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Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 12/ 9/2010

Could Albert Haynesworth overturn his suspension?

By Jason Reid

The Redskins do not expect to immediately fill the opening on their 53-man roster created by the suspension of disgruntled defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth.

The team apparently plans to keep the spot open unless a need arises or a player of interest unexpectedly becomes available.

Meanwhile, the NFL Players Association is moving forward with plans to support Haynesworth, a two-time all-pro, in the appeals process.

Haynesworth's camp is expected to seek an expedited appeal, which would be heard within seven days after a request is filed. Under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, suspended players have the right to an expedited appeal, according to two people familiar with the CBA's language on this subject.

Although the CBA provides teams with latitude to suspend players for a maximum of four games, there's no guarantee Haynesworth's suspension won't be overturned in arbitration.

The Redskins did not reveal their full list of grievances against Haynesworth, but it could be difficult for them to prove some claims. One of those, for example, was Coach Mike Shanahan's statement that Haynesworth "consistently indicated to our defensive coaches that he refuses to play in our base defense."

Haynesworth, however, prepared to line up at nose tackle in the "Okie," or base 3-4 alignment, before the embarrassing Week 13 loss to the New York Giants, according to two people familiar with the coaching staff's intentions. The result of the appeal may hinge on whether the Redskins have recordings of Haynesworth's refusals or have documented them in some other way.

Moreover, Redskins coaches said they decided to play Haynesworth primarily in the nickel packages to most benefit the team. He struggled in the Okie but was effective rushing the passer, so coaches figured playing him in the nickel made the most sense. Haynesworth may contend that the decision on how to deploy him was made by the coaches.

The Redskins, according to Haynesworth's agent, never informed Haynesworth, officially or otherwise, that he was in danger of facing severe disciplinary action this season.

By Jason Reid  | December 9, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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The Redskins, according to Haynesworth's agent, never informed Haynesworth, officially or otherwise, that he was in danger of facing severe disciplinary action this season.

By Jason Reid | December 9, 2010; 6:00 AM ET

And Haynesworth never informed the Redskins that he intended to be a turd this season.

I'm betting that the Redskins have built an air tight case against the guy. He ought to just let it drop rather than having it all come out.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 9, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

Right beep...as if you have to be informed that if you screw up you'll be disciplined. I suppose he also wanted a heads up that if he didn't play well he'd be in danger of being benched...

The sense of entitlement for this d-bag is absolutely unbelievable...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Here's some info for Moe and the other Bucs fans in our midst:

2010 Week 14: What we know about the Buccaneers

1. The offensive line is decimated » Tampa Bay is on its seventh starting offensive line combination after losing center Jeff Faine for the year. The result is a starting guard (Jeremy Zuttah) has been moved to center while two rookie guards play alongside him. Their best lineman, guard Davin Joseph, is among those lost for the season. Derek Hardman, one of three linemen promoted from the practice squad, is now starting at right guard. Left tackle Donald Penn has not played as consistently as he did a year ago.

2. LeGarrette Blount can run the ball » The offense has survived because it has a running back capable of pounding defenses. Blount, whose college career at Oregon ended in controversy, is a bruising runner. He has rushed for 599 yards this season, and all but 30 have come in the last seven weeks. Blount's size (247 pounds) makes him effective, though there are questions about his running style. He hasn't been effective in short-yardage situations and sometimes needs to get lower.

3. The defense is improving vs. the run » Tampa Bay ranks 26th in rushing yards allowed a game and 27th in yards allowed a carry. The defense was hurt by the loss of rookie safety and Oakton High/Virginia Tech alum Cody Grimm to a broken leg. Grimm was good in run support. However, several weeks ago the Bucs were ranked 31st against the run. Nose tackle Roy Miller and defensive tackle Gerald McCoy have started to mesh, and that has made a difference. Losing corner Aqib Talib will hurt what has been a good pass defense.

4. The quarterback doesn't make mistakes » At least that has been the case most of the season, just not recently. In the past two games, second-year quarterback Josh Freeman has completed just 36 of his 75 passes. But for the most part Freeman has done a nice job, having thrown just six interceptions this season. One of his favorite targets? Rookie fourth-round wideout Mike Williams, who has 51 catches for 769 yards and seven touchdowns.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/redskins-confidential/2010/12/2010-week-14-what-we-know-about-buccaneers#ixzz17c1zu42p

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:33 AM | Report abuse

REPOST:

I don't see a plan, actually. I certainly don't see someone willing to go down to the pits and build up from the bottom.

