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Signs of a thaw between Haynesworth, Shanahan

One week ago, Albert Haynesworth didn't try to hide displeasure with Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan, and it appeared the bad feelings between the two had escalated to unmanageable levels. But following the Jets' game, Haynesworth was able to crack jokes about his relationship with the head coach and said he's on the same page as his
bosses and their 3-4 defense.

"I'm going over to dinner at his house, probably tonight," Haynesworth said. "Gonna sit and have a cigar and talk."

That's probably a healthy overstatement, but Haynesworth did seem to be in good spirits after Friday's win, a game in which he saw plenty of action at right defensive end, played an entire series with the first-string defense and appeared with the starters in the
team's nickel packages.

"That's what they wanted me to do this week, so we practiced a lot at end to get a feel for it and everything," Haynesworth said. "I've still got a lot of work to do. I've got to stop trying to go up field and react to my guy that I'm playing; the offensive tackle or the
guard.

Shanahan would not offer an opinion on Haynesworth's performance, simply noting that he'd hoped to play Haynesworth about 30 plays. Haynesworth entered the game in the first quarter -- the Jets' first offensive possession, in fact -- and didn't leave until the third
quarter was finished. In the final stat sheet, Haynesworth was credited with assisting on one tackle.

"I still had that 4-3 mindset, trying to make plays and things like that," Haynesworth said. "I can definitely improve a whole lot but I didn't play horrible. I did [fine] for playing end the first time in a 3-4."

Haynesworth's relationship with the head coach has dominated the Redskins' training camp and preseason. After Haynesworth launched a couple of verbal grenades in the postgame locker room last week, both the defensive lineman and the head coach tried to defuse the situation.

Shanahan said Monday he had spoken with Haynesworth, but Haynesworth said the two did not have a formal meeting. "We talked a little bit more tonight. I think I saved his life from getting hit in the head with the ball," Haynesworth said.

By Rick Maese  |  August 28, 2010; 12:45 AM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

How long did the Jets defensive starters stay in? I was surprised to see Jason Taylor playing in the fourth quarter (and less surprised to see him chatting Kelli Johnson after the game). I was also surprised at how well our 2s and 3s played against their 1s.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | August 28, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Jets are simply overrated, and over-hyped. Utilization of fear tactics, declaring Superbowl in August only makes Rex Ryan looks stupid, he learned quite well from his Dad with his lousy mouth, he is simply not a competition for the Shanahans. Washington without McNabb and without Albert with the starting defense and all the jets could muster with Sanchez well into the fourth quarter is mere mediocrity. If you didn't notice, the Shanahans even made a joke out of Jets starting defense by starting a third string QB against them and performed well. Good thing the Skins smashed his lousy mouth!

Posted by: abxinc | August 27, 2010 11:12 PM |

I'm not sure how you can make the claim that the #1 ranked defense from last year is overrated. Especially by watching the preseason. Remember folks, it's PRE SEASON. I do agree with Ol Rexy having a giant yap though. He should just shut it. Perfect fit for New York...loud and stupid.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2010 1:08 AM | Report abuse

I am starting to notice a trend. When the redskins win like they did against the jets and bills, fat al has nothing but good things to say such as "i am starting to like the 3-4 defense" after the bills blow out game or " i am going to shanny's house for dinner and a cigar." When they lose, like they did last week against the ravens, he has an angry post game rant. Winning is truly a band aid for all pains in sports.

Posted by: nfcBEaST | August 28, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

"I'm going over to dinner at his house..."

You're gonna need a bigger fridge.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | August 28, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse


I'll see game tomorrow at 11 on NFL net, but from looking at stats one big stat stands out...

TEN redskins caught passes, not ONE of them named devin Thomas. Was he hurt? I saw he didn't run back anything either.

Posted by: TheCork | August 28, 2010 1:33 AM | Report abuse

DT11 was the invisible man for most of the game. I only remember seeing him once. It was on, I think, a punt, but the ball went into the endzone for a touchback anyway.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | August 28, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why MK or DT would make this team. There has been so many more bright spots at WR than these 2. DT will probably get one more year to see what he can do. MK...who knows?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2010 1:47 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan said Monday he had spoken with Haynesworth, but Haynesworth said the two did NOT have a formal meeting.

HUH?

THIS MIGHT BE HOW THEY BECAME CORDIAL OVERNIGHT:

You gotta let Fat Boy know who is boss and simultaneously use psychology 101 on him.

