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Redskins actively seek to trade Albert Haynesworth

Despite recently cutting one of the largest checks in NFL history to pay defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth's bonus, the Redskins are actively attempting to trade him before the April 22 draft, people familiar with the situation said Tuesday.

Coach Mike Shanahan has instructed General Manager Bruce Allen to identify potential destinations for Haynesworth, to whom the Redskins paid a $21 million bonus on April 1, and the Redskins have talked with multiple teams about the eight-year veteran. The Redskins did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans - whom Haynesworth left to join the Redskins before the 2009 season for $41 million guaranteed - are among the teams that could be interested in acquiring Haynesworth. In his first season in Washington last season, Haynesworth was slowed by injuries and not in top physical condition.

During their pursuit of quarterback Donovan McNabb, the Redskins included Haynesworth in trade talks with the Philadelphia Eagles. Washington acquired McNabb for a second-round pick this season and either a third- or fourth-round pick, based on McNabb's performance during this season, in the 2011 draft.

Shanahan's desire to excise Haynesworth from the roster stems from Haynesworth's reluctance to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 scheme and his decision to train individually instead of participating in the voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park. Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.

In the first 14 months of his contract, Haynesworth has been paid $32 million. Under the terms of his contract, Haynesworth is guaranteed another $9 million.

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By Jason Reid  |  April 6, 2010; 5:20 PM ET
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Comments

First to say... damn... gonna let some "voluntary" workouts get in the way of future on-field dominance.

Posted by: tony325 | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I hope Haynesworth do unto the Skins, what the Skins have done to JC. This is a heartless organization, it doesn't deserve any sanity.

Posted by: abxinc | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Fatsworth makes like a bandit either way, good for him! I'd love some of Dan Synder's stupid money.

Posted by: sichon | April 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I like that no one is untouchable in this organization. You're either with us, or against us. I for one believe Shanahan can lead us in the right direction, and if Big Al doesn't, then he can go to Detroit & hang out with his old defensive coordinator.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | April 6, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I'd love some of Dan Synder's stupid money.

Posted by: sichon | April 6, 2010 5:34 PM

Three steps: Start by becoming NFL defensive player of the year. Then, get a good agent. Finally, sign the check.

Let me know when you've completed step 1. I'm willing to work on your behalf in step 2.

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

umm the Philadelphia Eagles did not want Haynesworth.....

Posted by: Rockvillers | April 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I guess I don't understand this at all. He's a dominant player in his prime. I'm sure there's lots about the situation that we don't know, but from my perspective, you don't trade one of the top DTs in the entire league because of some missed offseason workouts and a little griping. Shanny must be a serious, serious disciplinarian.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Booooo. Just work with the guy.

After all, if we are planning on a Superbowl run in the next year or 2, we are gonna need some talented playmakers on the roster.

Hype aside, McNabb's not going to get it done on his own.

AH had second highest play total of Skins linemen? I doubt it will shut up the haters, but that's an interesting nugget of info.

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

in ye olde days, dead cows were launched from catapults at the enemy, presumably to inspire fear (and spread disease) among the opposition... I say we do the same to AH

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Tell how moving him after paying him $32M is a good idea...how does this help our team? How well do you think the rest of the D, aka Orakpo, Carter, etc is going to play without AH in the lineup...

This makes no F'n sense to me, swallow your pride Shanny and lets see what the big guy can do this season, let him play DE if he wants if it doesnt work out, then sit him down like a man and say this is your options.

He is a hell of a player, grant it his stats were outstanding, but they werent horrible...he made everyone around him a hell of lot better.

Posted by: mhartz1 | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Somebody's going to wind up getting a solid defensive tackle for not much.

And it ain't the Skins.

But they've painted themselves into a corner.

First Campbell, now Haynesworth. They're stuck with two players that they can't keep and don't want and whose trade value diminishes every day.

But for some folks, we're supposed to wait until September and every move has been made to make any critical comments.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I hope Haynesworth do unto the Skins, what the Skins have done to JC. This is a heartless organization, it doesn't deserve any sanity.

Posted by: abxinc | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM
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JC had 5 years to produce like his NFL counter parts who have been drafted since him... and he still can't read a defense... I don't want to hear about the O-Line, QB's pre-read at the line of scrimmage is their #1 defense to the blitz & JC never knew where it was coming from.

Hail Redskins & Hail McNabb... I just think when you spend 41 million on a player, you should get some production & he is a mean mean man...

On the other hand, I get it... He is the highest paid player on the team which automatically makes him a locker room leader whether he likes it or not... and by doing his own thing, he is alienating himself at a time when the Redskins need to be a team.

Posted by: tony325 | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance to him.

Great player when he wants to be. Jerk in the locker room, apparently. Not a team guy. Not in shape.

Most of us knew this, but Snyderrato went and got him anyway.

Posted by: lordtwang | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Anybody still think Portis is safe because his contract is guaranteed?

Posted by: edvar | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

He's a dominant player in his prime.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Did you come to that conclusion after watching him scream and cry like a bizitch every game?

Posted by: Salinas1 | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm sooo OVER Mike Shanahan. One stupid mistake after another.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

That's what you get FAT BOY!!! Playing a kid's game for more than a king's ransom, stupid lazy F

Posted by: bhoang888 | April 6, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope Haynesworth do unto the Skins, what the Skins have done to JC.

Posted by: abxinc | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM

Me too! This organization moved up to draft him, paid him around $20 million, hired Zorn to coach him up. If Haynesworth can do something like that for the Redskins -- even if it's only giving us $20 million, then he's alright in my books.

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

if they hadn't destroyed his market value, he'd reel in at least 2 #1 picks, and considering how much of his salary they've picked up, it should be way way more. It's pretty cool in a sense bc they'll effectively pay $ for draft picks, if they can pull this off. but hard to see them getting half what he's worth now. maybe a 1 & a 3? wonder if the lions would rather have him considering how much less they'd have to commit in salary vs the #2 pick. would explain why we're still working out QBs. can't see a "rebuiliding" team wanting him though, except someone crazy like al davis.

Posted by: beatkal | April 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

WOW ! Just WOW. ! Heeeey Heeeey Heeeey !

