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A Little Review

Okay, JC is starting Thurs. but probably not playing that much and Portis could end up getting a few carries too.

We'll see how that goes in both cases. If Portis truly could have played in the last few preseason games, as Gibbs said he could, then they might as well get him some work, 'cause with the season getting close they need to crank him up. Only 3 real practices left before Sept. 9.

Big Joe getting cut has been lingering for a while - think I blogged about it well before the start of camp- but to his credit he looked healhty and active this camp. I thought if they keep 9 guys he'd have a shot, but even with Joe looking refreshed, they knew it was time to bleed some kids there, and Golston, Montgomery, Wilson and Alexander could likely all make this team (obviously Golston and Montgomery will). Joe would have had to have an truly outstanding camp to make the team, and given his injury history I can see why they would look at other guys.

It stinks on a lot of levels, but that's the business. It's very cruel, especially this time of year.

It's about time they went with more kids there and longterm it's the right move. From a chemistry standpoint, losing Lemar and Salave'a in the span of the week is a big blow to the locker room, but this is a team that was ranked 31st a year ago on D, so that's going to happen.

It's one where your heart says keep him around, but the mind tells you something else. Overall, I like what the Skins are doing on D. Nine months ago they looked old, but now you see Landry, Taylor, Carlos, Rocky, Golston, Montgomery and even a kid like Wilson - who could fill that Chris Clemons role from a few years ago - and it bodes well for the future.

One other thing. It's kind of late in the game, but don't rule out the Skins showing some interest in WR Doug Gabriel who was cut by Oakland this week. Right now they really only have 4 WRs worth keeping, and that's not a bad way to go (no sense keeping a 5th just because), but Gabriel has some size has done some nice things and I heard that the Skins and Raiders spoke about a possible trade this summer before the Redskins ended up bringing in Pinkston and bunch of other longshots.

No contact between Gabriel and the Skins as of today, I hear, but if at some point they need another WR - next week or during the regular season - he's a name to watch.

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 28, 2007; 5:40 PM ET
 
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Comments

Thirst!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

1st

Posted by: redheadskin | August 28, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Stunningly positive post by Jasno!

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Run Portis Run.

Posted by: 35332 | August 28, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I love you Big Joe!!! (Sobbing)

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Stumptown Chris -- where are you?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I guess I am the 1 guy on earth who did not like saliva.

Posted by: 35332 | August 28, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Overall, I like what the Skins are doing on D. Nine

Picking myself up off the floor. Something positive for JLC. LMGO we joke because we love.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

FIRST!

Posted by: I can't believe I am | August 28, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Gabriel? Gabriel? Jasno, you're back to your old ways. Get your typing right man... here let me help you G-A-R-D-N-E-R.

Posted by: 5th WR | August 28, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Jasno outstanding day of threads! Really coking us hamsters up.

I'm hoping the coaching staff is using all the barrel bottom predictions to stoke the fires.

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Unbelieveable that Pinkstno didn't make the squda. I always liked his work ethci, he was tough ovre the middle too. Just shows you what happens when Dan Snydre is rnuning the team, he si just dumb. Thakn you for the blgo Jasno.

Posted by: Walt Poole | August 28, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Last! Is it possible??? Yes!!!!

Posted by: Last Man Standing | August 28, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

i like the new Joe Gibbs well more like Gibbs 1.0 no more favoring old players and cutting veterns last 3years i dont remember them cutting vets.

Posted by: Eze | August 28, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Unbelieveable that Pinkstno didn't make the squda. I always liked his work ethci, he was tough ovre the middle too. Just shows you what happens when Dan Snydre is rnuning the team, he si just dumb. Thakn you for the blgo Jasno.

Posted by: Walt Poole | August 28, 2007 06:12 PM

You'd rather have Stinkston over a 1st rounder like Rod "I am excited to be a Skins again" Gardner? That's absurd.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

It's really childish and annoying, when people feel the need to say first, second, etc like it's a race...Then they don't even leave a comment...you win nothing people my god!!!

Get a life!

Posted by: You Guys Are Lame | August 28, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

no

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

This is not about football. Skip if you like. This is really sad.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/28/green.update/index.html

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Janso's take on Big Joe...is my take on Big Joe...

We picked his career up off the scrap heap so he can't complain to loudly...

JC playing.....ugh.....no injuries.....

Can we dial up another electrical storm????

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

From the Craig police report (so many good things):

Craig stated that:

"He has a wide stance when going to the bathroom and that his foot may have touched mine." (officer)

Fact really really really is stranger than fiction.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

It's really childish and annoying, when people feel the need to say first, second, etc like it's a race...Then they don't even leave a comment...you win nothing people my god!!!

Get a life!

Posted by: You Guys Are Lame | August 28, 2007 06:15 PM

Coz, your comment is so much more interesting.

Keep on counting...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

oops last one was me

Glad to hear CP is going to take a few runs Thursday. Just tell him not to run down field and tackle anyone.

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 6:19 PM | Report abuse

jm220, thanks for the spoiler warning.

Sad story indeed.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Doug Gabriel did something for a little while in New England, didn't he? Still, if every team needs to shed 18 dudes (minus exemptions), maybe other options await. Seems like we have enough WRs for Week 1, so the only reason to even invite Gabriel in for a tryout (really? the RAIDERS cut him?) would be if the Skins cut 19 guys.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Guess Walt Poole missed that play when Stinkston quit on a ball being scared in the Sunday nighter against us a few years back.

Doug Gabriel played for the Raiders and was traded to the Pats at the beginning of last season. Was released in December and back to Oakland where he couldn't latch on again. Not sure what to make of all that except our quest to find some suitable compliments to Santana are consisting of scrap heap players. Step up #85.

Posted by: cdubb | August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice info JLa, thanks.

Posted by: Skinz | August 28, 2007 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Glad to hear CP is going to take a few runs Thursday. Just tell him not to run down field and tackle anyone.

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 06:19 PM

Looking forward to it. Let's see if he really deserved the LT treatment that he got from the Skins. I betting no, but hoping yes.

Posted by: Stop with the KhulAid | August 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Oopss. Sorry for the downer post. As you can tell not really liking CP's preseason attitude.

Like I've been saying... I would be happy to know I'm wrong.

Posted by: Stop with KA | August 28, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I still say that the best (maybe only) reason to get Portis on the field is to block out the backfield. It will get his mind back into game speed. He won't have to cut (much) and aggravate the tendon (I hope), and he is a great blocking back. Skins might actually be able to put up some yards btwn the tackles, e.g., in Betts' hands. Might also be good practice for Betts, who has not had much practice needing to hang onto the ball.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

ROFL, Not quite sure how cutting Big Joe is exactly "cruel", let alone "very cruel".

It's not like the 'Skins are entering him in a dog fight or forcing him to watch reality television or something.

Did they force him to walk across burning coals and broken glass as he left? Was there a bull whip or cattle prod used or something?

That wild-eyed Cerrato is known for that stuff, you know. Since way back when he was employed by Prince Humperdink.

"Inconceivable!" I know.


Posted by: Mike C | August 28, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Via redskins.com - guess this puts a definite answer on what CP thinks of preseason as if we didn't already know....

Meantime, Portis's availability for the Redskins-Jaguars preseason game remains a game-time decision.

Portis said after practice that he was able to do all the work, but he also joked that he might deem himself 98 percent healthy so that he doesn't have to play against Jacksonville.

Posted by: cdubb | August 28, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Sportsnet just reported that everyone practiced today......JC, Portis (Sportsnet showed him catching a ball and running and he looked fine)....Samuels, Kendall and Marcus Washington.

Williams said it was really hard to cut Big Joe as he is very close to him but that the younger guys just beat him out. Williams said Salavea is also close to his own kids and that it was difficult to tell them last night.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances of bringing Big Joe back do we think?

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Can I say that Chad Johnson is my favorite non Skins player? He knows how to have fun and be silly. I love this kid.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, this was the 75 man cut ... the harder cuts are the ones btwn 53-75.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

From the team perspective the next cuts will be harder. They will be releasing some young guys who have real potential. Potential other teams aren't going to pass up if Jason's sources speak truly.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Stop. All this trash talk about Ladell Betts being oh so good and how Portis is lollygagging is too much for me to take. First off, I like Ladell too but have you seen him block? Be serious guys. He's a nice backup. But he aint Clinton. Portis blocks like a beast. Portis is faster and can change directions. You know it. I know it. And Ladell knows it. That's why he resigned with the Skins for less money. Unless Portis gets hurt he gets to make millions for 5-10 carries per game. Nice deal. I would have taken that too.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

My post got eaten alive!

Would we bring Big Joe back only in case of serious injury?

Posted by: sfskin | August 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot....Williams said they cut Big Joe now so he would have the opportunity to sign with another team.

I will miss you, Big Joe!

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Via redskins.com - guess this puts a definite answer on what CP thinks of preseason as if we didn't already know....

Meantime, Portis's availability for the Redskins-Jaguars preseason game remains a game-time decision.

Portis said after practice that he was able to do all the work, but he also joked that he might deem himself 98 percent healthy so that he doesn't have to play against Jacksonville.

Posted by: cdubb | August 28, 2007 06:37 PM

Thanks for reminding me why exactly I am not liking CP right now.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

That's why he resigned with the Skins for less money. Unless Portis gets hurt he gets to make millions for 5-10 carries per game. Nice deal. I would have taken that too.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 06:50 PM

When you said carry, you meant kneel down right? Coz' I haven't seen Betts break a tackle all preseason long.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 6:54 PM | Report abuse

As I said. I like Ladell. He's not bad. So I'm not going to dog him. But he Aint No Elite Running Back

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

'Sween I agree with you CP is an enthusiastic blocker. However, I don't know how that would help Betts run the football since they are usually not used in the same play together.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 6:56 PM | Report abuse

JM220 - Man. That's all I got to say. Sad. We (as in America in whole) forgot about them. Crazy.

Posted by: 4th | August 28, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

4th it just made me cry brother.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I like CP but have some concerns with his preseason shabingus. Never been, Never will be a Ladell fan. Do you know if we are keeping a 3rd running back? I liked how mason performed against the 2nd-6th stringers of the opponents. I am curious to see how he will do against the first teamers.

Tell me if I am drinking KA by posting this.

Posted by: Stop with KA | August 28, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Stop, agreed, but if the Skins actually tried to balance the pass v. rush game, i.e., even TRY to run the ball, then Betts would have to get more carries. Anytime Portis is in there, the D has to think rush (er ... as I'm typing this, I'm seeing the flaw in my logic, but bear with me for a second), which means ... actually, never mind.

I probably just should have said that Betts needs to get as much game time practice as Portis b/c the Skins have delivered NOTHING in the preseason in rushing yards.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

dcsween,
Your post speaks volumes and yet you said nothing....amazing, absolutely perdiculous.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

CP said he practiced today in pads and did not take any shortcuts. He also said if Gibbs wants him to play on Saturday night, he will play.

CP also had BBQ catered to the Park today for all his teammates.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

'Sween maybe we get to see some 2-back formations. With CP providing some key blocking for Betts for a big... significant... moderate... decent... okay gain. It's a 7 hundred page play book, it must be there somewhere.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with them being careful with Ladell in preseason. With Portis possibly hurt (he may have been faking), if Ladell gets hurt during preseason the Skins would be in a lot of trouble. We would be looking at a TJ Duckett situation. We don't want to visit that again.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

KA...Don't do it man. You have your best back blocking for your second best back? In preseason. NFW.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins will deal Portis and Betts next year and then make a move to get me in the draft. Super Bowl in my first year baby!!!

Posted by: Darren McFadden | August 28, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Great post thanks for the info!!!

Posted by: steve | August 28, 2007 7:13 PM | Report abuse

PSon (pardon the shortcut), I am not sure that they were being careful with Ladell. I think they wanted to run, but simply could not. Hopefully, this is more of the OLine not being healthy than Ladell sucking. I guess we'll find out for real once Kendall starts jiving with the starters and Samuels returns.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

KA...Don't do it man. You have your best back blocking for your second best back? In preseason. NFW.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 28, 2007 07:13 PM

Ooops, I should have quantified that, I didn't mean in preseason...

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Alright guys, I am outta here to get some dinner and drink some KA. It's been fun.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I understand holding back Portis. He's either hurt ... or just pissed off from last season and not worth the risk this season. What I don't understand is holding back Betts.

Stumped, you'll notice I stopped before I got to periculated. The better part of valor would have been to self-loseable type that, but I screwed up on mixing Betts' stuff with Portis' stuff. You gotta be careful when you dysmix stuff.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The running back position is probably one spot we can worry about the least. I don't care if Portis ever takes a snap again in the preseason if he brings it like he has every Sunday for the past 3 years here. Even if Betts is only getting about 10 carries a game I am sure he will have opportunities to touch it in the passing game with the perceived lack of options on the outside. Not too many LB's will be able to check him.

Posted by: cdubb | August 28, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

...I was waiting for you to bring in Priest-Holmes...

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Betts is getting held back for the same reason Portis is. Apparently Betts proved his worth last season.

The two back threat is all the rage...and why shouldn't it be. You can't key off who's in the backfield.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

cdubb, no quibble with that ... but the suspense of not knowing whether Portis (1) is really hurt or (2) had a secret "you don't have to play preseason" deal with St. Joe is killing me. Number 1 and I'm despondent. Number 2 and all is forgiven and I'm downing Kool-Aid shots.

[That word "Kool-Aid" is way over-used ... the Peoples' Temple/Jonestown crowd drank something red, but it wasn't Kool-Aid. And THAT whole shabingus really was tragic (they were drugged long before the actual mass suicide). As a kid, I used to like Kool-Aid. The use of the term to flame hardcore fans, esp. here, bugs me.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many people are unaware of the Jonestown ref?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Has that kid from the PDX come back yet?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 07:09 PM>>>>

This is one fine offer by CP. Well it would be if the game wasn't Thursday.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 28, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

1ssssssssssssttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! | August 28, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing what can happen in 3 hours. According to idiot Jason La Canfora, Clinton Portis goes from being "very, very unlikely" to "he could carry the ball" on thursday.

I love how often La Canfora contradicts himself on a daily basis, and never once admits his mistakes.

Posted by: DC | August 28, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

CP said he practiced today in pads and did not take any shortcuts. CP also said if Gibbs wants him to play on Saturday night, he will play.

CP also had BBQ catered to the Park today for all his teammates.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 07:09 PM

Technology does me in whenever I try to be snide. But let me try again. Lisa, the same is Thursday, not Saturday, I suspect you knew that, but there it is.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | August 28, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Should Jasno apologize if Gibbs changes his mind?

How about if the weather changes?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse


"...I was waiting for you to bring in Priest-Holmes..."

Stumped,

The GM in KC made it clear that he is still wanted there. He likely won't be cut. He is envisioned as a hybrid receiver/running back.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta Falcons
Feelgood story for next year
Playoffs lie ahead

Posted by: Arthur "Haiku" Blank | August 28, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

i just wanted to say that i'm not the only fool in town talking 14-2 and superbowl. i'm in the most awesomest company, my second most favorite person's company, John Riggins. he also thinks the same exact way. for the same exact reasons (the D and st. Joe!)

c'mon people, we got plenty of room up here. jump on the bandwagon! 14-2! party like 1991!!!

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse


The GM in KC made it clear that he is still wanted there. He likely won't be cut. He is envisioned as a hybrid receiver/running back.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 07:48 PM

I actually like the concept and its not without precedent. Not being able to read an offensive formation or the personnel on the field goes a long way.

