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More on Albert Haynesworth trade possibility

With so much buzz out there about the Redskins possibly trading Albert Haynesworth to the Tennessee Titans, we thought this would be a good time to clear up a few things.

Although the new regime has wanted to trade Haynesworth for some time, no teams apparently were willing to offer the compensation the Redskins sought in exchange for a player who has already been paid $32 million -- including $21 million on April 1 -- for essentially one season. There has been speculation about how much money interested teams would have to send to the Redskins to help offset the money they have paid Haynesworth.

But NFL teams are prohibited from "trading money," according to two people familiar with the situation. Teams cannot send any money to the Redskins to spur a trade.

Moreover, the Redskins have repeatedly indicated they might be open to accommodating Haynesworth with a trade if he was willing to give back a portion of his signing bonus. But it is highly unlikely Haynesworth would give back any of the guaranteed $41 million owner Daniel Snyder agreed to give him, especially with multiple team sources indicating Coach Mike Shanahan is highly frustrated with the ongoing Haynesworth drama and could be finally ready to make a move. So if the Redskins trade Haynesworth, it appears they would have to accept a huge loss on the contract he signed in February of 2009.

Then there's the matter of Haynesworth's $3.6 million base salary this season. Under the terms of Haynesworth contract, his base salaries in 2010 and 2011 ($5.4 million) were guaranteed.

The guarantees were voided, however, when Haynesworth skipped the mandatory June minicamp. But as a fully vested veteran who is on a roster for the first week of the season, Haynesworth again will be guaranteed the $3.6 million. Whether Haynesworth is with the Redskins, Titans or another team, the likelihood is he will be on a roster somewhere for Week 1 of the NFL season.

And if Haynesworth is traded today, which team would be on the hook for his weekly paycheck of $211,764.71? League transactions usually occur Monday or Tuesday, so Haynesworth could take a little more from the Redskins if he departs soon.

By Jason Reid  |  September 7, 2010; 4:24 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments


Same as it ever was !

Posted by: hessone | September 7, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I am already compensated, why so much worry here?

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 7, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't my flowing golden locks look gorgeous?

Posted by: Tom_Brady | September 7, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"And if Haynesworth is traded today, which team would be on the hook for his weekly paycheck of $211,764.71..."

I'm just letting that "weekly paycheck" amount sink in. RedDMV would give scampbell1975 daily tossed salads for that kind of money.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | September 7, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/07/seahawks-continue-purge-of-veteran-players/

Pick up this guy for added depth and then Cut/Trade Hanney. A third right now is looking better and better.

Posted by: Devo2 | September 7, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

So keep him and make his life a living hell until he agrees to give back some money and renegotiate his contract in order to be traded.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 7, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

WHY THE F*CK DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT THE LOSS OF THE CAISH ALREADY PAID TO THAT FAT, GREASY, SMELLY BIOTCH?????

It's Snyder's money, not Shanny's, not Allen's - IT'S SNYDERS.

Tell him to hit the bricks and tell Snyder to swallow it.

I will say I was hoping for him to stomp on another Cowgirl's head.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 7, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Riding the bench is pretty sweet.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 7, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

It it hard to believe that danny made all that money and couldn't see how horrible this signing was from the beginning. How could anybody with a background in finance think that giving a lowlife like AH this much control over the direction of his franchise was a good idea. Vinny should be crucified for doing this.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 7, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

It it hard to believe that danny made all that money and couldn't see how horrible this signing was from the beginning. How could anybody with a background in finance think that giving a lowlife like AH this much control over the direction of his franchise was a good idea. Vinny should be crucified for doing this.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 7, 2010 4:38 PM |

He doesn't have that much of a financial background as he does a telemarketing background. Maybe he can sick an army of collection agents on Fat Albert. I would go down to SE DC and write Haney's home address on $100 bills and tell them there's plenty more where that came from...if you bring me a finger, to or an ear of his.

But that's just me. I'd go straight gangsta on that bizznatch.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 7, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Anger management therapy has taught me to take life one day at a time.

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 7, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan may be sick of the whole situation, but its also clear to me that he's had a major role in how's it evolved. Yes, its mostly on Albert and the jerk he is. But Shanahan has only 1 guy with game changing talent and its up to him to bring him into the fold and have him ready for the season.

Playing him on 49 snaps in the 4th preseason game -- far more snaps than he should ever see in a regular season game -- I doubt even the Skins players are with Shanny on that.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 7, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Don't my flowing golden locks look gorgeous?

