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Posted at 8:20 AM ET, 12/15/2010

Albert Haynesworth suspension: Union taking deliberate approach to appeal

By Jason Reid

It appears that Albert Haynesworth vs. the Washington Redskins will not be on a fast track toward resolution.

The NFL Players Association is handling the appeal on behalf of the two-time all-pro defensive lineman, whom the Redskins last week suspended without pay for the remainder of the regular season because of conduct detrimental to the club. On the day the Redskins took disciplinary action against his client, agent Chad Speck confirmed Haynesworth's plans to appeal.

Speck noted that the Redskins had not previously warned Haynesworth, a nine-year veteran, about his actions, possibly laying the groundwork for his defense. Under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, suspended players have the right to request expedited hearings, which must occur seven days after appeals are filed.

The union, however, did not take that path on behalf of Haynesworth, it seems, because it was not in his best interests or that of all the league's players.

Even if the suspension was overturned in arbitration before the end of the regular season (the Redskins have been mathematically eliminated from playoff contention), it is highly doubtful that Haynesworth would have played for the team in the final three games. The Redskins simply could have listed him as inactive against the Dallas Cowboys, Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants.

And judging by his teammates comments after the suspension was announced, it seems Haynesworth would not have been warmly received in the locker room. The Redskins have already paid Haynesworth almost $34.8 million for only 20 games on the roster, so even the chance to recoup the $847,000 he will lose in four game checks probably is not enough to motivate him to risk possibly having to work for them again this season.

As for the union's part, rushing Haynesworth's appeal in front of an arbitrator makes no sense from its standpoint, especially during a time of negotiations for a new labor deal. To say the least, Haynesworth is not a sympathetic figure, so it would seem to benefit the union to deal with this matter out of the public glare sometime after the regular season ends. And the union also probably fears that owners will use the Haynesworth-Redskins saga as part of their public relations efforts if CBA negotiations get really messy, so why provide more ammunition for the other side while things are still white hot?

At least at the moment, the Redskins are the big winner. With Haynesworth and the union apparently taking a slow approach, Coach Mike Shanahan does not have to worry about the possibility of seeing Haynesworth at Redskins Park for the remainder of the season. And likely ever again.

Many within the NFL believe the Redskins will eventually release Haynesworth, who would then be free to sign with another team if he cleared waivers. Although the Redskins would prefer to recoup some of Haynesworth's signing-bonus money (that's unlikely, according to people familiar with the CBA's forfeiture language) and not pay him the final $847,000 on his contract for this season, this is one of those rare situations in professional sports where it really wasn't about the money for them. The Redskins simply wanted to be rid of Haynesworth for the final four games.

Mission accomplished.

By Jason Reid  | December 15, 2010; 8:20 AM ET
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Comments

oh well.....another craptastic season draws to a close....the more it changes the more it stays the same....old boss/new boss...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Greg, the regular season is just a time killer until the real fun begins.

We're the only team in the NFL whose off sesaon has an off season.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 15, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm really going to miss the big guy.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth suspension: Appeal apparently not a high priority for union


From the union's standpoint, defending Albert Haynesworth would be like supporting everything the fans dislike in spoiled, rich athletes.

The NFLPA should avoid AH and let its inaction in his regard stand as an example to any other player who wants to take a team's money and not perform up to the contract.


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

It's Dallas week and there is still 'updates' about Fat Albert?

Weak.

Posted by: splitbill | December 15, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"this is one of those rare situations in professional sports where it really wasn't about the money for them. The Redskins simply wanted to be rid of Haynesworth for the final four games."

Mission accomplished.

By Jason Reid

This is 100% accurate. It's maddening for some to think that this is a money move. WTF would they care about 847k when that POS has 36 mil?

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I'm not going to miss the 5 Haynesworth posts a day from Reid and Co.

BTW, his trying to rush his hearing is probably the only time he's rushed in his life!

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

After his actions (or lack thereof) this season, AH is lucky the union takes his case at all...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, if that were true then AH would have been gone before Week 1. Or the trade deadline. Or after he damn near took a nap near the goal line in the Eagles game. Truth be told, I'm not exactly sure what this is about...and I doubt the Redskins know either.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

It's Dallas week and there is still 'updates' about Fat Albert?

