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Redskins will give Haynesworth a third chance to pass physical

After failing another conditioning test, Albert Haynesworth will be given a third attempt to pass it before the Redskins practice Saturday morning.

For the second straight day, Haynesworth was unable to complete the two 300-yard shuttle runs early Friday morning at Redskins Park. Haynesworth will take the same test in hopes of being cleared for practice. Sources said each 300-yard run must be completed in 71 seconds,

Meanwhile, some players have privately expressed concern that Coach Mike Shanahan is simply trying to make an example of Haynesworth because he skipped all but one day of Shanahan's first offseason program. One Redskins defensive player said few players are capable of passing the test only Haynesworth has been required to take because he failed to attend at least 50 percent of the Redskins' offseason workouts.

Other defensive linemen have said that while they ran the same drill as part of the offseason conditioning program, they weren't timed.

Even some team officials acknowledge Haynesworth is clearly in shape and has dropped about 35 pounds since last season. Shanahan is expected to address the situation after practice.

"I'm tired of this [expletive]," Haynesworth told NBC4 Thursday evening. "I just want to get out on field and play football.

By Jason Reid  |  July 30, 2010; 10:39 AM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

"I'm tired of this [expletive]"

So that's why he keeps taking restroom breaks...

Posted by: nfcBEaST | July 30, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for 2 300yd shuttles? Holy crap. That would be tough to do for Santana Moss running in a straight line.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The comments from the players is what I was talking about.

Posted by: TWISI | July 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Whoa...the immovable object (Shanny) meets the very stoppable force (Big Al). And the question is, what happens if Albert doesn't pass the 9th, 10th, 11th test? Does Shanny cut him a break? Or just cut him?

Posted by: boothintexas | July 30, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE TIRED... YOU FAT BASTARD!!!!

Posted by: BarackObama | July 30, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

ONLY DUMB a$& DEANGELO HALL WOULD DEFEND THIS FAT F$#%

Posted by: BarackObama | July 30, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for 2 300yd shuttles? Holy crap. That would be tough to do for Santana Moss running in a straight line.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:46 AM

I think that's 71 seconds, each, not 71 seconds for both.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for a 300-yard run. That is nothing. That's a 7-minute mile pace for less than a 1/4 mile of a run.

There's nfw "few players are capable" of passing this fitness test. You have got to be kidding me.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

My guess is he passes tomorrow. Shanahan has created some sympathy among his teammates so they will be more accepting of him and established himself as the bad cop. Let's put this behind us and get ready for dallas. HTTR

Posted by: wireman65 | July 30, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm tired of this [expletive]"

So that's why he keeps taking restroom breaks...

Posted by: nfcBEaST


LOL

Posted by: Predator48 | July 30, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

of course shanahan is making an example of him. and rightly so

Posted by: slim4 | July 30, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

CUT HIM... ITS JUST DANNY THE $%#'S MONEY.... HE GOTS PLENTY MORE OF IT....

Posted by: BarackObama | July 30, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Even some team officials acknowledge Haynesworth is clearly in shape and has dropped about 35 pounds since last season. Shanahan is expected to address the situation after practice.

By Jason Reid | July 30, 2010; 10:39 AM ET


Again...losing weight and having your cardio up to speed are two different things.

Shanahan knows what he's doing. His end game will be apparent soon enough.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I guarantee Haynesworth will "pass" this one, which is why it was announced.
The message has been sent, Albert is pissed and hungry now. He'll pass, and the team will come together Shanahan's a genius.

I stand and applaud.

Posted by: Predator48 | July 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"I'm tired of this [expletive]," Haynesworth told NBC4 Thursday evening. "I just want to get out on field and play football."

You brought it on yourself, big man.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I think that's 71 seconds, each, not 71 seconds for both.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse


That's not how it reads but if that's the case, then there's no way he should get on the field until he completes it. That's a jog.

Can we get clarification on this, Mr. Reid?

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

You can be in great football shape and not be able to complete this (esp for DTs)

Posted by: merajc86 | July 30, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"I'm tired of this [expletive]," Haynesworth told NBC4 Thursday evening. "I just want to get out on field and play football."

After one day he's tired of this sh_t? Really? Shows you what he's made of. The FO was tired of YOUR sh_t months ago and had to put up with it... grow up, man up and shut your mouth.

All of the belly-achers crying about how no one else had to do it... Well, the other players were working out & monitored for OTA's and Mini-Camp... and voluntarily lifting and training in excess of those requirements... so the Staff COULD gauge their individual fitness and COMMITMENT... they are not just testing FA's fitness, but his commitment, and based on the above quote, THAT really has not changed. How shocking.

Shanny is proving a point. And it might be the FO's method to get FA to throw in the towel and walk out of camp... thus allowing the Skins to go after some of the 21 meeeellion dollars! Just a hypothetical, of course.

Posted by: bschaef12 | July 30, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Don't know if anybody posted this already, but the junkies had a guy report from skins park this morning that had a little diff twist to it:

He said he got this from people that saw the whole thing in person...sounds like he went out with Haslett and did a series a 50 yard sprints (6) twice, although he didn't mention the timeframe.

The important thing he reported was that ah didn't seem to be laboring at all, so it sounds like maybe he's dogging it a little. Maybe he doesn't want to pass, and is trying to make shanny look the fool?

Either way, just hope it ends soon, there's a lot better things we could be talking about!

Posted by: stevek20147 | July 30, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"I'm tired of this [expletive],"

yeah, so are we...

"I just want to get out on field and play football."

if you really did bud, you would've been at the minicamps.

I just can't believe the guy can't keep his mouth shut right now, he could've easily played the role of the victim in the public eye if he kept going out there and didn't complain. But after the first day? Wow...

Posted by: aldo_raine | July 30, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Shannahan needs to be careful here. He has the the high road right now with Haynesworth but if he keeps this up, he'll quickly lose it.

Posted by: CapsNut | July 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Three strikes and you're out?

We can dream.

Suggest a straight up trade with the Nats for Dunn.

Skins get a player who is willing to play for the home team and just for the sake of playing...

... and the Nats get another circus side show attraction to match the racing presidents and hot dog shooters.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Vic1 | July 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Can we get clarification on this, Mr. Reid?

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

This is funny, sort of like:

"We need a voice of reason to calmly guide us through this...anyone have Mel Gibson's cell #"

or

"I have some cash to invest Mr. Madoff, any thoughts..."

or

"We need a designated driver...Lindsay, you in?"

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | July 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I am sure Shanny knows what he is doing, but we dont want a malcontent in the locker room either...having said that, I bet when he completes it, Shanny will be the first to congratulate and heap praise on the big fella and probably be the most excited.

Pretty good motivator, hell he even has Portis on the bus...

Posted by: mhartz1 | July 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

if the NBC4 quote is accurate, AH is not ready to buy into the idea that he is part of a team that follows the coach's direction.

