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Report: Redskins look to get back some of Haynesworth's $21 million bonus

The Redskins will attempt to get back some of the $21 million bonus that they paid Albert Haynesworth on April 1, according to an ESPN report.

Haynesworth consulted with the NFL Players Association before deciding to skip the team's mandatory minicamp this week to ensure that his bonus was safe. The current CBA would seem to prevent the Redskins from going after any of the bonus that was already paid to Haynesworth. The Redskins cut a check on April 1 for $21 million, which is believed to be the largest single check issued to a player in league history. But according to the ESPN report, the specific language in Haynesworth's contract and his decision to skip out on the team's offseason activities might give the team an opening to get back some of the money.

According to the story, a "knowledgeable NFL source that reviewed Haynesworth's contract and the collective bargaining agreement Wednesday morning said this issue is 'open to interpretation' now that the defensive tackle has declined to report to a mandatory minicamp and the Redskins are expected to pursue whatever money they can. The source added, 'this is the type of case where a longshot may be given an extra hard look because it is so egregious.'"

By Rick Maese  |  June 16, 2010; 1:52 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

which thread are we supposed to follow?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

feeling a little dizzy here.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Suspect the Skins have no shot at getting $$ back. But still, no risk in playing hardball.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it common sense, that to collect compensation, that you actually have to report for work? isn't compensation subject to "working"?
This slug has offically made TO and Randy Moss look better. I never thought that possible.

Posted by: tbarz1 | June 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope they FLEECE him for everything...leave him broke....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

mol... Rick and the gang had a triplicate post going at one point there.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Any bets that AH gets on a plane and immediately shows up at the Park today?

Or tomorrow?

He's going to do something to make sure he keeps that $21 million.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I can understand KEEPING a BONUS if the team CUTS you, but i don't understand how you can get compensation even if you don't show up for work?!?!?

Where can i sign up for this?

If the NFLPA allows this, there won't be a CBA in the near future.

Posted by: tbarz1 | June 16, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Did Haynesworth just rob us?? Of course he would take the check because he knew that we couldnt get the money back if he took it.

Posted by: kickass10101 | June 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Get that Fat Bstd

Posted by: ridgely1 | June 16, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

i don't want the freakin' money back (unless snyder actually gives it to ME). i want haynesworth to wreak havoc for the skins 16+ days a year, or waste 3-4 prime years of his career rotting on the bench, or be traded for 2 1st round draft choices or a young perennial pro-bowler - NOT something like a 4th round pick....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope they FLEECE him for everything...leave him broke....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Pretty sure that's how this story ends even if the Skins aren't able to get much money back.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | June 16, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"...a "knowledgeable NFL source that reviewed Haynesworth's contract and the collective bargaining agreement Wednesday morning said this issue is 'open to interpretation'..."

So who determines and interprets the contract language?

a.) Judge Judy would make AH give some of it back while wondering about the future child support payments he'll have to make.

b.) Judge Greg Mathias would decide that the skins should've cut AH prior to April 1st and wonder why they don't donate the money to charity.

c.) Judge Joe Brown would lecture both Dan Snyder and Albert Haynesworth about 'dedication and manhood' before deciding he forgot what it was he was supposed to decide about.

d.) Judge Moe would make AH repay Snyder all of his money and press the 'delete' button on his time as a redskin.

Then, he'd remind AH he's still under contract with the skins and thus subject to trade.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 16, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

He's setting a bad precedent that even the NFLPA has to be upset with! why? because NO ONE WILL ever give a huge bonus anymore!

Posted by: tbarz1 | June 16, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | June 16, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

or be traded for 2 1st round draft choices or a young perennial pro-bowler - NOT something like a 4th round pick....

Yeah, and I want to sleep with Catherine Zeta-Jones during the week.

And Shania Twain on weekends.

Is somebody taking all of this down?

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

duly noted steve....is there a mrs. steve that might object?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The players made sure that guaranteed $$ are locked away, and that owners won't be able to get those back.

The backstory is interesting. Owners wanted to be able to get out of contracts for players at anytime -- and the owners won that battle (see Barry Zito in baseball for what the NFL owners wanted to avoid).

