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Ain't 300 Grand, Um, Grand?

Congratulations to you all -- and thanks. You've broken the 300,000 comments barrier (we're at 300,151) and we're all most grateful for the way you've been BYGO (and TYGO for the twitterers). In fact, 300,151 TCCLs* to you all for your smart, funny and provocative work. Celebrate with some M&Ms.

We'll be back shortly with the latest installment of the positional analysis; today we start with the offense.

*Tom Cruise Couch Leaps. Don't make us tell you again.

By Cindy Boren  |  January 7, 2009; 8:05 AM ET
 
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The FIRST thing I would do...is blame the Source Meter on JLC.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | January 7, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

In the words of Doc Holliday:

Is'nt that a Daisy.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV is the third dumbest poster here.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV is the third dumbest poster here.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 8:20 AM |

Truth,

Who's 1 and 2

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Pete Kendall was on the local sports talk radio up here in Boston at 8 this morning. I didn't catch any of the conversation, but I'm sure it didn't have a lot to do with the Redskins. He's a BC guy, and a former Jet, so I'm sure most of it centered around those topics...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Theres a wast'o'time for us, who is the dumbest poster here. I think I get to be no 1 best worst speller.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

They have braught in FA's who have been fine, you do not have to give up on FA's just because you had some duds. They just need to make smart choices and not overpay.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 8:07 AM

Disagree, Flounder...the reason Haynesworth won't work here isn't because of the FA record here as a whole, but because the similarities to Stubblefield pre-FA signing are staggering. Dude plays on a line with at least one other Pro-Bowler, has a HUGE contract year that trumps any prior seasons and has a rep for not being very motivated when millions of FA dollars aren't on the line. I would rather make a run at Dwan Edwards out of Baltimore because that's a lower risk/lower $ acquisition.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 7, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Finally I get some TCCLs

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | January 7, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't go for Haynesworth.

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | January 7, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

brown, as long as Edwards back was given clearance by a Dr. then yeah, he's the type of guy I'm interested in bringing in. He spent last year on IR I believe....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

He'll get all this money and get bloated and hurt. Go after Peppers or Suggs...

Posted by: PrisonBalls00 | January 7, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Disagree, Flounder...the reason Haynesworth won't work here isn't because of the FA record here as a whole, but because the similarities to Stubblefield pre-FA signing are staggering. Dude plays on a line with at least one other Pro-Bowler, has a HUGE contract year that trumps any prior seasons and has a rep for not being very motivated when millions of FA dollars aren't on the line. I would rather make a run at Dwan Edwards out of Baltimore because that's a lower risk/lower $ acquisition.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 7, 2009 8:42 AM |

Again I'm not pushing Haynesworth, I'm just saying you can not give up on big time FA's because of something that happened 11 years ago.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I would prefer Canty I think he would be a good fit, and he must want to get out of that he!! hole in Dallas.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone enjoys the obsession with Tom Cruise on the blog.

I find it and the TCCLs a huge waste of my time. I get as excited for TCCLs as I do for seeing another Leigh Torrence man-love post.

Posted by: HokiePaul | January 7, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

300,001 posts......?

How high would that number be but for the silly and insane issue of work?

I personally would like to thank all the bumbling, stumbling, rumbling highly paid little people in burgandy 'n gold for my own contributions to the hurricane of criticism that blows their way.

Perhaps next season, we'll all post about how great things are....11-5, playoffs is possible....

...as are 302,000 posts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 7, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

What is the first off-season move, I believe it will be cutting some of the vets, to clear up cap space.

Griff
Taylor
Springs
Washington

These cats should be gone, and I don't want to here how they may have one year left or we don't have replacements.

This frees up 20mil you can get a lot of quality players with that money.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

...and oh, maybe the Haynesworth money should go towards a left guard or two linebackers.

Or Darren Sproles, Bart Scott, and Channing Crowder specifically.

Maybe the light comes on for Golston and Montegomery, meaning Griffin play sparingly, but better with the rest.

..oops, 303,000 posts!

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 7, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Flound, take griff out of that equation, and I'm with you 100 percent.

I'm on board with Canty as well, he's a UVA guy isn't he?? He's got the kind of size you want achoring against the run.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

From PFT,

HECKERT EMERGES AS CANDIDATE FOR BROWNS JOB
Posted by Mike Florio on January 7, 2009, 9:04 a.m. EST
Eagles G.M. Tom Heckert technically doesn’t fit the official NFL anti-tampering policy definition of the term ”General Manager” because he doesn’t have final say over the Eagles’ draft, or the team’s 53-man roster.

But he possibly could be getting such authority in Cleveland.

According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Browns have requested permission to interview Heckert. The man who previously held the title, Phil Savage, had final say over the roster and the draft.

Under a new procedure adopted by the league in October 2008, a non-high-level front-office employee of a team still alive in the playoffs may interview for high-level jobs with other teams, but only with the permission of his current employer.

In other words, the Eagles can tell the Browns to get bent, at least until the Eagles get beat.

Philly also block the move if the new job doesn’t entail control of the draft or authority over the roster. Coach Andy Reid possesses “final say” with the Eagles.

Heckert’s standing in Philadelphia isn’t clear. When the Vikings came sniffing around three years ago, he scored a promotion to G.M. Last year, however, the Eagles seemed to be anxious to move on, with owner Jeffrey Lurie personally recommending Heckert to Falcons owner Arthur Blank for the G.M. job in Atlanta. (Former Patriots director of college scouting Thomas Dimitroff eventually was hired over Heckert.)

Since then, the team promoted Howie Roseman to the position of V.P. of player personnel, and there’s a loose sense in some league circles that Roseman is the real No. 2 man behind Reid.

Most recently, rumors and speculation had linked Heckert to the Lions. But it recently was reported that Heckert has no interest in joining the team.

As Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer points out, Heckert’s candidacy in Cleveland could be evidence of a potential pairing with Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, a former Eagles defensive assistant.

