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A Rough Start to a New Season

This so-called make-or-break season for Coach Jim Zorn and quarterback Jason Campbell got started with a 23-17 loss at the New York Giants. Struggling to find a rhythm on offense until the game's waning minutes, coaches will likely spot a lot of areas for improvement when they gather to review film.

The Redskins' No. 1 receiver, Santana Moss, finished with just 6 yards on 2 receptions. Midway through the final quarter, Moss had just one catch for minus-2 yards. Clinton Portis led Washington on the ground, rushing for 62 yards on 16 carries. Antwaan Randle El, who was replaced in the starting lineup by Malcolm Kelly and lined up in the slot much of the afternoon, led the team with 98 yards on seven receptions.

Always a subject for scrutiny, quarterback Jason Campbell finished the game 19-for-26 for 211 yards and a touchdown. He also had an interception and lost a fumble. For comparison, Eli Manning went 20-for-29 passing for 256 yards. He also had a touchdown and an interception.

While the final quarter began as just a one-possession game, the Giants' hit a 45-yard field goal at the 11:03 mark to make it 20-10. It should've been a tougher kick - a 50-yarder, in fact. On third-and-eight from the 32 yard line, Eli Manning threw an incomplete pass, but the play was negated because defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth jumped offsides. Manning again threw an incomplete pass on third down, but the flag had already moved the Giants five yards closer and the damage was done.

The Redskins' offense failed to get a first down on their next possession and then the Giants turned in a clock-eating drive that went 66 yards in 10 plays and 6:11, capped by another Tynes' field goal. With only three minutes remaining, Washington trailed 23-10 .
The Redskins' needed just 1:42 to respond with its first offensive score of the season - a 17-yard touchdown pass from Campbell to tight end Chris Cooley (the first time the pair hooked up for a score since the 2007 season).

Trailing 23-18 and with just 1:30 remaining, the Redskins unsuccessfully attempted an onside kick.

The Giants finished with 351 net yards of offense, while the Redskins finished with 272. Though the Giants were 5-of-8 on third conversions in the first half, they finished the game 6-of-13.

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By Rick Maese  |  September 13, 2009; 7:10 PM ET
 
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Frustrating, just frustrating.......

Posted by: nwoking | September 13, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Plays that cost the team the game:

1. The sack that led to the fumble touchdouwn.
2. Burning the timeouts early in the 3rd quarter.
3. Campbell throwing that other INT in the 2nd quarter instead of just running out of bounds.
3. Failing to take advantage of the DeAngelo Hall INT to get a touchdown.
4. The Santana Moss botched play early in the 1st quarter after the Portis run.
5. Repeating the same plays over and over again hoping for the same result.

So, again, as I analyze the loss, the Redskins lost the game because of stupid mistakes. They could very well have won this game but their offense failed to do anything.

The Giants dominated all aspects of the game. Their only fault is that they somehow allowed the Redskins to stay in the game. On their end a 23-17 win, while a win is still a win, should have been 30-10 win. But that doesn't matter because they still won.

The play of the game: The Campbell sack that resulted in that NYG touchdown.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 13, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Campbell wasn't perfect but he wasn't horrible when he threw it. Lots of bad playcalling on Zorn. Why a WR reverse on the 2nd play of the game? There were a number of others...

Defense got ripped by Eli...seriously, Eli? Blache should have fun this week.

Posted by: svxcountry1 | September 13, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Players that performed well: ARE, O line for the most part, and Haynesworth (good job against the run)

Players that performed like hot garbage: JC, whole secondary, DE's.

But the award for most crappy goes to Zorn. The middle of the field was open all day yet he continued to try to run the ball EVERY first down. The Giants knew what was coming on EVERY first down. LOL, It was funny seeing Zorn look at his playcall sheet, I wonder if there was anything on it? Super Tecmo Bowl had more diverse plays then Zorn's "West Toast Offense".

Posted by: ga8085 | September 13, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Before you completely bash the D, remember that they kept us in the game early with a couple of pretty solid stands deep.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | September 13, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout that checkdown by Campbell on 3rd and 8 to a run. Brilliant.

Posted by: TBDog | September 13, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Zorn can not call a game. And Jason Campbell does not know how to play the quarterback position. It's time to move on and find a new one. I see no progress in JC, and the front office didn't see it longgggg time ago. JC is a scared quarterback.. and portis' days are long behind him...

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Same start as last year...except this year they won't win 8 games....6-10 at best. At least we can have Shanahan coaching next year and No campbell. Thank god

Posted by: mmz114 | September 13, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Shocker, skins will not be elite until the owner is gone. He thinks his elite bizznis skills results in wins, we can tell he knows nothing about winning.

Posted by: rb_rivers | September 13, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Worst play calling always loses

Posted by: jonthefisherman | September 13, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

what jim zorn should say during his post game comments "right now i feel like the worst coach in america"

Posted by: james808d | September 13, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Hall and the rest of the secondary looked horrible! What is with these cushions? The Giants cast of clown receivers with no experience had all the space in the world, made us miss repeatedly. Just awful. Laron Landry makes us really miss Sean Taylor. The guy is a flying bullet that often completely misses his target. More of the same from last year really...shoddy defense when you need it the most. Giants controlled the ball in 4th quarter.