But what I really love is the way P-H keeps popping up on RI and bloggers play whack-a-mole.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm loving the battles for the last post!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

and what's this love affair between lisa and big joe? what did he do that was so great? he was a good locker room guy i guess. but you put anyone next to Griff and he'll make him a probowler.

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

littery,
So we can start Skippy next to Griff?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The GM in KC made it clear that he is still wanted there. He likely won't be cut. He is envisioned as a hybrid receiver/running back.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 07:48 PM

8/21/07 (press conference on LJ breaking his holdout)
Q: How does this affect the Priest Holmes situation if at all?

PETERSON: "It doesn't affect Priest at all. I sometimes don't understand why the media doesn't listen to what we're saying. First of all, Priest Holmes deserves the right to try to make a comeback after being gone for 22 months. After what he's contributed to the Kansas City Chiefs and National Football League I want to afford him that opportunity.

"But he knew from the onset and I'd like to express it one more time: IF PRIEST IS WITH US it will not be in the same capacity as it was before. I think, and Herm thinks, he can be a marvelous situational running back - that's SHORT YARDAGE, GOAL LINE, SCREENS AND DRAWS. He's not going to carry it or touch it as much as he did when he was with us before.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/08/21/qa_with_carl_peterson_on_larry_johnson/

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse


I am sure many of you would have been happy with a DUI guy like Lance Briggs. I wonder how that would have gone over in DC. In a $200,000 Lamborghini no less. Just another disgruntled free agent. Wonder if Hank Aaron will come out to defend him as well? Maybe you'd have been overjoyed to have him Stump et al?

Looking at the "officially approved" depth chart can be as intriguing as looking at the candid videos on redskins.com.

Let's see: Brunell esconced at #2. Message to Atlanta? To the team? To the fans? Heyer and Armstrong still listed as 1st backups at tackle. Todd Wade now listed behind Pete Kendall and his 1st backup Pucillo.

Toler and Berman backup the usual suspects at WR.

Edwards and Toler behind Cooley

Is Wade on his way out?

Brian Bell is behind Sellers with Beasley listed 3rd.

Its still Portis, Betts, and Cartwright.

Alexander now backs up Golston. Montgomery backs up Griffin.
Its now Philips, Wynn and Buzbee. Carter, Evans, and Wilson.
Askew is there too.

Sartz behind Washington and Campbell
Sinclair and Blades behind Fletcher
Godfrey and Trucks behind McIntosh

Smoot, Macklin, Doughty and Prioleau still stand behind starters Springs, Rogers, Taylor and Landry.
JImoh, Fox and Torrence next. Stoutmire still not listed.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

use of the term Kool-Aid to flame hardcore fans, esp. here, bugs me

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 07:34 PM

Sween--

Jonestown was 29 years ago and people have been using the term ever since. I don't like the term because it's so badly overused and shows that whoever's using it has no imagination.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Even though it feels bad, I guess in a way it's good to know that with the cuts of Marshall and Big Joe, the team isn't keeping players based on favouritism, and are basing their roster on current/future performances. Hopefully this trend applies to all players. Not looking at anyone in particular Mark and Renaldo.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

te, that's what I mean. its tired.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

peri, that's totally unfair. Briggs paid $325K for that car.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

A"nd Herm thinks, he can be a marvelous situational running back - that's SHORT YARDAGE, GOAL LINE, SCREENS AND DRAWS."

AGAIN Bobby Mitchell, Charley Taylor, Joe Washington, Antwaan Randle El, Kelvin Bryant, etc. etc. etc. etc.

And they were all running backs (a quarterback that runs is a running back.

DOH. Homer must live on this site.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Jonestown was 29 years ago...
I feel my age.

I wonder what Miss Teem USA would have to say about Jonestown and Kool Aid?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the "officially approved" depth chart can be as intriguing as looking at the candid videos on redskins.com.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 08:04 PM

Depth chart is unofficial. Injured players not included.

http://www.redskins.com/team/depthchart.jsp;jsessionid=PPKGDCNMDDKF

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

CORKCZAR, that was an error on my part. I momentarily forgot about the game being Thursday. CP simply said "if coach wants me to play in the game, I will play." He did not mention a day/date.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Snide-Free Zone

First we had the Funk-Free Zone, and now I am happy to be a part of JLC's Snide-Free Zone.

JLC has been remarkably positive the last few posts, and I think he might be sipping the Bandwagon kool- er, uh, punch.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Since Bramlet was cut, I've been pretty sure that we'd keep the 3 vet QB's on the roster and sign Palmer to the practice squad. I'm starting to have second thoughts on this now though. I can't help but think that with the vet cuts, and Brunell to get quite a bit of time against the Jags, his former team, that it looks a little like a swan song. Nice farewell to a nice guy. Just a feeling.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

HEHE kost...you said "favouritism"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan - Steer clear of the punch buddy!! etrod has a nasty habit!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

That like "armour" and "colour"....love it

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

That's funny, I thought I saw something floating in the punch bowl earlier....

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

periculum you really need to take your meds and bring it down a little.

Posted by: jm220 | August 28, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"Depth chart is unofficial. Injured players not included."

No, it isn't official as far as the NFL is concerned my cretinous anonymous friend. As a follower of G-Fitz's now defunct practice blog HE SAID HE MADE THE DEPYH CHART on the DIRECTION OF and APPROVAL BT Redskins management including JOE GIBBS.

DOH. Homer are you chasing Spider pig again?

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"periculum you really need to take your meds and bring it down a little."

Using a scythe on cutting remarks directed specifically at me? Now what's wrong with that? Seems only fair jm ..

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm in your post,

peeing in your wheaties

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

crunch, crunch, crunch....Awhh!

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

peri,
A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind man, eh?

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

17A, geeks

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

skippy? you can start Lisa! and she'll make the probowl.

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Taken from Berry's "50 things you need to know (but probably don't)"

Did you know...

#10 In 16 seasons as a head coach or offensive coordinator, Norv Turner has had two 1,000-yard pass catchers in one season only once. Michael Westbrook and Albert Connell both had more than 1,000 yards in 1999. In fact, Turner has had even one 1,000-yard receiver only nine of those 16 seasons, and three of the nine were Michael Irvin. And now he has Tomlinson. I'm guessing Antonio Gates will get 1,000 yards, but that's it.

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#29 The last three years that offensive coordinator Al Saunders had a consistent quarterback, Trent Green had three straight 4,000 passing-yard seasons. Expect Jason Campbell to start all 16 games this season, and look for the Redskins to be behind and throwing.

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#36 Despite his starting only eight games last season, there were only seven running backs in the NFL with more total yards from scrimmage than Ladell Betts.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

lisa, who's this black dude? ohh crap! they got ivan carter talking skins!!! on wapo live! hang in there jason!

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Jonestown was 29 years ago and people have been using the term ever since. I don't like the term because it's so badly overused and shows that whoever's using it has no imagination.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 08:05 PM

Whoa... I think the talent evaluator just gave me a failing grade in preseason. Don't cut me.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I can't help but think that with the vet cuts, and Brunell to get quite a bit of time against the Jags, his former team, that it looks a little like a swan song. Nice farewell to a nice guy. Just a feeling.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 08:16 PM

Kost, I'm afraid that feeling is going to go away pretty soon. Enjoy it while you got it.

If Joe were going to let Brunell go, he would have done it by now so that Mark could catch on with another team. Only way I can see that Brunell goes is he gets injured Thursday or they need the cap savings -- which isn't much since Mark took a cut. Or, maybe Social Security will stop sending his monthly pension unless he formally retires.

Also, has Palmer shown anything that would make Joe Gibbs want to put him into a game?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

#36 Despite his starting only eight games last season, there were only seven running backs in the NFL with more total yards from scrimmage than Ladell Betts.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 08:35 PM

Impressive in paper. I wonder, however, how many of those yards were gained without points because of the case of fumblitis last season.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 8:48 PM | Report abuse

KA--I'm only the evaluator. I think there's another guy around here who's the Turk.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

TE - yeah, they're all fair enough points. Don't get me wrong I don't want Brunell cut, I'd feel much safer with the 3 vets on the roster. I've also said that I can't see why they'd keep Palmer on the roster when they haven't even made time to get him a single snap during the pre-season so far.

Just a feeling I'm having.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I checked the 2007 stats at Fox sports. He's tied for 3rd among RBs that fumbled the most.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe some of you still are thinking Brunell will get cut. (1) Gibbs loves him (2) Gibbs loves him (3) Gibbs loves him (4) Todd Collins and Jordan Palmer (who has yet to throw a pass) as the only backups behind a young Campbell?

No way Brunell is going anywhere...unless he wants to.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Watching SD vs AZ game tonight. Is it just me or does NFLN (more than any other network) engage in gratuitous Cheerleader shots? Not that I'm complaining.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

You go girl!

Posted by: Jack Meoff | August 28, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

KA-

Did you read Wise's article about Betts's fumbilitis? Byner reminds him of the pain every day in practice.

Expect Betts to correct the mistake a la Tiki Barber.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

KA--Betts only fumbled four times last year, losing two. He carried the ball 245 times. I'm not sure it's fair to characterize him as having fumblitis. That would be Cartwright who, in his career, has carried the ball 144 times and fumbled three times.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"If Joe were going to let Brunell go, he would have done it by now so that Mark could catch on with another team. Only way I can see that Brunell goes is he gets injured Thursday or they need the cap savings -- which isn't much since Mark took a cut."

Or he has enough value to trade him ... to a team with former coaches who appreciate, need and want him. Good for both sides.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not sure it's fair to characterize him as having fumblitis. That would be Cartwright who, in his career, has carried the ball 144 times and fumbled three times."

Of all the ball handlers I think Antwaan Randle El has the worst record when it comes right down to it.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

If Palmer look even looks related to his big his brother...Trade MB.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"peri, A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind man, eh?"

Yup,

I'm still waaaay good at evoking lots of reaction. Makes my heart feel good. LOL Former king of alt.flame.ultimateflamers loves it.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, until I see him throw a ball or two... I am not ready to appoint LBP as our QB of the future or back-up QB of the future.

Posted by: KA | August 28, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

David Patten in preseason game 3:

6 for 75 yards and a TD...

Why wasn't this dOOd ever healthy for us? Here we are sweating over a #5 WR.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

No way Brunell is going anywhere...unless he wants to.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 08:55 PM


That's more along the lines to what I was thinking. What if this pre-season he's finding that his body just isn't at the level it needs to be. A game against the former team (albeit a pre-season game) might be a nice way to pull the pin on his career.

But there's really no reason for me to think this, it's just a feeling.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

"If Palmer look even looks related to his big his brother...Trade MB."

Kind of inconsistent in college. But backing up a young QB with two guys pushing to pass 39 is just way too risky. And neither Brunell and definitely not Collins is a Sonny Jurgenson.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Do you guys understand what Periculum is saying? Most of the time I'm confused as heck....am I alone in this?

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Definitely not alone there Lisa!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah...but I feel like you have to have two starting/startable QBs and a solid work in progress, because it takes so long to bring up a QB.

This is where/when MB falls off the map. But Palmer may not be solid, and presumably Bramlet was not solid either.

Just hoping.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Or he has enough value to trade him ... to a team with former coaches who appreciate, need and want him. Good for both sides.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 09:02 PM

I think that most of those former coaches are so old that they have Alzheimers and wouldn't remember him. This guy has no trade value.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I ordered my copy of "Periculum for Dummies, 3rd edition" from Amazon.com today.

Unfortunately, Periculum is the author.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Thats me as the anon at 9:22

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"peri, A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind man, eh?"

Yup,

I'm still waaaay good at evoking lots of reaction. Makes my heart feel good. LOL Former king of alt.flame.ultimateflamers loves it.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 09:06 PM

Peri tips his hand, after my earlier prompt. I jibed and jabbed sween AND Peri earlier.

If you read his posts he brings a lot of insight (though definitely and by design a different perspective than the mainstream).

Like most of us he is at play in a field of possibilities....put another way, don't ever expect a fast ball down the middle from Peri.

So Lisa, (sometimes yes, sometimes no).

Okay, ready for the ridicule. or Pericule.


Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Stumped--Well said. Graceful and insightful.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Unbelieveable that Pinkstno didn't make the squda. I always liked his work ethci, he was tough ovre the middle too. Just shows you what happens when Dan Snydre is rnuning the team, he si just dumb. Thakn you for the blgo Jasno.

Posted by: Walt Poole | August 28, 2007 06:12 PM
_________

LGMO!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough, but there is No Way, i'm drafting Priest-Holmes for the U-bend Blockers.

Posted by: Stumped | August 28, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

i have never read any of peric's posts longer than two lines. i don't think i could but honestly i never have.

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Stumped - If you ever write a book, there's a quote for the Back Cover -

"Graceful and Insightful" - Well known Talent Evaluator.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

According to PFT's rumor mill "Reggie Williams (Jags), Michael Clayton (Bucs), and Chris Chambers (Fins) are possible cuts.

Could it be possible that we actually get a real WR soon? Is this an early holiday present?

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 28, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be an amazing turn around if Michael Clayton was cut after the amazing Rookie Season he had!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

KA--Do you think we should get them before they hit the market and trade Brunell for one of them? Then we can trade Lloyd for another.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 28, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Keisel appeals fine: Defensive end Brett Keisel is appealing the $12,500 fine he received for a low hit on Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell during an Aug. 18 preseason game.

Campbell bruised a knee and was taken out of the game but was not seriously hurt. He expects to play Thursday night against Jacksonville in the Redskins' final exhibition game.

The NFL has been more stringent about lower leg hits to unprotected quarterbacks since the Steelers' Kimo von Oelhoffen took the Bengals' Carson Palmer out of a playoff game in January 2006 with such a hit. Von Oelhoffen was not penalized.

"I didn't think I would get one [a fine] but I did," Keisel said Tuesday. "I guess they've got to throw the flag when you're messing around with the quarterback's feet. I'll appeal it and we'll see what happens."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

TE, I'm okay with those trade as long as it doesn't involve first day picks.

Posted by: KA | August 28, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be an amazing turn around if Michael Clayton was cut after the amazing Rookie Season he had!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 09:45 PM

Yes, personally I'd like to see him in skins uniform to try to get that glory back

Posted by: ka | August 28, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Guys, lay off Periculum. The man has wisdom.

Posted by: Priest Holmes | August 28, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I respect periculum for his dogged and quixotic pursuit of this or that argument, and for the mostly civil way he goes about his business up here, but lately he's been veering well into the dubious territory once heavily trod by dealer. You know what I'm talking about, the path to crazyville. I know wherefrom I speak, because I've been down that path a time or two myself.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

-Stop with the KhulAid
-Stop with the KA
-KA
-ka

You're evolving!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Nate, did you see the lunar eclipse up there in the PDX? There's a clip on CNN out of Portland.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I'd be really surprised if Clayton is cut. Especially considering his age, the age of Galloway, and more issues with Boston.

But you're right, he'd look good in our colours!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

DUI or not, I'd take Chambers first out of those 3 guys.

That is crazy though. 3 fairly young guys, both Reggie Williams and Clayton were 1st rounders and Chambers was a 2nd.

Posted by: cdubb | August 28, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Lunar eclipse? Crap, I miss everything.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a day of posts. What's the cut-to-53 day going to be like?

Was it just me? I barely understood many of the posts when I tried to catch up this evening. Something in the blog-water?

=========================

And apropos of nothing, I chose a blog name one week too soon. Otherwise I'd be "U.S. American" for the rest of my natural lfe. But god, she's a looker.

