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A slow third quarter, with more injuries

After an opening half in which 37 points were scored, neither team was able to muster much offensively in the third quarter. In all, the teams punted a combined five times.
The Redskins opened the half with a drive that opened with a 24-yard pass from Campbell to Santana Moss, but eventually stalled after a holding call put them in a second-and-21 hole.

The Redskins forced a three-and-out after a sack by defensive end Andre Carter, who knows has 6.5 sacks on the season. The hit forced a fumble, but the Eagles were able to recover and eventually punted.

Washington then went three and out on its next drive, however, with Campbell easily getting sacked on second down and the Redskins coming up short on third-and-17.
Philadelphia finally started moving the chains on its next drive behind a 20-yard reception from Jeremy Maclin and a 12-yard pass to Jackson sandwiched around a 15-yard facemask penalty from Redskins linebacker London Fletcher. After reaching the Redskins 43-yard line, however, the Eagles stalled and punted and Washington took over on its own 18.

It was more punting on the Redskins next drive, however, as after picking up a couple first downs - their first since the opening play of the half - the offense slowed and another Campbell sack followed by an incompletion led to another punt.

By Paul Tenorio  |  October 26, 2009; 11:02 PM ET
 
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Comments

Welcome to rock bottom.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | October 26, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

SoCal there is farther to fall before we hit bottom ....

Posted by: GWSkinFan | October 26, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Campbell cant fire em up.. No leadership skills... Cant teach that..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 26, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

that was an appropriate finish. the offense needs to straight show some pride. their nonchalance and depressed expressions just make me apathetic. even though the defense makes mistakes, it at least looks like they want to be there. everyone on offense collects a paycheck.

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | October 26, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Nothing to do but laugh at that last play. No words...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Rock bottom has never felt so bad.

Posted by: AllThatSkins | October 26, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert 2.0! When was the last time anyone was more excited about Bullets basketball?

Posted by: murphyz | October 26, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

This weeks big news:
"Daniel Snyder will announce that Vinny Cerrato will remain as GM for next 3 years."

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

JC CANNOT UNSEAT ANY STARTER IN THIS LEAGURE EXCEPT FOR JAMARCUS RUSSEL!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:23 PM

Well, now we know where to look for a trade...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

if they lose to the raiders then that will be the rock bottom...

Posted by: joek443 | October 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, those Skins are pathetic.

Fumbling on Fourth and Goal!

Just another reason to hate D.C.!

Posted by: DCSucks | October 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

You're down 17 in the second half and you putz around in the third quarter with terrible runs and dinks and dumps. Then, in the fourth, when you get the ball back, you show NO sense of urgency at all. Just casually stroll down the field as if a single TD will do you some good. My God. Show some friggin' emotion and move with some alacrity. AWFUL!

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

come on dude. this isn't rock bottom. that was like 5 weeks ago when we lost to detroit. this is just sad. because now we have a situation where we cant blame the coach, cause we dont know who that is. we can only blame the owner/GM. and that's like talking to a wall. so we're just helpless beings and this team is just helpless/careless/effortless.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

ergh
ergh
ergh
ergh
ergh

ppphhhppptttt

Posted by: sfskin | October 26, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

if they lose to the raiders then that will be the rock bottom...

Posted by: joek443 | October 26, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

WHEN they lose to the raiders then that will be the rock bottom...

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

A real shame...the D put in a pretty good game, minus the two long TDs. They give up 14 points and again get no help from the offense. Bummer...

Posted by: -swb | October 26, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins DO NOT HAVE THE TALENT ON OFFENSE TO COMPETE. It is that simple! FIRE CERRATO!!

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | October 26, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

top 5 Defense + bottom 5 offense = sorry football

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | October 26, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Skins are Pathetic LOSERS, NO HEART, weak aZZ SJK's

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | October 26, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I SWEAR TO FRIGGIN' GOD....

I WOULD NOT PLAY CAMPBELL ANOTHER DOWN!!!

I WOULD NOT PLAY ARE ANOTHER DOWN!!!!

I WOULD TRADE PORTIS FOR A PEPSI AND TWO RUBBERS

WHY CAN'T WE THROW THE BALL OUT OF OUR END ZONE?