On offense, Campbell looked terrified. Zorn was equally awful in his playcalling. He manages to put his offense in horrible situations time after time by calling at least one play on each series that goes for negative or zero yards.. The first quarter he caused the giants score by refusing to allow JC to throw the ball on the possession that started from the 1 yrd line.

Posted by: dcsportsfan4 | September 13, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Zorn can not call a game. And Jason Campbell does not know how to play the quarterback position. It's time to move on and find a new one. I see no progress in JC, and the front office didn't see it longgggg time ago. JC is a scared quarterback.. and portis' days are long behind him...

So, question to everybody: How many more games do we have to play until you are sure JC is not the answer? Or are you already sure??

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey was there really much play-action called? I don't seem to recall a lot.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | September 13, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Really disappointed by the lack of dynamic offensive plays, and the defenses poor tackiling. The play calling was strange to me on both sides of the ball. IMO they'll get it corrected, just like last year, but this performance was not what I expected.

Posted by: TWISI | September 13, 2009 7:14 PM |

Posted by: TWISI | September 13, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

And MeAngelo Hall's celebration after being beaten and being lucky enough to catch a can-o-corn creampuff of an interception caused by a nice safety play to bail him out. What a jerk. The guy can't cover my grandma.

Posted by: TBDog | September 13, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Zorn can not call a game. And Jason Campbell does not know how to play the quarterback position. It's time to move on and find a new one. I see no progress in JC, and the front office didn't see it longgggg time ago. JC is a scared quarterback.. and portis' days are long behind him...

So, question to everybody: How many more games do we have to play until you are sure JC is not the answer? Or are you already sure??

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I've seen enough of Jason Campbell. He doesn't have it....period!

I don't care how many yards he puts up against the Rams.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Campbell sucks. Flat out sucks.

The sack and fumble that got returned for TD is all on Campbell.. NO awareness

You want to know how little awareness he has, he doesn't even know he's over the line of scrimmage on teh int he threw. he could have easily just picked up the first down with a slide...but nope INT for him

He's so scared to throw the ball that he check out of a pass into a run. Brilliant

Just release him. Don't give him a new contract. No other team in the NFL would

Now you know why vinny and danny wants anyone else other than campbell to be qb.

Posted by: mmz114 | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

The score really didn't tell the story. It felt like 30-3 Giants.

Cowboys 1-0
Giants 1-0
Eagles 1-0
Redskins 0-1

Our D is overrated!!! So soft!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the score felt worse than it was. But this is game 1, and I'll still give Jason all 16 games this season. I'd like to see a rythm.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if we run it ONE TIME, against the rams, throw the gash-dang ball, its a gash dang passing league...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Still no No. 2 receiver; the Giants smartly took Moss out of the game. ARE played well but he's simply too small. Cooley is Cooley - excellent receiver over the middle. But Moss and Cooley - as we've seen the past 3-4 years can't do it by themselves.

Haynesworth was mediocre at best. The Giants did tire him out; he signed the big contract and didn't get in shape. Not good.

Giants are just flat out a better team. And will get better.

Unless Kelly or Thomas step up, this team offensively is, once again, in trouble.

Posted by: SteveMG | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

This team is pathetic..PERIOD!

Posted by: JCB9 | September 13, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

TBDog- That is the most frustrating thing with this team. I'm so embarrassed sometimes to be a fan. What they heck are our players thinking? Randle El celebrating after a first down catch, Hall celebrating after INT. Are you serious? We are still down 10 points!! Stop acting like you won the super bowl. I never saw the Giants celebrate like that. Seriously, this team needs to be coached better. It's embarrassing seeing our players celebrating when we're down 10 points and look like CRAP!

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Zorn looks spent and at a loss!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | September 13, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

So, question to everybody: How many more games do we have to play until you are sure JC is not the answer? Or are you already sure??

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

If Zorn starts calling plays that are not retarded, and JC is still looking like crap, then its a wrap.

Posted by: ga8085 | September 13, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

steve there was 1 pass to Kelly. 1. Seriously, thats on the coach...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Jesus, put your opinion on Campbell aside. The man was 19-26, 211 yds, and a 93.6 QB rating (higher than Eli's). He was out of sync and it didn't look pretty but he didn't play terrible. The play calling was absolutely horrawful. You have to put your players in position to make plays, and that did not happen today.

People need to stop posting with their emotions and use their heads a little bit! Things will be MUCH improved against the Rams. If not, then we can talk..

Posted by: dfresh58 | September 13, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Zorn needs to tap someone else to call plays. Fire himself si he can focus on actually headcoaching the team. Playcalling blows.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 13, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE F'ING GAME.....APPARENTLY ZORN HASN'T FIGURED THAT ASPECT OUT YET

Posted by: hillb03 | September 13, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

See what Eli Manning had to say to the media today.

Q: You had such a good comfort level with Plaxico and Amani, how different has it been for you this summer?
A: There are a lot of new faces out there. We have some rookies who are up to par on what’s going on. But we still have guys who have been here, guys who have played and started and know the offense well. It’s a matter of adjusting to do what they do well, run the routes that they feel comfortable with and do best.

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Look at what BBM says about his WRs. Zorn could use some coaching from Eli!!