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Stumped saw it from his garret office?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

And seriously, isn't Miami cutting Chambers a bit like Washington cutting Moss? (Not saying that Chambers is as good as Santana of course)

They lost Welker to the Pats, who else do they have at WR?

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd like extra credit for posting on this other thing that is not quite a blog.
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Seer of the Obvious, I know from obvious, and I know exactly what it is you're talking about -- the anti-Redskins and specifically anti-Gibbs conspiracy which involves the entire staff of the Washington Post and poisons their coverage of our beloved team. It's so obvious I have been a fool not to acknowledge it before! Perhaps I'm a part of the conspiracy myself! Horrors!

Come on, now. We're all super-sensitive, we're rooting our guts out for Joe and his boys, and we want everything to be sunshine and rainbows and winged unicorns shouting "Touchdown, Washington Redskins!" But there are going to be sour moments in the coverage of a 5-11 team which has jerked us around like a yo-yo for the past fifteen years. There just are.

We don't handle bad news well, just admit it, but that's OUR problem, not the Post's.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:08 PM

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

where has that kid from the PDX been?

Posted by: PG | August 28, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Nate, you have been cheating on us with that other, younger WaPo Blog!

"I'm like a chocoholic but for booze."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Sweep the Leg!

Posted by: Slinger | August 28, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

POSTED 8:32 p.m. EDT, August 28, 2007

PASS-CATCHERS AVAILABLE FOR PEANUTS

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that a trio of Florida receivers are available to any interested takers.

Specifically Reggie Williams of the Jaguars, Michael Clayton of the Bucs, and Chris Chambers of the Dolphins are on the block.

But Schefter says that no serious talks have occurred regarding any of the three, which means that all three of them are in danger of being released on or before Saturday. Chambers, a second-round pick in 2001, has been the best of the three. Clayton and Williams were first-round picks in 2004. Williams was the No. 9 overall pick; Clayton was No. 15.

Posted by: Call the Dogs | August 28, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I recognized the Monty Python bit ("your wife, does she go? does she go? eh? ... SAY NO MO-UH! eh? eh?"). But, I don't understand what peri was driving at with the flame usegroup.

peri, the link that your cretinous friend put up (to the Skins site) says, at the bottom, its an unofficial depth chart. I have no idea what you mean by Gary Fitz getting Gibbs' official approval. I don't understand how you get hybrid receiver/running back out of a statement from the GM that says the guy is going to run short routes, goal line, and screens. And what does any of that have to do with Bobby Mitchell, Charley Taylor, Joe Washington, Antwaan Randle El, Kelvin Bryant? You say it like its as obvious as Joe Gibbs saying "guts out". I honestly cannot follow your stream of consciousness.

Stop the KA, sorry, I wasn't referring to you specifically when I was talking about Kool-Aid. Welcome to the blog. The name that was working for me was Stop (its a name that is consistent with the pervading feeling of "uh oh" on the blog, see also Stumped and 4-12). Lots of the posters on the ES site posters use "Kool-Aid" and "homer" just to clear their throats and say nothing. [I'm not ripping that community in its entirety; there are LOTS of excellent posters there ... there's just so much crap in between. The animated emoticons drive me nuts.]

Re: Betts' rushing numbers for those last seven games ... I remember those numbers too. I just don't remember those particular rushing yards translating into winning games. Don't get me wrong, I like Betts, but as the #2 guy. Portis, on the other hand, earns quality yards, motivates other guys, and his rhythm becomes the offense's rhythm. Watching a game requiring Betts' rhythm is kind of like watching Al Gore (the boring VP Al Gore, not the interesting global climate change Al Gore).

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Peri reminds me of Christopher Walken.

Meet Joe Dirt/Fatboy Slim/Click - type Christopher Walken.

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

lisa, who's this black dude? ohh crap! they got ivan carter talking skins!!! on wapo live! hang in there jason!

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 08:40 PM

sorry that wasn't jason. that was some bald asian dude with ivan carter on CSN. sorry, jasno. i was thinking jasno looks different...hang in there buddy!

Posted by: littery | August 28, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I like Stumped's and 4-12's posts. I don't feel like "uh-oh" with them. Or is uh-oh good.

Posted by: khoul aid | August 28, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

"I didn't think I would get one [a fine] but I did," Keisel said Tuesday. "I guess they've got to throw the flag when you're messing around with the quarterback's feet. I'll appeal it and we'll see what happens."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 09:47 PM

Campaign back on. Sounds like he's appealing it for the [FJK] of it. It was a shttyi hit and could have costs the team its meal ticket ... and it was a farkus preseason game! I'm thinking about sending the Commissioner a reply brief my own bad self, pro se. Screw Keisel. "This aggression, you know, it can't stand, man." Plus, he also disrupted the blog harmony, making our new guy, Heyer, look bad. That hit was WAY worse than the one that finished Carson Palmer, which at bottom, meant that the Steelers pilfered the Super Bowl from the Bengals. KEISEL DOESN'T EVEN SAY WHY THE FINE WAS WRONG! ("SHOMER SHABBOS!" ... "Walter, calm down." "Oh, I'm calm, Dude.").

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Peter King on ESPN - Manny Acta leading for Manager of the year.

Posted by: A little Nats news | August 28, 2007 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Orioles pen gives up 11 runs in the 8th.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Portis' 2007 stats:

1563 yards, 13 TDs
32 receptions for 367 yards


Don't be foolish and doubt this guy.

Take away last year and he's averaged over 1480 yards a season. And that's while facing consistent 8 or 9 man fronts in 04 and 05. JC's intermediate and deep passing will open up even more lanes for Portis. He's only 26. And he's way too damn proud to have back-to-back disappointing seasons.

Posted by: CMoney | August 28, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Stop the KA, I probably didn't explain that very well, about the "uh oh" feeling. Its the general feeling of a Skins fan in the Snyder era ... its just hard to accept that the next frig-up by the FO isn't right around the next corner. Its not quite cautious optimism ... more like neurotic optimism. Its like being a freak fan for the team, outwardly fearing "4-12," but secretly aspiring for a Super Bowl and not wanting to let anyone know b/c it might jinx it ... b/c every third move by the FO leaves you "Stumped".

[Maybe I got the Stumped origin wrong, maybe it has to do with Portland, but roll with it for now.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Now get back over to the Redskins Insider blog so I can yell at you over there :)

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 01:48 PM

HAHAHA Nate this post was much better and should get you the extra credit.

Posted by: RBD202 | August 28, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 10:41 is an impressively dense post, sween, with nice ear. You rolling, man!

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Khoul, no question that 4-12 and Stumped are top notch posters, among many many others. Nate, you find the roll call yet?

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone read that ES blog with the horrible color schemes. That thing makes me feel like I have 3rd degree burns in my retina for 3 days.

Posted by: F ES | August 28, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

sween, any RI post that appropriately incorporates two BL quotes is definitely money.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

b/c every third move by the FO leaves you "Stumped"

Not 100% sure, but I think the actual term(not his handle) is a cricket reference!

Posted by: kost52 | August 28, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, there was quite a bit of blogtalk about who screwed up on the O-line when Jason got hit, Pucillo or Heyer. Then there were even more questions b/c its not really possible to know what blocking scheme was called. I used the intergoogles to watch several different camera angles of that play. The more I watched it, the more I thought "WTF is that hit!" It doesn't matter what the O-line did. The hit was prototype bogus and needs to be treated like it was. Sheriff Goodell has brought out his smiting stick to make news about lots of guy's off-field conduct (which I'm not saying is bad), but his PRIMARY enforcement job SHOULD be ON-field conduct.

Coming Soon: I will be singing a 180 degree different tune when my team's lust for mayhem on the field results in excessive Commissionatorial fines.

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Did someone say roll call?

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

How about lets discuss the merits of 2 preseason games and 18 regular season games...

Posted by: Dante | August 28, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nate is cheating on us with another blog? I did that once with Maske's blog, but I felt dirty and came back here where it's all dirt, all the time.

You have permission to ostracize me if I ever butt in over at the Achenblog...

Why all this picking on periculum? He had some pretty sage advice about the ongoing shtistorm that is my dating life. I missed last night's Lunar eclipse because of said storm...

Posted by: P Diddy | August 28, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

t-shirt idea....

Landy on the left .... Taylor on the right...

in between:

"You're entering a world of pain."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 28, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Dante, I am so with you on the 2/18 split.

While we're at it, let's expand rosters to 60 full-time players, everyone active on gameday. And let's eliminate this ridiculous third QB rule.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 28, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm witcha, dcsween, on back story. I'm just saying you've got your own top-quality blog style, denser than HaikuMan but its own kind of super-allusive poetry. dcsweeney agonistes?

Of course, maybe in a couple more beers I'll be praising periculum's limpid stylings.

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

ugh....i am dreading thursdays game

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that, fellas? That was the sound of me cracking open a beer. It's on.

Roll call soon... stay tuned.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy can u get a job at the nfl office. ur roster ideas make mad sense!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Petey King's MMQB tackles the season schedule: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/08/26/mmqb/index.html

Not sure if it's been mentioned already :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | August 28, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Let the owners and players push to make the season longer. Fans should fight for tradition. The Super Bowl should be played in January. The reg season shouldn't start in August. No frigging games in Europe, fergawdsakes.

And while we're at it, the insane profusion of NFL nights must stop. MNF was good enough for our pioneer forefathers, and should be plenty for us.

More pronouncements:

14 is the ideal number of regular season games. 12 was good for the 60s. 16 is too many. 18 would be an abomination. Leviticus says so.

Posted by: farstriker | August 28, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy, its gotta be lunar in origin, the way your summer is going with the other gender. Something might be off (your praise of peri tipped me off to that). Perhaps some cross-mojofication. Remember that young beauty, like a pair Levis, fades. I had a strategy that worked for me, but I don't want to weigh down the blog with it. Does Nate have your email? Ultimately, the right woman is going to be the one who honestly thinks your jokes are funny.

I'm all for reducing the number of preseason games. I don't need more regular season games. I like the way it works (twice in your division, once against teams in two other divisions that your division plays, and once against the same ranked team in yet two other divisions). If they mess with the number of games, its going to disrupt the way to shake out a division. I say replace one preseason game with another scrimmage, and standardize the preseason games more to minimize injuries (including enhanced fines for certain penalties, like Keisel's unsportsmanlike).

Posted by: dcsween | August 28, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing what can happen in 3 hours. According to idiot Jason La Canfora, Clinton Portis goes from being "very, very unlikely" to "he could carry the ball" to "he could start" on thursday.

I love how often La Canfora contradicts himself on a daily basis, and never once admits his mistakes.

Posted by: DC | August 28, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

"I don't understand how you get hybrid receiver/running back out of a statement from the GM that says the guy is going to run short routes, goal line, and screens. And what does any of that have to do with Bobby Mitchell, Charley Taylor, Joe Washington, Antwaan Randle El, Kelvin Bryant? "

Sween,

That basically describes Randle El with the Steelers. Check out his rushing stats early on. It describes Taylor and Monk initially with the Skins. It describes Mitchell when he came from the Browns to the Skins. It describes a guy they usually convert from a full time runner to what amounts to a receiver whether they split him out or not. That is what a rejuvenated rehabilitated Priest Holmes can do for a team. In the case of the Skins he knows the system ... he was the system. He was probably the primary receiver on a lot of patterns before he got hurt. Cripes the Skins used Duane Thomas that way and he was a FULLBACK. As was Hershel Walker and he was a punt returner AND a hybrid receiver at the end.

As far as the "official" versus "unofficial" G-Fitz described being instructed to post a depth chart. Originally there was no depth chart until further notice before the new season started. He said that he had to get approvals from the FO and Gibbs before posting it. But as far as the NFL is concerned it may not be official yet.

If you can't understand that then you need to stop doing so many B-1 bong hits in the morning your brain cells are getting way too fried.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Nice Post up from Jasno.

He also likes the THAT Young steppin D after all. Wonder how much he would enjoy it we pick up some Ravens droppings for back-up o-line guard. (We do like Rabach).

Farewell Big Joe. Thanks for the self surgery story of toughness. I'll never forget the run stuffing and crawling around on all fours like a dog after making the play in the backfield. You were the man when the sun over Fed-Ex was shining on ya.

I agree with the Wilson to Clemmons comparison too, its like Jasno linked up on the right radio wave today.

After all the build up from Grilliams, I am interested to Godfrey "explode through that last inch of contact" as Greggy says. I'd also like to see Kendall lay the smack down on somebody in that Jaguar front five.

I am truly hoping to see Campbell and Portis on the field together. I'll immediately have a bad feeling if Brunel is under center with Portis in the game, one pick away from Deja Vu. (Throwing salt over my shoulder and knuckle danicing with some wood as I type that....


Posted by: DTC | August 28, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Sam Adams Summer Ale is kinda money right now

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 28, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"line when Jason got hit, Pucillo or Heyer. Then there were even more questions b/c its not really possible to know what blocking scheme was called. "

I think they were looking as much at chemistry and coordination. Heyer seems to be better in that sense. Wonder why we haven't seen Armstrong more? They seem to like him an awful lot as Jason's sources suggested.

Torrance is ahead of guys like Eubanks and Westbrook. Makes you wonder.

I think Wynn gets cut and they keep Wilson the Canadian league standout. If they cut Evans then Buzbee stays.

Posted by: periculum | August 28, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

So, DirecTV extortion victims out there, 2 ?s from a guy who moved away from DC this spring and just had his dish installed:

1. Do you really have to have all the boxes in your house hooked up to the phone line to watch Sunday Ticket? All my phone jacks are across the rooms from all my boxes! I'm faced with talking Mrs. Choo into either wires on the floor or an electrician to install new jacks...

2. Can you see the preseason games live, too, or is it regular season only for Sunday Ticket?

Thanks for any experience/workarounds you can share. Would love to see the first couple series Thursday night with 80% of the starters in there.

Posted by: Choo Choo | August 28, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that, fellas? That was the sound of me cracking open a beer. It's on.

Roll call soon... stay tuned.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 28, 2007 11:13 PM


Hear it, I reckon I can smell it!

What's the ale of choice tonight Nate?

Posted by: kost52 (23) | August 28, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Buzzbe has practice squad wriiten all over him

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 28, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

As much as I like the true "core" skins, this is what you have to do in order to move on as a franchise......I remember Big Joe as a hard working non high profile free agent signing that produced and appealed to the common skins fan that pays too much for tickets and beer.....Lots of love for the hard work that Big Joe gave us over the last 3 years

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 28, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

PS: I also like the idea of Gabriel put forward by Andy Griffith. He could be the Art Monk clone that Gibby has been looking for to complete the "Posse II". Santana and ARE get to play Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders. I am stealing ideas here, but whoever wrote that comparison recently, I am starting to see it. The Monk replacement has been the missing ingredient.

A 2007 version of a tall possesion receiver that can snag soupy's high throws and give him a big target when he gets nervous. Ramsley and Brunel both liked fity fity Gardner for the same reasons. You can sling it in the zip code and the long arms can haul stuff in, better margin of error.

Keep the hits comin Jasno!

Posted by: DTC | August 28, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Triple threat posting....

Choo choo, I had same problem re: Direct TV. Go to radio shack and they have "wireless" phone jack that plugs into any wall electric outlet. Prettty cool. Or get one off E-bay, work like a champ.. no changes to wall phone jack outlets.

Also Talent, I agree no impressive stuff from Palmer...cause he never sniffed the field. Otherwise I suspect he would have played Marky B. right out of town.