Thus, “Spagert” could end up being an alternative to what one league source has described to us as “Mankok” – the possible joint hire of coach Eric Mangini and G.M. George Kokinis.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

i think springs should stay 8 healthy games with him is better than i cant catch an int get beat deep rogers

Posted by: mudman220 | January 7, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

Why do you want to keep Griff, he will continue to get injured and is not the same player he was 2 years ago.

But you are entilted to your opinion.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Guys, deep down we all know how it's going to shake out with Haynesworth. If we sign him to a big contract, he's gonna be a dud. If we don't, he's gonna sign with some other team and go to the ProBowl for the next 5 years...that's just how it is. The sooner we accept it, the better...

Posted by: p1funk | January 7, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

This post makes me think Cindy 'hired' a long-time lurker just to get to 300K.

Nothing like putting a little cat poop in the sandbox to get the pre-schoolers riled up.

i'm the biggest sucker wading maybe two hours through the comments. I need some dramamine.

Posted by: bangkokben | January 7, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

“Mankok” – the possible joint hire of coach Eric Mangini and G.M. George Kokinis.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse


I'd have gone with Mankinis.

Posted by: Original_etrod | January 7, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

300K posts.

What do you think is the over/under on the # of those posts that rip JLa to high heaven?

Posted by: p1funk | January 7, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Flound, I guess after looking at the stats, you might have a point. He has been on a downward spiral since 2 years ago...he might have to go as well...somehow I was thinking he was more effective than he was....

On a seperate note, have you been playing Wii Baseball much?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

On a seperate note, have you been playing Wii Baseball much?

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 9:25 AM |

Yes the Wii sport version and it sucks, but I can hit some long homeruns.

The Tennis and Bowling are fun.

My kids love the Rayman Raving Rabids game, you should get that if you do not already have it.

Marion Galaxy is a good game as well.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Haven't been on here in a while since (tried to change my user ID a few times and eventually gave up) but getting flak from Ravens fans (whatever, they still wear purple) made me have to check in.

I'll most likely get flogged for saying it, but if we don't feel that there are any good DTs/DEs/OTs worth taking @ 13, we should grab Maualuga if he's available. LFB isn't gonna be around more than another year or two and 58 would learn a ton from LFB. Just sayin'. Man, it sucks to be talking about the draft when the Wildcards just ended...

[cc]

Posted by: countystyle | January 7, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

P1funk
I am guessing 14% ripping JLC, 11% ripping the FO, 8 %, 25% of people blogging while watching the game, 5% calls for Colt, another 5% of opposing fans coming to trash talk, 20% jib-jab and another 8% drunken jib-jab, 3% Larry Michael secretly blogging to bash JLC. and a final 1% of guys saying F Chris Larry.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

my kids LOVE the tennis and bowling, my girls do anyway, somehow my 5 year old is better at the bowling than ANYONE in the family. My son likes the baseball. I've been playing baseball too, and have gotten my skill level to over 1000, it gets NASTY. Pitchers throwing 102 mph fastballs, 99mph curves, then they'll drop a 66 mph splitter on you.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

alex35332,

You had a random 8% in there.

I'd break that down by saying 4% thanking Cindy for putting up with JLa and all of us; 4% making fun of Reid for broadcasting "Unrestricted" from the men's room.

Posted by: p1funk | January 7, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

LOL,
In what I had written down I was going back and forth with a text doc to make sure I got to 100%, I did have that as 8% comments on Reid's location. Which in hindsight is high.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I enjoy the Wii baseball as well, although I suck at it. If I'm not hitting grounders straight to the pitcher then its a rocket fly ball to center-field that falls just short of the wall for an easy out.

Golf and Bowling are my faves.

Posted by: Predator48 | January 7, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Pfunk, How can you tell the drunken jib-jab from the regular kind?

Plus I think the number for ripping the FO is a bit low. Especially of late.

Posted by: Predator48 | January 7, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Guys, deep down we all know how it's going to shake out with Haynesworth. If we sign him to a big contract, he's gonna be a dud. If we don't, he's gonna sign with some other team and go to the ProBowl for the next 5 years...that's just how it is. The sooner we accept it, the better...

Posted by: p1funk | January 7, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse


Amen brutha!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 7, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I thought we all knew Haynesworth was gonna be resigned by Tenn anyway.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

"I'm on board with Canty as well, he's a UVA guy isn't he?? He's got the kind of size you want achoring against the run. "
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Yeah Chris Canty went to UVA.. he's a 3-4 mold DE ... going 6'7 and 290. Not the classic 4-3 speed DE but he'd be a good run stuffer and also provide bull rushing pressure.. plus 6'7 hight to knock down passes. I'd LOVE to see Canty come to DC.. he'd be a run down end and we could use the smaller speed rush guys (Wilson, Rob Jackson, etc) on passing downs.


I don't like Terrel Suggs or Julius Peppers. Maybe a few years ago on Peppers..but he's over the hill and will slow down even more next year.

Suggs is a great rush LB but that's it. He was a DE in college so expecting him to come to DC and play OLB is ridiculous..he'd be terrible at playing traditonal 4-3 OLB.. and we don't need another undersized DE.

Posted by: cwprice2 | January 7, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

count me as one against Haynesworth, he's been around a while, and has a lot of mileage on him...he's maybe good for a year, or two before age might start creeping into the equation.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Reggie Bush is reported to have had microfracture surgery. What a shame. I have to admit, he was one of my favorite non-Redskins players to watch. He was having a breakout year leading the league in TDs before he got hurt.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Always risky to sign a really, really overpriced free agent coming off a contract year in which he greatly exceeded his typical prior performance.

That would be Dana Stubblefield the Second, all right.

The better bet is to look for free agents who are undervalued, usually because they're coming off a year when they didn't perform to their prior levels, for one reason or another.

For instance, they were playing for the Raiders, who actually seem to suppress performance in some players. Randy Moss, for one.

