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Shanahan stresses repetition in afternoon sessions

Day 3 of Redskins training camp is in the books, as the players just completed their afternoon "jog-through" practice session.

As Coach Mike Shanahan said earlier in the day, defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth was on the field for the entirety of the session, but he did not participate. He stood among his teammates, though, often conferring with coaches or other linemen.

Haynesworth remained after practice again, working on the far field with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and line coach Jacob Burney.

These afternoon sessions, each of which has lasted about 60 minutes, are just as Shanahan described. It's a chance for players to walk through plays without getting lost in a pace that's too fast.

"What we try to do is take our morning practice and do all the things we did in the morning against different fronts," Shanahan explained earlier Saturday. "Different things that other people do in the NFL that we don't see in practice. The same thing that our defense will do, we don't run everything in the NFL; some teams run the Wildcat, sometimes use four wides, three tight, a lot of different variations.

"So what our defense tries to do is take our installment of all the defenses we do and use it against things that they haven't seen that we run," he continued. "It is just a way to get everything done in camp.

"It is time consuming, but we get a lot of reps. We almost get as many reps in one hour's practice when we throw them everything than we do in a two-hour practice. It is a positive experience."

Shanahan said that because so many players participated in the offseason conditioning program and reported to training camp in good shape, he's not too concerned with pounding with exercise in the afternoon.

"What we are trying to do now is keep our players in shape," Shanahan said. "I don't think we need a second practice to kill them every day. What we need is repetition, to be out there so we can stay on top of our game mentally."

By Rick Maese  |  July 31, 2010; 7:19 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Albert Haynesworth  
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1st to sat that Repetition is great unless your handle is gtown25. Then you're just a monotonous troll.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 31, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@Kerosene44

I know you feel incomplete without my shooting down your nonsensical defenses of the indefensible, but do try to make it a few minutes without trying to get attention from me. You're like an 18-month old toddler (wearing your "tiny tykes" Riggo jersey). Chill.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44 dis you make it out to practice yesterday or today? If so did anyone stand out?

Posted by: TWISI | July 31, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

These afternoon sessions, each of which has lasted about 60 minutes, are just as Shanahan described. It's a chance for players to walk through plays without getting lost in a pace that's too fast.

Thkx, dude.

Signed Rhino & DT

Posted by: ArcticCat | July 31, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Hypothetical question. Which would you rather have happen to you: to be put on Shanahan's $#!+ list, or to be eaten whole by Butterworth/Haynesgirth?

Posted by: mmurchison | July 31, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Redskins.com says Edwin Williams is lining up at C with the second team.

I hope he overtakes Rabach. I liked what I saw from Edwin at the guard position last year.

Posted by: Vicc | July 31, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan said that because so many players participated in the offseason conditioning program and reported to training camp in good shape ...

Players should use the offseason to improve their strength and cardio. Training camp should be for working together to be in synch on the plays in the O and D schemes, not wasting time and energy doing drills.

Posted by: ArcticCat | July 31, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

$#!+ list ...

Posted by: mmurchison | July 31, 2010 8:04 PM |

You get an "A" for knowing the internet alphabet:

$ = S
# = H
! = I
+ = T

Posted by: ArcticCat | July 31, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I know, I should have typed @ instead of A. Stupid me.

Posted by: ArcticCat | July 31, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

TWISI- Unfortunately No. A wife and two kids sometimes trumps even a tradition that myself and a few friends have had even before we took our vows. We usually attend the first Friday followed by golf in the afternoon dating back to Carlisle. I'll probably make it to Fan appreciation day on Aug. 8. Looking forward to you sharing your thoughts of what you see tomorrow.

gtown25- still waiting for you to share your thoughts on ANYTHING that's not defending AH or your assertion that a 2x SB winner is an idiot and should give a free pass to AH for showing up in poor condition….All this after adding 34 million in the last 12 months to his checking account, complaining about last year's scheme and this year's even though he never met with Shanny/Haslett to discuss his role, and hiring a ping pong/badminton trainer (Tripp Smith) to get him in shape. Go drink some gas and eat a lit match or please discuss something else. kthxbye..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 31, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

REPOST:

Here's one to chew on for ya:

Do people think McNabb is better than Joe Theisman as an NFL QB or worse?

I say worse but no stats to back it up though.

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 31, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 31, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

$#!+ #@ππ3&$.