Basically, owners didn't want to pay big $$ to players who'd gotten hurt, but were still able to play. Or to players that were underperforming. For every action .... the players reacted by demanding upfront money, the guaranteed $$.

In essence, the players and owners, in attempts to screw each other, created a system of perverse incentives. Which is why the players have made sure its next to impossible for an owner to get back any of the guaranteed $$. fwiw, the Raiders are going after a chunk of Jamarcus's $$ and the Falcons went after vick.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't no body who has a glass home be casting a rock of judgement on AH. He was given the money and if you show him the money he wil take it.
Stop crying dummies, he earned it as much as you people are earning it by posting on here instead of working. Ya'll make me sick in the gut!

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"If you work as an IT and your boss ask you to work as a janitor will you do it, no way man bro!>?

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 1:47 PM"

So Defensive Tackle : Nose Tackle :: Information Technology : Janitor

Got it.

Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Snyder should take this team away from here you ingrates don't appreciate all that he has done for ya'll community. This team doesn't deserve such fickle facker fans like ya'll dummies

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

He's setting a bad precedent that even the NFLPA has to be upset with! why? because NO ONE WILL ever give a huge bonus anymore!

Posted by: tbarz1

Writing a ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES on this -- and I did include this. Albert isn't going to find himself with many friends on this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"he earned it as much as you people are earning it by posting on here instead of working.

Posted by: Incognito00"

Um, no, he didn't earn it.

He received a $21 million bonus based on a 7 year contract. He still has 6 years to go. Hence why Snyder has every right to recoup a portion of the money that has been paid out to Haynesworth.

Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

hey forest, go run somewhere.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

So Defensive Tackle : Nose Tackle :: Information Technology : Janitor

Got it.

Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Dummy he doesnt want to play in a 3-4...if you are hired as a it and ask to clean the toliet you wond do it no matter what dummy.

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

what i'm saying is if we don't get something really good in exchange for him we should just let him rot away...

like i said...i keep coming back to anger.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

cork, scamp, red,
i replied re reggie white/bible etc... on the previous thread. check there if you care to.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | June 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

What Dumb A organization would sign/pay a Defensive Tackle 100 million in the first place! ) Stupid is as Stupid does in this case! The writing was on the wall long before AH became a Skin. I guess this is what happens when you sell your soul to the Devil DS! 100 mill later and you still are 4 & 12 and 0 and 6 in your own division!

Posted by: rlomax67 | June 16, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Don’t want to wish bad things on anyone but I would not mind seeing AH92 verbally bashed and shunned by all NFL players for the precedence he has set. I know others have taken the money and run but I can’t remember a more blatant attempt. This situation smells of fraud.
And, oh by the way, all hail Fletcher.

Posted by: camp_fodder | June 16, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Snyder should take this team away from here you ingrates don't appreciate all that he has done for ya'll community. This team doesn't deserve such fickle facker fans like ya'll dummies

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse


True, but at least we made the effort to come to work and collect the money.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 16, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Dummy he doesnt want to play in a 3-4...if you are hired as a it and ask to clean the toliet you wond do it no matter what dummy.

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

He's still going to be a DT. Basically, he's complaining about moving 3ft to the right and not being able to do whatever he wants.

sticking with your IT guy comparison. This is like switching from working with PCs to Macs

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | June 16, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

wilbon, only slightly less of a pos than AH.....despite how irrelevant he's become....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES --- FAT ALBERT EDITION
As always, brought to you by the fine people of Yahoo!

Part 1:

Lets get some things clear. First, Albert remains on the roster. He is the most talented player and the biggest impact player on the roster.

And, we’re missing a lot of information. And, this story is a long way from over.

To me, much of the story is coming out in the small comments. Shanahan said he hasn’t spoken with Albert in months. That gives a pretty clear picture -- of two people who really can’t stand each other. If I’m president of a business, I speak with my highest paid and most talented employee.

The roots of this, are of course, with Cerrato and Snyder. These two guys got rid of Joe Gibbs ‘character matters’ philosophy. Albert is not the only character problem in the post Gibbs era, but he’s easily the largest. There were plenty of warning signs before his contract ever got inked.

