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Redskins players tired of the Albert Haynesworth drama

Redskins players faced a volley of questions again Monday about Albert Haynesworth's ongoing tiff with Coach Mike Shanahan, and the subject is clearly among their least favorite.

"At some point, you got to stop going back and forth with it," outside linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said. "But I think Albert has been doing a good job until then; just a bad judgment call on his part, as far as forcing it out. You can't go back and forth in the media with this type of thing.

"It's only going to cause distractions and this is all we're going to focus on. We're not going to focus on the game and what happened in the game, what's going on with the Jets. We talk about Albert and Coach Shanahan going back and forth. Frankly, I'm tired of talking about. We talked about it all offseason and we continue to talk about it."

Haynesworth lashed out after Saturday night's 23-3 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, saying the team is underplaying the severity of the medical condition that prompted him to sit out practices at Redskins Park. Haynesworth also contended that team officials are still holding his absence during the offseason conditioning program against him, and said he plans to skip next season's voluntary conditioning program.

In speaking with reporters after the game, Haynesworth never mentioned Shanahan by name, but multiple team sources said the two-time all-pro performer's anger is directed at Shanahan, who has described Haynesworth's condition as "more of a headache than anything else."

Haynesworth declined to reveal specifics about maladies that prompted him to cut short his participation in practice Tuesday as well as miss the Wednesday and Thursday sessions, but three team sources said Haynesworth was told he had a mild case of rhabdomyolysis, a condition that causes the rapid breakdown of skeletal muscle because of injury to tissue.

Haynesworth did not speak with the media before practice, but he and inside linebacker London Fletcher "had a great conversation," Fletcher said. "I feel good about where he's at today. Just speaking to him, I think he's definitely on board with what we're trying to do.

"He's come in since the beginning of training camp and really bought into the defensive scheme that we have, that we've put in place. The media doesn't always see everything. He's being attentive in meetings. He's doing all the things that you want every football player to do in order for us to be successful. I think moving forward, we're going to be all good."

Of course, it would help if there were no more Haynesworth-Shanahan dust ups.

"Absolutely," safety Reed Doughty said. "As a team, it's one of those things where you just want to focus on football. The quicker we can do that, I think the better we'll be."

By Jason Reid  |  August 23, 2010; 12:38 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

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What am I teaching my daughters?

I tell them that a woman with her own money doesn't need a man.

A highly educated, attractive woman can select the type of guy she wants to be with.

And once said man is located, I told them only one thing matters.

"If he's a skins' fan, give him all the fellation he wants."

"But if he is a cowboys' fan, send him to a contortionist so he can learn to blow himself."

"That is, if he can't do that already."

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 23, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

second

Posted by: STisMyMainMan | August 23, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Practically speaking, Shanahan has NO leash at all. Snyder needs Shanahan more than Shanahan needs Snyder. Its a rare case where the HC/president has more power than the owner.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 23, 2010 12:24 PM

I respectfully disagree. This road has been traveled often enough before to see the pattern. While I hope for the best, I can't ignore the past.

Posted by: Alan4

My response. Danny is crossing a threshold. An economic threshold. He had a long waiting list for tix. There's plenty of evidence that the waiting list is gone. He's also managed to turn off a large portion of the fan base (stadium sucks, sues ticket holders, etc).

The waiting list underwrote the value of this franchise while also supporting ticket prices, etc. Unless Danny can get the wait list back, this value of the team he (mostly) owns will be half, maybe less, of what is was just a few years ago.

Danny has several $100million on the line -- depending on whether he can or can't revitalize the fan base.

Danny needs Mike Shanahan to succeed. If Danny fires Shanahan, Shanahan will easily get another job -- and collect a bunch of $$ from Danny in the process. Shanahan has little to lose in the deal.

Bottom line, Shanahan has the power in this relationship -- because of the bottom line.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 23, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Can Shanny and AH do the same thing a the Jets and Revis? Keep it out of the media.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Danny has several $100million on the line -- depending on whether he can or can't revitalize the fan base.

Danny needs Mike Shanahan to succeed. If Danny fires Shanahan, Shanahan will easily get another job -- and collect a bunch of $$ from Danny in the process. Shanahan has little to lose in the deal.

