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Injured Redskins sit out practice

At the start of Monday's practice -- the first since the team broke training camp last week -- the Redskins were without a couple of key components.

Quarterback Donovan McNabb, wearing a protective boot earlier on his left foot, attended practice but did not wear pads and did not participate in the portion open to media. He'd traded his boot for what appeared to be a protective air cast.

Fullback Mike Sellers also did not appear to be participating, and receiver Malcolm Kelly was again working on the side.

Safety Kareem Moore was not present, and Reed Doughty appears to be the early favorite to take his spot atop the depth chart.

Left tackle Trent Williams, who suffered a forearm contusion Saturday against Baltimore, appeared to be participating in practice.

Albert Haynesworth, who missed nearly all of the team's final three full practice sessions, participated in position drills with the rest of the defensive linemen and appeared to be operating at full-speed.

By Rick Maese  |  August 23, 2010; 1:07 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth , Malcolm Kelly , Trent Williams  
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Increase the roster to 60 then goto a 2 preseason and 18 game format.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Dropping the kids off at the pool right now (literally). Thank goodness for laptops and wireless internet.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 23, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

From what I understand, you can't do "a Terrel Owens / Keyshawn Johnson type situation" anymore.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse
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Why not?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see practicing at practice...

Posted by: gixxer998 | August 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

As for the medical issue that kept AH out, Tom Brady has been on the injury report every week for the last 7 years and nobody knows what is wrong with Brady. Posted by: psps23
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I am going to have to disagree with that comparison. Shanny didn't disclose the full extent of the injury, but it wasn't to give his team the competitive advantage. If you don't know whether Brady has bruised knee and can run or a sprained ACL and is more immobile, that can affect your game plan. If AH has a headache or that long named thing that he had, it doesn't affect how you play him because he would have to recover from both to play.

I don't have a problem with the fact that Shanny is holding his players accountable, my probem is that he is going to the press and not keeping it in house. Publicly embarrasing one of your players is never good. Continually doing so is just dumb.

I believe that his goal is to build a winning team where everyone buys into his system. His strategy with getting AH to do so isn't working, but he hasn't changed his strategy.

AH is on the team and (probably) isn't going anywhere. He is not working well with the coach. If it is Shanny's team, it is his responsibility to get AH to agree with him. Shanny's pride is not allowing him conform his style to meet the challenge he is facing. He is the kid trying to pound a square peg in a round hole. He may get it through, but both the peg and the hole will be damaged to the point that they can't be used.

Posted by: ronjon629 | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Plus, Tom Brady is a giant d0uchebag so I'm sure every week he suffers from super-d0uche-syndrome.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 23, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARESSSSSSS!!!!! send him home already shanny....

repost:

Tyrone Carter is a solid pickup...played a lot in Pittsburgh, particularly when Polamalu was out. He seems to be around the ball quite a bit, which is always a good thing at safety. Also plays both safety spots well...love this signing for a one or two year stopgap.

Hate that we got rid of Draft though...I'm still not convinced that our LB depth is where it needs to be and having him as the 3rd or 4th ILB could only help. I guess it shouldn't be a shock that a team that doesn't like using the draft should get rid of a guy with the name Draft too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 23, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, don't really think there's much of a huge difference between unproven late round Moore and veteran of the system Carter. Obviously Moore has the upside but for now, I'll take a guy that has been getting regular playing time in Pittsburgh for 5 seasons as a fill in. My bigger concern that has seemed pretty glaring for two preseason games now is the Carter/Alexander linebacker experiment. They've seemed slow and out of place in coverage in both games.....hoping they either make a move or give Chris Wilson a shot.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I cant really agree with this. When Polamalu went down the steelers D looked very ordinary all the sudden, he is clearly the largest factor to that D's successes.
I would much prefer that we walk the walk and try out some of the younger guys. I already know what Doughty can do as a free saftey, i don't like it much.
Lendy Holmes would be a kid to look at right now. He can play the FS spot as he has played it in college on top of playing corner back in college where he displayed some great hands.
Every one keeps saying we need to get younger but then applaud signing vets like Carter. Give the kids a chance...

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you that it's in Snyder's best interest for Shanahan to succeed. On the other hand, the Skins still make more money than any other professional sports franchise in the country. Their estimated annual revenue is $345M (Forbes). The next closest is the Yankees, at around $320M per year. And this is AFTER 5 straight losing seasons!

Winning will fix everything, of course. But short of that, Snyder knows that bringing in the next big name like Deion Sanders and Jason Taylor (I hope I'm not adding McNabb and Shanahan to this list in a few years) will keep fans interested.

