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Camp Storylines: No. 1 Albert Haynesworth

With Redskins training camp opening Thursday afternoon, this week on Redskins Insider we have counted down the most pressing issues the team faces as players prepare to report.

Will disgruntled, all-pro defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth report to camp in shape after skipping all but one day of Coach Mike Shanahan's first offseason program -- including a mandatory minicamp -- in a failed attempt to force a trade?

Haynesworth developed into one of the league's premier interior lineman while playing the three-technique tackle position in 4-3 schemes. Shanahan wants him to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 alignment, so Haynesworth would prefer to continue his career elsewhere.

The Redskins have discussed trading Haynesworth with some teams but decided to keep him. In recent days, Haynesworth has reached out to Redskins' coaches and is expected to report to training camp Thursday afternoon.

Prediction: Haynesworth will report to Redskins Park Thursday, in part because the team would be able to recoup some of the $32 million it has paid him (in only 17 months) if he fails to show up for the start of camp. Haynesworth is in much better condition than he was at any point during his first season with Washington, according to people familiar with his training program, having lost as much as 40 pounds.

Still, the Redskins will ask him to pass a conditioning test, and even if he succeeds, he'll start camp practicing with the reserves. If recently signed veteran nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu is fully recovered from an Achilles injury that sidelined him last season, he likely would start in the middle of the line and Haynesworth would mostly play end. Haynesworth probably would shift to the nose on third down and other obvious passing situations.

Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett knows that Haynesworth, when he's in shape and motivated, is among the league's most talented players. Haynesworth has accepted that he will be with the Redskins this season unless another team overwhelms the team with a trade offer, team sources said, and Shanahan could make his life miserable if he doesn't do what is asked of him. Both sides should be motivated to make the best of the situation.

By Jason Reid  |  July 29, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

Yeah I'm predicting exactly zero surprise that this is number 1 even though I'm absolutely sick of the storyline.

Posted by: hobbes9 | July 29, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Total Drama Island

Posted by: WRBD | July 29, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse


@brownwood26

Hey brown, you might be on to something here !

Optimists outlive pessimists

Optimists have a 55 percent lower death risk in general and a 23 percent lower death risk from heart failure than pessimists. The researchers who reached this conclusion define "optimist" as someone who "thinks in a positive way, sees the future as meaningful and fulfilling, has a desire to achieve new goals, and has a sense of happiness and joy." Beare points out, "It is well known that laughing boosts immunity and helps heal illness, and we can presume that optimists laugh more."

BOYCOTT PESSIMISM !!!

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Camp Storylines: No. 1 Albert Haynesworth


The obvious meets the self-evident and asks if reporting about the same thing over and over and over again makes for interesting reading.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

"If recently signed veteran nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu is...recovered...he likely would start in the middle of the line and Haynesworth would mostly play end."


Explain how this is a bad thing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

I thought they were gonna trade that guy. Guess I haven't paid attention...

Posted by: last1 | July 29, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

hess, if you were around this time last year you'd know full well that I'm anything but an optimist. For all the good I'm feeling about the Skins this offseason, I felt twice as bad about the '09 season. So with the amount of stress in my life, coupled with the intensity and insanity with which I root on my Redskins, I'll probably not live very far past 60.

Anyways, I don't see how Haynesworth is the #1 camp storyline...may start out that way because of the media attention, but I don't get how the play of Donovan McNabb, the WR competition, and the O-line play aren't higher on the list than AH's fat ass...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Albert, should be getting a check from the Washington Post. Its amazing the man crush Jason Reid has on him. When is the dinner date? Flowers? Speed-boat race? ahh yeah.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | July 29, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Optimists outlive pessimists

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 7:04 AM

But which way does the causation run? Do they live longer because they're optimistic or are they optimistic because they've outlived everyone else? Hessone, keep at it for now and when you reach 93 like Cork you can become an optimist.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 29, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm shocked that RI would call Haynesworth the #1 storyline. Shocked!

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | July 29, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

"If recently signed veteran nose tackle Maake Kemoeatu is...recovered...he likely would start in the middle of the line and Haynesworth would mostly play end."


