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A bit of clarity on Albert Haynesworth's situation with Redskins

It appears I need to clarify something I recently reported about Albert Haynesworth.

A few Insider readers emailed me this week because they were confused about what appeared to be my conflicting reports regarding the Pro Bowl defensive tackle, who is at odds with the Redskins over their determination to play him at nose tackle in the new 3-4 scheme. In reporting last week that Washington has been actively trying to trade Haynesworth, who would prefer to remain at defensive tackle in a 4-3 defense, I posted via Twitter that Haynesworth planned to attend this weekend's voluntary three-day minicamp at Redskins Park. I also included the information in an earlier edition of our first report for the newspaper about the team's efforts to trade Haynesworth, who has received $32 million in the first 14 months of his record $100-million contract.

Well, I revised our story later in the evening after receiving a phone call from one source and a text from another explaining that Haynesworth probably would only attend the mandatory camp in June. Unless, of course, he's traded before then.

I should have updated the new information on Twitter, but I simply forgot, which is the reason for the apparently conflicting reports from us. In subsequent Insider and newspaper reports, I made it clear, from what people with knowledge of the situation have told us, Haynesworth only plans to attend mandatory offseason activities at the complex, and there are only three mandatory days in June.

In an Internet interview with Haynesworth that appeared Monday, there is no mention of the recent trade reports involving Haynesworth. In fact, in quotes attributed to the two-time all-pro, Haynesworth could not have been more complimentary toward the new regime and the Redskins' plans for him. On Monday, I texted one of our sources to see if anything had changed regarding Haynesworth. His response: "No."

It's important to remember that Haynesworth previously broke his silence in a radio interview in which he said all the right things while knowing the Redskins were shopping him and he wanted to play elsewhere. It would make no sense for Haynesworth to say anything negative about the team or his standing with the coaching staff and organization while Washington is trying to trade him. Doing so would simply further complicate an already difficult process.

The minicamp doesn't begin until Friday, so perhaps Haynesworth will change his mind about participating, embrace Coach Mike Shanahan's decision to play him at a position he does not want to play and everyone in Ashburn will live happily ever after. I just wouldn't count on it.

Baldinger's not so big on McNabb

Over at the D.C. SportsBog, Dan Steinberg has Brian Baldinger's latest comments on Donovan McNabb and the Redskins. Short version: He ain't the answer and the team still has a lot of deficiencies.

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By Jason Reid  |  April 13, 2010; 10:20 AM ET
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So just to clarify: Haynesworth won't show up this weekend unless he does.

Got it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 13, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

".....so perhaps Haynesworth will change his mind about participating, embrace Coach Mike Shanahan's decision to play him at a position he does not want to play and everyone in Ashburn will live happily ever after."

We have been vindicated.

We've sent in a snow flurry of posts reminding folks that because of both money and depth issues, it's actually better to keep Haynesworth than exposing your defensive line.

So sometimes roster and depth issues are resolved in April.

Especially when common damn sense is exercised.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

FIRST to say AH is as good as gone. Book it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have to agree with Brian Baldinger.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

In other words you have no idea of what your talking about what else is new.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Here is the thing...NO ONE KNOWS...what is going to happen...including AH and Skins/MS/BA....

There are conditions, caveats, situations that are all moving pieces and circumstances can change on a variety of whims.

Players and team stay tight lipped, and understandably so...millions are on the line, so journalists/pundits/bloggas/arm chair QBs educated guess/collect opinions/ask around/postulate and yes...GASP...speculate....its called THE OFF SEASON IN PRO SPORTS...

Will I be shocked if he is traded/holds out/shows up at every scheduled event/has beast year/gives Shanny HJ...NO, its all on the table.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 13, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have to agree with Brian Baldinger.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:38 AM |

Well of course you do because you are a wanna be madden GM who thinks he could run a real NFL team.

Baldinger is a former NFL linemen turned annoucer he is no expert.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

McNabb throwing to Santonio Holmes would have been nice. Would have only cost a 5th round pick. Missed that one Shanny.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 13, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

flonder21

"In other words you have no idea of what your talking about what else is new."

He spent all last week pimping the AH trade, but didn't get that you don't hand a guy 21 mil, then send him packing.

And you don't especially do it if you don't have quality guys to replace him already on the roster.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

If by missed on that one you mean "missed on the chance to give up a pick for player already suspended and one toke away from year suspension...." then yeah missed...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 13, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The Jets are usually bigger offseason movers than us and nobody gives them any flack...

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 13, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

No way we let the Jets steal our offseason Superbowl Title, Ten years running. Get T.O. on the phone and lets lock this down...

Posted by: Stu27 | April 13, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Baldinger is a former NFL linemen turned annoucer he is no expert.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:43 AM

Don't just attack the messanger... what did he say that was untrue?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Jets have actually been operating this way the past three seasons.....should be a fun Hard Knocks season....

And believe me the Jets get grief up here in NYC and if they fall on their face...wow they will tak e siht storm in NYC press and national..

That said when you are this aggressive coming of Champ Game loss...well it buys you some breathing room.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 13, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

gives Shanny HJ

gotta tell ya CL, I'm gonna be shocked if that happens...just cuz, well...nevermind...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 13, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Why Campbell gotta be Bubba though?

Why not Lt. Dan or the dude banging his moms making 'O' sounds?

Or the Elvis spoof?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

The beating that he has taken... I would say he is more in line with Jeeeeeeeeeni!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 13, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 13, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Baldinger is a former NFL linemen turned annoucer he is no expert.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:43 AM

Don't just attack the messanger... what did he say that was untrue?


Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:48 AM |

Mcnabb is one of the best QB's in the league, the Eagles will not make the playoffs without him.

The rest of his crap was all speculation, do yourself a favor and wait for a game or two to be played before you cry.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I LOVE it when rude, dumb people are made to look even stupider.

THIS one's for you Scampbell1975

TODAY You wrote:

"As usual, (you're) out of touch and uneducated. ... Hayney will indeed be at the minicamp this weekend. An interview was printed late last week with Hayney and he had nothing but positive things to say about the team and coaches…Catch up man or be left behind..."

Posted by: scampbell1975

And today JASON REID wrote:

“ ... I made it clear, from what people with knowledge of the situation have told us, Haynesworth only plans to attend mandatory offseason activities at the complex, and there are only three mandatory days in June.” --JASON REID

I'd say you were "out of touch and uneducated," but that's too obvious.

I WILL say you've been hoisted by your own petard.

And in the words of one Blog dummy...

Catch up or be left behind

Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

This is what good investigative [snicker] journalism gets you: a confirmation that the rumor printed might not necessarily be the right rumor but it's the rumor we're sticking to.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 13, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Baldinger is a former NFL linemen turned annoucer he is no expert.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:43 AM

Good point. You can't expect a former pro football player and paid announcer to have the insight of Bloggers like us.

Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

And today JASON REID wrote:

“ ... I made it clear, from what people with knowledge of the situation have told us, Haynesworth only plans to attend mandatory offseason activities at the complex, and there are only three mandatory days in June.” --JASON REID

I'd say you were "out of touch and uneducated," but that's too obvious.

I WILL say you've been hoisted by your own petard.

And in the words of one Blog dummy...

Catch up or be left behind


Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM |

Scamp doesn't need me to defend him but if you think J Reid has any idea whats going on a Redskins park, you have already been left behind.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Good point. You can't expect a former pro football player and paid announcer to have the insight of Bloggers like us.

Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 10:58 AM |

Insight is one but an expert on QB's he's not.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Scamp doesn't need me to defend him but if you think J Reid has any idea whats going on a Redskins park, you have already been left behind.

Posted by: Flounder21


Oh no no no no no. I get ALL my Redskin info from Redskin.com, just like you do.

And stay out of this, Flounder, this is a battle of wits, so unless you like bringing a Swiss Army Knife to a machine gun fight, mind your own business.

Feel free to zing me back, but I won't see it. Some of us have a life and can't spend 24/7 solving redskin issues.

Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"Baldinger is a former NFL linemen turned annoucer he is no expert."


When's he's breaking down game tape, I listen.

When he's not, I don't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have to agree with Brian Baldinger.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

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On what basis?

First of all-- if you read the comments it is crystal clear that it's personal.