Posted by: babobeach | July 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

This shuttle test is a standard used by most pro teams and many college ones too. It consists of marker cones and lines are placed 25 yards apart to indicate the sprint distance. Start with a foot on one line. When instructed by the timer, the player runs to the opposite 25-yard line, touches it with their foot, turns and run back to the start. This is repeated six times without stopping (covering 300 yards total). After a rest of five minutes, the test is repeated. The 71 seconds in question is the avaerage time he must have. Most Big 10 linemen avarage in the high 60 second low 70 second time frame...shouldn't be a show-stopper who is being paid so much money to be in shape and perform. Stay tough Shanahan, Hey FAT ALBERT good job losing some of your girth, maybe work on conditioning too!

Posted by: Dami-Dude | July 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I hate to break from the lovely AH discussion (eye roll), but it looks like we have a destination for Carlos Rogers if we decide to trade him:

Ravens secondary suffers another massive blow: Foxworth out for year
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 30, 2010 10:51 AM ET
Entering training camp, Ravens starting cornerback Dominique Foxworth was practically the only member of the team's secondary that wasn't injured.

Now he's out for the season.

Multiple reports out of Baltimore indicate Foxworth tore his ACL, apparently during the Ravens' non-contact "orientation" practice on Thursday.

This is a devastating blow for a secondary that we already wrote about was in rough shape heading into camp. The next two best cornerbacks on the team -- Lardarius Webb and Fabian Washington -- are both recovering from their own torn ACLs from last year and are uncertain to be ready for the start of the season. Ed Reed's status is also up in the air.

G.M. Ozzie Newsome has some major work to do.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

It really doesn't matter what the other players think. The Redskins have been losers for many years precisely because those in charge have been listening to and/or caring about what the players think. hank God it's over.

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I think that's 71 seconds, each, not 71 seconds for both.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thats how I read it.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

This is boring, I want to hear about Albert Haynesworth, how's that guy doing?

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | July 30, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Albert, you stink.

All you had to do was show up and work like everybody else.

But no, you had to be a big-dumb-a$$-Idiot about it, all you did was embarrass yourself, the team and your momma who should whomp your b-hind for acting out like this....

Now just leave since you don't want to be here, you stinking bum!

Posted by: Tobor58 | July 30, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I blame JIM ZORN for Foxworths injury

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Can someone talk about what the Skins are going to do vs. the NFC East, like trying to beat the Boys, Giants, and Eagles 4 or more times out of the 6 times we play them. This just in, but the Skins are the laughing stock of the division. The Eagles gave the Skins their franchise QB of the past decade, and if you remember, in the last matchup, onside kicked the opening kickoff and basically spotted the Skins 10 points and came back from 11 down to win. The Boys shut the Skins out on Sunday night/National TV, and basically played 3 minutes of offense in the first game to beat the Skins 7-6 in the first matchup. And the Giants thoroughly kicked their behinds in both games last year.

Bottom line: If the Skins goal is to make playoffs, they've gotta go from losing all their divisional games to winning 4 of the 6 in their division. If this isn't their main focus, than what the hell are they playing for?

Posted by: bernard_thompson | July 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

G.M. Ozzie Newsome has some major work to do.

Posted by: brownwood26

Stonehands Rogers for a 3rd rounder Oz?

Posted by: Predator48 | July 30, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse


Military = Boot Camp


Posted by: hessone


Fixed it for you, hess. And this ain't the military. In the military if you hit the lottery for a substantial amount they discharge you. Why? Because you're now paid and they have no more control over you.

See where I'm going with this?

Posted by: RedDMV

Loud and clear !
Just used it as an example.

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

So 23 seconds to run 100 yards, no pads.

Now I believe this would equal out to a 9.46 40? Correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see how many of the linemen on this team can pass this test. Albert's clearly in shape. Everyone just remembers how he struggled last year, but he's not Fat Albert anymore.

Posted by: skinsfan360 | July 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think that's 71 seconds, each, not 71 seconds for both.

Posted by: beep-beep | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thats how I read it.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 11:05 AM
___________________________________________
What I read yesterday is that the 300 was not all at once... it was 6 separate shuttles with 90 secs between... then the "intermission" before running it a second time...

Posted by: bschaef12 | July 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I tried to tell you all. AH's teammates are not unthinking behemoths who go along with everything they see, even if they're mad at AH. Players ultimately stick together and they want to win. There's no other player on the D-Line that can have the impact of a Haynesworth AND HIS TEAMMATES KNOW IT. Like it or lump it, Shanny better cut the crap and start bringing this team together!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Ok Big Mike you have proved your point. Time to bring Al in with the rest of the team and start getting them on the same page. Enough of your ego. You need to win now.

How many other players could pass the test?

Posted by: larue58 | July 30, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse


@gtown85
Uh, you keep repeating. Go away. Thanks

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

You fake ass wanna be drill sergeants kill me! Love all the advocates of discipline, but probably are the same ones who don't even discipline your own children or still cry to this day when you can't get your way -- wouldn't know discipline if it smacked your mother and spit in your face.

Probably the only running you've done in the last few years is with your mouth and chasing the ice cream trucks.

'Oh, it's not that hard, any athlete in shape should be able to complete the drill.'

Like you would know.

Raise your hand if you participated in such a drill... c'mon get 'em up... no one? Okay raise your hand if you participated in Shanahan's training camp... Aw, c'maaaaaaon, nobody? Aight last one: Raise your hand if you attended a NFL training camp, peroid.... Aw, CA'mon...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Predator, I'd take that 3rd rounder sprinting back to Ashburn, giggling the whole way...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for twelve 25 yard sprints reversing 300#+ of momentum 11 times is non-trivial. I'm actually impressed that he has passed the first tries!

Nonetheless, punishment earned, punishment delivered.

Posted by: fr3dmars | July 30, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Red, I'm raising my hand because I run 20 miles a week, swim 4 miles a week and bike 50 miles a week.

I'm not being snarky, I just really believe that AH could pass this if he was nuts to the wall about doing so.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | July 30, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Well, after reading this, I stand corrected. But it does show that all ofthe players that were around here all summer proved enough by working out with/for the team, they all proved themselves enough. Albert, nobody had a clue about him, and anyone else that hasn't been here voluntarily would get the same treatment. So, Al falls 2 more days behind the others in the system and is told to do about 6 to 8 hours of cardio workouts because he missed the WHOLE offseason---BOO HOO. THe message to all is be prepared, earn your spot and show respect. Again, if this isn't over by saturday morning, then its overkill. His next challenge for the next few weeks will be to learn the system and climb the depth chart by making plays. Pretty simple, I think.

