lose, Coach is St. Joe again. I know I was way hard on him, but when everything was at rock-bottom, Joe Gibbs the leader found his harmonic "C". God bless him, our coaching staff, our players, and all of us in Redskin Nation.

However it ends, make sure there's no arrows left in the quiver; no bullets left in the gun. It's full-speed ahead and get the whiners belowdecks!!!

Posted by: Riggins | January 5, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

One other thought that applies to the Seahawks. John Wayne said this to Kirk Douglas when looking at a sleek battle cruiser heading out to sea right after Pearl Harbor. I consider the 'Hawks that sleek ship.

"A fast ship headed in harm's way, Commander Eddington. A lousy situation."

That's the 'Hawks; a fast ship headed in harm's way.

Posted by: Riggins | January 5, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Just heard a report on ESPN saying that Holmgren doesn't think Deion Branch will play today b/c of his calf. Deion Branch is going to make his case to try and convince Holmgren to let him play but Holmgren doesn't think he's ready.

Hasslebeck suffered a sprained wrist in last weeks game and has had problems wit it in practice all week. He says his accuracy throwing the ball may be an issue today.

Posted by: redskinlaker34 | January 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

John Clayton says Deion Branch is very questionable and a game-time decision. Would be nice if he doesn't play.

Posted by: redskinlaker34 | January 5, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Shiiza! F! Crap! I am jumping out of my Skin! I am Pumped to Molecular Dislocation!!!!! Screw the 12th man! There is way too much talk about those clowns. And this guy that wrote an article to get attention is a putz! Diddy covered that really well. GOOOOO SKIIIIINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant take it...

Posted by: csquaredskins | January 5, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

let's get this thing on!!!!!


will be skiing and watching at 10K above MSL, reppin' it at incline bar and grill at copper mt resort.

will be wearing my # 21 over my ski duds and will be having a grand 'ol time out there. . .

hamsters, enjoy today!!!

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | January 5, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

let them all play, bring them on ! ! !

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | January 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Should be home just in time to crack open my Amstel Light, toast my Portis fathead, and watch kickoff"

Mmok, I think Jerry McGuire - I mean Dr. Evil - said it best..."You complete me...."

The Professor said Deion Branch is "very questionable" guess is he plays but clearly he won't be 100%. "So I've got that going for me, which is nice..."


Posted by: lmgaffney | January 5, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Looks like I'm a little slow this morning (what's new)...nice intel redskinlaker34 - would be nice if Branch was out. Hadn't heard about Hasselbeck - if he's not 100%, that is HUGE for us.

Portis runs for 100 yards, we win. Anybody notice Boswell's article? PRetty strong words, basically guranteed a Skins win. He "normalized" their schedules (threw out their 4 cream puff games and our Pats loss) - we still had a tougher schedule and far better defensive stats. Still, something about Qwest....but we shall overcome!! 21 is steering us to Dallas.......HAIL

p.s. Nate, you making the trip up by chance? I may go to Dallas if we win...was at the game last week (and Meadowlands), so I figure if I keep going to every other game, we can't lose ;)

Posted by: lmgaffney | January 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

oooooh my head hurts!!! those Redskin shots did me in!!!

i hate you PDiddy!!!! ;)

folks...PDiddy is a class act...wouldnt let me pay for anything...good times!!!

only regret is i got there too late to meet jasno...

Gaaaaame Ooooon!!!


Posted by: steveconklin | January 5, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

what am I missing? Was PDiddy some sort of honorary guest? Did he parlay his peerless bloggery into a Hedonistic donnybrook with the entire Redskinette squad?? Pray tell. HAIL

Posted by: lmgaffney | January 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Off to the gym to get my cardio in before the game. Great photo P and I know you guys had a great time last night. I am ready for our team to bring the wood today.

Posted by: jm220 | January 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Im ready to go. Got my #21 on... got my short hair into what might look like a mohawk...gonna swing by target to see if they have any colored hair spray.

Some may know, but I collect native american memorabilia, and I have a war club, about 3.5 ft long piece of petrified wood, skinnier than a baseball bat at its skinniest, with a nice rounded knot at the end. Perfect balance between head and shaft and handle. Handle has some really nice bead work on it.

Almost looks like the arm bone. Do they disallow such things at games? I have always thought yes, but I imagine myself at every home game, taking over for cheif Zee...with my headdress, breast plate and club..

Oh well, it will be with me today in my in-laws living room... hail!

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a regular here but I do love you guys. Smart, funny and endearing.

For those of you concerned about today's game- three key factors to keep in mind.