:-)

Posted by: ArcticCat | July 31, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

We were the first ones to get shanahans autograph. In the front where you could touch the gate and too the far left. It was awsome

Posted by: hazeljay | July 31, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

We were the first ones to get shanahans and one of the first to get get Keomoeatu's autograph. At the front to the far left where we could lean on the gate

Posted by: hazeljay | July 31, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm still of the opinion that the Redskins will dump Fat Albert before the regular season. When you think of the Fat Albert situation in terms of using him as a wedge in the labor negotiations, Shanahan's actions make perfect sense. Hanesworth will be cut or traded for next to nothing. Then the Redskins organization will begin whining. It will sound something like:

"We paid almost 30 million in guaranteed money to this player, and what did we get. A player that was poorly conditioned and underperformed from day one. After taking a 21 million bonus he then refused to participate in even MANDITORY practices, demanded a trade without even knowing how he was going to be used, then shows up for Training camp and can't even pass a conditioning test. When he finally did pass, he was so far behind that he couldn't become a functioning part of our defense. We had no choice but to let him go. We can no longer risk giving players this sort of guaranteed contracts without severe repucussions fom the players if the fail to live up to their commitments."

The rest of the owners will join in rallying around this cause. Fat albert will become a "remember the Alamo" type rallying cry for the owners, and the NFLPA will be screwed.

This is the big business picture, and if any of you don't think it could happen this way you are naieve to the way business moguls think. It may be worth much more to their pocketbooks in the future than a measly 21 million.

Posted by: kaasmaster | July 31, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Kerosene(0.44)

How many times to I have say it until it sinks in to your highly diluted constitution (and who said repetition is effective?)?

Haynesworth should not have been given a free pass but should have been "allowed" to practice with his teammates on the 3rd or 4th string defense at NT and do a little extra conditioning before/after practice to help him improve his conditioning, if, indeed, he is out of shape. Forcing him to pass this test that no one else passed before he can take the field plays right into his hands if he wants to turn the tables on Shanahan and make him look like a fool (and I think he's done just that). He is currently not practicing and not taking the test due to discomfort in his knee (*cough*). Further, every day that he complains of discomfort keeps him in limbo, perpetuates the drama (distraction) and, perhaps most importantly, gives AH a "free pass" in training camp.

Go read a book and occasionally ask yourself questions as you go along to improve your reading comprehension.

Okay,T'anks,Buh-bye!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm still of the opinion that the Redskins will dump Fat Albert before the regular season. When you think of the Fat Albert situation in terms of using him as a wedge in the labor negotiations, Shanahan's actions make perfect sense. Hanesworth will be cut or traded for next to nothing.

Posted by: kaasmaster | July 31, 2010 9:00 PM

Haynesworth may be traded and he may not. It depends on what he does in the next few weeks in the Redskins' camp and whether another team steps up of with a big offer after an injury -- think Jason Taylor.

And, yeah, Shanahan's actions make perfect sense. This is how Shanahan has always treated players who defy him and he always will.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 31, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Okay,T'anks,Buh-bye!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 9:08 PM

Does gtown85 refer to the year that you emigrated to the United States from Georgetown, Guyana?

Posted by: beep-beep | July 31, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

ArcticCat: +#@&x

Posted by: mmurchison | July 31, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mmurchison | July 31, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | July 31, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse


@gtown85

Why don't you move to a Harvard board, where folks could understand your grammer.

You, my friend, are a repetitious moron.

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 9:08 PM

gtown85 = The New Redskins Trainer

or

gmoron85

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

hessone = blissfully unaware

Only you, my friend, could write "grammer" and accuse someone of being a moron in the same post, completely oblivious to the unflattering implications.

hessone = dolt?

Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse


gmoron85 = Jaculate Moronic Drivel

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse


gmoron85 = changeling

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse


gtown85 = the opening at the lower end of the alimentary canal, through which the solid refuse of digestion is excreted.

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse


gtown85 = an intestinal disorder characterized by abnormal frequency and fluidity of fecal evacuations.

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse


gtown85 = an abnormally enlarged vein mainly due to a persistent increase in venous pressure, occurring inside the anal sphincter of the rectum and beneath the mucous membrane (internal hemorrhoid) or outside the anal sphincter and beneath the surface of the anal skin (external hemorrhoid).

In your case, both !

