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Posted at 3:33 PM ET, 12/ 6/2010

Mike Shanahan will talk about Haynesworth Wednesday

By Rick Maese

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan declined to discuss Albert Haynesworth's role with the team or his future with the organization on Monday.

"Before I address any questions about Albert, I want to sit down and talk with Albert myself over the next couple of days," Shanahan said as he opened his weekly news conference at Redskins Park.

Asked if Haynesworth might be released this season, Shanahan said he'll talk about Haynesworth with the media on Wednesday. Between now and then, Shanahan said, he intends to sit down and have a conversation with Haynesworth. Shanahan said that meeting could take place Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday.

"There's a few scenarios present," he said.

Shanahan deactivated Haynesworth Sunday for the game at the New York Giants, saying the two-time all-pro was sick last Friday at practice and had a poor practice the day before.

Shanahan said he doesn't know the exact nature of Haynesworth's illness -- "He was sick," he said -- and said he didn't regret not telling his team about the decision until the morning of the game.

The decision to sit Haynesworth has spurred media reports, some saying he'll be leaving Washington this week and others saying he'll stick around. Shanahan wouldn't address any of them.

"There could be a lot of people saying a lot of different things," he said.

With Haynesworth watching from the sidelines, the Redskins struggled in all facets of the game in their 31-7 loss to the Giants in New Meadowlands Stadium, falling to 5-7 on the season and essentially dashing their playoff hopes.

The Redskins play the Tampa Bay Bucs this Sunday, and if Shanahan knows whether Haynesworth will be a Redskin for the start of that game, he's not giving any hints right now.

"I know you guys want to ask the question 50 different ways... but we'll talk more about it on Wednesday," he said.

By Rick Maese  | December 6, 2010; 3:33 PM ET
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Comments

Haynesworth wont be here by Wednesday

Posted by: BenchCampbell | December 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I see 4 options:

Cut him.

Keep him and send him home for the rest of the year, trade him in off season.

Keep him and resolve to play him/let him stay around the team if Shanahan likes what he hears in the meeting.

Keep him and treat him like we have all year, ie he's week to week depending on his attitude.

I really think Shanahan will not cut him, but send him home for the rest of the season and then unload him for whatever he can get after the season.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

matt, comparing this year to last, I'm not sure I see a big difference....not trying to be negative but have they really taken that big a step from last year?? I dont' see a victory the rest of the year, so lets say they finish 5-11...um...is that really what we're looking for??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse
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No no of course not. But I believe wins tend to be a lagging indicator of organizational health.

Look at the Vikings. That team was built from the inside out like any perennial contender, and then they had made all the classic Redskin mistakes of snapping up free agents and stars long before the wheels fell off. Now Ziggy Wilf gets the dreaded 'I'd hate to play for an owner that doesn't want to spend money to win' vote of confidence.

Same thing with the Cowboys. Jones was running out of Parcell's guys long before the collapse.

But I look at the Chiefs and Bucs and see their records last year were worse than ours, yet they were already on the organizational mend, so to speak. This year neither is ready to win the Super Bowl, but they are definitely on the right track.

So I say give it a year or two. The wins will come.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 6, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I say wipe the slate clean, go 3-13 a few years in a row, stockpile picks, and rebuild from the bottom up.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2010 3:00 PM |

That idea has merit. 3-13 next year might bring the choice of either Cam Newton or Matt Barkman to draft as the fran QB the Skins so badly need. Newt could be the next Roeth - bigfoot with an arm. The prob is that neither MS or DS might be able to stomach going through a hell like that - both are proud men with big egos.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

i rather cut hasslet and keep haynesworth and play a 4-3 defense where the WHOLE defense use to dominate.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | December 6, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

... and then unload him for whatever he can get after the season.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:41 PM |

You mean the proverbial "box of used condoms"?

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 6, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

A part of me is hoping Haynesworth is reading right now, sweating bullets, making phone calls, nervously swiveling around in his chair that wobbles -- from the accommodation of his massive girth --, and crying for fear of losing his Job. the DMV is full of real people, and real football players. Real recognize real, and no one looks at Haynesworth familiar around here.