By this standard, Jason Taylor looks like a good purchase...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 7, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

And something to note about Haynesworth - only once in his career has he ever played 16 games. That was his rookie year in 2002.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

From PFT,

LAST WORD (FOR NOW) ON MILLEN
Posted by Mike Florio on January 7, 2009, 9:39 a.m. EST
We’re prepared to put this whole Matt Millen thing to bed, for now, by poining out two recent items published elsewhere.

And, of course, by inserting our own half-cocked takes.

First, Richard Sandomir of the New York Times recently addressed Millen’s sudden return to broadcasting. Per Sandomir, NBC and ESPN could be wrangling for Millen’s services. And this has triggered some speculation that Millen could end up on Monday Night Football, if Tony Kornheiser finally decides that three years is two years and sixteen weeks too many.

For now, Millen will join the NBC team for the network’s coverage of Super Bowl XLIII.

As to whether Millen’s tenure in Detroit has left him tainted for television, Millen told Sandomir, “I don’t know. I don’t know how that is. Everybody has an opinion.”

He’s right. Everybody does have an opinion. And the problem is that, in our assessment, 25 to 30 percent of the audience will always have a very negative opinion of Millen based solely and exclusively on his performance in Detroit.

Here’s the deeper issue, as we see it. Millen made more money in one year from the Fords than more than 95 percent of the population will earn in a lifetime. And plenty of people believe that, when it became apparent a couple of years ago to everyone except William Clay Ford, Sr. that Millen was actually earning only a small fraction of that amount while commuting back and forth to Pennsylvania every weekend, Millen should have done the right thing and resigned.

It was and is, in our view, Millen’s decision to hunker down and continue to rake in $5 million per year that ruins him for us, even more than the 0-16 record that some think should be tattooed on his forehead.

Continued

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

And while most of the non-Detroit media hasn’t reacted negatively to Millen’s return to television, which NBC knew that it had to spring on the viewing public like a second-quarter onside kick, Jason Whitlock of FOXSports.com joins the small chorus of folks who are troubled by Millen’s presence on the airwaves.

Of course, Whitlock is more than troubled. He’s flat-out Tulsa 45, Ball State 13 pissed.

“Any list of all-time worst TV decisions must include Millen being run out as the lead studio analyst at playoff time,” Whitlock writes. “Are you kidding me? Was O.J. Simpson denied phone privileges?”

We’re not sure that it’s one of the all-time worst decisions in television history, but we still have serious reservations about it.

Not because of Millen’s broadcasting skills. Let’s face it, he was good enough behind the mic to persuade the Ford family that he should be running an NFL team.

The problem here is that Millen was the stubborn captain of pro football’s Titanic. And, after apparently deciding that hitting an iceberg is a good thing, Millen decided to go down with the ship — at least until the owner of the ship kicked him off it.

Continued

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

So, yeah, Millen was a great player. He was and is a great broadcaster. But he is tainted. He is stained. He will not be taken seriously by enough of the audience, no matter what he says or does.

And whoever hires him risks the same credibility hit that Millen necessarily took by not admitting to himself and the rest of us that he was unfit for the job he previously held, and by not walking away from it before his dignity sank to the bottom of Lake Erie.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

From CFT,

JAGODZINSKI, DEFILIPPO MEETING
Posted by Mike Florio on January 7, 2009, 10:00 a.m. EST
Dan Patrick, who has been as plugged in as anyone regarding the bizarre developments at Boston College, reports that coach Jeff Jagodzinski currently is meeting with Athletic Director Gene DeFilippo regarding Jagodzinski’s interview for the Jets head-coaching job.

Per Patrick, DeFilippo got his DeFruit of the Looms in a bunch because he learned of Jagodzinski’s interview with the Jets from a reporter.

Supposedly, if Jagodzinski had merely sought permission to interview for the job, DeFilippo would have been placated.

It remains to be seen whether this can be worked out. All prior signs indicated that Jagodzinski would be fired.

Maybe DeFilippo realizes that it costs a lot less money to swallow pride than it does to buy out a head-coaching contract.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

i would love to see chris canty as a redskin

Posted by: FAB88 | January 7, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Matthew Stafford and Knowshon Rockwell Moreno to announce their decisions on the NFL Draft today at THREE O'CLOCK PM PEOPLE!


THIS IS EARTH-SHATTERING NEWS

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Just to remind everyone where we are coming from a year ago.

The examiner had a longwinded type thing and ended with this video as a reminder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-pcmIHH5Y&eurl=http://www.examiner.com/x-450-Washington-Redskins-Examiner~y2009m1d7-The-2008-Washington-Redskins-part-one&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I see the weekly trip to the computer lab was earlier this morning for TheTruth.

Thats it, no more tit-for-tat from me today.

Say what you will, but I have no doubt that the rift from yesterday between myself and 'tard boy heavily contributed to the 300K mark.

It's raining, and the secret service has highjacked our building... I think its going to be one of THOSE days.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

What is the first off-season move, I believe it will be cutting some of the vets, to clear up cap space.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:08 AM |

I don't remember the date by which you have to get back under a cap again, but I recall that you can be over (projected) for a while.

Anyway, my first offseason amateur GM move(s) would be to get D'Angelo Hall and Demetric Evans under contract.

Whenever free agency starts, my first move as of that date would be to find and pay for whoever is the best free agent kicker (I'm thinking Bironas, feel free to chime in ... as if I have to even say that).

Sorry, Shaun Suisham. One too many missed FGs (after one of the too many times we had to settle for three instead of six).

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

dc,

I think the cuts will come first because you do not have to wait for FA's to start, however signing Hall can be done anytime and hopefully they are already working on that.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

And something to note about Haynesworth - only once in his career has he ever played 16 games. That was his rookie year in 2002.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 10:08 AM

Jordan Gross started every game for the Panthers since he was drafted (in the first round) in 2003. Of course, he will be playing LT for the Panthers in the Super Bowl this year, then he's off to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl, and the Panthers put a franchise tag on him last year, so I'm sure he'll come cheap.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Am I correct in assuming there will be no post-June 1 cap casualties this year, due to the CBA? Will all the expendable vets be cut for the beginning of free agency?