Posted by: killerskunk63 | April 6, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

if they hadn't destroyed his market value, he'd reel in at least 2 #1 picks, and considering how much of his salary they've picked up,

Well, at least a late first and something.

Now, his value is falling faster than the Greek currency.

A second would be about the best they can get.

Darned, it sure looks like they're just winging it. Making it up as they go along.

I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The Skins had a solid D before fat albert and they will have a solid D after fat albert is gone. It's a team game - lest we forget.

Posted by: Timotious | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Albert is cheap at this point -- a great value. He's gonna cost some team $9mil for the next 2 years. That is a tremendous value. $34million for 1 season. Not so much.

Would DET part with their #2 overall for Albert? Its less risky and much cheaper than Suh.

Albert had a lot to do with our improvement along the DL last year and the increase in sacks. Albert was good, maybe even very good -- but Danny was paying the guy like a HOF in the prime of his career.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

if they hadn't destroyed his market value, he'd reel in at least 2 #1 picks...

Posted by: beatkal | April 6, 2010 5:46 PM |

Not sure who you think is "they" but he's the one that destroyed his market value. Anyone who looks at film of him last year realizes that he's a half-asser in a triple-asser's body.

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of trading AH, he does not fit a 3-4 defense....the fact that he does not want to work out with the team only states the obvious, he does not want to be here. The real question is, Can Allen earn is $$ and get value for JC, AH, and most likely Carter and Landry. As far as the money Dan paid and LOST, who cares, it is his money and the new folks wont be doing that anymore.

Posted by: 1footballguru | April 6, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

don't understand these "loyalty" comments here... first of all, AH doesn't fit the defense, and has said he doesn't want to play the position where the coaching staff wants him (NT). so not exactly ideal even if he wasn't an attitude problem. but he also won't work out with the team despite being asked and whines about how he's being used (even in the 4-3). so i understand it's a bizarre move to first bring him in and then let him go, but shanahan didn't bring him in, so don't pin it on him. and albert is basically begging to get shippout out at this point -- bad attitudes are hugely detrimental in football. this team won't respect a make-peace type coach like zorn, so maybe it will fall in line with someone willing to treat even the stars like they're not above the team.

Posted by: beatkal | April 6, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind trading Albert...as long as it is a decent trade and we don't sign TO like ESPN is suggesting. Can you imagine a team with McNabb, TO, Hayneworth & Portis. Talk about a poisoned locker room...

I'm not sure what to think of the Skins for next year now...I was actually looking forward to a true rebuilding year where you had folks actively competing for positions and watching games was more about figuring out who would make it to 2011/12, not whether we make the playoffs. That might sound strange, but it is a hell alot more fulfilling to watch a team get "built" rather than what passes for team development in Danny-world.

Posted by: jnel | April 6, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Would DET part with their #2 overall for Albert? Its less risky and much cheaper than Suh.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM

Don't agree that it's "less risky." He looks like a man who doesn't really want to play NFL football. His best work is behind him. Suh is just getting started.

Posted by: League-Source | April 6, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling you, and it was just a hunch then, but I've been sayin' for at least a month now that BIG AL was on the block. Whichever clubs have been on the hook with the 'SKINS over this, don't want to give up a first for him and the REDSKINS think he's worth more than just a second. Something will happen here.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 6, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

If he wants to be here then figure out a way to use him then let him play.

If they want to trade him then trade him.

I don't care. Just tired of the soap opera that ensues every time the front office makes a move.

Or even when they don't make one.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Do not trade him to Detroit cause they will take Okung!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 6, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey JReid, why dont you pull that Sub sandwich out of your mouth and your hand out of Wilbons ass and find out what Haslett thinks of AH...

Posted by: mhartz1 | April 6, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

To all the Butterworth slurpers:

Character, discipline, commitment to the team. Mr. Butterworth lacks in all three areas:

1)tries to tell coaches how to use him in games
2) has not been in top physical shape last year
3) refuses to work out with the team in the offseason

I think Shanahan sees him as a $100 million cancer on the team, undermining the coaching staff with a me-first attitude.

It's a team game - i.e. teams win games, not talented individuals. All of Butterworth's defensive talent could not help the Redskins Team win more than 4 games.

See ya, Butterworth! Back to having a real team instead of a collection of me-firsts!

Posted by: hithere1 | April 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so, what does AH get on the open trade market, remember, he only has $9 Mil left out of the $41 Mil, so he is coming on the cheap for the new team if Mr. Snyder eats the recent bonus money...I say a 2nd this year with a 4th or 3rd next year...replacing the recent trade with philly. The key in my opinion is "How much $$ do we eat of the $21M". Tampa is cash poor but would LOVE AH, if they pair their new stud Suh/McCoy with AH, that could be a strong DL for them without giving much up. What does everyone else think we get for AH?

Posted by: 1footballguru | April 6, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm sooo OVER Mike Shanahan. One stupid mistake after another.

Posted by: Lisa_R |


You'd rather have Fat Albert than a future Hall of Fame coach?

Posted by: lordtwang | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I say a 2nd this year with a 4th or 3rd next year..

That sounds about right but it might be conditional. I.e., if he plays "x" number of snaps it'll be a 3rd next year versus a 4th.

My guess is that whatever team trades for him will absolutely want some conditional limits to it.

Despite all the baggage, he's a heckuva player when he wants to be.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Does not matter what they do - they got to be humble. And shut up.


Or else.

Posted by: gary4books | April 6, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Now that everyone knows that the Skins are trying to move this fat slob, the circumstances are ripe for them to get fleeced. Talk about dealing from weakness. Philly didn't want him and took a 2nd and 4th round pick instead. If you think fatso brings back a #1 pick, you're smoking something illegal...

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Broncos fan and over the last 5 years or so of Shanahan's coaching reign there, he was really bad in drafting or picking up defensive linesmen. The Broncos had a bad defense despite having Champ Bailey because Shanahan either go rid of good DLs like Trevor Pryce or picked up rejects from Cleveland. So be careful of what you wish for, you Redskins fans who want to see Fat Al go.

Posted by: vicguru | April 6, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

It was Dannielle Schneider -- not Shanahan -- who gave Hamsworth $31 million in GUARANTEED money!