Posted by: Tom_Brady | September 7, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse
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If by gorgeous you mean making Peyton Manning look downright fashion forward, then yes.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | September 7, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Re- Skins being a bottom 5 WR' corps: I added up the projected point totals for the WR corps for each NFL team according to ESPN.com's fantasy football league website. I figure this gives us a fair (though not great) projection of public opinion on the quality of each teams WR corps overall. By ESPN's standard, at least this way, we are 13th from the bottom.

NE-481
Min-453
NYG-429
Bal-429*
PHI-423
NO-407
NYJ-404
HOU-401
SD-388
Ind-386
Cin-330
MIA-325
Bal-320
Det-315
CHi-307
PIT-299
AZ-290
GB-288
ATL-270
Was-239
Ten-231
KC-207
SF-197
CLE-195
Den-189
Stl-185
Jac-183
Car-165
Oak-165
TB-96
Buf-93
SEA-72


* This is with there adition of Houshmandzeadeh in my math but not ESPN's overall outlook, thie adition should drop other WR's # on the team.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 7, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | September 7, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

If by gorgeous you mean making Peyton Manning look downright fashion forward, then yes.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | September 7, 2010 4:46 PM

You give me a... well, you know.

Posted by: HugeErection | September 7, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Keim has written that this pattern with Haney goes back to high school, when he dogged it his senior year because he already had a scholarship locked up. He only plays well when he has a payday coming up.

That said, let's see how motivated he is in the Dallas game. Maybe he'll play hard, you never know. We can always move him next week.

Posted by: NYPDee | September 7, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Analysis from the AP,
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"The Titans have missed Haynesworth's presence in the middle of their line, slumping to 31 sacks without him helping collapse offensive lines.... And the Titans know him well, having drafted Haynesworth in the first round in 2002. They used the franchise tag to keep Haynesworth in 2008 to help keep him focused,..."


I say the Titans initiated the talks to re-acquire Prince Al.

We got what they want and they got what we need.

The best deal, then:

A 3rd rounder plus Will Witherspoon to play outside linebacker should give us a vet player we need at position of weakness--OLB--and a decent pick in exchange.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

JReid, you're going to have to clarify for me. This report seems to conflict with the story written by Maese in today's (Tuesday's) paper which indicates that Haynesworth got an encouraging review from Shanahan and Haslett, saying that he's made good progress, is coming around, and was involved in practice at both nose and RE on Monday.

Now this report you're giving us says he's barely had any snaps in practice. What's the deal?

Posted by: schneed10 | September 7, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Analysis from the AP,
'
"The Titans have missed Haynesworth's presence in the middle of their line, slumping to 31 sacks without him helping collapse offensive lines.... And the Titans know him well, having drafted Haynesworth in the first round in 2002. They used the franchise tag to keep Haynesworth in 2008 to help keep him focused,..."


I say the Titans initiated the talks to re-acquire Prince Al.

We got what they want and they got what we need.

The best deal, then:

A 3rd rounder plus Will Witherspoon to play outside linebacker should give us a vet player we need at position of weakness--OLB--and a decent pick in exchange.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Good call Moe, finally someone who can talk football! You are one of the best on this blog.

Posted by: SportsWriter | September 7, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Call a pig a pig and send it on it's way already. I'm ready for the new beginning.

Posted by: RealConservative | September 7, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Now this report you're giving us says he's barely had any snaps in practice. What's the deal?
Posted by: schneed10

As others have mentioned, the reporters are generally allowed to watch only 30 minutes of practice a day. You think maybe Shanny might be controlling what they see?

Posted by: NYPDee | September 7, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

reason "#92" Ginny Cerrato should be kicked in the pills with combat boots. What a torque moron.

Posted by: johnt424 | September 7, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Looking forward to retirement HOF in maroon and black!

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 7, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, in addition to the financial mess this has made, I still can't see exactly what our strategy was from the beginning with AH. I mean, there is the dogmatic sort of authoritarian way of management which is based on policies and personal convictions of those in management (eg establishing a set of ideals and sticking to a philosophy based on that). The drawback is that this only works under some conditions and you have to get lucky with the personnel you are handed. It is also limited in that even when it works there is only so much that sort of organization will typically be capable of. An example of this sort of authoritarian management system would be Wal-Mart (believe me, Wal-Mart executives are aware they need to change this too).
So from the beginning (as it appears right now with the information we have), that we made a number of dumb moves with AH. First, we we signed an absolute dud of a player (human being) and gave him a huge amount of power over the organization, not only in our financial commitment(which includes aspects of: salary cap, ability to trade him, and just expense to the franchise) but also our locker room, and our commitments in building a defense around him (this to a lesser degree).