MS: You are a great talent. We know how to work you at the proper pace to prepare you to be at your best for opening day. Once you signed a contract it gave me the right to make all the football decisions that are both in yours and the teams best interest - and I am doing that. You will see after you buy in 100% you would have enjoyed being here with us all since March. We missed having you. Outbursts will never get you cut or traded, but only distract what your teammates are trying to accomplish. You said you wanted to win, right? You said you wanted to be in the HOF, right? So, are you now in 100% so we can all get this thing done?

AH92: I'm in coach, and he walked out the door.

BOTTOM LINE NO MATTER WHAT WAS SAID: SHANAHAN DOESN'T BACK DOWN. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.

Posted by: artsnsportz | August 28, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Wow another Haynesworth post. Huh. Any word regarding CP's sprained ankle?

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | August 28, 2010 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Perfect fit for New York...loud and stupid.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Heheheh...just got done arguing on the phone with some b'tch from NY and was thinking how ridiculous that they shoot off their mouths.

If we could run the ball I would say we dominated considering the circumstances, but alas our Oline still needs time to get up to par.

Our D did fine except they didn't stop the run consistently until late in the game. The skins still got a lot of work to do but they beat a talented team.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 28, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JohnnyRyde

Ride johnny, ride.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 28, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Perfect fit for New York...loud and stupid.

Posted by: scampbell1975

Heheheh...just got done arguing on the phone with some b'tch from NY and was thinking how ridiculous that they shoot off their mouths.
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My wife has worked in customer support for the last 10 years and she says that she dreads hearing that accent on the other end of the line. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions but they just prove the rule.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

Well, slow night up here. I'll watch the replay tomorrow and give my thoughts then...not like anyone really gives a damn.

HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 28, 2010 2:23 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: johnstonjo | August 28, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey, thanks for the link to the cheap tickets, JohnSpamjo!

I don't know about "beating a talented team"

I think people are really overemphasizing the final score... especially when the Redskins win.

1) Grossman is still Grossman. I don't ever want to see him under center again. It's an insult to football.

2) Beck is already better than Grossman. Grossman at #3 is OK. Especially when #2, behind McNabb, is really #1.5.

3) The Jets totally destroyed our D Line. It was embarrassing. If they had wanted to rush for 300 yds in the first half, believe me, they could have. Easily. Embarrassing.

4) HB Blades is terrible. Why is he still here? His feet are planted in cement.

5) Laron Landry looks terrible. Worse than last year. I don't know why he sucks, but he does. Might be early, but I'm calling "Bust" on him. His career is over.

6) Armstrong is all over the place. If he doesn't make the team, there is no God.

7) Fast Willie Parker... Isn't. Put a fork in him. He's done.

8) Torrain... waste of a roster spot. Cut him.

9) Terrence Austin made some nice catches and made a really sweet cut on a WR screen. At the same time, Banks fumbled, so the plot thickens between these two.

10) Graham Gano was good. Needs to stay out of the contact on kickoffs, though. No reason for him to be involved in that stuff. That's an easy way to hurt our chances down the road. Somebody tell him to keep his kickin' ass out of the contact. Idiot.

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 28, 2010 5:18 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth comes across as not the brightest bulb in in the lamp.

Posted by: bobilly2 | August 28, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

So Fat Albert played much of the first three quarters, shows nothing but an assist on a tackle, and his conclusion is that he "didn't play horrible" and that he played "fine"??? This dude is smoking something other than a cigar...

Let's see, half a tackle per game, times 16 games, gives him 8 tackles for 100 million dollars. Them's some pretty expensive tackles...

Posted by: gr8day4bsbll | August 28, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

i want to throw up listening to that barf bag Theisman. he is hands down the worst color commentator in television history. they got smashed in the face and ran for like 8 yds. in the first half and he and that melon head Dick Walker talked about dominating. WTH game were they watching. Sanchez has stunk it up all summer and they act like they beat the 75 Steelers on a Monday night on the road in December. That is why this communist paper and these weasel band wagon, non-football knowing fans make us all ill. It's just any bum in a uniform and the Woodbridge meets S.E. clan goes wild for Richard Bartel.

Posted by: doyouktt | August 28, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth comes across as not the brightest bulb in in the lamp.

Posted by: bobilly2 | August 28, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

What makes you say that? I've had the opposite impression. Might be following his own drummer a bit much, but a pretty quick dude, relatively speaking.