So, what's he done so far? Play 23 quarters?

For the 342nd time -- no Super Bowl for Skins as long as football-clueless Schneidie owns the club. We're now at 11 years and counting ...

Posted by: kinkysr | April 6, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

AH does not want to be a Redskin, that is why we are discussing a trade, NOT because we are wishing it, Mr. Vicguru. As for Shanny's draft abilities and DL success you are correct and the team he built in DC is much different than the Personnel team he had in Denver, I think that makes a big difference.

Posted by: 1footballguru | April 6, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Trading Big Albert is a great idea. He is only owed $9M more over 3 years so his contract is not a barrier. For a team that plays the right 4-3, he could be a good fit. For Shanahan and Haslett, he's a bad fit. He's a bad influence in the locker room, and he doesn't want to play NT (where he could be great). I bet they could get a #1 for him easily or a #2 and a couple of other good draft choices. The only thing lost is Danny's money and that's already a sunk cost. Thus, it's not a loss at all. The mistake was signing him for all that money in the first place. To pay someone that much, they have to be a high character guy, which Big Albert is not.

Posted by: dwill2 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I thought Dieon Sanders was a big bust, but this failed experiment with Haynesworthless will eclipse all Snyder's financial busts by a huge margin. I hope he sold a lot of 92's jerseys to offset it.

Yeah, maybe he was 2nd for most plays on the D-line, but it certainly doesn't mean he played during most of those plays. In so many ways, he just never showed he gave a dang about being a Redskin. Money definitely didn't buy any loyalty. His momma sure didn't raise him right.

It would be awesome if we could work out a trade with Detroit for their 2nd pick so we could get Okung AND Suh.

At this point, I won't believe any roster moves until I actually see them playing on opening day.

Still, it's exciting to try to keep up with the drama.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone here still want to call Dan Snyder a great businessman? Haynesworth is the great businessman, not Snyder.

Posted by: hz9604 | April 6, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm sooo OVER Mike Shanahan. One stupid mistake after another.

Posted by: Lisa_R |

I say we let Lisa with all of her playing experience and knowledge coach the team. I am positive she has way more knowledge of the game than a two time superbowl winning coach. SMH at these internet football experts.

Posted by: clwalker1906 | April 6, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

It's a VOLUNTARY workout. If it is that important for him to be there, make it mandatory.

Posted by: NotaFan1 | April 6, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

On the one hand, it has to sting that the Skins will essentially end up paying him 40M for one shabby season. On the other hand fellow Skins fans, remember how when we acquired him we all said that it made no sense since we didn't really need a start defense tackle but did need offensive line help? Well, this may be the chance to wind back the clock on that. If we can get some picks and players and put them all to o-line, this could be great. The only person really hurt by it is Dan, but the past is the past. It also makes a lot of sense if he looks to be the locker room problem that they appear to think he is.

Posted by: Solon | April 6, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think Fat boy hasn't lived up to the hype. I can't forget last season watching him loll like a pregnant walrus around the football field every third or fourth play. For all that money, the guy can't show up to a few offseason workouts? His presence there would benefit the team and certainly his conditioning.

If we could decent get draft picks for him, I say see ya.

Posted by: bostskin | April 6, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

So JReid's post points out that AH played the 2nd most snaps of any Skins D-linemen and still there are about a dozen comments calling him lazy, half-a$$ed, etc. etc.

What gives?

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

On the one hand, it has to sting that the Skins will essentially end up paying him 40M for one shabby season. On the other hand fellow Skins fans, remember how when we acquired him we all said that it made no sense since we didn't really need a start defense tackle but did need offensive line help? Well, this may be the chance to wind back the clock on that. If we can get some picks and players and put them all to o-line, this could be great. The only person really hurt by it is Dan, but the past is the past. It also makes a lot of sense if he looks to be the locker room problem that they appear to think he is.

Posted by: Solon | April 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Or else what?

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 6, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I say a 2nd this year with a 4th or 3rd next year..

That sounds about right but it might be conditional. I.e., if he plays "x" number of snaps it'll be a 3rd next year versus a 4th.

My guess is that whatever team trades for him will absolutely want some conditional limits to it.

Despite all the baggage, he's a heckuva player when he wants to be.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

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I don't know SMG...if Snyder eats that $32 in bonus money/salary already paid, I'd say that it'd be hard for another team to demand any other sort of "Conditions".

Big Al clearly comes with a "Caveat Emptor" attached to the trade paperwork at this point.

I agree with you and the original poster that a 2nd this year and a
3/4 next would be about all we can hope for and is realistic considering the money involved.

I say good riddance. Things can't really change on this team until attitudes like Al are gone. There's a new sheriff in town and his name is not Reggie Hammond, it's Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 6, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

To pay someone that much, they have to be a high character guy, which Big Albert is not.

Posted by: dwill2 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse


Or maybe they could just be the best in the NFL at their position...which he is.

I don't get it. There is absolutely NO evidence that he's a lockerroom cancer or a bad teammate. He played the 2nd most snaps of any Skins Dlineman, yet he's the laziest blob on the face of the earth.

This is starting to remind me of Gregggggggg Williams when he benched LaVar b/c he wouldn't stand in the right spot - only worse.

Yeah, let's trade AH so some other team can have the best Dlineman in the NFL on our dime.

Then let's sit back and watch Andre Carter revert to a 3-sack season while teams run all over us b/c everyone is still trying to figure out the 3-4 and we have no playmakers on the frontline.

Friggin' brilliant.

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

This is the smartest moves the 'Skins have made to date and convinces me that they have turned the corner. This is what Ted Leonis would have done, and that's good enough for me. Kick out the non-team-player slackers, and start anew. Sure, it may be economically crazy in retrospect, but I very much love the signal that it sends. I'm very impressed.

Posted by: CapsLust | April 6, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Not one to question Shanahan's judgment, but does the name Maurice Clarett ring a bell? What is the point of letting the league know that AH does not fit into his system. Look for nothing but low-ball offers. I hope Cooley hasn't done something to tick him off.