We did/are not using our WRs or Davis in O playcalling. Zorn sucks!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 13, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

and will JC please get rid of the ball in timely manner rather then holding like a freaking baby that needs babysitting

Posted by: hillb03 | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

steve there was 1 pass to Kelly. 1. Seriously, thats on the coach...

Or was it his inability to get open? He caught one pass; how many plays were called his way?

Hard to tell, obviously, from the screen.

They took Moss out of the game. That left Kelly in single coverage.

Posted by: SteveMG | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

The play of the game was that sack that the NYG ran back for a TD. Coupled with a mediocre offensive and the inability to turn the D'Angelo Hall INT into a TD in the 3rd quarter, the team was going to lose.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is NOT PISSED OFF ENOUGH after this game. Tune into Comcast asap for his postgame

Posted by: dfresh58 | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

OK. So 1 down, 15 to go with the easy part (if there is such a thing with these guys coming up. I better not see the DB's (who are wimps at tackling like a certain Mr. Deion Sanders was once)going over board in celebration should they win any of these upcoming games. Until they can play smart, intense, and act like Pro football players, they will never gain any respect around the league. This goes for the coaches play calling as well. You might as well write up 20 trick plays to use and use them every game. It would at least make watching more entertaining. There's no more excuses boys. It's put up or shut up. If I was running the team; it would be preform and produce or you will not be on this team. The players want respect. You first have to earn it. Not to the fan first necessarily but to yourselves and then the team. You have to be willing to sacrifice everything on the field or you will not be worthy to be called a winning team.

Posted by: awebb004 | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Still predicting 3-1 at the quarter pole...i counted this game as a loss.

The extremely frustrating part is i don't feel like the Redskins competed well today. Players missed tackles, didn't make plays, and the offensive and defensive play calling sucked equally. Well not equally. 1st and goal followed by portis left no gain, portis left no gain, time out, incomplete throw away because everyone is covered can not be matched in complete ineptitude. That's peeweesque.

Good news for Zorn and JC: Brennan is already on the IR list and nobody even knows the practice squad guy.

And despite how horrible redskins planned, called and played, this game was actually winnable midway through the 4th.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"The man was 19-26, 211 yds, and a 93.6 QB rating (higher than Eli's). "

Did you actualyl watch the game? 99 out of 100 viewers would have taken Eli today over JC. Numbers can lie, JC looked terrible and a ton of that rating came while the Giants were playing prevent at the end.

Posted by: james808d | September 13, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get where you guys think JC was horrible. His stats were almost identical to Eli's. Fickle, Fickle, fans. The Giants D was lights out. How about that was the problem, along with some lame duck play calling.

Things I did notice:

Portis has lost a step.
Deangelo Hall looked lost at times.
Zorn's play calling was odd at times.
The Giants look really good.

No reason to hang the season up after one game. I don't think anyone expected a win in New York. We will be three and one after week four.

Posted by: paulb3rd | September 13, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if we run it ONE TIME, against the rams, throw the gash-dang ball, its a gash dang passing league...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 13, 2009 7:21 PM

Thank you Greg. The Giants were riped for the skins to attack their secondary. This offense will not progress until other teams become concerned about the skins passing attack.

Posted by: TWISI | September 13, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

TBdog:

Second that take on HALL. But SNYDER was hot to have him, and I said so two seasons back on a FALCONS blog I follow. Well, he got his wish. Congrats 'SKINS fans.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 13, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

paulb3rd- You are looking at STATS. STATS do not tell the story. If you watched, you would see. Please do not let stats sway you the wrong way. Anyone who watch saw that Campbell was horrible. He held the ball too long and is so indecisive. He even threw the ball after he crossed the line of scrimmage and threw a pick when he should've thrown it away. The fumble was on JC, the line gave him time there and he couldn't make up his mind.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Did you actualyl watch the game? 99 out of 100 viewers would have taken Eli today over JC. Numbers can lie, JC looked terrible and a ton of that rating came while the Giants were playing prevent at the end.

Posted by: james808d | September 13, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

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My man, the play calling was TERRIBLE and JC was not put in a position to have success. I never said he played well; simply, he did not play THAT poorly. The only play I can think of where he really F'ed up was not stepping up in the pocket on the Osi forced fumble and return for a TD.

Posted by: dfresh58 | September 13, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

This is the exact same Redskins team we saw last year. No production from our second round picks.... Campbell is a shaky No.2 QB in this league....Carlos Rogers still drops INTs...One can only hope for the Rams to come into town....OH Thats right, they beat us last year! Crap

Posted by: jeremy5508 | September 13, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Should have read: "The only play I can think of where he really BADLY F'ed up was not stepping up in the pocket on the Osi forced fumble and return for a TD.

Posted by: dfresh58 | September 13, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Plays that cost the game for the Redskins:

Snyder buys team and acts like he knows football;

Snyder hires Cerrato to be GM and acts like he knows football;

Snyder and Cerrato hire Zorn and he acts like he knows football.

Posted by: Ireland2 | September 13, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

No reason to hang the season up after one game. I don't think anyone expected a win in New York. We will be three and one after week four.
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The Chiefs played very well against the Ravens today and held their own, even though they lost. Detroit put 27 points their loss to the Saints. Only the Rams stunk up the joint. But I think that it's foolhardy to think that both KC and DET will be easy wins. Both teams, especially if they are winless, will be out for blood.

