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Afternoon Practice Update

Practice -- the Redskins have moved to one per day now -- began about 20 minutes ago and Rick Maese reports that Anthony Alridge is on the field in pads. Mike Sellers, who bruised his knee Saturday night; Carlos Rogers, who has been battling a calf injury; and Mike Williams, who has a low-ankle sprain, are not participating.

Bogboy Kicks Self Over Own Prediction

Dan Steinberg was hoping, praying, living for a kicker controversy this preseason and he's more than a little bummed at the way things have worked out. Steinberg cheered himself up by looking at the glass-half-full things previous Redskins coaches have said about their QBs.

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1st?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 24, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I hope some Cowpuke fan buys those seats and all he/she sees is Redskins TD's and nothing more. That stadium is over hyped!

Posted by: Devo2 | August 24, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I tried to beep y'all on the last thread, but got stuffed like Betts at the goal line.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

How important is it for the QB to have the "it" factor? I have seen people using this term lately on here. Wondering what the opinions on this are?

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 24, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

No excuse, LH. He missed some throws. It was a poor showing by JC.

Posted by: psps23

1-7 for 10 yards? That's poor? OK, it is poor. But its way too early to panic. Campbell will get dialed in if the OL continues to give him time.

Vs NE, I'd like to see Campbell throw it 20+ times. This game is 80% about Campbell getting his timing with the #1,#2 and #3 WRs.

The rest of the game is about 2 things -- guys getting sharper and in game shape ... and determining who gets cut.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

the girl in the seat video is hot

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Great video of M. Kelly in practice today !

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

No excuse, LH. He missed some throws. It was a poor showing by JC.

Posted by: psps23

1-7 for 10 yards? That's poor? OK, it is poor. But its way too early to panic. Campbell will get dialed in if the OL continues to give him time.

Vs NE, I'd like to see Campbell throw it 20+ times. This game is 80% about Campbell getting his timing with the #1,#2 and #3 WRs.

The rest of the game is about 2 things -- guys getting sharper and in game shape ... and determining who gets cut.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

No excuse, LH. He missed some throws. It was a poor showing by JC.

Posted by: psps23

1-7 for 10 yards? That's poor? OK, it is poor. But its way too early to panic. Campbell will get dialed in if the OL continues to give him time.

Vs NE, I'd like to see Campbell throw it 20+ times. This game is 80% about Campbell getting his timing with the #1,#2 and #3 WRs.

The rest of the game is about 2 things -- guys getting sharper and in game shape ... and determining who gets cut.

Posted by: zcezcest1

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

girl in the seat video is hot

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 2:08 PM


Here's the video right here !

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

dang it ... my apologies for the repeat post of the repeated post ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

No excuse, LH. He missed some throws. It was a poor showing by JC.

Posted by: psps23


You hit that right on the head !
Here's some of the video here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly said that the first play of the game hadn't been run once during practice the previous week. Sure we'd all like to see JC make that throw, but having not practiced the timing of that route, I'm not surprised they missed.

That's what the pre-season is for

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

See HIRE_MARTY_S in a Tijuana Donkey Show!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 24, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Best quote of the day.

Cindy Boren: Sometimes it (being a Redskins fan) really is just a giant Mobius strip, isn't it?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Quick responses after a quick scan of the blog:

*Daniel vs. Brennan?

Honestly, who cares. Neither will be a legit NFL QB...but at least Daniel can run and so I take him.

*There's no question Marko Mitchell will make the roster -

He's a 7th round Vinny draft pick; anyone that was drafted by Vinny and has a pulse by the end of training camp makes the team. Not to mention that the dude can play and looks like the 2nd best receiver on the team right now.

*Betts is NOT a starting RB in this league -

He doesn't move the pile, he doesn't have breakaway speed, he doesn't make tacklers miss, he doesn't have a nose for short yardage plays, he's been injury-prone; he's a nice 3rd down back who can execute a run, catch a pass out of the backfield, spell a starter.

*Jason Campbell is ticking me off -

I've stuck up for him due to the fact that I don't think he's had a fair chance to be evaluated. But in 2 preseason games so far, he really doesn't look like he's making any progress in executing this offense.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else liked how our D, esp the D-line, looked in the 1st Q against the Stillers 1's? We were blowing up their O-line.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly said that the first play of the game hadn't been run once during practice the previous week. Sure we'd all like to see JC make that throw, but having not practiced the timing of that route, I'm not surprised they missed.