Explain how this is a bad thing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 7:23 AM


Quite simply, it's not.

Dude is built to play NT and did so quite well as a Raven. I think he and Carriker are two underrated acquisitions that will pay big dividends this season.

What Reid keeps saying that is totally ignorant is "Haynesworth probably would shift to the nose on third down and other obvious passing situations." On passing downs and obvious passing situations, there IS NO NOSE TACKLE...it's back to the familiar 4-man front where AH goes back to his native RDT spot. Really, the only way he plays NT is if he ends up being Kemo's backup and they rotate Daniels/Jarmon in to spell him. I'd actually be pretty surprised to see him line up at NT more than a few times the whole year.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Well from all indications he's in better shape than last year. Let's kick back and see what happens. I choose to be optimistic.

Posted by: wireman65 | July 29, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse


hess, if you were around this time last year you'd know full well that I'm anything but an optimist.

I'm suprized brown, however, your optimism now says alot about the moves the Redskins made this offseason.

WaPo should move Steinburg from the bog to RI. Reid just keeps repeating stale news.

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

The biggest storyline from a football perspective (as opposed to a TMZ drama perspective) is whether the revamped O-line will gel. Second is whether the receiving corps has any talent. Our D was pretty good last year. AH helps, but they will be stout with or without Fat Albert.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | July 29, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

hess, it's amazing what a new FO and a coach/QB tandem worth a damn will do for a brotha's outlook...

And co-sign on the Steinberg move to RI...blogging and writing are two different things. Reid is a writer, Steinberg is a blogger. It only makes sense.

Which means it probably won't happen...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth isn't a story anymore. He's here for camp and he's on board. If he has any concern for his future he'll bust his hump all year. He may find he even likes Haslett's scheme. I think he has finally realized his little temper tantrum hurt no one but him.

Posted by: jjhare | July 29, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

brown

"I think he (Kemo) and Carriker are two underrated acquisitions that will pay big dividends this season."

Two other interesting new acquisitions are already on the team:

Jeremy Jarmon

Lorenzo Alexander


One comes back from injury, the other, not having a defined role on the team despite being a guy with a lot of desire and versitility.

One great thing about the new coaching is that it'll play a lot deeper into the roster--and hopefully, we'll find that we have more unpolished gems than we think.


Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, Moe. I've always looked at Lo Alexander as a 50th man on the roster... nothing more than a jack of all trades and a master of none. But now that he's trimmed down and is playing LB, I hope he picks it up to the point that we can count on him to be our own version of Adalius Thomas (the Ravens version...not the Pats flameout version). That would be a HUGE coup for a team light on LB depth...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Another juicy nugget:

"Haynesworth has accepted that he will be with the Redskins this season unless another team overwhelms the team with a trade offer,..."

Trading now--unless it brings a certain in his prime wide receiver from the chargers--would be foolish.

Let's hope for a great year from Prince Al, and move him next Spring in an effort to secure more picks in rounds 1-3.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Going back to the last post, doesn't anybody wonder why a football player is as solid as glass jaw joe on Mike Tyson's Knockout? Dated Nintendo ref. thank you very much.

Posted by: Burrasta1 | July 29, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

^^^Punch-Out!
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 29, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse


Let's hope for a great year from Prince Al, and move him next Spring in an effort to secure more picks in rounds 1-3.

Not a bad idea, now that we've progressed this far along. I like the picks for Haynesworth deal, but what if he has an MVP type year? It'd be a great problem to have. At any rate, please keep our draft picks, please.

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Camp Storylines: No. 1 Albert Haynesworth

The obvious meets the self-evident and asks if reporting about the same thing over and over and over again makes for interesting reading.
Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

See, the weird thing is that not everyone has RI in their RSS feed like we do. Some people just wander in once training camp gets started and don't realize that it's AH time, all the time. Deadline? Be Wise and slap in a, "we've all got to be friends now" column.

Wackos!

Posted by: WorstSeat | July 29, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Hey Hey Hey...talk bout' Albert everyday.