Bottom line, Shanahan has the power in this relationship -- because of the bottom line.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 23, 2010 12:50 PM

I agree with you that it's in Snyder's best interest for Shanahan to succeed. On the other hand, the Skins still make more money than any other professional sports franchise in the country. Their estimated annual revenue is $345M (Forbes). The next closest is the Yankees, at around $320M per year. And this is AFTER 5 straight losing seasons!

Winning will fix everything, of course. But short of that, Snyder knows that bringing in the next big name like Deion Sanders and Jason Taylor (I hope I'm not adding McNabb and Shanahan to this list in a few years) will keep fans interested.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course there are real homers for the Cowboys, and Yankees, and Lakers but those people have at least a little class and don't troll on enemy turf like these bottom feeders. These bottom feeders are so unaware of the role they play, it's comical, sad, and embarrassing. The Cowboy homers won't have them, so they come here.

Posted by: sorenoid | August 23, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse


Whoa, whoa, wait.... let's not group the Cowboys in with the Lakers and Yankees. The Yankees are the defending World Champions, and the Lakers are 2 time defending Champions. The Cowboys haven't even been to a Super Bowl (let alone won) since Melrose Place went off the air.

Plus, the Lakers were once owned by Jack Kent Cooke, so they can't be that bad.

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | August 23, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARESSSSSSS!!!!! send him home already shanny....

repost:

Tyrone Carter is a solid pickup...played a lot in Pittsburgh, particularly when Polamalu was out. He seems to be around the ball quite a bit, which is always a good thing at safety. Also plays both safety spots well...love this signing for a one or two year stopgap.

Hate that we got rid of Draft though...I'm still not convinced that our LB depth is where it needs to be and having him as the 3rd or 4th ILB could only help. I guess it shouldn't be a shock that a team that doesn't like using the draft should get rid of a guy with the name Draft too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 23, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, don't really think there's much of a huge difference between unproven late round Moore and veteran of the system Carter. Obviously Moore has the upside but for now, I'll take a guy that has been getting regular playing time in Pittsburgh for 5 seasons as a fill in. My bigger concern that has seemed pretty glaring for two preseason games now is the Carter/Alexander linebacker experiment. They've seemed slow and out of place in coverage in both games.....hoping they either make a move or give Chris Wilson a shot.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Reed D., you focus on getting faster. You are a liability at FS. Stay away from the mic and try and make a play on the ball.

Posted by: edavis291 | August 23, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I"d love to have an opportunity to leave a real, stinky, juicy "upper decker" in Fat Albert's house.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 23, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

New RI Poll:

What is the biggest waste of RI time?

A. AH non-updates
B. MK12 hammy updates
C. Any Jason Reid post (typically a cut-n-paste from another source)
D. RI posters feeding Cowgirl trolls

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Great point, dmorgan6617.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 23, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Reed D., you focus on getting faster. You are a liability at FS. Stay away from the mic and try and make a play on the ball.

Posted by: edavis291 |


Well, newfound speed is probably not going to happen, but unfortunately for Reed, he might have put his role into question the other night. I'd like to see what Lendy can offer back there, because Reed in space is probably not a good situation.

Posted by: AdamCr | August 23, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Tyrone Carter is a solid pickup...played a lot in Pittsburgh, particularly when Polamalu was out. He seems to be around the ball quite a bit, which is always a good thing at safety. Also plays both safety spots well...love this signing for a one or two year stopgap.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 23, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Not sure about that brown.

I guess we're scraping the bottom of the barrel and could do worse than Tyrone Carter, but at 34 he seems like a guy who's going to konw the defense, but is too old/slow to play it.

Last year when Troy went down, the Pitt secondary became a big-time liability and was one of the reasons the team missed the playoffs down the stretch as they couldn't hold leads.

Those guys made Bruce gradkowski look like Tom Brady...and that's not good.

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Can Shanny and AH do the same thing a the Jets and Revis? Keep it out of the media.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse
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Sure, if Fatbert goes home. But as long as he is in camp and yakking to the media, this is going to continue.