Posted by: razor25 | July 30, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

if what dami-dude wrote above is true, then that doesn't seem that hard to complete. I mean, run 150 yards in 71 second?? I'm on the wrong side of 40, and I think I could do that.....

brown, Ravens are desperate...but are they hands of stone/6 int's in 5 years desperate....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Uh, you keep repeating. Go away. Thanks

Posted by: hessone

And you keep slurping Shanny. Enough. T'anks!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

When I played sports as a kid, damn right we had to do this stuff. Come on Red, you never had to do this playing any sports as a kid?

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Why would Albert say anything to the press? What a moron.

Posted by: Rex91 | July 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

OK, I failed reading comprehension today but Coach says I can take the test again tomorrow.

I read it as the test, which consists of 2 300yd shuttles, must be completed in 71 seconds.


@gtown85

arguing with hessone = power rankings.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth comment: "I'm tried of this sh*t" just drives home my point that Shanahan can run Albert around as many cones as he wants while rat grinning from ear to ear, and that still will not change who Haynesworth is.

**From the last hread**

'And if that happens [if being if Haynesworth decides to just quit take his money], where does it get the TEAM? How does it make them better? How does it earn the respect of the players? He has it already. As evident in all guys except Haynesworth showing up. How does this "man up" Albert when you know his sole motivation is money? What if Albert conjures up a reason not to practice? THEN WHAT?

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Anyone defending Buttersworth better go re-watch the clips of that load sitting on the turf during games sucking wind and even getting carted off only to return 5 mins. after he caught his breath. Shanny saw the tapes and has the balls to make him run... unlike last year's coaches. If you want him to dominate, make it so he is in shape enough to not have to come out every other series!! That load should live on a treadmill!!

Posted by: mrlowery1 | July 30, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I trust that Shanny/Haslett know what they're doing w/ AH.

Posted by: chris_zz | July 30, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Like you would know.

Raise your hand if you participated in such a drill... c'mon get 'em up... no one? Okay raise your hand if you participated in Shanahan's training camp... Aw, c'maaaaaaon, nobody? Aight last one: Raise your hand if you attended a NFL training camp, peroid.... Aw, CA'mon...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

So what Mike Shanahan camp did you participate in?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | July 30, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

F Haynesworth, if he never wears the burgundy and gold again....fine.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 30, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Shanahans post practice conference was scripted in terms of haynesworth, he's clearly making an example out of him, everywhere you read you see that he failed, it's like look, i told you you should have been here all summer, but hey that's fine, bring them together

HAIL

Posted by: retroskins14 | July 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"Again, if this isn't over by saturday morning, then its overkill. His next challenge for the next few weeks will be to learn the system and climb the depth chart by making plays. Pretty simple, I think."

Posted by: razor25 | July 30, 2010 11:18 A

Love your arbitrary choice of Saturday as the day it becomes overkill. The whole thing is overkill. To wit: Nobody gets in shape in two days! If he's out of shape on Thursday, he's most certainly still out of shape on Saturday! Just Shanny-games folks.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for a 300-yard run. That is nothing. That's a 7-minute mile pace for less than a 1/4 mile of a run.

There's nfw "few players are capable" of passing this fitness test. You have got to be kidding me.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse
------------------------------------

First off, it's a shuttle, not 300 yards in a straight line. Second, we don't know the recovery time between tests.

For all we know it could 50 down, 50 back, 100 down, 100 back, or it could be 6 50's, or it could be a 25, 50, 75 pyramid. The latter two break downs above could mean 600 yards + 11 stop/starts in 2 minutes & 20 seconds, which would probably put your 7 minute miler on the puker too.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | July 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"'Oh, it's not that hard, any athlete in shape should be able to complete the drill.'

Like you would know.

Raise your hand if you participated in such a drill... c'mon get 'em up... no one?"

Posted by: RedDMV

*Hand raised*

I've done much, much, much worse. In college, we used to do a broken down 3-mile test as follows (in order of runs):

1600 in 5:15
2 x 800 in 2:40 each
4 x 400 in 70 seconds each


2 x 300 in 71 seconds each is a joke. I don't care if you're a 40 year old long-snapper. Any athlete should be able to complete this test with flying colors.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"I'm tired of this [expletive]," Haynesworth told NBC4 Thursday evening. "I just want to get out on field and play football.

Then pass the test you fat, out of shape, pride less, tub of feces. I could complete this test running backwards, in fact 3 of my college friends and son took the test and only one of us didn't pass. My 5 year old son..

LisaR, gtown85. GTFOH with your nonsense, He wasn't at OTAs and now he has to pass a very straight forward conditioning test to prove he's fit enough to participate and for liability reasons. Each team has his own test and after failing today then you can tell that his extended bathroom break was a weak attempt to catch his breath. He's a professional athlete, not a dump truck driver.

If you are defending AH, please punch yourself in the face.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

"Meanwhile, some players have privately expressed concern that Coach Mike Shanahan is simply trying to make an example of Haynesworth because he skipped all but one day of Shanahan's first offseason program."

And with that, the "I won't be a distraction." goes out the window. LOL. Shanahan (or Shan-a-tan, as someone brilliantly wrote) has to get rid of this guy. They cannot drudge along on pins and needles waiting for The Big Explosion.

Posted by: nojunk4me | July 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV:

Stompy quits then Skins sue for the bonus money back. The old gravy train days of gettin' paid by "Mr. Snyder" and leaving town are over. It's vital long-term that this message be transmitted, it's worth losing AH for nothing!

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 30, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

arguing with hessone = power rankings.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:21 AM

LOL!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I have no sympathy for AH at all. The guy could not finish a game last year--no cardio conditioning--see it all the time at the gym, big bulky guys, lift 350, get winded after 10 minutes on the treadmill or eliptical. Just because he lost 30 pounds does not mean he has the cardio conditioning to go the whole game. He still has a bad attitude, he is still poking along on the field. You want to play football, get your butt down the field and run. Otherwise, just go home and leave us alone you are a distraction we just don't need. For the record, I am 47, lost 15% of my lung capacity to cancer treatment and managed to pass this test yesterday with no problem with my husband on the stopwatch at the high school football field, so what's the problem? Buck up or go home!

Posted by: drmammal1 | July 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse


Original_etrod = Power Failure

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If you are defending AH, please punch yourself in the face.

hahaha....i don't care who you are, thats some funny stuff right there....co-sign as well...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 30, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

WaitingGulity, you're a fitness fiend and there is nothing wrong with that.

When has Albert been associated with anything close to as someone who like to run?


Alex, yeah I had to do this stuff. I was in the Army for four years. I had to do this stuff AND THEN SOME on the regular. Big difference is that these aren't little boys and this ain't the Army. The 'discipline' drum beating will only get your soldiers to march but only so far in the NFL.

Especially if they don't win.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

LOL thinking about all the peeps running out and trying this conditiong test last night!

Posted by: PlayAction | July 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV,

I guarantee you a massive number of NFL players would find a way to pass that physical if they were getting paid the amount of money Fat Albert received.