Posted by: 4merskinsfan | April 6, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Skins defense is gonna be a mess next year. Linebackers are key in the 3-4 and we don't have any - except Lorenzo Alexander. Haynesworth's departure will hurt Orakpo. Andre Carter will go back to being Andre Carter.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 6, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The Shanahan/Allen honeymoon is already over and we're only at the start of BASEBALL season. This team seems to be making the same boneheaded blunders that it made before we entered this "new era" of competent professionals running the show. Seems like the same guy's still calling the shots...

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

$21 million in the bank baby, I ain't playing nose tackle, I don't have to!

Posted by: kls1 | April 6, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm only now starting to grasp how funny it would have been to be a fly on the wall during the handover process from Cerratto/Snyder to Shanahan/Allen.

To listen to Vinny and Dan debrief these guys on the guaranteed contracts, the chain of command in place during Zorn's tenure etc. would have been priceless.

How many times do you think Allen said "Excuse, me you did what?"

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 6, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the 'Skins should trade Haynesworth and McNabb for a second-round pick.

Posted by: josettes | April 6, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

This is tough one. Albert isn't required to be here per the Unions agreement, yet as a new coach, trying to change a fat cat, overpaid, don't practice because I'm a star mentality that has poisoned this franchise for years has to be purged somehow. Nobody said he has to play nose tackle all the time. They wantto move him around alot. Why wouldn't he like that? He and others have their money, why wouldn't you want to be more than the sum of your bank account? This entitlement crap has got to be changed. Is it that hard to be here and integrate your personal workout with the teams? Ridiculous is what it is. Shanahan may be a harda**, but his hands are somewhat tied in his approach at least in the 1st year of change. how hard is it to be here when asked? AH is divircing and doesn't even have to worry about leaving his family. Again, ridiculous.

Posted by: razor25 | April 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

In albert haynesworth's 9 year career, he only had 3 productive seasons 2005, 2007, 2008 and only one year he was actually a pro bowler (2008). It was a poor decision to invest money into a guy thats best year was a contract year. ANd sadly the redskins have paid for it, literally.

Getting some picks and maybe a player for albert is not as bad as it would seem, especially if he's not going to be productive for us. I mean 37 tackles, 4 sacks, mostly used to suck up double teams so other people can get sacks....sounds like EVERY NOSE TACKLE WORTH HIS SAND, with many putting up better numbers.

All you fans that believe that albert haynesworth is all of sudden going to be a dominent player for us aren't seeing the obvious signs that he doesn't want to play here , he simply WANTED THE MONEY and he got it. Let him go and have him be average for someone else. His production can be replaced, and his cap hit came during a uncapped year so in the end it's not hurting us as much. This is a good decision if we want a winner, let the money hungry cry babies leave, so we can get players that want to win in here so we can.

Posted by: culprit59 | April 6, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

JC had 5 years to produce like his NFL counter parts who have been drafted since him... and he still can't read a defense... I don't want to hear about the O-Line, QB's pre-read at the line of scrimmage is their #1 defense to the blitz & JC never knew where it was coming from.

Posted by: tony325 | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse
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OK sparky, You don't want to hear about the Oline? Really? Then how can he read the defense if he's on his back? First, I've played QB from pee-wee till High School. There are SOME plays were the defense does telegraph the blitz before the snap, but MOST times they come from stunting, zone blitzing, or just from a straight bull rush from the DE. These are all blitzes that come after the snap and are best defended by personnel (i.e. Oline).

I'm not a defending Campbell, sure there were sacks that he caused by being hesitant, or moving/scrambling into pressure. But you can't compare the QBs that came out with Campbell as a measuring stick. All things definitely were not equal. For the past two seasons he played behind a semi-pro line and you cannot just dismiss that. McNabb will not fair much better if they don't address the O-line.

Posted by: clark202 | April 6, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Soooo happy to have dumped my Redskins tickets. Albert ain't getting any of MY money. Remember Redskins fans, it isn't Dan Snyder's money, it is YOUR money. All the money you spend on tickets and gear goes to Snyder who spends it on guys like Haynesworth (after pocketing his slice). Next time you feel like buying something Redskins related, just remember, you are giving that money to Dan Snyder and he could give a crap about you. Worst fan experience in the league.

Posted by: buster5 | April 6, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I think the 'Skins should trade Haynesworth and McNabb for a second-round pick.

Posted by: josettes | April 6, 2010 7:00 PM

you forgot to include Cooley in the package

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 6, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Redskin fans are the BIGGEST suckers on the planet! Albert thanks you with all his fat heart...

Posted by: beenthere3 | April 6, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

This is management 101. Haynesworth felt like his contract made him untouchable, but in reality it but a big bullseye on his back. And Shanahan is feeling trigger happy around a guy who has a me-first attitude when a team mentality is what's required to win it all.

When Al Davis finds out this guy is available... we might be able to make a sweet deal. Throw in Campbell and Carter and we might get Oakland's whole draft.

Posted by: mrsaun | April 6, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Trade Fat Albert for a 2nd RD pick and then trade that to Denver for Brandon Marshall. Trade Lorraine Laundry for a 3rd, then draft linemen and linebackers all draft

Posted by: jmurray019 | April 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I guess I don't understand this at all. He's a dominant player in his prime. I'm sure there's lots about the situation that we don't know, but from my perspective, you don't trade one of the top DTs in the entire league because of some missed offseason workouts and a little griping. Shanny must be a serious, serious disciplinarian.

Posted by: skinsfan713


He is a dictator! When he was in Oakland, he pissed off the team because he would throw a hissy-fit if any players sat on their helmets on the sidelines. He wanted them standing all the time and he would irritate his players by his little rules. Everything had to be exactly as he wanted. Disciplin maybe but he was known as a Tyrant!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 6, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Who cares and why on earth do all of you die hard Redskin fans spend so much time on these baords? skins will be lucky to go 8-8 next year...stop wasting your TIME!

Posted by: scottpapex | April 6, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Albert needs to be with the team but I know Shanny and he will give him away for nothing because he is so F88king headstrong!

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 6, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you are naive to think Hayesworth didn't make the defense better even though he was freaking out of shape!!!!!!..... Keep in mind when he signed here he didn't sign up to be a nose tackle. Money aside at the time Redskins management made a decision to pay him so all this whining about what he gets paid is ridiculous..And before you slam Haynesworth anymore take a look at this:
Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.