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

++++Anyway, my first offseason amateur GM move(s) would be to get D'Angelo Hall and Demetric Evans under contract.

Whenever free agency starts, my first move as of that date would be to find and pay for whoever is the best free agent kicker (I'm thinking Bironas, feel free to chime in ... as if I have to even say that).

Sorry, Shaun Suisham. One too many missed FGs (after one of the too many times we had to settle for three instead of six).+++
Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 10:42 AM

I agree. Get Evans & Hall under contract and then when FA starts, bring in a FA kicker like Bironas or Shayne Graham. Someone? Anyone who can kick a field goal?

Posted by: matthewvickers | January 7, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Am I correct in assuming there will be no post-June 1 cap casualties this year, due to the CBA? Will all the expendable vets be cut for the beginning of free agency?

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 10:48 AM |

I believe that is correct, although I think they get something done before they go uncapped.

But as it stands now there are no post June 1st cuts.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Can we also make sure the new K can consistently kickoff past the 15 yard line without a 25 mph wind @ his back?

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Posted by: countystyle | January 7, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Here's the play nobody is talking about. Re-sign Hall, trade Springs for whatever value you can get (even if it's a 5/6/7 rounder), trade Rogers for a 2nd round pick, then sign Nnamdi Asomugha. Shed more salary by cutting Washington and Jason Taylor, use that money to sign Jordan Gross. Use the 1st rounder on a DE, 2nd rounder on a G/C, 3rd rounder on a OLB. Sign Karlos Dansby. Use the 5th rounder on another G/C, the 6th rounder on a speedy young RB, then use the pick we got from Springs on an OT. I'd like to sign Peppers and Haynesworth too, but unfortunately that's unrealistic.

Seriously, I should be a gm. Perfect.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

psps23, the unrealistic part is ... well ... all of it. Starting with signing both Asomugha and Gross to the same roster (esp. after reaching a deal that would be OK with Hall).

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

+++smart, funny and provocative work. +++--JLC

M&Ms? You cheap Bustard. We want the Serial rights.

Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

+++RedDMV is the third dumbest poster here.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 8:20 AM |

Truth,

Who's 1 and 2

Posted by: Flounder21+++

Got a mirror?

Ah come on...That was a set up man's set up line if ever I saw one....

Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

+++Pete Kendall was on the local sports talk radio up here in Boston at 8 this morning. I didn't catch any of the conversation, but I'm sure it didn't have a lot to do with the Redskins. He's a BC guy, and a former Jet, so I'm sure most of it centered around those topics...

Posted by: BeantownGreg ++++

Thanks for the detailed, source-laden update. Any thoughts on what a lousy reporter JLC is...

What, you people been to Straiht Man's school?


Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

corky, go hold your breath for a while....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

+++They have braught in FA's who have been fine, you do not have to give up on FA's just because you had some duds. They just need to make smart choices and not overpay.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 8:07 AM++++


You hit the nail on the head. Now, as soon as they replace Cerrato, your technique can begin. It's in the percentages of duds to smart choices that the problem lies.

Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Cork, one person can't be #1 AND #2

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Unrealistic? Nooo. So long as we wish it hard enough, it will come true.

BTW, i've found another addition. Cut Griffin, use that immediate space to sign Haynesworth. But we still can't get Peppers on the roster. He's just not feasible.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

+++corky, go hold your breath for a while....

Posted by: BeantownGreg +++

Hey JLC, which was that snappy retort by my main man Beantown..."smart, funny or provocative?"

While you're in Boston, go to Jimmy's and order some Chowduh.

Then fart twice, break a twenty, and head to the Combat Zone for a good time. If you pass 7 Bulfinch Plaza, flip it off for me, will ya?

Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Got a mirror?

Ah come on...That was a set up man's set up line if ever I saw one....

Posted by: TheCork | January 7, 2009 11:08 AM |

Corky made a little joke thats funny, now please get back to what you are good at bashing the FO's.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Count me as all in for Canty. Getting him would be the sensible move.

Unfortunately Danny boy likes to have a big name he can hype to the fans for next year, so Haynesworth will probably be the move he makes.

Posted by: Predator48 | January 7, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Sure corky, I'll do that...right after you go take a nap in the garage with the car running, let that engine purr you right to sleep.....nite, nite....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, if this has been discussed...but...I am just getting caught up on a few posts. This was from the DTackle Review posted yesterday by JLC..


++Golston had a few superb games, but he is a classic overachiever, getting every ounce from his frame and natural ability. He's in that Brandon Noble mold,++


Am I confused about the Brandon Noble being a classic overacheiver comment?? Did I miss something. To be an overachiever, don't you have to ...achieve?

Posted by: cej75024 | January 7, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Just thought I'd post how my home town Falcons faired in the 2008 draft. And this is not all their picks, just the rookies who made significant contributions. I won't bother mentioning Ryan, since that's a given. There new GM is something serious, he didn't hesistate to discard Atl staples like Warrick Dunn and Alge Crumpler last off season and there's already talk that Keith Brooking (Atl native and former pro bowler) will be gone next year along with a few other veterans to make room for younger players in draft and FA.

1st round, 21st: LT Baker-played in 8 games due to injury, but started 5 when healthy (the pick Cerrato decided to trade to acquire more picks)

2nd round, 37nd: LB Curtis Lofton-87tkls, 1 sack, immediate starter, future Pro Bowler

3rd round, 68th: CB Chevis Jackson-38tkls, 1 INT for TD, already a solid backup

3rd round,(from Skins) 84th: WR Harry Douglas-23 rec 320yds 1TD(more catches, yds, and TD's then the three amigos) and 1TD on Punt return

5th round, (from Skins) 154th: LB/DE Kroy Biermann-14tkls 2 sacks

That's five rookies who made an immediate impact their rookie yr...And mind you that only two of these guys are actually starters.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 7, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

ga,

Not going to argue about Dimitroff, he learned in one of the best FO's in the league.

