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Haynesworth will have some catching up to do

After the second voluntary minicamp, veteran defensive lineman Phillip Daniels said Albert Haynesworth, who attended neither minicamp, had fallen behind his teammates in learning the Redskins' new 3-4 defensive scheme.

Frustrated about the coaching staff's plan to use him as a nose tackle, Haynesworth has skipped all but one day of Coach Mike Shanahan's first offseason program. The two-time all-pro selection plans to report for the mandatory three-day minicamp beginning June 16, according to people close to Haynesworth, and he will have some catching up to do.

"When I first got here, we met on a daily basis with the players, we did walk-throughs three times a week with the players ... so it was a process," defensive coordinator Jim Haslett said last week after the first session of organized team activities. "And it wasn't you walk in and one day you know [everything]. It was probably a two-month process just to get 'em lined up right.

"They're relearning everything. Terminology, everything, it's a totally different front. So it was probably a two-month process to get that part. So to walk in off the street and to think you're going to know ... this is one of these defenses that you just don't walk in and think you're going to learn right away. It's not that easy."

Haynesworth's actions will put "a strain on the coaches" because "it will take a lot of individual time and work" to get him up to speed, Haslett said. Obviously, the situation is not ideal for the Redskins, but "there's nothing you can do about it. ... It's not right, it's just the way it is."

The Redskins still would prefer to trade Haynesworth before the season, according to people with knowledge of the situation, if they receive what they want in exchange for a player who has appeared in only 12 games for them and received $32 million - including $21 million on April 1.

"All I know is this: We've got enough guys and we're fine," Haslett said. "We'll be fine."

By Jason Reid  |  May 23, 2010; 11:11 AM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Albert Haynesworth , Jim Haslett , Minicamp  
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Comments

first! Haynesworth should be fine he will have 2 responsibilities, rush the passer or occupy blockers...

Posted by: cgshelton | May 23, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

No, you won't be fine Haslett. you got a bunch of old linemen. Your dline is nothing without Haynesworth. If you want him here, make the minicamps Mandatory.

Posted by: harbirsingh | May 23, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

While the debate continues whether the A.W.O.L. Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth is the biggest crybaby in NFL history, don’t expect the "I don't wanna play no 3-4!" whiner to defend himself publicly anytime soon.

Posted by: RedCherokee | May 23, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The CBA dictates how many off-saeson sessions can be mandatory. With any luck Sir Albert will show up in shape ready to wreak havock when the mandatory sessions get here. Optimism is a necessary trait for a Redskins fan, at least for the last twelve years.
Looks like some thunder storm are warming up in Hampton Roads.

Posted by: wireman65 | May 23, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone else think of a time a player held out b/c he already got paid?

Posted by: chrislarry | May 23, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

chrislarry,
albert IS NOT holding out. if he misses mandatory mini-camp or actual training camp, then we can start to talk about holding out...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | May 23, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Best-case scenario is what wireman said up above: Albert shows up in great shape and picks up the defense immediately.

Something tells me his teammates and coaches will forget all this hullabaloo if he emerges as the havoc-wreaker we know he can be.

I wish I had faith that something along these lines would happen. I find it hard, though.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 23, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

A day without a Haynesworth story is like a day without, uh, an enema.

Posted by: Murphmeister | May 23, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I mean, after cashing in on $32 million dollars...if Albert was any kind of man he would feel like he owes us more than just a feigning interest.

"Thanks for making me the richet defensive player in the US, now f*** off losers!"

Posted by: iubiquity | May 23, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

This is the part of today's game I hate.

As for:

No, you won't be fine Haslett. you got a bunch of old linemen. Your dline is nothing without Haynesworth. If you want him here, make the minicamps Mandatory.

Posted by: harbirsingh | May 23, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Unless you've been to practice, you have no idea what they've got and how they'll play who they had last year. If you know the scheme, gap technique of the scheme, the stunts of the scheme, and personnel change up of the scheme, then I'll side with the coach.

Nobody wants a whiner on the team that already has it in his mind that he won't or can't play the technique or position that's asked of him.

Posted by: clark202 | May 23, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan, Allen, Haslett, and the players all continue to play the Haynesworth situation masterfully. Without getting ugly, they continue to put pressure on the big guy to show, and to show in shape. Although I think they have set up a scenario where the big guy could come in, and all will be forgiven, I think the likely scenario is a trade. I can't help but believe that Shanny and crew are just waiting for a major defensive tackle to go down with injury on a team with a 4-3 defense, and then swoop in like the good samaritan to solve that team's problem. It is kind of ironic, because that is just where the Dolphins were a few years back with Jason Taylor when the Redskins came calling. I hope Shanny and crew can get a great deal like Miami got.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

This guy is acting like he knows he won't be here this season. It would be shocking to me if he's on the opening day roster.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | May 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

see how he likes warming the bench

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | May 23, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Unless you've been to practice, you have no idea what they've got and how they'll play who they had last year. If you know the scheme, gap technique of the scheme, the stunts of the scheme, and personnel change up of the scheme, then I'll side with the coach.

Nobody wants a whiner on the team that already has it in his mind that he won't or can't play the technique or position that's asked of him.

Posted by: clark202

How many times have you heard a coach say that we are going to suck because our players at a position suck?

Coaches can't ever say publicly that they are about to fail because they don't have the players. Nobody wants to hear excuses before the season even starts and that woudl not endear himself to the guys who are there.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

AH is being a bad teammate making it all about him u paided him to play period not to play just in the 4-3

Posted by: drawingfreak77 | May 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

AH is being a bad teammate he is making it about him he was paided to play period not to just play in the 4-3

Posted by: drawingfreak77 | May 23, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Sorry that Al's absence is "going to put a strain on the coaches"..awwwww..the coaching is getting paid, isn't it? Look, the guy's a DT isn't he? Are they going to require him to drop into pass coverage?(LMAO at the image)..as a DT, all he's got to do is pancake the guy in front of him, if Al's uncovered, stay at home and look for the ballcarrier..NFL types would have you believe that X's and O's are the equivalent of brain surgery..it's not. These OTA's are an obvious way to try to get around the CBA restrictions on off season practices. If the players had any brains they would all boycott this nonsense. All we need is one starter to take a misstep, twist a knee, and the season's heading into the toilet before it even begins. No Haslett, you're not fine..if you have to count on Phil Daniels(what is he now, about 50?) then you're in deep doodoo..if the 'Skins want to make a trade, here's an idea: package Allen, Shanahan and McNothing into a deal for a possible 2nd rounder..

Posted by: markappraiser1 | May 23, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry that Al's absence is "going to put a strain on the coaches"..awwwww..the coaching is getting paid, isn't it? Look, the guy's a DT isn't he? Are they going to require him to drop into pass coverage?(LMAO at the image)..as a DT, all he's got to do is pancake the guy in front of him, if Al's uncovered, stay at home and look for the ballcarrier..NFL types would have you believe that X's and O's are the equivalent of brain surgery..it's not. These OTA's are an obvious way to try to get around the CBA restrictions on off season practices. If the players had any brains they would all boycott this nonsense. All we need is one starter to take a misstep, twist a knee, and the season's heading into the toilet before it even begins. No Haslett, you're not fine..if you have to count on Phil Daniels(what is he now, about 50?) then you're in deep doodoo..if the 'Skins want to make a trade, here's an idea: package Allen, Shanahan and McNothing into a deal for a possible 2nd rounder..

Posted by: markappraiser1 | May 23, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

After the second voluntary minicamp, veteran defensive lineman Phillip Daniels said Albert Haynesworth, who attended neither minicamp, had fallen behind his teammates in learning the Redskins' new 3-4 defensive scheme.--REDSKIN INSIDER

Haynesworth & Moss for Houston's Johnson?

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Looks like some thunder storm are warming up in Hampton Roads.

Posted by: wireman65

Hmmm. I know HR is Virginny, and you're slickless (for now), but I wonder, if lightning hits an oil slick, can the Gulf explode?

Kinda puts that AH crisis in perspective, eh what?

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

If Big Al has "fallen behind his teammates" how about Fedexing him a playbook? That should eliminate the terminology problem. Didn't the Redskin's "brain trust" think of that?
If anybody's a lousy teammate, it's Daniels, who needs to keep his big mouth shut..