He showed no class because he took it too far. Plus... he's in idiot and here is why

Mcnabb did not play in an offense that was conducive to playoff success in the NFL.

The eagles will never win a championship on the basis that they are a sissy team that throws on 3rd and 1.

John Elway did not and could not win until he had a real running game with Terrel Davis.

Young didn't win until he had a running game with Ricky Waters

Bottom line: who is a better football guy?

Shanny
Baldy
Reid

If you asked reid about BALANCE he would say... I like Nike!

Baldy is an idiot

I trust Shanny

Posted by: imthedude | April 13, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I WILL say you've been hoisted by your own petard.

And in the words of one Blog dummy...

Catch up or be left behind
Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

dude, you're a tool. He just proved my point which if you have been paying attention over the last few days you would see. That point is that J. Reid has been flinging poo against a wall to see what sticks. Nothing he has said has been backed up by anyone other than his fellow poo flinger Florio. As early as yesterday he contradicted himself. So as I said before, catch up or be left behind. And who are you to call anyone rude. You've been nothing but a whiny a$$, rude, condescending little b!tch since the day you started puking all over this blog. You're problem is you wanna dish it out but get sand on your vag when forced to eat it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 13, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Mcnabb is one of the best QB's in the league, the Eagles will not make the playoffs without him.

The rest of his crap was all speculation...

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM

Looks like you're doin' a little speculatin' too!

We'll have actual results at the end of the season, and I definitely look forward to seeing whose speculation is more accurate.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I don't know who Baldinger is but I keep coming back to the fact that Reid rarely had a balanced offense. It was always a pass first deal. Why would he do that if McNabb is so flawed?

Posted by: skinswest | April 13, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Oh no no no no no. I get ALL my Redskin info from Redskin.com, just like you do.

And stay out of this, Flounder, this is a battle of wits, so unless you like bringing a Swiss Army Knife to a machine gun fight, mind your own business.

Feel free to zing me back, but I won't see it. Some of us have a life and can't spend 24/7 solving redskin issues.

Posted by: TheCork | April 13, 2010 11:04 AM |

Said by the guy who spends more time on here then most.

Yes Cork your so smart we should all look up to you, your so smart that you root for a team you obviously don't like.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

do yourself a favor and wait for a game or two to be played before you cry.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse
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Do yourself a favor and wait for a game or two to be played before you declare the Eagles dead.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The last part of Baldinger's comments would appear to hint at his motivation. He probably said something negative and McNabb shut him out. Sour grapes

Posted by: skinswest | April 13, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I gotta believe that Alan4 and Baldinger are still upset Limbaugh got the boot. That's the only explanation for their ridiculous opinions regarding McNabb. How does a guy, whose team passed the ball 60% of the time, QB his team to several division titles, several conference championships, and a Super Bowl without being able to read a defense?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Baldinger = what happens when the center sends a shotgun snap right into the QB who isn't expecting it b/c he's stepping to the line of scrimmage to take an undercenter snap ... after it happens, there is usually some swearing (esp. if the QB isn't wearing a cup)

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

imthedude, you make some good points. Baldy's opinion of McNabb is where I diverge with him somewhat, because he's over the top with that particular criticism.

However, I think your criticism of Andy Reid is a bit over the top, too. McNabb and Reid's legacies are intertwined.


Seing McNabb in a Skins uniform will be like seeing a less-accomplished Michael Jordan in a Wizards uniform. And I expect the results will be more underwhelming.

However, if you read Baldy's entire commments, everything else he says about the rest of the team is pretty spot on.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Do yourself a favor and wait for a game or two to be played before you declare the Eagles dead.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 11:13 AM |

The Eagles weakend themselves for this year. They maybe better off in the longrun or they may not.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

jcam to the bills, steelers, or carolina on draft day... fat albert is out of dc on draft day... and jreid sucks...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 13, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have to agree with Brian Baldinger.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 10:38 AM


You must be an idiot Eagles fan then.

The Eagles built that entire offense around McNabb, never gave him an elite WR (save for the T.O. disaster), and never ran a balanced offense that featured a strong rushing attack. If you're "covering for your quarterback" you don't do that. It baffles me that half that fanbase couldn't get McNabb outta town fast enough when it was so obviously that FO and coaching staff that failed them long before McNabb ever could.

DM certainly bears some of the blame for the Eagles coming up short, but they act like they had a good thing going when DM came and screwed it up. For a team that's never won anything, they sure do have an amazingly misplaced sense of entitlement.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I dont' know that McNabb will be a saviour but he's definitely an upgrade over Campbell.

McNabb also has the benefit of a better coach than Campbell had and a legit offense.

This will definitely be a better team with McNabb on it, I just don't know how much better.

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 13, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't Baldinger have a show on Philly radio? Who am I thinking about? Some gas bag (and his moron callers) that I listen to on the drive back and forth from NYC.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

if you have a chance to lighten the mood around here, there is a video on deadspin/youtube of an interview recently with Chan Ho Park.

The interviewer asks Park why he hasn't been pitching well lately, his response is flat out, diarreah...its pretty funny....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 13, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

... They maybe better off in the longrun or they may not.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:17 AM

This prediction is definitely going to come true. I kind of like going out on a limb like this one.

McNabb Schmicknabb ... its not a done deal until the Jason Campbell matter is resolved FAVORABLY for the Skins. The other shoe has yet to drop. If this turns about being messed up b/c they made the move for McNabb impulsively, I'm prepared to start labelling Shanahallen the "New Vinny Team".

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

However, if you read Baldy's entire commments, everything else he says about the rest of the team is pretty spot on.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:17 AM


Show me what part of his comments are "spot on". Calling McNabb "the most overrated quarterback in NFL history" is lunacy at its absolute worst (especially when the guy plays in the same division as Tony Romo), and I would say that even if he were still an Eagle.

I just can't comprehend how a guy who damn near carried that entire team on his back for so many years can be viewed as the problem when the team failed to get him the help he needed to get over the hump. I fail to see how that is HIS fault...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

gotta believe that Alan4 and Baldinger are still upset Limbaugh got the boot.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:15 AM

LOL, that's just plain old funny. I've been called a JC17 apologist here many times on RI, and now you dare to drag Limbaugh into it just because I think the Skins pickup of McNabb is grossly overrated? Please.


I already said Baldy's comments about McNabb were over the top. The rest of his comments about the team are spot on.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

McNabb Schmicknabb ... its not a done deal until the Jason Campbell matter is resolved FAVORABLY for the Skins. The other shoe has yet to drop. If this turns about being messed up b/c they made the move for McNabb impulsively, I'm prepared to start labelling Shanahallen the "New Vinny Team".


Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:25 AM |

Yes of course you will label them that, and the funny thing is your probably hoping it will happen. If the team actuall did well what would you come on here and b-tch about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

My definition of 'success' for this upcoming draft would be Shanahallen pulling off a trade down out of the #4 spot. Enhancements to success would be picking up another first day pick (rounds one or two) for Haynesworth, Campbell, and/or a ham sandwich (maybe even Landry if necessary).

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Show me what part of his comments are "spot on".

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:26 AM

OK:

"I don't think they're a playoff team. I mean, Jason Campbell, I don't care, you take any great quarterback -- Peyton, whoever you want to take -- there's no quarterback who would have played well on that team last year. That offensive line was awful.

"He's going to be handing off to...I've never seen three old running backs on a team before in this league. I mean, they're gonna hand it off to Clinton Portis, who hasn't had a good year in two years, Larry Johnson, who hasn't had a good year in two years on three different teams, or to Willie Parker, who hasn't played well since he got hurt against the Eagles two years ago. I mean, that's the backfield.

"Now, the offensive line was old to begin with, and then they lost Randy Thomas and they lost Samuels, and so they were broken there. The safeties are the worst tackling safeties in the league. I mean, there's a lot of things they have to fix there in Washington. The receivers that he's going to be throwing to are very young and very immature, and you can just ask Jason Campbell about that. So I think Mike Shanahan and Donovan have an awful lot to do, and I think just adding Donovan to the mix doesn't make that team that much better than what they were this year."

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I would rather them trade LL than AH. I can't help but feel that this team will revert back to being putrid at sacking the QB w/o AH.