Weak.

Posted by: splitbill | December 15, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for them. Anything to distaract me from the thought of all the (well deserved) crap I'm going to have to put up with from 'girls fans on Monday morning.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 15, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

McNabb: Will he stay or will he go?
By Rich Tandler
The Washington Redskins will have many player personnel decisions to make between now and the start of the 2011 season. All of them will be important but all will pale in comparison to the magnitude of what they decide to do with Donovan McNabb and the quarterback position. Here is a look at where they are now and what the options are for 2011.


Where they are now

In mid-November, the Redskins and McNabb agreed to a multi-year contract extension—sort of. The agreement basically is a series of one-year deals with annual salaries in the $13 million range for McNabb but very little in the way of guaranteed money. The Redskins could release him at virtually any time without suffering from any serious salary cap consequences.

In 2011, in fact, they could wait until shortly before the season starts to decide whether or not they want to keep him. For that reason, this verdict could well drag out over the spring and summer. It could make LeBron James figuring out where to take his talents look like a knee-jerk reaction.

Contract aside, the Redskins are getting a very uneven performance from McNabb this year. The quality of his play varies from game to game and from quarter to quarter. He makes great decisions followed by head-scratchers. One on play, he will zip the ball to a receiver in traffic and put the ball exactly where it needs to be. A few plays later he will make a wide-open receiver slow down and reach back for a pass. Or McNabb will throw it to him on one hop. McNabb as posted a quarterback rating of 119 in a loss and one of 58 in a win.

If McNabb was consistently playing as well as he does in his better moments, there would be no offseason decision, he would be retained. If the bad McNabb wore number 5 for the Redskins a bit more often he surely would be gone.

The up and down nature of McNabb’s performance makes this a difficult decision. Barring him going on a tear or falling apart in the last three weeks, the team will have to examine all of its options. Here are some of the scenarios they will consider in the order of the likelihood of each one actually occurring:

Keep McNabb, draft a quarterback high—25% chance

The Redskins could take a quarterback in the first or second round. Ryan Mallett of Arkansas and Cam Newton of Auburn are a couple of the possibilities. They could keep McNabb and insert the young player into the lineup at some point during the season as Shanahan did in with Jay Cutler in 2006. In Denver, he put the rookie into the starting lineup ahead of Jake Plummer with five games remaining in the season. The young QB could sit the whole season and take over in 2012 if he was not progressing fast enough.

(con't)

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Even w/ a perfect snap and hold, it was about 50/50 that Gano would've found the uprights on the PAT. They should've gone for 2.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 15, 2010 9:17 AM

After a very efficent drive and the defense on its heels...I was hoping they went for two and end it...I'm sure Brian Burke will break this down for us tomorrow.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 15, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

My Ideal FA Moves in the Offseason

1) Haloti Ngata - More than anything we need a NT to make this 3-4 work. Just throw cash at him until he says "when".

2) Ryan Harris - a Shanny draft pick from Denver. 25 years old. Plays RG and RT. Knows the zone-block. What's not to like?

3) Jammal Brown - So-so year could work in our favor. It means there likely won;t be much of a market for his services and we could re-sign him at a reasonable price. Hopefully one more offseason of rest/rehab will get him up/running more consistently.

4)Shawne Merriman - Contingent on health. We need a 3-4 pass-rushing OLB to complement Orakpo. Bring the DC-area native in and make sure the contract is heavy with performance incentives and see how it plays out.


My Ideal Draft

1) Justin Blackmon - Insane playmaker. Despite still having some kinks to work out in his game and untapped potential, he is obliterating the NCAA. Could be the #1 WR that slots everyone else - move Tana to #2, AA/Austin to #3-4.

2) Stefen Wisniewski - G/C from Penn State in the 2nd round could be the long-term replacement for Rabach. Knows his blocking and is athletic enough to play zone-block.