A GM's job is to make the team better for the long haul, not to worry about keeping agimg Vets around because they once were good players for the team.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Random Jib-thought-jab
Can Dan Snyder and Ted Lerner possibly swap the teams that they both own? Or can any doctors here preform a brain transplant?

Lerner seems to look to hiring people who have a solid rep in the business and willing to stick with a logical plan even if it means a losing year. In a league where he would not get outbid on a big name FA thanks to the cap+ an understanding of growing through youth I think he would have done better for us as a Skins owner.

Snyder knows only how to throw money at a problem which is great in a league where the buy-a-team philosophy works because individual talent is not as codependent on team play, a guy who is going to knock out 40 homers will do it for anyone.

Anyone else think that would work better for DC fans?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I would like the Redskins to inquiry about Tank Johnson (Defensive Tackle)...

TJ does not have the stats like Haynesworth. TJ does have the experience of playing in the NFC East for two seasons and his cost against the salary cap will not be that great compared to Haynesworth.

Finally, he would be an awesome compliment to Cornelius Griffin (who is on his way out) and to Jeria Perry (my suggested 1st round pick).

Posted by: tmcmullins | January 7, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

did he really just say Tank Johnson? No thanks....

Posted by: chrislarry | January 7, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

over 300,000 posts...?
How many would it be without all the "FIRST!!!"
What's that all about anyway? Who cares if you're forst to post? Get a life!

Posted by: al852 | January 7, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

What is the first off-season move, I believe it will be cutting some of the vets, to clear up cap space.

Griff
Taylor
Springs
Washington

These cats should be gone, and I don't want to here how they may have one year left or we don't have replacements.

This frees up 20mil you can get a lot of quality players with that money.


Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, I agree that these guys are older, prone to injury and the FO needs to inject some youth on this roster. BUT: you dont always want to have a high roster turnover. It can kill team chemistry. All those new players they could acquire with 20million under the cap would have to learn the system not to mention the coaches, and the DC area. It doesnt make for a smooth transition.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Darren Sproles, Mista Moe?

No thanks. He has had one big playoff game. So did Timmy Smith.

Sproles didn't do much during the regular season with LT out, he's way too small, and I thought the Dolts' defense had a terrible game. Especially Bethea, getting run over by a 5'6" guy for a TD?

Can you believe someone actually wants to hire Mike Nolan? What an old boy network the NFL is.

Agree on not signing Haynesworth. What happened to the last monster DL to come out of Tennessee? How's The Freak doing up in Philly? Add to the fact that Haynesworth will probably be on a SB team, which will jack the price up even more. Forget it: Stubby II the Skins don't need.

I think they need to get the highest impact player available at #13 with position exceptions.

Position exceptions: don't take a QB. Don't take a RB. Don't take a WR or TE/K/P. Not only do the Skins have talent here, those positions are either easy to fill through FA, take a lot of time to develop, or in the case of TE/K/P don't have enough impact to justify a high draft choice.

DO take defense and OL. If Oher is there, take him (and hope he's not Andre Johnson). If Mays is there, take him.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 7, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think that would work better for DC fans?

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 11:35 AM |

Lerner is very cheap, the only reason he even made that offer for Trax. was because he knew he would be outbid. Now he can say we tried but we will suck again next year.

I'll bet they make no more plays in FA's unless it is a very cheap vet.

Snyder might not spend money wisely but atleast he spends.

If we had Lerner everyone would be on here crying about how cheap he is.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I think they need to get the highest impact player available at #13 with position exceptions.

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 7, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

with PLAYER EXCEPTIONS.

Exactly! Listen up Vin-meister!

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Flounder, I agree that these guys are older, prone to injury and the FO needs to inject some youth on this roster. BUT: you dont always want to have a high roster turnover. It can kill team chemistry. All those new players they could acquire with 20million under the cap would have to learn the system not to mention the coaches, and the DC area. It doesnt make for a smooth transition.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 11:56 AM |

OK so we just keep these guys until they die and then we get younger. Guys switch teams all the time and Football is not brain surgery players go new places every year and do great. Why is it that only when guys come here there is this big learning curve, what do we have the most sophisticated scheme in the league.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

OK so we just keep these guys until they die and then we get younger. Guys switch teams all the time and Football is not brain surgery players go new places every year and do great. Why is it that only when guys come here there is this big learning curve, what do we have the most sophisticated scheme in the league.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I agree some of them have to go, but not all. I would think MW53 should be gone, but who are you going to replace him with? FA and the draft are questionable as to who/what positions will be available. But yeah, I think the Skins will just have to depend on some young guys stepping up next year. But you dont want to be stuck with HB Blades as your starting SLB... ya know?

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I think the first thing the FO needs to do is approach these vets (springs/griffin/washington/jansen/JTaylor) and try to renegotiate contracts. Even if the cap numbers are pushed into the futre, at least they would be spreading out the cap hits. Once they know who is willing to sacrifice some $$$, then they can decide who to cut.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

CONTEST REMINDER: Will take entries until the end of the week. Then I'll post them for review and anyone who wants to add/make changes can do it. Will close it about this time next week. So far, looks like about 70 entries. If you could put CONTEST ENTRY above the entry, it'll be easier to spot when I check for them

THE CONTEST IS:
Make a statement that will be kind of true one year from now (related to the Skins, of course). The most outrageous statement that is in the ballpark, wins. Up to 5 statements per person.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Once they know who is willing to sacrifice some $$$, then they can decide who to cut.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:16 PM

Then count on Shawn Springs being on the cut list.