Posted by: jiacinto | September 13, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is SINGLE HANDEDLY destroying the memory of Sean Taylor.

Redskins fans always come fired up remembering Sean and all we have to talk about is Jason Campbell stinking up the joint.

If we were winning we could be waving the 21 towels and showing all the great clips os 21 destroying everybody.

Posted by: COLUMBIASKINS | September 13, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

uh, make that 100/100 would have taken Eli in this game. it wasn't even close, and it was ugly. But JC didn't do everything poorly, and there are some good things to build on over the next few weeks.

And please, please, please I hope someone asks Blache about the pass rush lol!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 13, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

dfresh58 -- I have to disagree. Granted the play calling sucked, but JC simply did not make plays that you have to make if you want to win. The pass protection was adequate, he has to make some throws when they count, not just in garbage time. When it counted, the yardage came on dumps off where a receiver broke free, there were no successful long passes in the entire first half that i can remember.

Posted by: james808d | September 13, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

REPOST of half-time and end of game tales. Looks like most of you agree with me.

Half-time:

Let's see. I said special teams and the o-line would determine the game. Chaulk up seven for the teams, and the o-line has performed very well. So why are our heroes down by 10?

1- That #1 draft pick for next year hasn't been put in the defensive backfield, namely CB. I knew 'LOS would not play and that HALL and SMOOT would let us down.

2- Too much time and an unawareness of onrushing linemen. CAMPBELL puts the ball on the ground instead of moving in the pocket. The day of the statuesque q-back is gone. I am right there with SNYDER and CERRATO - now, I wasn't at all before. I see what they were driving at. I was willing to give JASON the benefit of the doubt, but he's asking the o-line to hold out d-lineman too long. Decisions, decisions, decisions, made too slow. And I don't think it will improve much.

3- Coaching. Keep going to the well until you get burned. Where's the back-up when ARE and COOLEY are covered? Where's KELLY or MITCHELL? Lets put some pressure on those d-backs with some striders with height like the G-men are doing to our CB's.

END OF GAME:

Hey, we lose. What's new? And by the score I anticipated in the poll - dammit!!!! I hate being right.

Next year, DON'T PANIC. Stay the course. Replace SUISHAM with an elite FA kicker, draft a #1 CB, draft a #2 o-tackle, a #4 o-tackle, cut CARTWRIGHT and let MASON play in his place.

Keep CAMPBELL until ZORN is gone whenever that is or by 2011 at the latest, then bring in SHANAHAN if he's still around. Wouldn't surprise me if he isn't on a REDSKINS retainer already. In 2011, draft a #1 Q-back, FA runner, cut BETTS, and go from there.

This defense is fine other than CB. By the end of the season, they should be a beast. Meanwhile SHAWN SPRINGS, D.C. turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 13, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

We lost this game because our o-line is line swiss cheese and Campbell has absolutely zero trust in them. And why should he when he knows somehow our front office thinks Mike Williams is qualified to play in this league. Compare JC's numbers with Eli's and you'll be shocked how similar they are. But Eli looks relaxed while JC was running for his life.

It's great to want to improve the #4 defence but our primary need from last year was the o-line. And what did we do? Dockery (average at best) and Mike Williams.

Posted by: tundey | September 13, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

There was a lot of poor play on both sides of the Skins.. but D. Hall really stood out for his poor tackling, loose coverage, and crappy special teams play. A few people played well at times, London Fletcher, K. Golston, ARE had a good game; Landry made a great play on the interception, clearly the stand-out play of the game. But in general, there was little that is worth mentioning. The defense was starting a rookie LB and so I am sure they had some breakdowns because of it but the safety play, which is usually a strength of the defense was only average to below average. The O-line was average. Campbell needs to learn to step up in the pocket.. unbelievable that he was stripped with no-one in front of him. That one was clearly on Jason. It was a poor performance across the board (except ARE) and one good play by Landry,.

Posted by: iseyij | September 13, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

No offense to JC, (I happen to like the guy), but I'm starting to believe he just doesn't have it. But, without decent play calling, it makes it that much harder for him to succeed at quarterbacking. Plus, he requires a hell of alot more time to throw, (no protection). All and all, a horrendous game..

Posted by: t_in_hampton | September 13, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I really really feel for JC. He's going to turn into the next Patrick Ramsey. Remember him? Great arm but sacked so much becos of a bad o-line. Well it's deja vu all over again. It isn't sexy but if you can't protected the QB, you can't get all those fancy passing plays to work. The fact that Mike Williams made this team and he is active for week 1 is very telling.

Posted by: tundey | September 13, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Plays that cost the game for the Redskins:

Snyder buys team and acts like he knows football;

Snyder hires Cerrato to be GM and acts like he knows football;

Snyder and Cerrato hire Zorn and he acts like he knows football.

Posted by: Ireland2 | September 13, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

How do you give your QB an opportunity to make plays when your playcalling is 100% predictable?