Go to NoVa, go to Southern Maryland, I guarantee you if you took players from our area who graduated high school 3 4 years ago, and get them into game shape, they could play better then Haynesworth... probably our entire team in general. I wish the Skins held open tryouts, cause I know some guys who are like trained gorillas. They sucked in school, but football always clicked for them. Monsters man.

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

This presser by Shanahan is unreal. He says "Not talking about Albert until I talk to Albert." Then Reid and company pepper him about Albert for 5 minutes.

Oh and finally, a non Albert question.....but wait for it.....a Devin Thomas question!

And Shanahan refers to him as "Derrick" Thomas in giving his answer.

Does not get any better than this!

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Just get him away from the locker room and someone will give us a late pick for him at some point.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:29 PM

Remember...

That ship has sailed.....the most we can get is a ham sandwich...we can use him to try to move 6 spots up in the 6th round....Nothing more than that.

Because HAynesworth is going to have to pick his next team for him to do well. He just isn't going to show up a new man to a team he didn't want to go to.......STAMPED...

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth won't be here by Wednesday


Wow!: this begs for a poll.

Select the biggest FA/trade/personnel letdown of 2010:

a. Randy Moss traded to the Vikings for a 3rd rounder, then released

b. Albert Haynesworth benching/possible release months after receiving a $21 million dollar payout

c. Brett Favre begged to come back only to wind up on his back more than ever

d. all of the above

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I think this team is capable of 3-13.
Don't ask much more.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | December 6, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I just hope they have a tape of the Shanahan Haynesworth convo up on YouTube. I don't care how you get it -- just get it. I bet that Haynesworth would much rather have a conversation with Zorn than with Shanahan.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse


No, this is wrong. Both AH and Snyder are losers. AH is not admired and respected in this league. He got a big payday from Snyder, but he'll never get another big payday. He had a shot at the HOF. He doesn't now. These were two fools with their money.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 6, 2010 3:45 PM |

I think you know what I meant beep, between AH and snyder, however, your point is well taken.


Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I see two things:

Straight out cut

Or Deactivation for the rest of the season/suspeneded for conduct......To be released at the begining of next season if no viable trade partner flourishes....

I say option #2...

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know. But trading him for ANYTHING is perhaps better than nothing. Although I would love to see him go through waivers and end up with the Bills or Panthers. That alone would make cutting him worth it.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

RE: Mike Shanahan will talk about Haynesworth Wednesday

And Albert Haynesworth will contradict Shanahan on Wedensday, Thursday... and Friday -- before feigning complete ignorance of what all of the fuss is about.

They may reach some sort of temporary truce by Friday... and as Saturday dawns, several other members of the team will chime in with their own thoughts and impressions -- making a bunch of promises about fighting hard, playing with pride -- and doing everything they can to bring home a victory.

And on Sunday, Tampa Bay will make them all look like the jackasses they really are -- once again.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 6, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I think you know what I meant beep, between AH and snyder, however, your point is well taken.

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM

Nope...wrong again...no one ever knows what you really mean...from now on I'll call you Wishy Washy Two Faced Tissue Skin Hessone...yep that sounds about right.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 6, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Although I would love to see him go through waivers and end up with the Bills or Panthers. That alone would make cutting him worth it.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 3:56 PM

I don't think he would go through waivers -- I think with as many years as he has in the league he becomes a free agent. If I'm right, he would then be able to bargain with teams and get another signing bonus.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 6, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Go to NoVa, go to Southern Maryland, I guarantee you if you took players from our area who graduated high school 3 4 years ago, and get them into game shape, they could play better then Haynesworth... probably our entire team in general. I wish the Skins held open tryouts, cause I know some guys who are like trained gorillas. They sucked in school, but football always clicked for them. Monsters man.

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 6, 2010 3:51 PM

Great idea wishbone.

We have a defense loaded with first round picks who can't get it done, but you think if we rounded up the local trained gorilla's for general admission tryouts we'd be on our way.

Did your parents have any kids that lived?

Posted by: edvar | December 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Alexander and Coleman have been ineffective as OLBs. Neither Coleman nor Orakpo get to play hand in the dirt next to Haynesworth.