Then we had the ability to cut ties with him after a lackluster season, but instead we took him on his word that he would have some commitment to the team despite the overwhelming amount of evidence to opposite. After this, instead of finding a system of dealing with AH that would incline him to be productive, we kept the whip to his back until he just quit playing in games as a measure of revenge, or so it would appear. What the hell were the skins thinking? That he would fall into line because he is such a great guy? Shanny's plan would work IF AH didn't have the power to screw the team by not playing...in other words, we had to have some cooperation from him and we knew this.

I don't see how this could have been handled any worse; now if we get a third for him it seems we would be doing well just to get him off the team. Shanny needs to learn that his opinion of how the team should be does not match reality when players will rebel and have the power and the inclination to screw the team in the process. If he continues to be a "hard but fair" sort of coach, then he better make sure their are no AH's around from the beginning.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 7, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

If the Skins can get a 2nd round pick, that would probably be enough to acquire Logan Mankins from New England. Mankins is an all-pro left guard who is threatening to sit out the season, demanding a trade.

Mankins would be a significant upgrade to the Skins O-line.

Posted by: jboogie1 | September 7, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"The Titans have missed Haynesworth's presence in the middle of their line, slumping to 31 sacks without him helping collapse offensive lines...."

Yes, but... Tennessee had its ups and downs on defense, too. Albert became a starter during his second season, 2003. Here's how the defense went since, plus last year after he left:

2003 38 sacks, 30th rated pass defense
’04 32 sacks, 26th rated pass defense
’05 41 sacks, 17th rated pass defense
’06 26 sacks, 27th rated pass defense
’07 40 sacks, 10th rated pass defense
’08 44 sacks, 9th rated pass defense
'09 32 sacks, 31st rated pass defense

The other big loss after the '08 season (besides Albert) was longtime defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, who went to Detroit. I wondered why we didn't hear more from the Lions about possibly acquiring Albert -- they have more chips to play.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 7, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

the hype - tired of the hype - don't read the hype - but then again that's all the post prints! nothing really noteworthy about the team. They make it seem as if this is all the players are consumed about. then fans - short for fanatics go for it ...c'mon I thought this was about sports - only one or two players are always in the press about this mess - so what is their agenda- to join you some day- ha

Posted by: aypub | September 7, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

the hype - tired of the hype - don't read the hype - but then again that's all the post prints! nothing really noteworthy about the team. They make it seem as if this is all the players are consumed about. then fans - short for fanatics go for it ...c'mon I thought this was about sports - only one or two players are always in the press about this mess - so what is their agenda- to join you some day- ha

Posted by: aypub | September 7, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It would simply be bad business to trade Haynesworth for a ham sandwich and eat the cash. Snyder is really in a bad spot - thanks to Vinnie Cerrato. If Haynesworth stays and he dogs it on the field like the last pre-season game, the Redskins fans will make his life miserable. Is there anything worse than an overly-paid, over-weight, lazy, unappreciative, oxygen-sucking prima donna dragging your favorite team down?

Free agency has really ruined football. It has also priced most fans out of stadiums.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | September 7, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry JR. Until I hear it from the coach I figure you are just trying to sell your article. You and Stein have been living off of Haynesworth all summer. Get off your butt and do some real work and stop using Haynesworth as a way to mail it in every week. I dont have anything to write about. Oh I know, do an article on Haynesworth, doesnt have to be accurate, doesn't even have to be something new, just put his name in the title.

Posted by: ged0386 | September 7, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm so glad that we have a GM and legitimate coach so that we can focus in critical Dallas weeks on the task at hand. Beating Dallas.

Oh, yeah, the Haynesworth saga continues. I meant for NEXT Dallas week. This week the team will be focused on a trade deal.

Hopefully we get a receiver or running back when we deal him. I have less faith in those two positions than I do in nose tackle.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | September 7, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the nonsense about getting a second or third for Haynesworth, especially from Tennessee. Why? Ask yourself this question. Haynesworth was with Tennessee when the Redskins made him an offer they knew Tennessee could not match. In essence, the Skins took Tennessee's best player. Now they want to send him back to Tennessee. If you were the Tennessee GM, what would you offer? At best, I would offer a sixth or seventh pick and smile as the Skins "twist in the wind" with a recalcitrant Haynesworth. With his attitude, if a GM anywhere offers more than that, the owner of that franchise should have the GM get a psychiatric referra.