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Baldinger is an Eagle apologist so it is no shock he critcizes McNabb and sides with Philly. He was on Angelo Cataldi's show, he is one of the biggest jerkoff talking heads in sports radio. Skins will be better with McNabb. Eagles will continue to do ok without him. Kolb may take some lumps this year but he is a promising player.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 13, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

From Baldinger's remarks:

"You don't measure it by the supporting cast, you don't measure it by how good the defense is, you just measure it by what the guy does in big games. And in my viewpoint, he came up woefully short in a lot of big games....I know everybody wants to put the record up there, and how many wins and championship games he played in, and you can't take those things away from the guy. Those are all there. But I think you have to evaluate quarterbacks, and franchise quarterbacks, in a totally separate category. Whether it's fair or not fair, that's how I do it."


So based on that, Baldy doesn't think that Dan Marino is a franchise QB. Or Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, or Sonny Jurgenson.

Idiot...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

... If the team actuall did well what would you come on here and b-tch about.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 11:29 AM

I'm sure I would be able find something ... probably how my wife makes me do all the work ... my kids don't appreciate me ... other personal failings ... things of that nature.

[Don't get me wrong, other than signing LJ to three years (whatever that means), from what I see, its so far so good ... its just that the McNabb deal is still a work in progress.]

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, TheCorksucker was left behind long ago. He picks little bits and pieces to read and misses the whole picture. After that he's arguing from a disadvantage. We know the point from the beginning wad that JReid is grasping at straws. He may end up being right nut that would be luck. He's already argued both aides of the table.

What's funniest about Corky though is how in one sentence he calls me a blog dummy and shortly thereafter calls this a battle of wits. Sounds like a JReid post. Arguing both sides of the table.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 13, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I've been a skins fan for over 45 years!

Rebuild and draft picks have NEVER been part of the DNA of the skins and NEVER will be.

Either accept it or pick another team

Weather it's

George Allen
Jack Pardee
Joe Gibbs
Shanny
Snyder

The future will always be NOW

Within that span we have been to 5 SB and won 3


The Mcnabb trade should come to no surprise. Did anyone really think that Shanny/Allen/Snyder were going to tear it down and do what the eagles are doing

It's simply not in their DNA

Within the next 2 years-- we will make a run at a championship

Will we win?

Who knows-- but the beat goes on


Posted by: imthedude | April 13, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Alan4, I was referencing the remarks about McNabb. If he doesn't think the Redskins will turn things around simply because of the McNabb trade, I can get with that. But to say that McNabb is "the most overrated QB in NFL history" undermines anything else he says, IMO. There's no realistic justification for that assertion, other than he's a huge homer and buys into the misplaced venom that fanbase has had for the best player they've had in Philly since Reggie White left town.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Show me what part of his comments are "spot on".

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:26 AM

OK:

"I don't think they're a playoff team. ... doesn't make that team that much better than what they were this year."

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:32 AM

One bonus point for Alan4

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"This will definitely be a better team with McNabb on it, I just don't know how much better."


If we strike gold with the left tackle situation, we'll be so much better.

Donovon McNabb has never played with backs who can lead a pounding running attack.

Portis and Parker is a nice double threat backfield.

But homever our running back committee is can carry the ball enough to take the weight of an offense off his shoulders.

McNabb can throw when he has to as as opposed to throwing 60 times a game because that's all the coach wants to do.

Reid made McNabb the center of an offense, when, in fact, he might be better off being a leader and facilitator for others.

A lot of guys on our offense not named Portis will have career years this Fall no matter what Baldy says.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Ben Roethlisberger should be suspended...

for that haircut and outfit.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Happiness would also be Shanny playing AH at DT. He's got the skills. There is no upgrade. At least for a year or two, "let Albert be Albert." Too many other holes to fill.

Posted by: WorstSeat | April 13, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

FWIW, La Canfora was on Kornheiser yesterday praising the Skins' moves thus far. He said that they have improved the team by 4-5 wins already.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Ben Roethlisberger should be suspended...

for that haircut and outfit.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

LOL

At least they got him to take the backwards hat off.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 13, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Why do they even call this REDSKINS INSIDER when the WaPo gets trumped on every Skins story by every other media outlet???

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 13, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Ben Roethlisberger should be suspended...

for that haircut and outfit.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:39 AM


LOL...I was half expecting him to open his comments with "for as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJTCHqR9cVg

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

FWIW, La Canfora was on Kornheiser yesterday praising the Skins' moves thus far. He said that they have improved the team by 4-5 wins already.

Posted by: learnedhand1
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Ahh, the medium that Zorny always pined for.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Why not let AH play at end? Haven't we already signed Maake Kemoatu (sp?) and Anthony Bryant to play NT?

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | April 13, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Trade LL only if they can get Berry or Earl Thomas (who looks like the Second Coming of Sean)..No way trade back, dcsween, if they can reach a little and take Okung..Okung moves like a stallion at the combine and Orakpo says he's the best tackle he's ever played against..'nuff said..

Posted by: frak | April 13, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

At least they got him to take the backwards hat off.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 13, 2010 11:45 AM

Taking off the hat shows why he wears it in the first place. Bradshaw had a nice quote about Big Ben ... something like "I don't like him, he doesn't like me." Apparently Bradshaw had told him Ben had to be careful with the situations he was putting himself in ... and after the motorcycle accident, the next time they met, Ben was embarrassed b/c of the obvious "told you so" moment. Something like that. Big Ben is a chump.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Ben Roethlisberger should be suspended...

for that haircut and outfit.

Posted by: learnedhand1
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Hey, c'mon, best 'do since Pete Rose!

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Frank Vincent's characters have suffered two of the most ignomious mobster deaths.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

That's big Ben's offseason party time hair cut gets the strippers going as it seems.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 13, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

ignominious

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Why not let AH play at end? Haven't we already signed Maake Kemoatu (sp?) and Anthony Bryant to play NT?

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | April 13, 2010 11:49 AM

And they have A Montgomery. Plus they could draft a NT on the third day of the draft. It's about who has the biggest member now.

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Ben Roethlisberger should be suspended...

for that haircut and outfit.

Posted by: learnedhand1


It's like he was trying to look like a rapist.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | April 13, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Why not let AH play at end? Haven't we already signed Maake Kemoatu (sp?) and Anthony Bryant to play NT?

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | April 13, 2010 11:49 AM

I figure that might be the Plan B if they can't get a value trade for him.

frak, I think Trent Williams might even be a better choice than Okung ... but either seems fine ... and one of them will be a available down a few spots after #4.

I'm thinking the Lions are going to take Okung rather than one of the DTs, just b/c it makes more sense. If one of the teams that comes a few spots after us needs to jump over anyone else maybe b/c they want Clausen or one of the DTs or Berry, that would be the trading down I'm talking about ... just a few/several spots.

Also, I think Haynesworth is worth the Titan's first round pick straight up.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It's like he was trying to look like a rapist.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17
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And he was probably using the top pick-up line in Texas:

Git in the truck.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Frank Vincent's characters have suffered two of the most ignomious mobster deaths.

Posted by: learnedhand1

Egyptian carvings found in Peru, and somebody gave the mummies a drug test and found cocaine in their bodies (indigenous to central and south america, not africa), signifying drug trade between Egypt and South America...I always said those mummies had a heck of a nightlife..

Posted by: frak | April 13, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Taking off the hat shows why he wears it in the first place. Bradshaw had a nice quote about Big Ben ... something like "I don't like him, he doesn't like me." Apparently Bradshaw had told him Ben had to be careful with the situations he was putting himself in ... and after the motorcycle accident, the next time they met, Ben was embarrassed b/c of the obvious "told you so" moment. Something like that. Big Ben is a chump.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 11:51 AM

He also added that he was going to break all of bradshaw's records. Gee, real class act.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 13, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

ignominious

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 11:54 AM

I liked the 4th Floor spelling ("ignomious") better. Also would have like irrignominious.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I hate to rain on you parades, but the biggest problem has not changed for several years now: offensive line woes. At first it was just no depth. Now it's no starters.

Only burgundy and gold glasses prevent people on this board from seeing that at this point, McNabb is being set up for failure... just like JC17 was.


Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

go google news for lions nfl draft

they think Lions d-line #1 priority like we think o-line Redskins #1 priority.

