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After Setback, Kelly May Be Headed for IR

Jason La Canfora reports:

Receiver Malcolm Kelly has suffered another setback in his recovery from knee problems, Jim Zorn said, and the Redskins could opt to put him on the injured reserve list, ending his season, by the end of the week.

Kelly was unable to practice today after his knee swelled again, Zorn said. It has been drained frequently since preseasoin knee surgery and Kelly has been unable to play or practice regularly. He will undergo another MRI today.

"It swelled up again in the last couple of days" Zorn said, saying the team will decide whether to continue giving Kelly time to get healthy or opt for "another guy."

The fact that Kelly, a second-round pick (51st overall pick) out of Oklahoma, has had problems running correct routes in practice and had lagged in learning the offense may work against him. The Skins could re-sign Maurice Mann or Burl Toler (both free agents were here in camp) should they opt to end Kelly's season.

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6. Scott Pianowski billed Clinton Portis as the early leader in the MVP race, and I think I’m ready to get behind that line of thinking. Last week I moved Frank Gore to the top of my Big Board, due in large part to his consistent week-to-week production – he’d been a top 15 fantasy back each week prior to his 61 yfs, 0 TD letdown against the Giants on Sunday. Many people wrote to me in protest of the Gore appointment, lobbying for Portis instead. Portis backed up their support by hanging 175 rushing yards and a TD on the Browns in Week 7. It was his fourth-consecutive 100-yard effort and the fifth time in his past six games that he’s found the end zone. And he’s managed to beat up on both the stronger and weaker of run defenses, even when he’s not been in the best of health – he was struggling with a hip flexor injury prior to Week 7. He’s No. 1 this week, and the appointment will come with a bit of an apology.

Posted by: bms46and2 | October 22, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Second round draft pick, ONE catch for the whole year. Good pick.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 22, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hate to see Kelly go on IR but at this point they probably should. His knee is obviously not right and pushing it probably isn't helping.

Posted by: skinswest | October 22, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully his knee is something that can heal over the off season otherwise what a waste of a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: skinswest | October 22, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"I don't give a damn what anyone says: Sean Taylor would've been the greatest safety of all-time, period.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 22, 2008 3:21 PM"

We can agree on that

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 22, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

BFB

Posted by: lsskinsfan | October 22, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Someone had just said that Kelly will inevitably end up on IR just a few threads ago.

Sorry to hear about his set back. I personally think that Kelly should've been IR'd a few weeks ago, maybe after the win versus the Saints. He barely got touched on his lone catch of that game and season, and he came off the field hobbling.

I hope like hell I'm wrong, but Kelly may never be physically able to play in the NFL.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Damn! Yeah put him on IR and let him heal and getting ready for next year. I am still with the kid and think he will be good.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

been saying this for 2 weeks. IR him already. Its the best solution for all involved.

1. This season that we are very much in contention. We need a healthy body to compete.

2. Best for Kelly. Quit pressing, trying to impress coaches, rushing back. Shut it down, get healthy, study.

3. For the Skins long term. 2nd round picks kill you when they are busts, so lets stop risking his knee and his head now. Look at Robert Meachum for Saints, hurt and a bust all year one. This year after getting healthy and learning the ropes he looks to be on a solid path to being a starter by year 3.

4. For Devin Thomas. This way he is the rookie man! He can get all the reps/experience.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas, Malcom Kelley, Fred Davis....way to draft 'em.

Every amatuer GM knows that wideouts/pass catchers take longer to contribute (usually year 2 or 3) and rarely do much their rookie years. These picks were explained to us as supposedly giving JC weapons now....nice job. Even worse, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Royal are making almost weekly contributions for their teams.

Put Kelly on IR and bring back Mix

Posted by: Fuzzy21 | October 22, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Would be nice to have #21 still around to wipe that stupid smile off Hines Ward's face in a couple weeks.

RIP ST

Posted by: F_Registration | October 22, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This really sucks, I'm hopeful that he can rehab in the offseason, and come back like Rocky did this year.


Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 22, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

They knew Kelly's history before they drafted him but drafted him anyway. Skins have an awful history when it comes to drafting WR's with high draft picks. Put the kid on IR, let him heal up and give him a chance to absorb things from the sideline. Hopefully he'll come to camp in better shape and his knee will be healthy. He was too far behind anyway to make any kind of difference this season.