People like you crack me up. This blog is for FANS, not athletes. Fans are not expected to be able to do the things NFL players are expected to do. Is this too far above your comprehension level? I'll dumb it down for you:

NFL player

Multi-millionaire; expected to be in top physical condition and paid well to be just that so they can play a GAME

People posting on blog:

Most not very rich; job does not require top physical condition, but some sort of skill; Pay money to support the team so they tend to get upset when an out of shape malcontent acts like a 5 year old.

And then there's you, the dope that thinks the fans don't have a right to complain when they are putting their hard-earned money into the team and not getting the results they expect because a player has a bad attitude.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse"

Granted we were a bunch of 180 lb soccer players, but still. This test is not a physical impossibility in any sense whatsoever. For a man that moves the way AH does (even for his size), this is a veerrrry reasonable test.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

1600 in 5:15
2 x 800 in 2:40 each
4 x 400 in 70 seconds each


2 x 300 in 71 seconds each is a joke. I don't care if you're a 40 year old long-snapper. Any athlete should be able to complete this test with flying colors.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


I'm assuming you ran track in college. That workout you described just gave me horrible flashbacks to puking beneath bleachers.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse


If you are defending AH, please punch yourself in the face.


Posted by: Diesel44

You got that gtown85 ?

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

LisaR, gtown85. GTFOH with your nonsense, He wasn't at OTAs and now he has to pass a very straight forward conditioning test to prove he's fit enough to participate and for liability reasons. Each team has his own test and after failing today then you can tell that his extended bathroom break was a weak attempt to catch his breath. He's a professional athlete, not a dump truck driver.

If you are defending AH, please punch yourself in the face.


Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:29 AM

Diesel, if you have even three to four working brain cells in your head, ponder this:

84 guys are on the practice field without having to prove that they were fit AT THE START OF TRAINING CAMP!! Don't trot out what they did in offseason condtioning that ended a month ago! What kind of shape are they in now? You don't know and, more importantly, neither does Shanahan!

My parallel to your "punch yourself in the face" comment is as follows:

If the current AH/Shanahan situation is beyond the scope of your intellect, please refrain from commenting.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Ah, soccer. I stand corrected.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Can we get some reports from camp already? I'd like to know how the Oline is faring against the Dline. How is Kareen Moore looking at FS. Does Portis look to be lighter on his feet?

Posted by: Devo2 | July 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

You fake ass wanna be drill sergeants kill me! Love all the advocates of discipline, but probably are the same ones who don't even discipline your own children or still cry to this day when you can't get your way -- wouldn't know discipline if it smacked your mother and spit in your face.

Probably the only running you've done in the last few years is with your mouth and chasing the ice cream trucks.

'Oh, it's not that hard, any athlete in shape should be able to complete the drill.'

Like you would know.

Raise your hand if you participated in such a drill... c'mon get 'em up... no one? Okay raise your hand if you participated in Shanahan's training camp... Aw, c'maaaaaaon, nobody? Aight last one: Raise your hand if you attended a NFL training camp, peroid.... Aw, CA'mon...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:15 AM

Red, I know you don't mean to be but comments like these sound like you're backing AH. Just sayin'...

Glad you brought up the disciplining children thing...seems to me like AH jumped outta line, Shanahan spanked his ass, and there's a bunch of bloggas on here lining up to chastise Shanahan for instilling a little discipline in an out of control child. It's between the parent and the child...nothing to see here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

RedDMV, I played college soccer and we had to run 1/4 of a mile around a track in less than 90 seconds, which translates to about a 6 minute mile. Not easy by any means, but if you're in good shape not terrible. What they're asking AH to do is run at a 7-minute mile pace for .17 miles. Now he's a much bigger guy than I am, but I think it can be done. Remember, the guy hasn't been in shape his entire career. Whispers of him taking plays off and getting winded easily were already being heard from his time in Tennessee...so I wouldn't be shocked at all if maybe he isn't in tip top condition right now...

Posted by: mattylight | July 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

"I am tired of this XXXX". Doesn't that say it all? Do you really think his attitude has changed? If Fat Albert followed the rules (or followed any kind of protocol whatsoever), he wouldn't be in this situation. He is upset about 2 days of practice? Seriously? Then get in shape and pass the test. Is he a man? Will he do what he needs to do? I am glad Shanny is busting him up. This is what he needs. Glad to see someone has the will to make it happen. This is exactly the kind of response everyone was busting on the previous coaches for not having! When you go old school, you go old school. Shanny is old school!

Posted by: KDSmallJr | July 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I read that to mean that you have to run up/back/up--3 full fields in 71 sec. Thats 20 sec each way, with a break between sets. As a prof. athelete, he should be able to handle this, although, for a lineman, he would have to be running at almost full speed. Their 100 yd dash times would be it the 15-18 sec range. i believe thats a bit too fast for 300+lbs guys.A fast /small guy would only need to push half as hard to do that. And yes, Red, in baseball, we used to get timed running from foul pole to foul pole, after practice, 3 times a week-10 to 15 of them.This is there job. Is the test hard? yes.As a prof? not so much. THat is a fast time for a big man though.

Posted by: razor25 | July 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

skinsfan360 - just cause someone loses weight does not mean he is in shape. or even in football shape which is more important.

For all those who think it is easy, it is not if he has to reach down and touch those lines , change direction and do it again. For a big man this is hard. I have done lots of drills like these through out the years, and a flat run of 300 yards is easy, but bending, stopping, shifting the weight and changing direction is tiring. Which is exactly why they put them through it.

But as one pointed out, it is a standard drill. Shanny wants to see him do a standard drill before putting him out there. If haney is not ready and injures himself, then he gets paid for doing nothing.

Truly, this is protecting his investment. Keeping him healthy for the season or trade.

Shanahan is not trying to prove anything because there is nothing to prove. Anyone who says he is doesnt know him (neither do i)or what his motivations are. Jake Plummer is the only player for shanny who said he is childish in this way.

No other player ever has.

So all things being equal, the most logical answer is the correct one. He is ensuring he is ready to participate in training camp.

We are all just letting the media hype whip us into a frenzy.

Posted by: Zeebs1 | July 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

+++When has Albert been associated with anything close to as someone who like to run?++++

When he decided to play and get paid by the NFL.

How does it go in the Army if you can't pass a physical? Do they say, "Ok, well, go ahead and join up with the rest of your troop and we'll not worry about your physical condition"?

And most soldiers do it, not for a huge paycheck, but for the love of their country and pride in themselves. And what a soldier goes through in boot camp is nowhere near what is expcted from this primadonna. $21 million is more than enough compensation to be expected to pass this physical.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Can we get some reports from camp already? I'd like to know how the Oline is faring against the Dline. How is Kareen Moore looking at FS. Does Portis look to be lighter on his feet?