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

hahahahaha wow. eagles will challenge here...

Posted by: -swb | October 26, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Seems like I saw this play a week or two ago? Hmmmm...no lessons learned in DC

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I predicted the Redskins winning in a blowout, but...gee, I guess I was optimistic.

I was wrong. The Redskins actually suck. I think it's possible that this season may get a lot worse. 2-5 now. How many more wins can we expect this season?

Where, oh where, is coach "4thfloor," to tell us it's time to be men, it's time to nut up or shut up, it's time to stop complaining and support front office decisions no matter what?

(Sigh)

Posted by: hithere1 | October 26, 2009 11:16 PM

Posted by: hithere1 | October 26, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

If I were D I'd walk into that locker room and tell the whole offense to eff off and that they'd better find their ba!!s in the next few days before they show back up at Ashburne. . . .

I say we call the Titans and see if they want to swap HCs. Just for SJKs and giggles.

Posted by: sfskin | October 26, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

SACKED again with 3:30 to play. Just stay down, Campbell, or take a knee. This game was over before it started.

Does anyone remember the good old days? Where even if the Skins lost a tight one they'd pound the crap out of you on both sides of the ball? At least we can hold on to the memories.

Posted by: cucafish | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

haha jaws and gruden are trying to be optimistic because they both know gruden will be the next coach here. Sheehan heard earlier today at some luncheon when Gruden used the word "we" when discussing something pertaining to the redskins.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

NOW starts the charge!!!

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas and Fred Davis having break out games.

Posted by: League-Source | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

F all of you who gave up on DT11!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

"I WOULD TRADE PORTIS FOR A PEPSI AND TWO RUBBERS"

me too, that has the makings of a half decent evening!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Really, what excuse to Cerrato have no for the poor offensive line? Is this not all on him, the insanely porous o-line?

What can he possibly say in his defense? What can possibly justify him keeping his job?

Posted by: -swb | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas would have had two TD's this game.... The playcalling is better... And thats a fact!! But the same ole players

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

That fumble on the 4th and goal play represents the futility of the Redskins. If you want to encapsulate what they've become that's the play.

Posted by: jiacinto | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

when they were showing the highlights of the eagles passrush you could easily see the WRs halfassing their routes even though they had no idea their QB was being pressured. that's very disheartening to watch as a fan.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Vinny = wormtongue. 2-11 on third tonight....

Near term soups fault, not Zorn's. Soup fatheads now 99 percent off excuse makers, get yours now!!!

Posted by: Realness1 | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

God losing to Dallas is GOING TO SUCK!!!


ERGH
ERGH
ERGH
ERGH
ERGH
ERGH

Posted by: sfskin | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Gruden won his SB with Dungy's defense.. I don't have a CLUE why everyone seems to think he's a genius..

Posted by: joek443 | October 26, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Glad I didn't go to this game, no wonder no other skins fans wanted my tickets. I was trying to give them away.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 26, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

It's going to get worse this season. 2-5 now, with a slew of tough games.

Anyone hoping for a miraculous turnaround this season should put down the crackpipe.

The Eagles are trading yards for time right now, leading to this garbage red zone drive. But I liked Devin Thomas' fight on his reception this drive.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Dudes, the time for all-caps and exclamation marks is past. The fire is out.

It is a time for despond, murmurs of sadness, and the grim Groundhog Day horror of realizing that Danny Snyder is going to be the Skins owner my entire life.

Imagine the future: Danny S. grinding the next Zorn and the next big free agent into our faces again and again and again . . .

Posted by: farstriker | October 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

c'mon curz...garbage time...

Yeah know Gruden does sound like he is scouting tonight....his comments have sounded like a dude considering the gig....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

when they were showing the highlights of the eagles passrush you could easily see the WRs halfassing their routes even though they had no idea their QB was being pressured. that's very disheartening to watch as a fan.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

That's usually how Moss runs his routes anyway. No change, really.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

lol but the person selling the 2 rubbers and Pepsi would demand more, and Snyderrato would throw in a 1st and 2nd rounder to make it sweet.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

c'mon curz...garbage time...

Yeah know Gruden does sound like he is scouting tonight....his comments have sounded like a dude considering the gig....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 26, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

THE REDSKINS WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER GAME...
BOOK IT!!!!