Posted by: markappraiser1 | May 23, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"If Big Al has "fallen behind his teammates" how about Fedexing him a playbook? That should eliminate the terminology problem. Didn't the Redskin's "brain trust" think of that?" posted by markappraiser1

LOL what makes you think he'd read it?

We're looking at a divorce situation here. When Albert shows up for the mandatories, look for him to be in OK shape but to participate as little as possible. He's trying to force an outright release. The Skins are hoping for a trade.

It seems outlandish to us that somebody could cash those checks and yet feel no obligation to perform, but then, we're not highly specialized professional athletes with a HGH-size sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 23, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Why would you FedEx a guy a playbook who might be traded to another team?

Posted by: MadeRED | May 23, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry that Al's absence is "going to put a strain on the coaches"..awwwww..the coaching is getting paid, isn't it? Look, the guy's a DT isn't he? Are they going to require him to drop into pass coverage?(LMAO at the image)..These OTA's are an obvious way to try to get around the CBA restrictions on off season practices. If the players had any brains they would all boycott this nonsense. All we need is one starter to take a misstep, twist a knee, and the season's heading into the toilet before it even begins."
Posted by: markappraiser1

No use getting all exercised over this, mate. Albert's going to claim the team switched up on him by changing defenses to something they knew he didn't want to play. The team's going to claim Albert's refusal to practice is costing them time and money. It's just a blame game. Divorce doesn't bring out the best in either side.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 23, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

i was with Moe on the whole "leave Albert be" thing, but the more i read about the situation, the more i'm losing that attitude.

is this because of the bombardment of AH posts from RI? yeah, maybe, but if playing a 4-3 under front is that much different from playing a 3-4 front, maybe the "trade him" crowd is right.

can we reach a concensus on what the 'Skins could get for AH? i've seen lots of proposals on here but they all get shot down. what's realistic?

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Haynesworthless! Get your fat a$$ to practice. I'll bet the farm that he's injured at some point next year. I remember last year when he was laying on his back on the sidelines most of the season. What a joke. I mean if not for the coaches and fans.......do it for your teammates. These are the men that your going to battle with every Sunday and they are showing up to OTA's even though they don't have too.

Posted by: Hans7 | May 23, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan, Allen, Haslett, and the players all continue to play the Haynesworth situation masterfully. Without getting ugly, they continue to put pressure on the big guy to show, and to show in shape...
Posted by: RedSkinHead

Absolutely.
The team is playing this just right. Shanallen are putting on pressure while playing the "nice guy" public persona, all while not hurting AH's trade value with a public affray.
We don't know how this will end, but I think Shanallen are going to get the best of all potential outcomes (trade, AH on-field performance if he stays) of all possible outcomes.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | May 23, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Breaking News: Albert Haynesworth didn't come to Redskins Park today either. More to come, really it is.

Posted by: MadeRED | May 23, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Hmmm. I know HR is Virginny, and you're slickless (for now), but I wonder, if lightning hits an oil slick, can the Gulf explode?"

They still haven't capped off that thing?? Where is the gov't crackdown on BP?? Don't get my Globalism paranoia up, it very well might behoove them to ruin the nation's economy , previous attempts failed because the economy is much larger than they had anticipated (relative to 1929), sink a South Korean ship a la Gulf of Tonkin false flag at the same time, these idiots will do anything for Control, f*** 'em and the Globalism they rode in on.."Thriving On Chaos" by Peter Drucker M****r F******r...I thrive on my Chelada, which is screaming from a refrigerator..OI!!

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

MadeRed, the question is: Why would I trade a guy who was a 2 time all pro?
Again, this is a DT, he's not doing pass coverage..
Samson, last season all of Al's D teammates and D coaches said that the team sack totals increased because Al was tying up 2 blockers..who cares about the bonus money? Is it coming out of your pocket? Then don't worry about it!

Posted by: markappraiser1 | May 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

If it was so important that these players attend these camps to learn the new defense, then they should have made them mandatory. Don't say it's voluntary and then give people crap for not showing.

Who runs this team? Seems like Chotchkies from Office Space where you're required to wear a minimum of 15 pieces of flair but then get crap if you ONLY wear 15.

Posted by: octobertea | May 23, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 1:32 PM

Don't know if a lightening strike could ignite the slick but I suppose it's possible. You're right the AH "crisis" is no match to what BP "we're bringing petroleum to American shores" has done to our gulf. I'm just worried what happens when that stuff gets in the Gulf Stream, that passes just 15 miles off Hatteras and I just bought a house down in Frisco. Woops this is a football blog, sorry.

Posted by: wireman65 | May 23, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, Albert is sick...My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Albert pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Or maybe he's still trying to decide what picture of food he's going to eat at the Huddle House in TN.

Posted by: boricuabopper | May 23, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Butterworth's contract could be the worst NFL contract in history from the perspective of the Redskins organization. He has all the leverage since 3/4 of the guaranteed money has been paid in the FIRST YEAR. Now the Redskins want to get him to do something outside of CBA rules, like attending voluntary workouts, and they have zero leverage.

I love how so many think all Butterworth has to do is step onto the field to make brilliant plays in this defense. Are you even reading what Haslett and Daniels have been saying about preparing to play in a completely different defense? It takes time, effort, and working together to make a successful transition to this new defense. Of course it's not legally mandatory to attend these particular workouts, but it is mandatory to put in the time to learn this new defense with the team.

For all the AH slurpers:
4-12.

Posted by: hithere1 | May 23, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Eight of the 41 players on UVA's men's lacrosse roster this spring had been charged with alcohol-related offenses during their time at the university, according to court records.

------------

Nate said something about "one bad apple?"

Sounds more like a whole bushel of rotten Cavaliers to me.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | May 23, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

the issue with AH is that he is the only one not attending that is healthy. I think his teammates won't forget this attitude either. They will work with him but he is making CP look like a "team-first" player. Never thought that possible.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

While the debate continues whether the A.W.O.L. Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth

Posted by: RedCherokee | May 23, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse


AWOL = Absent Without Leave

Last I checked the calendar it was the offseason...which means he has "leave".

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth's actions will put "a strain on the coaches" because "it will take a lot of individual time and work" to get him up to speed, Haslett said.


Boohoo, Haslett. Let me break out a violin for you. Sorry if doing your job is going to put a "strain" on you.

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone else think of a time a player held out b/c he already got paid?

Posted by: chrislarry | May 23, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse


Can anyone else think of a time when not coming to non-mandatory events was considered "holding out"?

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Best-case scenario is what wireman said up above: Albert shows up in great shape and picks up the defense immediately.

Something tells me his teammates and coaches will forget all this hullabaloo if he emerges as the havoc-wreaker we know he can be.

I wish I had faith that something along these lines would happen. I find it hard, though.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 23, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

And something tells me jreid will never forget. Or write about anything else.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. I know HR is Virginny, and you're slickless (for now), but I wonder, if lightning hits an oil slick, can the Gulf explode?

Kinda puts that AH crisis in perspective, eh what?

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Today it rained, and I needed to change out of some wet socks...

...that put the AH "crisis" into perspective for me.

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

got it Funk, you think AH is doing nothing wrong and all this is being blown out of proportion. Just because these meeting are not mandatory doesn;t make it fine to skip them. What do you think the other players that have attended think of him? He is another of a long list of me-first players that suck the life out of the aport IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

sport

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The staff are bored..They're just chummin' the water for you makos, until the next big HGH story hits...ARRHGH!!

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This guy is acting like he knows he won't be here this season. It would be shocking to me if he's on the opening day roster.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | May 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

WG, we could only hope!

Posted by: stwasm | May 23, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Haslett- Coach the players that are there. When Haynesworth gets there, coach him. That's your job. Quit crying to the press, do your job. Hopefully, better than you have done elsewhere.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | May 23, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

got it Funk, you think AH is doing nothing wrong and all this is being blown out of proportion. Just because these meeting are not mandatory doesn;t make it fine to skip them. What do you think the other players that have attended think of him? He is another of a long list of me-first players that suck the life out of the aport IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I think there's fair criticism to make about AH and I think there is ridiculous hyperbole.

Calling a guy "AWOL" and a "holdout" in the offseason for non-mandatory events is absolutely ridiculous and blown out of proportion.

I doubt you come into work on the weekends when you don't have to. I bet that you'd think it were ridiculous if someone observing your work habits relentlessly bashed you as a person b/c you didn't.

Wouldn't it help your company's bottom line? Wouldn't it impress your boss? Wouldn't it make you better and more productive at what you do?