Posted by: Devo2 | July 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I agree with you, unless you have Twitter you aren't going to hear a damn thing about Training Camp. What a joke, this is reporting? CAN WE GET SOME UPDATES ABOUT TRAINING CAMP!!!???!!!??? CHRIST

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | July 30, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

So now running 600 yards is excessive. My goodness. The leadership has been so poor for so long no one knows how soft this actually is. Only hope they dont make him run a full mile.

Posted by: Stu27 | July 30, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse


@gtown85

wash, rinse, repeat.

How about that. The one with all the brain cells knows it all.

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

ppstr8, I'm not sure if you've been lurking or you're trying your hand at the 'funny guy post of the day' award, but when have I ever said that what Shanahan has Albert is doing is easy? I haven't so, can you expalin where you're pulling this half-ass wit sh*t from?


Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I was watching the January 1984 NFC Championship game at RFK versus the 49ers last night on You Tube. First time I've seen it as I was overseas then, but I've been wanting to watch that game for years. Man, those were different times. Much, much more physical game.

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

oops, I meant 20+ seconds.

Posted by: razor25 | July 30, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

What exactly is he tired of? He hasn't been around.

Posted by: jimc93 | July 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"That workout you described just gave me horrible flashbacks to puking beneath bleachers.

Posted by: Original_etrod"

Oh yes, we had plenty of this as well to go with the test.

Ah, memories.

Maybe that should be Shanahan's test. No time limits, just run Haynesworth 'til he pukes.

Now that would be a lesson for Haynesworth.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Of course he's "tired of this [expletive]" and wants to get out on the field.

Then he can fake his injury and call it another season over and done.

The wonders of guaranteed money...

Posted by: Vic1 | July 30, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

+++++84 guys are on the practice field without having to prove that they were fit AT THE START OF TRAINING CAMP!! Don't trot out what they did in offseason condtioning that ended a month ago! What kind of shape are they in now? You don't know and, more importantly, neither does Shanahan! +++++

Difference is, Shanahan knew what physical condition they were in a month ago. What was the last known physical condition for Fat Albert? I believe it was last December when he was rolling around like a beached whale because he was winded.....er, injured his butt.

Those 84 players did what was expected of them, this tool did not. That was his decision, now he has to live with the consequences.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I smell manipulation. This is Shanny both demonstrating his authority and generating locker room & public support for Fat Albert.
Shanny's lucky no one's ever gone Latrell Sprewell on him.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | July 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

You guys are all idiots, this guy is caring over 300 pounds and a shuttle calls for making turns so its stop and go. Your legs start to burn after one shuttle. Give him a break, he is our best defensive player and gives us the only chance we have to stop Jacobs from the Giants. Half of you guys criticizing this guy are prob over 40, bald and fat and probably struggle to catch your breath when you get off the coach to get another twinkie.

Posted by: pjohn1 | July 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

brown, Ravens are desperate...but are they hands of stone/6 int's in 5 years desperate....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 30, 2010 11:19 AM


Have you seen their secondary? Both starting CBs from last year coming off ACL injuries, Ed Reed at best will miss the first 6 weeks (and probably be a shadow of himself if/when he does play), and as of now their best DB is the elder Landry. Regardless of what we think of him, CR is at worst a starting caliber CB without playmaking ability. Much better than pulling a guy out of a beer truck and handing him a playbook, no?

I'm not saying it'll happen, but if I were Bruce Allen, I'm putting my arm around Ozzie and saying, "Hey man, heard you're having problems keeping guys upright in the secondary. I think I may be able to help..."

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Didn’t I read yesterday that Albert isn’t supposed to be talking to the media? If this is the case, and he “disobeyed”, it could be more and more possible that this could continue past Saturday.

And why isn’t he allowed to try again later today? One chance per day seems a little dumb. The goal is to get this guy practicing as soon as possible.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | July 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

ppstr8, I'm not sure if you've been lurking or you're trying your hand at the 'funny guy post of the day' award, but when have I ever said that what Shanahan has Albert is doing is easy? I haven't so, can you expalin where you're pulling this half-ass wit sh*t from?


Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Nah not going for an award. It's some sht for you to try to disqualify opinions just cause they don't match your own.

You really don't know much better than the people you were addressing with that post. That is all.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | July 30, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What they're asking AH to do is run at a 7-minute mile pace for .17 miles.

Posted by: mattylight | July 30, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if that's completely accurate. It may work out to that pace, but sprinting and changing directions for a 330lb guy is gonna be a lot more grueling than a 300yd run in a straight line.

But this is not an uncommon drill. From what Google tells me, linemen should be able to do this in under 65 seconds.

It's not unreasonable to ask him to do this until he passes.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

gtown85-

The 84 guys attended OTAs there by working on their fitness to a satisfactory enough level that they don't have pass a conditioning test in order to be cleared to participate. Standard practice across all other 31 teams.

I'm assuming you didn't parlay your 85' degree from Gtown into a law degree. Google Kory Stringer..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

gtown85-
by participating in the offseason conditioning program, even though it ended a month ago, unless all the players went home sat on the couch and ate cheeseburgers and doritos for 35 days and did nothing else, it is HIGHLY unlikely that they have lost too much in the way of conditioning. In fact, given the regimen they went through and the other activities that went on at Redskin Park afterward and the fact the McNabb had all the offenseive skilled position guyss out with him for the last 2 weeks working out in AZ none of them lost anything. AH on the otherhand has been doing his own thing and no one in the organization had any clue what kind of condition he was in given no one had seen him since February, I believe. I don't blame the coaches one bit for making him prove he's in shape. He's obviously has no cardio endurance--same problem he had last year. In my book, that's out of shape. His job is to play 20 games a year, maybe up to 24 if they go to the Super Bowl as a Wild Card. He is supposed to be able to Play 60 minutes per game per week. He was unable to do that last year because he would get winded--no cardio conditioning, and it looks like that has not changed. He may be lighter, but he's really in no better shape than he was at the end of last season.

Posted by: drmammal1 | July 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Half of you guys criticizing this guy are prob over 40, bald and fat and probably struggle to catch your breath when you get off the coach to get another twinkie.

Posted by: pjohn1 | July 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I am not bald, thank you very much!

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 30, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

So 23 seconds to run 100 yards, no pads.

Now I believe this would equal out to a 9.46 40? Correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by: alex35332

I think they said it was a shuttle run. So you run a few yards, touch the ground, run back to where you started from, touch the ground, run out further then before and touch the ground, come back and touch the ground... 300 yards of that can be difficult depending on how many different times you have to touch and go back.

Posted by: skinsfan360 | July 30, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"gives us the only chance we have to stop Jacobs from the Giants."

huh? you obviously watched very little giants football last season as Jacobs was very easy to tackle and has basically lost his starting job.

last time i checked skins defense was better the year before AH arrived with the same amount of turnovers.....

