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A $100 Million Gamble?

My take on the free agency of Albert Haynesworth has always been buyer beware, and that was well before the possibility of signing with the Redskins arose. For a team like Washington, clearly not one player away from being a real contender and with so many holes on offense, it's an even bigger gamble.

This is a guy who has never played a full season, and who has never played more than 65 percent of the snaps. He is someone who has had off-the-field issues and someone who has been an underachiever for much of his career. Keeping fit and motivated has been an issue, and it isn't clear how he'll respond with this kind of guaranteed money in his pocket. The pressure on him is enormous as well; he must elevate the entire defense, be an MVP type of performer and play with consistency -- at a time when the team has eliminated 45 employees who were paid far, far less.

Given the history of these kinds of deals here, it's hard to suspend your disbelief. It may well be another case of paying to a degree others would not and trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. How will Greg Blache alter his defensive approach? The Jason Taylor experiment didn't work, ditto LaVar Arrington before that. Now, they're hoping that Haynesworth can make Taylor and Andre Carter into game changers on the outside. Perhaps he can, but the supporting cast around him won't be what it was in Tennessee.

This guy needs to be special and this defense needs to be all about the big play, especially given the limitations of the offense and the holes on the offensive line (this defense, after all, did finish in the top five a year ago, as Blache repeatedly pointed out). This must be a scoring defense. It must produce two turnovers a game. It must give the offense a short field because this is a team that could not run the ball or protect the passer over the last eight weeks of the season as it finished 2-6.

During personnel meetings, Vinny Cerrato, the vice president of football of operations, made it a point to push the coaches for explanations for the horrible second half. The response to a large degree was that they needed three younger, starting-caliber offensive linemen. Perhaps the Skins will work more salary-cap magic and be able to add several offensive linemen who fit that description. The offseason is far from over, for sure.

But the expectations for Haynesworth, and cornerback DeAngelo Hall, for that matter, are -- and should be -- as high as possible. They must forge the identity of this defense, and the result must be playoff wins. Otherwise, in two or three years, the Redskins will find themselves handcuffed by another contract, making decisions that have more to do with navigating the salary cap than prudent football considerations.

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 27, 2009; 12:45 PM ET
 
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Comments

first?!

Posted by: Rashad8o4 | February 27, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

first!

Posted by: Danno1313 | February 27, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

You get bashed alot on here JLC, but I agree with you on this 100%.

Posted by: bamaboy1 | February 27, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I have to say that Jason La makes sense.

Their biggest need was to cut Campbell and make a run at a quality QB. Jason Campbell is not intelligent enough to read defenses in the red zone.. check offs don't work from the 10 yard line. Until we address the hole at QB, we will never be more than an average football team.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | February 27, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The only explanation is that Snyder is banking on the salary cap going away. Otherwise, we are screwed. Probably screwed anyway.

THIS IS DANA STUBBLEFIELD PART II.

absurd.

Posted by: kdog11 | February 27, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Is JLA the only reporter who thinks this is a bad signing? I havent heard from anyone else it is.

of course he is closer to the skins than any other reporter (say what you will about his sources)

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

I'm surprised it took you so long to write your negative trash.

Maybe had you not fell asleep on your couch, you could have gotten the AH information earlier it was on ProFootballTalk at 5:30.

Don't be mad because you have been saying for weeks, that there was no way they could sign AH. Just except the fact that you started this little pissing match with the FO's, and now you are paying for it by getting outscooped by everyone.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I have no issue with JLC giving his views on things, but tying this contract to laying off 45 staff members is absurd. They two are not related. One is from the revenue generating side of the business (players, on field product), and one is from something that is merely a cost center. Perhaps JLC should learn a bit about running a business before commenting on the non-football side of things.

Posted by: docjohnson | February 27, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The defense should be solid, especially if they pick up a linebacker early in the draft, and Haynesworth will force teams to account for him. As good as the defense was last year, Big Al should be enough of a difference maker to create the short fields and turnovers we were missing. There is supposed to be a bunch of value guys available after the Big Al's of free agency get theirs, so maybe we pick up Dockery or the guy from Seattle and Rhinehart develops. Sounds good right??

Posted by: jimschaecher | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps he can, but the supporting cast around him won't be what it was in Tennessee."

He's right. It will be better.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

So all 32 team would have taken a gamble buddy!!!

Albert was going to get 100 million wherever he went.

He might of gotten it even in the CFL...

So please say this is a 32 team gamble.

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Schlefter didnt love the move either:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/27/snyders-stimulus-plan/

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The pressure on him is enormous as well; he must elevate the entire defense, be an MVP type of performer and play with consistency -- at a time when the team has eliminated 45 employees who were paid far, far less.

By Jason La Canfora | February 27, 2009; 12:45 PM ET

Is this what you call a non sequitur? Or are you claiming that the Redskins fired 45 to save money for Haynesworth? Did he cost their jobs?

Look the 45 who lost their jobs were in sales, marketing, stadium operations, etc. With Haynesworth here, jersey sales will skyrocket and we'll probably hire back these 45 plus their spouses. The national economy will soar. Happy days are here again!

Cindy will edit this foolishness out of the print edition.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with JLA 100%. This is not the right signing for this team. However, we have play in a division where defensive lineman often decide the outcome of the games...

Posted by: pettyskins86 | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

We signed two guys to massive contracts.

Both Hall and Haynesworth played much better when their contracts were on the line.

Relative to last year, the Skins have substantially upgraded one spot on the team from last year that wasn't particularly problematic. DE, OLB, the OL, WR and both kickers were all more problematic than the interior DL.

The Skins have also downgraded their secondary with the loss of Springs. Those who argue he missed games have a point, but in the games Springs played, he was a very good player. His work on TO in the 1st dal game was a big part of the reason the Skins won in dal.

Naturally, the Skins are bumping against the cap, which has a ripple effect on who can be brought in and who can go. The ability to fix the OL, improve at WR, resign our QB and retain our other young CB are all diminished by these large contracts

No doubt Hall and Haynesworth are terrific talents and I hope it works out.

I have my doubts.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Three young offensive linemen is what they told vinney they needed. Really?

It think it's more evident now than ever, Danny Snyder is running this team and vinny is his puppet and scapegoat.

At least i have the CAPS to cheer for. Hell, i even bought a caps jersey before a redskins jersey and i've been a skins fan all my life-growing up in New Mexico of all places.

Posted by: Devo2 | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

JLC, is and always will be a Redskin Beat-us-up reporter.

Posted by: EGENOUS | February 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

There is still plenty of time to adress the O-line, and no matter how much S_G cries they were not going to get rid of JC.

If the Ravnes had signed AH, JLC would have been J#rking it on his couch this morning.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Rhinehart develops. Sounds good right??

Posted by: jimschaecher | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM

Rhinehart will not develop. It has been said that the team considers him a disappointment, especially by blowing a 3rd round pick. This guy is a bust.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | February 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

My mantra with all things skins since about 96:

Hope it works, don't think it will.

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

@ talentevaluator

Couldn't agree more (see my prior post), except your comment on the economic recovery. Don't hold your breath.

Posted by: docjohnson | February 27, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

To me, Hall is the bigger gamble. He played very well as a Redskin, but prior to that Hall played poorly enough to get released from a terrible Raiders team. He's got a huge ego and a history of divisive conflicts with coaches, team mates, and opposing players. Hall's upside is huge, but so is his risk.

Haynesworth at least has shown the ability to completely dominate on a level that garnered him the defensive player of the year award, despite playing less than 65 percent of the snaps. He also meets a definite need at DT and stylistically, Haynesworth is a much better fit than Jason Taylor is/was.

Posted by: noptov | February 27, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

You are a little chotch JLC, just throwing in your little dig about the front office. what does that have to do about whether haynesworth is going to be a game changer or not? don't forget that schwartz's system came from Grilliams so haynesworth may not be as much of a square peg as you think.

arrington's health was declining during his tenure in the gregg williams defense, he was out of the league a year after he left DC, guess he was a square peg in NYC too huh.

if haynesworth pans out you will have some half hearted explanation like when you tried to explain why you called a 5"10 reciever a possession type reciever.

you are a joke you little dork, nice job getting scooped on the haynesworth signing you should call this blog "redskins outsider" I hope WAPO has their own round of layoffs as i cannot think of naybody who is more a waste of space let alone payroll than you.

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

JLC, Why don't you go get a job reporting on Some team you don't hate!?!?!

Posted by: russberlin65 | February 27, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If the Ravnes had signed AH, JLC would have been J#rking it on his couch this morning.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse


LMFAO

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Springs was just on espn980 and left me with the distinct impression he will be a Dallas Cowboy:

Doc asked him to promise that he wouldnt go to Dallas. Frank joked that he couldnt sign there because Springs had said he wanted to play for a winner. At first, Springs jokingly promised that he wouldnt go to the cowobys, but at the end of the interview, Doc reiterated that Springs had better not go to Dallas. Springs response was something along the lines of, "you better not harrass me when you find out where i'm going."

Posted by: bighairedaristocrat | February 27, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

This is only considered a good to great signing if the Skins can also sign/draft a young stud who can start and dominate at right or left tackle AND a unoung stud who can dominate at right guard AND one at left guard too. Perhaps they need to trade up in the draft to get the offensive tackle they need...frankly I dont see how they fill the 2 big holes at guard. If they get Dockery for one of them (and I dont consider him a dominant player), that still leaves a big need at right guard. Maybe they can again trade up into high into the 2nd round and get the best guard avialable in the draft.

Posted by: oddjob1 | February 27, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Campbell not intelligent enough? How many picks did he have in the rz? You sir are an idiot

Posted by: AdamCr | February 27, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

JLC, can never break a story for us. It is always another source that gives us the story.

Posted by: EGENOUS | February 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I thought Springs was singing with the PATS.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Everyone, including coaches, love to talk about how great our defense was last year. Forget "rankings," our defense was pathetic - the worst "top 5" defense in NFL history. We stopped opposing team drives because opposing teams either failed to convert (bad pass, dropped ball, poor play call) or they missed a FG or decided to punt.

Can anyone remember a great defensive play from last year? The only reason we didn't give up 20+ a game was because of Springs, Hall, Rogers, Landry, London, and Horton. Without those guys serving as safety nets, we would have been scorched week in and week out.

With Haynesworth, we now have a stud on the defensive line for the first time in over a decade. He requires double and triple teams, which opens up gaps for JT, Carter, and any other LBs or DBs that come blitzing. This signing isn't a bandaid to the defense, it's a huge relief for a team that has never been able to get to the QB with this coaching staff.