Now, in my opinion, there is a good chance that Fatbert crossed the line with this outburst, and it forced Shanahan's play out on the table: 'Practice and play or hit the highway'.

Now, if Al continues down this road, you might see a Terrel Owens / Keyshawn Johnson type situation.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Last year when Troy went down, the Pitt secondary became a big-time liability and was one of the reasons the team missed the playoffs down the stretch as they couldn't hold leads.

Posted by: p1funk | August 23, 2010 1:07 PM


I've watched more than my fair share of Steelers football the last few years (I live up in PA) and I can assure you the problem with Pittsburgh's secondary had very little to do with Carter. He was on the team and bears some of the responsibility, but they had a lot of really young and inexperienced corners there. They thought they could go young and cheap at CB and they lost that bet. Plus they run so much of that defense thru Polamalu that the unit is completely exposed when he's not in the lineup.

I'm not saying Carter is some grand solution to our problems here...but we could do a helluva lot worse at FS if all he's doing is holding Moore's spot for him the first month of the season.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 23, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Not sure about the Carter pick up, he's fast like Horton, but Reed's smarter and reads (no pun intended) the offense better than both of them (Carter and Horton). Just wish he was a bit faster. Carter and Horton tend to get out of position a lot and try to make it up with their speed. That's what killed the steeler's last year.

Posted by: drmammal1 | August 23, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Now, if Al continues down this road, you might see a Terrel Owens / Keyshawn Johnson type situation.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 23, 2010 1:07 PM

From what I understand, you can't do "a Terrel Owens / Keyshawn Johnson type situation" anymore. Most important, it'll take both parties to stop with the verbal tit for tat in the media. Either cut/trade AH, or agree to keep the media out of the middle. Do either or for the sake of the team.

Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

100 MILLION DOLLARS !!!!!! Shut your mouth and earn your paycheck !!!!!!

Posted by: cowbell | August 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Beeps Peeps

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

From Rich Campbell..

#Redskins not practicing: Kelly (hamstring), McNabb (aircast on left ankle), Sellers (knee), Moore (knee). ...Trent Williams is practicing. 14 minutes ago

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Posted by: TWISI | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE REPORT ON SOMETHING INTERESTING. I'M SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT AH, WHO CARES!

Posted by: jacksonalex | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

WHO CARESSSSSSS!!!!! send him home already shanny....

repost:

Tyrone Carter is a solid pickup...played a lot in Pittsburgh, particularly when Polamalu was out. He seems to be around the ball quite a bit, which is always a good thing at safety. Also plays both safety spots well...love this signing for a one or two year stopgap.

Hate that we got rid of Draft though...I'm still not convinced that our LB depth is where it needs to be and having him as the 3rd or 4th ILB could only help. I guess it shouldn't be a shock that a team that doesn't like using the draft should get rid of a guy with the name Draft too...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 23, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, don't really think there's much of a huge difference between unproven late round Moore and veteran of the system Carter. Obviously Moore has the upside but for now, I'll take a guy that has been getting regular playing time in Pittsburgh for 5 seasons as a fill in. My bigger concern that has seemed pretty glaring for two preseason games now is the Carter/Alexander linebacker experiment. They've seemed slow and out of place in coverage in both games.....hoping they either make a move or give Chris Wilson a shot.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 23, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I cant really agree with this. When Polamalu went down the steelers D looked very ordinary all the sudden, he is clearly the largest factor to that D's successes.
I would much prefer that we walk the walk and try out some of the younger guys. I already know what Doughty can do as a free saftey, i don't like it much.
Lendy Holmes would be a kid to look at right now. He can play the FS spot as he has played it in college on top of playing corner back in college where he displayed some great hands.
Every one keeps saying we need to get younger but then applaud signing vets like Carter. Give the kids a chance...

Posted by: Stu27 | August 23, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert would do well to go back in history and find out what happened to another "Star" but malcontent defensive tackle by the name of Daryl Gardener. After a one year stint in Denver after leaving Washington via free agency, does anyone even remember him anymore?