Good to see Fife Dog back...

Posted by: DTC | August 29, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Choo
No to preseason games on directv
No to all boxes hooked up to phone lines. I think you need just one - at least that's what I have working.

Posted by: RBD202 | August 29, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I'm bout to move to Orlando.....meaning i'm leaving on Friday, does anyone know of a skins bar in O-town?

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 29, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse


"P Diddy, its gotta be lunar in origin, the way your summer is going with the other gender. Something might be off (your praise of peri tipped me off to that). Perhaps some cross-mojofication. Remember that young beauty, like a pair Levis, fades."

You remember the sage advice Pdiddy? Don't listen to dr. sween he swills too much from the font of White Plains. LOL It boils down to this and I am sure most of this blog will freak out in condemnation (Creating more entertainment for a very bored yours truly. ) You've heard the "women are like street cars" or whatever? Men are from Mars women are from Venus horse hockey?

Here's the truth as I have witnessed it: Women like to be romanced men like to romance them to get them. Men are far more likely to do foolish things in an effort to get that one women they believe they can't live without. Some of those foolish things will appear less than romantic to women ... especially stalker type things ... nevertheless it is that man's
notion of romancing his one-and-only.

Women are far more pragmatic. Just because they look like a red hot model does not mean they aren't pragmatic. They usually aren't like Barbie. Women like security over love. They like to feel safe. Men (although many will never admit it) desire an intimate relationship with that one special lady. They want to let the dogs out, release those hidden demons and not be slammed into the astroturf for being who they are.

Those two very different priorities / desires often run roughshod over each other.

Knowledge is power. Know your qualifications as well as your weaknesses. Learn to listen very carefully to everything said because too often it may not be the truth (as you have found) But do not judge. Look at things from the perspective that it is a game and you are supposed to have fun. If you take it too seriously then you will have already lost. So being judgmental, getting angry, feeling betrayed or "dissed" will only hurt yourself.

You aren't going to find your 10 right away. You may need practice with some 4's and 5's, some 6's and 7's before you are ready for her. It may sound callous but that is how they look at it. If you live in the DC area you have access to thousands of beautiful women potentially meeting your qualifications. You just have to train yourself ... get your basic skills down so that your will be ready for that challenge. And that is how you make
yourself a winner in any game.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse


Set of four wireless phone jacks ...whole package $15 on ebay

Posted by: PooPooKaChoo | August 29, 2007 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Periculum...Periculum...

Posted by: Your sanity calling to you | August 29, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Peri
I am having trouble with my hemmy - any thoughts on how to tackle this?

Posted by: RBD202 | August 29, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

periculum... huh?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

kost, sorry for the delay, back here momentarily. Busier night here at home than anticipated, but in a good way.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Nate, you know how Joe feels about the old in-and-out, in-and-out...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Oh dear, I didn't mean that.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Lest anyone get the wrong idea... just having a kind of funny/frustrating time getting the three-year-old to sleep.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I recommend an IV of Portland Brewing IPA...works for me everytime, should be more than adequate for a 3 year old.

Posted by: Fredskins | August 29, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

I read this blog everyday.......whether I like it or ot I read some of the most ridiculous dribble i've heard since miss teen South Carolina decided to open her mouth. That said lets not make this into a counceling session. I'll council you now so you don't get overcharged later in life by some so called doctor. A couple things are set in stone.
1. Women and men whether how different will try to figure out a way to put up with each other.
2. Sports are one constant that will keep man sane while putting up with a woman.
3. Three rules is probaly way too many when trying to figure out why we put up with them.

So my only question is: What do you really think the skins record will be this year?

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 29, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

"Nate, I recommend an IV of Portland Brewing IPA...works for me everytime, should be more than adequate for a 3 year old."

Stick to Benadryl Nate, and read the 3 year old a story. Sheesh and they ask me if my sanity is calling ... LOL

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:45 AM | Report abuse

And Esmydee13 or Hermione13 or whatever?

Learn to spell and write correct grammar. Thank you.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:46 AM | Report abuse

nate -- see if you can keep the headboard from crashing into Nate Jrs' wall. That tends to keep him awake.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:47 AM | Report abuse

"Also Talent, I agree no impressive stuff from Palmer...cause he never sniffed the field. Otherwise I suspect he would have played Marky B. right out of town."

The guy threw a lot of interceptions in college. So, this year they decided they wanted to win preseason games not throw them.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:48 AM | Report abuse

what did he get wrong? All I see is "So my only question is: What do you really think the skins record will be this year?"

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Need some new O-line talent? What happens if this guy gets cut?

Staley, the No. 28 overall selection in the April draft, unseats veteran Kwame Harris. The two have been battling throughout the summer for the job.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Need some new O-line talent? What happens if this guy gets cut?

Staley, the No. 28 overall selection in the April draft, unseats veteran Kwame Harris. The two have been battling throughout the summer for the job.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:52 AM

Umm, he bleeds? Why would they cut a #3 guy?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I read this blog everyday.......whether I like it or ot I read some of the most ridiculous dribble i've heard since miss teen South Carolina decided to open her mouth. That said lets not make this into a counceling session. I'll council you now so you don't get overcharged later in life by some so called doctor. A couple things are set in stone.
1. Women and men whether how different will try to figure out a way to put up with each other.
2. Sports are one constant that will keep man sane while putting up with a woman.
3. Three rules is probaly way too many when trying to figure out why we put up with them.

So my only question is: What do you really think the skins record will be this year?

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 29, 2007 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Nate, you know how Joe feels about the old in-and-out, in-and-out...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 12:24 AM

Nate in the kid's room. Nate out of the kid's room. Nate in the kid's room. Nate out of the kid's room. Nate in the kid's room. Nate out of the kid's room.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Yo Peric why you so mad??

Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 29, 2007 1:00 AM | Report abuse

There's David Kirkus if you ignore the assault charge and believe him based on passing the polygrip ... might be better than Gabriel?

games recpts yards average longest touchdowns
16 9 187 20.8 45 0

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 1:03 AM | Report abuse

"Yo Peric why you so mad??"

Just being troll-ish ... I'm sorry esmydee13 ...

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Esmydee13, I want us to be around .500 at the beginning of December. That would be 5-6 or 6-5.

Five games left, a reasonable shot at the playoffs, every game counting... That's what I want, and I think it's almost realistic...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:05 AM | Report abuse

And the answer is...

Lagunitas Pils, a Czech-style pilsner, out of the almost-lovely and somewhat underappreciated Petaluma, CA.

This is a great beer.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:08 AM | Report abuse

The boy is finally asleep, and I didn't even have to resort to the IV drip or Benadryl or anything but keeping him company for a while.

There are worse ways to spend some time of an evening.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:09 AM | Report abuse

"And the answer is...
Lagunitas Pils, a Czech-style pilsner, out of the almost-lovely and somewhat underappreciated Petaluma, CA.
This is a great beer."

If its anything like THE Pilsn Urquell the original Pilsner from Pilsn
Czechoslovakia I may get addicted. Thanks fo the tip ... Petaluma eh? Odd place for beer more like wine country.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Expect them to be around 8 and 3 by then Nate. The defense looks way too good. Depth there is outstanding this year. Thank our lucky stars. Offense will be sluggish and conservative. As long as they don't fumble or throw int's we'll be alright. Looks like a George Allen kind of year.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I could see us picking up a WR, and I could see us sticking with the dudes we have right now. I am wishy-washy on this. Just having a QB whose passes can reach Santa and Chaos should improve things right off the bat in the passing game. I don't see WR as the huge problem a lot of you do, but then I don't know diddly poo about fubball.

As for O line, I feel like integrating Kendall and a recovered Samuels, and developing some of that critical 'chemistry', is job one.

We do know that if a big name dude is cut and he plays anything approaching a position of need, our FO can be trusted to make a play. That's one thing to love and hate about them.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Some friends came over for dinner a few days ago and brought a six pack of this Lagunitas, and we had some left over (it was a nice quiet dinner). I hadn't really been paying attention to the beer that night, but now that I am, it's quite enjoyable. Better than Urquell, and I say that as a fan of Urquell.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Sounds interesting Nate. Did a google on it, and found an interesting site!

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/lagunitas-pils/7561/


Periculum, I have a few friends who did a Euro trip a few years ago, and they raved about your Urquell.

Posted by: kost52 | August 29, 2007 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Damn, periculum, I WANT them to be 8-3 going into December with a big head of steam, but I just don't see those eight wins, even with our D looking amazing at this stage.

Oh, how I wish to be proven wrong!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Which is not related in any way shape or form to Steve Urkel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Anybody link to Jasno's Wednesday piece yet?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/28/AR2007082801637.html

Hmm... Soup got a direct hit from his blind side in practice. I can't believe Jasno didn't seize that golden opportunity to blindly speculate as to which of our linemen was to blame, and perpetuate the feud that some people think is occurring between him and Gibbs, since he allegedly hates the Skins so much! Ha ha ha!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: kost52 | August 29, 2007 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Love all the Big Lebowski quotes. They really tie the blog together.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Ah, the Germans...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Willie! And was that our man Fred up here a while back? (12:32am blog time)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Have a look at the picture of JC with this article -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/27/AR2007082701405.html?tid=informbox

Is it just me, or when you zoom in on the pic, is JC playing without knee pads?? I know that this before the Keisel hit, but it makes you wonder if the blow would've been softened considerable had he been wearing knee pads.

Is it common for QB's to not wear knee pads?

Posted by: kost52 | August 29, 2007 1:54 AM | Report abuse

"While we're at it, let's expand rosters to 60 full-time players, everyone active on gameday. And let's eliminate this ridiculous third QB rule.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 28, 2007 11:07 PM"

Amen, Brother PDid, and with apologies to Bill Maher, here's a New Rule: All players on a team may be suited for any game and there is no limit on how many players an owner may have on his/her team. (Or in the case of Green Bay, their team.)
Bring as many as you think you can pay. Bring as many as you think you can play.
Come on wit' it!!

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:06 AM | Report abuse


So, DirecTV extortion victims out there, 2 ?s from a guy who moved away from DC this spring and just had his dish installed:

1. Do you really have to have all the boxes in your house hooked up to the phone line to watch Sunday Ticket? All my phone jacks are across the rooms from all my boxes! I'm faced with talking Mrs. Choo into either wires on the floor or an electrician to install new jacks...
Posted by: Choo Choo | August 28, 2007 11:54 PM

Choo, do you by any chance remember a Skin's player went by the handle of Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice?
And, far as I 'member 'bout the Sunday Ticket, ya had to have the phone runnin' to any box you planned to watch the ST on, if ya catch my drift.
In other words, if ya gots 6 TV's in yer house and ya on'y wanna watch ST on 3, then I believe ya only have to have those 3 on phone line.
God, it's so great to be a US American.

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:11 AM | Report abuse

2. Sports are one constant that will keep man sane while putting up with a woman.
Posted by: Esmydee13 | August 29, 2007 12:57 AM

Esmy, my main man, if you are a Skin's fan and you are still sane after sittin' thru the years between Joe 1.0 and the present time in which we find ourselves, then you need to join Nate, Stumped, m'damn self, and who knows who for some semi-serious suds suckin' on Wednesday evenin' in the beautiful river city of Portland, Oregon.

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:26 AM | Report abuse

whistlin' past the graveyard....


(totally gratuitous post.)

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:33 AM | Report abuse

I can't help wondering if 'Esmydee13' is some kind of a riddle for us to figure out, like a vanity plate. But I got nothin'

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Just wondering if any bloogers have ever been stuck in here kinda by yerself, playin' a no limit hold 'em tournament and bloggin' yer guts out BY YOURSELF??

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:35 AM | Report abuse

There's no shame in that, Willie! We've all been there! (Er, we in the sense of 'me.')

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Most nights around this time, we start to hear the chirping of the Crickets up here...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Nate? do you ever sleep?

ODA's tomorrow.

Do I have to institute a curfew and a bed check?

Fred?

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Actually, this is a critical part of my ODA regimen. Something akin to film study, except not as heavy on the football. Beer study, if you will.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:41 AM | Report abuse

I've all but given up the hops for the grape. 1. Buzz is better for me. 2. Doesn't mess with my body as much.

But lord do i love the suds...

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:44 AM | Report abuse

kost, I couldn't find anything definitive about current QBs' eschewing knee pads, though I would concur that it sure looks like our man Soup is an eschewer in that photo.

Turned up this moderately interesting article in my search, though:

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hansen/191439

The dude played in a game when his team was still without face masks and the other team had facemasks. What could be more intimidating than that? Wow.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Are ye a player of the poker, by any chance, Nate?

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:46 AM | Report abuse

You're not getting much argument here on the vino. I think we have a bunch of grape fans up here. Though I myself have not yet come under its spell. Same thing with the golf, alas.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Ach, I'm as terrible at poker as at making sense on this blog. I give it old college try once in a while, but for the most part my hope is to make people smile at my egregious gaffes and lack of skill.

Why, you want to take some money off me? I can be fairly described in gambling terms as a 'pigeon.'

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:49 AM | Report abuse

I have no idea how we're doing as far as the necessary pace to achieve the Boren Penultimatum, but it sure seems like we're blogging our guts out up here,

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:03 AM | Report abuse

Jasno:

Thanks for the insight. It sounds like the team is starting to come together and ready to put everything on the line. A
"do or die" type of attitude, which is good to see with the season just around the corner.

I am looking forward to seeing how the "O"-line performs on Thursday. They are going to be crucial to this season's success and keeping JC healthy, obviously.

Trying to keep things in perspective that football season begins in four days with college ball.

Breathe deep all.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Stumptown Chris! We wanna invite you out for a beer! Interested?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:11 AM | Report abuse

Nate - You reckon it might be "S My D"

Posted by: kost52 | August 29, 2007 3:12 AM | Report abuse

I shoulda explained... I meant Willie, Stumped and me, your PDX compatriots. We're going for a beer tomorrow night, AKA tonight, AKA Wednesday night, in North Portland.

Drop me a line at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com if you're interested in hearing more.

Also, On Deck Sports Bar for Sunday the 9th, of course.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Oh my heavens, kost, I hadn't tumbled to that one. Let's hope you're wrong and it's just that perverted Aussie mentality at work. But alas, I'm afraid you're probably right.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Of course.

Have any watering hole in mind?

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Little place called Pause on North Interstate Ave, just north of Alberta St. That's sort of my neighborhood, nice place with good beer and good grub.

We'll be there around 7:30 tonight. We are a motley crew, but by golly we do love our Skins.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:17 AM | Report abuse

Okay, it's not sorta my neighborhood, it's two blocks from my house, which is why I suggested it to Willie and Stumped, so I can walk! Ha ha. Good times.

Would be great to see you there, my man. I may even don my jersey.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:18 AM | Report abuse

Sounds fun.

I live in St. Johns so I'm over in Alberta quite often. Especially for the debauchery which is "Last Thursday".

Also, I don't know if you've ever ventured to Tom's Sport Bar on Lombard, but they seem to drawl a nice contingent of 'Skins fans (about 6-10 each week).

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:19 AM | Report abuse

That is awesome, Chris. I am unfamiliar with Tom's but may have to give it a look.

One thing I like about On Deck is that it's non-smoking, a rarity in smoky Stumptown, and it has WiFi (that's two things) so there are possibilities of bloggage. But I will go out on a limb and say that Stumped and Willie and I would be happy to find a ready-made Skins bar.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:25 AM | Report abuse

If you live on the Peninsula, why are you driving down to On Deck in the Pearl for the games?