Finally, every other team was offering similar money to Haynesworth, but some here will ignore that and make it seem like we overpaid by $20 million. Get over your hatred - this was a smart move for a 27 year old (not a 33 year old).

Posted by: Section104 | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

If the Ravnes had signed AH, JLC would have been J#rking it on his couch this morning.

Posted by: Flounder21

no he wouldn't have hed be too busy teabagging leigh torrance

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Springs is a 5-6 games a year guy, so it doesn't really matter were he goes.

Whoever said we downgraded our secondary by letting Springs go, I hope you were joking.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

No big disagreements with JLA here. Except...

I'm not sure what firing 45 employees has to do with the deal.

Hopefully Blache won't have to "alter" his defensive approach at all. I thought the idea is that Haynesworth would fit right in to the scheme and philosophy (unlike a guy like JT55).

The Hall signing is less a gamble I believe. Didn't he show us last year that he can fit into the defense and be successful? After getting trashed in Oakland and being labeled a "bust", I think he has decent motivation to play well after this payday - he probably doesn't want to go through that experience again.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Springs was just on espn980 and left me with the distinct impression he will be a Dallas Cowboy.

Posted by: bighairedaristocrat | February 27, 2009 1:03 PM

Let's hope so. Dallas will be stuck with a safety who shows up every other weekend.

But the guy could sure play when he did show up.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Once again JLC finds a way to put a negative spin on things...It does not matter that every team offered the same that wanted him.....

Also...why no mention of how for two weeks JLC claimed the info he got from Redskins park was that they were not going to be players in FA....LOL your so good at getting inside info....Why not man up and admit you had no clue and were WRONG.....Aisde from that....why you hate the Skins so much you want to tear down every single move they make....I suppose this is how you gets hits on your blog and keep your job.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"For a team like Washington, clearly not one player away from being a real contender and with so many holes on offense, it's an even bigger gamble."

Who would you consider one player away in today's NFL? The Eagles? The Cowboys? The Giants? San Francisco? Arizona? Come on, who would have said 17 games into last season that the Cards would be in the Super Bowl. It's such a crap shoot that a comment like that doesn't make any sense. This team was only a couple plays away from making the post-season, and probably a couple away from being 6-10. Can one player who pressures a QB have that much impact? The Skins D was solid last year, and the one thing that kept them from being elite was a pass rush/being able to stop a big runner. Doesn't he help out a lot with both of these? I agree it's a lot of money, but they didn't sign anyone last off season (until after training camp) and look where that got them. I like the move...it may not work out, but to doubt--with a high degree of certainty--that it will right now doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Posted by: emc7x | February 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

This is really not a shocker. Would have been a good move for everyone else but the Redskins. Interesting.........

I think too many people don't understand the salary cap and the conseuences of an unCAPped year.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Campbell not intelligent enough? How many picks did he have in the rz? You sir are an idiot

Posted by: AdamCr | February 27, 2009 1:04 PM

That was more from fear than a lack of intelligence. He would rather settle for a field goal, than to take a chance and whip the ball in there.

We need a QB that plays to win, and not one who plays not to lose.

So, yes.. Jason Campbell is not only unintelligent, but he is a coward as well. Is that the kind of man that you want commanding our offense?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | February 27, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

If the Ravnes had signed AH, JLC would have been J#rking it on his couch this morning.

Posted by: Flounder21

no he wouldn't have hed be too busy teabagging leigh torrance

I LOVE IT, SO TRUE!! THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS!!

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It's funny to listen to all the comments but the bottomline is this. While AH and DH are talents and again it looks like the Skins win another off-season championship, it all doesn't matter if it doesn't translate to wins. And you know what, none of the big FA splashes of years past has worked here. I wasn't even excited when I heard the news this morning b/c I am tired of being psyched in March and then disappointed year after year in December. If we are in the playoffs next year and the following ones as well then these were good signings but until that happens I am leaning towards this not working out b/c we have been burnt so many times in the past and Dan and Vinny don't deserve the benefit of the doubt b/c they have been in charge every time the Skins do this. I hope this works out but I have serious doubts.

Posted by: jayandcat | February 27, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

How can supposedly smart people continue to pursue a model that has never been proven to work? Is it because the focus is really on keeping the buzz alive and consequently the ticket and merchandise sales? It's the only way I can rationalize this.

Posted by: collins63 | February 27, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Springs is a 5-6 games a year guy, so it doesn't really matter were he goes.

Whoever said we downgraded our secondary by letting Springs go, I hope you were joking.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM

Agreed.

You and I sir, think very much alike.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | February 27, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Everyone, including coaches, love to talk about how great our defense was last year. Forget "rankings," our defense was pathetic - the worst "top 5" defense in NFL history. We stopped opposing team drives because opposing teams either failed to convert (bad pass, dropped ball, poor play call) or they missed a FG or decided to punt.

Posted by: Section104 | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Dude, this is one of the most confused posts I've read.

The "worst" top 5 defense in NFL history?? Do you have any actual facts/evidence to base your way hyperbolic opinion on?

"We stopped opposing team drives because opposing teams either failed to convert (bad pass, dropped ball, poor play call) or they missed a FG or decided to punt."

So stopping conversions, forcing punts and bad passes and good coverage that results in dropped passes does NOT count as good defense???

Everyone knows our secondary ws the strength of the team, but why is that something to criticize??


Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"I think too many people don't understand the salary cap and the conseuences of an unCAPped year.

Posted by: 4thFloor"

Nor do they understand the value of the "low-priced" free agents they're suggesting (who are nowhere near low-priced in reality).

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Schlefter didnt love the move either:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/27/snyders-stimulus-plan/

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

i saw nothing in this article that stated he did not like the move...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

guru;

he is not lacking talent, he is being micromanagaed. If you are told not to take a chance, then he ont take the chance. every QB has to be a little gunslinger. we dont know if he can or cant because they have never let him try.

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It's all about the Benjamin's. He'll tank,we all know the history here in DC.

Posted by: ridgely1 | February 27, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Many up here think these signings indicate Danny's expectation/desire to get rid of the salary cap. I agree.

But, as I perceptively pointed out before:

GETTING RID OF THE SALARY CAP IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.

The Skins are in a division with the NFL's FINANCIAL powerhouses. Both the jints and dal are getting new stadiums that should generate huge revenues. Philly got a new stadium just 5 years ago. The 3 largest stadiums in the NFL are in the NFC East.

The jints actually get to cost share their stadium with the Jets, providing a huge financial advantage over most NFL teams.

If the Skins resided in the NFC West, where 3/4 of the owners are penny-pinchers, a capless league would benefit the Skins and playoffs would be close to an annual event.

Over the past several years, the Skins outspent every team in the division, only to be marginal playoff contenders.

In theory, getting rid of the cap should benefit the richest teams. While the Skins are among them, so is the rest of the NFC East. It is where the richest teams reside.

The Skins challenge becomes more difficult without a cap. Unfortunately, Danny doesn't see it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"For a team like Washington, clearly not one player away from being a real contender and with so many holes on offense, it's an even bigger gamble."

Posted by: Jason LaCantwriteforshtta | February 27, 2009 12:45 PM

I see, so after watching Arizona beat Philly in the NFC championship game, and being 1 fluke play away from winning the Super Bowl, you still want to cling to this "the Skins are clearly not close to being a contender" thing. Really? Look, we know you're probably a little embarassed that you were wrong, as usual, when you said there were probably going to be unable to re-sign Hall, and there was "not much of a chance" they were going to sign Haynesworth, and even more embarassed that you got scooped on a Redskins story by some blogger out in Houston, but can you give it a rest already? Clearly you're wrong at least 3 times for every time you've been right, you have no "inside" information, and your opinion on football matters is absolutely worthless. It's funny how a guy that probably never played a sport in his life (Tecmo Bowl does not count, sorry) has such a self-inflated sense of his own opinion. You're point of view is clearly reactionary, based on convenience, and as negative as you think you can get away with. You were screaming the praises of this team when it was 6-2, but then after a bad finish, according to you, we clearly had "a lack of talent". It's funny how all of our players went from good talent to no talent instantly after the season was half over. I can not wait for the day someone puts this pudgy little dork in his place and boots him from the Post.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

S_G.

I'd much rather have someone like McNabb, who whines all the time and can't win the big one. Or how about Romo, who made his big bucks but can't throw to anyone but his TE. Or would you prefer E. Manning? If it wasn't for Plax and the defense giving him good field position, he wouldn't be all that.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I've always been against Snyder and Cerrato but Haynesworth and Hall are two players on defense that can actually win you games.

I repeat, they can WIN you games.

If you sign Hall and not Haynesworth or vice versa then signing Hall is a gamble. But as he even said himself, many think Haynesworth is the best d-lineman in football and now he's being paid for it.

IMHO Haynesworth is nearly unblockable and will be demanding 2-3 guys every snap to block him. If Taylor and Carter can't get sacks now then shame on them.

I predict Hall has 7-8 picks next year and at least two of them for TD's. The defense has dramatically improved today.

I see no gamble this time, they are not old washed up players as years past. They are in thier prime.

Now they have to address the offense, and if J.Campbell does not improve I think this is the last year you could see him as a Redskin.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 27, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"at a time when the team has eliminated 45 employees who were paid far, far less"

wow....cheap shot...if there ever was one.

Its like the Redskins were the only team to lay off any workers....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

The front-office firings are a red herring. Not really worth bringing that up.

If Haynesworth is going to count 7-10% of the total 2009 cap, he better single-handedly account for 7-10% of the total 2009 success. For me, that means being an every down player, staying healthy, and putting in a dominating, game-turning effort in at least one division game. Anything less than that and the 'Skins overpaid.

Personally, given Haynesworth's track record, I think that's a typical gamble by one of the NFL's mediocre franchises.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Winslow got traded to the Bucs for draft picks.

The moral of the story?

When you are the 5th person to get staph infection from your team's lockerroom, don't complain about it or you could lose your job.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

exactly ray, we didnt extend him which is the good news. we havent let him play up to his potential, and if you are not gonna do that, they why extend him.

getting rid of him makes no sense... you still have to see what you have. he did make steps in the right direction the first year in a complicated system. it took hasselbeck 3 years to get it..

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

i think every other team in the NFL would have made this "gamble" but i love how on ESPN they said the signing is not great and over paid but if like dallas or NY signed him it would have been called the best signing in history

Posted by: skinsst21 | February 27, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,

your Jasons boss, can you explain how the redskins eliminating 45 positions has anything to do with how albert haynesworth will perform?

just like to see the correlation there thanks

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

no he wouldn't have hed be too busy teabagging leigh torrance

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM
========================

Post of the century.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 27, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree Beantown, that comment by JLC is completely unrelated to the signings of the people that make the money for the company(Redskins). It just like asking Jim Calhoun to give back some of the money he makes for UConn. If you make money for your company, you are going to continue to get paid and unfortunately the ones who don't generate money are the ones that are let go, it just the way it is.