Posted by: nmyricks | September 7, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the nonsense about getting a second or third for Haynesworth, especially from Tennessee. Why? Ask yourself this question. Haynesworth was with Tennessee when the Redskins made him an offer they knew Tennessee could not match. In essence, the Skins took Tennessee's best player. Now they want to send him back to Tennessee. If you were the Tennessee GM, what would you offer? At best, I would offer a sixth or seventh pick and smile as the Skins "twist in the wind" with a recalcitrant Haynesworth. With his attitude, if a GM anywhere offers more than that, the owner of that franchise should have the GM get a psychiatric referral.

Posted by: nmyricks | September 7, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Forget all the nonsense about getting a second or third for Haynesworth, especially from Tennessee. Why? Ask yourself this question. Haynesworth was with Tennessee when the Redskins made him an offer they knew Tennessee could not match. In essence, the Skins took Tennessee's best player. Now they want to send him back to Tennessee. If you were the Tennessee GM, what would you offer? At best, I would offer a sixth or seventh pick and smile as the Skins "twist in the wind" with a recalcitrant Haynesworth. With his attitude, if a GM anywhere offers more than that, the owner of that franchise should have the GM get a psychiatric referral.

Posted by: nmyricks | September 7, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

trade this worthless perpetually tired fat F for a conditional future 6th round pick and a grilled cheese sandwich.

let Danny the Dumb-ss be stuck with the bill. he was the moron who wrote this POS the check in the first place. serves him right to learn the hard way, yet again (after 10 years of you would think learning the hard way every freaking year). TFB

Posted by: greatteamdan | September 7, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

"But NFL teams are prohibited from "trading money," according to two people familiar with the situation."

According to two people familiar with the situation? If it's a rule, shouldn't be public knowledge, not something attributed to a pair of anonymous sources? Hell, isn't something a person who covers the NFL on a full-time basis should know?

I'm not one of the plants from the Redskins organization sent over here to taunt JReid, but that's pretty weak.

Posted by: zimbar | September 7, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Here is what I would do if I was the owner/GM/coach...practice him every week, make him inactive every week for the duration of his contract...have him in training camp, play with the scrubs like this year...and repeat this every year...after his contract is up...who cares where he goes...his fat behind will quit before than...guaranteed!!!

Posted by: alstars85 | September 7, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

We need an article by Norman Chad, explaining that the $21M lost on the last hand (when the bonus was paid) should not affect the current hand - trading Fat Albert.

Posted by: lrmc623 | September 7, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert is Snyders mistake and it's time for him to show the love he professes to have for the Skins and take one for the team. Take the loss and show Fat Albert what you can do when you are REALLY rich, and fire his immenseness.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | September 7, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Tired of hearing how dominant this guy is. The guy has 28 sacks in his 8 seasons.
Sure he draws double teams, but 28 sacks in 8 years? Dominant, are you kidding?
Cut bait & move on.

Posted by: hogwash1 | September 7, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

THINK ABOUT IT...THE TEAM HAS ALREADY PAID HIM LIKE 31 MILLION DOLLARS...SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT KEEPING HIM ON THE TEAM FOR A MEASLY 3 PLUS MILLION MORE DOLLARS?
WHETHER HE DOES MUCH ON THE FIELD OR NOT..JUST PUTTING HIM IN THE GAME WILL BE CAUSE FOR THE OTHER TEAM TO DOUBLE TEAM HIM...THAT ALONE MAKES IT WORTHWHILE TO KEEP HIM. PLUS, IT WILL KEEP McNABB HAPPY.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | September 8, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Please, please, please stop. Please. I'm begging you. I can't take this story anymore. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. There are 52 other guys on this team, what's happening with them?

Just please stop this.

Please.

Posted by: DurhamBully | September 8, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

My thing is.. anybody can say what the hell they want. Keeping controversy in the media.. make up some bullshyt and say "According to team sources".. wtf?.. that's crazy. what the hell is a team source. I can say Dez Bryants mom was a beauty pagent queen and dated P Diddy.. according to team sources.. wtf?

Posted by: mcampbell007 | September 8, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

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