Posted by: redpitbull98 | October 22, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Second round draft pick, ONE catch for the whole year. Good pick.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 22, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

What an idiotic comment. Jason Cambpell's rookie year he had zero completions. I suppose he wasn't a good pick either, right?

I guarantee you know next to nothing about the sport of football.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 22, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

He'll have all offseason to get healthy, let's hope it works out.

I guess we get to hear what a "bust" one of three second rounders is now, even though his career is FAR from over.

There are still eight other draft picks on this roster, if half (four) of them end up contributing THIS year(there is already ONE doing just that and three others doing more and more and getting closer and closer every week), it was a successful draft IMHO.

Posted by: craig2 | October 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Vinny s&cks!!!! Jason was right!!!! Sally Jenkins is hot!!! Everyone on here is a genius!!!

Posted by: Lacantwrite | October 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Nothing against the Vin Man Cerrato, but what was the name of the stud d-end from Hampton we didn't draft to draft this soft loaf of bread, a.k.a Malcolm "Bust" Kelly? Picking Kelly over that guy hurts as a young d-lineman/end would negated trading valuable picks for Jason Taylor if anybody got hurt (which is what happened). And now, teams still don't fear the receiver opposite Moss and dare the Skins to throw. Real teams like Pittsburgh and the Giants or Carolina in the playoffs will exploit this weakness. We have to hope Portis/Moss stays healthy or the light comes on for the kid D. Thomas. Injuries to those guys will expose the lack of depth/speed we have in the skill position.

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Would be nice to have #21 still around to wipe that stupid smile off Hines Ward's face in a couple weeks.

RIP ST

Agreed! Also to see Ben taken down hard!

Another thing, Eagles fans are obnoxious, second only to Pittsburgh fans. Wretched!

Posted by: lsskinsfan | October 22, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"There are still eight other draft picks on this roster, if half (four) of them end up contributing THIS year(there is already ONE doing just that and three others doing more and more and getting closer and closer every week), it was a successful draft IMHO.

Posted by: craig2"

Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and ??

please don't say Justin Tryon...

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 22, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Justin Tryon

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 22, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Nicely done barno....this place will be filled with guys breaking their arms patting themselves on the back.....they call themselves fans, but deep down they're glad this happened because it backs up their point of view....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 22, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey there's Barno - I thought he was a ghost.

JC wasn't drafted to be our QB the first year. Mark was solidly in place and JC was groomed to be the long-term replacement.

Our 3 2nd rounders were 'supposedly' brought in to give JC big targets and redzone weapons that we didn't have last year. And they were supposed to do it SOONER rather than later... not take a season or two to get healthy. And in Kelly's case, to get SMART. None of them have done anything of note so far.

Thanks, though.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 22, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to put Kelly down, I'd be thrilled if those guys could contribute. But it doesnt help when theyre doing nothing and there are other 1st/2nd rounders that are contributing.

Posted by: Rypien11 | October 22, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Horton, actually is one of them - I think all of this fretting and moaning about the draft class is interesting and good conversation - but every player comes along at their own speed - not every number 1 pick contributes in the first year, not every team NEEDS their number 1 pick to contribute in the first year. (extending the argument, needs ANY of their draft picks to contribute in the first year)

I suspect, if you ask most coaches, they would love to not have to play their draft picks in the first year, except to get some game experience under their belt

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 22, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Tryon was drafted he was spouting all this noise about shutting down TO and other upper echelon WR's? Any other team would've cut that kid before camp broke.

Posted by: redpitbull98 | October 22, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

No(I thought and wrote Tryon was mistake) I'm talking about Moore and maybe Jackson.

You guys are so negative you don't even see what's there. Most drafted players don't even make it past TWO YEARS now, look up the numbers, it's kinda sad, but it's the fact of the matter. The Skins got a lot of depth and most likely at least two starters.

And don't forget, McIntosh was a "bust" according to all the idiots here too, how'd that work out?!

I'll take it all things considered.

Posted by: craig2 | October 22, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"Justin Tryon

Posted by: JohnDinHouston"

facepalm

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 22, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I hope they get Anthony Mix back...he's a big target and was solid on special teams. Plus he can step right in.