Yes. Yes. Yes.

But I'm willing to bet that you aren't posting these comments from work right now...and if you are, then you are a slacker like Haynesworth b/c you should be focusing on your job.

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I didn't go to work today. I could have, on a voluntary basis, but instead i stayed home.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"If Big Al has "fallen behind his teammates" how about Fedexing him a playbook? That should eliminate the terminology problem. Didn't the Redskin's "brain trust" think of that?"

They probably did; however, would you want to trust your playbook to someone who probably would use it for toilet paper just to make a point?

Posted by: pberger1 | May 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

What do you think the other players that have attended think of him?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Depends on who you talk to.

Philip Daniels is basically a coach with a roster spot, so he predictably is putting out the proper company line.

Chris Cooley, who seems to be more of an off-the-cuff free thinker, apparently could care less as long as the dude shows up to play.

I guess I tend toward the Cooley POV.

Anyways, I think the other players are envious that they aren't making the same kind of $$ AH and don't have the same kind of leverage.

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem is not that he is not showing up to OTAs. It is also not a big deal if he is a little behind right now. The problem is that he is publicly stating he wants nothing to do with this defense.

I would have thought that the Haslett would have adjusted his scheme to allow for a more penetrating nose tackle in the mold of Shaun Rogers vs the space eating nose tackle ala Vince Wilfork. Just because it is a 3-4 does not mean that the NT can't be of the penetrating type. They also could have sold moved him to one of the Ends with the responsibility of getting after the QB.

The coaching staff came in with a my way or the highway attitude. Which is fine but losing AH makes this defense slightly better than pedestrian. The defense was overrated as it was. Losing it's best player will not help. It will also cause Orakpo to see a lot more double teams as no one else will require one. The defense was already towards the bottom of the league in turnovers and scoring defense. This will cause the yards/g to go up which is the only stat that was highly rated.

Couple that with a still very suspect Oline and no Tana and you get another really long season.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:48 PM

You always seem to take an interesting stand and love to defend the indefensible. I’m not sure how you could justify AH being the ONLY guy not at “voluntary” OTAs.

1. New coach, New FO
2. New Scheme (Shefter reports that Shanny/Haslet haven’t even had a convo about AH’s role)
3. New Strength and conditioning coaches/programs/revamped faculties
4. They watch 30-60 minutes of game film per day
5. 4-12 last year
6. Contract- nuff said

He’s one of possibly two elite players on our roster and he better show up in the same kind of shape he showed up two years ago during his contract season or it will be 10x uglier than it is now.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that he is publicly stating he wants nothing to do with this defense.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse


Where exactly are those "public" statements?

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I say throw him in untrained into a bunch of double teams and hope he gets so badly hurt and looks so pathetic no other team will want ever want him.

Make him an example. No Redskin fan wants him here now anyway.

Posted by: mac2j | May 23, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

You always seem to take an interesting stand and love to defend the indefensible. I’m not sure how you could justify AH being the ONLY guy not at “voluntary” OTAs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse


C'mon, Diez. You said it. They are "voluntary".

I don't need to defend or justify the action. The burden is on the other side of the argument to somehow transform the definition of "non-mandatory" into its exact opposite meaning.


BTW, which frat were you a part of (out of curiosity)?

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I say throw him in untrained into a bunch of double teams and hope he gets so badly hurt and looks so pathetic no other team will want ever want him.

Make him an example. No Redskin fan wants him here now anyway.

Posted by: mac2j | May 23, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse


Great idea. Let's get zero return for our investment in him. That'll show 'em.

Even though no Redskin fan here wants him, let's find a way to devalue him as much as possible so no one else would take him.

This, my friends, is what the criticism has come to...and people think I lack perspective??

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"And something tells me jreid will never forget. Or write about anything else."

No doubt. And I forgot to say in my last post F dallas.

Posted by: wireman65 | May 23, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

frat?

You call your mother a muff, your sister a hore, your country a c@nt?

just kidding...same as your roommate

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Today it rained, and I needed to change out of some wet socks...

...that put the AH "crisis" into perspective for me.

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 2:51 PM


One of the more sensible posts in the last several days.

Posted by: wireman65 | May 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mac2j | May 23, 2010 3:22 PM

Better yet..let’s get Tonya Harding to set it up and then have it videotaped so we can hear AH scream "Whhhhhhhhhhyyyy Meeeeeeeeeeeee".

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 23, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Make him an example. No Redskin fan wants him here now anyway."

You'd sh*t all over Riggo back in the day when he would holdout, too, wouldn't you?? Thanks for appointing yourself king, Dubya, we was blind without ya..

How convenient that the South Korean ship was sunk right before the Japs was gonna kick us outta Okinawa...What heinous swine thought up the concept of "World Peace", anyway??...

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that he is publicly stating he wants nothing to do with this defense.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse


Where exactly are those "public" statements?

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Co sign. I'd also like to see a link to these comments.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Before Albert made any decisions about when or not to show up he was already being traded by Shanny if you can believe the press. If I was already being shopped before the draft and my future was uncertain I sure as hell would not go to work on my day off and risk getting hurt.

Danny made this deal what it is by giving Albert a contract that gave him all the leverage. Why shouldn't he take advantage of it? And he is not holding out or AWOL. He is taking his time off and getting ready to come back to work when his union contract says he has to.

Why does anyone give a damn about how much AH got paid? He signed a contract that said exactly what he had to do. So far he is doing exactly what he agreed to do. I don't care under current conditions with the cap, etc. how much money Danny pissed away out of stupidity. AH got the most absurd contract in NFL history. More power to him.

And it's not like he needs to be in these "non-manditory" camps and OTA's to be the monster we know he can be.

Leave big Albert alone. Find another issue - I know it's the off season and we are all dying for news but this is not really a big deal unless we make it one, and I want Albert back damn it!!!

Posted by: mgginva | May 23, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Where exactly are those "public" statements?

Posted by: p1funk

There was an article about a week ago that stated that AH felt as though he was lied to. He was brought into be a disruptive 4-3 DT and was now being asked to be 3-4 space eater.

If AH was ok with playing in the 3-4 but missing the OTAs this would not even be newsworthy.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

From his actions so far this offseason, I don't see Fat Albert as having the intelligence to be able to pick up the new defense very quickly. This is the same guy, if you remember, who stepped on a players unprotected head in full view of the refs and the cameras. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Posted by: unquiltom | May 23, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

just kidding...same as your roommate

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse


That's funny - I've heard some stories...

Posted by: p1funk | May 23, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I say throw him in untrained into a bunch of double teams and hope he gets so badly hurt and looks so pathetic no other team will want ever want him.

Make him an example. No Redskin fan wants him here now anyway.

Posted by: mac2j | May 23, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I guess Dean Wormer didn't reach everyone.

And the wapo ministry of reasons to hate all things Redskins is alive and well.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Its semi-down time here in the off-season..Just because the gums are sore , you don't have to pick at it and pick at it, until you have to extract a nut-cracking molar..Or maybe thats the goal of some..I admit, wouldn't be bad to trade him for some value, but the odds of that happening are anorexic, he provides us with more value coming in late and slowly catchin' up, just fillin' holes..Trade him next year if you must, but even slightly off, he's as good a "Berzerker" as we'll find, right, chrislarry??

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so I've never been a fan of the fat bastard we call Albert.

And when fat Albert does show up, he'll be out of shape and remain uncommitted to the team.

Even though I'm not buying into the complexity of a new D scheme, AH is living proof that evolution can go in reverse. And we know this from interviews and media interactions from 2009 that pretty much establish that the fat bastard will never be known to pull a full wagon, so he will be lost if and when he decides to get on the line and become familiar with whatever Haslett is putting in place.

He needs to take a break from counting his money and show more commitment to his teammates, especially after last season.

After all, if it wasn't for football, this fat a$$ B roam'n the woods behind the trailer, hunt'n that big ol'coon that has the run of the park.

I hope he's traded - ship his a$$ off to Detroit, Buffalo or St Louis.

Posted by: psssst | May 23, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The comments were on Sirius radio. Where he clearly said that he was not thrilled about playing a 3-4.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 23, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it help your company's bottom line? Wouldn't it impress your boss? Wouldn't it make you better and more productive at what you do?

Yes. Yes. Yes.

But I'm willing to bet that you aren't posting these comments from work right now...and if you are, then you are a slacker like Haynesworth b/c you should be focusing on your job.