That's what the pre-season is for

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:13


Great observation of the interview. If you would like to see the interview, here it goes.

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, so some of the shine has come off the turd now?

Posted by: TLoad"

No. I recognize that the outing was poor, but unlike others (which apparently includes yourself), I attempt to look at where the outing went wrong, instead of running diarrhea from the mouth.

Campbell missed a couple throws with accuracy. He was also aggressive, attentive, quick on his decisions, and smart with his throws. So while the end product underwhelmed, the underlying processes were all there for a dominant performance. He gets the ball one yard further on the first pass, everyone is singing a different tune. He wasn't confused by the defense, misreading a coverage, 'checking down' for the safe pass, or not seeing the field. It was accuracy, plain and simple.

And I'm not worried about that becoming a pattern, especially as the season goes on.

So no, the shine has not come off.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Chas,
Its good to hear, though Big Ben was sacked more last year then JC. Little ben however...

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Very glad to see that JJones is starting to take some serious heat in the media….you just know this new stadium has been number 1 on his list for some time now and he has certainly been smug about it up to this point….then in the first game it becomes obvious that they made a dunderhead decision and he is trying to deny that it’s an issue….love it!

Also glad to see ITA in effect….learned our lessons last week I suppose.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 24, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea what you are talking about Dlhaze.....

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

So no, the shine has not come off.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 2:19 PM

So you acknowledge it's a turd?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

If you'd actually like to read what Kelly said about the first play of the game on Saturday, and not view some stupid and unrelated youtube video, here's the link:
http://blog.redskins.com/2009/08/23/malcolm-kelly-talks-redskins-rides-and-that-pass-from-last-night/#continued

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else liked how our D, esp the D-line, looked in the 1st Q against the Stillers 1's? We were blowing up their O-line.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 2:16 PM


Our "D" will be in the top three this year no doubt. Hey here are some highlights of the game here.

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"So no, the shine has not come off.
Posted by: psps23 "

I think you were 'sposed to say, "and it's not a turd, either."

Posted by: Samson151 | August 24, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

f you'd actually like to read what Kelly said about the first play of the game on Saturday, and not view some stupid and unrelated youtube video, here's the link:

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Gotta respect Vinny "I'm master of the 7th round" Cerratto.

No, seriously...Horton, Marko.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 24, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

LH and Samson, you slay me.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly said that the first play of the game hadn't been run once during practice the previous week. Sure we'd all like to see JC make that throw, but having not practiced the timing of that route, I'm not surprised they missed.

That's what the pre-season is for

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:13


One wonders why the team is running random unpracticed plays to start the game. You'd think they'd use the opportunity to run relevant stuff.

Anyways, Zorn's comments seem to suggest that route is not a "timing" route. The receiver picks his angle and the QB is supposed to make the throw.

JC screwed up. Period.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Stumped:

Future Star GM Morocco Brown is actually in charge of later rounds and undrafted FA...

Morocco Brown for GM....let Vinny run Snyder's media empire. Problems solved!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyways, Zorn's comments seem to suggest that route is not a "timing" route. The receiver picks his angle and the QB is supposed to make the throw.

JC screwed up. Period.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Plus Santana was wide open crossing over the middle for a 20+ yards gain. He completely missed it. Although it sounds like Zorn wanted him to take the shots deep. OR so they say.....

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 24, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Interspecies Erotica FsjkO!

Oh & more great news for tha Heat:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4419340

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

If you'd actually like to read what Kelly said about the first play of the game on Saturday, and not view some stupid and unrelated youtube video, here's the link:
http://blog.redskins.com/2009/08/23/malcolm-kelly-talks-redskins-rides-and-that-pass-from-last-night/#continued

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 2:22 PM

Thanks for the link. Also, put me down on the side of not being concerned about Campbell's struggle with accuracy.

Posted by: TWISI | August 24, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Dik, if that's about Beasley, that's really unfortunate. Amazing how some of us think that money takes care of everything.

I bet he isn't the only multi-million dollar athlete that goes through depression or some other mental illness.