Posted by: TWISI | January 7, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I think the first thing the FO needs to do is approach these vets (springs/griffin/washington/jansen/JTaylor) and try to renegotiate contracts. Even if the cap numbers are pushed into the futre, at least they would be spreading out the cap hits. Once they know who is willing to sacrifice some $$$, then they can decide who to cut.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:16 PM |

Thats the problem why keep spreading them out when you can save money by getting rid of them. Who cares who you replace MW with he barley gets on the field anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Thats the problem why keep spreading them out when you can save money by getting rid of them. Who cares who you replace MW with he barley gets on the field anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

You spread out the cap hits, to keep from having 1 season with dead money from multiple cuts. You keep some vets at lower cap numbers, guys who can still contribute. Griff/MW53/Taylor may not be starters anymore, but I would take the chance on them to be able to contribute in a back up role if they are willing to renegotiate contracts. Dont get me wrong, they have to cut some ppl, but cut all? Its not prudent. Vinny/Zorn already said theyre not looking at a "roster overhaul". I think most Skins fans will care who replaces MW53 next year if HB Blades is getting run over, not sacking teh QB and getting beat by Whitten repeatedly. I do think they can/must find a replacement SLB in FA or the draft. My point is, you cant get rid of everyone.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

You spread out the cap hits, to keep from having 1 season with dead money from multiple cuts. You keep some vets at lower cap numbers, guys who can still contribute. Griff/MW53/Taylor may not be starters anymore, but I would take the chance on them to be able to contribute in a back up role if they are willing to renegotiate contracts. Dont get me wrong, they have to cut some ppl, but cut all? Its not prudent. Vinny/Zorn already said theyre not looking at a "roster overhaul". I think most Skins fans will care who replaces MW53 next year if HB Blades is getting run over, not sacking teh QB and getting beat by Whitten repeatedly. I do think they can/must find a replacement SLB in FA or the draft. My point is, you cant get rid of everyone.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 7, 2009 12:35 PM |

What part of if you cut the guys I listed you save 20mil against the cap did'nt you understand. There are no cap hits.

You added Jansen he would be a cap hit.

Cutting four guys is not a roster overhaul, Vinny already said he's looking at a 12-15 player turnover.

This team is not a SB caliber team as constructed, so get rid of the dead wait and get young so that in 2-3 years you can be ready to make a run at the SB.

If Pioli came in here and had full control you would see this team turn around in 1-2 years, he would know that this team needs to be rebuilt.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree with everyone against going after Haynesworth... we should never again pursue the best free agent available... as a rule we need to hew to a policy that triangulates youth/ability/cost to get this thing rebuilt.

Also agree with everyone calling for Chris Canty, and not just as a UVa dude... though if we can't get him, I'd settle for Brendan Canty from Fugazi, another dude with skills and local ties to DC...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | January 7, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Who cares who you replace MW with he barley gets on the field anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21

Marcus Washington didn't play against the Cowboys (2nd matchup), Giants (2nd matchup), Ravens, and Bengals. In all 4 of those games, we were pounded with the run.

Most people don't realize how much Washington means to this team. I agree that he is too injury prone, but we better have a legit replacement if he goes.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Vinny's Fridge is full of guys whose expiration dates has past ... or is about to pass. Trouble is, cutting some of these guys results in a major cap hit, limiting replacement options. And Vinny doesn't have refills on the roster, especially on the OL.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 7, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Pfunk, How can you tell the drunken jib-jab from the regular kind?

Posted by: Predator48 | January 7, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Some of the hallmarks of "drunken" jib-jab include the following:

-calls for Zorn to be fired after 1 season

-calls for Todd Collins to start

-coming to the defense of JLa

-any post from "poolman" or "daggarforracialjustice"

-suggestions that we sign TJ Houshmandzadeh

Posted by: p1funk | January 7, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

If I had to guess, Griff will be back but Taylor, MW and Springs will be gone.

Hall will get signed and Rogers will get traded for a 3rd rounder (if it wasn't for Vinny I'd say a 2nd).

That would give us one 1st and two 3rds, 4th, 5th, 7th (I think that's right). Take DT/OT/DE/MLB/SLB/CB in some order w those picks.

Pick up depth on both lines in FA and adjust the draft strategy accordingly.

Get a K and a P who can kick with some sort of consistency.

Make Soup play for his next contract.

Hope Kelly/Davis/Thomas learn the friggin' playbook.

As always, my $.02 = $0.00

[cc]

Posted by: countystyle | January 7, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

psp,

He missed 6 games this year and 4 last year, so he would probably miss 8-10 games next year.

So who cares who replaces him, that guy who ever he is will be replacing him anyway for most of the games.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and MWashington missed the Seattle game.

Maurice Morris ended up with 103 yards on 14 carries. And Julius Jones added 21 yards on 2 carries.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

county,

It's a 6th but you were close, and nobody except for Vinny would give a 3rd pick for a corner who can not catch and gets beat on double moves.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

county- I agree. I also think Jansen is gone. Though I think we need OLB before MLB.

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The realities:
1) The Redskins have not been to the Super Bowl in 17 years and have reached a state of deterioration that is not correctable in less than 3 years.
2) The Post is scared to criticize Redskins Management for fear they will lose their inside interview track. Therefore, they will have no impact on correcting this situation.
3) Because of incompetence we need to replace a GM, Head Coach, and QB. Because of age we must replace 5 o-linemen, 2 d-lineman, 2 linebackers, and a CB. That magnitude of correction is impossible to accomplish, even with a qualified GM and head coach, in a short period.
The fix needs to start now.

Posted by: edeshields | January 7, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Of course, if we eliminate the repeat, the meaningless and the flaming, the count would be back under 100k.

Posted by: chasla | January 7, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"nobody except for Vinny would give a 3rd pick for a corner who can not catch and gets beat on double moves.

Posted by: Flounder21"

You have the opposite idea.

Nobody except Vinny would fathom offering Rogers in a trade asking for a 3rd round pick. Draft a guy with the #9 overall pick, develop him on your roster steadily, watch him grow into a top 15 corner in the league, then trade him for a 3rd round pick. Brilliant strategy.

We're a friggin developmental squad. Let us take the youngsters, turn them into real ballers, then give them away for 10 cents on the dollar. (Cue the references to AP, RC, etc.)

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"I see the weekly trip to the computer lab was earlier this morning for TheTruth.

Thats it, no more tit-for-tat from me today.

Say what you will, but I have no doubt that the rift from yesterday between myself and 'tard boy heavily contributed to the 300K mark.

It's raining, and the secret service has highjacked our building... I think its going to be one of THOSE days.