This game is simple - they started out well, ARE F'd up on the 2nd play, JZ got extremely conservative.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | September 13, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

tundey-SO many excuses for JC. Okay, the Oline is not great, but it protected JC well today. That's all you can ask for. Don't talk about how he has no trust in the line. The line gave him time, and he couldn't make up his mind. He really wasn't scrambling around that much. He was scrambling because he was indecisive.

Like everyone else said, stats don't tell the story and most of the stats came when the giants were playing prevent and had a 2 possession lead.

Posted by: rachel216 | September 13, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

The team plays like it is waiting for something bad to happen and it usually does. Campbell played like a clown (plays scared), but the play calling was HORRENDOUS too. You know we had no first down passes after the second quarter until the fourth when we were down the whole game? And it's not like we were ripping off 5 yard runs. Run, Run, Pass. Run Run Pass. As predictable as humanly possible?! While the defense did not play well, they did not lose the game. Campbell and Zorn did. There was nothing in the offensive game plan that made any sense to me whatsoever.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 13, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Ireland2:

Good, very good. If it weren't so, so true I'd LOL!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 13, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

rachel216:

I don't think stats lie as much as you say today. That interception Eli threw was horrible. The fumble was on him. He didn't look spectacular.

The reason Campbell held the ball is because his crappy receivers still can't get open. He had Giants players in his face all day. Eli had all day to throw on most downs. I disagree completely.

What I fear. Jason is going to get run out of town and become a really good quarterback elsewhere. Remember Brad Johnson. Run straight out of town for good, but not great.

What did we end up with after that?

Remember, he won a super bowl.

Posted by: paulb3rd | September 13, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Call a timeout, the best play you can come up with on 3rd and 8 is a off tackle run when they put 8 on the line? Thats the best play in the book? Drives me crazy, that was a pivotal drive and they run. Come on Zorn

Posted by: jasonbrown20 | September 13, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Considering they were going against one of the best front sevens in the game, I think the O-line did pretty well. Campbell, on the other hand could not make a decision, when he did he was usually off target. I've never seen an NFL starter so consistently throw behind his receivers. At some point you'd thing he would make the adjustment, but I think it's because he doesn't see the play developing.

Even the coaching staff seems to have lost confidence in Campbell, giving up and running the ball on third and a mile rather that trying to convert through the air.

DHall has a terrible game! His one shining moment came on a play in which he'd been burned by a rookie receiver and Landry saved the day with the deflection. Because Hall was trailing the play by more than five yards he was in the perfect spot for the pick.

The over paid, over rated D line didn't get much pressure on Manning. I guess that's what you get when you have a tough, athletic O-line and a QB who can make quick decisions.

At the end of the season people will point to the six point differential and say this was a close game, but it was anything but.

Isn't there a wealthy and intelligent business person out there capable of wrestling control of the Redskins away from Snyder. This team will never be squat with him in the owners suite.

Posted by: tkoho | September 13, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Jim Zorn: Stop yelling at your players when you're the biggest problem on offense. This playcalling is beyond abysmal.

Oh and please end the Ladell Betts experiment immediately.

Posted by: messykat | September 13, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Yes, J. Cambell had the stats again--mirrors what the opposing QB usually gets, except for one...he lost

At the end of the day, this QB can't deliver the key plays when it's on the line.
And a coach needs to tell him to try running for a first down next time instead of throwing interceptions.

Posted by: wizard5 | September 13, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to take a deep breath and chill. Am I psyched by our effort? Of course not. It was about a D+ at best. But bottom line, we still only lost by 6 to maybe the best team in the NFL on the road, and it was Week 1. JC certainly needs to make more plays and Zorn needs to improve his play calling , I agree. But I don't get all this "JC/ZORN MUST GO" talk after one game. Give it time, it's a process. We still have a legit chance to be 3-1 in a few weeks. ARE looked good in the slot, the O-line was OK all things considered, and the D was acceptable (but the secondary, i.e., DHall, needs to get his head out of his backside). Not all bleak, Skins Nation. Breath deep.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 13, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

We need more blue collar players that are hungry. Take a tip from the Steelers. We need a speed guy on kickoff and punt returns. Cerrato, Zorn and Campbell are not the answer.

Posted by: kenobill | September 13, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Im done. I think Zorn is an interesting guy and probably a terrific QB coach, but the guy is in way over his head. He's trying to juggle too many pieces. Having never been a coordinator before is really hindering him. His tendencies were evident half way through last year and they are the same this year. 3 straight running plays backed up on your own goal line is telling the defense that you do not believe in your QB or your offense. Campbell is also a great guy, very nice and says all the right things. But I guarantee you he didn't rip any of his linemen for blowing blocks that resulted in sacks and his turnovers. He is soft...he does not have "it"...he is a pussycat trying to play with lions. You can tell by his body language on the field and in the huddle. Cerrato and Synder both know it, that is why they tried so hard to get Cutler and Sanchez...The Skins will beat the pants off of the Rams, but who cares? When they play any of the other elite teams in the league they will get beat. Grant it they will not be blown out, but they will lose and we will all be frustrated because we can point out the areas that need improvement. That's what is so frustrating - they have so much talent but they do not have a leader to guide and manage that talent. Until Synder concedes the footbal operation to men that know what they are doing and hold players accountable they will not go anywhere.