It is nice, I agree. But Tom's is closer, has 16 TVs (including projector screen and a few 50" flat screens. Plus, the beer is cheaper.

In any case, we should change up sites each week.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Which reminds me that I don't think anybody hooked up Esmydee13 (filthy name? sounds fithier each time I read it. thanks, kost!) with a Skins-friendly sports bar in Orlando.

Somebody linked to a Skins sports bar listing a few days ago in response to a similar question... I can't remember what site that was. Hmm... maybe a Cricket will appear who can help.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:28 AM | Report abuse

Well, Tom's certainly has the free WiFi (and good grub--especially the pizzas). But it is a smoke den, that's for sure.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:30 AM | Report abuse

The smoke notwithstanding, Tom's looks like a good little place. And it's also walking distance from my house (albeit a long walk) which is nice. Hmm... veddy veddy interesting.

You say there's already a Skins group watching there? We may need to change venues for week one! Pending consultation with Willie and Stumped, of course.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Tom's is certainly quite the North Portland experience and I can bike there from my house...always a plus.

Plus, they have this rowdy group of Rams fans that you will want to kick the #%@$ out of after you experience their antics, trust me.

But it is always packed with fans from every team debating the finer points of why "this is the year" for their team.

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:39 AM | Report abuse

So, DirecTV extortion victims out there, 2 ?s from a guy who moved away from DC this spring and just had his dish installed:

1. Do you really have to have all the boxes in your house hooked up to the phone line to watch Sunday Ticket? All my phone jacks are across the rooms from all my boxes! I'm faced with talking Mrs. Choo into either wires on the floor or an electrician to install new jacks...
Posted by: Choo Choo | August 28, 2007 11:54 PM

Choo, do you by any chance remember a Skin's player went by the handle of Charlie "Choo Choo" Justice?
And, far as I 'member 'bout the Sunday Ticket, ya had to have the phone runnin' to any box you planned to watch the ST on, if ya catch my drift.
In other words, if ya gots 6 TV's in yer house and ya on'y wanna watch ST on 3, then I believe ya only have to have those 3 on phone line.
God, it's so great to be a US American.

THIS IS FALSE! YOU DO NOT NEED THE PHONE LINES HOOKED UP AT ALL...All the phone line connection is for is if you plan to order pay per view movies etc by remote. I live in Orlando Florida and have had the Sunday ticket for years...No phone lines...You can even call and ask them they will tell you no you do not need it....IT ALSO DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY RECIEVERS YOU HAVE...If you order the ticket it will be on all TVS!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Huh. Kind of interesting, weird, vaguely informed DirecTV discussion up here tonight. Funny, anyway. The critical piece is that there's still time before the NFL season to get the kinks worked out. Which is good for Choo Choo.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:43 AM | Report abuse

All righty, Stumptown Chris and the other blog peeps, I am outta here.

Maybe we'll see you at Pause tonight around 7:30. Drop me a line at the address noted above, if you care to, otherwise we'll see you there, or back up here on RI.

Hail to the blog!

Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 3:44 AM | Report abuse

I swear, I love watching a few games, but the passion with some people and their DirecTV. Maybe that is because it is still beautiful late into football season around here, so I try to limit the amount of games I watch.

When I lived and grew up in DC it was cold by October and you wanted to stay inside...

Anyway, I got to log off so have a good night and dropped you an e-mail.

Hail!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | August 29, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Places to watch the Redskins when you are out of town.

http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToWatch.php

Posted by: The Crickets | August 29, 2007 4:35 AM | Report abuse

More places to watch the Redskins. (Some new, some duplication.)

http://www.haruth.com/WRRemoteAreas.html

Posted by: The Crickets | August 29, 2007 4:36 AM | Report abuse

Is Mighty 13? (Esmydee13),

I used to live in Orlando and don't recall a 'skins bar. I used to go to Gators Dockside on Semoran and Conway just north of the airport. Good food and every NFL game on various big screens. I know as far as college b-ball I often went to Friday's Front Row but that was just to keep the gang happy as I didn't care for it or its location. (International Drive)

There was a link posted about a week ago with "Skins" bars in FL but I remain quite skeptical after reading the list. From memory: it was several locations of Smoky Bones which is a decent chain-ribs place. I remember having a sunday afternoon meal with the fam and discovering the 'skins and Bills on TV, but in no way was it a 'skins hang out. However it may have become one after the 'ol ball coach became the coach.

Lastly, if your looking for a three bedroom condo in a golf community to rent or buy let me know.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Gibbs and Kendall talk about O-Line issues.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28542

Posted by: The Crickets | August 29, 2007 4:55 AM | Report abuse

Change week ago to 20 minutes ago.

Haven't been here.
Orlando
J.B.'s Sports Bar
4880 S Kirkman Road
Orlando, Florida
(407) 293-8881
A room dedicated to the Redskins games.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Interesting...optimism slowly catching on. I think we should be cautiously optimistic for a number of reasons, but I do emphasize cautiously.

1. Continuity. Despite the 5-11 season, the 'skins kept virtually the same coaches, systems and players (four new starters: Kendall, Fletcher, MacIntosh and Landry). This is a good thing for a team that constantly tries to make the BIG SPLASH.

2. Injuries. The Redskins currently have all projected starters...projected to start opening day. Here's to health.

3. Youth. Only eight starters 30 and over(Samuels, Kendall, Thomas, Jansen, Daniels, Griffin, Fletcher, and Springs). All in positions where age/experience is an advantage. Guys in the trenches can have a effective career past 33 (ie. Bruce Matthews, Ray Brown, Reggie White, Bruce Smith.) That leaves a core of 14 players with the only immediate need for youth at DE.

4. Schedule. A good showing in the division and playoffs should be possible.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 6:34 AM | Report abuse

Phoenix, here we come!

Oh Yeah!

Posted by: Kool-Aid Man | August 29, 2007 7:08 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the links cricket. I now know of a place in chitown where I can watch skins games!

Posted by: Dante | August 29, 2007 7:49 AM | Report abuse

What's your favorite letter of the alphabet?

"t" is already taken...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 29, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

DTC, RBD202, Willie, my brother Poo Poo, Nate, Stumptown and even Anon: Thanks for the sweet tips and comments on the phone jacks for my new setup. Looking forward to witnessing the demise of Redcoat's dreams on 9/9!

Posted by: Choo Choo | August 29, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

if Samuels, Kendall, Thomas, Jansen, Daniels, Griffin, Fletcher, and Springs are all over 30 years old this draft we better be looking offensive and defensive linemen...we have enough depth at CB to cover up for Shawn Springs we have time about 4 more years...i hope we can really devlope Byron Westbrook in to a starting CB...i really like this guy..we also already have someone for London Fletcher when he is to old...and that is his prototype H.B. Blades...i really like H.B. he was a great pick in the draft..and yes i believe that we can make it to the NFC Championship Game

Posted by: Fulvio | August 29, 2007 8:02 AM | Report abuse

How quickly we forget 2 years ago when CP was healthy he set the team rushing record and was an overall beast!! There is no need for him to play much if at all in the pre-season. Betts is a good backup I love Betts but he is no Portis. Portis is a game changer.

Posted by: wstclair | August 29, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Everyone in the commute?

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

F Chris Larry

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 8:52 AM | Report abuse

lusting for mayhem this morning. We really need to get some shirts done.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Here are the thoughts of some Iggles fan masquerading his blog as info about the salary cap:

NFL Salary cap prevents development

The NFL salary cap has been set for around 109 milion dollars with no limit in sight to the ceiling. The limit of players on a team though has caused more parity then any salary cap inforced though. Lets look at the Philadelphia Eagles situation as a good example. The Washington Redskins would be the exact opposite of this scenario.

The Philadelphia Eagles manage their salary cap with a formula developed to continue to put the best team on the field out of the 53 players allowed(and 8 on the practice squad). However, because of the limit on the number of players, the Eagles have to cut anywhere from five to ten quality players each year. The Eagles build through the draft and have to develop the talent. Sometimes, it takes 2 to 3 years to get a player to the level needed to be successful on the team. The problem is that the Eagles dont have that kind of time to devote to one player due to the number of new players each year in the draft.

My proposal is to have 25 players on the practice squad with 12 of them protected from being scooped up by other teams. This way, NFL teams can develop players the right way. Imagine if the Eagles had all of their draft picks stick around for year or two to see if they develop. How good could a team be then?

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

So glad preseason is almost over. I've felt like a version of Jim McKay on ABCs Wide World of Sports lately:
"Spanning the globe to bring you the constant variety of (naked people). The thrill of (Brianna loves Jenna), and the agony of (porn mag thief busted after dropping a trey in public)."

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 9:06 AM | Report abuse

agony of (porn mag thief busted after dropping a trey in public)."

LMGO


Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Periculum, you made this statement :"Women like security over love" Where, pray tell, did you get that from??? Speaking as a woman, yes, we like to feel secure but we want to be loved more.

Posted by: Lisa | August 29, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm so glad we didn't get Chris Chambers!

"Maps for the U.S. Americans"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,

That has got to be a generational generalization.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm in the Jimmy Farris for 5th campaign.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Lisa & Peri - how could the two possibly be separated? If it ain't secure, it ain't love!... in my book, anyway.

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

dangit.. forgot:

"Maps for the U.S. Americans"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The other newspaper with Portis acknowledging that he needs to have a good season, or "I'll be out of here."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070829/SPORTS01/108290088/1005/SPORTS

Sounds to me like a guy who knows what he needs to do, and who will be back full-blast in week one.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

And I use the word 'newspaper' loosely there...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

They're trying to get Campbell hurt aren't they?

I guess Joe doesn't learn....

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | August 29, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

jm i sent a shirt idea to Nate, Dont know if he got it or just didn't like it, but it would need some fine tuning

Posted by: connskins | August 29, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Thanks connskins. OK which shirt should I get. The Rocky Mac or Cooley shirt?

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Since it is slow this morning. A co worker sent this joke. LMGO

Husband's note on refrigerator for wife:
Someone from the Gyna Colleges called.
They said the Pabst beer is normal.
I didn't know you liked beer.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

They're trying to get Campbell hurt aren't they?

I guess Joe doesn't learn....

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | August 29, 2007 09:49 AM


Ray,

They're trying to make Campbell an NFL quarterback. The only way they can do it is to expose him to game situations. The only way to learn to avoid a pass rush is by facing a pass rush.

What do you want him to do, Ray? Buy "Avoiding the Blitz for Dummies" off Amazon.com?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Chambers will be released or traded by Miami, they're trying to light a much-needed fire under his a$$.

Did you see that Pittsburgh cut Kevan Barlow? He was looking like he might become an elite RB a couple of years ago in SF and now he's looking for a job.

Also, the word is that Caldwell and Washington are fightinbg for the last remaining receiver slot in New England. Any chance that the 'skins make a run at one of those if they are released?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Oh c'mon. Even if Campbell gets a full quarter of play (which he won't), he'd still have played less than every other starting QB in the league! And he needs it more than most.

As for Brunell, I want him to stay. The way our DEF looks, if something happens to Campbell, I want someone with experience who won't lose the game. There's a reason Collins has been a b/u for 12 years.

And I totally agree with wstclair. The gurus at ESPN etc love telling doom and gloom stories about the Skins, but Portis is our starter and he's top notch.

Posted by: Megan | August 29, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

...because some U.S. Quarterbacks don't have "Avoiding the Blitz for dummies", such as, the Duante Culpepper or the Joey Harrington...

"Maps for the U.S. Americans" such as.

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Nate in the PDX's time between his last post and his first post:

6 hours, 1 minute.

[We need more blogaholics up here if we are ever going to meet the Boren Penultimatum.]

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else discount Ray's post on the simple fact that he double-post move signs his name on every entry?!?!

Example:

- Chris Larry

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

connskins, it's a great idea... but what we need is help in the graphic design department.

Our man Bucktown Skins Fan is the only one who's stepped up so far, to turn these concepts into reality (real live tee shirts).

Other people with graphic design skillz out there who could help? Come on, Redskins Planet! Dig deep!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Did you see that Pittsburgh cut Kevan Barlow?

Wow I remember him having a couple of good years. I can't wait until the season starts so CP can shut all of the nay sayers up.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins Nation" not quite big enough to accommodate kost52, bangkokben, Paps in Manila, protosnot, et al.

-Nate

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

That might be the Return of the Queen!

If they do get Portis on the field, hopefully its in the second half with garbage time scrubs. Umm. Scratch that. Those guys are trying to make the team so their personal lusts for mayhem might be in overdrive. Still, I just hope he doesn't re-injure the knee (or that if he does, he recovers quickly).

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I mean, we're all Redskin U.S. Americans, that's obvious!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins Nation" not quite big enough to accommodate kost52, bangkokben, Paps in Manila, protosnot, et al.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:15 AM

"Redskins World" would get them in. But I think we need "Redskins Galaxy" to include the posters here that are from Mars and beyond.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Gang, I've mentioned it before and will do ao again. Ray never has a positive thing to say about anything. His posts are all "bring you downers" - he also posts on the Wizards blog and it's always how the team is going to crash and burn - something like that - and the Wiz were winning!

Posted by: Lisa | August 29, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

anybody else think Clinton Portis is a bum? the guy acts like he's a top 5 back in the league- maybe 3 years ago but those days are long gone- tired of his whining about practicing and play a "few" plays in the preseason.

Posted by: joe b | August 29, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

TBos was definitely on his A-game in the last article. In addition to "lust for mayhem," we witnessed,

"magnificent brutes"

- i.e., storm clouds

"interior glow of various vague hues, interspersed with multiple lightning bolts striking simultaneously"

- i.e., lightning storm

"a team that is buffeted, up in the air, tinged with the bizarre and perhaps even playing under a dark cloud"

- i.e., ...I have no idea.

Excuse me waiter? I will have whatever that gentleman is having.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Well, not to sound like a witch, but I gather some people are trying to reach some sort of goal on post count here. You might have better luck if there was less chatter and inside jokes.

A blog is not the same as a chat room.

Posted by: Desireskins | August 29, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Lisa,

As I recall it, the Wizards actually did crash and burn. Is he a downer or a prophet. Yikes.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

CP is one of the top 5 backs in the nfl, when healthy. That's why he isn't playing in exhibition games. As good as betts is, he doesn't have the explosivness of cp. Think back to the playoff run...

Posted by: nah | August 29, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, not to sound like a witch, but I gather some people are trying to reach some sort of goal on post count here. You might have better luck if there was less chatter and inside jokes.

Posted by: Desireskins | August 29, 2007 10:24 AM

What? We'd have more posts if we posted less? Would it help you to think of this as a blog and a chatroom?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

CP Rulz dude...why you gotta hate on my bro? CP is fun, funny, good...jeesh lay off the dude!

Lisa, I know your feelings on Ray. Seems like an AZZ to me...thats why I poked him in the eye with the silly way he signs his posts

- Chris Larry

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

tired of his whining about practicing and play a "few" plays in the preseason.

Posted by: joe b | August 29, 2007 10:22 AM

Did I miss something? I don't ever remember CP talk about not wanting to practice. What are you talking about joe b?

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.

Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.

Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?

Peasant 1: Burn them.

Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?

Peasant 1: More witches!!!"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

To me, CP is the Hip Hop generation version of Riggo: Big personality, never practices, wears costumes, is money on game days, and adds an element of levity which helps the team...

CP BABY!

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

It's a floorwax!
It's a desert topping!
It's a floorwax!
It's a desert topping!