Posted by: chrislarry | July 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Rob you fu_king a**hole! When the fu_k did I ever say that people didn't have a right to complain?

Don't know if you able to see the hypocrisy in your words, so I'll help your dumbass out:

If you're complaining about my complaining, how is that any different than what I'm doing.

And in case you haven't been reading, fu_kboy, all I've been reading are the comparisons people are making with their own workouts and how theirs is just as hard, if not harder than Hanyesworth's. So you see dickbreath, it's actually not me making the claim that fans should do what NFL athletes do. I posted that in response to CLAIMS of your beloved fans, you fu_king idiot!

So cut, the holier than thou crap, you piece of sh*t. You're not up here crusading for the other bloggers on the board. You're a b*tch ass wanna be who thinks they're making some sort of weak ass point, when actually you're making yourself look like a retarded fu_k. Simply shut the fu_k up you know a damn thing about!

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Comparing bloggers to professional athletes...

=power rankings

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see the rest of the players on the team come out and support Haynesworth the next time he runs the test. It could turn into a nice little team-bonding exercise. You'd be surprised how much easier pushing yourself can be when you've got 50 teammates watching, cheering, and yelling at you to keep it up.

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"Half of you guys criticizing this guy are prob over 40, bald and fat and probably struggle to catch your breath when you get off the coach to get another twinkie.

Posted by: pjohn1"

i love this line of thinking, so only other football players and athletes should be passionate, informed, interested in, have opinions about the NFL? wanna check with the NFL on that considering its schlubby non athletes who fund a multi billion dollar industry.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 30, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

even after passing the "conditioning test" - and I assume he will at some point - he'll most likely spend some time w/ the reserves before moving to first team...

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | July 30, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I keep my twinkies next to the coach so I don't have to get off her.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Might as well jump in and give my view on the AH conditioning test thing since the world and his dog already has.

Is what AH is being asked to run a standard test for professional football players?
Yes
Is it hard but for a professional football player, even a lineman do-able?
Yes
Have other players been asked to do it at some point in OTA's/training etc? Maybe maybe not, depends who you believe.
But even if they weren't, how many other players on the team from last year spent segments of games rolling around on the field and had to be carted off to take oxygen because they were so out of shape?
None.
Does weight loss equal conditioned?
No.
Is Shanahan also testing AH's commitment to this team and working out?
Probably.
Is Shanahan stubborn as a mule and being spiteful?
Probably
Does this team really need showing what it means to be a TEAM, have DISCIPLINE and COMMITMENT rather than just be told, for the first time since Martyball?
YES YES YES YES.

If any of them cannot do it now, they are not going to be able to do it in December. In fact, probably not even in November.

Posted by: craig81 | July 30, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"Sources said each 300-yard run must be completed in 71 seconds"

Not both have to be done in 71 seconds. That is 11.83 seconds per 25 yards. That is a joke. Anyone who trained all off season liked they claimed could do this.

Posted by: spaceghost1 | July 30, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse


Only a $nyder team can constantly produce this kind of division between fans. Folks, we are Redskin fans, let's be civil here and agree to disagree. Now it's time to talk football, and leave the AH debacle for discusion some other time.

Posted by: hessone | July 30, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

huh? you obviously watched very little giants football last season as Jacobs was very easy to tackle and has basically lost his starting job.

Posted by: chrislarry | July 30, 2010 11:54 AM
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it happened in the first game when London stuck the sh!t out of him...he tip toed all season after that hit

Posted by: jcnjcnj | July 30, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

you must earn the right to be a part of any quality team. Obviously that means more than getting a check. Good job shanny.

Posted by: audboy | July 30, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Comparing bloggers to professional athletes

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:55 AM

fixed it for you.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | July 30, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

For a 300 lb plus guy, that is too much too ask, especially in a shuttle format, with all of the stop and goes and after a few minute break, repeat it? That is about 4 yards per second, in spurts. Not many people of half his size can do it and in most cases, it is placed by coaches on particular individuals for penance rather than a realistic objective (not that he didn't deserve it!) In any case, hopefully, this distraction ends soon and they move on to their primary objective, getting prepared to win games.

Posted by: schultzy | July 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

ONLY DUMB a$& DEANGELO HALL WOULD DEFEND THIS FAT F$#%

Posted by: BarackObama | July 30, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse
you think he was one of the "other defensive linemen" who said that they completed the test, during workouts when they were untimed. easy on the hate Obeezy

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

beeps, new thread...

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | July 30, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

C'mon on, people. He has 23 sec. to run from one goal line to the other, touch it with his foot, 23 sec to run back, etc. aThen, after 3x100, he gets a break while he walks back to where he started, as he is at the opposite end. Then does it again.Do you really think that should be that hard for any professional athlete? Yes, he might have to run closer to full speed because he's slow, but quit making this sound unreasonable to ask of him, especially since he missed ALL off season work and said his presonal trainer would do a better job than the team trainers would.

Posted by: razor25 | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Comparing bloggers to professional athletes...

=power rankings


Yeah right, especially when they initiate the comparisons.


You mothefu_kers crack up up something serious. So indulged in your hate over Haynesworth you develop selective reading and become spin and undertone artist.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

oops, weird HTML interpretation of the "less than" symbol truncated the "fixed" part...

oh well, move along, nothing to see here.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The 84 guys attended OTAs there by working on their fitness to a satisfactory enough level that they don't have pass a conditioning test in order to be cleared to participate. Standard practice across all other 31 teams.

I'm assuming you didn't parlay your 85' degree from Gtown into a law degree. Google Kory Stringer..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 30, 2010 11:50 AM

Google the 84 guys currently practicing without taking this "conditioning test". No one knows what shape they're in. Shanny said it's not good to place a player on the field without knowing that he's in shape? Are the 84 in mortal danger? *wink*

The fact that AH's teammates said they were not timed when they did 300-yd drill makes clear to me that this has nothing to do with conditioning.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

For a 300 lb plus guy, that is too much too ask, especially in a shuttle format, with all of the stop and goes and after a few minute break, repeat it? That is about 4 yards plus per second, in spurts. Not many people of half his size can do it and in most cases, it is placed by coaches on particular individuals for penance rather than a realistic objective (not that he doesn't deserve it!) In any case, hopefully, this distraction ends soon and they move on to their primary objective, getting prepared to win games.

Posted by: schultzy | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I think they said it was a shuttle run. So you run a few yards, touch the ground, run back to where you started from, touch the ground, run out further then before and touch the ground, come back and touch the ground... 300 yards of that can be difficult depending on how many different times you have to touch and go back.

Posted by: skinsfan360 | July 30, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse
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So far as I can tell, we are not privy to the exact make-up of the run.