Props and respect to DMV's own Michael Beasley.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Chas,
Its good to hear, though Big Ben was sacked more last year then JC. Little ben however...

Posted by: alex35332
_________________________

No doubt, the Stillers definitely don't have the best O-line, but they were just getting destroyed. And you could see how aggressive & confident our players were. Would like to see T Brady get seriously knocked around this week, as he did last week (and in the SB). When a line plays like this (and yes it's too early to make too much of this and yes it was a weak O-line), strategy just goes right out the window. As it did for the Pats in that SB.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Interspecies Erotica FsjkO!

Oh & more great news for tha Heat

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 2:30 PM


Thanks for letting the insiders know were they can find skins video.

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I just figured out that you can hid all that Mafia Wars junk on facebook.

Best day ever.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Not concerned about Campbell's struggle with accuracy?

Some of you never cease to amaze.

Even RI's resident Jason Campbell apologist -- you know who you are -- admitted to some accuracy issues.

I bet the majority who aren't concerned with Campbell's accuracy are also part of the majority who had problems with La Canfora's reporting on the 'skins.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

take it from one who knows - moving from DMV to tha 305 is DEFINITELY a head trip - made only worse by $$.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

chas,

As I said in the past threads I missed the game while on vacation. Have watched a few highlights but thats about it. So I take your word for it that the D-Line looked deadly, comcast made them look that way.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

BOGBOY? What brought on that insult?

Posted by: hock1 | August 24, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Count me as someone concerned with Campbell's accuracy issues.

Dude needs to be able to hit receivers. We're not talking about Brett Favre stepping off a plane to play with new guys for the first time.

If he continues to struggle with accuracy, then we are going to have a heavy dosage of nice "safe" conservative passing plays and checkdowns. (See all of last season).

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

HIRE_MARTY_S is posting fake youtube sign in pages.
STOP DOING THAT, HAS ANYONE REPORTED THIS YET?

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Somebody recently posted they'd like to see both Chase and Colt do a (1st) quarter each in preseason with the 1's... I'd love to see this real test of both too, 'cept it'd hurt JC's prep for the regular season. Gotta say Chase looked tight & confident, able to move quick in the pocket, great peripherals, find the right passing lane (making his somewhat dimunitive height less of an issue, or none). Also always has the ball cocked right at his shoulder like Marino always did, making for far shorter time from decision to finish of throwing motion. Had great touch when needed (and not just on the TD lob/jump ball), and great bullets leading the receivers when he needed those.

And yes, Marko looks killer. Reminds me of R Moss.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Let's get Morocco's bandwagon rolling.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | August 24, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

STOP DOING THAT, HAS ANYONE REPORTED THIS YET?

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 2:52 PM

If no one ever engages with him and ignores him, he will soon stop.

But, it has to be collective. Scroll Pass (aka ITA), him like you do to those unsolicited Porn Emails about a Naked Jessica Simpson/Angelina Jolie....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Morocco Mole?

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

psps: "So while the end product underwhelmed, the underlying processes were all there for a dominant performance"

I don't know about dominant, but a QB who throws misses in the first half often completes those same throws in the second. Nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 24, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"If he continues to struggle with accuracy, then we are going to have a heavy dosage of nice "safe" conservative passing plays and checkdowns. (See all of last season).

Posted by: p1funk"

Not likely. The 'safe' playcalling last season, according to Zorn, was a result of the offensive line's inability to protect the QB.

In September of last year, Campbell had 65+% completion on 7.03 YPA. In October, he had 67% completion on 8.26 YPA. If accuracy is this team's biggest worry with regards to Campbell, then the QB position is in good hands. His accuracy is off right now, but it will bounce back. He may not be Kurt Warner in precision, but he's got more than enough to get it done.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

HIRE_MARTY_S is posting fake youtube sign in pages.
STOP DOING THAT, HAS ANYONE REPORTED THIS YET?

Posted by: BMACattack | August 24, 2009 2:52 PM


Report me ? I will sign in under a new name and ramp it up 300%. I am giving skin fans what they want. video of practice. here's the video there talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

But yes, his accuracy does need to be better than it was on Saturday.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The guy is persistent. Someone needs to slap him senseless so he can't see straight to copy and paste the same f'ing link 1000 times.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | August 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

DikShuttle:

Pic of Beasley's Tattoo with unknown baggie of 'something' next to him.....

http://forums.phishhook.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=759548&start=0

PS he will so regret that tattoo in about 7/8 years. That is some straight up Bama ish....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

He may not be Kurt Warner in precision, but he's got more than enough to get it done.