Posted by: TheCork | December 9, 2010 4:17 AM


LOL...this is rich. Of course you don't...they JUST started the process! I'll bet you also try to judge paintings after the first couple brush strokes too. And movies during the opening credits...

What baffles me is why the crowd that wants the team to take a wrecking ball to the whole thing and start over claim they have the patience for that sort of thing and yet they expect immediate results from this team even though it's painfully obvious they're in transition. As if the course charted would make the 2010 season any better. Amazing.

And constantly bringing up "old FAs" are the ramblings of a punch drunk fans...the guys they brought in are low-salary stopgaps designed to fill out the roster. Just because they ended up outplaying some of the young bloods everyone so clamors for, doesn't mean the original plan was to totally lean on those guys.

Did they miss on some of those older stop gaps? Yes. New England made the same mistake on Galloway a year or two ago. So did the Steelers. But those teams haven't been completely mismanaged over the course of a decade or two like the Skins have...mismanagement that Shanahan and Allen had no part of. The Steelers and Pats get the benefit of the doubt and a bit more leeway to scrub themselves of mistakes like that right away...when the Skins swing and miss on a Galloway it looks 100 times worse.

It's a work in progress. Anyone who thought this team was gonna hit the ground running under this new regime were sadly mistaken. Year 1 is what it was supposed to be--a chance to wash our hands of some of the big salary/low impact players we've been stuck with over the years and evaluate what we have left. Just because the answers aren't encouraging doesn't mean there isn't a plan or that the plan in place isn't working.

2010 was the opening credits. We can start evaluating the actual movie in 2011.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 5:38 AM

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

AH stuff from Keim:

Coach Mike Shanahan said he did not consult with owner Dan Snyder about the Haynesworth suspension. But there’s no way Snyder would not have been updated about this sort of move. Maybe Shanahan wasn’t informing him, but it’s likely that Bruce Allen was talking to Snyder. If a move like this were made without Snyder’s knowledge, there would be trouble. And I wouldn’t blame him, either.

6. By the way, Shanahan was – and this is the word of the day – giddy today. Can’t remember seeing him as loose as he was during and after practice. Like a 350-pound weight was lifted off his shoulders.

7. Shanahan said they waited until now because they finally determined it wasn’t going to work. “You keep on working, try to make it work, try to get the best out of somebody, you keep on pushing, guys get in better shape,” Shanahan said. “All a sudden push comes to shove and it keeps on dragging on especially when someone is adamant about a couple situations you say, ‘Hey enough’s enough and you go on.”

8. Of course, the timing is convenient. According to the CBA, a player can’t be suspended by a team without pay for more than four games. And there are four games left in the season.
9. According to one NFL GM who has seen Haynesworth’s contract, if the Redskins had waived him and he went unclaimed, they would be on the hook for his 2011 salary. So that’s another reason they waited until now and simply suspended him.
10. More Shanahan: “When he first came in … he didn’t like the 4-3 defense a year ago, didn’t like the base defense, didn’t like the nickel defense. He didn’t want to play nose tackle or defensive end. We got him playing the nickel package, first and second and third down. He didn’t like first and second down nickel. He wanted to play nickel in passing situations. It was just time to go in another direction. I’ve never been quite through a situation like this before and we did it in the best interest of our team. Now we go on.”
11. This had no chance of working from the start. Haynesworth never wanted to play in a 3-4 and wasn’t going to make it work. He never changed or bought into what Shanahan was doing. In the end, the Redskins wasted a lot of time on trying to get him to buy into this defense. Haynesworth buys into Haynesworth. The players know that too.
12. If they try to trade him in the offseason, as expected, one GM said he thinks the best Washington could do is a fourth-round pick. At this point, I think the Redskins would say one word to that: Sold.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:42 AM | Report abuse

continued...

13. Vonnie Holliday said it was in the game plan this past weekend that Haynesworth would play more in the base defense on first and second down. It’s not as if he hadn’t played in it before; it’s happened a couple times. One player said there were times Haynesworth balked at what coaches wanted him to do during games and that he was not always attentive in meetings. Some games he was engaged; other games he was not. That about sums up his career.

14. Not that the players needed it, but this is a reminder of who’s in charge. However, for all that happened with this, Shanahan did not win by a knockout by any means.