If workouts are voluntary this makes no sense , if he says he hired a trainer an decided to workout on his own at least wait until minicamp to access his conditioning!
If Shanahan can get a first and third round pick well I am for it but Haynesworth is a great player...

Posted by: BeatDontStop | April 6, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Renmber, Shanny sucked in Denver without Elway. He had a losing record without Elway.

Posted by: KurtShanaman | April 6, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of the bum!!!

I don't care how much of dannyboys money we gave him. He's an out of shape blow hard. He never did one thing for the Skins.

I'd kick him in the ass on the way out ther door - if I was a little bigger!!

Posted by: Jaymand | April 6, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Does Haynesworth qualify as big game? Would shooting him save the Redskins $9 million? The only problem with shooting that fat tub of lard is hiring six people to carry the casket.

Posted by: msmart2u | April 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Butterworth's excuse that he wants to work out w/ his own trainer rather than w/ the team is baloney. He already has his freezer stocked w/ Ben and Jerry's and his only exercise will be from the sofa to that same freezer.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 6, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

to all you wanna be G.m.;s if he doesen:t fit the system and does not want to play nose tackle, along with a bad attitude then get rid of him. But please quit diminishing his value, lets make a deal with a package of malcontents, and pick up some draft picks.

Posted by: wheelerd | April 6, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

to all you wanna be G.m.;s if he doesen:t fit the system and does not want to play nose tackle, along with a bad attitude then get rid of him. But please quit diminishing his value, lets make a deal with a package of malcontents, and pick up some draft picks.

Posted by: wheelerd | April 6, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

You have to respect Shanahan for this though. We need players that want to come here to play. NOT GET PAID!!!

That's clearly all we've seen under the dumb and dumber regime.

Hopefully this is a sign things are going to be a little different around here.

Hail!

Posted by: Jaymand | April 6, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Num of gamechangers on D: 1
% shanny wants to trade: 100

losing confidence in the FO.

Posted by: WorstSeat | April 6, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Until Snyder leaves running the team to the pros the Skins will never rise above mediocroty.

Posted by: Jimbo77 | April 6, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is an overrated fat blob that needs to get his fat ass out of DC where Shanny has taken over and will produce. Nobody has any pride anymore. As much as we paid that fat crybaby his ass should have asked "how high" when Shanny or Snider said "Jump!" Good riddance. It's a shame we have to pay the loser.

Posted by: Ezquire | April 6, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Jeez.
Seems to me, Haynesworth is a pretty talented guy. Yeah, he's not a "Team First" guy, but even so, his absence will be felt immensely on Sundays.

Sucks they couldn't get him to do his job with a smile on his face, but now we know why we ended up with him in the first place.

$ does not = smiles.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Don't know what went on behind the scenes between Shanahan/Allen and AH, but expectations need to be communicated in a professional manner and responded to in a professional manner. Something tells me there was a failure to communicate.

Posted by: MrScrotums | April 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of him NOW. He's got an attitude and will just be a cancer in an organization trying to get it's head on straight. Big price to have paid for this prima donna.

Posted by: bg1fan | April 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

As i have said before players only work when they actually want to play for your team.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | April 6, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I think we are slowly finding out why this team has struggled over the years. The collective work ethic sucks and I am really suprised the Joe Gibbs was a part of this culture.

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Posted by: jfdsiafsak | April 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Glad Shanahan is not going to take any crap Ah is a dominant problem the new regime is looking for team players and the ability to win now. I will be thrilled when we move albert for any pick he would bring nothing to the table,except dinner

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Glad Shanahan is not going to take any crap Ah is a dominant problem the new regime is looking for team players and the ability to win now. I will be thrilled when we move albert for any pick he would bring nothing to the table,except dinner

Posted by: southportwave | April 6, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

We should cut the loss now and send his fat ass to Oakland; I bet Davis would send us a #2 and another pick for him. Dude is a bad guy but that's what you get when Vinny/Danny run the team. Not sure I agree with everything so far but I trust BA/MS much more than the two dopes.
We need to trade JC, AC, maybe Cooley too. We need to pick up at least 2-3 picks in the 2-4th rounds and go hard on the OL.
If you get the QB some time we can find out if Kelly/Thomas are worth hanging on to. I'd like to see M Mitchell get a fair shake....gotta feeling about him.
Lisa - i'd like to know exactly what you are referring too with these dumb mistakes...

Posted by: DESkinzFan1 | April 6, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm fat and only wanna work out when I want to. I can flop around looking hurt better than Bubbles Haynesworth. Where's my check!

Posted by: SSTK34 | April 6, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

AH was representative of the piss-poor play of the Skins. I remember in the N.O. game was it? he and D. Hall were out and the Skins put together their best performance of the season. The following week vs. the Giants, both were back, along with their detrimental attitudes. Final score - 44-12.

I don't really need to say more, at the very least, AH would be a bad influence in the locker room and his fat, lazy azz isn't needed on a truly "professional" football team.

I hope he's gone before draft day - preferably sent to the Lions so he can wallow in misery for the rest of his career.

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Posted by: itkonlyyouqq | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 898551828 | April 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is a "Bad-Apple," but source of this problem originally was Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. If I were Coach Shanahan, I'd be doing exactly the same thing. This will might seem to hurt Mr. Snyder's pocket book, but the true cost of bringing in and bringing down Haynesworth will unfortunately get passed on to the ticket holders.

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year.

How could anyone expect Jim Hazlett to motivate Haynesworth after Cerrato already handed Haynesworth $20 million for doing basically nothing? Can you really blame Haynesworth for shaking down Snyder even worse than Deion Sanders shook Snyder down? This was way too easy. Let the buyer beware!

I sure hope there are teams out there that would be foolish enough to give up a #1 for Haynesworth. If I were Coach Shanahan, I wouldn't let Haynesworth anywhere near the locker room -- I don't care how talented he is. Another great move!

Posted by: dannykurland1 | April 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles have done some stupid things through the years, like having one of the worst passing offenses in history and fixing it by drafting def. ends and guards. I have to say though, that one of the smartest moves they've ever made was not taking Fat Lazy Albert. Being one of the highest paid does not make you one of the best. You just have a good agent.