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse


grammer = grammar

gtown85 = typo's nonexistent in his perfect little word. Nighty-nite, you moron !

Posted by: hessone | July 31, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

hessone = humiliated

Lmao!!!!! Good Night (my friend) !

Posted by: gtown85 | July 31, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Hess and Gtown,

You both need to give up on each other and move on to something else. Neither of you are getting anywhere, so why bother anymore. Your fued has gotten to the point where you're both being rediculously petty, and losing any credibility that you may have had. Move on, and return to higher ground.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 1, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

anybody else notice on revamped redskins store (http://store.redskins.com/redskins-merchandise.php) showing our "home" burgundy and "away" whites...

Posted by: forever21 | August 1, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth gets to stand on the field among his teammates while they practice? Then he gets personalized sessions with his position coach and the D-Coordinator? Dude is going to skate through training camp and still start opening night against Dallas? Haynesworth is one bad mama jama.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 1, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

OMG, I can't wait to see our new offensive system in operation. All of our players seem trmendously excited about how they are going used under the Shanahans. It is soooooooo nice that we have coaches who want to give the players as much oportunity as posible to use their skills to their advantage instead of forcing them into some pre-conceived roll. Moss, Cooley, and Portis ALL seem completely re-energized and refocused.
HTTR!

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 1, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

for me the three main keys to this offense working are 1) the O-line gelling and putting McNabb in an upright position on most passing downs B) A revitalized CP proving - not just saying - that he had gas left in the tank and 3) A legit #2 WR developing, be it MK, DT (my bet), Galloway, Art Monk, or Ricky Sanders.

HTTR

Signed,
Captain Obvious

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 1, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I've asked before and didnt get an immediate response or none at all.What happenned to our veteran castoffs besides Randle El?Smoot,Griffin,Cartwright,Betts,and my personal favorite the tight end whose name escapes me but was a solid pro while here.These guys were starter/captains last year,I realize they will be replaced by cheaper and younger players,Yet they are all either good or servicable players.

Posted by: mark65 | August 1, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I've asked before and didnt get an immediate response or none at all.What happenned to our veteran castoffs besides Randle El?Smoot,Griffin,Cartwright,Betts,and my personal favorite the tight end whose name escapes me but was a solid pro while here.These guys were starter/captains last year,I realize they will be replaced by cheaper and younger players,Yet they are all either good or servicable players.

Posted by: mark65

Rock is with Oakland -- didn't realize Yoder was no longer on the team. Might be a good idea to get him back.

Smoot is done playing, I think. Not sure about Griff. Can't imagine Betts is going to get a call since he had a major injury

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 1, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

rock Cartwright is cast off.Are you serious?He under performed is contract?Really?How could we let him go?The Raiders got a hell of a football player when they signed him to peanuts.

Posted by: mark65 | August 1, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Fred Smoot- free agent (unemployed)
Rock Cartwright- Oakland Raiders
Todd Yoder- Unemployed
Ladell Betts- Unemployed
Cornelius Griffin- Unemployed

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 1, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Yoder,thank you,what a beast. Underrated in my opinion.He could block and beat a linebacker in coverage and still be huge on special teams.Portis obviously appreciated him.

Posted by: mark65 | August 1, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Yoder,thank you,what a beast. Underrated in my opinion.He could block and beat a linebacker in coverage and still be huge on special teams.Portis obviously appreciated him.

Posted by: mark65 | August 1, 2010 1:31 AM | Report

He, Albright, and Hunter the Punter were the only 3 I was thinking "Why cut those guys?" The rest was more like, "phukin' finally."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 1, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you move to a Harvard board, where folks could understand your grammer.

You, my friend, are a repetitious moron.

Posted by: hessone


Unbelievable....


Said the man who for like 6 months straight only posted: "Boycott $nyder"... and other anti-Snyder crap NON-STOP... Then pissed and moaned about how it was a public forum and just because his ideas differed from everyone else, he shouldn't be subject to namecalling.

You, my friend, are a repetitious moron. - hessone


Way to be a hypocritical deuchenozzle, hess. Your on your way to becoming an RI legend!