But I definitely think we should respect the opinion of the former distance runners who could run lazy left circles on asphalt around a guy 3 times their weight and 8 years older doing stop/starts on grass. That's straight warrior, homey.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

skinsfan360 - just cause someone loses weight does not mean he is in shape. or even in football shape which is more important.

Posted by: Zeebs1

Zeebs I agree with all of your other points but I dont think I said that he was in shape just because he lost the weight. However I think that just because a lineman fails this test doesnt mean that they are out of shape or even out of football shape.

Posted by: skinsfan360 | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

For you guys on here that think that the 300 yard shuttle is easy i would like to see u try it i played foot ball and that is a drill that we all dreaded as player because u r running 25 yard increments of 12 touches so its not a straight line sprint he is running back n forth and the lactic acid build up is unreal i think he should have been at camp but by no means is that drill easy!

Posted by: arobi405 | July 30, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: Pepper5 | July 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE DOES'NT PASS THE NEXT TEST?

Posted by: robertg238 | July 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE DOES'NT PASS THE NEXT TEST?

Posted by: robertg238 | July 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE DOES'NT PASS THE NEXT TEST?

Posted by: robertg238 | July 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Whatever your feelings...you gotta admit it's become a fascinating story...

It seems to me that the real question all off-season was whether Albert Butterworth REALLY wanted to play football at all. Everybody knew he wanted outta here but the way he went about it made it impossible for there to be any takers at a price that made sense for the 'Skins because of questions about his character & commitment. The Lions for one came out & said publicly that they weren't interested in trading for him because they didn't want him to be a bad influence on their kid.

So, I kinda see the goings-on this way...

Shanny & Allen are disciplining Butterworth AND shopping him at the same time. If he takes it like a man AND says he's ready to be a part of THIS team...great! Let's get ready to play football. If he throws himself into it, he can be one of the best & make the 'Skins defense a much better unit than they would be without him...but that's a big IF!

IF he doesn't buy into what Shanny is selling here, then the whole "exercise" demonstrates to other teams that Butterworth is - at least - in shape & still wants to play somewhere. He's thrown up the "come & get me" signal to the rest of the league in the right way. Do that & the offers for him will go up...especially if teams that run the 4-3 have key injuries or decide they aren't satisfied with their personnel.

I, for one, don't expect this to be over Saturday. Shanny has already said that WHEN Butterworth is cleared for practice, he won't run with the 1st team D. It wouldn't surprise me a BIT to see the process continue a few more weeks. He missed ALL the OTAs. Guys have said he'll have no idea what's going on.

So, I'd expect the next phase of Butterworth's socialization/shopping experience to be along the lines of this. Line up wrong? Run a mile... Jump offside? Run a mile.... Don't know your assignment in this set? Run a mile...

I see it as "win/win" for the 'Skins. If he does it & buys-in, the 'Skins get a better player. If it does it but still wants out, they get more in return. If he quits & goes home OR acts up & gets suspended, they get more of their money back.

Nice to see they're not playing checkers in Asburn anymore. A couple of chess players are calling the shots now.

Posted by: clb_in_md | July 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

So far as I can tell, we are not privy to the exact make-up of the run.

But I definitely think we should respect the opinion of the former distance runners who could run lazy left circles on asphalt around a guy 3 times their weight and 8 years older doing stop/starts on grass. That's straight warrior, homey.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | July 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey I run long distance too and used to do shuttle runs when I played team sports. I bet I could finish this test fairly easily. But then again I'm not near 300 lbs and I dont think any of the other runners who've been talking here are. That's why I'd like to see how the other linemen on the team do with this test.

Posted by: skinsfan360 | July 30, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

@drmammal1,

If this conditioning test was standard in the NFL, then everyone would have to show that they can pass it at some point, no? The players who completed the offseason conditioning program (a month ago) said that they were not timed when doing the drill. Oddly, AH is. Disconnect.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"71 seconds for 2 300yd shuttles? Holy crap. That would be tough to do for Santana Moss running in a straight line."

I remember in high school track we would do 20 300m repeats in 45-50 sec with 90 sec rest. I think a professional athlete can handle 2 in 71 secs.

Posted by: Redskinsdan | July 30, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 10:51 AM

This is so intellectually dishonest. And I know you know that.

Not many 300lb professional athletes can run 12 50 yd sprints in 71 seconds.

It's clear Albert's in shape. How is this helping him catch up on learning the scheme? But so be it. This too shall pass.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 30, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

++++++++Hey, Rob you fu_king a**hole! When the fu_k did I ever say that people didn't have a right to complain?

Don't know if you able to see the hypocrisy in your words, so I'll help your dumbass out:

If you're complaining about my complaining, how is that any different than what I'm doing.

And in case you haven't been reading, fu_kboy, all I've been reading are the comparisons people are making with their own workouts and how theirs is just as hard, if not harder than Hanyesworth's. So you see dickbreath, it's actually not me making the claim that fans should do what NFL athletes do. I posted that in response to CLAIMS of your beloved fans, you fu_king idiot!

So cut, the holier than thou crap, you piece of sh*t. You're not up here crusading for the other bloggers on the board. You're a b*tch ass wanna be who thinks they're making some sort of weak ass point, when actually you're making yourself look like a retarded fu_k. Simply shut the fu_k up you know a damn thing about!

Posted by: RedDMV | July 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse ++++++++++


LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh, sounds like you have some rage issues.

Again, I'll dumb it down even more for you, if it's even possible. I'm approachign kindergarten level, still above your head.....

Message board posters: complaining about Haynesworth

Idiot: complaining about the people who are complaining about Haynesworth.

Here's part of your post:

++++You fake ass wanna be drill sergeants kill me! Love all the advocates of discipline, but probably are the same ones who don't even discipline your own children or still cry to this day when you can't get your way -- wouldn't know discipline if it smacked your mother and spit in your face.

Probably the only running you've done in the last few years is with your mouth and chasing the ice cream trucks.++++

How is this not saying that people have a right to complain??? Are you that dense? Well, from your last post, you obviously are. Good luck in the future, but please don't have children. Enough idiots in the world already.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

For you guys on here that think that the 300 yard shuttle is easy i would like to see u try it i played foot ball and that is a drill that we all dreaded as player because u r running 25 yard increments of 12 touches so its not a straight line sprint he is running back n forth and the lactic acid build up is unreal i think he should have been at camp but by no means is that drill easy!

Posted by: arobi405 | July 30, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse


Give me $21 million and give me three months to pass it.....trust me, I'll get it done.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I love the people saying they could run a drill. Yeah, and they probably weight 150 pounds, too. Why don't you add on another 100-150 lbs and then try it? Football players need to be quick for very short distances and very strong. Being in shape to run long distances doesn't help on the football field. Even other Redskins players are saying that it few could do this, but, the wisdom on the internet says otherwise.