Posted by: MajorFacemask | July 29, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Moe, the only way I'm in favor of keeping Fat Albert is if he's going to sell out to the Shanahan Way and his teammates are satisfied with his commitment level. That's the only way he'll have a shot at getting anywhere near the level of play he had in '08 and getting the trade that everyone seems to want. I'm more concerned about the effect on the locker room than what we get for him in a trade.

But you're right...I think we'll hold out for something netting the likes of VJ or Richard Seymour/Nnamdi Asomugha...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

might sit out practice Thursday
experienced tightness in his hamstring

means cut the guy?? Seriously??

brown, seymour is 31, if thats all the redskins get in return for AH, then we'd have gotten FLEECED by a large margin...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 29, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

hessone

"I like the picks for Haynesworth deal, but what if he has an MVP type year? It'd be a great problem to have."

I'm moving him even if he has an MVP type season.

Shanallen came in and released a lot of older players only to replace them with older players.

And from somewhere, quality youth has to be found to replace them.

So, the forward thinking Madden GM remembers the Herschel Walker trade from back in the day, and hopes AH pays dividends in multiple picks next Spring.

Trust me, I'm hoping Prince Al has an MVP type season, too--but for different reasons than most.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse


brown, I've been thinking about your comment, "root for the uniform". No can do. Think about it, with the likes of Monk, Green, M Coleman, The Hogs, Rypien, Riggo, Charlie Taylor, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer. Without a name and character to boot, it's meaningless too me. I understand your position, hope you understand mine. What this town needs are Redskin players that have class on and off the field. Just sayin'

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

What this town needs are Redskin players that have class on and off the field. Just sayin'

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:25 AM

BS. What this town needs is a consistent winner.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 29, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Greg, I don't think anyone is saying "cut MK because his hammy is tight", but as you recall there's more than a couple people who think he's getting cut anyway. Missing even a snap hurts his chances of proving us wrong.

And Seymour may be 31, but AH is what, 29? Not much difference, IMO. I'd call it an even trade since AH clearly wants to stay a 4-3 DT and Seymour has played RDE in a 3-4 brilliantly. It's moot anyway because Al Davis has a full blown man crush on Seymour.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse


MistaMoe

The more draft picks, the younger we get, the more training and learning the systems together, the more team bonding, I'm on board!! Just keep those draft picks and who knows, we might get the wide receiver thing right for the first time since Charlie Brown and Art Monk.
Girlfriend asks if hess has taken out the trash, wakes hess up from his wideout dream!!! Damn!!!

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

BS. What this town needs is a consistent winner

BINGO...Riggins urinating on himself while in a drunken stupor was classy?? Really hess??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 29, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

"Riggins urinating on himself while in a drunken stupor was classy?"


From what I remember, he was wearing a tuxedo when he peed on himself.

So perhaps it was a classy move.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

for those who hate Lebrom, go to deadspin and read the article that ESPN took down...its a laugh riot....if you thought that he was a doosh before, well this cements it.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse


BS. What this town needs is a consistent winner.

Posted by: beep-beep

Typical response. Try thinking about past teams that won consistently. Of course you'll have knuckleheads with big ego's, but as a whole, it can't hurt to have dedicated players on the roster that have class and aren't poison in the locker room.

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

moe, it was the back of a room in which they were watching film, he was laying on the ground, and had to go.....

the tuxedo was the Sandra Day incident I believe....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 29, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

What this town needs are Redskin players that have class on and off the field. Just sayin'

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:25 AM


I hate to shake you into reality dude, but this ain't the 1980s. Art Monk and Darrell Green don't grow on trees. The guys you see wearing NFL uniforms now aren't just athletes anymore...they are multi-million dollar entertainers with egos as big as their bank accounts. Guys aren't just playing football because they love it and can't bear to do anything else...they do it because it'll make 'em financially secure for the rest of their natural lives. So while they won't necessarily be as bad as AH, they won't be nearly as good as the guys you rooted for during Gibbs 1.0.