15. The players are relieved that this is over, not because they didn’t like Haynesworth but because they’re tired of the topic. Lorenzo Alexander said he’s been answering questions since March. Trust me, we’re all tired of this topic. Can’t tell you how many extra hours most reporters out here have worked on this topic, from offseason workouts to the conditioning test to even this week.

16. More from Rogers: “Albert probably don’t care. They gave him 41 million, he probably don’t care. I don’t think he’s missing 800 thousand.” True words indeed.

17. And more from Rogers about the defense: “Being 32nd, that’s disappointing and it’s nothing to do with him.”

18. Finally, Lorenzo Alexander was like everyone else: He wondered how good the defense would have been had Haynesworth accepted his role. Because they changed to a 3-4 and have players in spots they probably shouldn’t be, perhaps they would have struggled regardless of Haynesworth’s role. But, “we definitely would have been a more dominant defense. When you have a player out there that’s balling. Albert can play anything he wants to on the D-line when he gets down and does it. But, yeah, we probably would have been better. It would have been great to have him out there doing it. But that wasn’t the fact so we had to deal with what we had.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2010/12/redskins-notes-and-analysis-1#ixzz17c8W5cOI

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Right beep...as if you have to be informed that if you screw up you'll be disciplined.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:31 AM

I think this is a requirement of the labor agreement. It's like you're dealing with kids. "I'm going to count to three and if you haven't finished your milk, Mommy's going to be mad at you." So, if I tell the HR department at work that I refuse to speak to my manager, they have to send me something in writing to warn me that I might not be a good fit for that company.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 9, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Fine. Overturn the suspension so that the coaches can deactivate him for the last 4 games.

He knows he's not playing, but it comes down to whether or not he gets paid for it.

Just pay him and tell him to stay home.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

I don't see a plan, actually. I certainly don't see someone willing to go down to the pits and build up from the bottom.

Posted by: TheCork | December 9, 2010 4:17 AM


LOL...this is rich. Of course you don't...they JUST started the process! I'll bet you also try to judge paintings after the first couple brush strokes too. And movies during the opening credits...

What baffles me is why the crowd that wants the team to take a wrecking ball to the whole thing and start over claim they have the patience for that sort of thing and yet they expect immediate results from this team even though it's painfully obvious they're in transition. As if the course charted would make the 2010 season any better. Amazing.

And constantly bringing up "old FAs" are the ramblings of a punch drunk fans...the guys they brought in are low-salary stopgaps designed to fill out the roster. Just because they ended up outplaying some of the young bloods everyone so clamors for, doesn't mean the original plan was to totally lean on those guys.

Did they miss on some of those older stop gaps? Yes. New England made the same mistake on Galloway a year or two ago

POSTED BY: Brownwood

Let's start with you defending the Redskins by noting that NE "made the same mistake on Galloway" a year or two back.

So you're saying the Redskins thinking they're smarter than NE is an indication they know what they are doing?

I will repeat my point. If you are bringing in StopGaps, why give up a 2nd round pick and another one for Donovan McNabb? McNabb is a "Win now" acquisition.

So whatever Shan/Allen are doing does not--at the very least--show clarity of purpose. If they are biding their time waiting to draft their way back to the big time--you don't give up such a high pick for a 2-3 year QB rental.

If you want to win now, you makes sure the other people brought in to join McNabb can play a little.

Neither scenario has worked.

If the process is just starting, as you argue, how is it going?

The defense is much worse. The offense is no better.

The team managed to both pay the $21 mil bonus for, and lose Haynesworth and now they dump him well below what they could have gotten. Meanwhile, he's been a hyear long distraction.

I think the McNabb benching fiasco has had more negative effect than it appears. Sure if COULD be a coincidence that the team started embarrassing itself and stopped hitting right after the incident.

But my biggest argument? The man who has failed as an owner for a decade is the man who decided Allen, Shanahan & McNabb were the answer.


Posted by: TheCork | December 9, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Could Albert Haynesworth overturn his suspension?

Could you possibly write about something else?

There's a game Sunday, last time I checked.

There are 53 men on the redskin roster, and the ones who willd dress this weekend are of my concern, not a suspended part time player.

You might want to educate fans about the post-Bruce Allen Buccaneers.

How have teams like the bucs/chiefs/jets rebuilt-re-tooled themselves in a way that Shanny might consider?

You might even want to discuss with Bruce Allen what's going on with the various pieces added to the Redskin team this season.

How's MK's hamstring?: should he have been IR'd?

Just askin'.

You could wonder if releasing a guy like Cornelius Griffin was a good idea considering the issues we now see with the defensive line. He was a steady, reliable player d-tackle.