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 28, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I'll see game tomorrow at 11 on NFL net, but from looking at stats one big stat stands out...

TEN redskins caught passes, not ONE of them named devin Thomas. Was he hurt? I saw he didn't run back anything either.

Posted by: TheCork | August 28, 2010 1:33 AM
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Don't believe he was targeted; was back to receive a punt (k.o.?) but there was no return.

Shanahan plays it so close to the vest, it's a real challenge picking which wr's make the final cut (beyond Moss), so I wouldn't be completely shocked if DT doesn't make it w/o showing something more in the last game. Still, if I had to bet, my list goes:

Moss
DT
A. Armstrong
Galloway
B. Banks (technically as a WR, but mostly as a return guy)
R. Williams
T. Austin to Practice Squad w/ a set of novelty glasses and nose so no other team sees him.

Store MK on IR for the season - he gets one more pre-season to show something

Gone are:
Wade
Furrey*
Hodge*

*(if you're one of these guys, are you GLAD you're so obscure you don't even make ppl's 'cut' list, as if they're already ghosts?...wait, mb Hodge IS already gone?)


Posted by: hogmeister | August 28, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I'll see game tomorrow at 11 on NFL net, but from looking at stats one big stat stands out...

TEN redskins caught passes, not ONE of them named devin Thomas. Was he hurt? I saw he didn't run back anything either.

Posted by: TheCork | August 28, 2010 1:33 AM
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Don't believe he was targeted; was back to receive a punt (k.o.?) but there was no return.

Shanahan plays it so close to the vest, it's a real challenge picking which wr's make the final cut (beyond Moss), so I wouldn't be completely shocked if DT doesn't make it w/o showing something more in the last game. Still, if I had to bet, my list goes:

Moss
DT
A. Armstrong
Galloway
B. Banks (technically as a WR, but mostly as a return guy)
R. Williams
T. Austin to Practice Squad w/ a set of novelty glasses and nose so no other team sees him.

Store MK on IR for the season - he gets one more pre-season to show something

Gone are:
Wade
Furrey*
Hodge*

*(if you're one of these guys, are you GLAD you're so obscure you don't even make ppl's 'cut' list, as if they're already ghosts?...wait, mb Hodge IS already gone?)


Posted by: hogmeister | August 28, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand Albert Haynesworth's attitude and work effort BUT he still is an impact player when he wants to be. I just hope he has a change of heart and decides he wants lead by example and have fun JUST PLAYING FOOTBALL!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand Albert Haynesworth's attitude and work effort BUT he still is an impact player when he wants to be. I just hope he has a change of heart and decides he wants lead by example and have fun JUST PLAYING FOOTBALL!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand Albert Haynesworth's attitude and work effort BUT he still is an impact player when he wants to be. I just hope he has a change of heart and decides he wants lead by example and have fun JUST PLAYING FOOTBALL!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand Albert Haynesworth's attitude and work effort BUT he still is an impact player when he wants to be. I just hope he has a change of heart and decides he wants lead by example and have fun JUST PLAYING FOOTBALL!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | August 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

WP writers continue to write paragraphs about Haynesworth, and the coach. You write the exact same stuff, and it allows you to put little effort into keeping Redskin fans informed about the more important events.
Even short bios on each player would be more stimulating than repeating the same garbage about Albert.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | August 28, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

There a number of interesting points that are obvious about the Albert Haynesworth(AH) vs Coach Mike Shanahan(CMS) soap opera. And the upshot of it all is that Coach Shanahan and The Redskin organization did not handle it well.

Point #1
AH has already been paid the hefty portion of his very hefty contract.

Point #2
AH is not fat. He is a big, very strong, very talented, top-quality NFL defensive lineman.

Point #3
AH wants to receive the "Brett Farve Diva Treatment" (BFDT). See Point #2.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #4
The "BFDT" works very well for all concerned parties when the player has the success and popularity of Brett Favre.

Point #5
Being popular has never been on the AH personal hierachy of needs as defined by AH.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #6
If you want/demand the BFDT and you do not have the success of Brett Favre the media dogs will go "pit bull" on you and shred your public image.

Point #7
AH does not care about Point #6.
(See Point #5).
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #8
CMS should not have put AH thru the conditioning test that AH deliberately chose to fail.
(See Points #2 & #5)
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #9
The Redskin organization and CMS should have given AH the BFDT and done it in a fashion that would have minimized stirring up media attention. For example: last spring they could have made statements similar to "We look forward to welcoming AH to full-season training camp in July and we trust him to come to camp in football shape. No worries".