Posted by: jayandcat | February 27, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

its redskins bias nobody lampooned the eagles for signing TO or javon Kearse, they were huge busts for the eagles.

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

If you think that's a reach, just consider that Tennessee was 22-7 the past two seasons (including postseason games) when Haynesworth was on the field and 1-4 when he wasn't. You also can look at his production during that time -- he amassed 14½ sacks in 27 regular-season games, an impressive number for an interior player -- and see how vital he was to a Titans defense that ranked near the top of the NFL in most statistical categories. Haynesworth's ability to consistently beat double-teams made it nearly impossible to run inside on the Titans. His improved pass-rushing skills made it just as easy for his other teammates to pressure quarterbacks

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3939231

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Jefrri Chadiha likes the move...whoever he is...

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"I think too many people don't understand the salary cap and the conseuences of an unCAPped year.

Posted by: 4thFloor"

Nor do they understand the value of the "low-priced" free agents they're suggesting (who are nowhere near low-priced in reality).

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 1:12 PM

Yes indeedy.

Today's Example:


D Foxworth got 40 or 50 Mil Deal today. He'll be averaging 8Mil a year.

And DTs will never be cheap again......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Springs is a 5-6 games a year guy, so it doesn't really matter were he goes.

Whoever said we downgraded our secondary by letting Springs go, I hope you were joking.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:06 PM

Agreed.

You and I sir, think very much alike.

Posted by: Sports_Guru

I said it and stand by it. Springs was a huge factor in dal and his work on TO was the difference that game. yes, Springs missed a lot of games (I did point that out), but when he was in, he was a very good CB. Now we have Rogers and Hall, but our 3rd CB is Smoot, followed by Tryon.

Springs was overpaid given his injury risk and I agree that he needed to go. Still, its also clear that he was a quality player and losing him downgrades our secondary.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Schlefter didnt love the move either:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/27/snyders-stimulus-plan/

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM |


Huh? I have read the article, and Schefter does not even hint that he didn't like the move. It's shocking that Jason LaCantreporta doesn't like the move; I think I'll take the positive reviews of all the people with real football credibility that have been all over radio and tv all morning talking about how much Haynesworth helps the team and what we paid was market value.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Agree 100%. He'll be a bust, guaranteed.

Posted by: mattpearson30 | February 27, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I haven't heard one reporter yet - including Kornheiser and Pasquarelli - say this was anything but a good move.

As for trying to marry the 45 people laid off at Redskins Park to AH getting a fat contract, that's about as big a stretch as anything this fat bag of pus has written since claiming a Redskin "cried" when Leigh Torrence was cut.

If the WaPo has any sense left at all, they'll pink this worthless scribe and hire someone who has better sources and better writing skills.

Such people are available in this economy. The Rocky Mountain News just went belly-up, as did The New York Sun.

Watch your back, Tubby.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

i dont know boys and girls...feels a lot like here we go again...little danny cant control himself and overpays for the big splashes...

you cant argue it wasnt overpaying...after saying they needed to avoid the big free agents and find better value for the dollars. smaller bang but far less buck...

we go out and drop $100 mil on someone who is a stud but has a much skepticism around him...

hall supposedly was supposed to potentially fetch UP TO $15mil guaranteed and we go out and throw $23mil guaranteed...uh...thats over 50% more than his potential...

how much room do we have left to focus on the depth we really need throughout this roster? so many needs left yet to fill and the cap space eats up so quickly...

i guess the only saving grace here...maybe the real difference is that we are going after guys in their 20s rather than their 30s. maybe thats the difference...

or is this all about a no cap season next year??? am i missing something?

Posted by: deadskin | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not criticizing our secondary, I'm saying they were the only reason we didn't give up tons of points. But you don't win in the NFL (see Steelers, Giants, Patriots) if you don't have a defense that gets to the QB and forces turnovers.

Sure, you can compete - after all - these guys are all gifted athletes. But you can't be a dominant unless you get turnovers, which we haven't done in far too long. Most of our defensive stops ended up with our offense pinned inside the 20. The top tier teams often had drives starting inside the opponents 40. We rarely did, because our front four was weak. Now, that's fixed and we can focus on other problems.

Oh - and my reference to being one of the worst top 5 defenses was simply saying that stats don't mean anything. According to the stats, we were a top 5 defense, but according to what they actually did for our team and offense, they were pathetic.

Posted by: Section104 | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Guru have you ever played the QB position? Pro level, college level, high school level, pee-wee level?

I've played the position up to High School and I don't care who you are, if you snap the ball and two defensive linemen are already in the backfield, you're not going to get much production in the air.

As far as questioning Campbell's intelligence, I really don't get that at all because he protects the ball fairly well given the fact he's running for his life at every snap. When I hear people say it really pisses me off, as its code speak for something else. Do you question Favre's intelligence or Romo's intelligence as well?

Posted by: clark202 | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1,

Your theory only works if the salary cap is rid forever. Even then, I would disagree because the rest of the NFC East would be able to compete with the Redskins in spending, but a majority of the league could not. So even though the division becomes slightly more difficult, the rest of the league becomes easier. And in the short term, new stadiums create less profit. They generate more revenue, but they also cost MUCH more than the older ones. Their value comes in the overall value of the franchise (if they were to be sold), and if they're open for a long period of time.

And if the league is uncapped for only one year, it most benefits the teams that are "strapped" by bad contracts that they would otherwise be unable to rid. The Redskins definitely fall into that moreso than any of the other NFC East teams.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Last year the Redskins blitzed more than any other team, yet had very few TO as a result. If AH is what he's supposed to be, I think the blitz percentage goes down, and the blitzes themselves are more effective. I am already dreaming about Chris Horton or LL coming free in the A gap and sacking Tony Romo.
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i can't remember who posted this, (it was on the last thread), but the redskins very rarely blitzed last year. someone must have been watching the games in SD or something

Posted by: notthecrochunter | February 27, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

deadskin

werent you the one extolling the eagles from the mountaintops when they were in the NFC championship game? haven't heard from you til now, figures I guess

cry eagles cry!!

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Look, the SKins are severly handicapped with Vinnie and Danny running the show...so this is the best they can do. Its just a fact we have to live with until Danny finally wakes up and kills Vinnie and brings in a decent GM.

Posted by: oddjob1 | February 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

jay, the pats laid off employees, heck the NFL has laid off employee's, I just don't see the relevance of putting that in what was a well written post. It just comes across as bitter, and petulant.....

How are employees who work for the team, in any way shape or form, related to the salary cap?? This is just as moronic as the people who were under the impression that because 6-Flags was struggling, the skins would suddenly become cheap....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I have one word to say about this FA signing:

Dave Butz.

Butz was the last great DT to play in Washington, and I am fingers-crossed that Haynesworth will be just as good. I loved Darrell Grant (I can still see him high-stepping into the end zone!), and Big Daddy was a force, but they were no Dave Butz.

I guarantee you that every player on the defense is glad that AH is coming to Washington. They'll all get better and make more money (perhaps elsewhere) as a result of playing with this guy. He could be the difference between a good and a dominating defense.

Yes, they need help on the O line. And the receiving corps desperately needs to perform up to expectations. I am waiting to see if Kelly, Thomas, and Davis start running routes with JC outside of the OTA.

This team finished LAST in the NFC East, yet was tantalizingly close to making the playoffs. Two last-second plays defensed against SFO and STL puts them at 10-6. A better call by Zorn on the goal line in CIN makes them 11-5.

Not saying woulda-coulda-shoulda, just pointing out that they were in every game except PIT, and had bona-fide chances of going 11-5. Even though they only scored 13 PPG.

So, a defense that is dominant, a couple of new guys on the OL, and get production from the second-year WR... and yeah, I see them as a playoff team, and one that has SB potential.


BTW, all you guys crying about build through the draft, long-term this and that... It's all about this year -- listen to Mike Tomlin's speech after the SB.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Section 104,

You could reverse that and say what our offense didn't do for our defense was pathetic. They just tired out having to on the field so much cause the O couldn't sustain drives or score points.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Schlefter doesn't directly critize the move, but there are digs and questions raised.

But whateves don't let me spoil the party. I love Football in February! I don't even know why people watch the games when this is so much more fun!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 27, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I really wish somebody would explain how laying of 45 people has to do with haynesworth.

Guess they should cut moss, portis, cooley and just sign undrafted free agents becuase it is just terrible to pay these players market value because the economy is bad.

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So all 32 team would have taken a gamble buddy!!!

Albert was going to get 100 million wherever he went.

He might of gotten it even in the CFL...

So please say this is a 32 team gamble.

Posted by: 1skinfan | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

i guaranty the steelers, colts or patriots would NOT have signed him to that contract. but what do they know?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | February 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

laying off, i mean

i have no issue with 45 people getting laid

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So AH was the #1 free agent on EVERYBODY's board and then Jason as well as many others give the Skins grief for signing him. Give me a break. We got a guy with much upside as well as some downside. But doesn't this hold true for EVERY PRO player.

I am glad we have an owner who is willing to shell out his OWN money to help the team. And this signing will help.

But if we did not land AH, then some other team (maybe a NFC East team) would have picked him up and Jason (and others) would have lambasted the Skins for not getting AH.

Can't win.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | February 27, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh - and my reference to being one of the worst top 5 defenses was simply saying that stats don't mean anything. According to the stats, we were a top 5 defense, but according to what they actually did for our team and offense, they were pathetic.

Posted by: Section104 | February 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Gotcha. Just as long as we are clear that your statement was based on no actual facts/evidence and was tantamount to the noises coming from your backside.

Posted by: p1funk | February 27, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

listen...it really doesn't matter whether we LOVE or HATE this signing. Personally, i think SnyderMegaMoney couldve been used more effectively to provide awesome depth. Whatever...this is what we've got so why don't we start talking about the types of things that Haynesworth might allow us to do on Defense. There is a chance we could be AWESOME...

Posted by: carsonspence | February 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

maybe jason could hire those 45 people to get scoops for him, god knows he needs the help.

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Gang,


I hope Haynesworth stomps on Napoleon's face. Way too much money for a player who is (1) fat, (2) injured, (3) lazy, (4) getting old, and (5) non needed position. Maybe he is the greatest ever (not), but this is football, not basketball, and 1 out of 53 is not getting 'Skins the Lombardi trophy.