DEVIN THOMAS AND FRED DAVIS HAVE MORE CATCHES THIS GAME THAN THEIR ENTIRE CAREER...

I SWEAR I WOULD NOT KEEP ONE PLAYER ON THIS MUTHAFUGGIN OFFENSE...I MIGHT TRADE COOLEY FOR A 1ST OR 2ND ROUNDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't think I can watch any more games. It sucks to never have anything to brag about at work. It sucks to always have the Cowboy, Giant, Steeler, Patriot, and every other good team's fan laugh every Monday or Tuesday. Go Caps!

Posted by: jiacinto | October 26, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

agreed on gruden CL...

dude wants this gig really badly...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 26, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Dealer-I also noticed that Gruden seemed to be auditioning for the job.

Are they really playing Hail to the Redskins under these circumstances?

Posted by: jiacinto | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

SLEEEEEEEEEEPY!!!!!!

Apologies, Farstriker.

Posted by: SoCal_SkinsFan | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Skins have played hard but just are not as good a team as Philly.

The defense and particularly D Line look good.

The receivers from the 2008 draft are finally showing signs of life.

The O Line, QB play and special teams are just awful.

Posted by: jksesq1 | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

One good thing is.. we are atleast seeing some youth doing something.....

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Nice celebration Fred Davis....congrats on your "breakout game"

Posted by: chrislarry | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Garbage time - Strike up the band "Like Hoovers on the warpath, we'll suck for ooooldd D.C.!"

Posted by: cucafish | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

yeah cL, but what else do I have?

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

At least its not a blow-out. Hate to say it to the Cooley fans but I think old Sleepy looks better and he is the better blocker ...

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

IMAGINE THAT!!!!!

TWO TOUCHDOWNS TO TWO OF OUR 2008 DRAFT PICKS....

PLAYCALLING HAS BEEN BETTER...WITH INFERIOR PERSONNEL!!!!!

NO WAY IN HELL ZORN WOULD HAVE DAVIS OR THOMAS IN THIS GAME THIS LONG!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay. I feel like we've solve the play-calling. Nothing can stop us now!

Posted by: League-Source | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

LOsing our next 5 as well. 2-10 here we come!!!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

playcalling in the redzone this game has for sure been better. i know the eagles were playing prevent, but...you can't really play prevent d from your own two yard line. something positive i guess

Posted by: -swb | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay an on-sides kick quick strike downfield and another onsides kick. . . .I can't even type that with a straight face.

Posted by: sfskin | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

stop celebrating garbage tds!!!!! arrggggh

Posted by: braker19cleartheline | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

F all of you who gave up on DT11!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse


Um, yeah.

What were those naysayers thinking?

Tonight, Vinny has proven himself quite the genius, thanks to Devon Thomas.

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

John Gruden is the next coach of the Washington Redskins!

Book it!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

this might sound stupid, but i honestly dont have a problem with the playcalling today. Campbell scrambles left and gets chased and fumbles. Campbell misses Moss on a perfect slant n go when he pumpfakes and doesnt follow-up. ARE muff. our D-linemen not falling on a fumble when it lies ont he ground for 5 seconds.
all costly mistakes that good teams dont make. those 5 plays cost us probably 20 points, cause eagles dont get their 2nd Jackson TD if JC hits moss.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

At least its not a blow-out. Hate to say it to the Cooley fans but I think old Sleepy looks better and he is the better blocker ...

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

You think Fred Davis is a better blocker?? Is that a serious comment? Are you watching this game? No way that's true at all.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

agreed on gruden CL...

dude wants this gig really badly...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 26, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I'd give the gig to Chuckly the doll if it meant that Cerrato gets fired as well.

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

there have been reports that Gruden has said privately that he won't get involved with a team that doesn't have a franchise QB becasue he learned his lesson in Tampa...

but then again if Snyder throws enough money at him... I think it would be a HUGE mistake to go after him, his offense never did much in tampa.. the only time he had a decent offense was when he had Rich Gannon in oakland

Posted by: joek443 | October 26, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

gruden as hc=norv years all over!