Would be surprised if Lions did not take Suh. Not shocked, but surprised.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 13, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

He also added that he was going to break all of bradshaw's records. Gee, real class act.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 13, 2010 11:59 AM


Have you seen TB's numbers? Shouldn't be too hard...

Comp% - 51%
TDs - 212
INTs - 210
Yards - 27,975

The only reason this guy is in the HoF is because he played on 4 Super Bowl teams. Just furthers the notion that you don't need an elite QB to win it all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

And stay out of this, Flounder, this is a battle of wits, so unless you like bringing a Swiss Army Knife to a machine gun fight, mind your own business.

Posted by: TheCork
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Dagmcnabbit, what happened to the big machine gun vs knife fight I was promised? Got my popcorn ready... Gun jam on you there Buckwheat? Looks like he didn't even need the Swiss Army knife, paper cuts would've done the job.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Would be surprised if Lions did not take Suh. Not shocked, but surprised."

...and if they take Okung, we take Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Alan, normally we parades don't like being rained on, but when the rain you're sending down is a truthy statement about the sorry state of our O line, we, uh, we enjoy being rained on. So make it rain, Alan. Or something.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Only burgundy and gold glasses prevent people on this board from seeing that at this point, McNabb is being set up for failure... just like JC17 was.


Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 12:05 PM |

And only dumbness would stop you from realizing that the F-cking season hasn't started yet.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 13, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"Would be surprised if Lions did not take Suh. Not shocked, but surprised."

...and if they take Okung, we take Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe
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But what if Suh is sitting there? Skins might take him (unless they prefer to use him to trade down) if they think he's the 2nd coming of Reggie W, as some do... then we're looking at signing the hotel on Monday morning.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I hate to rain on you parades, but the biggest problem has not changed for several years now: offensive line woes. At first it was just no depth. Now it's no starters.

Only burgundy and gold glasses prevent people on this board from seeing that at this point, McNabb is being set up for failure... just like JC17 was.


Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Because nothing has been done, we can safely assume nothing will be done to fix the o-line.


Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 13, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

While Washington Redskins Sack “Soup” Campbell
Campbell Soup Reinstates NFL Mothers

New Campaign Will Focus On Family Values; Mrs. McNabb Returning for Starring Role

Advertising Age, April 13, 2010

PART 1

NEW YORK -- Campbell Soup is bringing back the moms.

Three years after suspending its well-received series of advertisements for its "Chunky" soup that featured National Football League greats and their mothers calling them inside for dinner and serving them soup, the company is planning to launch a new campaign this fall that renews and updates the storylines for some of the league’s best known players and their mothers.

Over the past three seasons, the soup company had been trying to present their target consumers -- men in their 30s -- as independent people who don’t need their mothers to tell them what and when to eat.

For example, one recent commercial showed former San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson describing his job in blue-collar terms.

"Another grueling day on the job," the ad begins. "You're dying to get out of those work clothes. You're hungry. You take a can of Chunky soup. You think about your day. Was I productive? Did I do right by my boss?"

"LaDainian Tomlinson apparently doesn’t need his mom to tell him which products have protein and which products don't," said Douglas Brand, brand manager for Chunky soup. "He learned that for himself.”

Unfortunately, soon after filming the commercial, Tomlinson became a victim of the “Chunky Soup Curse,” the so-called phenomenon where several football players who starred in the new campaign suffered mysterious major injuries. After two more injury plagued seasons, Tomlinson was released by the Chargers this winter and is currently seeking an opportunity to play with the New York Jets.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 13, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The only reason this guy is in the HoF is because he played on 4 Super Bowl teams. Just furthers the notion that you don't need an elite QB to win it all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 12:08 PM


Say what you will about Big Ben's off the field conduct. But he is an elite QB. TB played during a different era. NFL has changed and is a QB driven league. You don't have one your chances are greatly lessened.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 13, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Frank Vincent's characters have suffered two of the most ignomious mobster deaths.

Posted by: learnedhand1


"Now go home and get your fu_king shine box!" - Billy Batts, Goodfellas


What's the other character? I remember him beating the hell out of Joe Pesci with aluminum bats at the end of Casino. But it was Pesci and his brother that ended up catching that 'L'.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

alan4

"Only burgundy and gold glasses prevent people on this board from seeing that at this point, McNabb is being set up for failure... just like JC17 was."

Repost this comment Monday, April 26th after everyone has absorbed the outcome of the NFL Draft.

I'm quick sure it'll be the seasoning for the crow you'll be dining on.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

While Washington Redskins Sack “Soup” Campbell
Campbell Soup Reinstates NFL Mothers

New Campaign Will Focus On Family Values; Mrs. McNabb Returning for Starring Role

Advertising Age, April 13, 2010

PART 2


Meanwhile, the NFL is also suffering from numerous other cases of bad judgment and poor press -– including Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's sexual assault investigation in Georgia, and Santonio Holmes’ trade to the New York Jets barely hours before the public became aware his latest substance abuse charges and league suspension.

“It all points to the need for us to focus on family values,” said National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell, “and we are pleased to partner with Campbell Soup in this effort to remind our players and fans of the importance of always acting in accordance with their mother’s best wishes.”

During its heyday, the original "Mama's Boys" campaign was highly popular -- spoofed on "Saturday Night Live," and referenced repeatedly on sports highlight shows.

The campaign, from Young & Rubicam, also distinguished Chunky in an advertising landscape with no shortage of brands using athletes to appeal to men.

Wilma McNabb, mother of new Washington Redskins Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb and one of the first NFL moms to appear in the original ads, said she is looking forward to reestablishing her place as a cultural icon. "We moms really don’t get a much credit as we deserve anyway," she said Tuesday.

Posted by: Vic1 | April 13, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

He got his head crushed as Phil Leotardo in the Sopranos.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 13, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The one from "Sopranos", methinks...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

While Washington Redskins Sack “Soup” Campbell
Campbell Soup Reinstates NFL Mothers

New Campaign Will Focus On Family Values; Mrs. McNabb Returning for Starring Role

Advertising Age, April 13, 2010

PART 3

In the earlier iterations of the ads, which began airing in 1997, NFL luminaries such as John Elway and Terrell Davis appeared with actresses playing their mothers. After Mr. McNabb starred in a Chunky ad his faux mother, his real mother announced in 2001 that she could play herself just fine, thanks. And so she did, beginning in 2002. Since then, only real mothers appeared in the ads.

Before the 2007 football season, Campbell signed its largest contingent of NFL stars and their moms to appear in the campaign. Those ads featured eight players playing a four-on-four pickup game in the rain and snow, and then returning home to mom for a bowl of soup. Another current Washington Redskin player featured in the earlier ads is newly acquired running back Larry Johnson, who appeared during his playing hey days with the Kansas City Chiefs. Campbell spent $42 million on ads for Chunky soup in 2006 and $49 million in 2007, according to TNS Media Intelligence.

Meanwhile, the Washington Redskins may be without the services of one of its Campbell “soupers” this season, because former starting quarterback Jason “Soup” Campbell is asking to be cut or traded from the team.

After posting a 4-12 season record during his 2009 football campaign, Campbell is reportedly annoyed that the Redskins have signed McNabb to quarterback the team.

Campbell says that while he was promised a “fair opportunity” to compete for “his” starting position, the Redskins now want him to compete against a "real professional quarterback" who has consistently proven his ability to lead a team, make clutch throws when the game is on the line, and win football games. He concluded, “Now what’s so fair about that?”

Posted by: Vic1 | April 13, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

F Brian Baldinger... enjoy those Bucs vs Lions games they give bottom feeders like you!

We haven't had a sniff of the Conference Championship in almost 20 years (1991) ... In order to win the SB, you have to get to the game... Donovan McNabb is a little of an underachiever once he reached the big games but maybe this turn of events in his career & maturity will help him take the Skins to the promised land...

Who says the real flaws are not in the coaching of Andy Reid that never provided Donovan a steady run game & put everything on his shoulders... Hell, he would have Donovan throwing 30-40 times in NYG Stadium in a 30 mile an hour wind... Shanny will fix the O-Line between now & camp, I have no doubt... McNabb will probably at most have to throw 60 percent in a football game unless we need to make a comeback & this will take a lot of pressure off of him.