Posted by: ecjaustin | September 13, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

JC checked into a run on 3rd and 8!!!!

That's all you need to know about him. I love him and he's a great guy, but it's his 5th year and it's becoming more and more obvious he will be a backup in this league very soon....

Posted by: hender_22 | September 13, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Redskins is and remains not being able to take advantage of opportunities. Carlos Rodgers has a pass hit him in the hands if he catches that interception he might have returned it touchdown and the whole game changes. Eli did not look that great, when he is pressured he makes bad decisions.

Posted by: mpholmes | September 13, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

JC checked into a run on 3rd and 8!!!!

That's all you need to know about him. I love him and he's a great guy, but it's his 5th year and it's becoming more and more obvious he will be a backup in this league very soon....

Posted by: hender_22 | September 13, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

you Mr. Landry are NO TAYLOR. And you Mr. Hall, one int. doesnt offset for an awful game.

Posted by: arbano1 | September 13, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

This is some crap! Jim Zorn does not know how to call plays and when to call them. We had a HUGE run on our first play and next thing you know, the tricky comes. Then on second and 21 we RUNNING! That is not how you try to get those yards back! Then when the defense actually makes a turnover, we only get 3 with the sorry playing calling and of course the first play is a RUN! It doesn't make sense. We drafted 3 wide receivers two years ago and guess how many times Jason threw to them... ONCE! TO Kelly for 6 yards! He is ridiculously predictable. Last year, our line was horrible as far as protecting Jason on pass plays. This game, he got sacked 3 times. Once because he did not step up in the pocket and the fumble was returned for a touchdown and another was because of the dumb play calling as far as the routes for the receivers. I WANT A NEW COACH! The team does not play with urgency or energy. He does not play the chess game. 1st down is a guaranteed RUN. 2nd down 75 percent chance its a run. 3rd down 100 percent chance to pass! How about throwing on first down. We have done it a few times and it started a drive that moves down the field going our defense time to BREATHE! How about NOT having Jason under the center when you know the defense is bring the blitz or you think they are going to bring the blitz. Zorn needs to be what he naturally is... JUST a QB coach. We need a proven offensive coordinator and a TOUGH, HARD NOSE head coach. The defense was on the field almost a whole quarter more than the Giants defense. So before people get on our defense, they gave up 16 points with absolutely NO HELP from our offense in the first half! We are still playing 7 to 10 yards off of WRs when they ARE NOT FAST! Our line did not get pressure. ALBERT DID HIS JOB! HE was the reason they didnt score from the 1. He was the one making all the tackles other than Fletcher(roughly 16 by himself) and he was pushing the lineman towards the QB on passing plays and no one else was getting pressure or the DBs can't cover. We had to rely on our punter in the first half to score our first touchdown.
Jason Campbell has to learn to step up into the pocket. It costed us 7 points. He can not lock onto Santana Moss. He was to spread it around. The pick was part his fault and part Santana's fault! Jason shouldn't have thrown the past because he was way past the line. It was Santana's fault because he did not come back to the ball! It is just a complete mess. If Zorn does not use his weapons and learn how and when to call plays, our defense is going to be on the field all the time and we will never score over more than 20 points. Redskins fan at heart but it hurts to see this mess every season. I'm going to still watch the games every week. Oh yeah, can someone please get ROCK CARTWRIGHT from returning kickoffs! There is not a wedge so you are useless back there. We need speed and creativity. Something that he lacks.

Posted by: jfrost8171 | September 13, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I think that was the worst play-calling I have seen in a Skins game in a long time.

Let's start talking about who are new coach will be next year?

Posted by: isnadd | September 13, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, I have to agree about Campbell. He is a great guy with a strong arm but he plays too slow. Why can't the Redskins get in and out of the huddle. When we were 10 points down the you would have thought we were winning with the consevative play calling and lollygagging attitued.

Posted by: mpholmes | September 13, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Just like we last year, the Skins can come back from 0-1 and looking bad in the first game to the Giants.

DeAngelo Hall is "The Whiff King"

Posted by: ccwbambam | September 13, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I thought Gibbs was coaching. Every first down, they tried to run the ball, even after it failed and failed and failed. Do the coaches not realize that every team knows this by now?

Posted by: davidbrowne | September 13, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

We paid $55 MIl for Deangelo Hall???? He hasn't got a clue on how to cover anyone much less tackle them after they beat him or someone else.

A worthless effort all the way around. Too much blame to place on one player. JC just doesn't cut it in this offense or any offense for that matter. He sees no one on the team except for Moss. And Portis is over the hill averaging less that 4 yards a carry. Every touch by the Giants seemed to go for 8-9 yards. What a wasted effort.

Posted by: bullwinkle1 | September 13, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Saw the game, there is nothing new about the offense & defense compared to last year. The offense is playing very "vanilla", its like the Giants new
what was coming. maybe Andrew Woodson was
a good signing. Zorn needs to be more creative. The defense is playing uninspired
play, with a few exceptions, the defensive back play is pathetic. Looks like they play by reaction, why don't they try to dictate to the offense. Oh why the way,
what is Mike Shanahan's phone number.
Zorn & crew are pretty much gone.