Posted by: psps23
________________________

I'm not a JC fan, I think he's mediocre, but I totally agree with this. If the O-line is at least "competent" all year, this could be quite a season for the Skins because of their D.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a JC fan, I think he's mediocre, but I totally agree with this. If the O-line is at least "competent" all year, this could be quite a season for the Skins because of their D.

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 3:05 PM


O-line is holding there on at practice today. We'll at least that's that PFT.com is reporting.. Here's the story.

http://www.youtube.com/user/opinionguy2011

Posted by: HIRE_MARTY_S | August 24, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it's accuracy - per se, it's ability to perform the QB role consistently and effectively.

He's been accurate without taking chances. He's thrown deep without being able to structure a sustained drive. He's led comebacks only to repeat mistakes the game after.

One thing for certain, he rarely looks like he knows what he's doing... If he's ever good, it seems by accident.

This is his year. He has to put it all together now.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

But yes, his accuracy does need to be better than it was on Saturday.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:02 PM

Yes, or his new name will be Ramsey 2.0......

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

In September of last year, Campbell had 65+% completion on 7.03 YPA. In October, he had 67% completion on 8.26 YPA. If accuracy is this team's biggest worry with regards to Campbell, then the QB position is in good hands. His accuracy is off right now, but it will bounce back. He may not be Kurt Warner in precision, but he's got more than enough to get it done.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:00 PM |

And the turd polishing continues ...

Posted by: BlackBagOps | August 24, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

speaking of, did anyone catch Ramsay's 'performance' in the Tenn game?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Not likely. The 'safe' playcalling last season, according to Zorn, was a result of the offensive line's inability to protect the QB.

In September of last year, Campbell had 65+% completion on 7.03 YPA. In October, he had 67% completion on 8.26 YPA. If accuracy is this team's biggest worry with regards to Campbell, then the QB position is in good hands. His accuracy is off right now, but it will bounce back. He may not be Kurt Warner in precision, but he's got more than enough to get it done.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse


The safe play-calling was alot of things. Oline breakdowns - yes; but also Zorn made a point of noting that they were running very basic sets b/c it was everyone's first year in the system.

If you have a QB struggling with accuracy, it's MO to call simple easy completions to help get the rhythm/confidence up.

I hope they are spending alot of time working on deep plays in practice; and I hope JC can get his head together so that we don't have to struggle through the simple/basic sets all over again.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"And the turd polishing continues ...

Posted by: BlackBagOps"

As does the inability to even remotely provide a credible counter-argument.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

PS he will so regret that tattoo in about 7/8 years. That is some straight up Bama ish....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 3:04 PM

What's up with the eyeglasses hanging from the S?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Best comment on the "wall" blocking the view of those $85 seats in Cowboyland:

Hiding behind that brick wall reminds me so much of my prom it makes me want to rent Short Cuts and masturbate to Julianne Moore all over again.

Posted by: periculum | August 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

What's the story with the special team blocking? It was terrible last year and might be even worst now...

Posted by: siris | August 24, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

wow that is a bad tattoo!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 24, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

really bad tat.

Lorenzo Llamas has a tattoo.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

lol peri.

my prom involved much more vomit. MUCH more.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

count me as panicked if JC's accuracy is a problem in the next game or 2.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"If you have a QB struggling with accuracy, it's MO to call simple easy completions to help get the rhythm/confidence up."

Probably true. But the thing is, Zorn didn't do it in the Steelers game. And even though Campbell was 1/7, the Skins still moved the ball to the 2 yard line. Which is why I'm not freaking out the way all the Colt/Chase/Collins chasers are.

I gave props to Zorn earlier about this. It seems like he's taking his playbook to the next level. He called multiple deep passes very early on, and even though they weren't connecting, he didn't shy away. I maintain that a lot of the success of the running game was assisted by Zorn's playcalls in stretching the defense.