Albert is incredibly immature. I’ll say it as clearly as possible. This is not the way a man behaves.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

You would think that if the Redskins would be willing to sue ticket holders for not being able to pay for their tickets, that they would have the courage to go and get their $$$$$ millions back from a low-life dirt bag who doesn't want to live up to his contract....

Posted by: outrbnksm | June 16, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES --- FAT ALBERT EDITION
Part 2

Albert isn’t winning friends with the players around the league either. He’ll be exhibit A in the collective bargaining talks – a guy who gets paid upfront and then doesn’t show (mind you, this upfront situation is mostly the owners creation, since the current CBA allows teams to cut players at almost any time, players reacted by getting upfront guarantees). One more battle between players and owners – Albert’s actions may very well result in other players getting less $$.

From this point forward, no owner is likely to give Albert any substantial upfront $$ or place any significant trust in him. That may seem unimportant given the large check he recently cashed, but Albert could easily have 6 more years in him and still retire before turning 35 – he turned 29 today. Albert is leaving a lot of money on the table. There is a lot of money Albert lost in bad faith.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES --- FAT ALBERT EDITION
Part 3

Still, there is another party to this. Mike Shanahan. In this situation, he needed to be the mature man, working with the immature kid. I know many will disagree with me, but a big part of Shanahan’s job is to get the most out of his talent. Dealing with prima donnas is part of the J O B. Especially when you’re among the highest paid coaches, ever.

Shanahan has placed a premium on this team winning now. He gave up a high draft pick for an aging QB. He signed old RBs and an old RT. His OL has just 1 guy who’ll finish the season under 30 and his only proven WR is 31.

The 4 best players in 2009, on the Skins roster now, are Albert, Fletcher, McNabb and Orakpo. 2 of those guys are well into their 30’s and Albert is on his way out of town. If Albert leaves, Orakpo may be the guy hurt the most by it.

Simply put, Shanahan had the opportunity to get younger and rebuild this team. He chose not to rebuild. Now, it appears he is losing his most talented piece. And he probably owns a sizable share of the blame.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse


ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES --- FAT ALBERT EDITION
Part 4

The story isn’t known, but I’m going to apportion blame based on what is known. Albert gets somewhere between 50-90% of the blame. But Shanahan doesn’t get off the hook. He owns somewhere between 10-50% of the blame. Motivating malcontents comes with the territory.

George Allen brought in vets, famously said “the future is now”, and delivered. The 2 degrees (BA and MS) seemed to be repeating that history. But, I can’t reconcile the “the future is now” with losing your best player. They are opposites.

This story has more twists and turns to come, but like most, I doubt this has a happy ending.

I always felt Shanahan, the coach, was superb. But Shanahan, the front office guy? No so much. Two years ago, I ripped Cerrato for his lack of a plan. Get Jason Taylor to win now, but keep all 10 draft picks for the future? It made no sense. Well, I’ve seen this movie before. I’m sure the 2 degrees have a plan for this team. But as best as I can tell, its not making much more sense than the last guy.

Albert is getting the headlines and being bashed, appropriately. The story of a fool (Snyder) and his $$, nothing new there. The real story is Mike Shanahan, and chapter 1 is off to a rocky start.

And that is a wrap on this SPECIAL EDITION of ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES. As always, brought to you by the finest folks at Yahoo!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

He owns somewhere between 10-50% of the blame. Motivating malcontents comes with the territory.


seriously?? How is he supposed to motivate AH, when AH wont show up?? Its NEVER, EVER, EVER been said that AH will play exclusively NT, so to think this reflect on MS is preposterous.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Dummy he doesnt want to play in a 3-4...if you are hired as a it and ask to clean the toliet you wond do it no matter what dummy.

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I think it's more like if they asked the janitor to teach English, which I believe happened in your case.

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 16, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon offers Haynesworth a "standing ovation"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/wilbon_offers_haynesworth_a_st.html

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

He seems pretty clueless on the AH situation.