And thinking of defensive linemen, what's an honest assessment of the play of Kemoteau, Carriker, and Golston?

What about comparing what we've seen so far from Davis, Williams, and Torain?

Yeah, I know mistamayor, you been pulling on that Haynesworth teat for so long, you don't know any other way to live as a sports journalist.

Here's some advice: stop with the daily Haynesworth breast-feeding.

You'll come to find you can live without him.

The redskins will, trust me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Gotta laugh to keep from cryin'...a funny take on the AH situation from Patrick Hruby:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=5898387

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Cork, you can believe what you want but I'm saying you can't say the Allen/Shanahan regime is a fail just because Year 1 is ugly. You know Belichick's record in Year 1 when he took over in NE? 5-11. And we all know what an epic fail his tenure in Cleveland was. Nobody had any idea he was going to foster an era of dominance in NE, especially after the first year was a flop.

I'm not saying Shanahan will have a similar turnaround. There's a reason no coach as been able to win a SB in more than one stop (plus there's probably not a Tom Brady waiting for us in Round 6 of the 2011 draft). But if all you've got is "the stopgaps suck", then you're missing the boat. After all, if stopgaps were pieces to build around, they wouldn't be stopgaps.

As for McNabb, he's 34...not 44. It's not unreasonable to think he could play effectively for another 3-5 years. Elway was 37 and 38 when Denver won SBs. Right or wrong, I'm sure that played into Shanahan's thinking when he acquired a guy he thought would fit his system well.

Skins fans have every right to be punch drunk...all I'm sayin' is Vinny's no longer in the building. It's a clean slate for Shanahan and Allen as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Amen Moe...I give it 2 to 1 odds that Reid pulls a Kevin Frazier and leaves sports altogether to chase famous people for Entertainment Tonight...dude sure loves his drama...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

theCork

The man who has failed as an owner for a decade is the man who decided Allen, Shanahan & McNabb were the answer.


I agree about Snyder, but I'm willing to wait before condemning Shanahan/Allen.

They are dealing with a roster that is flawed, and I'll admit that some of their responses to it have been lacking to date.

However, the upcoming offseason is extremely important.

I'm of a mind that they'll evaluate who can/cannot play the schemes forced on the roster this Fall and build from there.

Let's see what happens from next February to June in 2011.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I will repeat my point. If you are bringing in StopGaps, why give up a 2nd round pick and another one for Donovan McNabb? McNabb is a "Win now" acquisition.

So whatever Shan/Allen are doing does not--at the very least--show clarity of purpose. If they are biding their time waiting to draft their way back to the big time--you don't give up such a high pick for a 2-3 year QB rental.

If you want to win now, you makes sure the other people brought in to join McNabb can play a little.

Neither scenario has worked.

If the process is just starting, as you argue, how is it going?

The defense is much worse. The offense is no better.

The team managed to both pay the $21 mil bonus for, and lose Haynesworth and now they dump him well below what they could have gotten. Meanwhile, he's been a hyear long distraction.

I think the McNabb benching fiasco has had more negative effect than it appears. Sure if COULD be a coincidence that the team started embarrassing itself and stopped hitting right after the incident.

But my biggest argument? The man who has failed as an owner for a decade is the man who decided Allen, Shanahan & McNabb were the answer.


Posted by: TheCork | December 9, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse


I actually agree with you about McNabb: that was the one move that didn't demonstrate an attempt to start over. I think they felt McNabb might be able to play at a high level as long as Elway did, because he keeps himself in pretty good shape and protects himself when he runs. But I'm not a mind reader, so who knows.

I also believe that this team still suffers from a lack of depth. As the season wore on, the nagging injuries (and the obvious ones) started to take their toll. Teams can't finish strong without quality depth or remaining injury-free. The Redskins have had neither break their way.

As for the decision-making? Fine, Cork. Since Snyder's an idiot (and I don't dispute that his football decisions have been terrible), let's all give up hope that this team will ever turn a corner as long as he is the owner making the decisions.

You're not the only person who feels this way. The thing is, why do you bother? What's the point in even casually following the team if you don't have hope that this owner might be able to turn things around - even by accident?

Tom Benson was a terrible owner for decades. Not just for 10 years: for decades. So was Bidwell. Both have shown signs of improvement over the last 5 years.

All we can hope is that Snyder eventually starts taking sound advice and eventually figures it out. Because he isn't selling this team. He is young and he makes too much money off it.