Posted by: aliben1 | April 6, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

It would be awesome if we could work out a trade with Detroit for their 2nd pick so we could get Okung AND Suh.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM

LOL!!!

#2 pick in the draft for fatty??? Good luck with that.

Why wouldn't Detroit just take Suh then?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 6, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

It would be awesome if we could work out a trade with Detroit for their 2nd pick so we could get Okung AND Suh.

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM

LOL!!!

#2 pick in the draft for fatty??? Good luck with that.

Why wouldn't Detroit just take Suh then?

Posted by: Rypien11 | April 6, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is exactly what we knew he was when we signed him: a supremely talented headcase who misses a whole lot of snaps. He hasn't changed. Don't blame him for cashing $32 million worth of checks for four lousy wins.

Blame Snyder. Snyder also got you McNabb, and we'll be having the same discussion about him next year.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | April 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I would think Detroit would be interested since Schwartz was his coach in Tenn. I wonder if Detroit would trade their 2nd round pick for Haynesworth. Haynesworth would actually be a bargin for another team since Synder has already paid most of the guaranteed money in the contract.

If they trade him Snyder would have wasted over $30 millon for one season. No wonder parking and beer is so expensive at FedEx.

Posted by: skinsFan74 | April 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Ted Leonsis would personally respond to Buster5 -- "worst fan experience in the league." Snyder doesn't pay a dime for his mistakes, because he uses other people's money (OPM). Buster5 makes a lot of sense.

Thank goodness Mr. Snyder changed course and decided to let some real pros run the show. My question is, what happens when the team goes 7 and 9? Can he stay away long enough for the culture to really change? The jury is still out on whether the Skins will be able to rebuild the O-line this year. They need more draft picks!

Posted by: dannykurland1 | April 6, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

The only satisfying thing about this whole episode is watching AH walk away with $31 million of Danny boy's money.

I cannot tell you how happy I am to see the AH signing truly blow up in the faces of the now-defunct Snyderrato combo.

Posted by: dc1020008 | April 6, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

You are the highest paid player on the team and you won't train with your team mates. You need to go. Hats off to Shannahan for getting the locker room back.

Posted by: skinsfanfrmbirth | April 6, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

p1funk,

He is a lazy a$$. The expectation for $40 million is someone that works their tail off in the offseason, gives it their true all on the field on every play they are involved in (see Fletcher), and motivates their teammates as a leader.

Being involved in the 2nd most plays on the D-line isn't something to "wow" and congratulate over; it's at very least what we paid for. Also, consider who else we had on the D-line, specifically at DT:
ancient Daniels (strong, but old and injured in past years)
Griffiths (old and way past his prime)
Golston (part-time starter and paid WAY less than AH - ergo, less expectation)
Montgomery (pretty much a draft bust, so we wouldn't want him out there a lot)

AH got his monster payday and didn't bother coming into the season in shape, and (per expectations) was injured on too many plays. How often did he go on the ground, requiring either team medical staff or on-the-field ambulatory care? It seemed that the fans were always waiting with baited breath expecting him to be out for the season. For the $$ spent, we should have been able to have much more confidence in him as the "elite" athlete he and his agent represented himself as.

He was a player, yet felt he had the authority to bad mouth and publicly criticize his coach (his direct boss) and others that were above him. No one paid to hear his opinion; no one paid him because they thought he was a defensive-minded genius. He undermined his entire team with those actions and that's why people say he's a cancer. Can't blame Shanahan for wanting to stay clear of that type of player.

I'm sick of the holier-than-thou player attitudes and am pleased we have a FO that will NOT put up with it starting from day 1. THEY are the leaders and what they say should be the final word/say and take their direction without question. No more "too many chiefs and not enough chiefs" (no pun intended around the Redskins' name/moniker)

My 2 cents

Posted by: DC2AZ99 | April 6, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year"

Great point Danny kurland

Posted by: DrWho2 | April 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year"

Great point Danny kurland

Posted by: DrWho2 | April 6, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year"

Great point Danny kurland

Posted by: DrWho2 | April 6, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Dump him for a 2nd and a 4th, and I'm good.

Use the 2nd on Terrence Cody, who already has experience at nose in a pro-style 3-4.

Use the 4th on a second lineman. Mike Johnson or equivalent.

Posted by: lordtwang | April 6, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year"

Great point Danny kurland

Posted by: DrWho2 | April 6, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

The culture needs to be radically changed, which is exactly what Coach Shanahan is doing. By changing from long-term, overpriced, guaranteed contracts, to value-based, performance based, incentive-laden contracts, Coach Shanahan and Bruce Allen are dismantling the old culture of entitlement that has existed at Redskin Park for many years. It looks like Snyder has finally realized that he needed to change course. Dumping Haynesworth is just the cost of doing business -- thankfully, we have an uncapped year"

Great point Danny kurland

Posted by: DrWho2 | April 6, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I think people forget that Al was a top professional in his chosen career. People like that in ALL careers, be it construction, law, business, whatever, negotiate the terms of a new job when they change jobs. Al clearly was given assurances that he WOULD NOT be asked to play nose tackle. He has every right to be unhappy about that. I don't care how much money he made, nobody held a gun to Snyders head. Promises were made, and now they are being broken. Everyone says its all business. Well, fine, if its not in the contract that Al has to work out with the team during the off season, business is business, contracts are contracts. And for those always complaining about his conditioning, the guy was in on the 2nd most plays on the D line. Lets see how many sacks Orakpo and Carter get without him. Oh, thats right, Carter's going too. See how many sacks Orakpo gets without Al OR Carter.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Someone said that Fat Albert is in his prime.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Put the straight gin down.
Who said that - Dan Snyder?
Of course to you, Deion, Bruce, Jason Taylor, Joe Gibbs II and Randle-El were in their primes too. And I guess Larry Johnson and the other 60 yr old new RB and MCFattNabb are too.

But they are not. Never are with Dan's over the hill and paid team.

Posted by: kedavis | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey Lisa,

You're an imbecile. Go make me a sandwich.