Posted by: garmistry | August 23, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

damn, im finally sick of this

dude, nobody's against you, i guarantee every Skins fan wants you to be defensive player of the year and help us win the super bowl, granted im not saying i love every Skins player, but i sure as hell hope they do well, i hope the best for rabach even though i dont like the guy as a football player

just get over it al

We're all part of the Washington Redskins organization one way or another. You get paiddddd to be apart of the Skins b/c you are a player

i have to pay b/c im a fan, so i'm part shareholder of this organization and i'd like to say shut the f up

im glad you had a meeting with LF59 b/c he's the hear and soul of this organization right now and talking to him is exactly what you should be doing

Posted by: retroskins14 | August 23, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I have an idea...how about all of the reporters stop asking about it and then the players won't have to answer the same stupid questions about it and we can all just move on...this saga is not news and all you do is storke AH's ego when you give his comments any coverage....

Posted by: rot8tor_man | August 23, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Excellent article by Sally Jenkins today! All of us Redskins fans should be squarely on the Allen/Shanahan side of camp. AH has played his trump suit...it didn't work....it's not gonna work. Maybe it would have worked with Zorn, but not with Shanahan. Personally, I love what Shan is doing. AH came to the wrong team to try this monkey business with.....maybe it would fly elsewhere. Any Redskins fan worth their salt, would tell this tub that our team is much, MUCH bigger than him or than any one player. We are monumental in the NFL. WE, THE REDSKINS, ARE AMERICAS TEAM (F dallas by the way). I say get whatever we can for him and lick our wounds...but he needs to go. Forget what he can or cannot do for us on the field....his attitude will stifle success for our boys for a long time if we dont get him out of there.

HAIL!!

Posted by: httr1969 | August 23, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

As fars as Doughty is concerned I think he's the best player outta those 3 for one reason..he's by far the best open field tackler. Look at film last year or even last week.(I have season tix so I was there.) Yeah he's not the fastest but he doesn't used his shoulder pads to tackle he wraps up (usually around the ankle area) and tackles in space.

We don't need him to fly, just to get to the edge and tackle and he does that. He's less of a free roamer than horton or even Laron for that matter. He's smart and he brings people down. No he doesn't hit as hard as horton or laron landry but he doesn't whiff trying to decapitate people either..he shuffles his feet and waits and grabs guys by the legs and waist and stops them whether its a rb or a wr. He will get better at anticipating because of his high football iq and that is far better than footspeed. Example....Lavar Arrington vs. Fletcher....Lavar is faster a better hitter...but fletch is smarter more discliplined...lavar isn't playing anymore..London has lead the team in tackles the last 3 years.

Posted by: DGreen28BestEver | August 23, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Lorenzo, you gotta stop going back and forth with this Haynesworth circus.

Bad judgment call by Albert? He has made nothing but self-centered, bad judgments his entire career.

Why do you think the Titans let him go without a whimper? They wanted him to go somewhere else and blow up that locker room.

He's no good to the team if his attitude is all "me' and no team. Besides, he doesn't do the team any good sitting out 4-6 games a year because he hasn't been in shape to play since he was first drafted.

Posted by: BigTrees | August 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS FANS TIRED OF MEDIA DRAMA
i, for one, am sick of the media stirring up trouble ... i watched the interview with Albert ... and yes ... he said some things he shouldn't have (he IS human) ... but it was the media that was pressing him about the issue ... and then as soon as he complied by giving them their soundbites ... they turned to Shannahan and the other players to try to stir things up with them ... but of course it's Albert who is the villain ... I DON'T THINK SO !!! ... am i the only one that notices that it's the media creating the drama???? ... THE GREAT AND POWERFUL D.C. MEDIA ... who can do no wrong ... and it's not just D.C. ... the media everywhere thinks the sport exists for them ... to give them a platform to perform ... they are the "headliners" ... they are the "show" ... they dictate where our attention is ... and if the players and coaches don't cooperate ... they get fined ... if the Redskins players could really tell you who they are sick of ... who do think they would say??? ... oh yes ... THE MEDIA ... i love the way Shannahan responded by not addressing the issue ... it's between Albert and the team ... the media is simply looking for drama ... and by all accounts Albert has been towing the line (consult the interview with Fletcher - and if you don't belive him then you need medication) ... so he got frustrated ... he was low key ... and he was goaded into saying things he shouldn't have ... but the real evidence of who is creating the drama is what happened next ... the media went straight to the coaches and players and tried to get them to react ... is this what we as fans really want from our media???? ... is this the impact we want the media to have on our teams??? ... fans, players and coaches alike, all want the team to be successfull ... the media wants drama ... they have the Jerry Springer Syndrome ... anything for some good conflict and drama ... who cares if it's at the expense of harmony and good chemistry in the locker room ... it's what they think we fans want ... so it's up to us to show it's not ok ... i would love to see fans just post two words over and over and over and over for the next couple of days ... COME ON FANS !!! ... they have given us a voice with these posts and comments ... let's use it ... if you want our Redskins to get down to work and stop the distractions of the Haynesworth situation ... then let's make the media STOP THE DRAMA ... just post: "LAY OFF" ... two words ... again and again and again until they get the message ... for once let's stand united in a cause ... let's get behind our Redskins (even Albert) and let the coaches and players determine the mood with Albert ... NOT THE DRAMA QUEENS OF THE MEDIA ... POST IT !!!! ... "LAY OFF"