If you're going to assume that every decisions Snyder has made and ever will make is the wrong one, then you must be more of a masochist than most of the rest of us. Because without hope of a turnaround, we've got nothing.

Posted by: jcabana | December 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Here's some advice: stop with the daily Haynesworth breast-feeding.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 7:26 AM

Moe--Reid's gonna change the name of this blog to Haynesworth Insider. You gotta realize that Reid has been getting "a lot of e/m traffic" asking him about Haynesworth, and zero e/m traffic asking about Sunday's game. Simple reason for that. No one cares anymore what Reid says about actual games. Sally Jenkins and Tracee Hamilton are more relevant than Reid. We should be getting a stat geek post soon, though, to talk about how many WPA's Washington lost when they insulted Haynesworth.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 9, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Judge SHOULD schedule an "expedited" suspension appeal hearing to take place immediately AFTER the conclusion of the following legal proceedings.

- Albert's child support hearing for the result of his Superbowl week dalliance with the strippa baby mama

- Albert's child support hearing for his other children through marriage to his ex-wide

- Albert's personal injury case with the guy he nearly killed while going like a bat out of hell on a snowy road a couple of winters ago

- Albert's hearing on the alleged property investment fraud case

- Albert's breach of contract case for skipping mandatory off-season training meetings –- and failing to fulfill other terms and conditions of his contract.

So long as he’s demanding immediate justice, let’s go for it and get it all done.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 9, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Reid's gonna change the name of this blog to Haynesworth Insider.

Sad but true.

And I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll say it: I miss the whiny, high-end rabbling rousing analysis threads Jason La Canfora used to post.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

You're not the only person who feels this way. The thing is, why do you bother? What's the point in even casually following the team if you don't have hope that this owner might be able to turn things around - even by accident?

Tom Benson was a terrible owner for decades. Not just for 10 years: for decades. So was Bidwell. Both have shown signs of improvement over the last 5 years.

All we can hope is that Snyder eventually starts taking sound advice and eventually figures it out. Because he isn't selling this team. He is young and he makes too much money off it.

If you're going to assume that every decisions Snyder has made and ever will make is the wrong one, then you must be more of a masochist than most of the rest of us. Because without hope of a turnaround, we've got nothing.


Posted by: jcabana | December 9, 2010 7:54 AM


Bravo, jcabana. Bravo. Very well said.

The Benson example is an appropriate one...because I see the Redskins trying to build this team the way the Saints did leading up to their SB run. They had sketchy ownership and mediocre-to-average GM, yet they won a SB because they got a fine HC and a top flight QB. The jury's still out on whether the Skins did the same, but they certainly got guys with a proven track record for success.

There's no right or wrong way to build a team. You can win doing it the Saints way or you could take wrecking ball to it and start from scratch like Tampa just did. Either way, it's not coming together in one year...it's gonna take 3 or 4.

The thought here (at least for me) is that Snyder isn't tanking the team on purpose like the Bidwills in AZ or the Browns in Cincy. Those guys are looking to save a buck and don't care if it affects the product on the field. Snyder just doesn't know what he doesn't know. Stands to reason one day he will. Hopefully, that day has arrived now that's got actual football people in place.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

how's everyone doing this morning?? Sun is out, sure its cold, but the cold makes you feel ALIVE....coffee was good, car started right up...heat came on...kids weren't complaining about school, and the Christmas tree looks great....hope you guys are having a good day.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The sense of entitlement for this d-bag is absolutely unbelievable...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 6:31 AM | Report abuse

But he's the greatest ALL TIME, isn't he??? In fact, I think he deserves a little more than the $30 mil. or so per year that he's gotten for playing about 2 half seasons with us, that's a FULL year you know!!! He's the greatest at his position, just like some of these other greats at their positions:

President: Obama

Redskins Analyst: Lavar Arrington

Loving Wife: Lorana Bobbit

Caring Physician: Jack Kavorkian

First Pitch: Gary 'Ba Ba Booey' Delabate

NFL Owner: Jerry Jones

Ok, I'm done, I almost threw-up in my mouth after the last one, you get the idea!

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

monk811


LOL!!!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

And I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll say it: I miss the whiny, high-end rabbling rousing analysis threads Jason La Canfora used to post.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:09 AM


For me it's 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other...while we have to live with JReid's man crush on AH, we also haven't heard the name Leigh Torrance in about a year or so. You've got one guy harping on one guy on the active roster, the other guy harping on guys who left town ages ago. To me, Reid sucking doesn't make JLC any better...though I could see you feeling that way since the current offensive display in Washington has come to make me miss the Norv Era a little...