Posted by: Alan4

My basic point is that Danny has gone from a situation when demand far exceeded supply ... to a situation where supply and demand are pretty similar. Go a bit further down that curve, where supply clearly exceeds demand, and revenues can drop quite a bit.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 23, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Media: Shanahan/Haynesworth Tensions Continue to Surface Because Media Won't Stop Asking About It

Posted by: freakzilla | August 23, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Why not?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:21 PM

I think the union b!tched about it and it was bargained out. I'm not 100% sure about that, but I recall something to that effect being mentioned.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Sween, Heyer was not a problem Saturday night. He was especially good in pass pro. Hicks was a problem all night while he was in. Read the observations linked above about LJ's runs. And Brown was no great shakes when he was in there.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 23, 2010 12:00 PM

You saw a problem btwn Rabach/Hicks. I saw a problem with Hicks/Heyer. Somewhere in btwn there must be some common source of concerns ... hmmm ... if only I knew how to use one of those logical deduction thingies ...

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Why is nobody concerned about this McNabb boot? Is it nothing serious or is it something?

Posted by: FedorEm | August 23, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Was Anthony Armstrong here before? Was he in camp last year or maybe the practice squad? Or is my brain confusing things with Anthony Aldridge? Armstrong's name (but not his recent performance) seems familiar.

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Why is nobody concerned about this McNabb boot? Is it nothing serious or is it something?

Posted by: FedorEm | August 23, 2010 1:36 PM

It's just a "headache".

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 23, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

'Why is nobody concerned about this McNabb boot? Is it nothing serious or is it something?'

Because they're just nice looking boots. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: demonj21 | August 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"I am going to have to disagree with that comparison. Shanny didn't disclose the full extent of the injury, but it wasn't to give his team the competitive advantage. If you don't know whether Brady has bruised knee and can run or a sprained ACL and is more immobile, that can affect your game plan. If AH has a headache or that long named thing that he had, it doesn't affect how you play him because he would have to recover from both to play.

Posted by: ronjon629 | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse"

This specific instance it may not have mattered whether Shanahan fully disclosed AH's injury, but in overall strategy, the philosophy needs to remain intact for every injury regardless of specific circumstances.

If he fully discloses certain injuries but remains cryptic about others, then you know that the cryptic injuries are attempting to be hidden for a reason. If he treats all injuries in the same underplayed manner, then you have no idea what to expect from your opponent.

I think Shanahan could have done better if he simply didn't state anything at all about the injury and just let the media guess, but like I said, AH's bruised ego comes purely from his own reputation betraying him. Had Shanahan said Andre Carter or London Fletcher were sitting out because of headaches instead of the full condition, I highly doubt they would have gone crying to the media about being thrown under the bus.

Posted by: psps23 | August 23, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I think the union b!tched about it and it was bargained out. I'm not 100% sure about that, but I recall something to that effect being mentioned.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse
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Larry Johnson was suspended under the same clause last year, so... I don't think anything like that ever came to fruition.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Poopy_McPoop: "Dropping the kids off at the pool right now (literally). Thank goodness for laptops and wireless internet."

Did your kids leave any floaters behind? Nasty submarines that make lifeguards close pools?

Posted by: periculum | August 23, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the Redskins? You all better sell that bandwagon to the junk man. The parts are worth more than it would cost to fix it at present.

9/12
Cowboys 35
Redskins 3

Posted by: PampaTex

PamperTex!!Where you been man?We miss you Pamper!Of all the trolls that come thru here you're my favorite cuz I just love saying PamperTex!!Now get the hell on and we'll see you in about 3 weeks.Tell Mrs.Pamper and the lil Pamplets we said hey!


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Posted by: smittdiddy | August 23, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong looks like a keeper. Although I would temper my enthusiasm as he was going against 5th stringer that will more than likely not even be on the Ravens roster during the regular season.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Was Anthony Armstrong here before? Was he in camp last year or maybe the practice squad? Or is my brain confusing things with Anthony Aldridge? Armstrong's name (but not his recent performance) seems familiar.

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse
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In my mind, Armstrong needs to be on the final roster. I could see him as starting with Moss or at least as his primary sub.

I haven't seen anything from Galloway or Thomas to suggest any other outcome.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong looks like a keeper. Although I would temper my enthusiasm as he was going against 5th stringer that will more than likely not even be on the Ravens roster during the regular season.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 23, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse
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Armstrong has been in the early rotation regularly. He's not just beating scrubs out there.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This specific instance it may not have mattered whether Shanahan fully disclosed AH's injury, but in overall strategy, the philosophy needs to remain intact for every injury regardless of specific circumstances.

If he fully discloses certain injuries but remains cryptic about others, then you know that the cryptic injuries are attempting to be hidden for a reason. If he treats all injuries in the same underplayed manner, then you have no idea what to expect from your opponent.

I think Shanahan could have done better if he simply didn't state anything at all about the injury and just let the media guess, but like I said, AH's bruised ego comes purely from his own reputation betraying him. Had Shanahan said Andre Carter or London Fletcher were sitting out because of headaches instead of the full condition, I highly doubt they would have gone crying to the media about being thrown under the bus.