Rocky Mac, at 230 has been moved inside where 260 is better for endurance.

Fletcher, a world class MLB is now a 3-4 LB.

'Skins have NO effective NG.

Can't stop the run means you can's stop the pass either.

This team is in a world of hurt.

Posted by: TheCork | December 6, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I must have missed it. When did we resign Monty Coleman?

Posted by: frediefritz | December 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This team is made up of a few talented guys who are inconsistent, a couple more who don't work hard, and a whole bunch of players who work hard but aren't very good.

Posted by: jcabana | December 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

--

Actually, it appears this team is made up of a few familiar names who might be able sell a few club level seats and some jerseys -- for example, the cast of the past summer's "R U IN" advertising campaign -- and a whole bunch of other team's practice squad cast offs, over-the-hill and oft-injured reclaimation projects, and other roster-fillers. In essence, lots of sizzle but no steak.

And then we tie up fully one-fourth of the annual payroll in a select two or three players... trade away most of our draft picks... and fail to develop the rest.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

--
First of all, how different is what you said from what I said? I wouldn't call all those cast-offs "sizzle", by the way -- I don't think too many of us expected Lichtensteiger or Kemoeatu to light the world on fire.

Second, your description of the team's behavior in the past. If Shanahan and Allen can be credited with anything, it's that they *haven't* spent cash like it was Monopoly money to rebuild this team. On the contrary, they've only doled out affordable, manageable contracts when they've been in a position to do so.

The only "big-name" player they got this offseason was McNabb, and that was because they felt they needed a proven QB to have a shot of being competitive in the meantime. Once this season is over, they will be even better off fiscally than they were last offseason. Actually, they will probably have less money tied up in big-name players than they have in about 8 years.

Posted by: jcabana | December 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't know beep, Moss is a 12 year guy and he had to pass through waivers...pretty sure AH would too.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

They shouldve made the 3-4 switch gradually. We have a very good 4-3 d line featuring haynesworth, Carter, and orakpo. Instead we've started every game with a poor 3-4 d line featuring nobody.

They sold it as a hybrid in the off season just as so many bought into LJ beating out Portis ?!? LJ couldn't beat out James Davis apparently.

I'm confident shanahan, givin enough time, can build a quality roster just the way he wants it. But he's done a poor job using the talent handed to him.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 6, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

They shouldve made the 3-4 switch gradually. We have a very good 4-3 d line featuring haynesworth, Carter, and orakpo. Instead we've started every game with a poor 3-4 d line featuring nobody.

They sold it as a hybrid in the off season just as so many bought into LJ beating out Portis ?!? LJ couldn't beat out James Davis apparently.

I'm confident shanahan, givin enough time, can build a quality roster just the way he wants it. But he's done a poor job using the talent handed to him.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 6, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Am I nuts or did pabrian just say something positive about Mike Shanahan?

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Campbell 78.1
mcNabb 75.2

yeah so I guess it wasn't Campbells fault haters, we suck for at least 5 years

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

That's better haha

Posted by: PlayAction | December 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"Or Deactivation for the rest of the season/suspeneded for conduct......"

Why would you reward a guy for being a fat slob by cutting him and letting him go to a team that has a chance to win a SB with a few games left???

I wouldn't.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 6, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Campbell sucks!

Posted by: BenchCampbell | December 6, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

This team continues to put its best effort towards earning the mantle "NFL's Most Dysfunctional Franchise".

Who knew players headed to the Raiders were actually going to a more stable franchise?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Why wouldn't Cam Newton be in this years NFL draft?

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 6, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton = better and taller Vince Young.

Incredible college QB but will have a tough time adjusting to the NFL style.

He might be able to do it but that Auburn system isn't exactly a pro-style offense. Gonna' take him longer than a QB coming out of a pro-style system.

Too much of a risk, I think.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 6, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jcabana | December 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

--

Understood and not quibbling at all.

Snyder funds an annual payroll in the $200 million or so range -- of which a large share goes to two or three marquee players.

Snyder doesn't appear to care how the rest of the money is spent -- so long as they can fill seats and turn a profit. And once the roster is set -- there are very few other changes or expenditures.