Also, not sure he understands what he is talking about regarding offseason. I don't think he makes the list of people qualified to give their opinion about whether offseason workouts cause more injuries to happen.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | June 16, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

You would think that if the Redskins would be willing to sue ticket holders for not being able to pay for their tickets, that they would have the courage to go and get their $$$$$ millions back from a low-life dirt bag who doesn't want to live up to his contract....

Posted by: outrbnksm | June 16, 2010 2:30 PM
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I think they will and Snyder has a lot of money to put into his legal staff. He might push this one to the limit just on principle. The NFLPA has got to be whispering in Haynesworth's ear to just make it all go away. My thought is he gives back a portion of the money before this whole thing escalates in exchange for the team releasing him. I cannot see the team releasing or trading him because then they will lose their leverage.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 16, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

hey forest, go run somewhere.....
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse
So Defensive Tackle : Nose Tackle :: Information Technology : Janitor
Got it.
Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

You guys realize it’s just beep-beep/League source/TE you are feeding here, right? Everyone ignored his new “friend” persona, so now he’s just trying to rile things up as usual.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 16, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I really don't understand Wilbon's point.

Okay, the OTA's are out-of-hand. Got it. There's a danger of these guys breaking down during the year. Got that too. They need more time to recover. Yes.

But how does that relate with AH's clear insubordination?

And lack of playing shape?

None of Wilbons' points about the OTAs and excessive off-season demands (yes, they need to be reined in) apply to Haynewsworth.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon offers Haynesworth a "standing ovation"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/wilbon_offers_haynesworth_a_st.html

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo

Wilbon is being an idiot. Wilbon doesn't like the way the NFL conducts its offseason business (he has a point) and likes that Albert is rebelling. Except that isn't what Albert is rebelling against. DOH!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

steve wilbons long been a douch....I hope he goes back to not eating healthy...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

But Shanahan doesn’t get off the hook. He owns somewhere between 10-50% of the blame. Motivating malcontents comes with the territory.
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Kinda hard when the previous regime guaranteed the carrot and threw away the stick. Any rational consideration of Shanahans position in the matter inevitably leads back to a, 'Our TWO weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency' kinda situation.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon is spouting off just to draw attention to himself.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"Dummy he doesnt want to play in a 3-4...if you are hired as a it and ask to clean the toliet you wond do it no matter what dummy.

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse"

I see that analogy flew about 100 miles over your head.

Let's try this in another manner that you seem to be comfortable with: if somebody hired you to clean toilets but asked you a year later to start mopping floors, there isn't a shot in hell you're standing on moral higher ground by saying "I'm cleaning toilets or cleaning nothing at all!"

Got it?

Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I said it before, and I'll say it again...
Haynesworth = Douchbag

Posted by: COskins | June 16, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth was signed in February 2009. When the season started seven months later in September 2009, Haynesworth was not in shape. Seven months later and not in shape. During the seaon and not in shape. After the season and not in shape. And now this. Damn. So when he took the 21 mil on April 1, 2010, did the Redskins really expect that this gargantuan selfish person was going to fall in step with the company line? Shame on the Redskins if they thought that way. I would cut all ties with this low-life for the sake of the players and Redskin fans. This is a huge lesson for Snyder who is operating absent Cerrato and who is in capable hands now with Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan.

Posted by: getitritegov | June 16, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert took the money. Why can't the Redskins sue him for the money back. Send the jerk on his way.

Posted by: jmy999 | June 16, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If team was smart, they'd start paying up for a high priced lesbo/man-hating divorce/child support lawyer willing represent Fat Albert's current wife and latest stripper/baby mama -- for some token percentage of any court ordered settlement for a share of this joker's assets, holdings and future earnings.

I may have missed it, but I don't believe that Albert's divorce setlement has gone through yet, and so I gotta figure that his current wife and the mother of his older children would entitled to at least half the estate. Meanwhile, the stipper/baby to be mama was at last report asking for a $10 million flat settlement for his up and coming love child.

If nothing else, the court could take out a lien against future earnings, and ensure that Fat Albert does not get so much as another dime from the team. That way, the Redskins would have no reason whatsoever to pay this jerk another dime, especially when the team could be helping so many other needy single mamas that he has left in his wake.