Posted by: bperk420 | July 30, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Give me $21 million and give me three months to pass it.....trust me, I'll get it done.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 12:24 P

Similarly, AH should be ready by late October. Fair enough.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

He received the $21 million in April, it's now August. He should already be ready.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

He received the $21 million in April, it's now August. He should already be ready.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 12:34 PM

The clock starts when he reports to training camp or when the others pass the same conditioning test. Fair?

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I could do this...and not even spill my beer. What a marshmallow.

Posted by: SMACK1 | July 30, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

HE tired?? He just want to play?? Since when? Oh now you want to play - you fat, spoiled, over payed, overrated bastard. Get him Shanny, Get him.

You weren't tired when you cashed that check. I'm so glad he met his match. I'm sick of him.

Posted by: love2much SE | July 30, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

BIG Buttersworth!!! OH BIG Buttersworth!!

Shanny is not playing with you..No more McDonald's MOE!!..NO Triple Stacks from Wendy's!!..NO MORE COLDSTONE!! HE runnin you BIG FLUFFY A$$ in the ground!!! RUN FLUFFY RUN!!!!!! RUN FLUFFY RUN!!!!

Posted by: Airchuck | July 30, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"Not many 300lb professional athletes can run 12 50 yd sprints in 71 seconds.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 30, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse"

It's not dishonest at all.

That is not difficult at all, even for a 300 lb lineman.

web.wm.edu/speedstrength/.../300%20shuttle.pdf

Posted by: psps23 | July 30, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"I'm tired of this [expletive]," Haynesworth told NBC4 Thursday evening. "I just want to get out on field and play football.

Really you fat idiot? WHO CARES. If you were where you were supposed to be rather than trying to screw with Shanahan you would be on the field.

You have nobody to blame but your fat self.

Posted by: mjwies11 | July 30, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

RUN BIG FLUFFY!!! RRRRRRRUUUUUUUUNNN!!!!!!

I know what BIG Fluffy is thinking...That LITTLE MF!!! Shanahan!! Aaaight he got me!! he got me!!

Damn it's hot out here, my legs hurt, I need some water. Where the hell is the pizza man? Anybody got a snickers on them? cause i'm gon be a while..

Posted by: Airchuck | July 30, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I can read his mind now....

That Little MF Shananhan!!! Aaight.. he got me! He got me!

Damn its hot, my legs hurt. I need some water. Where the hell is the Pizza man? Anyone got a snickers on them? Cause I'm gon be a while.

Posted by: Airchuck | July 30, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The clock starts when he reports to training camp or when the others pass the same conditioning test. Fair?

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse


I'll meet ya halfway, the clock started at the MANDATORY camps that he skipped without an excuse back in June.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | July 30, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

My guess is he passes tomorrow. Shanahan has created some sympathy among his teammates so they will be more accepting of him and established himself as the bad cop. Let's put this behind us and get ready for dallas. HTTR

Posted by: wireman65 | July 30, 2010 10:53 AM


We have a winner.

Posted by: anacostia85 | July 30, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Can no body speek on AH behaf. He be doing his best to complete the requier task. If no body knows what the drils needs.
if i was AH i be getting the heck out of here dont noby appreciet his effort for the team. I be hoping he dont pass test as it is not fair the mistreatmant he be going thru and humeliation fell bad for AH.
Stop hating

Posted by: Incognito00 | July 30, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, if you have even three to four working brain cells in your head, ponder this:

84 guys are on the practice field without having to prove that they were fit AT THE START OF TRAINING CAMP!! Don't trot out what they did in offseason condtioning that ended a month ago! What kind of shape are they in now? You don't know and, more importantly, neither does Shanahan!

My parallel to your "punch yourself in the face" comment is as follows:

If the current AH/Shanahan situation is beyond the scope of your intellect, please refrain from commenting.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

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He was obviously unfit last season as he sat out crucial plays and laid on the turf repeatedly in order to catch his breath while feigning injury.

Were the other "84 guys" doing that last year?

AH has given the coaches no reason to believe he is ready to play football. He didn't show for the voluntaries, which he doesn't have to, or the mandatory. He wasn't here in the offseason. He was in terrible shape last year.

Based on the evidence coming in, MS is right on to give him a conditioning test and have something that has lacked in the organization for a while: EXPECTATIONS.

He'll ultimately pass, and play...I'll just never understand people whining about "upsetting the players", while just this offseason they were pining for more accountabiltiy. So, which one is it?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | July 30, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If they put a giant platter of Big Macs at the end of the obstacle course, he'll do fine.

Posted by: nativedc | July 30, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

@shaunsherman12

84 players (many of whom were NOT with the team last year) got a pass at the start of training camp and people are talking about "boot camp", "new sheriff in town", "all is good in the world" etc.

I don't have a problem with AH showing he's in shape as long as the other guys have to do it too. If Shanny isn't careful, the players may unite alright - against him! (And not in the "feel good" way you might want to twist it into). Many a coach has ultimately been fired because he lost his team. Let's hope it doesn't happen to Shanahan.

Posted by: gtown85 | July 30, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This is a joke. I would question whether any Redskins lineman could complete 300 yards in 71 seconds; and then do it again! I said last year AH was a poor hire because he added no points to a team that was in desperate need of points. Shanahan is an even worst hire...never hire a coach that's been ligitimately fired by another team. This circus will continue all year. I fail to see how they win 6 games this year. I'm already depressed as a Redskins fan! :(

Posted by: cbernett | July 30, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

This is utterly pathetic. When I was 21, I had to run a 300 yard shuttle in SOFT SAND to get a job lifeguarding on the redneck riviera. At that time I was a water-only athlete and was probably 30 pounds overweight. Mind you this was for a $10/hour job. I am 36 now and could do that today with barely a warm-up. And this guy is making $41 million GUARANTEED!

/so glad to be a ravens fan...

Posted by: righteousdewd | July 30, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

71 seconds for 2 300yd shuttles? Holy crap. That would be tough to do for Santana Moss running in a straight line.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

There's plenty videos of people on YouTube doing this with 10 to 15 seconds to spare. One person did it twice with two minutes rest and finished in under a minute on both attempts. This shouldn't be hard for a decently conditioned athlete to pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0RyKbEaJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afE5RGUNtWA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRncMfIkcSU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWl259MlYYo&feature=related

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | July 31, 2010 5:10 AM | Report abuse

71 seconds for 2 300yd shuttles? Holy crap. That would be tough to do for Santana Moss running in a straight line.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

There's plenty videos of people on YouTube doing this with 10 to 15 seconds to spare. One person did it twice with two minutes rest and finished in under a minute on both attempts. This shouldn't be hard for a decently conditioned athlete to pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0RyKbEaJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afE5RGUNtWA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRncMfIkcSU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWl259MlYYo&feature=related

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | July 31, 2010 5:11 AM | Report abuse

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