Posted by: obx13 | August 23, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

So, obx13, you're saying that a full grown adult man is incapable of controlling his own thoughts and the words that he chooses to say?

Does that pass in your place of work? Do you get to lay out your boss and then demand sympathy because your secretary goaded you into saying what you said?

Face it, Haynesworth is an adult and should be held accountable for every word that comes out of his mouth. He also works for Shannahan and should pay him the respect that his position commands, let alone his years of experience, success and personal sacrifice for excellence.

In comparison, Haynesworth and his career accomplishments are a footnote.

If Hayesworth sincerely wants to put this behind him, he should issue a public apology to Shannahan and then shut up and let his practice work and play performance speak for him.

Yes, the media should learn when to back off, but they have a job to do, too, and can't be criticized for asking the question every time they get the chance. It makes for good news coverage and that's what they are in business for.

Haynesworth just has to grow up, quit thinking of only himself, take his foot out of his mouth and then shove a sock in it. Just leave an air hole so he can suck wind while running to the Gatorade cooler.

Posted by: skinssox01 | August 23, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Albert Haynesworth is nothing but a big *&^%$*^baby. I have a 6 year old nephew that has more backbone, credibility, guts, fortitude, BRAINS, class, valor and all around virtues than this slug. He has to be one of top five most ungrateful athletes to have participated in any sport, professional or otherwise, that I've heard of or seen in my lifetime. What is his malfunction, how can someone be such a crybaby and play pro football. I love the redskins and want to see them in the Superbowl, just like every other fan, but I'd rather see them lose than watch that piece of lard wallow around in his own self pity. He just makes everyone one else in his line of work look like ungrateful ingrates. Knowing that there are lot a guys out there that do a lot to give children someone to look up to, you would think, that if he has kids that he would want them to be proud of him but his actions are from such. As crappy as this world is, all the people dying for such idiotic reasons of all kinds and this dip&$^( can't even show a little bit of class considering the large amount of compensation he's receiving for something that is intended to simply help people unwind & enjoy a few hours on a Sunday afternoon to simply forget about life for awhile, doing something he supposedly loves and shouldn't be acting like such a fool in front of people that pay the outrageous salaries these guys make just so others can forget how miserable their everyday grind is for some. What a shame, shame on him, stand up and fly right Albert, we're watching and so is the man upstairs. All can be forgiven, just make up your mind to play and think about all the children that would love to have the opportunity you have been given. Everybody can change, so like Nike says, Just Do It!! Make us proud, yeah your fans that put the extra zero's on your paycheck!!! Win or lose, show some pride in yourself and don't be like some of the other spoiled brats, being cool is doing the right thing, not doing what everyone else does. If you want to emulate someone who proved to be one of the most dominant lineman ever and even helped his opponent up off the field from time to time, way classy and even more humiliating than anything else and even a better form of mental competition. One of the first real big 300+ lb lineman who dominated and should be in the Hall (DAVE BUTZ) he could have played in any era and had sportmanship. We can forgive & forget just give it a try!!

Posted by: thjune81970 | August 24, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

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