I would also alert the IRS to some potential fraud or other improprieties concerning the joker's tax forms -- explaining that his W-4 forms seem to have understated the number of deductions he'll be claiming -- as well as well as the amount taxes to be withheld from his wages.

I would also ask the NFL to mandate a urine test or two in short order, if only because his extremely erratic behavior of late -- even but his own standards -- might cause some to suspect Albert could be abusing drugs.

Posted by: Vic1 | June 16, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I heard that the Skins were offered a 3rd round pick in Aprils draft for Albert Haynsworth...and we denied it. So I think that Shanny and co. doesn't want anything less than a 2nd or a young talented player. From my understanding the Vikings, Titans, and Lions have discussed Albert internally. But I think the Skins should just be the bigger man. See if we can get some money back. But I think we should just be the bigger man and trade him. Becuase, the longer we hold him, the more of a distraction it will be to the locker room. This will be the last strand of cancer that the former Front Office left. Its time to move on, and rebuild our "franchise". Not Team. FRANCHISE.

Posted by: roccoskins | June 16, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

He owns somewhere between 10-50% of the blame. Motivating malcontents comes with the territory.


seriously?? How is he supposed to motivate AH, when AH wont show up?? Its NEVER, EVER, EVER been said that AH will play exclusively NT, so to think this reflect on MS is preposterous.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Coaches deal with malcontents all the time. There are 2 sides to a relationship. Its possible that there are zero circumstances which would have motivated Albert -- which is essentially your POV. But I doubt that. I doubt that a lot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Alberts attitude is perfect.....for golf or tennis. But for a team sport it sux! Fine him whatever you legally can, then if/when he does decide to show up you play the best players. If he rides the bench then so be it. We'll see how many teams wnat him then. Or just trade him to one of the three teams that were worse than us last year!!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | June 16, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Its possible that there are zero circumstances which would have motivated Albert -- which is essentially your POV. But I doubt that. I doubt that a lot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, no other team has a Chief Twinkies Inspector, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have created one for Fatbert.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | June 16, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

z, Ah refused to come work out with the team/teammates, refused to show up to the minicamp this weekend....and this is Shanny's fault??

were you serious?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"Dummy he doesnt want to play in a 3-4...if you are hired as a it and ask to clean the toliet you wond do it no matter what dummy.

Posted by: Incognito00 | June 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse"

I see that analogy flew about 100 miles over your head.

Let's try this in another manner that you seem to be comfortable with: if somebody hired you to clean toilets but asked you a year later to start mopping floors, there isn't a shot in hell you're standing on moral higher ground by saying "I'm cleaning toilets or cleaning nothing at all!"

Got it?

Posted by: psps23

Brilliant!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

You guys realize it’s just beep-beep/League source/TE you are feeding here, right? Everyone ignored his new “friend” persona, so now he’s just trying to rile things up as usual.

Posted by: dlhaze1

Point taken. That guy must really hate registration. Now he's going to have to create another screen name.

Posted by: psps23 | June 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has already stated before a month ago after the draft that he's not going to trade Haynesworth, period. The link below explains the best way the Redskins should do-

http://www.csnwashington.com/06/16/10/Skins-Best-Course-With-Haynesworth-Is-To/landing_09.html

Haynesworth himself has already stated yesterday he's going to show up at training camp which starts in July 29th.

http://www.csnwashington.com/06/15/10/Haynesworth-Statement-Regarding-Minicamp/landing_09.html

If Haynesworth skips training camp, I expect him to be fined until he shows up. If he doesn't at all, he'll be suspended at the beginning of the regular season.

Posted by: RedCherokee | June 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Report: Haynesworth will show up for training camp
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 2:46 PM ET
Despite his absence from a mandatory minicamp, recalcitrant Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth reportedly will show up for training camp when it opens on July 29.

If, of course, he's still on the team.

The report comes from Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan, who cites an unnamed NFL source.

But Haynesworth won't be showing up because he's finally seen the light. Instead, Russell reports that Haynesworth hopes to avoid potential litigation with the team, which would have a better argument when it comes to trying to get money back from the player if he doesn't show up for training camp.