Posted by: madalao | September 13, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

As one of the largest JC fans out there I was disappointed to see the first half. Just terrible on all counts. He played bad.
By the second half I figured out why, and my theory was confirmed, I think, in the 2 minute drill ending with the TD to Cooley.

JC sucks because Zorn is trying to relive his glory days through Jason. He's living in Campbell's helmet instead of letting him own the game. Campbell looked tepid, at best. Like a kid whose Dad is overbearing on his every move. That's why he plays the way he does. Bet he's getting a play by play from Zorn for every second the helmet headset is on.

If Campbell really sucked, horribly as a QB, why did he move the ball down the field so well with that last TD to Cooley? That drive had the least amount of talking from Zorn because it was a hurry up. There wasn't enough time for Zorn to give a pre-snap sermon, and Jason just played ball. And that was his best drive.

Hey Zorn, SHUT THE **** Up! And learn how to call a game for real. I know you must have found Spurrier's playbook in the Ashburn Archives, but leave the gadget plays out when the middle of the field is open all day. And a screen pass on the 8 yard line? WTF? Try a friggin slant...or any play that will put the ball in the end zone. Fade pattern to either of the two 6'4" receivers on the roster. Learn to coach and shut yer trap!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 13, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

...none of this will make any difference if the worst GM and evaluator of talent in the league remains at the helm of the Redskins. You will just be replacing medicore and subpar talent with more of the same next year. Vinnie is a joke--how many more seasons must this be proven before Danny finally gets it.

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Let's face it fellas...

1. Campbell stinks - well, maybe
2. Zorn stinks - um, duh he'd never been an o-coordinator before hc-ing the skins.
3. Snyder stinks - bingo.

Answer - dump Zorn and Campbell, that's what you're all saying? Um, hello, exactly which knucklehead do you think is going to pick their replacements? The Skins are doomed for the next 30-40 years unless Snyder accidently chokes to death on his foie gras. But at least we've got the off-season to get all excited about Shanahan and the next batch of overpaid free agents!

Posted by: rfjh1 | September 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"quarterback Jason Campbell finished the game 19-for-26 for 211 yards and a touchdown. He also had an interception and lost a fumble. For comparison, Eli Manning went 20-for-29 passing for 256 yards. He also had a touchdown and an interception". --Jason Reid

All you stat freaks are missing the point bigtime. Jason Campbell does not know how to control a football game! I will give him a little credit today, though, because the play calling was absolutely the worst. Another thing, how is it the Giants bring in hungry guys off the bench who are better athletes than our over-hyped 2nd round receiver trio and our over-paid free agents? Absolutely pathetic.

Posted by: bones21 | September 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

First time to post b/c I do feel really strongly about the fact we overall stunk it up in every aspect of the game. We moved the ball at the end of the game when Giants stopped bringing the heat plain and simple. Where are our #2 receivers? Kelly and Thomas were non-existent. You see rookie WRs on other team like Britt and Harvin tearing it up and we have 2nd year guys who week in and week out don't step it up. Giants were playing without 2 starting DBs yet we failed to stretch the field. We had one pass that was way overthrown to Moss and the rest were 5 to 10 year hit plays. I just think the play calling is way too tame, the defense got gashed by a bunch of no name WRs, and once again we got minimal pressure on Manning providing him time to carve up our secondary. I am just seeing more of the same of last year unfortunately. Let's hope we get pissed and nasty and dominate next week!

Posted by: dwninit71 | September 13, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Pretty much agree with everything being vented but ease up, people. It's only Week #1 and no time to jump ship. I'm still pumped it's finally football season again and look forward to a great year.

Also, nobody mentioned it yet but I thought one of the few brights spots was London Fletcher who quietly had a(nother) solid game.

Posted by: GAU8A | September 13, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey Zorn, SHUT THE **** Up! And learn how to call a game for real. I know you must have found Spurrier's playbook in the Ashburn Archives, but leave the gadget plays out when the middle of the field is open all day. And a screen pass on the 8 yard line? WTF? Try a friggin slant...or any play that will put the ball in the end zone. Fade pattern to either of the two 6'4" receivers on the roster. Learn to coach and shut yer trap!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 13, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse
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Excellent post. I was all over that 1st and ten on 10 yard line play calling. Not one call made any damn sense whatsoever. If the call is there that makes sense and it does not work, that is one thing. But a first down one yard run, followed by a second down screen on the 10 yard line (are you kidding me? there were 3 Giants on that side of the field waiting), and a pin their ears back third down rush - done. Game over! Not one pass made it to the endzone down by 17. Pathetic!!! But, Campbell is not the answer no matter how bad Zorn is.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 13, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Pretty much agree with everything being vented but ease up, people. It's only Week 1 and no time to jump ship. I'm still pumped it's finally football season again and look forward to a great year.

Also, nobody mentioned it yet but I thought one of the few brights spots was London Fletcher who again had another solid game.

Posted by: GAU8A | September 13, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

...none of this will make any difference if the worst GM and evaluator of talent in the league remains at the helm of the Redskins. You will just be replacing medicore and subpar talent with more of the same next year. Vinnie is a joke--how many more seasons must this be proven before Danny finally gets it.