So you (and other older fans) have a decision to make. Bite the bullet and cheer for the burgundy ang gold anyway or move on to something else. Just don't think that there is any team anywhere that has it the same way they did in the 80s because they don't. Just ask the NBA...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

What this town needs are Redskin players that have class on and off the field. Just sayin'

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:25 AM

Compared to the NFL as a whole, the Skins don't have a bunch of knuckleheads.

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

hess, try focusing on the likes of McNabb, Fletcher, and Carter instead of AH, Rogers, and Landry. I guarantee you we have more character guys on the team than turds.

I mean, geez...even the glory years had a few guys you probably wouldn't like now. Riggins, Manley...heard of 'em? I doubt they get the level of love they do without winning SBs...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Typical response.

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:38 AM

Drop it hessone. You already lost. Anyone who can write the words "Riggo" and "classy" in the same post has Alzheimers. Go take the trash out like your girlfriend said.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 29, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

"...it was the back of a room in which they were watching film, he was laying on the ground, and had to go..."


So he peed on himself while watching film?

Then it wasn't a classy move.

Perhaps he was so dedicated to his job that he ignored his usual bodily functions.

It's kinda like fartin' while you're having sex, but choose not to stop because it feels so good.

The sex, I mean.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

hess, try focusing on the likes of McNabb, Fletcher, and Carter instead of AH, Rogers, and Landry. I guarantee you we have more character guys on the team than turds.

I mean, geez...even the glory years had a few guys you probably wouldn't like now. Riggins, Manley...heard of 'em? I doubt they get the level of love they do without winning SBs...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse
___________

The lack of 24/7 press coverage in the 1980s prevented alot of things from being aired. If some of the characters on those 1980s Gibbs teams played today, I have a feeling that there were be quite of few negative stories that never came out back in the day.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | July 29, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:33 AM

Hess is gettin' upset (said hess to hess regarding hess)!

Posted by: stevek20147 | July 29, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

MK beeps...

Posted by: stevek20147 | July 29, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

The lack of 24/7 press coverage in the 1980s prevented alot of things from being aired. If some of the characters on those 1980s Gibbs teams played today, I have a feeling that there were be quite of few negative stories that never came out back in the day.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | July 29, 2010 8:52 AM


Excellent point. Fewer cameras, fewer mediums to disseminate information, not to mention the NFL wasn't the king of all professional sports like it is today. Those Gibbs teams probably did have a couple guys that didn't have their dirty laundry aired because nobody was around to look for it during the dog days of summer...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


@ brownwood26

DUDE, are you suggesting we take players names and numbers off the uniforms ? Are you saying that the players all do charity work because they have to ? Give me a break. If you want to be numb and have no connection to the players on your favorite team, knock yourself out. I don't think D Green helps train J Tryon because he wants to help him receive a bigger contract. Sure it's all about winning, but winning with class doesn't hurt. I remember how everyone was commenting on the older players visiting Redskin Park, and what a great idea it was to have some of their character rub off on the younger players. What do you say about that now? Which ever way the wind blows. Give me players with class that aren't self centered, and you can have the likes of AH and his brotherhood of players like TO .......

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse


hess, try focusing on the likes of McNabb, Fletcher, and Carter instead of AH, Rogers, and Landry.

Good point, and I certainly will. And I agree about the media coverage nowadays.

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a beast and will be dominant if he comes to play. if he makes plays the fans will luv him once again.

However, even if he is actually 330lbs this year versus the listed 330lbs, he will still be a big boy being doubled and triple teamed that gets fatigued quickly.

Posted by: oknow1 | July 29, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

ENOUGH ABOUT FAT ALBERT! HE IS HERE,AND WILL BE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE PLAYERS IN CAMP.

HOW ABOUT REPORTING ON SOME OF THE OTHER PLAYERS. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE GUY WHO ACTED LIKE A DONKEY`S TUSH..WRITERS DON`T NEED TO INUNDATE US WITH THE SAME DRIVEL DAY AFTER DAY.

WP SPORTS WRITERS WHO COVER THE SKINS...NEED TO ACTUALLY DO SOME DIGGING AND COME UP WITH NEW AND INTERESTING INFORMATION.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | July 29, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

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