Posted by: p1funk


Your point is interesting but valid only if an entire company were working weekends except for one of the key personnel.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

.....plus I'm in sales and I have worked more weekends than most and worked late into the evening many nights. No salary for me.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, it's May. May! Haynesworth has the mandatory June minicamp and all of training camp to figure out the defense, if he's still a Redskin. He's a long time veteran and he's seen a lot of football. He'll be fine.

Oh, and he was lied to. Now he had to know that a coaching change was possible or even probable, but he was told he would be the disruptive 4-3 tackle and even last year wasn't given that opportunity. Let him blow off some steam and let's worry about what happens when the games count.

Posted by: MarquisSmith | May 23, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Let him sit on the bench until he learns the scheme, if he ever does.

Posted by: min7th | May 23, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

lied to or a regime change? seems an adult could figure it out and adjust.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | May 23, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

These OTA's are an obvious way to try to get around the CBA restrictions on off season practices. If the players had any brains they would all boycott this nonsense.

Posted by: markappraiser1 | May 23, 2010 1:27 PM

Personally if I were trying to make the team, I would show up for every single session, every single practice, hell I would sleep in the film room if I thought it would help me make the team and one of the people with brains skipping class lose their job.

Sorry that you find knowing the schemes as well as possible stupid.

Posted by: Keiser | May 23, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Why would you FedEx a guy a playbook who might be traded to another team?

Posted by: MadeRED | May 23, 2010 2:04 PM

indeed.

my guess is that they sent him this and told him study up:

http://www.football-plays.com/images/products/large_images/winning_youth_football_defense_dvd_233x375.jpg

he can get the real thing when he joins the team.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin: I'm a big supporter of offshore drilling

I can see why. It was onshore drilling that got her daughter preggers.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

And if i was the preeminent player in the League at my position, i wouldn't have to worry about making the team, picking up the subtle intricacies of lining up in the proper gap, and running the correct stunt while fighting off a doubleteam every snap. I would be more worried about ensuring I met each and every clause in my contract.

It amazes me how much press this non story continues to get and how quickly the denizens of hamster nation are ready to run the best DT in football out of town on a rail because he says... nah, thanks for the invite to volunteer, but I'd rather hang out at home during the OFF season instead of parading around like a trained monkey all spring long in lovely Ashburn, VA taking 8 weeks to learn things i can learn in two in July.

Frankly, i don't blame the guy.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"If Big Al has "fallen behind his teammates" how about Fedexing him a playbook? That should eliminate the terminology problem. Didn't the Redskin's "brain trust" think of that?" posted by markappraiser1

LOL what makes you think he'd read it?
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What makes you think he can READ?

Posted by: pjohn2 | May 23, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

terrapin

"...I was...on the whole "leave Albert be" thing, but the more I read about the situation, the more I'm losing that attitude..."


Do situations change people or do people change because of the situation?

The situation with AH has not changed

But with S Moss' situation being in possible flux, this person now wants a trade:

I'd move AH for some other team's solid vet receiver.

Straight up.

No fuss, no fury, no clever future draft picks ex-changed.

If Moss is suspended (for how long?), we might start the season with J Galloway, M Kelly, and D Thomas as our starting wide outs.

Let that settle in your mind for a moment.

Dangling AH means a team sniffing at the move would have to offer a solid receiver in return.

And even if you don't move AH, you wonder if types like C Chambers, Brandon Stokely, or TJ Housemanshaneh can be added on the cheap.

The situation with AH and the redskins has not changed.

But some of us people would like to announce that in light of the obvious need for a solid vet receiver, our opinions about trading AH have changed.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Couple of comments on the AH topic.

1. If the Skins want to trade him they are not going to get any realistic offers now. Teams are going to want to wait until after training camp has started when the Skins will be under pressure to make a deal quickly so the tradees will be able to integrate into their new teams.

2. If he comes into camp in good shape that will be far more important than having to speed-learn the new system. He will be a space eater and (a) that is not a complcated role to play and (b) it is very important to be in good shape to have the stamina required for the max physical exertion needed to push the OL backward.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

And before somebody spews the "build team chemistry " crap:

AH92 is a proven team guy who is willing to BRAWL when some punk from another team tries to take liberties with a fellow wearer of the Burgundy and Gold.

When he a) fails to show up to mandatory activities, b) fails to learn the d line requirements and calls during same, and c) goes off on his own tangent during games rather than follow the calls, I'll change my tune.

Until then this is just jreid banging the same weak azz little drum he has been toting around all off season because he is too lazy or too incompetent to dig up another carrot to munch on. Like who are the other two Galea guys?

ps keep your crusty cake hole closed corky, capiche?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

For some crimes, extended suffering should be apart of the sentencing requirement.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Like, for instance, forcing them to reading to the end of every RI thread.

Posted by: farstriker | May 23, 2010 9:30 AM |

Even better, forcing them to read a compendium of MistaMoe's posts. I hear that that is one of the options you can choose when you do rendition in the new Call of Duty: Black Ops game.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Why would you FedEx a guy a playbook who might be traded to another team?

Posted by: MadeRED | May 23, 2010 2:04 PM

indeed.

my guess is that they sent him this and told him study up:

http://www.football-plays.com/images/products/large_images/winning_youth_football_defense_dvd_233x375.jpg

he can get the real thing when he joins the team.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 5:19 PM |

It is called exposing the enemy to disinformation because the playbook you send him is a fake. Using disinformaion is going to be one of the neat things you can do when the new game Call of Duty: Black Ops comes out.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Just wait until the Skins start losing games....or heck, just wait until the 3rd/4th game win or lose as Albert complains about his role or how unhappy he is.....and that doesn't even include him claiming to be injured when he probably is not

Posted by: Bious | May 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Make Alberts worst fears a reality. Make him a nose tackle first. After he learns that position (which will probally take a while since he didn't show for voluntary workouts), start training him for other positions. When he learns the other positions start sliding him along the line (for the playoffs).

Posted by: tandyman | May 23, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

And if you don't like it, wait till what I say is true. Then you can raise your meek minds again.

Ever played football?

Then shut it. Don't know squat. Wait and see...

Or open your ignorant mouths and eat your nonsensical words later, while you celebrate.

Just so sick of the dumb morons who get to blow warm air for the offseason.

Campbell will expose you all for BSers.

So, go ahead, stake your handles on it.

You'll be signing in with new handles in a matter of months.

Go ahead. I know football. You don't. Make your stand. But stand by it when you're cheering our second victory over Dallas.

Stand by it when your celebrating our second win over the Giants. Stand by your BS. Lets get Tim Tebow.

Are you insane?

Tebow couldn't beat Randle El out for QB of a pro team. El would SMOKE him. No doubt.

Line up your names now. And sign in with new handles next year.

BET.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert was horribly out of shape last year and that's why he had to roll around on the ground acting hurt after every 4th or 5th play.
For a guy who is getting his kind of money he should have been in world class form when he showed up. That alone is enough to convince me that he had a moral obligation to get into camp and be sure he was ready this year.

Posted by: pd2710 | May 23, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

McNabb has plenty left in the tank. Dude is a workaholic when it comes to conditioning.

Posted by: Chia_Pet |

You seen him lately? He looks more like a porkaholic.

And smack1 would know what a porkaholic looks like.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: pd2710 | May 23, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

One reason AH has stated he is staying home is to return to working out with his PT who had him in optimal shape while he was with the Titans.

One of his major beefs ...which was valid when he made his decision to stay home and work with his PT...was that the Redskins Strength and Conditioning team sucked nads. Other players have confirmed this with their glowing reports of how wonderfully the new staff is doing getting the players in shape.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

"Even better, forcing them to read a compendium of MistaMoe's posts."

I've posted more today than I intended.

And with that being said, I will return to my absence from this forum.

Ciao----

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 23, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin: I'm a big supporter of offshore drilling

I can see why. It was onshore drilling that got her daughter preggers.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who mentions politics on a sports board is a complete and utter waste of human life.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert was horribly out of shape last year and that's why he had to roll around on the ground acting hurt after every 4th or 5th play.

Posted by: pd2710 | May 23, 2010 5:53 PM |

Don't know where he is or what he is doing but let's hope it's lots of weight lifting and roadwork, especially roadwork. He needs to sweat all of that Popeyes junk out of his system.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I will return to my extended absence from this forum.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

Thank U.