Posted by: oddjob2 | September 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse
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You stopped one level below the true culprit. Snyder is one of the worst owner in sports while he still rakes in tons of cash from an overzealous and easily fooled fan base. Wake up!

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 13, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Most of you so called fans must not watch the game or you let those idiot brodcasters get into your heads. We lost this game for these reasons. 1. OLINE! they protected ok for the most part but they were horrible aganist the blitz and on 3rd downs. 2. Play calling! Run run pass. Run run pass. Who can't figure that out? That reverse after the 34 yard run was a game killer. Offense moved the ball when we passed the ball but u cant expect anybody to pass in a 5wr set aganist that Defense when the oline cant block one on one. 3. Secondary play. Smoot, Hall and Rogers all 10 yards off the line when its 3rd and two. Horrible tackling.
With all that being said you take away the sack fumble and we win. Campbell is fine when he has time but zorn has to do better with the calling. I called the plays out from home.

Posted by: bza48842002 | September 13, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe how bad the secondary played. D Hall got abused all day and Landry wasn't much better. I won't throw the offense under the bus totally because they stunk as well, but the secondary was terrible. How come we play 10 yards off the receivers all the time, i don't understand! If Hall and Rogers are "shut down corners" let them play tight man coverage....are we playing them off because coaches know they can't play man up??? I'm disappointed with this effort, I think I care more as a die hard fan then the team does!!!!!!!

Posted by: jcrabbe1 | September 13, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to add that all you cult of colt, squad for todd and case for chase members might wanna know that campbell had a equal qb rating to eli. Eli has a much better line. I like my man bmitch was impressed with haynesworth he had the middle of that line moving but the other lineman couldnt capatlize.

Posted by: bza48842002 | September 13, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The only thing positive I can walk away with from this game is that ARE is playing where he needs to be. He should have been in the slot for the last three years.

Posted by: clark202 | September 13, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Here it is in a nutshell:

Upper Management is not football savvy and a bad evaluator of talent...
Jim Zorn has way too predictable in his playcalling that does not put the star players in position to excel...
Jason Campbell has good physical attributes, but is probably being overcoached and not being allowed to utilize his own gameplan...
Mason needs to take over Betts playing time...
Kelley should be returning kicks, not Cartwright...
Snyder should have spent the $100M on getting 4-5 solid NFL lineman to give his offense a chance to succeed as opposed to spending this amount of money on one person that could get injured...
Bottom line, this team is still a solid step below the other NFC East teams and will continue to be so until we get rid of Vinny and start to pull in young, affordable talent...It's too bad that we have so many committted, hardcore fans out there that deserve better management at the helm of our beloved team...another 8-8 year :(

Posted by: keaton01 | September 13, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

One way of summarizing the frustration the Skins' create is that despite years of promise and big spending, we are nowhere closer to competing as one of football's elite talent.

Posted by: keaton01 | September 13, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

although i figured the giants would give us some trouble, i was a bit surprised that the redskins still looked like they are just not ready to play football. I mean they were STILL lining up wrong. THey are burning timeouts....THAT ALWAYS KILL ME.....Every team should have a run play, a pass play that is automatic in the face not having a play in. BUt then, when you do get the play....GET OUT OF THE HUDDLE AND TO THE LINE...., that irked me quite a bit

Also, stop calling screenplays near the goalline..I dont understand it. It's like we are afraid to punch a defense in the mouth. And then, JC...c'mon man..CHECKING TO A RUN WHEN THERE ARE 8 PEOPLE IN THE BOX??...draw plays on 3rd and15???

it's not that the team is not talented (except O/line), but we dont use our players right , nor is the play calling up to par

I dont understand how the Giants used ALL THEIR RECIEVERS and the skins can only find El, Moss, and Cooly....somethings wrong here.

Posted by: impervious99 | September 14, 2009 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what to think after yesterday's performance. It is WAY to early to worry too much. Last year we started 6-2 and ended the season as probably one of the worst 2-3 teams in the league. So a loss to start the year isn't shattering my hopes just yet. What DOES bother me is the fact that everything I am reading here on the post.com from the Redskins gives me the impression the Skins feel as if they "gave" the game away with turnovers and penalties. Umm...yes, you did. But lets not overlook the fact that the Giants completely dominated us in every aspect of the game Sunday. It wasn't one particular play or one particular turnover. There are a dozen plays you can point to. And where I come from, that isn't giving the game away, thats having it ripped away from you by a superior team. Lets focus on getting better and correcting mistakes. But lets not start assuming we're better than we are. You guys have proven literally nothing. Actually you have. So far you've proved Campbell is not worth of a contact extension and should be sent packing. We've also proved Haynesworth is out of shape, Deangelo Hall over runs plays and can't tackle and our offensive playcalling is pathetic and unimaginative at best. Seriously, who is calling our plays (ofensively?). Better think about hiring someone new. That was just sad.

Posted by: storers11 | September 14, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm soooo glad we didn't get Cutler. I much prefer a QB that looks scared to death, can't feel pressure and step up in the pocket, throws an int while already over the line of scrimmage, is absolutely TERRIBLE at throwing the long ball, fumbles if the wind blows to hard. We are so much better off.

Not to worry. Only a couple more weeks 'till we can root for a winning team.

LET'S GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: jfwil | September 14, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

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