3) Other needs to tap in the draft w/ remaining picks - 3-4 LBs, a cornerback (we let Rogers walk), Linemen to groom on both sides of the ball.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

(con't)

Keep McNabb, get a new veteran backup—20% chance

This also would be a sign that the Redskins believe that McNabb will be better in 2011 than in 2010. The new backup could be a talented player who might need a change of scene but who wouldn’t expect to walk into a starting job. Alex Smith, the top overall pick in the 2005 draft, fits that description. So might Tavaris Jackson and Bruce Gradkowski. While none of these players would be a long-term solution, the key would be to have someone strong enough to take over if performance or injury issues intervene but who would be content to hold the clipboard if McNabb is competent and healthy. Certainly others will become available as free agency comes closer.

Keep McNabb, draft a project quarterback—15% chance

This scenario would have the Redskins take a developmental quarterback later in the draft, maybe in the fifth round or sixth round. A couple of possible prospects here are Colin Kaepernick of Nevada and Greg McElroy of Alabama. McNabb would be the unquestioned starter in 2011 and maybe 2012 while the raw but talented understudy gets ready.

The risk here is that if a quarterback lasts until the fifth round of the draft he is not a sure thing to develop into a quality starter. That would mean that the team would be taking the risk of itself in 2013 without a replacement for an aging McNabb.

Keep the status quo—15% chance

This would mean keeping McNabb as the starter and Rex Grossman, who is not under contract for 2011, and John Beck, who is signed through next year, as the backups. This would indicate a high comfort level with McNabb and confidence that a second full year in the offense would bring about the desired consistency.

While there may be some appeal in being patient and staying the course, the issue here is the lack of a backup plan. Grossman and Beck are short-term stopgaps at best, with “short-term” being defined as two or three games. If McNabb does not turn the corner, there would be no legitimate fallback option.

Release McNabb, sign a free agent quarterback—10% chance

The Redskins could decide that they like the idea of an experienced starting quarterback but not this specific one. They could let McNabb walk, accept a minimal cap hit, and spend the money on another veteran signal caller. It’s unlikely that Peyton Manning or Michael Vick will hit the open market but the likes of Kyle Orton and Matt Hasselbeck could well be available along with a few more who could be released in the spring.

A scenario related to this one would have the Redskins trading for a veteran QB just like they did last April and then releasing McNabb. However, after giving up second- and fourth-round picks for McNabb, their supply of trade assets was severely diminished.

(more)

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

(conclusion)

Draft a quarterback high, release McNabb—10% chance

An unusual clause in McNabb’s contract makes this a possibility. He is due an option bonus of around $10 million in 2011. Normally these payments are paid out around the time that the league year starts in early March or soon thereafter. The Redskins can wait until about a week before the start of the regular season to decide if they want to pay McNabb that money or release him.

The Redskins probably wouldn’t wait until August to make the call on McNabb but they could wait until after the draft. They could then determine if they had a quarterback who could be ready to go in September and decide to save the $10 million plus McNabb’s 2011 salary of about $3 million. Washington would then either sink or swim with the new guy or bring in one of the second-tier (cheaper) veterans discussed above, someone like Alex Smith, to handle the snaps until the rookie is ready.

Trade McNabb—5% chance

McNabb’s contract makes it fairly easy to trade him since there is so little guaranteed money involved. The trick would be finding a trade partner who thinks that he can thrive as a starter on that team after failing on this team.

So it’s possible that the Redskins could deal McNabb and then execute one of the “release McNabb” scenarios above

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

It's Dallas Weak.

And let's be honest about the second time around with the Cowboys: the team we beat in week 1 has been replaced by a more determined group of players.

Media commentators around the NFL have noticed that with W Phillips gone, interim Cowboy head coach Jason Garrett has morphed the pokes' underperforming offense into the run-first monster it should have been all year long.

And so, the luckless 5-7 redskins come to town to play the 4-8 cowboys in a game where both combatants are fighting not to be in last place as first has been taken over--again--by the squabbling jints and iggles.

It's like the cowboys and redskins are the kids who are alwys caught up fighting not to be in the back seat of the car.

Folks in Dallas have had their Super Bowl dreams squashed by Bum Phillips' son's incompetence and folks in D.C. who thought Shanahan meant 'playoffs' now know that 'rebuilding' is the more appropiate word.

For all the chatta about pokes v. skins and the t.v. ratings that go with it, it's the jints and iggles who've ruled the NFC East these past years.