@}--)---

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for appointing yourself king, Dubya, we was blind without ya..

Posted by: Frak |

Take your Bush/Obama bashing to the front page nitwit.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

If LeBron James isn't sure he can win in Cleveland, President Barack Obama thinks there's an opportunity with his hometown Chicago Bulls.

Boo, hiss. Him pimping the Bulls to LeBron is ridiculous. He needs to wrap his brain around CSNY and "Love the One You're With" like frak has done.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Thank you RI for this AH update. As a 'Skins fan, I am definitely interested in all the updates on this super-significant offseason story (and no, this is not irony).

Either one of two things to happen with AH. Number one, he gets dealt for at least two high round picks or an outstanding young NFL pro-bowl caliber athlete. I am pleased so far that they haven't unloaded him cheaply, yet.

Secondly, I would love to see Shanahan make an example out of Haynesworth and run him absolutely ragged in training camp and beyond. If I were coach this year, I would dictate that AH plays NT, when he gets to play. I would be all about rebuilding and setting the team first tone for the future (I don't think this is where Shanahan's head is at, by the way... I think it's more win now).

AH should not get a cushy ticket out of town...honestly he should get his butt whipped this year and then get unceremoniously shipped out of town. Fair deal, he gets $40 million for the stigmata or whatever, but we get the Snyder sin is purged.

Frankly, I'd rather AH stay and pay rather than be traded. I'll admit it's not rational, but I have come to absolutely loathe Haynesworth. Besides being a classic self-centered jerk, he also happnes to be a symbol of the Dumb and Dumber era, like Thomas and Kelly are (this is their last season here too). Let the exorcism begin!

Posted by: Pepper5 | May 23, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The flop artists are out in full force, aren't they. First the Cavs then the Sharks and the Magic have been DOA - all that is needed is the mere formality of the coroner's signature. The Cavs and the Magic were big surprises but the Sharks are merely reverting to form. They usually flop in the opening round of the playoffs after finishing the season with the best conference record. This year they they actually showed a little grit before they rolled over. Always nice to see variations on a common theme.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@ p1funk:

So you would rather support one player (AH) who has no loyalty to the Redskins, instead of supporting the Redskins organization to succeed?

Weird.

I support the team. They are right, Butterworth is wrong.

Oh yeah, PS:

4-12.

Posted by: hithere1 | May 23, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

@SkinsfaninKaneohe:

4-12.

That was the result of Butterworth's $30,000,000 brilliance last season.

4-12.

Posted by: hithere1 | May 23, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Nice ..another article repeating all the same stuff we already know and have read about....Way to keep the Albert aintworth talk going....guess its a slow week

Posted by: leevi98 | May 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

U-Md. lacrosse coach out

With the Balt metro area being the lax hotbed that it is the Terps should be making some noise and they haven't.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

hithere... what is your point? Is there one other than AH is AWOL, or not a team guy, or the Redskins went 4-12 because AH got paid 30,000,000?

They went 4-12 because vinny never got any oline help, two starters went down, Zorn is an idiot who should have never been the coach, and Campbell is missing the it factor intangible.

If you want to blame AH, at least throw the ex Strength and Conditioning staff under the bus with him. He showed up LAST spring, followed their program, and was out of shape.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Fat Albert is missing from OTA's is not the awful part of the story. It's the circumstances. Here's a guy who was 1) out of shape last year, 2) coming into a new defense, 3) has a coach who is trying to take a team and change its culture with discipline and leadership, 4) complaining about playing in the defense when he hasn't even shown up yet, and 5) just cashed checks for 32 million.

The audacity of this guy is what is so awful. Veterans miss voluntary stuff all the time.

Posted by: MadeRED | May 23, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone who mentions politics on a sports board is a complete and utter waste of human life.Posted by: Risa_L"

You just did exactly that.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 23, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for appointing yourself king, Dubya, we was blind without ya..

Posted by: Frak |

Take your Bush/Obama bashing to the front page nitwit.

Posted by: Risa_L | May 23, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

If LeBron James isn't sure he can win in Cleveland, President Barack Obama thinks there's an opportunity with his hometown Chicago Bulls.

Boo, hiss. Him pimping the Bulls to LeBron is ridiculous. He needs to wrap his brain around CSNY and "Love the One You're With" like frak has done.

Posted by: TubularBells


Teams are out, and I force all your mothers to suck their sons d*ck at gunpoint, chop[ it off , shove it down her throat, pour gasoline on em, then chainsaw 'em up the c*nt while in flames, like a Serb would do...peace..

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

You sign a player coming off a career season, an MVP-type season, to more $$ than he's ever seen in his entire life, thus ensuring he never has to play another down in his career, and at some point you notice that he's not playing as well as he did the year before.

Why do teams insist on doing this?

Haynesworth is no Stubblefield, but the similarities are clearly there.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 23, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

For all the AH slurpers:
4-12.

Posted by: hithere1 | May 23, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse
Haslett said it would take 2 months to learn what has happened so far. When AH comes back to camp in mid June, he will have months to get ready, and it will still be training camp. What is the big deal?

Posted by: frediefritz | May 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Haslett said it would take 2 months to learn what has happened so far. When AH comes back to camp in mid June, he will have months to get ready, and it will still be training camp. What is the big deal?

Posted by: frediefritz | May 23, 2010 8:03 PM

Two months behind is two months behind. The rest of the team will have a lot of work left to do to be ready to play games come June, and AH will have all that plus a couple months worth more.

If the "voluntary" workouts were so meaningless with a new system coming in, why did every other player attend? Everyone else understands the need for extra effort, but Al chooses to work to the union rule. Terrific.

Haynesworth had a well-established reputation for half-effort before his contract year in 2008, but Snyderatto insisted on offering exactly the wrong kind of contract for that type of player. This is the biggest, but not the last of the old regime's mistakes that Shanallen need to work through.

Posted by: zimbar | May 23, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Things we know of without question about AH.

- He isn't a gentleman. A man who cashes $32 million in salary and doesn't show conduct appropriate.

- He isn't ambitious. $32 million bought an awful lot of grass time last year by him feigning injury.

- He isn't a team player. Perhaps AH needs to watch the Boston Celtics play.

- He is arrogant. Stonewalling a head coach who has won Super Bowls isn't exemplary. Having never won a Super Bowl, AH has no grounds to stand on.

- He is selfish. Nothing about him suggests he's remotely concerned about anyone but himself.

- Narrow minded. AH seems to think that the only thing he has to do is to play one position or system. Perhaps AH should have explained this to Jason Campbell who managed to handle transition with care and tact which seems to have never entered AH's pecan sized brain.

- Lazy. A man who supposed has all his gifts certainly does take off plays, fakes injuries, and has no work ethic. Perhaps if he could play like a hall of famer, he'd be able to maintain his aura of being one.

Posted by: laserwizard | May 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

It is called exposing the enemy to disinformation because the playbook you send him is a fake. Using disinformaion is going to be one of the neat things you can do when the new game Call of Duty: Black Ops comes out.

Posted by: TubularBells | May 23, 2010 5:45 PM

not up on video games for a long time, but that will improve as the calves get older. my frame of reference is Pong, Asteroid, and such.

scoff if you want... but it was pretty cool to hang out at the arcades on the boardwalk and waste quarters while everyone watched to see if you could get the high score.

as a Mike Oldfield aficionado, you're pretty current with gaming, or a youngster who listens to music way older than your birthday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4eZJh3FFg0&feature=related

cool either way, just interesting to see the disconnect between the handle and content.

not that I'm one to talk.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Teams are out, and I force all your mothers to suck their sons d*ck at gunpoint, chop[ it off , shove it down her throat, pour gasoline on em, then chainsaw 'em up the c*nt while in flames, like a Serb would do...peace..

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 7:11 PM

and frak, what happened to cheladas... your posts have taken a turn to the dark side lately.

you can be honest with me.

have you been drinking wine coolers?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

GEEZ... Talk about beating a DEAD HORSE, Jason Reid. Slow news weekend? I mean... slow news month? There are at least 79 other players on this team. Any chance you could report on some of them for a change?

Listen, we all would be thrilled if AH was there, but in reality, no team in the league gets 100% attendance for voluntary OTA's and mini-camps. It's always been that way and many quality, character guys around the league decide to work out on their own every off-season.

This isn't anything new or unprecedented. Hell... London Fletcher has a history of skipping the voluntary stuff too. BFD!