Either way, I'd rather see Steinberg get a shot at running this. Get an actual blogger to run a blog. What a novel concept...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

I didn't care for AH from the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during his first pre-season game with the Redskins...he was full of attitude then and it only got worse from there...what a focking peas a chit

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I didn't care for AH from the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during his first pre-season game with the Redskins...he was full of attitude then and it only got worse from there...what a focking peas a chit

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

I didn't care for AH from the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during his first pre-season game with the Redskins...he was full of attitude then and it only got worse from there...what a focking peas a chit

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

I didn't care for AH from the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during his first pre-season game with the Redskins...he was full of attitude then and it only got worse from there...what a focking peas a chit

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Boy, sure looks like Greg got laid last night...either that or he's on meds now, LOL...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather see Steinberg get a shot at running this. Get an actual blogger to run a blog. What a novel concept...


I'm not familar with Mr. Steinberg as the Op-Ed page is the only other section of the paper I view online.

The sportwriting in this paper is reactionary and rarely thought provoking.

I will review Mr. Stienberg's Blog, though, to get better educated.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

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Going into the Christmas season, the Washington Post is teaming with the Washington Redskins to sponsor a new "Where's Albert?" holiday competition for Post readers.

According to the rules of the game, readers will be invited to study various crowd shot photos taken at the different whoring capitals of the world -- including Amsterdam, Bangkok, Budapest, Rio, Las Vegas, Nashville and Reston -- to find and identify where the big guy is hiding.

Clue: Look for the pink toes.

Winners of the competition will get two free tickets to the Redskins’ final home game of the season on January 2 against the New York Giants, while the losers get four.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 9, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Geez, scott...try posting one more time dude...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

brown, ha, its the hot stove season in baseball, and the local 9 signed Carl Crawford, so I'm a happy cat this morning....now if only the Skins could turn it around...my teams would compete in all fields, Sox, Skins, Celts....sigh...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

You know Belichick's record in Year 1 when he took over in NE? 5-11. And we all know what an epic fail his tenure in Cleveland was. Nobody had any idea he was going to foster an era of dominance in NE, especially after the first year was a flop.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Two words: Tom Brady!

Belichick is a good schemer and a great football mind, but there's no way NE wins 3 SB's and goes to another one without the 'Gisele Eater'! Maybe he takes them to one, who knows, but Bill should get on his knees right next to Gisele and thank Tom, cause Bill rode his jock all the way to the bank!!!

That being said, I think all of us can agree McNabb is no Tom Brady. But he has proven that with even a little bit of talent he can succeed. This is probably the worst defense he's been around, and the worst offensive line he's been around. So people can't judge Shanahan/Allen/McNabb until more is done in FA and Draft over the next 1-2 years, then see how it translates on the field!

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

^21^

LOL. YOU'LL NEVER GET THE MONEY BACK!!!!!!

I love the discipline, but your EGO sucks. You LOST and Albert WON.

You ruined my whole season Coach Sham-ahan. We could have done something sneaky this year if you would have just played the guy.

Now i understand fully what you meant when you stated in the off season YOU HAD A PLAN if Albert took the money. You were laughing into the camera like you were such a MAD GENIUS. Give me a freakin break.

Great plan GENIUS...ruin our season chasing lost money.

Posted by: COLUMBIASKINS | December 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

how's everyone doing this morning?? Sun is out, sure its cold, but the cold makes you feel ALIVE....coffee was good, car started right up...heat came on...kids weren't complaining about school, and the Christmas tree looks great....hope you guys are having a good day.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Did you Wake N Bake this morning Greg? I'll take a toke!!!

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

bean

how's everyone doing this morning??

It's a rainy, cold day here in Palm Beach County, Florida.

That means the high will be 70 and the low 60.

People are walking about in gloves, boots, snow hats, and sweaters.

(I'm not kidding, btw.)

Floridians just don't know what cold is.

Cold to us is when there's too much ice in a glass of lemonade.

Snow is what we buy in the alley ways of poor neighborhoods.

Ice in bracelet form is what we give our strippa girlfirends in hotels over lookijng the ocean.

Slush is something immigrant corner stores sell in cherry and cola flavor.

We put Christmas lights up around palm trees.

Santa Claus arrives in Florida to tan before heading up North to freeze.