I guess that's how you get yourself out there. Be predictable, constant, and insufferable, and VIOLA: You've got a little swag... people notice you... which in turn gives you permission to do the very same thing to others you used to catch feelings over.


smfh

Posted by: RedDMV | August 1, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks Jason Campbell is getting a better deal in Oakland ... his top 3 WRs have all missed time already. And its not like they're that good to begin with.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/31/SPKS1EN140.DTL

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 1, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | August 1, 2010 2:10 AM

Co-sign. Six straight postings raging at one guy who played his '=' game and clearly got under his skin. How's that for repetitious?

Posted by: 72Stang | August 1, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Yoder,thank you,what a beast. Underrated in my opinion.He could block and beat a linebacker in coverage and still be huge on special teams.Portis obviously appreciated him.

Posted by: mark65 | August 1, 2010 1:31 AM
I get the impression that Dennis Morris is meant to be the guy to fill Yoder's roll for this year as a hybrid FB/TE with good blocking and pass catching skills. I thought that Yoder was a good guy too, but I'm hoping that Morris can be even better. When the team decides that it is time for Sellers to move on, they probably will get another Yoder type of player then.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 1, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm worried that Albright is the guy we're going to miss most. We may see him back before the season starts. From what I have heard, the new long snapper has not been very impressive.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 1, 2010 3:03 AM | Report abuse

Way to be a hypocritical deuchenozzle, hess.
Posted by RedDMV

"Deuchenozzle" is a keeper.

Now on the redskins front, all this silliness surrounding receivers who are under par will begin to fizzle. The real issue on offense has to be the play of the oline. How lucky or unlucky we are with injuries (see last season), and getting the players we have to perform, will decide more than any other area of the offense how well we play this year. Mcnabb, Portis, the TE's, etc. are all known quantities, the oline and wr's are the ?s; of the two the oline is the biggest ?.

Mark my words, if that Oline plays well we will be in the playoff hunt.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 1, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

More from Dan Patrick and Jeff Fisher:

DP: What is the conditioning test that players keep failing? Is it different for specific teams?
JF: Yeah, it is different. Different clubs require different things when players report. We're doing the same thing that the Redskins do, based on some of the reports I read. The players come in, and they'll be required to run a 300-yard shuttle from the goal line to the 25-yard line and back. You do that six times, and you have a time in which you have to finish it, based on positions. For example, the skill guys will be right around 60 or 65 seconds. The bigger and the heavier they get, the more time you have to finish it. Then you have a rest and recovery period, and then you go out and you do it again. That particular test is something we've been doing for years. We have a baseline. The players are ready for it. They come in and it's not a big deal. We will allow players that have participated in a [good] percentage of the offseason program—say they make 80 percent of the workouts—they don't have to test, because we assume they're in good shape. But teams do different things. I remember some of the clubs I was with had the players run an 880. That's an interesting test, because when are you going to run an 880 on the football field? What happens there is that players start training for the 880, and they stop training for football and they start running in a straight line and around tracks. The day the 880 is over, you come out to practice and you pull hamstrings and groins, because you're not in football shape. There are all different types of tests that have taken place over the years.

DP: Could you pass the conditioning test today?
JF: Absolutely. I need a little bit more time.

DP: What happened to Albert Haynesworth's desire?
JF: It's hard to say. Albert had some productive years here. He had some difficulty early in his career adjusting. He did not make an adequate commitment to our offseason program early in his career. As he matured and came on and became a better teammate, he understood it, he had fun and he enjoyed working here. I can't comment on [what happened in Washington]. Only those that were a part of [the Redskins'] locker room or that organization know what happened last year. Certainly, he's off to a rough start this year."

Posted by: Samson151 | August 1, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Saw some more love for Lee Vickers over at redskins.com. This dude is bringin it, he's the reason they dumped Sean Ryan earlier.

He's listed at 6-6 272, and apparently he can catch as well...diamond in the rough, perhaps?

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 1, 2010 6:48 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: RedDMV | August 1, 2010 2:10 AM

True,I let him get the best of me. And with all due respect, I've cleaned up my act in regards to $nyder. I see you didn't jump on the other posters that had it out with this guy gtown85 for the last two days. That's OK, I know your feelings, have a good one.

Posted by: hessone | August 1, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

washington TE position is deep even without yoder, also hope that e. williams w take's the job away from the way overrated c. rabach, williams is stronger, younger and quicker. If o-line at the start of the season is at least solid washington can win. haynesworth brought some of this on himself, I mentioned a few weeks that he was NOT going to play much NT. need discipline on a football team and life in general.

Posted by: wathu19 | August 1, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

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