Posted by: Yoder-lay-hee-who | October 22, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Any other team would've cut that kid before camp broke.

No...no they wouldn't have. I mean, unless you've talked to the 31 other teams and confirmed this.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 22, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Where's Patrick Ramsey? Who cares but I came upon this snip on PFT

Oct 22, 2008
As it turns out, a game wasn't all the Broncos lost on Monday night.

CB Champ Bailey, a team leader and eight-time Pro Bowler, will be out 4-6 weeks after suffering a torn groin. SLB Boss Bailey, Champ's younger brother, and QB Patrick Ramsey are both out for the season, according to a Denver Post report.

The report indicates Boss Bailey will need microfracture surgery to repair knee damage, which has been a problem for him in the past few years and flared up again in the Week Seven loss. Ramsey reinjured his right elbow while filling in for Jay Cutler, who was out after banging his finger on a helmet, so the Broncos may call Darrell Hackney up from the practice squad to become Cutler's backup.

Posted by: HelzYea2DaSkinz | October 22, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh no not the "Real fan" debate....I mean I already live in non-real part of America...

Barno, while I agree with your sentiment that one season is to early to proclaim judgment the JC analogy is a false one. Everyone knew JC was holding a clipboard for 1 year minimum. Sorta a apples and porkchops situation there.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 22, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

As of right now, we should have taken DeSean Jackson with the 2nd round pick where we took Davis. He'd be our #3 right now as well as returning punts. I wouldn't give up on Kelly yet but when other teams are taking him off their board because of his knees, you are taking a high risk there. Along with the other red flags like complaining about the running surface and what not.

Posted by: F_Registration | October 22, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

actually I'm not negative about the draft, please don't get me confused with all these whiners

I was just making sure you didn't think Tryon was close to contributing, that guy blows.

Thomas, Kelly, and Big Sleepy will all be fine in the long run, and Horton is a beast. Kareem Moore has played okay, made a rookie mistake on the one play everyone will now know him for, but he'll be alright.

Jackson I thought was on the practice squad now?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 22, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

IR Kelly and find a No 3 type WR.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 22, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I agree on JC not being a reasonable comparison, but McIntosh is.

There were many here that proclaimed him an absolute bust as well. And don't forget, there are two guys on the D-Line playing pretty well right now who were 5th and 6th round picks.

So the Skins have actually drafted fairly well, for the so called "haters", all they have to do is actually LOOK at the CURRENT roster and see that.

Posted by: craig2 | October 22, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Food for thought: If you say its to early to judge the draft class, is not also to early to say they will all eventually be fine?

Posted by: chrislarry | October 22, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Going into Sunday's debacle against the Raiders, Favre was carrying a 71.3 completion average, highest in the league, highest of his career. It's a number that says, "What, me, take a chance? You've got to be kidding."

The other side of the coin is his yards per completion figure is sitting at 9.9, after that anemic outing at Oakland. This is a checkdown number, a play-it-safe figure. It's usually an indication of which quarterbacks like to go downfield, or at least which ones have coaches who aren't afraid of turning them loose. Never in Favre's 17-year career has it been this low. Only four quarterbacks in the NFL right now -- Carson Palmer, Brian Griese, Matt Cassel and Ryan Fitzpatrick -- are in the nine-yard range. Guys like Tony Romo and Philip Rivers are in the 13-yard range. Chad Pennington, whom Favre replaced, whose arm supposedly was too weak to pose a serious downfield threat, is averaging almost two yards more than Favre, 11.8 to 9.9.

Favre had three shots at the Raiders in overtime Sunday, three series in which to move his team into field-goal range. The first one started with Thomas Jones running the ball twice for five yards. It ended with a sack. The second began with two Jones runs for six yards, followed by an incompletion. The third started with three runs for 15 yards, followed by an incompletion and a Favre scramble and fumble out of bounds. They never cleared their own territory. Three series, three punts. Fourteen plays, eight runs, one of four passes completed for 17 yards, a scramble and a sack.

In another context you might say, OK, it was the culmination of a brutal game, a slugfest. Well, it was a tough game all right, but the Raiders were exhausted at this point. And don't forget, that was Favre who had three cracks at them. Where was he? What is this club thinking of?