Until AH actually comes out as says "publicly" he won't play in this system or until he actually misses mandatory workouts, I'm not the least bit concerned.

Hey Reid... any chance you could find something else to report? Or are you just a one trick pony that can only beat dead horses?

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

LOL what makes you think he'd read it?

We're looking at a divorce situation here. When Albert shows up for the mandatories, look for him to be in OK shape but to participate as little as possible. He's trying to force an outright release. The Skins are hoping for a trade.

It seems outlandish to us that somebody could cash those checks and yet feel no obligation to perform, but then, we're not highly specialized professional athletes with a HGH-size sense of entitlement.

POSTED BY Samson 151

Head. Nail. Hitting on same. Great post.

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

By the way... it's quite amusing how Reid and the Post can constantly put this stuff out there to get some of you all worked up. It's actually why he continues to do it... it's news drama to put you, and keep you, on tilt.

There are SO MANY players that skip voluntary stuff every year, yet when the season rolls around, no one gives a crap. AH will be there when he's required. This is not unprecedented.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Kobe Bryant is the best NBA player, I'm so glad he shook loose from the corrupt gov't's play in Colorado...It should be the the Irresistable Force versus the Immovable Object when the Lakers meet the Celts, hot damn..

Posted by: frak | May 23, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Head. Nail. Hitting on same. Great post.

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 9:04 PM

have a hammer and nails, but feel like the house has already been built.

let's see what happens...

old DC commute habits like rubbernecking are hard to leave behind, likewise mixed metaphors.

and skinsfreak, I'm all for one-trick ponies that beat dead horses...

generally means less competition in the pasture.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

AH was at redskins park all last year and was at every team ota's. and was in the worst shape of his career. so he decided to go and train with the guy who trained him in the past to come back in his probowl form and he is getting -hited on for it. it's funny they bought in a new training staff why because they new what AH new they were a joke. so why jump on AH for going to a real training staff.

Posted by: dakel76 | May 23, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

By the way... it's quite amusing how Reid and the Post can constantly put this stuff out there to get some of you all worked up. It's actually why he continues to do it... it's news drama to put you, and keep you, on tilt.

There are SO MANY players that skip voluntary stuff every year, yet when the season rolls around, no one gives a crap. AH will be there when he's required. This is not unprecedented.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:11 PM
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I don't know if I am buying what you are selling. I realize there are individuals who skip voluntary workouts, but that number is usually limited to the mentally challenged and contract disputers when there is a) a new coach, b) a new system, and c) said player has the largest contract on the team. You can't make excuses for this guy not being there. Think about it: this guy is the highest paid player on the team and elects to not conform to the team's wishes.

I guess if you think of things from a different perspective, we need to thank Haynesworth. This should be the final nail in the coffin of free-wheeling spending by Mr. Snyder. All he has to do is think about the money he spent on Haynesworth and what he is getting in return, and that should put an end to any thought of spending ginormous amounts of money on one ego... er, I mean one player.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

also in the past CP on the sideline gasping for air taking oxegen. player's coming up lame or hamstring issues. why because our conditioning program was a joke. why you think they fierd all of them and cleaned house because we had the worst conditioning program in the league. so get off AH back.

Posted by: dakel76 | May 23, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Reggie Wayne, for example, skips voluntary workouts every year.

So when Reggie drops a pass in a regular season game, does anyone suggest or allege that the dropped pass was the result of skipped voluntary workouts in May? Right...

AH plays on the defensive line. It's not like d-linemen have complicated responsibilities or roles. In fact, it could be easily argued that d-linemen have the least complicated role on the entire team.

Point? When AH actually shows up for mandatory workouts, I seriously doubt he'll have forgotten how to rush the passer. Sure, there will be some minor scheme stuff to learn for a d-linemen, but come on, this notion that he'll be completely lost or would take months to learn what to do is just ridiculous.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

AH was at redskins park all last year and was at every team ota's. and was in the worst shape of his career. so he decided to go and train with the guy who trained him in the past to come back in his probowl form and he is getting -hited on for it. it's funny they bought in a new training staff why because they new what AH new they were a joke. so why jump on AH for going to a real training staff.

Posted by: dakel76 | May 23, 2010 9:23 PM
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If this was just about lifting weights, I would agree with you, but the OTA's are about walking through plays, learning the system, spending time in the training room, absorbing the scheme philosophy, and building a rapport with your teammates.
Haynesworth could do his conditioning elsewhere but still show up for these voluntary sessions, and I don't think there would be anywhere near as much quibbling.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Galaga!

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 23, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

spent all this time typing this out, only to find out RSH basically said the same thing. here it is anyway.

players miss voluntary offseason stuff all the time, very true. but isn't 92's situation kinda unique? got paid more than any DT in NFL history, then a year later had the whole defense change.

hey i've never had to digest a pro defensive playbook, but i would think it would be a lot to remember.

i think those who opine that 92's dumb and lazy are off-base (played more defensive snaps than what, all but one D-lineman? and he's known as one of the smartest DT's as well as one of the most disruptive). however, those who say he's supremely selfish are apparently on point.

LFB skipped voluntary stuff all the time, but when a new head coach and a new D-coordinator with a new scheme came to town, he showed up.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

MOL!!!!!!

one of the crowning moments of pre-puberty was kicking the high score on Galaga as a throng of people (all ages) gathered around.

discovered all the fun stuff later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

spent all this time typing this out, only to find out RSH basically said the same thing. here it is anyway.

players miss voluntary offseason stuff all the time, very true. but isn't 92's situation kinda unique? got paid more than any DT in NFL history, then a year later had the whole defense change.

hey i've never had to digest a pro defensive playbook, but i would think it would be a lot to remember.

i think those who opine that 92's dumb and lazy are off-base (played more defensive snaps than what, all but one D-lineman? and he's known as one of the smartest DT's as well as one of the most disruptive). however, those who say he's supremely selfish are apparently on point.

LFB skipped voluntary stuff all the time, but when a new head coach and a new D-coordinator with a new scheme came to town, he showed up.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Calling a guy "AWOL" and a "holdout" in the offseason for non-mandatory events is absolutely ridiculous and blown out of proportion.

I doubt you come into work on the weekends when you don't have to. I bet that you'd think it were ridiculous if someone observing your work habits relentlessly bashed you as a person b/c you didn't.

Posted by: p1funk


You're right about the overblown rhetoric. He's not AWOL and certainly not a "Holdout."

But your "working on weekends" comparison isn't valid.
Here's a better comparison.

You are the highest paid employee at your company. A new boss has taken over. He has "asked" his workers to come in for the weekend because it's the only time they can learn a new system, and it will give them a competitive edge.

Everyone else comes to work. And you know they are coming to work. But you stay home, and not with a valid excuse. But because you say you know you don't like the new system you didn't show up to learn.

Are you a valued employee already? Under your previous boss, you missed quite a bit of work, and weren't fully prepared (out of shape).

In addition to not coming in to work this weekend, you are also still not preparing, as is Haynesworth by not working out with his team mates, strength and conditioning coaches.

AMaking it worse, you are in a business where workers/teammates must trust and depend on each other. I wonder what your fellow employees think of you, as they come to work voluntarily for the greater good of the team they work for.

FYI: I'm a union guy and well aware of worker abuses some companies attempt;. Belioeve me, this ain't abuse.

So bow tell me, if you are the new boss, do you really want a azzclown like Haynesworth working for your company?

There is every reason for Haynesworth to be there at voluntary and involuntary gatherings.

He has a chance to be a leader, lead by example, earn his pay, get in shape, inspire his co-workers and cut off at the pass any petty jealousy toward him.

He's a big fat jerk, and in shape or no, and despite his considerable physical gifts, this team would be better off without him. He's a walking bad example.

He is the last Big Dud from the failed Vinny/Snyder approach to football. A classic example of what's wrong with the sport, the contracts, and too many of the execs and too many of the players.

But if I'm running a company, he's the last guy I'd want in my employ,

Posted by: TheCork | May 23, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Reggie Wayne, for example, skips voluntary workouts every year.

So when Reggie drops a pass in a regular season game, does anyone suggest or allege that the dropped pass was the result of skipped voluntary workouts in May? Right...

AH plays on the defensive line. It's not like d-linemen have complicated responsibilities or roles. In fact, it could be easily argued that d-linemen have the least complicated role on the entire team.