That basic model hasn't changed in the last several years -- whether we're talking about major investmetns for the likes of Jason Taylor, Deon Sanders or Albert Haynesworth -- or the chum that makes up the rest of the team.

And once one of the starters goes down, the team starts to scour the waiver wires and practice squad rosters for someone they can get in here fast -- and cheap -- especially cheap.

That hasn't changed much either -- whether we're talking the current regime, or any of the discredited former regimes and casts of characters.

The common denominator throughout is Dan Snyder -- and that won't change either.

All I'm saying is that it's a very profitable business model, but a lousy way to build and sustain a winning franchise.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 6, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Had the chance to watch the Raider vs SD game yesterday (was the only one on TV here at the time -- plus I had Rivers and Kaeding in FF)

Got to say, Campbell had a terrific game vs SD yesterday. His passing numbers were modest -- would have looked better -- but he lost out on a 31 yd TD pass when his WR put his foot on the sideline when should have been able to stay in bounds.

Twice Campbell made outstanding play fakes. First on his TD run, the replay shows he runs right past a Charger DL guy who was didn't realize Campbell had the ball. The second great play fake was on a 3rd and 1. The play fake on the pass was so good that the Charger DL guys were celebrating having stopped the RB on the play -- except Campbell still had the ball and threw a 37 yd completion to set up the final Raider TD.

Where Campbell really did great things running the ball. These 4 runs resulted in a 1st down or TD and they were all key plays in TD drives.

4th and 1: 9 yd TD run (1st Raider TD)

4th and 1: 3 yd sneak to SD 18 (led to 2nd Raider TD)

2nd and 9: 12 yard scramble to OAK 43 ...and later on the same drive ...
3rd and 8: 9 yard scramble to SD 10 (led to 3rd Raiders TD)

In the box score, it says Campbell ran 7 times for 37 yards, which doesn't seem special -- there were a couple of kneel downs in those numbers. If you look at the actual plays he made, however, and how they impacted the game, his runs were a very big deal.

Bottom line, his passing was good, his overall game was terrific.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 6, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Newton's got one more year of eligibility but it's obvious he's coming out.

He's only played one year. Yeah, incredible year but, boy, he's a risk.

He's either going to be really good or a bust. No middle ground, I think.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 6, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

We are all about the bust in DC...I say go for it. Keep McNabb for two more years to mento Newton. I personally think he is going to make it big in the NFL. I just don't think its going to happen until 3 or 4yrs from now.

Posted by: ZornInMySide | December 6, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Cam Newton = better and taller Vince Young.

Incredible college QB but will have a tough time adjusting to the NFL style.

He might be able to do it but that Auburn system isn't exactly a pro-style offense. Gonna' take him longer than a QB coming out of a pro-style system.

Too much of a risk, I think.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 6, 2010 4:20 PM

VY's glaring problem is his maturity. Even given all his qb shortcomings, VY wins. If he can "grow up" mentally, he'd be a solid pro because he knows how to lead a team to victory. The question that would have to be answered in regards to Newton is his maturity level, his dedication to the game. Because a player with his immense talent, may take the game lightly. Newton is this year's Dez Bryant. Some team will most likely get a heck of a player.

Posted by: TWISI | December 6, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: TWISI | December 6, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

How many draft picks would we have to deal away to get another team to take him?

Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 6, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

You cannot suspend Haynesworth for conduct, he has done nothing wrong, getting sick is not a punishable offense. Even announcing you are going to deactivate him for the remaining weeks of the season is dubious after the T.O. grievance.

The question remains, what was Shanahan thinking deactivating AH when it was all hands on deck for a crucial game that could have launched the Redskins towards the playoffs? After the Redskins defense mistakenly played touch football all afternoon, you think the team could not have used Albert?

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 6, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Great idea wishbone.

We have a defense loaded with first round picks who can't get it done, but you think if we rounded up the local trained gorilla's for general admission tryouts we'd be on our way.

Did your parents have any kids that lived?
Posted by: edvar | December 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Macho Harris.
If you don't know don't talk.

Posted by: WishboneJr | December 7, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

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