Posted by: tony325 | April 13, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Here's what the bottom line is. What can they get for AH? If it is a first round pick and an additional (Third?) round pick, they take it. If it is Brandon Marshall, they take it. If it is less, they become "happy together," and press forward together. That's it!

Posted by: moon9778 | April 13, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Brian Baldinger is a D-Bag, D-List color commentator. Who cares what this bama has to say?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Brian Baldinger is a D-Bag, D-List color commentator. Who cares what this bama has to say?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

To hear him tell it, you'd think McNabb just lucky to land on a team that could carry him to the playoffs.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | April 13, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's what the bottom line is. What can they get for AH? If it is a first round pick and an additional (Third?) round pick, they take it. If it is Brandon Marshall, they take it. If it is less, they become "happy together," and press forward together. That's it!

Posted by: moon9778 | April 13, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I all about getting value for AH, but not in the form of Brandon Marshall..

I'm just happy we didnt sign Kyle's BFF Chris Simms.. so cute how they inked each others initial on their legs..

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2006_4181698

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 13, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Why Campbell gotta be Bubba though?

Why not Lt. Dan or the dude banging his moms making 'O' sounds?

Or the Elvis spoof?

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 10:39 AM
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I would say it is the set of his jaw that made me think of the Bubba spoof, but you can plug in any character you want. That picture is just plain bad...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 13, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

A person has to really hate McNabb and hate this trade if that person is going to put stock in what Brian Baldinger has to say.

Posted by: Skins930 | April 13, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Trade LL only if they can get Berry or Earl Thomas (who looks like the Second Coming of Sean)..No way trade back, dcsween, if they can reach a little and take Okung..Okung moves like a stallion at the combine and Orakpo says he's the best tackle he's ever played against..'nuff said..

Posted by: frak | April 13, 2010 11:50 AM
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earl thomas is not the 2nd coming of st21!!! sean was 6-4 240 lbs and ran a 4.3 40 and the best safety in the nfl... earl thomas would be lucky enough to stare at st21!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | April 13, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"Here's what the bottom line is. What can they get for AH?"


Here's the other bottom line: to move AH means you'd have to replace what he does with a first round type player.

And no one is going to give up a 1st rounder for the guy.

Let Albert be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

A person has to really hate McNabb and hate this trade if that person is going to put stock in what Brian Baldinger has to say.

Posted by: Skins930 | April 13, 2010 12:45 PM
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Baldinger says it is a bad deal for the Redskins. Sanders says it is a great deal for the Redskins. Blah, blah, blah. There will be analysts, former players, and some cheerleaders sitting on both sides of the debate over the McNabb trade. I'll put my credence in the words of one of the players that have practiced with him. Cooley was loving himself some McNabb and that's all I have to hear.

BTW, how does a guy who, as a player, did nothing but show his butt to the QB every week suddenly become an expert on quarterbacks? It's like Joe the plumber doing your electrical work...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 13, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

alan4

"Only burgundy and gold glasses prevent people on this board from seeing that at this point, McNabb is being set up for failure... just like JC17 was."

Repost this comment Monday, April 26th after everyone has absorbed the outcome of the NFL Draft.

I'm quick sure it'll be the seasoning for the crow you'll be dining on.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse
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I think people missed the "at this point" part of that post, but I sure hope you are right anyway.

I'd feel much better if Monday, April 26th brings us two tackles blocking, but if we end up with just a partridge in a pear tree, I'd be inclined to avert my eyes during the upcoming season.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

"Here's what the bottom line is. What can they get for AH?"

Here's the other bottom line: to move AH means you'd have to replace what he does with a first round type player.

And no one is going to give up a 1st rounder for the guy.

Let Albert be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 12:52 PM
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And here is the bottomest of the bottomest bottom lines: Shanahan runs the team, not Haynesworth. Shanahan will not tolerate Haynesworth's free lancing on and off the field. Haynesworth is as good as gone.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | April 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Baldinger is alright when he is breaking down tape. But if we don't get some beef up front for Mcnabb this will not work. So far we have not really addressed the O-line, though there is still plenty of time and moves to make to improve there. If we don't improve the O-line however then Mcnabb will do now more the JC did. Mcnabb gets injured, often. He once got injured running out of bounds not a person in the area to lay a finger on him. For all of JC's deficiencies he for the most part stayed healty after taking some serious punishment. The same can not and will not be said for McNabb.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Deion Sanders >>>>> Brian Baldinger

Deion picked QB passes and this idiot Baldinger picked his nose on the sidelines.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

""You don't measure it by the supporting cast, you don't measure it by how good the defense is, you just measure it by what the guy does in big games. And in my viewpoint, he came up woefully short in a lot of big games....I know everybody wants to put the record up there, and how many wins and championship games he played in, and you can't take those things away from the guy. Those are all there. But I think you have to evaluate quarterbacks, and franchise quarterbacks, in a totally separate category. Whether it's fair or not fair, that's how I do it."

It's stupid to make judgements that are so patently unfair, but props to Baldinger for openly admitting he's something of a blockhead.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Baldinger's comments about people being "afraid" to criticize McNabb really devalue anything else he as to say, not that it starts out at a high level. Has he ever been to Philadephia? This is the town that booed Santa and Mike Schmidt, nobody is afraid to criticize anybody there. That sounds just a little paranoid.

On the merits, his criticisms don't make much sense either. To say that you can evaluate a QB's performance in big games without accounting for the quality of the rest of the team is just backwards - as the opposition get's better, it's less likely you'll be able to to overcome an unbalanced roster or gameplan with individual brilliance, not more likely.

And do you notice that his description of DFM - great, strong athlete, not smart enough to understand the gameplan or read the defense quickly - is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script.

One important reason to hope we get better is to reduce the chances Baldinger gets assigned to our games.

Posted by: zimbar | April 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"We have a plan. We are going to execute the pan. Free agency, trades, the draft."

I keep remembering BA(and Shanny to a lesser extent) saying some version of this quote multiple times. IF the season started yesterday, baldinger and the other nay sayers would be right. It didn't, and they aren't (yet). It remains to be seen if they will ever be.


Me thinks JC's future could be mightily affected by doings in NYC today. If nothing else, JC is a Good Dude and fine citizen.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | April 13, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who have ever read Baldinger's column in The Sporting News, he's an unbiased, analytical, and honest analyst who obviously studies game film before he offers opinions. Everything he's said about McNabb is true and about the Redskins weaknesses are true. As a Redskins fan, I can say the same things about McNabb after seeing him play the Redskins twice a year for the last 11 years.

He's simply not a very accurate passer on short and mid-range throws, but is able to buy time with his feet. He also throws his fair share of picks and throws into coverage. Is he an obvious upgrade over Campbell? Yes, but he's won 1 of 5 championship games that Philly went to and that was behind talented offensive lines with strong defenses who often gave him good field position or scored points.

Unless the Redskins substantially improve their line through the draft and/or free agency, I seriously doubt that the win total will increase by more than a couple of games. Also, McNabb has never proven to be very durable and would never have survived the number of hits Campbell absorbed last year.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 13, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

go google news for lions nfl draft

they think Lions d-line #1 priority like we think o-line Redskins #1 priority.

Would be surprised if Lions did not take Suh. Not shocked, but surprised.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 13, 2010 12:05 PM

Fine. Send them Albert. Schwartz was his defensive coordinator. Matt Stafford's mom is pretty insistent that the Lions get serious about their offensive line.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Could the RIer who continiously emails JReid ask him if his source is within Redskin Park or outside Redskin Park?

This ish is crazy and I ain't beleiving JReid because I/We know for a fact his source is not BA nor Shanny.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

And do you notice that his description of DFM - great, strong athlete, not smart enough to understand the gameplan or read the defense quickly - is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script.

Posted by: zimbar

You don't have read comments from Baldinger for that assessment. All you have to do is read comments from idiots like 'vic1' calling Campbell a "mouth breather".

mouth breather = "we Todds"

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

1. Jason Reid, is the Paul Harvey of sports.
"Now here's the rest of the story"


2. Baldy can shove it.


"Good Day"

Posted by: dashriprock | April 13, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

And do you notice that his description of DFM - great, strong athlete, not smart enough to understand the gameplan or read the defense quickly - is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script.