Point? When AH actually shows up for mandatory workouts, I seriously doubt he'll have forgotten how to rush the passer. Sure, there will be some minor scheme stuff to learn for a d-linemen, but come on, this notion that he'll be completely lost or would take months to learn what to do is just ridiculous.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:35 PM
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The Colts have had the same offensive scheme for a decade. If Reggie Wayne misses some training camp, I am sure he is not missing much that he hasn't heard before.

As for complexity of the job of a defensive linemen, it is more complicated than you think. Football players can't learn something like they are studying for a written exam. They have to practice it over and over until it becomes instinct, reaction without thought. It takes a lot of reps. Haynesworth is missing the foundation and the reps right now.

It doesn't sound like he has ever played in a 3-4. The philosophy of what a defensive lineman is charged to do is completely different. He will be learning to play two different positions - end and nose - according to what I have read. Then you throw in whatever Haslett-specific tweaks to the system there might be. Trust me on this: he has a lot to learn and he is getting left behind.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

AH plays on the defensive line. It's not like d-linemen have complicated responsibilities or roles. In fact, it could be easily argued that d-linemen have the least complicated role on the entire team.

Point? When AH actually shows up for mandatory workouts, I seriously doubt he'll have forgotten how to rush the passer. Sure, there will be some minor scheme stuff to learn for a d-linemen, but come on, this notion that he'll be completely lost or would take months to learn what to do is just ridiculous.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | May 23, 2010 9:35 PM
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The Colts have had the same offensive scheme for a decade. If Reggie Wayne misses some training camp, I am sure he is not missing much that he hasn't heard before.

As for complexity of the job of a defensive linemen, it is more complicated than you think. Football players can't learn something like they are studying for a written exam. They have to practice it over and over until it becomes instinct, reaction without thought. It takes a lot of reps. Haynesworth is missing the foundation and the reps right now.

It doesn't sound like he has ever played in a 3-4. The philosophy of what a defensive lineman is charged to do is completely different. He will be learning to play two different positions - end and nose - according to what I have read. Then you throw in whatever Haslett-specific tweaks to the system there might be. Trust me on this: he has a lot to learn and he is getting left behind

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

MOL!!!!!!

one of the crowning moments of pre-puberty was kicking the high score on Galaga as a throng of people (all ages) gathered around.

discovered all the fun stuff later.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 9:42 PM
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Did you catch Google the other day when they were doing their tribute to PacMan? They had a playable PacMan game with the maze made from Google's name. Have to admit it sucked me in for an hour or so.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

the Namco Museum is a wonderful thing. you can satisfy your jones for everything from Pac-Man to Galaga from the comfort of your own gaming console. Sega's got a museum game with all the Genesis titles, too. Super Thunder Blade, Altered Beast, many more.

they're available for PS3 and X-Box 360. good times.

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Is playing nose-tackle so complicated that it takes all summer to learn it? Haslett/Shanny talk like thier version of the 3-4 is going to be revolutionary. Maybe they plan on having the nose-tackle drop in coverage? I'm not buying their b.s. If they luck up and acquire a legit nose-tackle, say during training camp, they'll throw him in the starting lineup without the guy going thru any offseason OTA's. Sounds to me that they are laying the foundation for the old "...the scheme is sound, the players just aren't executing it..." excuse.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 23, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Let,s not talk about Hayesworth any more, he is not going to come in until June, if he plays well fine. If he is a problem or you believe he is going to be a problem, then do the right thing and trade him I am tried of hearing the same thing over and over, move on.

Posted by: tljenkins1 | May 23, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Let,s not talk about Hayesworth any more, he is not going to come in until June, if he plays well fine. If he is a problem or you believe he is going to be a problem, then do the right thing and trade him I am tried of hearing the same thing over and over, move on.

Posted by: tljenkins1 | May 23, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Let,s not talk about Hayesworth any more, he is not going to come in until June, if he plays well fine. If he is a problem or you believe he is going to be a problem, then do the right thing and trade him I am tried of hearing the same thing over and over, move on.

Posted by: tljenkins1 | May 23, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I suspect that if Haynesworth missed every practice from now until the week before Game 1 he'd still play better and have more impact in that game than Daniels, Carriker, Holiday, Golston, Kemoake, and any of the other TB rejects that Allen has collected.

Posted by: coparker5 | May 23, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

actually, an update on Ma'ake Kemoeatu (sp?) would be great. how's the achilles?

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

***Rally-X post***

I crushed everyone at this game. It's like PacMan but you have a lot of gas. I played by sense of irritable bowel syndrome, but The Who declined to write a song about me. I never liked those guys anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoKZEl7tQnE

***end Rally-X post***

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 23, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, I see you're a more mature dude like me. This was one of my favorites back in high school.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 23, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedSkinHead | May 23, 2010 10:00 PM

Posted by: terrapin3 | May 23, 2010 10:09 PM

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 23, 2010 11:06 PM

old school games are great, was working on a list but got lost somewhere after Centipede.

nothing to do with you guys, but fnck it... moo-in-law was supposed to ship out tomorrow, and decided to stay through Wednesday.

if the weather holds, maybe there will be opportunities to graze the grass, drink a few gallons, and dream of games played on turf in the fall.

this is one sad cow for now.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3572562171_2292e8c27a.jpg

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 23, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah LH, I'm 42 but my gaming and popular culture age is about 113. I played Rally-X because it's the only thing the older drunk kids weren't playing.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 23, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Galaga, Gyruss and Commando for me. Later, Golden Axe.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 23, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Think about it though. Besides the arrival of the new coach, the conspicuous absence of the $100 million man is the number one story of this off season, trumps the McNabb trade, who after all is under contract for only one season and isn't guaranteed $40 million.

Really there are huge problems confronting Snyder and Shanallen on Haynesworth. They can't trade him for anything less than fair value, certainly not for less than one second round pick. To do so would only send a message around the league that the Redskins are still suckers; for players, the message would be, come to DC, get paid, then go somewhere else if you don't like it here.

Now if AH isn't traded, then they have to deal with him. Of course if he comes to camp in shape and ready to be part of the team, all is forgiven. But it's fairly obvious he's gonna be a problem: he's a prima donna. So what do they do?

I truly believe they should make an example out of him, for the long term benefit of the team. Play him if he wants to play, but only play him at NT, even if they could work him in as a tackle in a 4-3 or DE in a 3-4. Work him hard in practice. Criticize him publicly a lot (you can already see this happening). And, if necessary, sit his ass or suspend him and try to set him up to get some of the $ back.

Not because the Redskins need the money but again, because they desperately need to change the tone here and dramatize the break with the past. No more double standards, no more late nite confabs with the owner, no more steak dinners or trips to Aspen. It's play Mike Shanahan's way or the highway. I will love it. It's what's called for here; it's absolutely necessary. And I'm 100% pro-union. This guy is a jerk: make an example out of him.

Posted by: Pepper5 | May 24, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

A creative management team and coaching staff can extract great value from a resource as committed and motivated as Mr. "Oh-the-pain-I'm-injured-please-help-me-off-the-field-now-may-I-please-have-my-bag-of-Cheetos":

1. Human safety cone to reserve Donovan McNabb's parking space at Redskin's Park.
2. Tackling dummy - emphasis on "dummy".
3. Towel/Water boy
4. Human blimp for aerial coverage of home games
5. Human easel for coaching staff dry erase board.
6. Human projection screen for coaching film sessions
7. Bell hop for team's away games.
8. Human radiant heater on the sidelines during winter games.
9. Human moon bounce to entertain children at team PR events.
10. Human futon for Dan Snyder's office.

...with Fat Albert's gifted abilities and dogmatic work ethic, the possibilities seem endless.

Posted by: flyrodder911 | May 24, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

albert is this decades dana stubblefield/dan wilkerson. honestly for redskins fans that claim to have supported the redskins for years you guys sure don't learn from the skins' history. the best thing this organization can do is trade him during training camp when the injuries start to pile up. if we dont he's just going to be a bust here, who's numbers will gradually drop until he's trade value is nothing. the defense will create more turnovers and havoc this season with or without albert.

Posted by: culprit59 | May 24, 2010 2:46 AM | Report abuse

albert is this decades dana stubblefield/dan wilkerson. honestly for redskins fans that claim to have supported the redskins for years you guys sure don't learn from the skins' history. the best thing this organization can do is trade him during training camp when the injuries start to pile up. if we dont he's just going to be a bust here, who's numbers will gradually drop until he's trade value is nothing. the defense will create more turnovers and havoc this season with or without albert.