And seriously, does even the most ardent Campbell detractor really expect him to continue anywhere near a 1/7 pace? A lot of his detractors came into the offseason saying he's slow with his decisions, he's afraid to pull the trigger, and he can't read the defense. Was any of that on display on Saturday? No. He cleaned all that up. All that was missing was his accuracy. Now if people want to jump on that boat and say that will be the reason for his demise, fine with me. I'll take our chances with Campbell's history in that area proving adequate.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the eyeglasses hanging from the S?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 24, 2009 3:14 PM

Or with the "God's Son"? Wasn't that Jesus's job? Was his mother a virgin?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 24, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

With Campbell, I won't worry until at least game 2 of the regular season. Last year he was a disaster vs the jints in game 1 -- and by the next week, he was playing well.

A player that looks bad can actually be pretty close to ready. And we've got nearly 3 weeks to opening day ...

I'm not worried

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 24, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Somebody compared Marko to Randy Moss? I suppose that's valid, except for speed. Marko was 14th at his combine, right after Jeremy Maclin. Randy Moss is quite a bit faster...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 24, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the eyeglasses hanging from the S?

Posted by: learnedhand1 |


He a Mormon..How'd you expect to get straight with Jesus if you can't read the damn manual??

Posted by: frak | August 24, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Why would anybody focus on Jason Campbell's accuracy in the first couples series of two preseason games, when he had one of the higher completion % in the league last season?

Has he started throwing left-handed or something?

Jeez, preseason... brings out the tin foil hats.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the eyeglasses hanging from the S?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 24, 2009 3:14 PM

I have no clue, but he seems to still be on 'Big MAn on Campus' college mode....

'SuperCoolBeas' though? SMH....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I love the part in the book of mormon that talks about 1/8 bags.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I love when the Mormon's come knocking at my door. My girlfriend runs to the closet and gets the top hat out, then opens the door and say's "Hold on" sticks her face in the hat and says "go".

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I am always worried. Not sure what over the last 16 years would make anyone confident. Worrying=watching skins. Thats why beer and junk food and maybe some wacky tabac are must have stimulants to get me from KO to final snap.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 24, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

t_e, God's Son is a hip-hop thing. Like dudes from NY who call each other God, or God body, etc....

Really just backs the thought that we're all "God's Children".

That Beasley tat is kinda lame, but he's suffering from mental issues, what do you expect form the man?

Kinda of off subject:

I know some of you may browse through Black Men, KINGS, or some other hip-hop magazines. Every now and then the have some models (eye candy) in there.

Anyway, I'm "browsing" the internet, and I came across a Amber Easton video. Yeah, that's right, the 'Hip Hop Honeys' Amber Easton. And I'm not talkin' her usual softcore stuff neither.

Hardcore "spankie" certified video(s) at that. She instantly became the baddest broad in "tha bizness" with that video. I go to her website to see if it's a fluke, and sho' nuff, she haas not one, but TWO videos.

I might be late finding this out. But I'd be lying if I said i wasn't shock. Now if Melyssa Ford starts doing vidz, I'd lose all hope... in a good way that is.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Sports commentator on Planet Zorn:

First and Ten
"Campbell drops back to pass. He waits, taps the football, and then he throws... it's in the dirt. Well, you have to admire the decision-making on that play. Beautiful decision-making. Just Beautiful."

Second and Ten
"Okay, here we are on second down. Jason Campbell drops back to pass. He winds up. He throws the ball and it is... out of bounds. Great decision making again. Wow, he just is tearing up the decision making today fans. This is the kind of decision making a coach dreams of. Absolutely great decision making."

Third and Ten
"Alright. It's third and long. Campbell drops back to pass. Ohhhhh. He was blindsided by a defender and he goes down hard. Sack. You know. It looked like just before he went down that he was going to make a great decision. You could see it in his eyes right before they almost popped out of his head."

Fourth and Seventeen
"Well, the punter comes in, but don't you fans worry. This quarterback is making great decisions and come the regular season, I think you are going to see more of the great decision making that has gotten this team to where they are now..."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 24, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Chris I think you need to meet my friend the Pint of Ice Cream of defeat, and his arch rival, the Pint of Ice Cream of Victory.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

And seriously, does even the most ardent Campbell detractor really expect him to continue anywhere near a 1/7 pace? A lot of his detractors came into the offseason saying he's slow with his decisions, he's afraid to pull the trigger, and he can't read the defense. Was any of that on display on Saturday? No. He cleaned all that up. All that was missing was his accuracy. Now if people want to jump on that boat and say that will be the reason for his demise, fine with me. I'll take our chances with Campbell's history in that area proving adequate.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse


First, I'm not a Campbell detractor. I've been sticking up for him to the extent that I think he needs more than one year in an offense before we can fairly evaluate him.