Beyond the weather, though, things are fine and dandy.

My only problem?: No matter where I look, I can't find enough snow.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

beantown

Power Shift: Red Sox Sign Crawford


Gonzo and Crawford in the same week explain the fine and dandy attitude you have this morning.

And if the yanks don't sign C Lee by the weekend, you'll be happier than a sissy with a bag of dicks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 9, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

monk, I get what you're saying but if having a HoF QB takes a coach out of the credits for taking a team to the SB, then there aren't very many good championship-winning coaches. I mean, Lombardi had a HoFer at damn near every position and everyone still has him as the greatest coach of all-time. Jimmy Johnson had Marino and couldn't win one. Brian Billick had Trent Dilfer and did win. That tells me it takes a helluva lot more than just a QB win a title.

Belichick's teams are winning off Brady alone NOW...but early on when they were actually winning SBs, they were more of a defensive team that focused on the running game. Look at Brady's numbers those years...not exactly "Greatest Show on Turf" stuff.

There's more than one way to build a team and more than one way to win a title. Let's just hope the current direction is the right one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I didn't care for AH from the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during his first pre-season game with the Redskins...he was full of attitude then and it only got worse from there...what a focking peas a chit

R ya happy Brown?

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse


greg, top of the morning to you too.

it's cold here, but the wind should calm down today and make for a nice day. one of my best friends from florida lost his wife last week and the services will be here in virginia. he's staying with me thru the weekend and arrived last night. needless to say moe he's "freezing his ass off" everytime he goes in and out of the house.

everyone make the best of your days, and I hope that today is one of your best ones

Posted by: hessone | December 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

ha moe, not sure I can agree with your description, but yeah, I'm a happy guy this morning....

On to TB...seemed like on the NFL Replay of their game the other night, the Bucs line was giving up good pressure, however Freeman seems pretty adept at getting out of the pocket...gonna have to pressure him into making mistakes....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

First Pitch: Gary 'Ba Ba Booey' Delabate

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 8:22 AM

Shocked Howard re-signed for 5 more years...had a note on my calender to cancel my Sirius subscription today!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Really tho...who would've known after a year and a half that Vick would be a better addition to a team than Haynesworth. And Vick was signed for about ohhh.....about 30 mil less over the 2 years he's been there than we are paying AH. Therein lies the reason we are where we are and philly is where they are....we bat like .190 and they bat .300. What FA do we ever get thats worth the money besides London Fletcher??

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Really tho...who would've known after a year and a half that Vick would be a better addition to a team than Haynesworth. And Vick was signed for about ohhh.....about 30 mil less over the 2 years he's been there than we are paying AH. Therein lies the reason we are where we are and philly is where they are....we bat like .190 and they bat .300. What FA do we ever get thats worth the money besides London Fletcher??

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Yes scott...much better. Everyone knows you get you point across much better when you post in 5s rather than 4s...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Really tho...who would've known after a year and a half that Vick would be a better addition to a team than Haynesworth. And Vick was signed for about ohhh.....about 30 mil less over the 2 years he's been there than we are paying AH. Therein lies the reason we are where we are and philly is where they are....we bat like .190 and they bat .300. What FA do we ever get thats worth the money besides London Fletcher??

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Really tho...who would've known after a year and a half that Vick would be a better addition to a team than Haynesworth. And Vick was signed for about ohhh.....about 30 mil less over the 2 years he's been there than we are paying AH. Therein lies the reason we are where we are and philly is where they are....we bat like .190 and they bat .300. What FA do we ever get thats worth the money besides London Fletcher??

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse


doing good greg, thanks for asking and I hope everyones day is splendid and full of happiness

Posted by: hessone | December 9, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I'd also like to see the team get moss more involved this week, he was MIA last week in that disaster....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Really tho...who would've known after a year and a half that Vick would be a better addition to a team than Haynesworth?

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 8:59 AM


Me.

Not because of knowing what Vick would become---even Philly didn't know he'd be this good. But because AH has such a long track record of being a turd that anyone signing him to big money would do so at their own risk.

As much as I thought he'd be Stubblefield 2.0, I didn't think he'd be exponentially WORSE than Stubblefield. I didn't think it would end well, but I never in a million years thought it would end THIS badly...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

""but it could be difficult for them to prove some claims. One of those, for example, was Coach Mike Shanahan's statement that Haynesworth "consistently indicated to our defensive coaches that he refuses to play in our base defense. The result of the appeal may hinge on whether the Redskins have recordings of Haynesworth's refusals or have documented them in some other way.""