Point #10
Doing Point #9 would have prevented the AH vs CMS conditioning contest that we all got so weary of hearing about.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #11
I beleive that there are a great many Redskin fans that long for the days when Redskin FOOTBALL news is what we read about in the WaPo Sports Section...NOT Redskin SOAP OPERA news.

Point #12
Many thanks to Dan Snyder for shedding Vinny Cerrato, creating the GM postion (finally), filling the GM position with Bruce Allen, and hiring CMS. Redskin fans trust that you have learned not to make the mistake of Point #1 with future Redskin contracts and look forward to seeing you hoist the Vince Lombardi Trophy.
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: harmojo | August 28, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

New stadium not as loud as the meadowlands.I sure hope it is less of a home field advantage! Just like Fed-Ex field is much less of a home field advantage than RFK was! Any thoughts?

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | August 28, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

By his comments Albert see's this defense as a "challenge."

This is a very good thing.

I can't believe I just wrote that.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 28, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Agree with you about RFK being much more of a home field advantage. There was no place louder when the temporary stands started bouncing up and down, and the Schaefer beer was flowing. What a great venue.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | August 28, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

There a number of interesting points that are obvious about the Albert Haynesworth(AH) vs Coach Mike Shanahan(CMS) soap opera. And the upshot of it all is that Coach Shanahan and The Redskin organization did not handle it well.

Point #1
AH has already been paid the hefty portion of his very hefty contract.

Point #2
AH is not fat. He is a big, very strong, very talented, top-quality NFL defensive lineman.

Point #3
AH wants to receive the "Brett Farve Diva Treatment" (BFDT). See Point #2.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #4
The "BFDT" works very well for all concerned parties when the player has the success and popularity of Brett Favre.

Point #5
Being popular has never been on the AH personal hierarchy of needs as defined by AH.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #6
If you want/demand the BFDT and you do not have the success of Brett Favre the media dogs will go "pit bull" on you and shred your public image.

Point #7
AH does not care about Point #6.
(See Point #5).
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #8
CMS should not have put AH thru the conditioning test that AH deliberately chose to fail.
(See Points #2 & #5)
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #9
The Redskin organization and CMS should have given AH the BFDT and done it in a fashion that would have minimized stirring up media attention. For example: last spring they could have made statements similar to "We look forward to welcoming AH to full-season training camp in July and we trust him to come to camp in football shape. No worries".

Point #10
Doing Point #9 would have prevented the AH vs CMS conditioning contest that we all got so weary of hearing about.
(Important Note: AH has already got the money! See Point #1)

Point #11
I believe that there are a great many Redskin fans that long for the days when Redskin FOOTBALL news is what we read about in the WaPo Sports Section...NOT Redskin SOAP OPERA news.

Point #12
Many thanks to Dan Snyder for shedding Vinny Cerrato, for creating the GM position (finally), for filling the GM position with Bruce Allen, and lastly, for hiring CMS. Redskin fans trust that you have learned not to make the mistake of Point #1 with future Redskin contracts and look forward to seeing you hoist the Vince Lombardi Trophy.
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!

Posted by: harmojo | August 28, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Pitchers now throw 100 pitches.The pitcher union decided this was enough for any human being.
Haynesworth made his point,he will take 9 snaps and sit down.He's going to be just like Favre,the idol for the entire NFL Players Association.
If every agent and every player's relative assumes their man is playing tennis,golf, boxing or wrestling,then this might make sense.
I believe as LeBron found out and something Michael Jordan could have told him,you are a member of a team,and a team does not have handlers,cut men,and managers waiting to throw in the towel,or withdraw for potential injury halting the match.
No football,soccer,basketball operate according to the clock.Your body is carried off the field,or you are assigned to the second string,or you are cut like Joe Montana.

Posted by: TarheelChief | August 28, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Pitchers now throw 100 pitches.The pitcher union decided this was enough for any human being.
Haynesworth made his point,he will take 9 snaps and sit down.He's going to be just like Favre,the idol for the entire NFL Players Association.
If every agent and every player's relative assumes their man is playing tennis,golf, boxing or wrestling,then this might make sense.
I believe as LeBron found out and something Michael Jordan could have told him,you are a member of a team,and a team does not have handlers,cut men,and managers waiting to throw in the towel,or withdraw for potential injury halting the match.
No football,soccer,basketball operate according to the clock.Your body is carried off the field,or you are assigned to the second string,or you are cut like Joe Montana.