Posted by: egoodman8 | April 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

When I think of the big ol' check that Dan Snyder just wrote, I think, "A fool and his money are soon parted" and then I laugh. He may be rich and own the team and a bunch of other assets (including buying a huge chunk of that money pit Six Flags), but HE IS A FOOL when it comes to running the Redskins --- and he's paying for it, literally!

Keep screwing up Danny boy. Maybe after you F it all up, you'll finally sell!

Posted by: oldmaninthesea | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Thus goeth all the imbeciles who cried "beast"! "beast"! We need a beast on the D-line! Hayneworth yeah that's the ticket ... ~laughing~

Posted by: periculum | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

When I think of the big ol' check that Dan Snyder just wrote, I think, "A fool and his money are soon parted" and then I laugh. He may be rich and own the team and a bunch of other assets (including buying a huge chunk of that money pit Six Flags), but HE IS A FOOL when it comes to running the Redskins --- and he's paying for it, literally!

Keep screwing up Danny boy. Maybe after you F it all up, you'll finally sell!

Posted by: oldmaninthesea | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

When I think of the big ol' check that Dan Snyder just wrote, I think, "A fool and his money are soon parted" and then I laugh. He may be rich and own the team and a bunch of other assets (including buying a huge chunk of that money pit Six Flags), but HE IS A FOOL when it comes to running the Redskins --- and he's paying for it, literally!

Keep screwing up Danny boy. Maybe after you F it all up, you'll finally sell!

Posted by: oldmaninthesea | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It's like Shanny took over the Lakers and ordered Magic to play power forward and get rebounds. Magic could do that but it would be a waste of his talent. Haynesworth, if used correctly, could help cause those turnovers that Shanny says he wants. Shanny might be doing the old Parcells go-to-a-new-team-and-pick-a-fight-with-the-star-player trick.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 6, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Good luck with this

The Redskins will need to pay a big portion of his salary and a team will need to WANT him as he is a clubhouse cancer

Posted by: Bious | April 6, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I embrace Shannys bad boy attitude with wide open arms!!! Last season I found myself complaining about how BADLY we needed discipline. Along comes Shanny and I can already see the light at the end of the tunnel. All of you skeptical people prepare to eat your words! The way I see it: Out with the bad... In with the good!

McNabb has an outstanding work ethic! He is a true pro! He will run Shanny's offence just like elway did!

Artis Hicks also has a great work ethic! He also has a good rapport with Mcnabb! He also has been part of successful teams and has a winning attitude!

Willie Parker has great experience and is a great influence! He will bust his butt for the team!


Fatsworth is a HUGE lockerroom cancer! He has no work ethic! He will destroy everything that Shanny is trying to accomplish with his selfish "I'm a superstar" attitude if he stays!

Posted by: goskinsgo1 | April 6, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree with someone from above who said don't trade the fat man to Detroit, that would more than likely give them the go ahead to draft Okung. But what would we get for Haynesworth? Maybe a top 10 pick in the 2nd round and a player in return. Maybe the Jags would offer us the best package of players and a pick in return, they have John Henderson and if they would acquire AH, a guy like Terrance Knighton would become expandable, and FS Reggie Nelson has been rumored to be on the outs in Jacksonville's new defense. Those 2 guys and a 3rd or 4th round pick would be an steal for Shanny and company. Knighton is massive space eater at 6-3 325-330 and is young. also he would excel at the NT position. Reggie Nelson is more of a cover FS which isn't a bad thing but he and LL30 might work well together.

Another team who maybe interested is the 49ers, they franchise tagged their stud NT Aubrayo Franklin, who played with Fat Albert in college. I doubt if they would trade Franklin straight up for AH. So maybe something like Kentwan Balmer/Ray McDonald both are young good 3-4 DE, Isaac Sopoaga (NT) or maybe they would part with Franklin, and a mid round draft pick. With their 2 1st round picks if they did trade Franklin they could draft his replacement either Dan Williams or Cam Thomas. It's deals out there for AH as long BA/MS don't go getting greedy and asking for 2 drafts picks or a 1st round pick, me personally I would rather have players in return than draft picks. Let's get it done if not now then on draft day/draft weekend since it's like a 3 day event now.

One more name to look out for is DT/NT Sammie Hill(6-4 330-340) for the Detroit Lions, the only way he gets traded to Detroit is if we agree to swap 1st round picks and they add Sammie Hill or another player of NEED and a mid to late round pick. That way we draft Okung and they can obtain a dominate DT in AH insstead of Suh and still get a LT, they seem to be high on Trent Williams. They had Williams in for a visit today. Something like AH and 4th overall, for Sammie Hill/player, 2nd overall and a mid to late round pick. Why this would benefit the Lions, who made AH a force none other than Jim Schwartz current HC for the Lions. Any of these trade scenarios would be a win win for the Redskins.

Posted by: robbkels | April 6, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

When I think of the big ol' check that Dan Snyder just wrote, I think, "A fool and his money are soon parted" and then I laugh. He may be rich and own the team and a bunch of other assets (including buying a huge chunk of that money pit Six Flags), but HE IS A FOOL when it comes to running the Redskins --- and he's paying for it, literally!

Keep screwing up Danny boy. Maybe after you F it all up, you'll finally sell!

Posted by: oldmaninthesea | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Not to mention all the checks written simply trying to remedy disasters caused by prior check writing stupidity and undoubtedly more stupid checks to come...a vicious circle Shanahan is powerless to resist.. I think that's why they come here Gibbs too! sucked into a spiraling vortex of poor check writing decisions.

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 6, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe they could just be the best in the NFL at their position...which he is.

I don't get it. There is absolutely NO evidence that he's a lockerroom cancer or a bad teammate. He played the 2nd most snaps of any Skins Dlineman, yet he's the laziest blob on the face of the earth.

This is starting to remind me of Gregggggggg Williams when he benched LaVar b/c he wouldn't stand in the right spot - only worse.

Yeah, let's trade AH so some other team can have the best Dlineman in the NFL on our dime.

Then let's sit back and watch Andre Carter revert to a 3-sack season while teams run all over us b/c everyone is still trying to figure out the 3-4 and we have no playmakers on the frontline.

Friggin' brilliant.