Posted by: RedDMV "

Either I'm on all the time or I'm not Red, it can't be both.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

edeshields- "2) The Post is scared to criticize Redskins Management..."

You're kidding, right?

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

CONTEST ENTRY
Dan Snyder will be killed in a Redskins-One plane crash while trying to recruit Albert Haynesworth at the 12:01 mark of the free agent signing period. His wife will take over as owner/ceo and begin a campaign to turn the franchise into a laughing stock so that the fans will turn against the team, stop buying tickets, therefore enabling the "out" clause which will let her move the team to Los Angeles (Vinny will get to keep his job, wink-wink). She will sell the plane, and the team will take buses to away games. Rod Marinelli will be hired as the new coach. The roster will be slashed, and a bunch of bums will come in that will surely make them the worst team in the league. Surprisingly at the half way point of the season, they will hold a 3-5 record. They will put a picture of the new lady-owner in the locker room, and rip off a piece of the clothing after each win. The division title and "play-in" will come down to the final regular season game against the hated cowboys. On the final play of the game, they will run the fumble-rooski, and new starting right guard Willie Mays-Hayes will slide face first into the endzone for the winning TD. I'm not really clear on what will happen in the playoffs, though as I never saw Major league 2......

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 7, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree with psps more. we want to win we need to keep young talent and stop trading it away.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

psp,

I don't think they should trade Rogers, I just said if they did they are not going to get a 3rd for him.

I say do nothing with Rogers now there is no reason to he is still under contract for next year. Let him play for a new contract, if he warrants it then give it to him if not let him walk in FA's

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

i just looked at the forecast...no end in sight for this miserable weather. have we always had winters like these? i feel like i'm living in the northwest. the best day is this friday, sunny and the high of 40.

Posted by: dealer1 | January 7, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Just nit-picking here:

"Sproles didn't do much during the regular season with LT out, he's way too small, and I thought the Dolts' defense had a terrible game. Especially Bethea, getting run over by a 5'6" guy for a TD?"

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 7, 2009 12:00 PM

Sproles only carried the ball 61 times during the season. On those 61 carries he averaged 5.4 a clip, he had 29 catches for 342 yards and FIVE receiving TDs (He would've been 2nd on the 'skins in TD receptions).
I'm not sure what you mean by "Sproles didn't do much during the regular season with LT out...", LT still carried the ball 292 times and played in every game.

Also, please stop already with "he's too small" stuff - Barry Sanders, YOUR Santana Moss, and a host of others are 5-8ish or smaller and still find ways to get the job done - like Darren Sproles.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze1, I don't get it ... does the plane survive the crash or does she sell the wreckage? Also, a little harsh, don't you think?

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand how so many of you want to trade Rogers who played very well this year and keep Springs. The last two years Springs has not been able to stay on the field and he will be a year older next year.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | January 7, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

psp,

Oh and it still has not been reported by any reputable source that the Skins have said anything about trading Rogers.

JLC specualted that they might do that, but he has no access to Vinny who would make the decision.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

dealer, are you in the, ahem, "DMV"?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

psp, you bring up some valid stats regarding MW, but he's just so dang unreliable. Same with Springs, they're a much better team when he's out there. The dilemna is just that, do you keep these 2 guys around, knowing that they've become somewhat injury prone and are older. Either way its a gamble, cut them, or keep them.

again, regarding rogers, until, oh I don't know, lets say, ESPN, or someone from the NFL Network says that Rogers is on the market, much ado about nothing.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

dealer, are you in the, ahem, "DMV"?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:26 PM |

Red,

I am and the weather does suck, could you imagine if this had been snow the entire area would have been shot down for a month.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the last monster DL to come out of Tennessee? How's The Freak doing up in Philly?

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 7, 2009 12:00 PM

Actually, The Freak is back in Tennessee ... starting on the side opposite Vanden Bosch and Haynesworth ... on the defense that is #2 in points allowed and #6 in rushing yards allowed.

Still, the Titans will lose to the Ravens this weekend (Vanden Bosch and Haynesworth both coming off fresh injuries ... and Mawae (center) is out).

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

dlhaze1, I don't get it ... does the plane survive the crash or does she sell the wreckage? Also, a little harsh, don't you think?

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 1:25 PM
Plane done; wreckage sold.....
Sorry if it came off as harsh; just following the Major League script with some tweaks....it's a great movie if you haven't seen it.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | January 7, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

is there no way we can resign Springs and trade him?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Not saying I think Rogers SHOULD be traded, just expecting that to happen. Does anyone know if Alabama's Terrence Cody has changed his mind and declared early? I heard a rumor he was reconsidering. Now THAT'd be sweet.

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

again, regarding rogers, until, oh I don't know, lets say, ESPN, or someone from the NFL Network says that Rogers is on the market, much ado about nothing.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I understand why peeps think that but how often do ESPN talk about the skins? Knowing how they hate DC I don't think you will hear anything till its too late.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

per the 1:14 PM post on this thread...

speaking of can't keep names out of mouths...

i will not address this peon anymore. only by time posted, you're just another number, gump.

--------------------------

RE: Marcus Washington

I don't think that you can miss something that you never have. Washington hasn't played on a consistent basis since 2005 - last time he played in all 16 games. Hell, there are times when he was healthy, I didn't know he was playing. He was that much of non-factor.

I say you cut Springs and Washington for sure. Both are over the hill, long in the tooth, or what have you, and both can't stay on the field for a complete season anymore (Although Springs did play in all 16 games in 2007).

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Al, I guess my point was that it was speculated that perhaps the redskins would trade Rogers, all I'm saying is lets let this grow into something beyond the speculative stages, before we burn VC at the stake for this trade.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | January 7, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

is there no way we can resign Springs and trade him?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | January 7, 2009 1:32 PM |

I don't think anyone would trade for him, he is not reliable anymore.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Terrence Cody*, Alabama
Height: 6-5. Weight: 365.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Red, still, that sounds like tit.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

BTW - I'm not saying I'd personally trade Rogers, I just think they will. My fault for mixing in what I think will happen w what I'd like to see happen.