Posted by: duh2mag | February 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

For all you people hating on JLC for writing negative press on the Skins, get over it. You all clearly have had way too much Danny Snyder fruit punch.

Haynesworth is a great player. I don't even care about the debate of is he going to be motivated or not. The bigger issue is which undrafted FA is going to start in his place on the D line when he is injured or has to sit out plays. Also, who's going to play on the offensive line when Jansen, Thomas, Kendall, or Samuels get injured? I hope Geisenger's been practicing growing a few inches over the offseason to fill the backup tackle position again this year.

The point is one of our biggest problems is we have no depth at all. How do you people who celebrate the signing not recognize the fact it prevents us from signing numerous players who would help?

I like how the Vinny is pointing to the development of our 3 2nd rounders as the key to our offenses improvement. He's already trying to put them in the position of taking the downfall for next years failure on offense when we have to play a 6'0'' sub 300 lber at tackle.

Posted by: whoyawith | February 27, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan,

That's because the Steelers, Colts, and Patriots all had less cap space then the Skins.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Even going beyond the obvious joke that JLC has become, I have to say I'm quite tired of the arrogance of a lot of sports "reporters" out there that think they would win the Super Bowl every year if only they were a GM. No one cares what some dorky beat reporter thinks, and why should they? As a reporter, JLC should stick to reporting (if he even remembers how to do that); leave the analyzing to the analysts, because they actually know what they're talking about. I think the chronic negativity comes from bitterness and jealousy. We know, Vinny has a better job than you, and Snyder has more money in his couch than you have in your 401k, but let's try to keep your own petty animosity for them out of your "reports," OK?

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

who,

We have deapth on the D-Line Golston/Montgomery, the O-Line will be adressed FA's just started they have money to sign O-Line.

And stop crying for JLC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"For a team like Washington, clearly not one player away from being a real contender and with so many holes on offense, it's an even bigger gamble."

Says who?

They were one game away - or one Pete Kendall blunder away - from being 9-7.

What were the NFC Champion Cardinals? Oh, yeah, 9-7.

I could pick apart the rest of the post for contradictory statements, dubious claims and outright weirdness (i.e., the "defense MUST produce 2 turnovers per game"), but why bother.

JLC, the walking, talking sebaceous gland, has more hate in his heart than can be accounted for. He must be a real treat to live with.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of hearing about the salary cap and how the Skins are going to be screwed a few years down the line. You know what? I have been hearing that for the last 10 years, and we just signed a $100 million dollar player. Fans shouldn't worry about the salary cap. Be happy that this is a big signing and an immediate improvement on the defensive line.

Posted by: TeeSkins | February 27, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

be an MVP type of performer and play with consistency -- at a time when the team has eliminated 45 employees who were paid far, far less.

You got to be kidding me!!! WTF! One has nothing to do with the other.

It may well be another case of paying to a degree others would not

Sorry but it's been reported that other teams was also willing to pay big money for the guy. You really need to grow up and let this little childish thing with Vinny go.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

i encourage EVERYONE who is tired of JLC's pettiness to email him right now. just ask him one question

What does the redskins laying off 45 people have to do with haynesworth????

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

this defense, after all, did finish in the top five a year ago, as Blache repeatedly pointed out).

If I am not mistaken you was the same one blasting the team about the lack of sacks and turnover. To the point that Blache had to blast you during one of his interviews.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who are crying about he money Hall/Haynesworth are getting......it's not your money so don't worry about it.

Just be happy the Skins have them and not Dallas or someone like that.

I approve these signings! ;))))

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | February 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

im sure jLCs marriage is a sham, think Vito in "the Sopranos" Leigh Torrance is his "johnny cakes"

Posted by: drewkinnear | February 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Looking for more columnists who question this move? Add SI's Don Banks to the list:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/02/27/haynesworth/?eref=sircrc

I agree with him, BTW.

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I have zero football experience, but if I were an owner/GM, I would study what the consistently successful teams (NE, Pittsburgh, etc.) are doing and build my team that way. This is all about creating hype, marketing, eliminating the owner's boredom of sitting on the sidelines during the offseason, and of course making money. There is no other way to explain why they refuse to learn from others and want to do things THEIR way.

Posted by: RHPa | February 27, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The Jets and Scott's agent, Harold Lewis, have agreed in principle to a five-year, $40 million deal, according to multiple sources, but the deal still needs Scott's endorsement.

If SCOTT IS WORTH 8 mil a year. AH IS DEF WORTH 12.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"this is football, not basketball, and 1 out of 53 is not getting 'Skins the Lombardi trophy.

Posted by: duh2mag"

This would make sense if the Redskins only had 1 player on their roster. Unfortunately for you, the Redskins also have ~45 players that were here last year, are returning 10 starters on defense, 11 starters on offense, and will be adding at least 4 more draft selections, with the possibility of more free agent signings to come. That, coupled with the fact that the defense just got younger, the offense has a progressively improving quarterback, a number of highly talented youngsters that can reasonably be expected to improve, and a head coach that now has an extremely valuable year of experience under his belt, and it's very hard to imagine this team not improving -- regardless of whether Haynesworth was on the roster. Add in a home-run or two with their draft picks, and this team is a bona-fide contender in the NFC.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I would like to ask all the people out here where all these OL signings are going to come from. There is no way we can have the cap room now to sign Dock and someone else. And if we don't draft the best Offensive Lineman available at 13 I'm just going to turn off the TV come in december when our offense puts up 8.9 points a game because we JC doesn't have time to throw the ball, CP doesn't have lanes to run in, and we can't make a freaking field goal with the worst kicker in football. It doesn't matter what the defense does!

Posted by: Jooshman26 | February 27, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I am tired of hearing about the salary cap and how the Skins are going to be screwed a few years down the line. You know what? I have been hearing that for the last 10 years, and we just signed a $100 million dollar player. Fans shouldn't worry about the salary cap. Be happy that this is a big signing and an immediate improvement on the defensive line.

Posted by: TeeSkins | February 27, 2009 1:35 PM |
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Bingo.

And JLC is so stuck on stupid that he actually mentions salary cap issues AGAIN in this post.

You're right. Ever since the cap came into place, some people have been wondering when the Redskins are going to get bit by it. And it hasn't happened yet. And it won't.

For owners in this league willing to spend, there is no such thing as a salary cap. They just restructure contracts, defer payments and keep a-rollin'.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I hate the deal, and hate the fact that Snyder and Cerrato screwed the fans again. Why spend $100 millon on one player, when we have numerous holes on the team. Most notably, Defensive Pass Rusher, Linebacker, Offensive linemen, QB, and receivers. By spending this amount on Haynesworth, the front office has pretty much said that they do not care about depth, do not care about building for the future, and do not care about the fans. I am one fan who is not drinking the Kool-Aid. This move will only add to the list of failures of free agents since Snyder tookover. I love the Redskins with all of my heart, but I urge my fellow fans to not renew your season tickets, and let your money go to waste. Even without all of the personnel moves made, I do not see the Redskins winning more then 8 games again nect season. We are built to be medicore, and it will only continue, until moves like the Haynesworth signing cease to exist.

Posted by: RedskinAddict | February 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

jm, no kidding, at some point in time, we all have to put childish things behind us, he just needs to man up, and either apologize to VS, or bury the hatchet. When you can't get past the vitriol, and it starts effecting your work, its either time to move on, or get another job.....let it go.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

psps -- on the cap -- its important to know the Skins play in the division with other financial powerhouses and its tough to get 3 teams from one division into the playoffs.

The Skins play 38% of their games against just 3 teams. Making those 3 teams better doesn't help the Skins make it to the playoffs.

Making the NFC East tougher by losing the cap isn't in the Skins best interest. If the cap goes in 2010, its not at all clear that it will return at any point after 2010.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I would like to ask all the people out here where all these OL signings are going to come from. There is no way we can have the cap room now to sign Dock and someone else. And if we don't draft the best Offensive Lineman available at 13 I'm just going to turn off the TV come in december when our offense puts up 8.9 points a game because we JC doesn't have time to throw the ball, CP doesn't have lanes to run in, and we can't make a freaking field goal with the worst kicker in football. It doesn't matter what the defense does!

Posted by: Jooshman26 | February 27, 2009 1:39 PM |

Really according to JLC there was no way we had the cap room to sign Hall/Haynesworth.

Stop worrying about the cap they always get the money, so sit back have a ham sandwich and watch the show.

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Scott will be the biggest FA bust in years. Ray and Tsizzle made him a much better player...

Posted by: Zeebs | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

guys, relax...now we add a punter or two in the draft and we're all set.

Posted by: jeffhayes1 | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

He may be a good addition. But will we pay the price in our salary cap inability to sign the offensive linemen we need (either drafted or free agents) to take some pressure off of the defense?
This is a matter of competing priorities and I think the wrong priority won.

Posted by: WhereIsJackKentCooke | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN:

If you need more evidence of why the Redskins did the right thing here, think about recent history as well. The New York Jets traded for former Carolina defensive tackle Kris Jenkins last offseason and gave a five-year, $35 million deal to a player who had become as much a headache to his own team as to opponents. The Cleveland Browns also decided to sign defensive tackle Shaun Rogers, a fat, lazy underachiever in Detroit, to a six-year, $42 million deal around the same time. Both players wound up making the Pro Bowl -- and Rogers even played hurt for portions of the season.

The point to be made here is that those players got paid because they can be highly disruptive when properly motivated. Haynesworth, by the way, hasn't struggled with motivation in more than two years. He has been more productive than both Jenkins and Rogers during that time and he certainly has been more focused. That's the kind of player that is worth investing heavily in, especially when you're talking about a position where it's hard to find oversized, athletic players in the first place.

So when you start to evaluate the Redskins' decision to pay Haynesworth mind-boggling money, please be sure to view all the dimensions involved in this deal. This isn't merely another example of Snyder's spending money as if he's a first-year college student armed with his daddy's credit card. The Redskins basically did what they had to do to improve a team that desperately needed defensive line help. And right now the smart money says that Haynesworth is more than ready to give that franchise ample return on its investment.

Posted by: HenryHog | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Gang,


I hope Haynesworth stomps on Napoleon's face. Way too much money for a player who is (1) fat, (2) injured, (3) lazy, (4) getting old, and (5) non needed position. Maybe he is the greatest ever (not), but this is football, not basketball, and 1 out of 53 is not getting 'Skins the Lombardi trophy.