Posted by: dealer1 | October 26, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Gruden is our new coach...he has said nothing all night long. It is official!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Indeed. By my reckoning, we actually won. I'm chalking it up that way in my Redskins memory book.

Posted by: farstriker | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Vinny passed on DeSean Jackson..Twice..arr gh

How can Snyder sit at this game and not know that? Or care?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

At least its not a blow-out. Hate to say it to the Cooley fans but I think old Sleepy looks better and he is the better blocker ...

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse


Wow.

8 catches and a TD, and suddenly Fred Davis is a better TE than Chris Cooley.

All this losing really is taking its toll on some of us...

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

well, i guess 2 positives in this game are sleepy davis and DT11. both catching TDs. I hope Cooley is not hurt seriously, but i certainly would not mind if he's held out of a few games because this is a lost season. let's give davis some experience so he can become like Martellus Bennett in for the cowpukes.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Glad we switched play callers. Problems solved.

Posted by: nixx46 | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

You think Fred Davis is a better blocker?? Is that a serious comment? Are you watching this game? No way that's true at all.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009

***YOU*** haven't been paying attention now have you? Its one of the reasons he was drafted so high and drafted by the Redskins? He was considered the best blocker of all the pass catching tight ends in college. Superior skills especially in run blocking. Cooley's blocking is always ranked as substandard.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Fire Cerrotten apple !

Posted by: ThrowItToMyTeam | October 26, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Ah-ha I figured it out!

Vinny strips Zorn of playcalling in effort to try and 'expose' JC meanwhile calling Jeff Garcia for bye week signing and possible Gruden hire.

Posted by: sfskin | October 26, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I'd give the gig to Chuckly the doll if it meant that Cerrato gets fired as well.

Posted by: p1funk

Gruden might be the only big name coach that could not demand that.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Not play calling... it's personnel... FIRE CERRATO!!

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

@periculum

Davis has looked terrible in pass protection all evening long. He has been bad, bad, bad. Doesn't mean he can't improve, but tonight he his protection was suspect.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

8 catches and a TD, and suddenly Fred Davis is a better TE than Chris Cooley.

Maybe? Its hard to tell. All I know is that Cooley seemed to have a difficult time catching those 1 yard TD passes that Davis just caught. Now hasn't he. And YES Davis IS the superior blocker.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

IMAGINE THAT!!!!!

TWO TOUCHDOWNS TO TWO OF OUR 2008 DRAFT PICKS....

PLAYCALLING HAS BEEN BETTER...WITH INFERIOR PERSONNEL!!!!!

NO WAY IN HELL ZORN WOULD HAVE DAVIS OR THOMAS IN THIS GAME THIS LONG!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse


YEAH!

LOSING WITH OUR 2008 DRAFT PICKS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN LOSING WITHOUT THEM!!!!

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

our defense held philly to just 2 TDs. the other 13 points were direct results of turnovers made in own territory.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Interesting tweet from riggo44:

"u can't convince me that McNabb outplayed Campbell...flip flop em and who's the winning QB???? Answer not as apparent as one might think."

Posted by: farstriker | October 26, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Can't watch Campbell anymore. It's so painful. And Gruden said he can't audible??? Why? WTF?

Posted by: nixx46 | October 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

The most upsetting thing to me tonight is that it appears as if Gruden is going to be our next coach. THAT SUCKS!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | October 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

All this losing really is taking its toll on some of us...

Posted by: p1funk |

some of us can't take off our burgundy glasses. what can we say...

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Did we win?

Posted by: Gweez | October 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Zorn should've just read a book or magazine on the sidelines. Looked lost out there

JC looks great down by 2 tds. Soft coverage, lots of pass blocking. He must be a superb practice QB.

Posted by: cucafish | October 26, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

@periculum

Davis wasn't good in protection tonight. There's really not much room for debate there, either.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

***YOU*** haven't been paying attention now have you? Its one of the reasons he was drafted so high and drafted by the Redskins? He was considered the best blocker of all the pass catching tight ends in college. Superior skills especially in run blocking. Cooley's blocking is always ranked as substandard.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse


***YOU*** have clearly not been watching the game. Did someone inform the Eagles that Davis was such a great pass-blocker? Maybe someone forgot to pass the memo onto them they way they were running by him tonight.