Rogers was bumped down to CB3 and didn't take it very well at all (to my knowledge we never really got an explanation for the demotion but makes me think he may be on the way out).

However, if you get rid of Springs then there's only Smoot and Tryon along w Hall (assuming we sign him). Keep Rogers and he goes back to CB2.

Making Rogers play out his rookie contract and signing Hall makes sense right now and gives us two young CBs and takes some pressure off of CR. And maybe Hall can teach him to catch too. If he plays well in '09 then you need to decide if he's worth a big contract. If not, draft another CB.

A D-backfield with Hall, Rogers, Landry and Horton sure doesn't sound bad though.

Posted by: countystyle | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

yeah...i'm in dc(roosevelt bridge)/nova. i like snow (double fare et all) i just hate this constant stupid rain and cloudy skies. it's downright depressing. either give me a big, huge snow storm and clear blue skies the next day or give me the normal east coast winter weather gosh darn it!

and speaking of subliminal global warming talk...just saw wall-e...why did people not like that movie? i thought it was cute.

Posted by: dealer1 | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Greg,
I realize that but remember how it was just rabid idiot blogblather that stopped Danny from getting Fassiel, though personally I did not think that would have been the worst move ever.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

floud, I wish it would snow. when was the last time this area seen a legit snow fall?

I think it was the winter of '98/'99.

The last blizzard was in '96, best week and a half of my life - No school and played football all day with friends from around the way.

Now it seems in the D.C. area the summers are hotter than hell, and we get these weak and mild winters.

But January isn't over yet...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Alex,

ESPN can go suck something, but until I here this from say a Glazer or Shefter, I don't give it any play.

JLC speculating is not enough for me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Finally, he would be an awesome compliment to Cornelius Griffin (who is on his way out) and to Jeria Perry (my suggested 1st round pick).

Posted by: tmcmullins | January 7, 2009 11:47 AM

Peria Jerry or "Jerry, Peria." Its the switched first and last names that make him such a compelling draft choice.

Posted by: dcsween | January 7, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

_D7_ from what I can recall of him against Utah Cody is a two down player. He was out on most passing plays. He was difficult to move when he was in, but IMO the skins would be better served with a more athletic DT.

Posted by: TWISI | January 7, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Greg,
I realize that but remember how it was just rabid idiot blogblather that stopped Danny from getting Fassiel, though personally I did not think that would have been the worst move ever.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:42 PM |

Alex,

Trust me this blog had nothing to do with Snyder not getting Fassel, do you really think Snyder gives a sh!t about what we think. If he did he would have fired Vinny a long time ago.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 7, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

At least we agree on ESPN sucking something.

As I said I realize its all hearsay for now, at most a rumor started by Rogers I think, and nothing more has been reported.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

dealer-

just saw wall-e the other day myself. I, too, thought it was a cute flick. I think I remember hearing some decent critical acclaim, on NPR or something. I thought it was well done.

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: CindyBoren | January 7, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Beep beep,
Flounder I don't mean just this blog. The reacton was more than the hampsters.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 7, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

yeah the constant rain sucks... i hear ya, i'd rather it be either cold with the sun shining or a blizzard.

F flurries and f freezing rain.

isn't this area below sea level? i know D.C. was all swamp back in the day - hence the mosquitoes and crazy humidity around here.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 7, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Greg, I agree with your comments regarding MWash. And that's the real dilemma for this team. The truly washed up veterans that are being paid way too much for their ability, like Jansen and Randle El, cannot be cut because of their cap hits. But the other semi-useful vets that can still bring it when they're healthy, like Griff, Springs, and Washington, can all provide serious immediate cap relief. Does the team bite the bullet for one more year, then release them all after next season with Jansen and ARE (it's not like we're adding a plethora of draft picks to the roster this year)? Or do we just say F it and cut them now, with the hopes of bringing in a few FAs?

That's my thought. If we want some serious free agents like a Jordan Gross or Julius Peppers, then cut those guys to provide the space. If not, and all we're getting are minimal-average FAs, plus the 4 draft picks, then might as well keep them on the roster for another year.

Posted by: psps23 | January 7, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

TWISI- I didn't actually see the Utah/Bama game, but I heard Utah flawlessly executed a brilliant gameplan. Lots of no-huddle early to mess with defensive substitutions. I definitely think we need a somewhat athletic DT, as opposed to a huge clobbering glob that can barely move, but I thought this kid had lost about 30 lbs and could move. Maybe not.

Posted by: _D7_ | January 7, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

hence the mosquitoes and crazy humidity around here.

Posted by: RedDMV ++++

you don't know humidity until you've been to SC in the summer.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | January 7, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, verb tense. The Freak had two good years in Philly -- the first two -- and then dropped off considerably.

Kearse had 3 great years with the Titans, then an injured year, followed by a decent year entering FA. First two years adequate, 2007 was awful for 14 games (12 tackles 3.5 sacks). I guess the injury in 02 really hurt him.

Exactly my point re: Sproles. Why not cite 2007, when he had a 10.9 yards/carry average? It was only about half as many carries as in 2008, 31. He's a great change of pace, and against two teams with HORRENDOUS run defenses (Denver #27, Colts, #24) he did well, mainly because he was getting to the second level without being touched. Let's see how he does against the #2 rush defense this weekend before throwing some big FA $$ at a little guy.

Truth, about resigning Springs, wouldn't his signing bonus accelerate when he get's traded? Sounds like a cap nightmare.

Hey, all you guys who want a 3 year plan, would you gamble that there will not be a cap in 3 years?

***draft Mays****

Posted by: dpc2003 | January 7, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

We should fire everyone and give CP a 100 Million Dollar contract. Then we should fill the roster by raiding other team's practice squads, but only after we trade away all of our draft picks for nudie pics of Shannon Elizabeth.

Seems like as good a plan as some of the ideas you all are throwing about.

Posted by: ecale25 | January 7, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

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