Posted by: TarheelChief | August 28, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Agree with you about RFK being much more of a home field advantage. There was no place louder when the temporary stands started bouncing up and down, and the Schaefer beer was flowing. What a great venue.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yep... RFK was like riding a wooden roller coaster. You could FEEL the whole place shaking... because it was! I haven't been to FedEx, but many times to RFK and anything above the first level... the stadium (structure) was doing the wave.

Posted by: AZborn | August 28, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Agree with you about RFK being much more of a home field advantage. There was no place louder when the temporary stands started bouncing up and down, and the Schaefer beer was flowing. What a great venue.
---------------------------------
Yep... RFK was like riding a wooden roller coaster. You could FEEL the whole place shaking... because it was! I haven't been to FedEx, but many times to RFK and anything above the first level... the stadium (structure) was doing the wave.

Posted by: AZborn | August 28, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

@Thinker

So every win the Skins have this season, will be overemphasizing? No one CARES what the stats are as far as giving up that one run to LT (it's LT, not LenDale White), but we did BEAT the Jets, who had their 1st String Offense in for a full 3 Quarters, and we gave up 1 TD, to a suppposedly explosive Paper Champion Offense.

1)I think you're being cynical. Grossman isn't a starter anymore, but he's arguably the best back-up in the league, behind Mike Vick. He was QB-ing in the Super Bowl, and did enough for them to last to the big game, right? he said himself, he likes Shanahan's offense, because it puts a leash on him, and doesn't give him too much freedom, which he ADMITTED was his problem in Chicago.

2)No sir. Beck looked like GARBAGE last game, and was OK yesterday.

3)What did our defense we do to THEIR offense, forcing 4 turnovers and 4 sacks?

4)This, I will give you, lol. HB Blades, hasn't showed me much.

5) LaRon a bust? Couldn't be farther from the truth. You didn't see him flying around the last 2 games, forcing a fumble in the Ravens game? Do you just not like him? I was there to see the 2 double pumps in the NO game last year. Bad. But let's not forget, he was thrown into FS when ST21 passed, after being drafted as a SS, and Blatche did NOT play to the defense's strengths.

6)Agreed. Armstrong is the truth. Way better than Marko Mitchell.

7)Parker is done, agreed.

8)Torain's got potential. Hard runner. Needs to protect the ball better...

9)Banks should be strictly KR/PR

10)Yeah, Gano needs to chill... Who remember's John Hall, Suisham, and Nick Novak. hahhaa

Overall good points, but a few seemed to be personal dislikes, more than actual Football analysis.

Posted by: joflood1987 | August 28, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

no, joflood, no personal dislikes...

I mean, I personally dislike when Landry whiffs on tackles. His first year, he was head-hunting, but still made many of his tackles. Last year, he tried to elevate the head-hunting, to the point that he was bouncing off people and not making the tackles. This year, he seems to be slightly timid on the tackles, but still bouncing off, and not finishing them.

I don't know how else to put it: He can't tackle. We know he's weak in coverage, already, but when you compound that weakness with an inability to finish off a tackle, you've got a serious flaw in your defense.

For my money, Doughty or Horton, neither one a highlight reel machine, are more "Safe," thus the position is called "Safety."

You want a sure tackler back there, at least. I hope Landry comes around, but at this stage in his career, it really seems like he just can't do it. I hope I'm wrong. I don't think so, unfortunately.

And on Grossman, yeah, personal dislike. He's consistently blowing things. Did the same in Chicago. I would rather see the Redskins pour their attention into Beck, as he seems to have decent athleticism and a nice arm. He took a sack yesterday, which I applauded. Until he exhibits that "Three Stooges" type of ineptitude that Grossman is famous for, I say give him every opportunity to be #2. I'd rather have him learning on the field during the season than having Grossman blundering in his 9th year or whatever it is. Make Grossman a coach. The next Jim Zorn.

And our Defense... D Hall looks awesome so far. That pic near the goal line was great. Great mental play. But, it was Sanchez. Romo may not throw that. Turnovers are great, but let's do something to stop the run. It was painful to watch. I hate to say this, but we'll be much better in this area when Fat Albert gets back in there. The guy is a jerk, but he's our anchor. Nobody on our team comes close to his abilities to shut down lanes and hold two O Lineman to a draw. We'll be better when he's in there.

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 28, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

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