Seattle Defense: The Hawks are little. Speedy, little guys. If the Skin's O-line is physical, they will open up holes for CP. If they use Seattle's blitzing agressiveness against them with screens and delay runs, they'll probably have success. Key stat- Seattle is undefeated in games in which they have four or more sacks. Winless in games they've had none.

Even Holmgren is quoted this year as saying that because of their small size the pounding tends to really tire them out toward the 4th quarter. The more time the Seattle defense spends on the field, the better it is for us. That's obviously true for any offense, but in this case, it's particularly true because of the Seattle D's lack of stamina. Our offensive line is key. We need to exhaust their small D.

Washington Defense: Greg Williams is one of the most sophisticated and strategically cunning defensive coordinators in the game today. He is flexible and he adjusts. The Skins stacked the box throughout most of this streak, daring teams to pass. John Madden says he expects the exact opposite from Williams today. He predicts Williams will overwehlem with a mix of pass coverage and blitzes to pressure Hasselback to dare Seattle to run. That part of their game is suspect and Williams has faith in the Skins Front 4 and the LB's ability to react to the run.

Collins and the Weather: The weather appears to be very, very funky for today's game with wind gusts up to 40 mph and constant rain, with the wind letting up a little in the second half. Think back to the Giants game. Collins missed his first eight passes. It's a wonder his QB rating is what it is considering what the weather did to the passing game in the Meadowlands that night. But the few times he did connect, Collins did serious damage. This guy is clutch. On a bad-weather day he has already shown he has the guts and the sheer perseverence to get the job done.

There's going to be a lot of talk today about Williams listing Sean Taylor in the starting lineup. Already some writers are calling it a crass move. The way I see it, it is no different than the 10-man formation. It's paying homage to a young man they loved, whose reckless abandon on the field has infused the entire now, mighty, Redskins Defense.

To those two sportswriters who've written that we are exploiting Sean Taylor's murder and being shallow in the process- screw you. It's in the x's and o's, baby. And in the end, and most importantly, it comes down to which team wants it the most. How they come by that desire is nobody's damn business.

Posted by: rgg56 | January 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I uploaded my pics to the wiki of my club and mohawk... same link as above!!!+(Fan+Pictures)?t=anon

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Thank you to the players for not quitting.
Thank you to Coach Gibbs for being such a leader of men during this time.
Thank you to Todd Collins for stepping up and making plays for us in the Red Zone.

Win or lose today, I am proud of this team for the character displayed and for "fighting their guts out" this season.

No, I am not satisfied if we lose.
But I do recognize how this team has risen up in adversity, and united together, and for that I say "thank you".

I will be tough to live with this afternoon...
I am already feeling the intensity level in me increasing...

Skins 20-17

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a regular either--with my month-long disappearing acts--but I thank you for your thorough contribution, rgg56. I agree that this team is allowed to continue to honor Sean Taylor with their play and emotions on the football field. This was how they knew him.

The man died just over a month ago. One month. If there was no talk about him--no tributes and memories, that would ring hollow as well.

I could have missed an article about this, but I haven't heard other NFL players complaining about the way the Redskins remember Sean. Many of them knew him, too. You can't fault his team for channeling his memory into success on the football field. Healing takes many different forms.

And sour grapes from a media homer doesn't mix well with loss.

Posted by: redskirt | January 5, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the Redskins! Bout to head down to the parkinglot and get my drink on again. Huge props to diddy and the rest of the insiders crew. Had a great time partying with you guys last night. Can't wait for the game and subsequent victory celebration!

Posted by: puttinforbird | January 5, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

23-17 Skins

Enjoy the game everyone

-Ricky Bobby

Posted by: johnw | January 5, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Hi all,

I've been reading this blog for a few days now, and I just want to say you all are dedicated and classy fans -- the most diehard I've seen in a while. I'm a lifelong Hawks fan, but best of luck to you guys today.

Posted by: leavings | January 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to you as well, learnings.

It's game time baby! BEER ME!!


Posted by: atkinsoncd | January 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I detect a note of sarcasm from leavings... if not, then good luck as well.

Its beer oclock!

Posted by: Zebraskins | January 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Some interesting Skins and #21 correlations:

Sean Taylor wore #21.

Vs. Chicago S. Springs' INT was returned to you guessed it, the 21 yd line.

Todd Collins then threw a TD to Todd Yoder for yes, 21 yds.

How much time was remaining in the half?
Yep, 21 seconds.

Three games later, we beat Dallas 27-6 for a yep, 21 point margin.

And looking at the draft there is a good chance we could be selecting in the position of #21 team to select.

I won't be superstitious, but did think I would bring it to everyone's attention.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | January 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

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