My concern is that so far in preseason, I've still not seen him put anything together. It's his big year, shouldn't we expect him to show something on the field that suggests he's improved. 1/7 clunkers doesn't cut it. And if we're feeling fine b/c at least those incompletions came on deep throws, then we've set the bar pretty low.


BTW - did anyone notice that the last 2 plays of that first drive against Pittsburgh (Ladell Betts over LT) was a mirror image of the last 2 plays called against the Giants when Ladell twice got stuffed at the goal-line w/ time expiring and we lost the game?...just sayin...

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for that RedDMV.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 24, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Key points afte watching game -

Not worried about JC yet...

CP is done. First 3 years in league - averaged 5.2 YPC. Last 3 years in league - averaged 4.1 YPC.

Needed a fake punt to avoid 3 and out.

Only twice in the last 17 season have we won 10 games.

Have good back-up QBs and some talent at the ball catching positions... OL will get creamed by a talented DC.

Defense... only thing that will keep us in games... worried about LF matching up in pass coverage... need to create more turnovers or we could be looking at 4-12.

Special teams - too early to tell...

Posted by: oldnova | August 24, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's alleged high passing percentage could be viewed like this:

If one of your boys claimed he got a lot of chicks on his roster, but when you see them they're all unattractive chicks, I'm talkin' Sam Cassell in the face type chicks, would you really be all that impressed with your homeboy. Probably not.

Jason Campbell completes a lot of "Sam Cassell in the face" type passes. Checkdowns, screens, and that type of stuff. Not the stuff that makes you go "Daaaaaamn" when you see it.

He struggles with the "dime piece passes", like throwing to the side lines, hitting receivers in stride, or long passes that are over 20 yards.

Seems like a lot of you think p**** is p****, I'll take anything as long it's walking upright. F that, gimme the sexy joints!

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Colt said that throwing an interception was like walking along thinking you're cool and then tripping up and falling down..Now, Red Skelton used to do this fairly regularly, but he was always stoned..Could our boy from Hawaii be walkin' on the Maui Wowie Line?? He looks totally stoner..

Posted by: frak | August 24, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

"And if we're feeling fine b/c at least those incompletions came on deep throws, then we've set the bar pretty low."

No, we're feeling fine b/c the 1/7 statistic is an anomaly for Jason Campbell.

The other areas where people were looking for improvement -- aggression, quickness of thought, decisiveness -- that stuff was all there. There's a reason Jim Zorn was less than harsh in his critique of Campbell, despite his box score.

But again, if people want to be concerned because of his accuracy, be my guest (and I'm not just talking about you p1funk). IF inaccuracy becomes a consistent pattern, it's a bad thing, without a doubt.

But I'll take my chances regarding that.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 24, 2009 3:48 PM

Exactly....

DMV - I hope you are at home.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

reddmv: "If one of your boys claimed he got a lot of chicks on his roster, but when you see them they're all unattractive chicks, I'm talkin' Sam Cassell in the face type chicks, would you really be all that impressed with your homeboy."

Wow. Eddie Griffin is posting here.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 24, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Jason Campbell completes a lot of "Sam Cassell in the face" type passes. Checkdowns, screens, and that type of stuff. Not the stuff that makes you go "Daaaaaamn" when you see it."

Highly stylish and entertaining post, Red. Props for that.

Thing about this is, Campbell's accuracy noticeably improved as his YPA improved. His most accurate stretch of the season came when he was averaged over 8 yards per attempt (67% on 8.26 YPA in October), while his least accurate stretch came when he was averaging just over 5 YPC (58% on 5.35 YPA in December).

Like I said, so long as the aggression continues, I'll take my chances.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"I'm talkin' Sam Cassell in the face type chicks"

You mean the Alien Bats reproduce??

Posted by: frak | August 24, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Nupe, In da workplace. Saw the vidz this weekend while "browsing" online.