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

there is NO QUICK FIX for this team... It is not just play calling or JC, it is also the O-line, the perimeter skill players and RB depth.

FIRE CERRATO!! and start rebuilding your Offense!

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | October 26, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Davis has looked terrible in pass protection all evening long. He has been bad, bad, bad. Doesn't mean he can't improve, but tonight he his protection was suspect.

According to Scouts Cooley is decidedly worst. And Davis has a much greater upside.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

if you strictly want a guy who can improve the offense, they might as well go after Mike Martz... he has much better offensive mind than Chuckee

Posted by: joek443 | October 26, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

JC had good stats in the last 4 minutes. Should look good in his overall rating...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 26, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Now officially on our way to 3-13 or 2-14...

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 26, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Give Davis a 14 jersey and let him play QB. Couldn't do any worse

Posted by: cucafish | October 26, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

***YOU*** have clearly not been watching the game. Did someone inform the Eagles that Davis was such a great pass-blocker? Maybe someone forgot to pass the memo onto them they way they were running by him tonight.

Davis' strength is run blocking. Something sorely lacking on this line. With considerable potential and upside for pass blocking and receiving. Something Cooley lacks. He was after all drafted as an H-Back by Gibbs.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Davis has looked terrible in pass protection all evening long. He has been bad, bad, bad. Doesn't mean he can't improve, but tonight he his protection was suspect.

According to Scouts Cooley is decidedly worst. And Davis has a much greater upside.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse


Really??

It's a good thing Scouts is here to set the record straight.

I guess we get do-overs on all those plays where Davis got burned by pass-rushers.

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I think this team has been doing a lot of illegal touching.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

If we had that playcalling in the past two games we would have WON those games.. and thats a FACT!!

Posted by: cocodc1 | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

AS MUCH AS THE 0-LINE IS RIPPED AND IT SHOULD...WHY WON'T COMCAST RIP JC FOR HOLDING THE BALL TOO LONG....MNF CREW DID!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

@periculum

Your argument is unraveling. According to Scouts Inc, eh? Well, I think we've watched Cooley and Davis, and you can't tell me that Davis has been better? He does not seem interested in blocking. Sure, he could have upside, but that doesn't account for a damn thing, particularly on a night when the Eagles beat the crud out of him while rushing to hit Campbell.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Campbell and JaMarcus Russell are interchangable

Posted by: nixx46 | October 26, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Davis didn't lose this game. Four turnovers did. Besides this is Davis first real start ... first game? How about Heyer he should be a much better blocker by now? Who do you think has the better chance to improve? Heyer or Davis? I'll pick Davis.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Steve Young eviscerating Campbell. Deservedly. Campbell blew billy goat gruff tonight, and asked for seconds.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 26, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

***YOU*** have clearly not been watching the game. Did someone inform the Eagles that Davis was such a great pass-blocker? Maybe someone forgot to pass the memo onto them they way they were running by him tonight.

Davis' strength is run blocking. Something sorely lacking on this line. With considerable potential and upside for pass blocking and receiving. Something Cooley lacks. He was after all drafted as an H-Back by Gibbs.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse


Nice analysis.

Considerable potential and upside to learn blocking should unseat our current 2 time Pro Bowl tight end.

By that logic, I have even more potential and upside than Davis and Cooley...maybe I should get the starting gig, eh?

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Playcalling was fine.

Jason Campbell sucks. He can't read a defense and just misses way too many opportunities. Whether it be with inaccurate passes or just not being aware of opportunities.

Our offensive line sucks, but Campbell still had opportunities to get big plays.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 26, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

account for a damn thing, particularly on a night when the Eagles beat the crud out of him while rushing to hit Campbell.

Of course Heyer, Big Mike, W. Montgomery, etc. with his holding calls had nothing to do with that?

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

JC threw for 284 and 2 TDs/1 INT. that's a 91.61 rating.

Posted by: kman2 | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Jaws saying practice was not popping this week.