And Eli v. Mike Vick will be the talk for a few years to come.

Increasingly, D.C. and Dallas are becoming afterthoughts as football teams in both cities are always strong on paper and weak on the field.

Cowboys v. Redskins isn't a rivalry game.

It's a game featuring the weak.

It's a battle for next to last place.

And I hope we win it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Zomg what is Reid going to post about next season?!?!?.. No fat al drama... Oh wait I'm sure there will be plenty of al posts with him being on a different team.. This is the WaPo after all....

Posted by: SteveOman | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

p1, not trying to nitpick, but what have you seen in the previous 2-3 seasons that makes you think Merriman was ANYTHING, but a product of steroids...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

McNabb will stay and Shanny will address other more immediate needs on the team this offseason.

Shanny drafting Cutler that high and playing him that early was the exception and not the norm. His history says he sifts through veteran QBs until he finds one he likes.

Shanny knows that if he can address the Oline and get the run game going consistently, and add a real playmaker in the WR corps; then it will take alot of pressure off of the QB position.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

p1, not trying to nitpick, but what have you seen in the previous 2-3 seasons that makes you think Merriman was ANYTHING, but a product of steroids...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM

What has he seen? He's a Terp. That's it that's the list.

I have a soft spot for him too. I'd bring him in on a low salary/highly incentivized contract. No way would I give him a multiple year deal with any guaranteed money. I think he's done.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

p1, not trying to nitpick, but what have you seen in the previous 2-3 seasons that makes you think Merriman was ANYTHING, but a product of steroids...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I know, we've been over this before.

The season that Merriman served his 4-game suspension; he came back AFTER the suspension and had about 17 sacks despite missing 4 games that year.

THe following season, he had 12.5 sacks.

So that's a 17 sack season and a 12.5 sack season post-steroids.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

pass on Merriman....cat's done...can't get right can't get healthy...no thanks..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

p1, not trying to nitpick, but what have you seen in the previous 2-3 seasons that makes you think Merriman was ANYTHING, but a product of steroids...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 AM

What has he seen? He's a Terp. That's it that's the list.

I have a soft spot for him too. I'd bring him in on a low salary/highly incentivized contract. No way would I give him a multiple year deal with any guaranteed money. I think he's done.


Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:41 AM


Maybe...but you can never have too many situational pass rushers. There's literally no downside to bringing him in on the cheap...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:45 AM

1st 3 years: 39.5 sacks, 8 FF
Last 3 Years: 4 sacks, 0 FF

This dude is Lattimer from The Program

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

McNabb’s contract makes it fairly easy to trade him since there is so little guaranteed money involved.


I'd say it all depends on if you can convince a team that McNabb would provide immediate help.

Teams in AZ or MINN might be convinced that DM5 could get them back into the playoffs.

But would either team part with picks to take on a vet quarterback when they could draft a young one--like the jets have--and suffer the warts of his maturation?

MINN has been burned by the 3rd they gave away for R Moss, so you might want to count them out of just such a derby.

AZ, though, has just been burned by the failure of M Leinhart, and might see in McNabb what they found in K Warner--a vet who could manage the offense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"So that's a 17 sack season and a 12.5 sack season post-steroids"

more recently, he's posted 0, 4, and 0, so...I mean, for the vet minimum with no bonus, I suppose....but again, he's done...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

pass on Merriman....cat's done...can't get right can't get healthy...no thanks..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Merriman's drop-off in production can be directly attributed to knee/foot injuries.

Now are those roid-related?? Who knows. But he's clearly had solid pass-rushing season post-roid.

At 26 years old, he's got some prime playing years ahead of him - we're not talking about a guy squeaking into his 30's.

We're also not talking about someone that we have to give AH-money to.

Like Brown said, there's no risk at bringing him in at this point.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

By my count we need to consider 13 positions "open" for potential starting rolls.

On offense, we need a 2nd starting half back, probably a new fullback, two guards and a center, and two wide receivers.

With a QB that has "Accuracy vs Power" problems but its time to move Moss for picks and find ourselves a guy who won't give up a tip Int ever other game. We have a few speed guys who can stretch the field, we now need that possession receiver.