Posted by: duh2mag | February 27, 2009 1:30 PM |

Wow, you could NOT be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful. Let's look at your 5 "points":
1) Fat enough to be the best defensive player in football I guess, sure he's over 300 lbs., but any decent DT is you moron
2) Injured? Well, then I guess he won't pass his physical so there's nothing to worry about... Look, the guy has missed a few games here or there, but he's no Shawn Springs. He hasn't missed any significant periods of time during his career so far, and his injury risk is probably just about the same as any other guy playing that position.
3) Lazy enough to be the best defensive player in football I guess (see #1)
4) I didn't realize 27 was "getting old". Actually, the guy is just entering his prime football-wise
5) Non-needed position? Wow, do you even watch the team? D-Line and O-Line were clearly our 2 biggest areas of need, what the hell are you talking about?

BOOM, roasted.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

in essense the haynesworth deal is really a 3 year deal worth 41 million... read between the line on the contract breakdown. the hall deal is really a 3 year 22 million dolloar deal... lost of upfront so if they faulter after 3 year the skins can cut ties!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan,

That's because the Steelers, Colts, and Patriots all had less cap space then the Skins.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

RITCA,

They are also much SMARTER than the Skins and have real front office people running the show.

Posted by: RHPa | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Jasno is about as much a Redskins Insider as Denny's is a 5-star restaurant.

Like I said before he got scooped on the Haynesworth signing by a guy from the Houston Chronicle whom I've never heard of.

And he stated on this blog and on WashPostLive over and over again that the skins would not be able to sign any free agent of consequence.

It just begs me to ask the question, what the hell does Jason do all day at Ashburn.

Posted by: Predator48 | February 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps we Skins fans all get lucky and this incredibly stupid way of doing business will work for one year. And perhaps we Skins fans will get extremely lucky and Haynewsorth will STEP ON SNYDER'S HEAD!

Posted by: am81 | February 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The reason the skins are addressing the DL in free agency is because the DE/DT in the draft would be a huge drop off from Haynesworth. IMO they think they can get one of the four great OT at number 13 instead of an average DE/DT. The OL 2009 class is deep. Vinny/Dan think they can get an OL in the draft that would be comparable to any OT free agent. They obviously didn't think they could do the same with corner or DL. They will pick OL, OL, LB, LB in the draft.

Posted by: patio100 | February 27, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If you can't win the Super Bowl, you might as well win the offseason free agency championship!

On a separate matter, what's with the fools who think that posting "first" means something?!?!?! That's the best you can come up with???

Posted by: cys868 | February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

redskinaddict,

Since you seem to know alot about being a GM, who would you say they should have signed to make the team better next year?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaCan Hater is at it again. Every year we hear about the Skins Salary cap and we always get the players we want. JLC makes it seem as though this team has no talent outside of Rock Cartwright.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'll get excited about the Redskins when Colt Brennan starts at QB.

Jason Campbell's completion percentage is awful. Colt Brennan holds the NCAA record for highest pass completion percentage at 70.4%. Brennan will take chances while Campbell is a robot. Brennan is a gamer while Campbell plays not to make mistakes. Brennan can move and scare defenses with his arm while Campbell reminds us all of Randell Cunningham without the speed.

Even Campbell's Soup won't hire Jason Campbell to sell soup.


Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 27, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

predictable and sad J Ca Ca, surprised it took you this long to bring out the hatchet.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Whoop-dee-doo, another big spending, over paying free agent period.

154 million for Haynesworth and Hall? Are the 'skins the 'yanks' of the NFL, or are they the Wizards?

With a common location (This area is CURSED by the sport gods, or something) and management, my bet is on the latter.

Abe Polin doesn't spend money wisely and neither does Snyder.

I wouldn't be surprised if this team doesn't win anymore than 6 to 8 games, AGAIN! Why? They haven't addressed the most inept part of their team: the offense.

So they sign Hall and Haynesworth to big contracts, okay, cool. I better see Hall in the slot on 3rd downs, and Haynesworth as the tackle eligible in the jumbo package - because unless they make the same type of splashes on offense (which they CAN'T) they will bottom out in every categorey except running - again.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 27, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Banks and King are the two biggest Skins haters.

And Im sure that ESPN will hate AH now that the Skins got him.

Im fantasizing about somehow trading down/up and having two picks in the top 30-40 in the draft, walking away with a starting RT and SLB.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Longtime Skins beat reporter, David Elfin, doesn't like the move either:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/27/an-unwise-investment/

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

whoever posted that Adam Schefter link and said "he didn't like it either" is way off-base.

Schefter actually did his job and simply reported the news like an unbiased journalisted should do, then he stated the obvious that expectations have now gone up.

He didn't cheap shot the organization and bring up necessary cuts in expenditures.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

You know, I have never posted on here before for multiple reasons, but this is the dumbest analysis I have read from JLC yet. Relating the signing to 45 office employees....that is just stupid. I would say AH is going to bring in a lot more money for the team than those 45 employees do...not to mention do more to give the team a chance to make the playoffs. Now, he might well be a bust, but a huge need was on the D-line, just like the O-line, and AH is potentially the best player at his position in the NFL.

Posted by: csplummer | February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Lots of blitzes don't mean lots of sacks. The Redskins blitzed a lot last year. A LOT. Fox said more than any other team on third and more than 4 yards. After I heard them say that I started watching closely, and sure enough, they blitzed a ton.

You might not remember it because for the most part the blitzes were not effective.

I'll see if I can dig up some stats on the web, if you've got some I'd be happy to see them!

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Buyer Beware:

Hey JLC.... Knock It Off!

I realize That It's your job to provide
your opinion, But for some strange reason
I get the impression that deep down your
hopeful that you are right.

Tell you what.... How about you letting
us dye hard skins fans enjoy this
moment. If only for one flipping day.

Maybe we are the champions of off season
dreams.

We live for this day. other than the draft
we have had years of disappointment, so
let us romance the possibilities and just
suppoert us.

If You Know How

Posted by: rhowze | February 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

dpc2003 -- Dave Butz was a terrific player and his game in the SB vs Denver was outstanding. Could have been MVP if not for the amazing quarter that Doug Williams had.

Butz is also one of 3 Redskins that is on the NFL all-decade team of the 1980's who is not in the HOF.

Considering 2/3 of the all decade players are HOF -- its amazing how 3 of the 5 Skins who were all-decade aren't in

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Flounder,

How much money do we have left under the cap? It appears you know how we're going to fit these o lineman in. Why didn't we sign any o lineman last offseason? "If there's a will there's a way."

Signing players this offseason with the idea of there not being a cap coming up is one of the dumber rationales I've heard in a long time. That just doesn't work. No intelligent business person would take a risk this great...then again we are talking about Danny and Vinny the ambiguously..

This whole "one player away debate" needs to recognize that yes one player can help you, but by signing this one player you're sacrificing at other spots.

Posted by: whoyawith | February 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

B I don't want to see JLC out of work. But I do think it maybe time for him to be assign to cover another team.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Paid $100,000,000 to still be 4th in your own division. Chumps.

Posted by: monsterjoe | February 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

if any other team other than the Skins had made this signing it would be lauded as a great move that will bolster the defense, how AH has turned a corner and gotten his career on track and will be a stalwalt for years to come.

yet the Skins sign the guy and ghosts from 8 years ago pop-up.

after the intial debacle of Prime Time, Mark Carrier, etc, the Skins FA signings haven't been that bad.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"I'll get excited about the Redskins when Colt Brennan starts at QB."

Get out of here Cowgirl fan.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | February 27, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Everyone can doubt Danny on ANYTHING they want, BUT you can't say when he wants someone he doesn't get him!

So let's watch all the hate spew out today.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 27, 2009 7:14 AM

No hate here, 4th...just disagree with his model for building the 'Skins. Plash hasn't worked in his decade of doing it, so I'm not expecting this to work either.

Hopeful, yes. Optimistic, no.

Posted by: 4-12 | February 27, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Such a move is not without risk - Fred Smoot, coming off a subpar season and soon to be 30, would start at cornerback.

from that Times article.

is this mook assuming that Rogers is gone also?

Hall, Rogers and Smoot for 2 positions right?

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Would anyone take our 3rd, 5th, and 6th round picks for a very low 1st/high 2nd?

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Knock knock.

Who's there?

What's Albert Haynesworth?

I don't know.

$100 million.

That's debatable.

Then let's debate it on...

Redskins Insider!

YEAH!


(I feel kinda funny.)

Posted by: freakzilla | February 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

ANyone who poos poos this deal is just a boobird......

The REDSKINS are not overpaying for Hall...and they are paying market value for Haynesworth.

Let's be honest...the addition of Haynesworth can completely transform the efficacy of our DL. With him next to Griffith and book-ended by Taylor & Carter and maybe adding a rookie through the draft...you can understand why people would get excited.

The OL is definitely the next target....and I hope Dockery resigns....he is an unexpected surprise. He would be STUPID to goto Detroit over the Skins.....

Posted by: goosedude | February 27, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"No intelligent business person would take a risk this great...then again we are talking about Danny and Vinny the ambiguously..

Posted by: whoyawith"

Actually, if you took the time to look at the Redskins salary cap situation, you wouldn't be posting such an ignorant comment.

Within 2 years, the Redskins free up greater than $50 million from the cap (relative to this year). Just after this year, all dead cap money (over $8 million) comes off the books, and Jason Taylor's contract will come off the books (another $8.5 million). Now consider that we just signed $154 million worth of contracts with only ~$12 million of cap space with which to work. Tell me what Snyder will do with $16.5 million next offseason.

It makes zero difference for the Redskins whether or not there's a uncapped season. They're prepared either way.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

after the intial debacle of Prime Time, Mark Carrier, etc, the Skins FA signings haven't been that bad.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

surely you jest......Arch, Lloydd, Barrow, Duckett....they've had their share of whiffs.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

jm, agreed, isn't there a soccer team to cover?

I'm going to withold judgement until I see what he does WHEN PLAYING FOOTBALL.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The reality of the deal is that it will be for 4 years. The money over that period of time will be no different than what Demarcus Ware will get. Bart Scott got 8 million a year for goodness sakes!

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth? Injured? Well, then I guess he won't pass his physical so there's nothing to worry about... Look, the guy has missed a few games here or there, but he's no Shawn Springs. He hasn't missed any significant periods of time during his career so far, and his injury risk is probably just about the same as any other guy playing that position.


BOOM, roasted.

Posted by: CPortisRun


Well -- Springs came here in 2004 and has played in 64 games. Since 2004, Haynesworth has played in 62 games.


SHAWN SPRINGS HAS MISSED FEWER GAMES DUE TO INJURY THAN ALBERT HAYNESWORTH


SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKED

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Would anyone take our 3rd, 5th, and 6th round picks for a very low 1st/high 2nd?