Sounds like a lack of energy and urgency among players. Needs a tough attitude, this team. Now BMitchell is saying the same.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

@periculum

No one is saying Davis lost this game. (Where did you get that idea?) But you can't come on here after one night of football and make the claim that Davis is somehow a better TE than Cooley. Their bodies of work don't match up AT ALL. You can hate on Heyer if you want because he's terrible. But you honestly think Davis would do a better job than Heyer? Don't see that happening, but it's a pointless discussion to have anyway.

Posted by: CDon | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Davis didn't lose this game. Four turnovers did. Besides this is Davis first real start ... first game? How about Heyer he should be a much better blocker by now? Who do you think has the better chance to improve? Heyer or Davis? I'll pick Davis.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse


Are you drunk or something?

Is Davis auditioning for the left tackle spot?

Is Heyer a tight end?

Am I drunk?

Posted by: p1funk | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Put JaMarcus in Baltimore and he would be all-pro.

Posted by: periculum | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

And STILL 6 teams with worse records than us! Pitiful. We're just not doing our best to get that # 1 pick.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Broken right foot for Cooley. I guess we'll find out a lot more about Davis.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 26, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

THere's a reason you don't see many Auburn QBs in the NFL

Posted by: cucafish | October 26, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Cooley has broken foot according CSN's Strawberry Shortcake.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 27, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

LOL that was a joke. JC sucks. he's a horrible QB.

Posted by: kman2 | October 27, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

AW C'CMON ZORN!!!!

"THE RESULT WAS THE SAME"!!!!

WTF DID YOU DO "MEDIUM MAN"

DON'T GLOAT BIT*H!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 27, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I hope Cooley is well, but if I were him I would not hurry back and risk any further injury this season is done. Time to sit ARE, DT11 flashed some talent he can make things happen after the catch. If MK12 is not healthy sit him and bring in Marko. This season is lost lets see what the younguns can do.

The snap on 4th down by Rabach was pitiful, can Edwin Williams play? lets find out.

How in the world do you let someone get behind you on a 3rd and 28. Carlos Rodgers gives up a huge play for every average play he makes and he could not catch a cold in February if his life depended on it. Time for more on the job training can the kid from Maryland play (Barnes) lets find out. Tryon will never be more than a nickel back because he is too small a Darell Green he is not. He is filling the nickel back role adequately thus far.

Stephon Heyer tries real hard but he is not LT material hopefully LJ can get up to speed by next game. It is too bad that Colt Brennan was hurt this year because this would have been a great year for some more on the job training.

Campbell makes too many bad decisions, he has Moss wide open for a TD and he rushes a throw back over the middle to ARE that is poorly thrown for an incomplete. You get those chances infrequently and you have to make them count, JC17 seems to always make the wrong decision or is too slow to make the correct one. From the time he cocks and throws it takes almost 1.5 seconds way too slow for the NFL. Hopefully he plays better down the stretch and increases his trade value.

According to Gruden we have 17 playes over 30!!!! Half of them need to go, time to blow this thing up, I only hope it is an uncapped year so that we can clean-up the roster. Providing Snyder is smart enough to dump VINNNY CERATO!!!!!

Posted by: m_p_holmes | October 27, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Gruden is not the answer. He does not have the temperament for long term success, a la Gibbs, Belichick, Dungy or Cowher. He wore out his welcome in Oakland and Tampa Bay, yet kinda fits Snyder's short-term mentality and focus for success.

If the offensive line can develop some competence, this team could win 1-2 more games, but I still don't see anything better than 4-12 or 5-11. JC will not be a successful quarterback here, so his best shot is play his best for the rest of the year to help himself wherever else he goes.

Mike Martz is a great offensive mind, who runs a system from the Don Coryell-Joe Gibbs tree. He's not a great head coach. This fascination with the West Coast offense totally misses the priorities of a head coach. A head coach's job is to inspire great play from every player, and let his assistants dictate the 'systems' they run. Gibb's offense was revolutionary at the time, but his greatest asset was inspiring guys to play hard and play well: this made him successful for 10 years. Of the 'name' coaches out there, I'd go with Cowher before Gruden or Shannahan. My personal favorite is Grimm, because he WOULD NOT tolerate a lousy offensive line, and would be willing to delegate the offensive 'system' to his o-coordinator.

Posted by: pdfordiii | October 27, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

In examining Gruden's comments about JC, I thinks in the final analysis he likes him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | October 27, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

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