On Defense, we need a NT, a OLB and an ILB, a true run stopping big ugly DE, and a free safety.

I will never understand why people liked Moore, he is another Strong Safety type trying to play free safety, he is Chris Horton without that signature big game in his career. It sucks to say it buy with RMac and LFB we have 2 ILB's who are not quite right for the job in a 3-4. We can get away with keeping 1 or both for situational stuff but we need a bigger presence for one ILB spot. Alexander has filled the outside spot as best he can, but finding a true LB would probably help, Keep Lo for his versatility and work ethic.

Oh and we probably need a new K P and LS.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 15, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

"So that's a 17 sack season and a 12.5 sack season post-steroids"

more recently, he's posted 0, 4, and 0, so...I mean, for the vet minimum with no bonus, I suppose....but again, he's done...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

C'mon BG.

The fact that he was playing with torn knee ligaments and has been on IR may have something to do with the drop-off in those numbers.

You think?

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Shanny knows that if he can address the Oline and get the run game going consistently, and add a real playmaker in the WR corps; then it will take alot of pressure off of the QB position.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 9:39 AM

Agreed

Posted by: wattsicon | December 15, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Why are people in hear STILL worried about getting a Center in the 2nd round? That's just dumb. That's 'VINNY DUMB', except Vinny wouldn't have drafted an Offensive Lineman! Obviously G is the major need on the OL. We all know there are needs across the board, but you have to know the difference between the needs that we need NOW, and the needs that can wait. Here are the needs that need to be addressed this offseason:

G - Both spots, this is the BIGGEST need!

NT - Kemo, sucks, and Anthony Bryant should be decent as a backup, but a starter is needed. This is a close 2nd as need goes.

WR - Play-makers would make McNabb look like a ProBowler again.

FS - Kareem Moore couldn't catch a cold in the open field, and he gets injured too much, we need an upgrade. He's ok as a backup though.

OLB - This is the last of the needs. Orakpo can't do it on his own and needs someone to compliment him, but a dominant NT could colapse the pocket and help out some.

The following are the needs that can wait due to lack of draft picks and possible Free Agents:

C - I agree Rabach needs to be replaced, but he's a good locker room guy and can call out the blocking schemes and blitzes pretty well. Good Guards around him should help his play improve as well.

CB - We could let Rogers go, but as far as 'Cover Corners' go, he's pretty good. I would still like to pick up a CB this year, but he doesn't have to be starter quality, just someone to push Barnes/Buchanon a little.

ILB - We can let Riley learn on the bench, and Fletch is still playing at a high level. A decision on McIntosh is a different story. I say let him go, but he might be retained cause we have too many other issues to address.

DE - They might give Jarmon a chance here, and Golston has a high motor, plus we could do worse in Carriker. I'd like to see Daniels and Holliday let go and a role player signed in FA, not a big splash. Let's get NT settled first, then bring in a blue chip DE.

RT - It all depends on if Brown comes back healthier next year.

QB - We can afford to keep McNabb if we add people around him. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and let his relationship develop with the Shanahans and learn the offense more.

Posted by: monk811 | December 15, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

McNabb’s contract makes it fairly easy to trade him since there is so little guaranteed money involved.


I'd say it all depends on if you can convince a team that McNabb would provide immediate help.

Teams in AZ or MINN might be convinced that DM5 could get them back into the playoffs.

But would either team part with picks to take on a vet quarterback when they could draft a young one--like the jets have--and suffer the warts of his maturation?

MINN has been burned by the 3rd they gave away for R Moss, so you might want to count them out of just such a derby.

AZ, though, has just been burned by the failure of M Leinhart, and might see in McNabb what they found in K Warner--a vet who could manage the offense.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 15, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse


With Childress gone from Minny, I don't see that as a desireable destination for McNabb anymore.

AZ is intriguing, especially b/c they need to do something to placate Larry Fitzgerald - who can opt out of his contract after 2011.

Another year of Derek Anderson, John Skelton and Max Hall will do just that.

Then AZ loses out on a guy who has basically become the face of their franchise and one of the faces of the NFL.

If bringing in McNabb will soothe the situation, then maybe we can scalp AZ for a high draft pick in a trade.