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

If anyone has watched Portis' press interviews on redskins.com, you will realize that he is pretty much pulling a Jerome Bettis. He can't even keep a straight face when asked about the injury. He will be fine. He even said he'd claim to be only 98% healthy so he wouldn't have to play. "We're talking about practice!"

God help the souls who think we should bring in Kevan "I was replaced by a guy with 2 knee surgeries" Barlow, Priest "Beer Me a New Neck" Holmes, or anyone else who isn't 26 on Saturday with 5000+ yards and playing with a chip on his shoulder. Relax kids! Portis would have been playing with a backup left o-line anyway the previous 3 games. I mean practices.

When I have U.S. American children, I will make sure they get maps, just like the Iraqi, South African and Asian children. Although I think the Iraqi children would prefer for war to end, and then maybe maps.

Posted by: Section 104 | August 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Sween;

No, my glog is not about cooley, it is about the state of Fed Ex.

I am actually going out of town these next two days. If jasno does not post it by monday, I will copy the email I sent into the blog.

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

i'm talking about cp's interview on channel 4 last night when asked about playing in the final preseason game- he about cried "well if i have to play i'll play"

cp's got to show me something this year - i think his time has passed

Posted by: joe b | August 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

It's a floorwax AND a desert topping!

"Maps for the U.S. Americans"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

... "Redskins World" would get them in. But I think we need "Redskins Galaxy" to include the posters here that are from Mars and beyond. ...

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 10:21 AM

te, already have one of those here (search on page for Mars).

Desireskins has it right. It IS possible to have quality Skins-relevant posts without all the jibba jabba and STILL reach the Boren Penultimatum. No need to sacrifice quality for quantity. Which is to say, what are you looking for in Jackonsville tomorrow night?

Mine:
1. At least three carries btwn the tackles for more than 3 yards. [Fourth week I've been looking for this.]
2. Brunell not to have a "career" game (like Collins' game against the Titans) and prolong the agony over the #2 spot. [But it is MUCH better to have the QB controversy be of the roster spot for the most popular guy in town, rather than the ACTUAL quarterback.]
3. One. Single. Sack. By the Starters. [I count the Sartz touchdown as Prioleau's sack rather than Sartz' interception, so an interception would be nice too.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Wood!

So, why do witches burn?

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Desireskins, have you been following the conversation up here for long? We have so little to sustain us in the gaps between Real News and Events that we often resort to silliness and jibba-jabba, and occasionally devolve into pointless infighting. That's how this thing operates. I think.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis will you please show Joe b more this year, he would really really like that. He is bashing you b/c you don't want to get hurt in preseason games as you did last year. I know I know he isn't remembering how you play huge in games, sacrifice your body, ram into linemen even though your small, set a regular season redskins rushing record, kept the team loose in playoff run, carried us into playoffs...

Posted by: CHRis LarrY | August 29, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Nah, I'm talking about people who show up here to chat about the Skins but don't stick around long. Why wants to wade past non-stop inside jokes?

Of course maybe that's why they call it The Insider! D'oh.

Posted by: Desireskins | August 29, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

joe b is the embodiment of the "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately-fan."

I on the otherhand give CP all benefit of the doubt and well only start heaping on him if he runs away from the line of scrimage. Until then - Redskin record holder.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 10:39 AM | Report abuse

That comment is cp being cp. Do you really take anything he says that seriously?

Posted by: nah | August 29, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

ok, but just for joe b

Posted by: clinton portis | August 29, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Today is the last day before real football games (college counts right?) start. Try not to panic.

Here is a new breakdown of the skins from TSN to hold you over: (scroll to the bottom)

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/redskins/

Posted by: Skinz | August 29, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Furthermore:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=262792

They give the edge in coaching to Miami. Wow rookie coach gets edge over Joe. Fear not. I'm posting from my PDA. On my way to New York to fight the writer.

Posted by: Skinz | August 29, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I don't check in here for a couple of days and find out big Joe is gone? That stinks. I am happy to see a more youthful defense though... it is exciting to see us bring in young cats instead of trying to sell more jerseys with FAs. Let's get that chemistry going.

ps- what is Pinkston's status? Is he still around?

Posted by: Dorf | August 29, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Desireskins, it's a big blog, there's room for a little bit of everything!

And just to catch you up, if your interest and patience haven't already been exhausted, there is a contingent of blog peeps who are working towards a total of 88,888 total comments posted by kickoff of the Skins-Fins game, ten days hence.

This intrinsically silly goal is the Boren Penultimatum, named for the intrepid Cindy AKA Jason's editor, who babysits the blog and supports our silliness wholeheartedly (I think).

It's a steep hill to climb, but with help from good people like you, and assuming a steady flow of Real Skins News to stoke the fire, we'll get there!

HAIL!

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Paul Woody the Richmond Rag's beat writer? What does pulldownclaw think of him?

Seriously, Heyer the starting tackle and Collins ahead of #8 on their depth chart. I'll see it before I believe it. Then probablly say 'I can't believe it.'

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

f Sporting News...

who 'dey?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

good point.

On Offense:

A sustained drive by our O, even if it stalls and we get a FG out of it.

Betts getting some running lanes and 5-7 carries.

Kendall integrating into our first team O.

A long throw to Moss or ARE.

Short passes completed to Cooley in the middle and Lloyd on an out.


On Defense:

Pressure on the QB. Not neccesarily a sack but pressure.

A turnover.

0 TD's allowed by our D.

Posted by: Skinz | August 29, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

sween,

Can't agree with you on desireskins. There is a tradeoff between quality and quantity. Personally I'd be happy to stop shooting for quantity -- I don't understand the point. But I have a problem with telling other people what they can and can't post on the internet, and there's no way you can filter out the jibba-jabba anyway.

This blog has always been a chatroom. You just scroll down and look for posts from reliable contributors who you know will have something to say.

How would you fill in the blanks in this sentence: "Of the 80 thousand posts on RI, approximately __ thousand were actually worth reading, and approximately ___ are worth reading a second time."

Let me also say that people will never agree on what constitutes jibba-jabba. Your observation last night that the right woman is the one who laughs at your jokes would be jibba-jabba to a lot of people. But, I think it just about sums it all up.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 10:52 AM | Report abuse

And Desireskins, you've probably read enough to deduce that I am an idiot.

- Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Dorf he is cut.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

dang! nate, do you ever sleep? on average how much do you sleep? per 24?

CP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we're gonna ride him all the way to 14-2 babeeeeeeeeeee!

WOOOHAAA!

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Skinz,

a field goal? Betts getting 5-7 carries? without regard to actual production? No demand for a sack? That, amigo mio, is the tyranny of low expections.

- dcsween

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The door would have hit Pinkston in the butt as he left the Park, but he heard its footsteps and ducked.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

No restrictions....let it fly...thats what the scroll function is for...personally more jokes I can only take so many armchair opinions on back up RG play...

Only sane goal for Thursday nite is no injuries...if I had my way they would cancel the game, implement P Diddy's roster expansion idea and start game planning for Redcoats Crue now...

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

say any of you geeks on here with nothing better to do know where i can get a quality steak/cheese sub at a reasonable price?

Posted by: daveb55 | August 29, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

skins 31 Phins 15

bet your 1 year adjustable rate mortgage on it people!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Whoever called Clinton a bum - bite your low-hanging tongue, vile beast! The man is the epitome of a gamer. Lest we forget - he blew his shoulder out last year hustling back to tackle the Bungles' Kewon Ratliffe (sp?) after Boo-nell's lollipop was picked off. He is not injury-proned either - last yr was the first in his 5 year career that he missed significant time. And I agree that his knee is fine and he's biding his time until next week. One can hardly blame him give last year's debacle. He's going to have a monster season - his best as a SKin, mark my words. Go on now, Southeast Jerome!!

Posted by: LMG | August 29, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

offensive production and turnovers....campbell will have alot to say about both....his game needs to move up a level or more....portis, moss, cooley et al just need to do what they have proven over thier respective careers....one of the keys is lloyd because we lack any other speed option next to moss ....he needs to give us what he gave sf...45/5 15yds per....the defense will be fine....maybe better than fine

Posted by: Old School | August 29, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Knowing full well that this is going to infuriate Lisa, I honestly think Brunell is on his way out. I just don't see the need to keep 2 back-up QB's who are on the wrong side of 30. This time last year, I would have said it was Collins who should be shown the door. But I think Todd has had a better showing this preseason. Save for Mark coming out tomorrow night and lighting up Jacksonville as part of some 'lust for mayhem' grudge towards the Jags, seems like trading him away to some QB starved team like Atlanta might be the way to go.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 29, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

So how would you game plan Campbell and Portis tomorrow night, if you put on your Al Saunders headset and scripted the first 20 plays?

Start out with a deep throw to Lloyd (like Campbell's first snap as a starter last season), and then da-doo-run-run?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

31 to 15 was a realistic score.

but here's what i think will happen: 55 to 3!

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I love the jibba jabba. Some of the strict skins stuff can get a little...well, stale. How many times can you review the status of a 5th string linebacker who may or may not make the practice squad.

I don't mind reading it, but if that's all there was, I'm sure plenty of us wouldn't be here. What would a workday be without a Redskins Haiku?!

& Sween - I want to see : "No Starters Injured"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator,

Make no mistake. I am among the worst (or at least, most prolific) perpetrators of jibba jabba, which are really just a form of calesthenics waiting for real news (see Nate at 10:38). Its just that I had forgotten that, during the season last season, peeps at least made an effort to add some sort of Skins-related burp to the end of their posts (even if its just a poke in the bug eye of Mr. Cerra-d'oh!).

I'm good with the jibba jabba, but realize that, as community, part of our philanthropic mission is to stay Skins-focused.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

old, 45/5 = 9 yards per catch. 75/5 =15.

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

talent evaluator, Ray was saying "woe is me" when the Wiz were atop of the East division.

- Lisa

Posted by: Lisa | August 29, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

at this point i'll take 50/5 10 per from bustalloyd

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

So far, it's six votes for jibba-jabba, two votes against. Sween voted twice -- once for and once against -- as in "my right head doesn't know what my left head is saying."

Voting closes in ten minutes. If jibba-jabba loses, then it's banned. Nate will enforce the ban.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

lisa, welcome to the day shift! missed ya dearly!

Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around periculum giving p diddy love advice--and pd APPRECIATING it!

Okay, time to go teach. Speaking of which, come on, Dorf, there's got to be a way you can sneak in a planning-period RI session!

Oh yeah, this is a football blog. Sorry, desireskins.

Predictions:

11-5

Win the NFC East, lose in NFC Championship game

Campbell makes All-Pro

CP huge year

The skins defense makes a haka-like video --not as good as the All-Blacks, but pretty fly for U.S. Americans. Big hit on YouTube.

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Redskins have never in their history lost an NFC championship game.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Farstriker - So if the Redkins go 11-5 and win the NFC East and go to the championship game. You are saying you are rooting for them to lose?

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Dang, ChrisLarry - same post, or whut!? Hail!

And 4 the opener:

Skins 17
Phins 10

Dik 8 ... Red Stripes...

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

So how would you game plan Campbell and Portis tomorrow night, if you put on your Al Saunders headset and scripted the first 20 plays?

Start out with a deep throw to Lloyd (like Campbell's first snap as a starter last season), and then da-doo-run-run?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:01 AM

Nate,

Deep throw to Lloyd, Brandon? Risk all the game starting exuberance on the Skins' Priest Holmes wannabe? Not just yet. Not now. Remember, run to set up the pass (not pass to set up the run). That said, you're probably right about the coach in the booth.

If its destined to be a botched play, it should at least be a gadget ... maybe a double reverse from Portis to Randel El, who runs wide but stays behind the line of scrimmage, to pass the ball to Portis across the field. TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!*

* [whistle whistle ... ref whistles the play dead before it starts b/c Lloyd, Brandon does not have his chin strap snapped on.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

DC,

Many years are of crushing disapointments have led me to this point.

Posted by: Skinz | August 29, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone tried Speights Gold Medal? Kost? It's a beer from New Zealand--my favorite beer. Refreshingly light, but not watered down. Too bad, I can't find it in the U.S. (Trader Joes used to sell them).

Sorry for going back a few post back.

BTW, I am officially trimming my moniker down to Stop. Stop with the KA is too much to type.

Cheers!

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 29, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Pastabelli plagiarizing JLC's article, erm, I mean, reporting on the Soups start tomorrow night:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2996049

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

From AP article...

"He still has a house in Jacksonville, visits a few times each year and would like to make it his full-time home again once he's retired."

I thought he said he wanted to reside in the VA area once he retired?

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

More jibba-jabba, Redskins-inspired and "other"!

- Deputy Fife

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Actually Bangin in Bangcock we lost Giants in the Jay Schroeder snot rocket game....

- Chris LaRRy

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

4th -- Hey, that's what my magic 8-ball tells me. I shook it, but it came out the same.

But maybe history, as noted by bangkokben, carries the day.

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Whoever called Clinton a bum - bite your low-hanging tongue, vile beast! The man is the epitome of a gamer. Lest we forget - he blew his shoulder out last year hustling..."

Posted by: LMG | August 29, 2007 10:59 AM

For a second there, I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.

ps, While I never really post, I do read...and the jibba jabba is entertaining. Just like a show with bad language, if you don't like it, change the channel. I vote for.

Posted by: Section 104 | August 29, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

And if you haven't seen a haka, check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Zvs4T4RU30

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

The line is 37.5

Bet the under

Skins 17- Fins - 13

Although knowing the lines, they are always so close, so I would not mind seeing 21 -17 us... .5 over

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

literary

i meant 45/ 5td's /15yds per reception thats what lloyd did approx in sf....if he can that here we are good.

Posted by: Old School | August 29, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Apologies for the erroneous info:

The Washington Redskins have never in their history lost an NFC championship game.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 11:11 AM

The 'skins lost to the Giants 17-0 in '86. I tried to forget Gary Clark dropping two TD passes from Schoeder in the swirling winds of the meadowlands.

Real fact: Washington is 5-1 in NFC Championships.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Hell yeah farstriker... looks like a cross between 300 and a tribaL war dance.

It would be sweet to have the skins D do that.

And that huge guy in green they first showed looked like he was gonna S himself.

Talk about psychological warfare!

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Clinton Portis told the Washington Times that this may be his last year with the Redkins :(

Posted by: Fulvio | August 29, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

That haka wouldn't fly well here with the "throat-cut" sign at the end. Isn't that banned in the NFL or some such?

-SCSkinsFan

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The voting is over. Six votes for jibba-jabba, two votes against. Carry on.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

And if you haven't seen a haka, check it out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Zvs4T4RU30

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2007 11:19 AM

Wow. The guy looks like Van Damn's main foe on Bloodsport http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wpVAdA7Oo0

I wish they had rugby over here for the public....

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Jags' roster/depth chart as of yesterday.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/082807/jag_195155188.shtml

Spot the former Redskin player(s)!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Oh, what a freakin' relief that is, talent evaluator.

Now back to my regularly scheduled inane blather, AKA "blah blah blog".

HAIL!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

For a second there, I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.

LMGO!!! Vote yes.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

All I see is Jimmy Farris..

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

wow, Zeeb - that's a pretty high number for two defensive teams, eh?

Obviously, I like the under too.

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Dolphins 17 Redskins 13. You read it here first, and your TD is a defensive one.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat no way they score 17 points. I don't even think Green will make it to half time. (not that I am wishing anything bad on him)

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey Redcoat,

I watched some 'Fins highlights and, have to say, that Green's Statue of Liberty was pretty sweet.