Posted by: zimbar | April 13, 2010 1:03 PM

You forgot "articulate."

Also, Toby Gearhart says he wants to play RB. I wish him the best of luck with that, esp. with the very very boring comparisons to Riggins and Allstott. Obviously, he has the same "style" as those two because being a white RB in the NFL is a "style".

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

FIRST to say AH is as good as gone. Book it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 13, 2010 10:37 AM |

NO way.....He is more valuable to us....We keep him here this year, and trade him if need be next year....HE has 3 years remaining...I think we deserve a top 15 pick straight up....OR a low cost Starting OLineman with atleast 3 years remaining on their contract......

If we can get a low cost Starting LT who has a few years on his contract, he can then select Spiller or McClain.....

That's the only way he gets sent packing this year...or next....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but he's won 1 of 5 championship games that Philly went to (and he had one of the most talented teams in the last decade).

_______________________________

Couldn't this be said of Andy Reid?

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Also, Toby Gearhart says he wants to play RB. I wish him the best of luck with that, esp. with the very very boring comparisons to Riggins and Allstott. Obviously, he has the same "style" as those two because being a white RB in the NFL is a "style".

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Here is another one... why does Jordan Shipley gotta be the next Wes Welker?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 13, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Derrick Coleman= pathetic.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 13, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

... I think we deserve a top 15 pick straight up ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:15 PM

Titans have the #15 pick.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Red --

For what it's worth, I have never ever referred to JC17 as a "mouth breather."

Vic

Posted by: Vic1 | April 13, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"....is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script."

The people who believe that always forget to drop W Moon's name as the exception to their jacked up rule.

Warren Moon is probably the best passer no one talks about.

His singular problem was bing born at the wrong time.

Today, with all the rampant passing, Moon would put up Manning/Brees-like numbers year in and year out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who have ever read Baldinger's column in The Sporting News, he's an unbiased, analytical, and honest analyst who obviously studies game film before he offers opinions.

Posted by: wizfan89

Geeze, did he pay you before or after he was "done" with you?

Unbiased? Wrong.

The dude played for the Eagles and lives in "Eagles Country". But that wouldn't give him ANY reason AT ALL for being completely in the tank for ANYTHING the Eagles have done or will do.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Baldy is nothing but a Eagles Fan on TV....

Sup Rallo...I mean RedDMV??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjBeXCqGKkY&feature=related

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

... I think we deserve a top 15 pick straight up ...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:15 PM

Titans have the #15 pick.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:21 PM

I'd be surprised if the titans gave up a 1st rounder for AH. They did that once before, didn't they. IMO the best the Skins can hope in a draft this talented and deep is a 2nd rounder. I just don't see where the value is for the Skins in trading AH.

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Also, Toby Gearhart says he wants to play RB. I wish him the best of luck with that, esp. with the very very boring comparisons to Riggins and Allstott. Obviously, he has the same "style" as those two because being a white RB in the NFL is a "style".

Posted by: dcsween


There is no chance that Gerhart will play RB in the NFL. I think he'll be converted into a FB or TE in the NFL...

Even though it isn't true, it does feel good to twist that for a change.

Travis Jervey - the last white RB I seen play in the NFL.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a fan of the McNabb trade -- think we'd have been better off turning those picks into OL which is a huge problem -- but Baldinger is being a fool. McNabb is a good/very good QB.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

JReid sucks! Nothing else to say.

Posted by: tramellcanady | April 13, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

He's going to be handing off to...I've never seen three old running backs on a team before in this league.

Posted by: Alan4 | April 13, 2010 11:32 AM

You don't watch the Patriots?

Posted by: skinfanman | April 13, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Moe, you're aware that the "best passer no one talks about" was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2006, his first year of eligibility, right?

Just saying that perhaps his induction to some extent makes up for the slights he endured over the years, and perhaps it represents that he overcame being "born at the wrong time".

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Travis Jervey - the last white RB I seen play in the NFL.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:29 PM


Peyton Hillis

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Point #1

I have never heard Albert Haynesworth say anything negative about this new regime. He even said, "I will not be a disruption...I will do what they ask me to do." to continue to speculate as dredge up this is irresponsible. Now...does a red flag go up that he didn't show for voluntary workouts, but neither did Springs, Taylor or Landry...it doesn't mean they aren't team guys.

Point #2

I keep hearing that we have no O-line depth. No team has Pro bowl lineman on the bench. You hope that you have quality starting o-lineman and guys behind them that can step in and contribute and protect the QB. Our Oline was weak to start the season last year. How you figure that Randy Thomas and Stepon Heyer would last the season is beyond me. Right now you have no LT (Heyer), Dockery (set), Racbach (set, for now), Williams (set), and Jones (?). If you sign Okung you instantly upgrade your oline. The key is our backups. This team went through hell last year, and I would be that our backups are better for it, plus we have a new coach. You won't know if you have quality depth until a guy goes down. Also, I want to see if Shanahan can coach up some of these guys (Heyer, E. Williams, Rinehart) so they can be viable backups. I don't trust what I saw under Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Toby Gerhardt is legit he will play RB in the NFL barring injuries, he has a high running style kindof like Brandon jacobs. That style is not good to the knees and ankles.
Peyton Hillis was with Denver now on the Browns is now and was in the past a white RB.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 13, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Another point...

What allegiance does Shanahan have to Jason Campbell? Shouldn't a coach have the right to pick "his QB"? Campbell just wasn't Shanahan's guy...nothin' personal.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 13, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I keep hearing that we have no O-line depth. No team has Pro bowl lineman on the bench. You hope that you have quality starting o-lineman and guys behind them that can step in and contribute and protect the QB. Our Oline was weak to start the season last year. How you figure that Randy Thomas and Stepon Heyer would last the season is beyond me. Right now you have no LT (Heyer), Dockery (set), Racbach (set, for now), Williams (set), and Jones (?). If you sign Okung you instantly upgrade your oline. The key is our backups. This team went through hell last year, and I would be that our backups are better for it, plus we have a new coach. You won't know if you have quality depth until a guy goes down. Also, I want to see if Shanahan can coach up some of these guys (Heyer, E. Williams, Rinehart) so they can be viable backups. I don't trust what I saw under Zorn.

Posted by: rickyroge |

seems a bit optimistic. BMW does have a shot at being a G, but its hardly set. As for depth guys, only Heyer showed he has what it takes to be depth. Hicks may be the best backup we've got -- though I can't say I'm familiar with his play.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Gerhardt = Corey Dillion

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

He's simply not a very accurate passer on short and mid-range throws, but is able to buy time with his feet. He also throws his fair share of picks and throws into coverage. Is he an obvious upgrade over Campbell?

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 13, 2010 1:07 PM

Eagle fans and Eagle talk show hosts were fairly unanimous in wanting to get rid of McNabb. Besides not having touch on his short throws, he does not have a history of last minute heroics. Don't count on McNabb when you're behind by a score with two minutes to go. As for interceptions, one of his strengths is avoiding them. The pluses are, he throws a good deep ball and he avoids turnovers (when he's not in the SB).

Posted by: skinfanman | April 13, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Moe, you're aware that the "best passer no one talks about" was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2006, his first year of eligibility, right?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse
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We still don't talk about him much. Of course, I can't say I've seen much discussion over his ring-less contemporaries (Marino, Kelly, Cunningham), either.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

nateinthepdx

"...you're aware that the "best passer no one talks about" was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2006, his first year of eligibility, right?"



What I mean is folks drop the names Marino, Aikman, Fouts, and others when the want to compare a good passer to a great passer.

Warren Moon's name hardly ever comes up in the conversation, despite his being a HOF'er who also has a CFL mileage on his resume.

He threw a very pretty ball and was extremely accurate from what I remember.


Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Gerhardt=Neiahmiah Broughton

wait, what was the question again....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 13, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'd be surprised if the titans gave up a 1st rounder for AH. They did that once before, didn't they. IMO the best the Skins can hope in a draft this talented and deep is a 2nd rounder. I just don't see where the value is for the Skins in trading AH.

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 1:29 PM

1. They did it before, they could do it again.

2. If not, maybe the Lions' second pick in the second round ... that would be consistent with their real need (LT) and would justify them picking Okung to their fan base as a reason for passing up Suh/McCoy. Schwartz has managed Haynesworth before.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

4th, you tryin' to fry a bama?