Even so, I don;t see Shanny going for it. We have no solution for our QB situation outside of McNabb right now - unless the coaches are seeing something from Grossman/Beck in practice that we don't know about.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

p1, 3 years worth of lousy stats seems to indicate a trend...

alex, I'd like to see what darrel young has from the FB position....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse


With Childress gone from Minny, I don't see that as a desireable destination for McNabb anymore.

AZ is intriguing, especially b/c they need to do something to placate Larry Fitzgerald - who can opt out of his contract after 2011.

Another year of Derek Anderson, John Skelton and Max Hall will do just that.

Then AZ loses out on a guy who has basically become the face of their franchise and one of the faces of the NFL.

If bringing in McNabb will soothe the situation, then maybe we can scalp AZ for a high draft pick in a trade.

Even so, I don;t see Shanny going for it. We have no solution for our QB situation outside of McNabb right now - unless the coaches are seeing something from Grossman/Beck in practice that we don't know about.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

If I am the FO, I hold McNabb, hoping Fitz opts out of AZ and grab him. I know people are against the "big signing" I am too, but to me a true stud WR is worth that PR hit.

I am so anti-draft when it comes to getting WR's. Let other teams take that gamble, the odds of a WR working out from the draft are too low for a team in rebuild mode to take the risk.

We need to not only focus on the draft but right now need to draft players in positions where the odds of success are the highest.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 15, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

We have no solution for our QB situation outside of McNabb right now - unless the coaches are seeing something from Grossman/Beck in practice that we don't know about.

Posted by: p1funk | December 15, 2010 10:03 AM

To a man Shanahan would admit that trading for McNabb was a mistake. He'll never admit it but with the way McNabb has played and the talk of starting Grossman this week says it all. I could have saved him the trouble over Easter of last YR but he never called..

McNabb is one and done here, say goodbye to last YRs 2nd and this YRs 4th. Our only hope is to recoup a pick in the offseason, high end 3rd - low end 5th.

I believe McNabb should be benched but not for Grossman or the 29 YR old Beck. How we don't have a under 24 YR old prospect on the bench is another bullet in the guns of the Shanahan detractors.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Beeps--->

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 15, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

p1, 3 years worth of lousy stats seems to indicate a trend...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 15, 2010 10:09 AM


Greg, to be fair it's not like he's playing 16 games and ending up with no sacks and no impact...he's been hurt. If you wanna say he's injury prone, fine...no argument there. But to say he's done because of roids or lack of desire or whatever else is pure speculation. Fact of the matter is WHEN HEALTHY, Merriman has been an elite level pass rusher. For a vet minimum salary or incentive-laden deal, the reward far exceeds what little risk exists (if any).

Worst case scenario he comes here, gets hurt again, goes on IR, gets cut in the offseason with no discernible cap hit. I'll wait for the part that kills our 2011 season...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 15, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

we had a rookie in training camp who we cut for Beck.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 15, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

We gotta get something in return for the guy, maybe he will come to his senses and try and work things out but most likely he hates shannahan at this point. Trade him somewhere dont release him ill take a 5th rounder at this point.

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 15, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The 'Skins are anything but "big winners". It is apparent now that the groundwork for the 4 game suspension was laid right after AH refused to participate in OTAs. We have pretty much forfeited a season to prove a point to AH even to the point of going strictly with the 3-4 to limit AH's involvement. Back in training camp, Haslett stated that they would run 3-4 and sometimes 4-3. The 4-3 rarely happened. Shanny won the battle but lost the war.

Posted by: SPUD2 | December 15, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

TRade mcflabb for fitz??? :D.. Draft Andrew luck... Haaa I wish.. In a dream world...

Posted by: SteveOman | December 15, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

TRade mcflabb for fitz??? :D.. Draft Andrew luck... Haaa I wish.. In a dream world...

Posted by: SteveOman | December 15, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I think Tana89, Cooley47 and Sleepy86 should chip in and get a Jugs machine for the off-season. HTTR

Posted by: ho-skin | December 15, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"At least at the moment, the Redskins are the big winner."

Nobody is the winner.

Posted by: joehat1 | December 15, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice this column is entirely speculation?

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 15, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

First!