Did you see that play? Good stuff.

'Skins 21 'Fins 14

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm going out on limb here with the Joey T. like pronostication:

Redskins 24
Dolphins 0 (Although they may go for a field goal in the 4th to get on the board.)

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, way too much jibba-jabba up here. People posting links to Darwin-award winners. Or talking about dirty diapers. Or good beers and wines from around the world. Such nerve, I say. Such nerve. Who would do such things?

- 4-12

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Dik;

But our offense has the potential to be explosive... but on first glance the under makes a lot of sense. That was the original line last weekend... dont know if it has changed

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone tried Speights Gold Medal? Kost? It's a beer from New Zealand--my favorite beer. Refreshingly light, but not watered down.

Posted by: Stop with the KA | August 29, 2007 11:15 AM

This has to be a first. A beer lauded on RI for being "refreshingly light." This sounds like something they'd say at my wife's book club.

On RI, the word "refreshingly" can only modify "heavy" when we're talking about beer. When we're talking about women, "refreshingly light" makes sense, though it doesn't apply to my wife's book club.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

WTG Red, start the Rivalry up again.

Am I gonna hav 2 make my Dad roll out the ol' Fish Fry banner again?! hehehehe.

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Nate, the only former Skin I spotted, Jimmy Farris, also looks like a former Jaguar.

farstriker, that was awesome. Gotta love the opposing team's response -- group hug.

Note: this post is neither jibba nor jabba ... see Jimmy Farris reference above.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat:
The Skins very well may lose to the Dolphins, I doubt it, but definately very very possible. HOWEVA (Stephen A. Smith!), how in the world do you figure that the Dolphins will be able to put up 17 on the Skins D at home? I see them scoring 13 at the most, and that is if they get a special teams or defensive td. Maybe a turnover inside the redzone, which the Skins my well accomodate that one.

I still maintain the Skins need a big wideout to compliment the Smurfs on third down. If he was affordable, Meshawn Johnson would have been perfect for this.

Posted by: Will | August 29, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat--Could you give us a scouting report on your boy Ginn? Was he worth the pick? Should we cover him with Springs, Rogers, Smoot, Jimoh, or all four? Does he know who Sean Taylor is?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

refreshingly light." This sounds like something they'd say at my wife's book club.

LMGO!! That is so wrong.

Dolphins 3
Skins 21

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Fulvio, I think Portis was being Portis when he said that if he didn't get the job done he wouldn't be here. No worries. He WILL get the job done (hope, pray, dominus omus, etc.) and, besides, no way the Skins could afford the cap hit if he moves on.

That said, I think this is the year for the Skins to re-load at RB with a first or second round pick. Best not to wait till its a crisis.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Joe Zelenka!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes I saw that SCSkins. They call it the 'paint pump' and Green had to check twice with Cameron to make sure he heard it right.

I think you will see more 'Weird Al Saunders' type plays in this game from the Fins than from the Skins. We don't have a lot of weaponry available on our O, so expect to see him do things that GG can't scheme for beforehand.

I fully expect to see us use the screen to Ronnie Brown/Jesse Chatman a LOT to take the blitzes out of the game.

I think the reason that they gave the edge to Miami in coaching on that site is that there isn't much evidence that St Joe actually coaches your team any more. Everyone knows that Dom Capers is a great defensive coach and Miami have had a Top 5 D for years. Cam calls all the plays as well as sets the tone for the team, so why not give Miami the edge there? Now if it were Gibbs working under his 1.0 style you'd have a genuine beef...

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I guarantee you Portis's comments were a joke "Oh I don't know, if Ladell keeps playing the way he did last year I might be gone." Stupid Times. They probably think he actually supports dog fighting too.

I don't see how they get rid of Portis. If he has an elite RB season, they won't want to. And if he has a sub-par season or has injury issues again I don't know what team would take on his salary. Can't cut him for salary cap reasons. Not to mention the beating they will take for having nothing to show for Champ Bailey. He'll finish his contract here at least.

1500 rushing (1750 total) and 12 TDs this year for CP. Watch and enjoy.

Posted by: Mike H. | August 29, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

jm220--you LYGO more than anyone else up here. I'm glad you aren't sitting in the cube next to mine.

sween--I've been wanting to ask you this. Your a wordicizer. Why is it "up here?" Why not "down" here, "in" here, "over" here, "around" here, or any other preposition.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Hey 4th, the 2007 Rugby World cup starts very soon. You'll be able to satisfy your lust for mayhem there as well as watching the football here.

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/

there should be video highlights of all the games on that site.

And the US Eagles are in the tournament!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

TE yeah it is a good thing. We wouldn't get any work done my friend.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Hi TE. Ginn is looking better and better as a receiver and worse and worse as a returner. I think he believed that raw speed would be enough on returns and he's been shut down SO badly that they've taken him off of them.

That said, if Taylor goes for the kill, Ginn will burn him.

Posted by: Redcoat | August 29, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat....interesting.

You know, the 'Fins may try a few gadget/misdirection plays...reverses, flea-flickers, to take advantage of the 'Skins young and aggressive (i.e., over-committing) DBs.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

We wouldn't get any work done my friend.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 11:49 AM

Is this a bad thing?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Dave55:

I have calculated the most likely place to find a steak/cheese (correctly referred to as a cheese steak in most of the nation). Please go to the Wish Bone grill on 3rd St. SW for a delightful experience.

Posted by: Stephen Hawking | August 29, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

TE... we use "up here" in homage to Gibbs. Listen to a Gibbs presser and he constantly refers to NFL football as "playing up here."

He means playing at the professional level.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor burns fire.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Who will last longer in the first game? Ted Ginn or Trent Green? Both will be done by the end of 1Q.

F the dolphins.

Posted by: cdubb | August 29, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, fellas, there's a way to get even less work done??

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

What's work?

Wallabies win this year...

Posted by: Skinz | August 29, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor beats rock, paper, AND scissors.

te, I dunno about 'up here.' I'll ponder it. The first quirk that occurred to me is the phrase "Y'aren't from around here, are ya?" That's around, not up. On this blog, Jasno or CynCyty put 'up' a new thread, so I think posters put posts 'up here'. There has to be a funnier answer. Gimme some time.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Joe Zelenka? Anyone? Anyone?

The Red Snapper's predecessor, that's who.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

SC has it right, "up here" is one of Gibbs' verbal tics, right up there with prefixing "super-" to every adjective he says.

We had some fun with it last year, and then co-opted it for our own nefarious purposes, using it as a blanket reference to this blog. At least, that's how I've been using it up here.

-Nate Up Here

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Gascoigne, do you have anything to say to the people of Norway?

How about Miami?

Posted by: Bangkokben | August 29, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Nate, until MV Dame rekindles his critically-acclaimed series, "Today in RI History," I submit to the group that you are our resident RI historian (in addition to your duties as Deputy).

RI historian is an awesome responsibility, but I am confident that you are up to the task up here.

Posted by: SCSkinFan | August 29, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Charley Casserly called Ginn the second fastest football player he ever scouted!

When asked who was first - 'Skins should know... DGreen!

Mmmmeeeemorieees... ... tear :`-[

"Maps for the U.S. Americans"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

and the Iraq's

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please tell me what is the RIGHT answer to that question -- "Why don't U. S. Americans know where their country is on a map?"

That's a tough question especially if, as Miss TSC said, she only heard about two words of it. For that matter, how many of the people who have posted here today can find the US on a map?

She gave a good answer later on her second guess -- she blamed it on her teachers.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Getting off the so-called twisting, turning John Nash Highway followed by Dealer and Nate ...

I think redcoat is right. I suspect the Dolphins win this one.

The Skins are bringing in some youngsters both on defense and special teams. Portis is behaving like a primadonna. Yes its true that San Diego holds back LT AND the Redskins of old used to hold back Larry Brown the entire preseason. Both for good reason. Clinton Portis, as much as he wants to believe it is so IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A LaDamian Tomlinson OR A Larry Brown. He definitely needs preseason to get ready. Now it will take him a few games to get rolling. And he will likely fumble.

The OL is still in disarray, still trying to get in synch, still trying to get on the same page.

The QB will be throwing a lot, to whom? Santana Moss and Cooley. I don't expect much from the others. Might help more to put Antwaan Randle El in the backfield with Portis. Mistakes may be made. Bad ones like fumbles and ints.

The defense is going to be younger. Facing off against their 1st veteran QB. Someone who I am sure is passing off tidbits to the Fins defense about how the Redskins offense works. While he himself is learning a new system.

I expect the defense to be very effective but to make enough mistakes to let the Fins score.

HOWEVER there is an X-FACTOR. And that is Randall Godfrey. If he shows and plays the way he has for San Diego et al. HE could change the complexion of the game. In the early going I expect Fletcher, Griffin, Washington (if he is in there) and Godfrey will anchor this defense and standout as leaders. That will be a very good thing Redskins fans worldwide.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Its official, Periculum has lost his mind....

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Reaching under the desk. Pulling out both hammers. Smack to the back of my own damn head for reading periculum post. Why do I keep doing it to myself?

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

TE--

I say all U.S. Americans receive a copy of this map:

http://forums.nightly.net/lofiversion/index.php/t39621.html

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Periculum and anyone else who likes Pilsner Urq (sorry, from last night)- I love it too, but if you ever get the opportunity to spend any time in the Czech Rep, take advantage- some of the best beers I've ever had. If you like the above, you'll love Gambrinus (my personal fav), Krusovice (which I heard was sold to Heineken in June- may make these less impossible to fine), Velvet, Velke Popovice, etc. And the only "light" you'll find here is the light flowing from the gates of heaven as you taste one of these beauties.

http://travel.nytimes.com/2006/08/06/travel/06Beer.html?fta=y

Skins: 24
Fins: 13

Posted by: D7 | August 29, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I see some predictions up here for week...

I'm thinking 19-14 Skins. The offense moves the ball but struggles to convert in the red zone. D plays well, giving up only 14 to the Fins.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 29, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Peri,
If the Skins drop the season opener to Dolphins, who do they beat this season?

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Its official, Periculum has lost his mind....

No, no, CL. He hasn't lost his mind. You're implying that his mind was previously in a rational mindset.

This is merely another manifestation of his particular Pericularity.

It's when he starts speaking logically and rationally that I suggest we all bend over and touch the floor, just to make sure the Deep, Deep South didn't get a few degress colder.

Posted by: FlimFlam | August 29, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

But periculum, what about the part where they're saving Portis to be the QB this year? You know, based on your theoretical/existential statistical analyses... he's completed 2 of 4 passes for 32 yards and 2 TDs in his career. Passer rating of 116.7. Shocked, just SHOCKED, that you've overlooked such an obvious choice for our starting QB!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

periculum,

The game is a contest between two teams, not one. You can't analyze the game by looking only at the Redskins. This isn't masturbation. A convincing analysis has to look at both teams and how they line up against each other. Based on your analysis, the Redskins would lose even to the Washington Wizards or the Alice Deal Vikings.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Of course, if we send Brunell to ATL and sign Priest Holmes as a WR then we will beat the Dolphins...right, Periculum????

Posted by: Lisa | August 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Sh!t that Myspace got my dick horny.

Posted by: Loadman | August 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Today in RI History

Jasno was absolutely crushing it, four posts in one day... though three of them were about kickers. (Remember when we had kicking competition in camp?) These posts garnered 14, 11, 17 and 8 comments respectively. The good old days?

The first and best post of Jasno's on this day last year was an unabashedly positive(!) look at Cornelius Griffin's importance to the D, which correctly noted how bad we looked without him in there and health.

Almost unconscionable today: the first comment on that thread, from JT, wasn't posted until it was 56 minutes old and did not contain the word 'first.'

Also namechecked by Jasno one year ago today: Jimmy Farris

Notable potables in the commenting mix: Chief Clancy Wiggum; Bucktown Skins Fan; tallbear; "your editor" AKA "Jason's editor"; P Diddy; TxSkin; Testudo; X.Hog

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Blogcount be danged. ITp.

Are the Skins doing anything today? Jasno's article today says that yesterday's practice was the only one of the week. Does that mean they are flying down today? Stay here, work out, and watch film? Get in a few rounds of paint ball?

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Actual CP Qoute:

""I'm about 85 percent, maybe 95 percent tomorrow, probably 98 by game time," he said. "Hopefully [coach Joe Gibbs] will understand [that] I'm only 98 percent and keep me on the sidelines [for Thursday's preseason finale at Jacksonville]. By Week 1, I have to be 100 percent."
"

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Periculum is the football fan version of Miss Teen South Carolina.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse


Almost unconscionable today: the first comment on that thread, from JT, wasn't posted until it was 56 minutes old and did not contain the word 'first.'

lmgo

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

4-12 best post of the day.

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Latest!

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I expect the skins D to play nearly lights out with the exception of a couple big plays. After last year and from what I've seen this year, I'm still expecting to see a big Ronnie Brown break for like 40 yds or a deep bomb over Carlos Rogers' head. I think plays like this might slip through in the first four weeks of the season as the D gels.

Unfortunately, the Offense--at this point--needs even more work to gel and I hope it can get done in 1-4 weeks. Gibbs needs to insist on max-protect and power running by Portis and Betts with occasional deep passes to keep Ds honest. The fancy stuff is going to have to take a back seat while Kendall learns the offense and JC heals his knee.

I see a little stumbling on both sides, but the Dolphins don't have a lot on offense to scare me.

I think:
Phins: 13
Skins: 14

Posted by: nyskinsfan | August 29, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Lastest.

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Most current

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, the team is flying to Jax today.

Posted by: Lisa | August 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jm220 | August 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Lol, I know where MV Dame is lurking... he is trying to maintain "last" status on the previous thread.

Go check out the battle of "Last Man Standing."

...

"Though Sun is shining
Your last post lays in darkness
'Neath MV's shadow"

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

That's it. In my next career, I'm going to be a headline writer...

http://www.columbiatribune.com/2007/Aug/20070828News053.asp

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

plus currant

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Jasno probably flying down to JAX today as well, or tomorrow morning? Perhaps a rare day off for him, then, if the team's traveling and there's no real news.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

You'll all rue this day
Indomitable MV
Can't be defeated

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Here is a positive piece of analysis by the statistical-oriented website Football Outsiders. Their metrics are very complicated and I tend to only cite them when they support the Redskins as in 2005 when they said we ended the playoffs with the best defense in football. Here goes (the first number if the betting line and the second number is what their official publication says and then the author's commentary is more positive than that:

. . .

Washington Redskins (+/- 7.5 Wins)
PFP 2007 Projection: 8.2 Wins

I'm going to say that the Redskins not only hit their Over, but they host a playoff game. Why? A lot of things. Their third-down performance on defense is going to improve, and they've upgraded their weaknesses with the additions of LaRon Landry, Fred Smoot (who is at least better than Mike Rumph, for sure) and London Fletcher-Baker, plus the return to health of Cornelius Griffin. On offense, while Brandon Lloyd will continue to be Brandon Lloyd, the Redskins will have had a full year to digest the Al Saunders offensive playbook, with Lewin Career Forecast favorite Jason Campbell behind center from training camp on. While we're not sanguine on Clinton Portis' chances of staying healthy for a full year, he'll be able to split time with Ladell Betts. I may be a fool, but I think that I'm buying low here on an underrated team.

Posted by: JamesTuthill | August 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

A Gibb-ism from his first tenure: "flustrated", which I assume is a combination of flustered and frustrated. He used it when things did not go well - "We were all very flustrated by the lack of turnovers" or some such. I have not heard him use it since he has been back.