Posted by: culprit59 | May 24, 2010 2:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm sick of Haynesworths bellyaching.... and that's a BIIIIIG belly!

Posted by: pd2710 | May 24, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Wow...looks like I didn't miss much over the weekend. Just the 1,088th Haynesworth non-update update.

I did see an interesting post on ESPN.com though...someone raised the possibility of the Skins trading AH for Richard Seymour straight up. The Raiders aren't likely to do that since they LOVE Seymour, but it would be a good move for all parties involved. Seymour is a beast as a 3-4 DE, Haynesworth gets to be the focal point of a 4-3 at DT again, and both teams get guys who fit what defense they run. Seems to make sense all around.

Which, of course, means it probably won't happen...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 24, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse

Defensive tackle is hardly the most cerebral position on the field. It'll take him about a half-hour to catch up.

And it's a good thing DT is the kind of position a monkey could play, because our $100 million man ain't no genius.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | May 24, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

AH is the most selfish, arrogant player I have ever seen. What a piece of crap! I remember the first time I saw him being interviewed on the sidelines during preseason last year by Kelly Johnson and thinking how rude and arrogant he was - like he was annoyed to have to talk to her. That was when he was popular here too..THAT BUM IS GONE, BOOK IT!! In the end I hope it teaches Dan Snyder not to throw money at other teams stars. AH is the equivalent of a woman marrying for money and being a cheater and sorry ass wife and she gets the goods...SCREW HIM AND MOVE ON

Posted by: scottmando | May 24, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Albert will show up at the mandatory training camp because otherwise he doesn't get paid and no more all-you-can-eat buffets for Fat Albert.

Posted by: nativedc | May 24, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Fat Albert is guaranteeing he will be the highest paid cannon fodder in the history of the world. What an idiot! Only a man lacking judgment would continue to bite the hand that feeds him. Make all of these mandatory and make it a 12 month job. All the rest of us have to work 12 months, why not these entertainers?

Posted by: KDSmallJr | May 24, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth reminds me of Baby Huey. Albert would see his peers playing, and would immediately get excited. Whenever Albert tried to involve himself in the activities of his peers, like play football, he would often inadvertently cause more problems, and as a result Albert's teammates would drive him away through trickery. A hungry fox would show up, feigning friendship with Albert and setting traps along the way, all of which would prove ineffective on Albert and/or backfire on the fox. At first Albert was blissfully unaware of the fox's true agenda, until Albert gets traded to Detroit.

Posted by: mlombre69 | May 24, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: wireman65
Optimism is a necessary trait for a Redskins fan, at least for the last twelve years.

And what has optimism gotten us for the last twelve years? It's time to wake from your slumber!

BOYCOTT $NYDER OR BE OPTIMISTIC!
ONE MIGHT CHANGE THINGS,THE OTHER KEEPS THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE!!

Posted by: hessone | May 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse


Let's do the math: 32 mil @ 12 games = 2,666,666.66 per game. $nyder wants your money to pay this loser that much per game. Think about that the next time you buy a McNabb jersey. I can't believe folks still give money to $nyder. Jeez

Posted by: hessone | May 24, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins should get Albert his own bench made from rough lumber. It will probably take the rest of his career to get it smooth but at least they would have something to show for their investment.

Posted by: vwallen@bellatlantic.net | May 24, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Catch Up??? Catch Up !!! - How about he just catches a bus and leaves - I'm sick of the big galoot - he's not worth the time, effort or frustration - if he was, wouldn't there be other teams interetsed in getting him? You should see some of the articles written about him in the Jacksonville press when there was talk about him going there - the guy has become toxic - a locker room cancer that other teams don't want.

Posted by: whelms1 | May 24, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Phillip Daniels is just mad because his 37 year old arse farted dust this morning! Stop Hating! Everyone knows the Skins will be no good witout AH! ( Just ask AC and Arakpo.. how good life will be withougt AH)

Posted by: rlomax67 | May 24, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

No, you won't be fine Haslett. you got a bunch of old linemen. Your dline is nothing without Haynesworth. If you want him here, make the minicamps Mandatory.

Posted by: harbirsingh
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They cant make them mandatory.
Duh.

Amazing how many people watch a game they dont even know anything about.

Posted by: kreator6996 | May 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Eff Fat Albert.

Posted by: DCFanatic | May 24, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Won`t you come home Big Albert? Won`t you come home? Big Albert won`t you PLEASE come home? Now dont make me sing again!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | May 24, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they just fire the basxard? He won't'be worth squat anyway.

Posted by: sameolddoc | May 24, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they just fire the basxard? He won't'be worth squat anyway.

Posted by: sameolddoc | May 24, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will be able to trade Haynesworth for good value once another team's stud goes down in minicamp/pre-season and they are suddenly undermanned. It is likely to happen somewhere. When it does, just hope we can find a sucker like Miami found us when it traded us Jason Taylor.

Posted by: SammyT1 | May 24, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

It really is pretty simple isn't it? If AH comes into camo in shape, learns the playbook, competes for a position and wins it, then he was the best man for the job and he plays. If he does not do one or more of hose things, then the person who does plays and the hefty one sits or plays on the second team until we or another team need an injury replacement or he catches up physically, mentally, or emotionally. The money really has no bearing once you are on the field. From our standpoint once the coin is flipped whoever is on the field has to perform and we really don't care if they got 10 million for the game or 10 bucks. I believe one thing right now and that is Shanahan will have the best people lined up on Sunday no matter what they make.

The best case scenario is he shows up in shape with a good attitude, and it takes him a little longer in training camp to learn the scheme. So instead of barely playing and pronouncing himself ready for the season after playing parts of two quarters in the first two preseason games like most vets do, he may actually have to play in parts of three games. Worst case is he comes in out of shape and/or with bad attitude, fakes an injury and rides the bike all training camp and can only be used as a 3rd down pass rusher or not at all when the regular season starts. He will not be cut. that is just dumb. He may sit the bench or be under utilized, or go on the IR or traded, but not cut. Personally I think if he shows up in great shape, all will be forgiven just like it was with Portis, Reaper, Moss, Springs, and everyone else that has worked out on their own the last 4 years.

Should he be here, of course he should. All his team mates are here because they were 4-12 and they want to make sure it doesn't happen again. You can't make the OTA's mandatory so he doesn't have to show up. But he is obligated to be in shape and know the playbook when he does get here, however he gets there. What will be more interesting is how he handles the medis scrutiny when he arrives. He hasn't been the most under control guy in the past and this will be 10x worse than anything he has gone through here so far.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | May 24, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

We all should think of one thing, this is a business. Even the greatest of great players have done what Albert is doing, including mr. Hypocrat himself, Lavar Arrington. Players think of this as a business first, while we the fan think of it as Team sport. Within the confines of a business, it is a team sport....get with the program folks. Sorry, fat Albert is lazy and the management who brought him here have to deal with the mess. While back at the ranch, we the FANS should relax and enjoy the camps like we always to do every year.

Posted by: maz3 | May 24, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

We all should think of one thing, this is a business. Even the greatest of great players have done what Albert is doing, including mr. Hypocrat himself, Lavar Arrington. Players think of this as a business first, while we the fan think of it as Team sport. Within the confines of a business, it is a team sport....get with the program folks. Sorry, fat Albert is lazy and the management who brought him here have to deal with the mess. While back at the ranch, we the FANS should relax and enjoy the camps like we always to do every year.

Posted by: maz3 | May 24, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Last year for fat albert, I counted 29 knees, 10 flat-on-his-backs, 4 carted-off-the-fields and an indeterminate number of just-being-gassed. How anybody thinks this out-of-shape clown can wreak havoc is a mystery to me.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | May 24, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: impervious99 | May 25, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Trade him back to the Titans for Chris Johnson.

Send Portis to the Ravens for Gaither.

Make it so.

(Wakes up from wonderful dream)

Posted by: stevebeagrie | May 26, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

why are the skins organization kissing this clowns a$$, because you (fools) paid him most of his salary. if you don't attend you don't play, you don't play you don't get paid, plan and simple.

Posted by: geg5100 | May 30, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

why is the skins organization kissing this clowns a$$, because you (fools) paid him most of his salary. if you don't attend you don't play, you don't play you don't get paid, plan and simple.

Posted by: geg5100 | May 30, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

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