You ol' El DeBarge face ass bama.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"Warren Moon is probably the best passer no one talks about."

Actually, I think it's more because he didn't start his career in the NFL. Anybody who watched football back then knows how good he was.

And he was VERY good.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 13, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for clearing that up for me JR.

Unreal what passes for journalism these days.
Totally irresponsible reporting IMO.

Posted by: addystrong | April 13, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"What I mean is folks drop the names Marino, Aikman, Fouts, and others when the want to compare a good passer to a great passer."

I'm also probably in the minority about Marino, I never thought he was all that although he was on some really bad teams in his career.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | April 13, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Schwartz has managed Haynesworth before."


Excellent point.

So in order to trade for a guy he knows how to manage, do you think he'd trade C Johnson to us all in the name of a 'fair deal'?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Gerhardt = Corey Dillon

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 13, 2010 1:41 PM

Thank you and I agree. Also, much more like Dillon than Jacobs ... at least in the way he carries his body and the way he cuts.

Gearhart is not big enough to be fullback (though Jacobs is).

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

He threw a very pretty ball and was extremely accurate from what I remember.


Posted by: MistaMoe | April 13, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Warren Moon 291 TD vs. 233 Int. No bad #'s but by comparison, Dan Marino 420 TDs vs 252 Int.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 13, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Moe, point taken. I hereby pledge to mention Warren Moon as much as I can when talking about great QBs. I'll do my part.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Part of Moon's issue was that he really never made a name for himself until people had already decided he was nothing special.

He started playing well in his early 30's and did it for another decade, throwing huge numbers of passes.

For most of Moon's good years, he was supposed to be on the decline ... and he wasn't.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Unless the Redskins substantially improve their line through the draft and/or free agency, I seriously doubt that the win total will increase by more than a couple of games. Also, McNabb has never proven to be very durable and would never have survived the number of hits Campbell absorbed last year.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 13, 2010 1:07 PM

So dumb. A wiz fan is up here opining on the 'Skins? Junior, you have no credibility anywhere posting as a "wiz fan."

But, to your lame point, the 'Skins have improved substantially by adding a coaching staff. If Shanahan had been coach last year the Redskins would have gone 10-6 even with the same roster and same line that Zorn coached.

Specifically, Shanahan would have won these games that Zorn lost: Detroit, Carolina, Dallas, New Orleans, San Diego, and Kansas City.

McNabb injury prone? He's missed four games in the last three years.

Now, how about the Wizards? Who can you get to coach Ernie's roster and make the playoffs?

Posted by: League-Source | April 13, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

4th

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

2. If not, maybe the Lions' second pick in the second round ... that would be consistent with their real need (LT) and would justify them picking Okung to their fan base as a reason for passing up Suh/McCoy. Schwartz has managed Haynesworth before.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 1:46 PM |

That's great...for the Lions. What does it do for the Skins but weaken the talent base, taking their most disruptive defensive player off the team; and returning to us a defense that was dead last in sacks and TOs a few years back with the only new addition being Orakpo. I don't see the value in a high second round pick for AH.

Posted by: TWISI | April 13, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

So the Buffalos, St. Loiuss, and Tampa Bays have put the most stock in their o-line since 2005 over any other team. These top 3 o-line drafting teams have used multiple>>MULTIPLE

From '05-'08 under Bruce Allens GM leadership the Tampa Bays selected 7>>SEVEN

When are these teams gonna reap the benefits of constantly drafting O-linemen? Alan4?

Will these teams be future powerhouses?
zcezcest?

I've posted other draft pick stats before ladies and gentlemen(not too long ago in fact). Please educate yourself wizfan89. The Dallass, Minniesotas, Nawlins, Sandieagos, Indy Mannings and NYJets have drafted a combined 9 picks in the top 3 rounds on o-linemen.

When are those QBs going suffer the consequences of their GM neglecting drafting O-linemen?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 13, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

So dumb. A wiz fan is up here opining on the 'Skins? Junior, you have no credibility anywhere posting as a "wiz fan."

Posted by: League-Source | April 13, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse
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And I suppose your convenient allegiance to Duke basketball but not football gives you the moral authority to call someone out on this blog as rooting for 'the wrong team'?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"Indy Mannings [et al] have drafted a combined 9 picks in the top 3 rounds " posted by skinsneedagm.

Then why did Indy start a bunch of lower round picks and undrafted free agents last season, while a second rounder sat on the bench?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 13, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Editor: what is wrong with using the

continued:

>>MULTIPLE top picks on O-linemen.

>>SEVEN top picks on O-linemen: ONE-1st rounder, TWO-2nd rounders and, TWO-3rd rounders.

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 13, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I remember on the EA sports NCAA football games Duke's prestige was so low that there weren't any announcers calling the game. All you heard was the stadium PA.

Duke Football sucks. North Carolina football sucks. Both programs are a joke and are gimmie wins for other ACC teams EVERY year.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 13, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Conspiracy-Editor keeps censoring important info.

apparently the "less-than" sign (opposite of >) cannot be posted :(

AND

I've posted other draft pick stats before ladies and gentlemen(not too long ago in fact). Please educate yourself wizfan89. The Dallass, Minniesotas, Nawlins, Sandieagos, Indy Mannings and NYJets have drafted a combined 9 picks in the top 3 rounds on o-linemen.(insert: since 2005)

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 13, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

skins -- posted a while back on what the best teams do in their drafts. I called it balanced drafting. About 1/6 of early/mid round picks are on OL, same on DL. Nearly 25% on DBs.

Vinny's problem was getting the balance wrong -- he wasn't too bad on the talent. Of course, you can draft the right balance and do a bad job figuring out the talent ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Then why did Indy start a bunch of lower round picks and undrafted free agents last season, while a second rounder sat on the bench?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 13, 2010 2:03 PM

Then why aren't the teams who have been putting the most stock into their O-line, the past 5 drafts, reaped the benefits yet?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 13, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey Nate, if I showed you a pic with my gf in it, do you think you could pick her out?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

j reid, do you have a TV? Do you have the NFL network? "Albert Haynesworth will report for mandatory mini camp" has been scrolling for over a week.

c'mon man, you lost your burst, woops you never had one

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Vinny's problem was getting the balance wrong -- he wasn't too bad on the talent. Of course, you can draft the right balance and do a bad job figuring out the talent ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse
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Vinny's problem was also the sample size was WAAAAAAYYYYY too small. Picks spent for the equivalents of Trung Candidates, TJ Ducketts, Jason Taylors, Portises, etc are what kill us.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The editor must be a Phillydelphia Phan. The editor purposefully deleted parts of my post that were not offensive, but just contained a few math symbols.

Why the hate, editor? Afraid my points are a little to valid against your we need an o-line bias?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | April 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"And do you notice that his description of DFM - great, strong athlete, not smart enough to understand the gameplan or read the defense quickly - is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script.

Posted by: zimbar"

Baldinger ain't exactly the sharpest samurai sword in the drawer- who gives a flyin' rat's a** what he thinks..McNabb is going to the HOF, unlike The Dweezil Report...

Posted by: frak | April 13, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

did you guys read baldy's comments on mcNabb??

can't read a D, not consistently accurate

hugnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 13, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I love this one ... that's how I feel most Tuesday mornings.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/riptornmug1.html

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Baldy's one of my LEAST favorite game commentators, BUT not being a fan of his I was still impressed by his analysis on the NFL network.

He's a "doofus" but he knows the game and knows how to analyze film

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 13, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse


draft picks by position (rds 1-5, 2001-2008)
Col 1: Skins
Col 2: avg of Pats, Colts, Steelers, jints

QB 11% -- 05%
OL 07% -- 16%
WR 21% -- 09%
TE 14% -- 08%
RB 07% -- 05%

DL 04% -- 16%
LB 11% -- 15%
DB 25% -- 24%

Tm 00% -- 02%


Skins spent 7% on OL and 4% on DL -- the top teams spent 16% on each. We spent 35% of picks on WR/TE -- twice the % of the top teams.

And yes, we did have significantly fewer picks than other teams, but we're talking about an 8 year sample size, so its a pretty large sample

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 13, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"And do you notice that his description of DFM - great, strong athlete, not smart enough to understand the gameplan or read the defense quickly - is straight out of the pre-Doug Williams "why blacks can't play quarterback" script.