Posted by: p1funk | April 6, 2010 6:46 PM

OK, so let's say Butterworth was the best Dlineman in the entire league last season, hands down.

How many wins did that add up to?

Could it be that a lack of discipline, character, and commitment to team contributed to the 'Skins 4-12 season? If so, then it does not matter how good Butterworth was last season. And if improving in these areas requires getting rid of Buffetworth, and this makes you sad, consider this:

4-12.

Posted by: hithere1 | April 6, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

If you grind up JC's freeze dried adenoids, and feed them to AH, he might lose 40 lbs

Then we might get a 1st for both together

Posted by: ElYeah | April 6, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

This is some petty stuff coming from Shanahan. The workouts are voluntary, aren't they? What if nobody takes Haynesworth, then what? We'll have another Gregg Williams/LaVar drama in our hands.

Posted by: thor2 | April 6, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

To my sucker fans:
Thanks for reinvesting your hope in my team every March - August when I add (fill in the blank ____) my new coach every 2 years. Thanks for buying my products and buying into my hope and over-rated optimism every March - August too when I sign or trade for (fill in the blank) someone you know of cause of what they did 25 years ago for another team.

And thanks for not assassinating me when you're angry between September and January when my (fill in the blank) latest coach and additions backfire. Thanks for your support and falling for the same routine each year.

Dan Snyder

Posted by: kedavis | April 6, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh, come on, who's gonna wanna eat Haynesworthless's huge salary? l'm afraid the Skins are gonna be stuck with him, or his huge salary cap hit, for years to come...

Posted by: ketz87 | April 7, 2010 3:24 AM | Report abuse

I am only certain of a few things about the Redskins.

1. Sean Taylor was the truth.
2. Joe Gibbs got the Redskins to three playoff games
3. The Redskins offensive line has been poor the last few years, and the ability to score points has been down, way down.
4. The defense has been ok, but no turn overs, and can't hold a lead.

I would prefer to trust Shannahan and Bruce Allen, but I am confused about the following;

- Letting Clifton leave without signing, do they really have no RT, LT, or starting guard at this point? Amazing.
- Telegraphing to the league that they MUST have an OL from this years draft, if Okung is not available, they could be in real trouble.
- Telegraphing that they are through with Campbell (no trade value)
- Telegraphing that they are through with Haynesworth, after all that money, no trade value.
-Trading picks for McNabb.
- Sticking with 3 old RB's with hihg mileage.
- Bringing in Haslett

The recurring themes are;

- trading away high and mid level draft picks for veterans, gambling that the veterans will stay motivated and produce.
- never placing the appropriate emphasis on offensive line
- Throwing away value by announcing to the world that they are through with a player, often times just because he does not "fit" the schemes of the new flavor of the month coach.
- Never building enough value of players that they get anything in return. When was the last time the skins got draft picks for someone that they themselves drafted?

Posted by: DownTownClown | April 7, 2010 4:44 AM | Report abuse

It's time for Fat Al to go!! Skins fans should be thankful we have a coach in place who doesn't put up with "stars" who don't choose to be part of the team....Zorn definitely wouldn't draw a line in the sand and let the players walk all over him. I'm happy a new sheriff is in town and his name is Mike Shannahan!! We have not always agreed with a lot of what Snyder has done, but if he doesn't mind writing a check for $21 million then getting rid of a guy I'm all for it and all fans should be thankful for that...he's probably the only owner in the league that would do that in hopes of helping the team. Fat Al is not a superstar, not a team player and I hope he's gone!!!

Posted by: jcrabbe1 | April 7, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth will garner a first round pick. No doubt about that. He's a malcontent but he IS dominant when he's on the field. There is no risk really with him versus a draftee.

Posted by: frankjomama | April 7, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

1) Who really cares about Dan Snyder's wasted money, seriously?

2) If we get a 1st-rounder for him, we can really improve this team, especially if DET picks Okung instead of Suh/McCoy. Then one of those studs fall to us and we can get an OL further down in round 1.

3) F Dan Snyder

Posted by: ar652 | April 7, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

If Roy Williams garnered 1st, 3rd, and 5th round picks Haynesworth is good for at least a 1st. Maybe 1st and 3rd.

Posted by: Sheriff_Gonna_Getcha | April 7, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

As a life long skins fan. I feel Fat Albert should be traded to Hollywood. He could then fill the role of "Fat Bas%#&d" in the next Mike Meyers/Austin Powers film. This may be a better position for him. Because the role of nose tackle/team player is beyond his repetoire.

Posted by: sputnik59 | April 7, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Oh, come on, who's gonna wanna eat Haynesworthless's huge salary? l'm afraid the Skins are gonna be stuck with him, or his huge salary cap hit, for years to come...

Posted by: ketz87 | April 7, 2010 3:24 AM | Report abuse
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If you take the time to come on here and post, you should at least avail yourself of the facts by READING the articles. Fat Al's contract is basically 9 mil guaranteed over the next 3 years. Snyder already paid him $32 mil guaranteed and converted most of it to the uncapped year in 2010.

The contract would be very appealing to a team trading for him at this point, especially if Snyder is willing to forgo any financial compensation on the roster bonus he just paid ($21mil)

Getting Haynesworth for 9 mil over 3 years will be a good bet for someone out there.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 7, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

For all of you that seem to have a love affair with Haynesworth. Here is the deal - he has expressed he doesn't want to play in a 3-4 defense as a nose tackle. Now, if you are converting to this style of play and a player has commented that they don't want to play this position, then you have only two options 1) diminish his role and use him sparringly, or 2) let him go - get what you can get and wash your hands of him. Personally, he is a force when he is out there, but if I'm getting $100 million dollars to play in a sport that only 2% of those players on a college team get a chance to step up to the next level. I'm coming to camp in shape, ready to play every down - defense and offense. There is no excuse, other than an injury, that a professional football player to show up to work out of shape. That is inexcusable. And for him to say I'm going to work out on my own, well we've all seen that doesn't work for him. He needs supervision.

If the organization has viewed him as a cancer to the overall philosophy of the team. I'm all for letting him go (if we can get two 2nd round picks for him - FINE WITH ME!)

Posted by: MrKeys | April 7, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

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