Fellas, don't matter if you're white, black, or green. That Amber Easton chick is a fine piece of ash, lemme tell ya!

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

PSP - Explain the YPA relative to all 32 teams/QB Starters. What percentile does JC17 rank?

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 24, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

i was just reading on redskins. com that Zorn said points matter in preseason and when you drive down to the 2 you want to finish with a TD...

the why the F do you hand it off to a 30 year old 2nd string RB against last years best defense?? that pisses me off give it to #1 or throw it, or take your FG and be happy

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 24, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

CP is done. First 3 years in league - averaged 5.2 YPC. Last 3 years in league - averaged 4.1 YPC.

Posted by: oldnova | August 24, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

This is just ignorant.

CP was 4th in the league in rushing last year. He changed his running style and body-type to accomodate a whole new offensive system when he moved from Denver to Washington and was still successful, even broke the Skins single season team rushing record.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | August 24, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Red, if his life coach was forcing him to go to bars with only unattractive women, and he was still making the best of it, then it wouldn't really warrant criticism.

When Campbells coach is only calling plays that give him the option of check downs, screens, and that type of stuff, you can't really blame Campbell for only completing those types of passes.

Posted by: -swb | August 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

pabrian2003,
Amen. This is where the Redskins could really use a bull of a running back. They don't really have a true short yardage back.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

But again, if people want to be concerned because of his accuracy, be my guest (and I'm not just talking about you p1funk). IF inaccuracy becomes a consistent pattern, it's a bad thing, without a doubt.

But I'll take my chances regarding that.

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

My concern is that he's not put together a drive yet, and still has not delivered even a competent performance in preseason yet.

That's all I'm asking for - one drive.

Posted by: p1funk | August 24, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

beepers creepers

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 24, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Once CP starts averaging below 4 yards per carry and no longer rings up 1200 and 8 td's at minimum then we can consider him done. Until then, the guy is 27 and still one of our best players.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | August 24, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The O line, run game and defense were better than average, as was the hustle. I think the fans want a QB that wins games and trophies; no matter his name is.

BeantownGreg1 I was at the game, and believe me both screen pass plays had no chance. The throw that was really bad was the third down one to Moss that was high. Moss had 10 YAC on that one. Interestingly enough, on the first deep ball to Kelly, Moss had come WIDE open on the crossing route about 15-20 yards down field. I understand the skins wanting to get/giving a look at the ball, but I would hope that JC would have gotten Moss the ball on that one during the regular season.

Posted by: TWISI | August 24, 2009 9:20 AM

This description seems to pertain to reading the field and releasing the ball on time, not accuracy. Unfortunately, soupy has progressed little since his sophomore year at Auburn. He reminds me of Jay Schroeder with a higher completion %, yet less Pro-Bowls and playoff appearances. I think soup will be replaced by week 5 if DC is 1-3.

Posted by: Realness1 | August 24, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

psps, those stats you just gave are "transgender" stats. They look good, but they're MOST definitely aren't all good...

p1, I didn't read the rest of that post once I read: "CP is done." The post was flushed as soon as I read that opening.

Campbell detractors I can understand, but Portis detractors?... wtf..smh...

Posted by: RedDMV | August 24, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Thing about this is, Campbell's accuracy noticeably improved as his YPA improved. His most accurate stretch of the season came when he was averaged over 8 yards per attempt (67% on 8.26 YPA in October), while his least accurate stretch came when he was averaging just over 5 YPC (58% on 5.35 YPA in December).

Posted by: psps23 | August 24, 2009 4:04 PM

This really tells us nothing and it doesn't acutally prove your point. When the team was winning in October, CP had it going and JC was throwing a bunch of safe passes and had hit some big ones against lesser comp - thus the higher completion %age. When things were going bad December, Jason was dinking and dunking at a higher clip under pressure and duress - thus the fall off in %age and YPC.


Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 24, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

As i predicted, the Brennan faithful out here are all bunged up over his failure to completely dominate the Redskins camp, LOL.

Local morning drive sports guy spent the end of an interview with a national guy from SI talking about Colt, LOL.

This was followed up by callers theorizing how Colt is failing because Zorn is changing him up; how he isn't getting enough reps, blah blah blah.

Its pretty funny.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 24, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

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