Really shouldn't be that difficult.

Just take statements from the coaches themselves.

Posted by: p1funk | December 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm eating crow these days. I have supported Albert in the past. I was always under the belief that if they could get Albert motivated it would be worth the trouble.

Unfortunately they couldn't get him motivated so it wasn't worth the trouble.

F Albert.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 9, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

There's more than one way to build a team and more than one way to win a title. Let's just hope the current direction is the right one...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

That's very true, most people say build in the draft, which is good about 90% of the time, but then the Saints come along with their team of mostly Free Agents, and we have a little hope.

I just think this franchise needs some wins under their belt to get some momentum going. I don't believe in curses or bad luck, when it's our time then it's our time, I just hope I'm alive to see them win a SB or two.

As far as Belichick goes, I'm kinda torn. I believe he's a cheat, but I also believe he is a genius. Maybe his defense did contribute more in the beginning of the SB runs, but even though Brady had crappy stats during that time there was always 1 constant: He always came through in the clutch!

Lombardi is the best coach of all time cause he was the best motivator of all time, he had the total trust and respect of all his players, plus he had the good fortune of winning the first 2 SB's. Can you imagine if the Chiefs won that first SB, we might be calling it the Stram Trophy.

Brady is a better overall QB than Marino or Elway IMO. Marino was good in the clutch, but only in the regular season. Elway was also, and both could carry a team to an extent, but Brady is one of those special players, like Montana or Unitis, that could shoulder a team and lead them on their own.

Here's another debate: Does the Patriot Dynasty ever get off the ground if the 'Tuck Rule' never happens???

Maybe 'luck' does play into it!

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 9, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Cork, you can believe what you want but I'm saying you can't say the Allen/Shanahan regime is a fail just because Year 1 is ugly. You know Belichick's record in Year 1 when he took over in NE? 5-11. And we all know what an epic fail his tenure in Cleveland was. Nobody had any idea he was going to foster an era of dominance in NE, especially after the first year was a flop.

I'm not saying Shanahan will have a similar turnaround. There's a reason no coach as been able to win a SB in more than one stop (plus there's probably not a Tom Brady waiting for us in Round 6 of the 2011 draft). It's a clean slate for Shanahan and Allen as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 9, 2010 7:43 AM
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Monk's right... Belichick needs to send a "thank you" card with cash..(see NJ court records) to Tom's Mother, everyday, for conceiving the young boy.
Without Tom Brady, Belichick is the head coach he was in Cleveland with Kosar..A W-L record of 37-45. Brady is so good now, BB doesnt even need the assistance of his esteemed videographers...like that one that used to be in Denver.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | December 9, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Brown....posting 4 times in a row wasn't intentional...on a good note - i guess the point was made huh?

Posted by: scottmando | December 9, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

First Pitch: Gary 'Ba Ba Booey' Delabate

Posted by: monk811 | December 9, 2010 8:22 AM

Shocked Howard re-signed for 5 more years...had a note on my calender to cancel my Sirius subscription today!

Posted by: PlayAction | December 9, 2010 8:57 AM

The Wonder Twins are Howard Stern fans. It all makes sense now.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 9, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Skins carrying a vacant roster spot? Why not, I don't know, give Cook/Capers some run in an actual game? Snyder didn't buy any free agents during an uncapped year. Now he's carrying less than a full roster. Is he having financial problems?

Posted by: coparker5 | December 9, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Those of you who are dissing AH and have jobs (both of you!) in your job, if you have a contract, of course you'd expect to be notified before giving the maximum punishment available under your contract! So would AH. The Redskins are going down on this, which explains why they are not filling that 53rd slot, they don't want to be fined for playing a 54th player after issuing a bad suspension to one of the first 53.

I expect though, that it will be settled in Goodell's office, AH gets paid and made a free agent effective at the end of the season (to do it now would be too much drama). Any team that signs him for 2011 has to give the Redskins their 7th round draft pick in 2017.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 9, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I recognize that each writer has his/her own strengths, weaknesses, preferences and directions from editors. But I also miss the analytical approach taken by JLC - whether you agreed with the content or not, it was distinct from the beat writing and reporting.

Posted by: i155133 | December 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Shanny and the Redskins have been slowly building a case against AH since last spring. His agent can play the word games all that he wants, but AH's rep and actions speak volumes.

AH - "Son...fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life."

Posted by: jdumb | December 9, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

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