Oh, I can hear the excuses, the most common being the receivers. But he's got a big league pair of wideouts in Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery. Rookie Dustin Keller is an athletic tight end drafted for his ability to stretch the field. Leon Washington is a speedy little running back who has broken many long ones in his career. And yet the offense creaks along with Favre bearing the look of some rookie told to keep things short and sensible.

He still has eight interceptions this season. Only poor J.T. O'Sullivan with the struggling 49ers has thrown more. And yet the memory lingers on, the gunslinger, the lights out QB who will bring such wonders to this team and its fans.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 22, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Rob Jackson is still on the 53 man and has played some already, and played fairly well too. The quote from Blache I think was something like "He held his own and didn't screw anything up".

So that's good! LOL

Posted by: craig2 | October 22, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

"Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and ??

please don't say Justin Tryon..."

How about Chad Reinhart? 3rd rounder. He's a future starter. It's a lock. D lineman take longer to develop than WR's so saying we should have drafted a DE is retarded. Tell me about a rookie D lineman that was a huge impact player. Mario Williams? NO. Howie's son? not really. The only one I can think of is Terrell Suggs and he's really a LB.

Posted by: BigRich1 | October 22, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

James Hardy 5 catches

Limas Sweed 1 catch

Mario Manninghame 1 catch

Martellus Bennett 5 catches

Jordy Nelson 10 catches

We're labeling these guys all busts too right??

I mean, I'm just trying to establish what is, and what is not a wasted draft pick....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 22, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad. I was hoping Kelly would contribute this year. Perhaps it's for the best.

Posted by: Gweez | October 22, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Rookie WRs rarely contribute significantly. Its too early to call Thomas and Kelly busts. What they are not doing is contributing much of anything to the 2008 team.

I've been as vocal as anyone up here (if you can apply the term 'vocal' to this format) about wanting a good 3rd WR. I've used the phrase 'solve the problem'. But the problem isn't the rookie WRs. Rookie WRs are most often investments, not solutions.

Best case is that Thomas contributes steadily more as the season goes along, and by year end, he is a serviceable 3rd WR.

As for Kelly and IR, I have no idea on how to judge medical conditions. I'm not a doctor and don't play one on TV or on a blog. Whoever is checking him out must be missing something. We have 2 games and then a bye -- if possible, I'd try to keep him on the roster until after the bye -- see if he can get better before then.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 22, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Look everyone should know it takes longer to develop WR's secondly I too wish we would have drafted Djackson but oh well thats the past...Looking FORWARD i feel we did pretty well with Rhinehart (as someone said earlier) looking to be a good pick, and HOrton, and Thomas def has a shot...Davis looks like he could be a gamer...How about and we all know you cant count out Kelly..so my point is ..yeah we didn't get the production out of the WR this season so far like we wanted ..however we do have find in Horton and we havnt need the any of the other guys YET....bottom line the draft looks alot better this year than in many many years ..even going back to the Gibbs era...

Posted by: cosmiccatnip1 | October 22, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

There is no way Kelly will improve between now and the bye week. He should've been on the IR weeks ago and we all knew it.

Also, anyone who says he's a bust simply doesn't know football. WR's generally take at least one year to understand the pro game. By the middle of year 3, if Kelly and Thomas are not performing, then they are certainly busts. But not by week 8, come on, get some perspective.

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 22, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Rinehart will be starting in Kendall's LG slot next year and maybe Crummey will see time as a back up guard/center type too. Maybe the keep Kendall around for depth, but that's it.

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 22, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Everybody needs to relax. At least our emergency QB is not named "Hackney".

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 22, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Nope, his name is Colt and I'm not letting him around my daughter...

Posted by: rich20ssu | October 22, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Mix!

Posted by: Predator48 | October 22, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"Wide outs needing two years" to develope is an argument for drafting only 1, not 2 with high picks: that's the argument people who really know football are aware of which is why drafting Kelly after already drafting Thomas was indeed a bad pick (it would've allowed the team to keep the already developed Billy McMullen or Anthony Mix at the position). And how come the people who say "wideouts need two year to develope" omit Eddie Royal, DeSean Jackson, and Calvin Johnson from their argument? All the Skins needed was Devin Thomas...Kelly was a reach. Deal with it! And what was the name of the stud Hampton d-lineman they didn't draft to get a guy who needs years to develope.....?