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

No.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Great ESPN article on how AH will be good for the skins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3939231

Posted by: BostonWarPath | February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knows our D Line is an issue...everyone knows we dont have the draft picks this year do solve the D Line issues, O Line issues, LB issues etc.

How would one go about fixing the D-Line/Team this year? We have very few Draftpicks to fill gaps....it leaves us with 2 options. One, sign a FA DT/player to fill a particular hole. Or options Two...simply do nothing and hope that our current players step up.

The choice is yours.

I'd love to see what JayELCee would rather us do to fix this team heading into the '09 season.

Posted by: Redskins2Win | February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

MY TAKE ON THIS REMAINS:

Kiss a*& agent for player calls snidely:

"Redskins dead cap morgue; you find them we sign them can I help you?"

"Yes I have an overpriced free agent with zero motivation but Pro Football Weekly says has a lot of potential. Are you interested?"

"Yes of course, we love our dead cap, we offer regular funerary services for the deceased daily. We give them lots of money so they can make whoopie with their honeys."

"Wonderful, and can you send your meatwa ... err flying hearse, Redskins 1 to pick him up?"

"Of course, our friendly attendants always cater to dead cappers and their immediate family and friends."

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

HEY !!!

KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH !

Posted by: slipperyrichard | February 27, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Kyle Vanden Bosch averaged .7 sacks a game with Haynesworth in the line up compared to .3 sacks in games without Haynesworth.

Haynesworth will make everyone around him better. The pass rush and I imagine that London Fletcher is a very happy man right now.

Posted by: dfbovey | February 27, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"Dockery's in Detroit (So Tempted to Call This Dr. Detroit)" Wit-tee. Wit-tee. Meester La Canfora. Dude. I said this to one of our estimable posters and I think it is particularly apt for you. Conan is looking for writers. You're wasting your talent on this blog. Go west, young man, go west. Lal-lah land beckons with open arms and a sultry smile.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | February 27, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan,

That's because the Steelers, Colts, and Patriots all had less cap space then the Skins.

Posted by: RITCA | February 27, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

my point was, if in the same position (salary cap, etc) as the skins, neither of those teams would have made this deal. cap or no cap, those teams build through the draft and with selected free agents. they dont make big splashes in free agency. they pick up guys like ryan clark...guys who can play and dont take away tons of cap space so that they cant' sign other guys who can play.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | February 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

what was the titan defense ranked last year does anyone know??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

How about we get Detroit's #20 and #33, and they get our

#13, and whatever other combo of our 3rd, 5th, or 6th they want.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Agree with 4-12. The Skins are entering their 11th season under Snyder's ownership and he has yet to prove his approach can succeed. Looking at the most successful franchises in recent years, the path to championships is through shrewd drafting, especially late round picks, complemented by sound free agent acquisitions. There's no embarrassment in copying someone else if their approach works!

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

What likely will happen is the the injury-prone, outof--condition Haynesworth will get injured early and not play a down for the team that yet again mortgaged its future for this defensive Messiah. I would not give up Shawn Springs for this guy. Yet again we see that loyalty is a nonissue with Snyder and Cerrato.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | February 27, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey,

I don't think anyone hear would argue that Dan Snyder doesn't want to win, I think the arguement here is that he just doesn't get how it is done. He's not afraid to spend money and that is good, the problem is he doesn't understand who to spend it on. Develop your own talent and reward your own talent when the time comes and that creates loyalty and the desire to success and earn the money. When you just give to someone else's talent and let your own equal talent walk that isn't good for motivating the players who currently make your roster when they see that when their contract is up it will be "Thanks and Good Luck" we're signing this other guys b/c he looks better on paper and he'll cost us more.

Posted by: jayandcat | February 27, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"I'd love to see what JayELCee would rather us do to fix this team heading into the '09 season. "

please don't ask J Ca Ca for actual analysis and thoughtful reasoning, it's beyond his realm of possibility.

if you want snarky, bitter, and low-brow then J Ca Ca is your man.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

+++I have no issue with JLC giving his views on things, but tying this contract to laying off 45 staff members is absurd. They two are not related. One is from the revenue generating side of the business (players, on field product), and one is from something that is merely a cost center. Perhaps JLC should learn a bit about running a business before commenting on the non-football side of things.

Posted by: docjohnson +++

Spoken like a typical trickle down republican economist. Leave it to one to call 45 people who dedicated their professional skills and a good hunk of their lives to Snyder's folly "merely a cost center."

Profit first types have plenty of lingo to separate out the damage their policies cause to all but the very rich, but in plain fact, of course the events are related.

45 people got fired. Two under-performing ingrates got vastly over-compensated to play a kids game (and perhaps stomp one other player's face or quit on their teammates, as they have before.)

Perhaps you ought to get a little humanity before ripping others who already have it.


Posted by: TheCork | February 27, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Releasing Shawn Springs leaves the defensive backfield open to big plays.

The signing of Hall only makes sense if you keep Shawn Springs. Now, the 1st round pick is almost guaranteed to be a cornerback. And they really desperately need that starting left tackle. A guard and a center/guard.

Signing Haynesworth does not address the more serious problems on the offensive line. We will have to hope that these will be addressed through the draft. If they are not I don't expect the Redskins to even finish 8-8 next year.

Snidely Owl will again look like the foolish GM that he truly is. Without Gibbs and company to reign him in ... here he is going hog-wild. What a frickin' idiot ... sigh ...

I fear that signing Haynesworth will be another Brandon Lloyd, another dead-capper.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course it's a gamble!!!

No guarantees in free agency (or the draft for that matter).

Haynesworth is the best free agent out there - a fact that everyone agrees with. So you put your money on the table and take your chances. That is why they play the games.


Posted by: Wemiss21 | February 27, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

redskinaddict,

Since you seem to know alot about being a GM, who would you say they should have signed to make the team better next year?

Posted by: Flounder21 | February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I acutally would have gone after Bart Scott, the 2 lineman from Pittsburgh and Green Bay, and tried to trade Rogers for more draft picks. In fact, if it is at all feasible, the Skins should try and move up in the draft to select the linebacker out of Wake Forest. He is a freak in the Shawn Merriman mold, who the Redskins need desperately to bolster the pass rush, because Andre Carter and Jason Taylor are not going to give us the pass rush that we need.

Posted by: RedskinAddict | February 27, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

zcezcest1 -- yeah, it's a shame but the 80's Redskins don't get the love from HOF voters.

Later in his career, Butz would have 3-4 games a year where he just dominated. The rest of the time, he played well, but the dominating games ensured that he was first on the board when the opponents game-planned the Redskins' D.

I expect Haynesworth will command the same attention early in the year: all the protection will slide to him automatically, and if you put LL or a backer in the A gap it's probably going to cause an audible to max protect.

Remember Dave's Carrier air conditioning commercial?

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

JLC, please tell us how either Jason Taylor or Lavar Arrington ever qualified as experiments?

Lavar was a draft pick who ran into injury trouble, and Jason Taylor was a "need" as you said yourself last year when Phillip Daniels went out for the season. By your logic, every player on a roster must be an experiment.

Posted by: Jahswim | February 27, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

From Skins.com

As the anchor of the Titans’ defensive line since 2002, Haynesworth has posted 271 tackles (199 solo) and 24 sacks in his career.

A total of 14.5 of his sacks have come the last two years, the highest total among defensive tackles in that span.

Last season, Haynesworth was a dominant figure on a Titans defense that was seventh overall and sixth against the run. He helped the Titans post the AFC’s best record last year.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | February 27, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Whether you love or hate these signings, they have been made and our defense is significantly altered as a result. Looking forward, if we can get Dock back to fix one of our guard spots, does it make more sense to take Brian Orakpo at 13 and drop JT55 back to OLB or try to trade up to snag Eugene Monroe in the top 10?

Posted by: hokiesmokie | February 27, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Well -- Springs came here in 2004 and has played in 64 games. Since 2004, Haynesworth has played in 62 games.


SHAWN SPRINGS HAS MISSED FEWER GAMES DUE TO INJURY THAN ALBERT HAYNESWORTH


SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKED

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 1:58 PM |


Oh, please. Do you want a cookie? Two problems with your argument. First, Springs plays in the secondary whereas Haynesworth plays the most physical position in the sport. Relatively, Haynesworth has been more healthy. Also, Springs is 34 this season, whereas Haynesworth is 27. Springs has been increasingly more injured as his career has progressed. So, while it may be convenient for you to go back all the way to 2004, lets look at a more relevant period than one that started when Springs was still in his 20s, such as the last 3 years. That will be more indicative of what to expect in the next few seasons. Springs has missed 14 games in the last 3 seasons. Haynesworth has missed 10 during that same period, and has been increasingly more healthy as his career has progressed. To argue that a 27 year old Haynesworth is more of an injury risk going forward than a 34 year old Springs is absolutely idiotic. But, to act so smug and confident about your ridiculous argument based on some stat you probably got during pillow talk with JLC? Well, that's just ridonculous.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think anyone hear would argue that Dan Snyder doesn't want to win, I think the arguement here is that he just doesn't get how it is done."

Snidely Owl is a stupid kid from Rockville that plays Madden 2XXX and uses that as a model for building a real NFL franchise. The guy is a bonafide knuckle head. His "igor" Vinnie the "yes man" is a ridiculous buffoon.

This franchise will not finish over .500 next year thanks to our fearless owner-GM.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"the Skins should try and move up in the draft to select the linebacker out of Wake Forest. He is a freak in the Shawn Merriman mold"

Wow....first of all no they shouldn't for countless reasons. Curry is 6 feet tall 240 pounds. Merriman is 6'4, and in the 270 range.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"Spoken like a typical trickle down republican economist. Leave it to one to call 45 people who dedicated their professional skills and a good hunk of their lives to Snyder's folly "merely a cost center."

oh man I feel sorry for you, are you one of those tree-hugging, ACLU types who takes vegan to a new level and won't eat anything that casts a shadow?

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Hokie, I would move up to take Monroe, I think he's going to be a great OT.

I would not take Orakpo, if you're going to get a DE, go later in the draft and get a tweener to play outside of Haynesworth.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, please. Do you want a cookie? Two problems with your argument. First, Springs plays in the secondary whereas Haynesworth plays the most physical position in the sport.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009"

You're an idiot. They also run a heck of a lot more. They make MORE TACKLES and MANY are open field tackles of guys larger than they are. And they are a lot smaller. You are an idiot dude.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I just knew Corksucker would pop out from his fetid basement apartment to defend JLC's sophomoric post tying the layoffs of administrative personnel to the Albert Haynesworth signing.