Posted by: meximala | December 15, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Daniel M Synder is a genius. $32 million for 20 games? Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: Danmynder22026 | December 15, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Daniel M Synder is a genius. $32 million for 20 games? Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by: Danmynder22026 | December 15, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

If Haynesworth has grounds to appeal the suspension after both not showing up for numerous practices and refusing to play in games, then the rules are totally broken. What message does that send to other players?

Posted by: unclelonghair | December 15, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Are the redskins good?

Posted by: bucsdad1 | December 16, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Are the redskins good?

Posted by: bucsdad1 | December 16, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps the UNION should have been counseling that Fat Albert on PLAYING and FULFILLING his JOB RESPONSIBILITIES with regard to the statements he made AFTER taking the recent $21 million in cold cash.

Just like most UNIONS, they don't exist to ensure employees actually fulfill their obligations - they exist to screw the employers who end up having to resort to last ditch efforts to punish LAZY and SELFISH employees.

This whole Fat Albert situation could have been resolved had the UNION done its job and worked with management to deal with Haynesworth.

Now more than ever, I hope Haynesworth loses. The fact that the UNION is taking a head up the arse approach to his defense just makes my blood boil.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 16, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the UNION should have been counseling that Fat Albert on PLAYING and FULFILLING his JOB RESPONSIBILITIES with regard to the statements he made AFTER taking the recent $21 million in cold cash.

Just like most UNIONS, they don't exist to ensure employees actually fulfill their obligations - they exist to screw the employers who end up having to resort to last ditch efforts to punish LAZY and SELFISH employees.

This whole Fat Albert situation could have been resolved had the UNION done its job and worked with management to deal with Haynesworth.

Now more than ever, I hope Haynesworth loses. The fact that the UNION is taking a head up the arse approach to his defense just makes my blood boil.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 16, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

JASON REID !!!!! ... you continue to show your worthlessness as a writer and a true detractor from the Redskins cause !!!! ... you just can't leave the Albert Haynesworth thing alone can you ???? ... you just can't find anything else worth getting your teeth into ... if it's not negative and harmful to the Redskins organization, you just aren't interested ... i have seen you deteriorate over time from someone who was interesting with a good column to read, into someone who is self important, arrogant (i've seen you on TV) and just plain seems to have it in for the Redskins ... no matter what is going on you try to find the most negative outcome possible and shine your light right there ... I ... FOR ONE ... AM TIRED OF IT ... when i saw the title of this article i didn't even read it ... i don't care about Albert Haynesworth anymore ... and nothing he does (or doesn't do) should be considered newsworthy ... but of course ... that's my point ... you have reached a point in your self-absorbed career where you don't know (or worse ... don't care) what is newsworthy ... all you care about is drumming up whatever negativity you can find because you think negative news sells ... so what ... have a little dignity ... i won't be reading anything else you write (as if you ever read these comments) until you start writing something worth reading ... you need to take a good look in ther mirror pal ... Redskins fans don't need you !!!!

Posted by: obx13 | December 16, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

yes, but why didn't the Shanallen brain trust at least try to trade him for a draft pick before the last 4 games of the season? Was it worth more to them to keep him around while the Skins had a chance to make the playoffs? And if so, for what reason?

The questions will linger, tho I for one, am very happy to see him finally gone...

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 16, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Jason Reid:
I know many of us would like to put it all behind us, but this is far from over. If you really want to milk the Haynesworth debacle, you can have a dedicated column just for him. I vote we call it "BIG P*SSY" since he's by far the biggest one I've ever heard of.

Posted by: snyder_is_retarded | December 17, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

yes, but why didn't the Shanallen brain trust at least try to trade him for a draft pick before the last 4 games of the season? Was it worth more to them to keep him around while the Skins had a chance to make the playoffs? And if so, for what reason?

The questions will linger, tho I for one, am very happy to see him finally gone...

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 16, 2010 11:13 PM
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The trade deadline was week 6. The team was 3-3 then. It looked like they might be able to sneak into a playoff scenario with a couple of breaks. Who knew they'd used up all of their breaks just to get to 3-3.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | December 17, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

And he is rid of them!! Shanahan is a self-centered butt!

Posted by: designerchic | December 17, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

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