Posted by: Mark (in21132) | August 29, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

indeed James, indeed.

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

for stumped
เดียวนี้

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Mark, another one of my favorites, which we heard all the time when Gibbs first came back -- and which sadly hasn't been heard very much in the middling seasons since, even in the playoff run -- is that high-pitched cackle of a laugh with which he sometimes ends a sentence. Man, I love that cackle.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Dominable Dame
Like balls from Roger's stone hands
Falls with a loud thud

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

เเละผมมีเรื่องต้องชี้เเจง เดียวนี้

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Nate, also love when he cackles his guts out. The difference btwn pregame Gibbs jogging onto the field and weakened, drained Gibbs truding off the field post-game is shocking. It looks like the game literally sucks age out of the guy. Gotta love the guts out cackle.

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

trudging, not truding

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, you rock! Especially if you typed it in.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Skins move the ball well but settle for two FGs and one TD. The Fins don't accomplish much on offense and give up a defensive TD at the end. Final, Skins 23 Fins 13.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 29, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

ขาดใจ (the right response).

The previous response was from Miss Teen Thaistick.

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Stumped,

Good luck with Miss teen Thaistick.

Night, all.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 29, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Too early on Phins
Must exit Jax uninjured
Don't count unhatched chicks

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please tell me what is the RIGHT answer to that question -- "Why don't U. S. Americans know where their country is on a map?"

That's a tough question especially if, as Miss TSC said, she only heard about two words of it. For that matter, how many of the people who have posted here today can find the US on a map?

She gave a good answer later on her second guess -- she blamed it on her teachers.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 12:26 PM

Agreed about the question being hard. However, one should at least be smart enough to recognize it as such, take a moment, gather ones thoughts, and respond coherently. There is no excuse for firing off a non-coherent response.

Posted by: Stop | August 29, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Do I want trouble?
As sure as shti I sure do.
Its last name? Helmsley.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/29/AR2007082901071.html

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

correct response: Could you repeat the question?

(always makes for stunning television)

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

" ... There is no excuse for firing off a non-coherent response."

Posted by: Stop | August 29, 2007 01:42 PM

Uh oh. You mean I need to start coming up with excuses?

[Poke poke: Why is it St. Joe and never Vinny (as a proxy for The Owner) who accepts responsibility on the flip ups? Has anyone ever spoken on record to acknowledge the FA shabingus after the 2005 season?]

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben, I love the optimism, but if we beat them 24-0, I will run naked up and down Madison Ave (Cincinnai that is, not NYC) yelling "Portis for Prez!! Portis for Prez!!" We will do well to escape with a victory, given our lack of continuity with the first teamers, particularly on offense. I am hoping and thinking that our D can keep us in games the first few weeks while JC, Portis, Samuels, Kendall, et al knock off the rust.

Nonetheless, this could be a 10 or 11 win team a la '05. JC is going to surpise some peple, CP will bring it, Laron and Sean will kill 4-5 guys on the field sans conviction, and Suisham is good for at least 2 GW FG's. To paraphrase Eddie Veder, "Hail hail the lucky ones, I refer to those in (burgudy and gold)..."

Posted by: LMG | August 29, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Skins 27
Dolphins 17

Skins will score on a 4th and 1

Sound familiar????

Posted by: sicwidit | August 29, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Stop--Does this mean you don't know the right answer either?

Stumped--Or like in a spelling bee, "Could you use it in a sentence?"

I agree that the girl could and should have done much better, but the question is one that can only be answered (correctly) by empirical research. Most of the questions these girls get are ones that the answer is "love", "world peace," "puppy dogs," or "my parents."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Getting on towards lunchtime out here... this article on DC food carts caught my eye.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/28/AR2007082800420.html

Portland's booming food cart biz is noted therein. Off to one of them shortly myself...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: littery | August 29, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Correct Answer;

Geography as a discipline has been in decline for some years now.

In the age of exploration they were highly sought after, highly compensated and respected members of the military and kings court.

As formal education became the norm is most countries, a apprenticeships became unnecessary, certain educational vocations became more important. Advances in science, mathematics and more popular disciplines put geography at a distance.

Geographic principals have not change that much throughout the years. Now that we have the printed word you do not have to know geography as a principal and theorem, you only need to know how to read a map.

But even that skill is now lacking. With the advent of technology, we have forgotten how to get somewhere and relied upon a mapping software or GPS device to tell us where we are and where to go.

You see plenty of evidence in nature about how knowledge of where they are and where to go is necessary for survival. Migrating birds, whales returning to breeding grounds and even phytoplankton who know when there is a full moon and to release its eggs.

This is a microcosm of society as a whole. Many say todays generation is lacking direction and does not understand their place in society or history as a whole. We are too reliant on the easy way of doing things. Technology has been wonderful for human advancement, especially in the medical sciences.

But as we confront major societal issues, such as obesity, we can point directly to technology helping to make humans essentially lazy. After millions of years of evolution and advancement, we have finally outmoded ourselves making these advancements unilaterally unimportant.

All one has to do is go outside and look in one direction. You should be able to tell which cardinal direction you are facing. There are numerous clues in nature that can point this out, yet we have forgotten these skills.

So in closing, as a geographer, it pains me when someone cannot pick out their own country on a map. But it really is not out of lack of intelligence. It is from lack of experience with one of the most simple and vital principals that humans needed to survive, where are we, and where do we need to go.

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I just got back & want to respond to the MAP! (killer, btw).

I wasn't aware that Canada had so many mice, tho!

"Maps for the U.S. Americans"

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Ny

I would say that based all we have done from inserting JC into the lineup at mid year right thru to the trade for kendall,has put us in a position to be a team that is undervalued and therefore has achance to outperform the national (local?)media's expectation..... it really could be the anti-last year

Posted by: Old School | August 29, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Concise right answer.

I wanna be a teacher when I grow up...
{teaching underpriviledged or disadvantaged children, is always implied in these contests}

(note: it is very important to correctly enunciate the "wanna be" and not resort to the archaic "would like to be")

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

It is from lack of experience with one of the most simple and vital principals that humans needed to survive, where are we, and where do we need to go.

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 02:02 PM

I'm at my desk, and need to go take a leak. Two left turns, and one right turn, and I should be good to go.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 29, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

zeeb,

So the girl's second answer -- blaming her teachers -- was the right one.

Thanks for that, an unexpected benefit of the jibba-jabba on RI. A little more intellectual than we're used to on Redskins Insider. More like Redskins Insighter. Maybe not as riveting, though, as Redskins Inside Her.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

4-12, you are one of the lucky ones ;)

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

TE Well, in highschool geography was limited to a month as a chapter of history.

It might not be the teachers fault, as you will most likely not see a geography teacher in grade schools or high schools.

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Still troubled by this pageant Q&A brouhaha. My transcript and commentary:

Aimee Teegarden: "Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the US on a world map. Why do you think this is?"

comment: it seems to be totally silent in the auditorium, and the question is
asked from the foot of the stage in a clear, amplified voice, and I don't see any reaction from the smiling contestant which indicates any difficulty hearing the question.

Miss Teen South Carolina: "I personally believe that U.S. Americans* are unable to do so because, uh, some-uh people out there in our nation that don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our, ah, education, like such as South Africa, and the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq [timer bell] and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future [mike retracted momentarily by emcee] for our-" [mercifully cut off by emcee]

* I personally heard this as 'you as Americans' the first time -- which is funny in a different way, a person from South Carolina addressing the audience as Americans in the second person -- but now I agree that she said 'U.S. Americans'.

comment: this young lady is truly dumb

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Cowboys not impressed with RB Jones
There's one reason and only one reason I think Julius Jones will be gone at the end of the season: The Cowboys don't think he's special. Think back over the last couple of years. The Cowboys worked out deals with Jason Witten, Bradie James and Roy Williams before or during the final year of their contracts. They're doing the same thing with Tony Romo. There has not been a peep about giving Jones a new deal. The Cowboys think Jones is a good player, but not worth the millions of upfront cash it will take to keep him. -- Dallas Morning News

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Zeeb & TE,

Maybe her $$ craving parents hold some responsibility here? I mean, Miss USA? it's that like pimpin her out? Granted, to some millionare sheik, but.. same dif!

Just think - only a year or two til' bathroom makeout pix!

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

'everywhere like such as'

comment : great command of the english language... dumb isnt the word

can we use this as a blog slogan on a tshirt.

Like all of the gibbs isms and this statement... somehow showing that at least gibbsisms are like hers?

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"are like hers?"

should say arent, or not as bad.

She is super-dumb. she fought her guts out to f up that response.

Posted by: Zebra | August 29, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

I took her "hearing only two words" to mean that she was so tense/frightened that the words didn't penetrate her conciousness. They went in her ears, but never reached her brain. Maybe, as you suggest, that's because there was no brain to reach, but frankly, I'm surprised more people in these events don't have the same reaction. I'm sure if you had asked her the same question in a room with her friends she would have done better. Or maybe even if she'd been last instead of first.

Mind you, this is not say that she's not -- as you gracefully put it -- truly dumb. But she looked and acted tongue-tied or, maybe, dumbstruck. I don't think I could have done much better than she, although I am a beastly good looking hunk and people might not have noticed.

Let's get her up here to do a guest blog. With pictures, of course.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Jets eye former Ravens lineman?
The Ravens waived guard Keydrick Vincent, a seven-year veteran, on Tuesday. Vincent, who started 12 games last year, underwent successful surgery for a sports hernia in the off-season. But he lost his job because of a youth movement. Vincent's agent, Ken Zuckerman, said Tuesday a "couple of teams" already were interested, but the Jets weren't one of them. Zuckerman indicated the Jets could be a possibility, although there has been no contact with them thus far. -- Bergen Record

THE IRONY!

- 4th Floor

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 29, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

NEW ANALYSIS:

Miss Teen South Carolina elected to deconstruct the ignorance referred to in the question and reinscribe it into the contest...so she chose to assume the persona of someone who might not understand what a map actually is. She also wisely chose to specify "US Americans" to clarify that all the other inhabitants of our two continents may in fact own maps and possibly look at them from time to time.

In doing so, she has exhibited the Britney Spearsification of our country (we two are in the head-shaving twilight of our status) , which indites the culture of celebrity and even the very beauty pageant of which she is a part.

Brilliant.


Back to you Periculum.

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

4th, irony indeed ... it might also put the Jasno hating crowd into convulsions that a guy he thought the Skins could pick up as depth ends up being the guy to salvage the Jets' season! [note: Skins play the Jets at the Meadowlands this year, in that cruelest of months (this season anyway), November.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

the jets are sooooo desperate....they would be idiots not to do this...

Makes you wonder why the the "Genius" Ozzie Newsome didnt try to unload the dude for a low level draft pick.

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Dik, Nate, and now Zebra?

et tu, Zebra?

Man, I can't believe I'm the only one who's willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and make excuses for her. That is so unlike me.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

bangkokben sez,

"for stumped
เดียวนี้"

I dearly hope that is the sign of the Pizza Hut in Bangkok. MMMMMM and its time to eat here!!!!

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

4th, time flies when your guts out bloggin'. Jasno put this up only 25 hours ago!

"Keydrick Vincent

The Skins have already made one significant move to better their O Line, and if I am them I'm checking out this dude, too.

The Ravens have gone with a youth movement on their line, but this guy can play some and would give them great depth at guard. Pucillo is very valuable as the back-up center and the tackle eligible in the jumbo package, but other than that they don't have much. He is much more at home on the right side, too, but Vincent has worked a lot on both sides."

Posted by: dcsween | August 29, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Phad Pizza.

I'm ready to digest my gut out.

Posted by: Stumped | August 29, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Panties.

It needed to be said.

Posted by: Willie | August 29, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

When will sports will become relevant in DC area on a national level again? The skins suck, the wizards suck, the nationals suck, and the capitols suck. The only thing that the DC metro area has going is MLS, lame game!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Makes you wonder why the the "Genius" Ozzie Newsome didnt try to unload the dude for a low level draft pick.

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 29, 2007 02:38 PM

You can be sure that he did try to get a pick and that he couldn't. For all the talk up here about trying to get picks for guys who are going to be waived, I don't think we've seen many such trades this year, have we? Kendall? The Philadelphia backup QB?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"Peri,
If the Skins drop the season opener to Dolphins, who do they beat this season?"

Hmmm my analytical brain that apparently has claimed that Portis would make a good QB (where does 4-12 get his stuff I can do better than that in my SLEEP dude!!) sez:

Dolphins are NOT, I REPEAT NOT (to all you miss teen South Calinky types out dere) IN our conference. AND especially NOT in our division.

That said I am not unhappy with the idea of an extended "preseason" trying to iron out the OL, the running backs etc.
in that game. In fact Jason mentioned in his article that holding
back Portis was probably a mistake as it will take a few games
to get him rolling. Then he mentions Betts. I like Betts. He works hard. Portis is too busy worrying about dog fights. Then there is the wide receiver snafu. Its going to take time.

But a loss out of conference, out of the division I can live with as long as it prepares them for those all important division matchups.

But on the defensive side of the ball it will be a wake up call. It will wake them up to the fact that they are going to be the driving force behind the team this year. That as THEY GO so go
the Redskins. Then the leaders will rise up, Griffin, Godfrey, Fletcher, and Washington and in the second game there will be hell to pay.

Posted by: periculum | August 29, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

New post. Last!

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: farstriker | August 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Miss Teen South Carolina is the Scott Norwood of beauty pageants.

Posted by: etrod | August 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

TE, you're right, of course. But dang this is funny.

Stumped is right too. Oops. She did it again.

It's all so Orwellian. Double Plus such as.

Posted by: Dik | August 29, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"Hopefully I showed them enough in practice where I ain't got to play on Thursday," Portis said. "But if he asks me to play and if I got to play, then okay."

Doesnt sound like a team player to me!!

Posted by: WVRedskinFan | August 29, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Is it "jibba jabba" or "jibba-jabba"? I don't want the lack of a hyphen to prevent me from coming correct on this blog.

Posted by: EM | August 29, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't honestly know, EM, though I am a leading purveyor of this material.

jibba jabba is probably right?

jibba-jabba?

Huh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The Hyphen-Nater
Less elements of style
He's no Strunk & White

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Vineyard man knows much;
We can all learn a lesson.
Everlasting Dame.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 29, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Nateskin on his toes
Must buy him Samuel Smith
Take his mind off blog

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

последнее

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 29, 2007 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Очень умные, SC
Я могу хайку на русском языке
Поскольку все греческое мне!

Posted by: MV Dame | August 29, 2007 7:29 PM | Report abuse

С большим успехом!

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 30, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Ha!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 30, 2007 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs, Cam Cameron.
Offensive masterminds, watch:
D carries the day.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 30, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Fie on you Nathaniel from the Land of Port!

Posted by: Redcoat | August 30, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Why can't we be friends?
Can't we all just get along?
Let's give peace a chance

Posted by: MV Dame | August 30, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

thongs

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

No truce for you sir
Until you leave my domain
Redcoat reigns alone

Posted by: Redcoat | August 30, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

edible thongs

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Mine

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Hysterical screams,
"Can I ever be the last?"
Never on our watch!

Posted by: Captain Hook | August 31, 2007 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Yet, like bent penny
Returns again to the fray
Reclaiming his right

Posted by: Redcoat | August 31, 2007 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Ryan Hoag seems to have played his way onto the team as WR. Oh, but he's white. Never mind.

Posted by: Gov. Grason | August 31, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

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