Posted by: zimbar"

sounds like comments about Campbell up here

hugnnnnn! just sayin

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 13, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

It always amazes me the people on here that claim CFB stuff yet never watch CFB. Saying that UNC and Duke are the same program right now is pretty fing stupid. Maryland football blows so you should not base your opinions on CFB from what the terrible terps do. Just casue they cant beat Duke does not put a basketball rivaly on the same level football wise. Butch Davis has that program going in the right direction unlike the majority of ACC teams. Again though you prob dont know who Butch Jones is.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 13, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1

wow, we should have 5 pro bowl WRs, how many do we have?...oh yeah, zero

doh!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 13, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"The Dallass, Minniesotas, Nawlins, Sandieagos, Indy Mannings and NYJets have drafted a combined 9 picks in the top 3 rounds on o-linemen.

When are those QBs going suffer the consequences of their GM neglecting drafting O-linemen?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM"

Interesting way you posed that question. Neglecting "drafting" o-linemen.

According to you, they've combined for 9 draft picks in the first three rounds.

But Dallas set a contract record for a guard by signing Leonard Davis in free agency.

Minnesota beat that record by signing Steve Hutchinson (giving up 1st and 3rd round draft picks in the process).

The Jets have 2 first round draft picks on their line (Ferguson and Mangold), broke the bank for all-pro guard Allen Faneca, and signed former all-pro Damien Woody to man the right side.

And as for when the QBs will suffer the consequences of their "neglect" along the o-line? Ask Bill Polian. He'll tell you it happened during the Super Bowl.

Posted by: psps23 | April 13, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

zeke, yes, I think I could. Let's give it a try.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 13, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | April 13, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: terrapin3 | April 13, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't fully share his DMN analysis, but Baldy's far more right than wrong.

Painful truth is that McNabb won't make the Redskins successful. They have way too many other needs. I still shocked at what Shanahan gave up for him.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 13, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I assume this was beeped.

Posted by: dcsween | April 13, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So just to clarify: Haynesworth won't show up this weekend unless he does.

Got it.

Posted by: Original_etrod
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That's just hilarious!

Posted by: hand_of_doom | April 13, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Why should anyone on the Redskins team, much less Haynesworth, be required to play in a position he is not familiar with nor was acquired to play in? Look at what happened to Randle El.

He was acquired to compliment WR Santana Moss. Randle El was not used properly in the WR position and was tried at kick/punt returning. He flopped and was released.

Haynesworth has every right to say no to the 3-4 defense if he is not familiar with it nor was acquired to play in it.

If the Redskins would allow their players to play in positions they're familiar with and acquired to play in, the Skins might be a better team with a winning record.

What next, trying QB Jason Campbell at punter or offensive lineman? How about Coach Shanahan try out as QB or kick/punt returnman? Sound stupid? Yes. The Redskins are too busy requiring their players to play out of position which hurts not only the individual players but the whole team as well.

Posted by: memyselfI1 | April 13, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey I'm gonna have to agree with Brian Baldinger.

Posted by: Alan4
Dude you and Baldinger are entitled to your opinion, I'll say this if you know anuthing about football if Mcnabb is so erratic , inaccurate , and bad how did the Eagles dominate the NFC East basically ever since he has been in the league...During that time name me Mcnabb's receivers up until they got T. O..... , ok, theh before Westbrook was there they had Deuce Staley who is not what I would regard as a receiving threat, so even with Westbrook teams would try to sceme him out but Mcnabb was still successful...As a Redskin fan I hated Mcnabb cause he kicked our azz year in an year out ..So if you don't like the guy you can't take away his accomplishments

Posted by: BeatDontStop | April 13, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Put Haynesworth on special teams and nothing else. Paying someone that much money he should be willing to attend voluntary events so let's see if he wishes he had attended the voluntary stuff after a season on special teams!

Posted by: mycroft711 | April 13, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Big deal Haynesworth will not show up to minicamp, the fat-ass doesn't show up for games either. Package him and the hot dog Landry who cant cover a sandwich for players shannahan can use.

Posted by: wrdt1995 | April 14, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Big deal Haynesworth will not show up to minicamp, the fat-ass doesn't show up for games either. Package him and the hot dog Landry who cant cover a sandwich for players shannahan can use.

Posted by: wrdt1995 | April 14, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

"Peyton Hillis was with Denver now on the Browns is now and was in the past a white RB.Posted by: Stu27"

He's no longer white?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 14, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Mcnabb has he won a Super Bowl? No Flounder. He isn't one of the top QBs in the NFL. Until he wins one he isn't one of the best. He is just another QB and right now it looks like he will spend most of season scrambling to survive. No quality RBs, a joke of OL and a mediocre receiving corp.

Deadskins need to trade Cooley for picks and send Fat Albert packing.

Posted by: sheepherder | April 14, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I wasn't a McNabb fan - naturally - he was the quarterback for the Filthydelphia Iggles. So that did cloud my judgment about him.

Upon having to accept that we pulled the trigger and have McNabb now, I started to review him trying to find snippets of hope from him.

First and foremost - there is NO DISPUTE - McNabb is a field general. He is now wall flower of a quarterback like Campbell. McNabb will get in your face if you screw up. Campbell will send you flowers.

Second, McNabb's "failures" are likely a product of an offense that isn't predicated on common sense. Porky Pig's offense was pass first, pass second, and use the running game as a reason to justify a roster spot. And even in that offense where McNabb really didn't have the surprise of play action or the ability to get a third and 1 through a running play, he has a winning record as a quarterback - a very high percentage.

Third, in reviewing the Cowboy games at the end of the season, it looked like McNabb had had it with the offense. With plays being called that had no hope of succeeding, it looked as if McNabb was pressing. Had there been a legitimate running threat, McNabb would have been far more effective. The Cowboys were keying off on nearly every play and McNabb looked like Jason Campbell as a result of no running threat.

Lastly, we had to make a decision. We've given Jason Campbell far more than enough time to prove he could succeed. Yes, he has his excuses and I'm not 6' 8" tall and have no hope of being a basketball player. Whaaaaaaaa! When you look at Jason Campbell, given all of what has transpired, have you EVER seen him rise to the occasion and LEAD his team? Have you ever seen Jason Campbell put the team on his shoulders and drive the team through will power like Fav-ray, Brady, Manning (not Eli Mae), and the New Orleans QB?

If you can't find a positive answer for the last question, then the decision on Campbell's fate is not difficult. And when you factor in the DEMONSTRATED success of McNabb even in an offense that is dedicatedly ignorant of the running game, you are further compelled to show Campbell the door and to admit he was never the answer and that our search for a franchise quarterback now begins with McNabbb as a caretaker and tutor to a rookie.

Posted by: laserwizard | April 14, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I rather keep teams guessing right up until the draft. As far we know, these guys are probably kicking back with a couple of cold ones laughing at all the stuff that's coming out.

Anyways, I got 20 more days left in Iraq!!!! Hail to the Redskins!..Cowboys/Jerry Jones SUCK!!!

Posted by: Warpath85nIRAQ | April 15, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

WHY ARE THESE READER'S SO DISAPPOINTED IN HAYNESWORTH? HE DOING NOTHING BUT EXPRESSING WHERE HE WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE IN THE 3/4 AND THAT IS PERFERS THE 4/3. WE SHOULD BE DISAPPONTED IN MIKE SHANNAON WHO'S OBVIOUSLY NOT USE TO THIS TYPE OF POWER. WHY WOULD YOU UPSET YOUR BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM? BECAUSE JEALOUS PLAYERS COMPLAINED. CUT THE JEALOUS PLAYERS. GET SOME PLAYERS WHO WANT TO PLAY HARD. NOT SOME THAT WANT TO WATCH WHAT SOMEONE ELSE GETS AND COMPLAIN. WE NEED PLAYER WHO WILL PUT IT ON THE LINE EVERY GAME FOR US. WITH TALENT. THESE PLAYER WE HAVE CURRENTLY CAN NOT DO IT. IF YOU LOVE THIS GAME YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY. NOT MAKE EXCUSES.

Posted by: billyrowland | April 15, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

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