Hey, maybe Cork IS JLC!

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

+++The Skins are entering their 11th season under Snyder's ownership and he has yet to prove his approach can succeed. Looking at the most successful franchises in recent years, the path to championships is through shrewd drafting, especially late round picks, complemented by sound free agent acquisitions. There's no embarrassment in copying someone else if their approach works!

Posted by: hokiepokster92 +++

Spot on. Get ready for a hate-fest from the Shadenfreuders and ADD victims who inhabit RI and see the additions of two people as THE answer for everything.

The conveniently forget hte Kitty is dry and hte team still desperately needs:

Offensive Right tackle.
Offensive Left guard.
Offensive Center.

At least TWO linebackers.
Left DE
Another corner
Punter
Placekicker.
Money to resign campbell or get a new QB
Backup RB
Punt-returner.
Holder


Posted by: TheCork | February 27, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are lining up a visit with free agent DL Chris Canty, presumably on Saturday.

Likely viewed as an interior tackle by New York, Canty can't be happy about being burned by the Giants' rivals.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

What likely will happen is the the injury-prone, outof--condition Haynesworth will get injured early and not play a down for the team that yet again mortgaged its future for this defensive Messiah. I would not give up Shawn Springs for this guy. Yet again we see that loyalty is a nonissue with Snyder and Cerrato.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | February 27, 2009 2:04 PM |

Springs is Mr. Loyal now? He is the only guy who has refused to restructure his deal to help the team in seasons past, he has been the only one who has consistently refused to show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, and he will most likely go to Dallas now. I'm sorry, how do you define loyalty? Showing up only when you have to for a multi-million dollar salary? Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling. Based on your logic, we have been "disloyal" to every player we have ever cut that has spent any significant time on the team. Springs can always re-sign with us at a salary more reflective of his market value if he's really as "loyal" as you claim.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"Leave it to one to call 45 people who dedicated their professional skills and a good hunk of their lives"

How could you possibly, in any way shape or form, know this to be true?? You have NO IDEA what jobs were cut, and you have no idea how much of their lives they dedicated to Snyder. You're quite loathesome there corky....don't let facts get in the way of your agenda....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

the Skins FA signings haven't been that bad.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

surely you jest......Arch, Lloydd, Barrow, Duckett....they've had their share of whiffs.

Posted by: zjfr2 | February 27, 2009 1:57 PM

Neither Lloyd nor Duckett were free agent signings. We traded for both of them. Whiffs? Yes, but not free agency whiffs.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. I wonder what Portis is thinking about this? Maybe he's sitting there thinking "Huh? I thought I was the star of the team. I need a good O'Line to run behind and these numnuts go out and get a defensive tackle!!! For 100 mil!!! Maybe its time to get out of dodge!!!"

Posted by: elkiii_2008 | February 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

JLC, aka "The Len Pasquarelli of the WaPo," is in common form today. Tying these signings to "45 layoffs" in the front office? C'mon. It's all a big conspiracy, right JLC? Yes, the evil SnyderCerrato Bot took money from the mouths of babes - or 45 employees - and fed it to the gaping Jabbba Maw of AHaynesworth. J*sus, we get it already, JLC.

And yet, I nonetheless believe this signing s*cks. Haynesworth will not earn his contract here. He joins a mediocre team where the defense will not revolve around him and he will play...mediocre. Write it down in your diary.

The good Dale is trapped in the Lodge, and he can't leave.

I keep waiting for that gum I like to come back in style with the 'Skins. And it is just not going to happen anytime soon.

Doppleganger!

Posted by: hithere1 | February 27, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

The earth just shook after that jumbo Albert Haynesworth deal.

And it was not the dollars or the player or his new team, the Washington Redskins, that rumbled.

No, that was every NFC East center and guard that must block this beast for two games a year, every year into the near future.

Posted by: slimbo-Rice | February 27, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Periculum....Are you freakin kidding me? The trenches of the DL doesn't compare to a CB. To compare the punishment of a DT to a DB is foolish. I never want to hear about is Springs missing a month becuase he was kicked in the shin ever again.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"Hokie, I would move up to take Monroe, I think he's going to be a great OT.

I would not take Orakpo, if you're going to get a DE, go later in the draft and get a tweener to play outside of Haynesworth.

Posted by: dpc2003 | February 27, 2009"

I think its going to be a cornerback. Or Orakpo. Snidely appears to have gone back to his old ways. I expect that Zorn will be coaching a 2 win team before long.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Cork,
Name one poster up here who has these two signings alone putting the team in the superbowl. From my reading of the posts people either hate the deals, or like them but agree that there are still other wholes to fill. And then there are those who are having an aneurysm over JLC’s latest comments……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 27, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

At least i have the CAPS to cheer for.

Posted by: Devo2 | February 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Amen to that. Maybe Leonsis can by the Skins since he seems to know HOW to run a professional sports franchise. Skins are just offseason champions again. I'm not sure this will translate to wins next season, particularly if you have an offense that can't run, can't throw the ball and can't block.

Posted by: CDon | February 27, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Neither Lloyd nor Duckett were free agent signings. We traded for both of them. Whiffs? Yes, but not free agency whiffs.

Posted by: talent_evaluator
______________________

Not only that, but I hope people can see by watching Haynesworth play that Lloyd, Archuleta and Duckett weren't anywhere near as capable at their positions. Stubblefield would be a more accurate comparison if you want to be negative. But even then, Stubblefield wasn't the dominant player on that team... Bryant was the dominant player on the 49er's defensive line and Stubby reaped the benefits. Hayensworth has more in common talent wise to Bryant than Stubby. Haynesworth is a dominant player who will garner a lot of attention.

Posted by: dfbovey | February 27, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"To compare the punishment of a DT to a DB is foolish. I never want to hear about is Springs missing a month becuase he was kicked in the shin ever again.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009"

Yeah? Watch how many downs they go out of the game if the DL types have to haul their huge ass bodies down the field to make a play or to return a fumble. They are gasping into those oxygen masks.

The best athletes on defense, by far, are the cornerbacks. Safeties like Sean Taylor, guys like DeMarcus Ware, or the Ravens NT are very rare exceptions of good athletes outside the defensive backfield. Dexter Manley was another.
The guy was a special teams headhunter before he started. They had to put 2 blockers on him on the kickoffs and punts.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

all you guys calling out positions that need upgrading - how many teams in the NFL have multiple holes that aren't filled to optimal levels? No team ever fills all their needs.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"Stubblefield would be a more accurate comparison if you want to be negative.
Posted by: dfbovey | February 27, 2009"

I disagree and violently agree with TE on this one. This smells like another Lloyd.

Frickin' pencil-neck geek. How in the heck did you get to be owner of this team?

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm lost as to the reference to laying off 45 workers and this signing? Chairman Bernanket out there can perhaps explain it?

Anyway, yeah it's a gamble. I'm not sure given the situation they're in that it's worth it. But that remains to be seen after they get finished with other signings and trades.

I'd rather they got a couple of O-lineman first and then, if possible, get Haynesworth. But he could have been gone by then.

Steps 2-10 remain to be seen.

Posted by: SteveMG | February 27, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"At least i have the CAPS to cheer for.

Posted by: Devo2 | February 27, 2009"

I am going back to the JBow watch on the Nats side. I think there is hope there.

I'll wait until I see OL either in the draft or in FA that have talent, are young and aren't injured before I change my opinion about where this team is headed.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Must of the negative comments found here over the last couple of years has been centered around the Redskins pressure on the quarterback. This move makes each defensive play similar to a blitz because Haynesworth can always occupy two players, sometimes three. This will make it much easier on the DE's because he will collapse the pocket up the middle forcing the QB toward the rushing ends. Db coverage will be better because they won't have to cover as long. Field position will improve for the offense and turn overs will increase. This is a huge upgrade to the defense and the team as a whole. He's the most important addition to this team that I can remember in my 40 years of fandom. The Redskins have gone after good players in the past but when have they signed the best player at his position. I don't think it's debateable that he's the best DT in the NFL. He may be the best defensive player in the NFL.

Posted by: kcjdlj1 | February 27, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This deal makes no sense if the offensive line isn't bolstered.

Portis made it publicly clear last year the Redskins needed help on the o-line - and he would know best. I wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins are forced to grab a RB with #13.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | February 27, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"all you guys calling out positions that need upgrading - how many teams in the NFL have multiple holes that aren't filled to optimal levels? No team ever fills all their needs.

Posted by: IHateJLC | February 27, 2009"

The entire OL is a gigantic, aging hole. Everyone is complaining about Spring's age? But the guy performs at a high level when he is out there. The same cannot be said for our OL. Terrel Suggs said it best, "You guys were depleted".

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, please. Do you want a cookie? Two problems with your argument. First, Springs plays in the secondary whereas Haynesworth plays the most physical position in the sport.

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009"

You're an idiot. They also run a heck of a lot more. They make MORE TACKLES and MANY are open field tackles of guys larger than they are. And they are a lot smaller. You are an idiot dude.


Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:13 PM |


You're joking, right? When a 5'8" 170 lb guy like Darrell Green can play 20 years in the league at the position and only suffer 1 major injury, you want to argue that it's more physical than an in-the-trenches position that 300+ lb guys play and routinely get injured? Wow, and you think I'M the idiot. Hilarious

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

CPortisRun

I picked 2004 since that's when Springs became a Redskin. Since people up here have discussed Springs health consistently, it makes a very fair comparison. In the last 2 years, Albert has played in 2 more games than Springs. 2. TWO. twooooooooo

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 27, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"To compare the punishment of a DT to a DB is foolish. I never want to hear about is Springs missing a month becuase he was kicked in the shin ever again.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009"

Yeah? Watch how many downs they go out of the game if the DL types have to haul their huge ass bodies down the field to make a play or to return a fumble. They are gasping into those oxygen masks.

The best athletes on defense, by far, are the cornerbacks. Safeties like Sean Taylor, guys like DeMarcus Ware, or the Ravens NT are very rare exceptions of good athletes outside the defensive backfield. Dexter Manley was another.
The guy was a special teams headhunter before he started. They had to put 2 blockers on him on the kickoffs and punts.

Posted by: periculum | February 27, 2009 2:27 PM |

Oh, so you're changing the premise of your argument now? You said DB was more physical than DL, not what position commanded "better athletes". I commend you on your strategy though, I suppose, by changing your argument to one you might actually have a chance of winning. Of course, if you're arguing that you'd rather have Springs because he's the better athlete, then you really are an idiot. So, based on your logic, we should have signed all of the world's best decathletes and cut every single lineman on both sides of the ball. Hey, did JLC visit you on Fathers' Day last year?

Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight: A secondary that features Rogers, Hall, Smoot, Landry, Horton and Moore is going to be worse because Springs - an aging player who missed half the season - is gone?

I think it's obvious there are some people on RI who WANT the team to fail, even to the extent of making fantastical posts that have no basis in reality.

Perhaps Freud could explain it.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | February 27, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaCan Hater is at it again. Every year we hear about the Skins Salary cap and we always get the players we want. JLC makes it seem as though this team has no talent outside of Rock Cartwright.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse


i don't know, J-LA makes sense with this article. Sounds like you're the one who bashes for no reason

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 27, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

M-A-U-A-L-U-G-A

Anyone who watches Redskins football closely knows that Fred Davis is the future star of this team... we need to draft USC players and get a winning attitude in the locker room; D Hall and A Haynesworth have NOT won at every level they have played- in fact, they have been on arguebly underachieving teams in college (U Tenn recently and V Tech 3-4 yrs ago) and the pros (Titans- playoff disaster!) We need winners not BIG names from losing teams.

Posted by: be7123 | February 27, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon doesn't blast this move but he doesn't praise it either. He presents both sides of the argument well:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701756.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I disagree and violently agree with TE on this one. This smells like another Lloyd.

Posted by: periculum
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I still haven't seen a single rational attempt at justifying the comparisons.

Posted by: dfbovey | February 27, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"Perhaps he can, but the supporting cast around him won't be what it was in Tennessee."

He's right. It will be better.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Really? Break that down for us.

Posted by: virtueandvice | February 27, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse


"Perhaps he can, but the supporting cast around him won't be what it was in Tennessee."

He's right. It will be better.

Posted by: psps23 | February 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Really? Break that down for us.

Posted by: virtueandvice | February 27, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Position by position comoparison, the Skins win at least 7 of them.

Posted by: dcwun | February 27, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Schlefter didnt love the move either:

Yea this guys thoughts should be valued..He didn't think Monk belonged in the HOF either...Get real

Posted by: Dkessler1 | February 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Someone may have said it already but Dana Stubblefield was signed before the 1998 season. Snyder didn't buy the team until 1999 so while you can compare the two DTs as FAs, you can't blame Stubby on Snyder.

Posted by: countystyle | February 27, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

haven't read the hundreds of posts before me so apologies if it is redundant. but what bothers me most about this is that the skins don't seem to appreciate the importance of effort. albert haynesworth played really hard in tennessee with the hopes of landing a huge contract. not only did he get that contract, he got it for 7 years. this is the last contract he will ever have to sign. he is set for life. given the questions about his character that are already out there, what expectation is there that haynesworth will even perform at the level he has in the last couple of years, let alone how well he would need to perform to justify 100 million freaking dollars...

Posted by: cavemandave | February 27, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

you people who are sitting here trashing JLC are forgetting the legacy of the Danny. Spend spend spend, but nothing but mediocre results. This team needs to be blown up and a rebuild needs to happen. The Danny and his little puppet named Vinny are under the assumption that we're always one player away. This is a mediocre team with a corrupt front office structure. Something needs to be done to get this team to win a Super Bowl sometime this century, and Albert Haynesworth wont do it.

Posted by: DER27 | February 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse


you people who are sitting here trashing JLC are forgetting the legacy of the Danny. Spend spend spend, but nothing but mediocre results. This team needs to be blown up and a rebuild needs to happen. The Danny and his little puppet named Vinny are under the assumption that we're always one player away. This is a mediocre team with a corrupt front office structure. Something needs to be done to get this team to win a Super Bowl sometime this century, and Albert Haynesworth wont do it.

Posted by: DER27 | February 27, 2009 4:01 PM

Spot on DER27!

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Someone may have said it already but Dana Stubblefield was signed before the 1998 season. Snyder didn't buy the team until 1999 so while you can compare the two DTs as FAs, you can't blame Stubby on Snyder.

Posted by: countystyle | February 27, 2009 3:45 PM

You are correct countystyle. But at the time Stubblefield was coming off an MVP season in '97 when he recorded 15 sacks. Stubby is a reminder that this franchise thought it had signed a can't miss standout player but ended up with one who never came close to matching his peak performance level.

Considering Haynesworth's past performance inconsistencies (evaluators claim that he does not go all out on every play) and injury history (he's only played 16 games once in 7 seasons), this is a risky signing IMHO.

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | February 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Taking Raji in the draft would have been a much, much better choice.

Haynesworthless averaged 2.5 sacks per game in the years before his final contract year. He will be a huge bust.

We should have brought in 5 or 6 OL FAs and see who could deliver.

All that said, I would love to eat my words next January; but I don't think I will. The Danny and Vinny have given us no reason to have faith in their big splash signings.

Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if somehow we could dig up Jack Kent Cooke and send him to that island on "Lost" so he could come back to life?

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Posted by: oldnova | February 27, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Little boy Jason is jealous, he totally missed out on the scoop....saying just hours earlier that the skins would not pursue AH. This guy was the BEST DT in football!!

Face it little man, you get news from other news sources. The Redskins give it to others first and it makes you mad.

Posted by: nonon | February 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you could NOT be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful. Let's look at your 5 "points":
1) Fat enough to be the best defensive player in football I guess, sure he's over 300 lbs., but any decent DT is you moron
2) Injured? Well, then I guess he won't pass his physical so there's nothing to worry about... Look, the guy has missed a few games here or there, but he's no Shawn Springs. He hasn't missed any significant periods of time during his career so far, and his injury risk is probably just about the same as any other guy playing that position.
3) Lazy enough to be the best defensive player in football I guess (see #1)
4) I didn't realize 27 was "getting old". Actually, the guy is just entering his prime football-wise
5) Non-needed position? Wow, do you even watch the team? D-Line and O-Line were clearly our 2 biggest areas of need, what the hell are you talking about?
BOOM, roasted.
Posted by: CPortisRun | February 27, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse
...........................................

Hey Donkey Dik,

Why don't you get you face out of Snyder's a-hole. The NFL's average age of retirement is 30. Haynesworth has NEVER played a full 16 since his rookie season, when he did not start. He also has problems with anger and the law. Have you gone 103 mph in a 70? Wrecked your Ferrari?

Oh, and CPortis run? That is your tag line. Why didn't you chose SAlexander run? Both are washed up....but Portis is a diva bee-itch who is injured as often as Haynesworth. You don't win without depth. Drink the Kool-Aid all you want. When Vinny screws up the draft (4 picks) and the offense can't score over 10, I will see you again at under 500.

Oh, and #1 player in football. With TWO Pro Bowls and no championships? Move out of your mom's basement and get the naked Vinny poster off your wall.

Posted by: duh2mag | February 27, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

jeez some of yall eXtreme people are just so over the top (and full of it).

how does the haynesworth signing relate to the firing of 45 employees? that's easy, cash flow. huge signing bonus equals less cash equals the need to cut buck on other employees.

we did need some d-line help also so it's a definite upgrade but dont like the idea of tying that much cash up in a dingle player who wont bring either the requisite increase in income to the team or be the final piece. still need bigtime o-line help. if that can still be accomplished then it's a good signing. regardless i still have big daddy/stubby vibes.

fool me once and all that. this isnt going to revive the flagging support by itself. let's go caps.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | February 27, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs did a wonderful job of putting together a team that had good chemistry and stand up guys. Making the playoffs twice in his four years. That's twice as many times as all the years between his tenures provided. Now I realize he didn't finish the job but he did leave the team in a much better position than he found it. The signings of Hall and Haynesworth upgrade the talent and youth of our defense but they both have sketchy pasts in their old organizations. I hope they stay in line, buy into the system and fulfill their promise. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Posted by: atari1317 | February 27, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I doubt Cindy or anyone at the Post will do anything about this, but the Redskin Insider has turned into a complete joke. This is more about the writer then it is about the content or the team. Every post either rips Jason or defends him.

I understand stating your opinions but his opinions are SO stale and redundant that its time to change the messenger. He never owns up to mistakes yet critisizes constantly the team. Hell, he's even ripping them for moves that he deemed great, such as J. Taylor.

It's time for a change at the Post but I just don't think they see it because the blog gets hits and as Stein said the other day, It' all about hits!

Posted by: 6-2StackMonster | February 27, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

sportsguru: "Jason Campbell is not intelligent enough to read defenses in the red zone."

I can't fathom the reasoning here. There's only twenty yards of field and ten of end zone to deal with. He's not Peyton Manning; he doesn't call the play. He runs the play the way it's designed, or calls an audible (hardly ever) or he takes a time out.

Exactly what sort of intelligence is required? He's practiced it a zillion times.

If the pass isn't completed, it's not because the QB is dumb.

If intelligence was the main requirement, do you think Terry Bradshaw would have won 4 Super Bowls?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 27, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Okay...there is only one question is far as I am concerned. Are the Redskins a better team with Haynsworth or not? Every other team in the league wanted him. Danny boy pulled the trigger...now let's fill the holes in the offensive line and get into next season

Posted by: mikehauter | February 27, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Hip Hip Hooray for Mr. Snyder!! Now PLEASE SIGN SOME HOGS !!!!!!!

Posted by: cherrywatts42 | February 27, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS JUST SIGNED DOCKERY TO A 5 YR 27 MIL CONTRACT. EVEN I HAVE BETTER SOURCES THAN YOU J-LA. LTES SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO CATCH THIS ONE

Posted by: Chrisphilippsen | February 27, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with some of you Redskin fans. If there were two more imortant positions to fill I'd like to hear them. This isn't Bruce Smith, and someone's leftover(can't think of anyone in particular,)guard, but two excellent players in their prime, and at the two positions we neede the most. I think they have actually turned next season into a possible winner. Are you people blind, or just like to argue for the sake of it.

Posted by: coastallp74 | February 28, 2009 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Dear J La,

You are no Mark Maske pal. Enough with your critiques, and your negative trash. It is always a gamble when it come to free agency, regardless of the amount of money spent. And we weren't the only team willing to pay this amount.

Posted by: beigebandit | February 28, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Their biggest need was to cut Campbell and make a run at a quality QB. Jason Campbell is not intelligent enough to read defenses in the red zone.. check offs don't work from the 10 yard line. Until we address the hole at QB, we will never be more than an average football team.

Posted by: Sports_Guru
Give Campbell a decent O line, a legitimate 2 receiver, and more intelligent play calling, then get back to me.

Posted by: kenboy1 | February 28, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

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