Posted by: MistaMoe | October 22, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

rich -- Crummey was grabbed by Cincy

beep beep

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 22, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

SHould have listened to me before the last cuts, put Kelly on IR, hire Billy McMullen.

Posted by: jgluke | October 22, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling Kelly will be Rookie of the Year...

Posted by: HelzYea2DaSkinz | October 22, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think picking two WR's, including Kelly who had a HISTORY of knee problems in college, was a good idea? OR that we should have a cut a proven veteran like Billy McMullen who would have been our 3rd receiver and actually contributed. Or picking a TE with a 2nd round pick when we needed depth on both the D-Line and O-Line.

Devin Thomas may well develop into a starter at WR in a year or two if he learns the position and listens to the veterans in front of him. Kelly should have been IR'd during preseason so the roster spot could have been used for McMullen who now is a backup elsewhere. I don't see Maurice Mann or anyone we cut during preseason adding anything but an extra body.

Wonder if Keenan McCardell would be interested in coming out of retirement mid-season to help us out like he did last year? If it weren't for lucking into Chris Horton in the 7th round, this draft would have been a complete disaster IMO.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 22, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

after months of study and practice how does a guy not know his routes? he must be a complete idiot!

Posted by: bestmick1 | October 22, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Worst kept secret? bad draft choice! whomever scouted this kid should be fired right after the holidays, no i am not going to pat myself on the back when the gold dust twins couldn't complete the conditioning phase of training camp that was the red flag for me, no dedication,lack of focus,no commitment to excellence whatsoever.The reason why Thomas is not on the field is because he does not know the plays!Kelly is a joke plain and simple yes i know he came in with a injury history and with that being the case why was he drafted? this falls right at the feet of our Minister of Propaganda Vinny(980)Cerrato and his Ray Charles scouting staff.Wake up gentleman this is the NFL!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 22, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

You know Kelly wants to contribute but injuries need to be taken care of. I think they should fix him up and let him heal and let him come back strong next year

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | October 22, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

billy mcmullen = proven veteran?

I don't think so...

Posted by: hender_22 | October 22, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, you gotta wish him the best in rehab, but what is this about the 'Skins knowing he had a history of knee injuries?? I remember we got Terry Allen from the Vikes with a history of knee injuries, but that was back when it was SOP to treat serious ligament tear injuries with steroids and he became a beast (what's the status of that old policy?? They still do it??). As rich an organization as the 'Skins are, the Yankees scouting system they ain't, and the draft crew definitely needs a wakeup slap. I hope he gets the best rehab money can buy, even 'roids (if'n they still do that), but don't pull a Gilbert and try to come back too soon and set your career in jeopardy, Kelly..Anyway, where is McCardell?? He was dope in the red zone..

Posted by: frak | October 22, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Put him on IR; right now he's just taking up space.

Re-sign Anthony Mix, or one of the other WRs that are still available out there: Terry Glenn, Reche Caldwell, Joe Horn, Keenan McCardell or (I can't believe I'm saying this) Taylor Jacobs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 22, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Seattle just recently waived Billy McMullen so he is available...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Amk3tmfnp.5Rd2fJcIFGkfD.uLYF?slug=txseahawksmcmullen&prov=st&type=lgns

He has a total of 7 catches so far and he has been healthy all year!

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 22, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

just some food for thought....

just looking at a few of the top wideouts currently in the NFL
Roddy White only had 20 receptions or so his rookie year and under 40 his second year in the league and we all know he is proforming like a top flight receiver but i guess the nay sayers would have given up on him.. lets take another ,Brandon Marshell he had only 20 catches his rookie year and i think he has turned out ok...how about some one like a GReg Jennings leads the league in receiving yards he had 45 catches his rookie year...of course there are receivers that come right out of the gate with big numbers alot of those times its from high first round picks with crap teams that can have some mistakes and let them learn on the job we have been lucky in Washington not to have to do that..think about it

Posted by: cosmiccatnip1 | October 23, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

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