Posted by: psps23
When Shanny talks about Fat Al he can't hide his obvious disdain for the guy. He should have answered the question of AH sitting out of practices like most coaches do. They give some vague answer and tell the media that when he is healthy enough to practice he will be out there. They usually say it is not serious and they will only be out a day or two. When he said he did not know why he was not practicing and characterized it as headaches he came across as I don't know why that sissy isnt out there. Thus pissing of AH. I don't disagree with how Shanny is handlin AH just how Shanny is talking about him to the media. Leave the details in house.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

@PSPS23 Do we know Shanny's established method for talking about injuries? I didn't care enough to pay attention in that level of detail to how he did things in Denver. If he downplays all injuries like that, it is one thing; but I tend to agree with AH that there was some vitrol to the classification of the ailment

Posted by: ronjon629 | August 23, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Why is nobody concerned about this McNabb boot?

Posted by: FedorEm | August 23, 2010 1:36 PM

Maybe because he's not the punter or kicker.

Posted by: dcsween | August 23, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong was on the P Sqaud last year.....

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Posted by: 4thFloor | August 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"Albert Haynesworth, who missed nearly all of the team's final three full practice sessions, participated in position drills with the rest of the defensive linemen and appeared to be operating at full-speed."

Oh, so you mean he's fine and practicing and players are mildly content with the situation? Cool! Let it the eff go MEDIA!!!

Kareem Moore's injury is a serious concern though, just heard he may be available for week one though.


Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | August 23, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Increase the roster to 60 then goto a 2 preseason and 18 game format.Posted by: Diesel44"

This is an interesting idea and I imagine has been considered at the Exec Committee level. Another that I've heard involves linking teams up for a number of controlled scimmages instead of preseason games, with the idea of reducing the injury toll. I'm sure the player's association would support the larger roster and the clubs would love to see more regular season games.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"Kareem Moore's injury is a serious concern though, just heard he may be available for week one though.Posted by:Bigfoot_has_a_posse"

I'm sure it would be a bigger concern if the team didn't have Doughty and Horton. There was some complaining earlier about how they weren't really free safeties by inclination, but from my perspective they're not classic weak safeties either. Their main strength is their ability to fill in at a respectable level at either position. Tyrone Carter is of the same stripe. Now if one of those go down, we have a problem.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

"He should have answered the question of AH sitting out of practices like most coaches do. They give some vague answer and tell the media that when he is healthy enough to practice he will be out there. They usually say it is not serious and they will only be out a day or two. When he said he did not know why he was not practicing and characterized it as headaches he came across as I don't know why that sissy isnt out there. Thus pissing of AH. I don't disagree with how Shanny is handlin AH just how Shanny is talking about him to the media. posted by srobert1117"

First time I've heard a coach criticized for providing too much info to the fans -- it's usually the opposite. I do agree that Shanahan is frustrated with Albert and sometimes lets it show, not so much in his words but in his tone. Still, it's the sort of thing many other respected coaches -- Parcells, Belichick, Bill Walsh, Ditka, on backwards in time to Lombardi, Chuck Noll and George Allen -- have been accused of. Certainly Andy Reid and Tom Coughlin have made use of the media to prod a player, and not just on game performance, either.

Washington fans were spoiled by the saintly Gibbs, who managed to win while staying on the golden path. Still, he's in a minority. Just might be that what we're seeing is a good head coach in action, and it's been so long we don't recognize it.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 23, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong should get a chance to go against the Jets first string defense. If it is truly about competition, he should start over Galloway.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 23, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, don't agree with Samson151. Coaches are to protect their players against the outside world, while giving them hell inside the team as called for. The "headache" comment was five pounds of fresh steak for the media guys, and they made the most of it. Can't blame Haynesworth in the least for his comments. Shanahan's old enough to know better.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 23, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

"Coaches are to protect their players against the outside world, while giving them hell inside the team as called for."

This is the anti-Lombardi philosophy. Lombardi was famous for lashing out at his players in all manner of public view, all the while praising and building up their confidence behind closed doors. It's meant to hold players accountable for their actions (players are much less likely to make a conscious mistake if they know they'll be called out for it without regard) while still developing and instilling personal confidence between the coach and his players.

Regardless, this wasn't Shanahan criticizing Haynesworth. It was Shanahan downplaying an injury for practice. This is on Haynesworth for letting his ego get in the way of what's best for him and for the team.

McNabb sat out of practice today. If asked what his issue was, my guess is Shanahan will give some sort of downplayed answer insinuating that his injury is nothing and that McNabb is fine. Guaranteed McNabb doesn't go crying to the media about how Shanahan is trying to make him look bad by downplaying his injury.

Posted by: psps23 | August 23, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

It's about time Shanny bowed down to Haynesworth. He's is far and above the most talented player on this squad. Shanny is learning that now.

Posted by: AaronDavistheLizardKing | August 24, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

can anyone tell me when was the last time Mcnabb wasn't out at least 30% of the season ? The same when we signed Deon sanders he only started 5 games for Dallas the previous year ? Then explain to me how this are going to all of a sudden be different for mcnabb this year?

Posted by: thomasuras | August 24, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

McNabb misses practice,well hell he's been missing recievers since he's got here!!!!!!

Posted by: gwest1 | August 24, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

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