As we've separately heard, Haynesworth's advisers believe that his only consequence for failing to show up for the mandatory minicamp is a fine in the neighborhood of $10,000.

So if/when he shows up, he may be acting like another player from another NFC East team five years ago.

We can only hope that Haynesworth won't eventually be doing shirtless sit-ups in his driveway.

Posted by: TWISI | June 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

This guy's a big cheat...getting his money and does nothing to comply with his signed "agreement" w/the Redskins...the highest in money terms in the history of the NFL!

Posted by: fbacolod29 | June 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So Alberts a d-bag, and Wilbon is an idiot. so many revelations so little time.

I started denying Wilbon last year. No article links on Wapo or Espn, no pti, even turn off sportscenter when they do that stupid mini pti. Its not to hard one you start, i suggest every one does.
RIP ST21.

Posted by: Stu27 | June 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

this story makes us all want to throw up.

i wish more stars were like this guy:

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/704892858/samuels

Posted by: bcarothers | June 16, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Coaches deal with malcontents all the time. There are 2 sides to a relationship. Its possible that there are zero circumstances which would have motivated Albert -- which is essentially your POV. But I doubt that. I doubt that a lot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse


No you are right. There is a circumstance under which AH would be motivated:

He has unilateral leverage to select the defensive scheme and how he'll be used in it on each play.

So. Is Shanny a bad coach for failing to create that circumstance??

Posted by: p1funk | June 16, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

What picks do we have next year?????

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Harvey Unga heads to the supplemental draft
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 11:22 AM ET
With the folks at Brigham Young giving the team's all-time leading rusher the boot due to allegations of premarital sex, the team's all-time leading rusher will be opting instead for the NFL.

A league source tells us that Harvey Unga will enter the July supplemental draft. He has generated 3,455 yards on the ground at the college level, averaging 4.9 yards per carry.

The supplemental draft unfolds like a silent auction, with teams submitting at the start of each "round" the name of any player they'd like to select. Priority is pre-determined based on 2009 records. Any team that obtains a player via the supplemental draft sacrifices the corresponding draft pick from the following year's entry draft.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

When's the sportswriting offseason? I wouldn't want Wilbon to hurt himself.

Posted by: SMACK1 | June 16, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

And this guy....

Vaness Emokpae lands in supplemental draft, too
Posted by Mike Florio on June 16, 2010 1:16 PM ET
Harvey Unga isn't the only guy who'll be taking a dip in the cold waters of the supplemental draft pool. Vaness Emokpae, a multi-purpose offensive threat from Truman State, also has joined the process.

Listed as a receiver, Emokpae will play fullback and H-back at the next level. And for good reason. He has packed 245 pounds onto a five-foot, 11-inch frame.

We're told that Emokpae already has been contacted by six NFL teams in the hopes of lining up a workout prior to the July supplemental selection process.

At Truman State, he played every position on offense except line, filling in as quarterback in the Wildcat. He also returned kickoffs. During his junior year, he also punted.

And he can easily jump onto a 52-inch box while standing still.

Take that, T.O.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, he read my post above? I guess his agent read him the $21 million version of the Riot Act.

Yeah, he's showing up. He'll weigh 400 pounds and go through the motions. Do the very minimum.

They have to pull the trigger on this fast. Like this week.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Domenik Hixon's season is over; turf may be to blame
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 16, 2010 2:28 PM ET
The Giants hope their first practice at the New Meadowlands Stadium isn't an omen.

Wide receiver Domenik Hixon will miss the 2010 season with a torn ACL suffered on Tuesday. The Giants initially thought Hixon escaped with a minor injury, but an MRI Wednesday afternoon revealed the full damage.

The Giants have to be sick because it appears the team's new FieldTurf is largely responsible. Coach Tom Coughlin, speaking before he knew the extent of Hixon's, spoke about breaking the turf in.

"We're aware of it, we're continuing to work with it, we're asking the turf people to take another look at the field and some of the thoughts we had about shoes and such," Coughlin said, adding: "I think it's pretty much new, just because it's new."

Hixon was second in the league in punt return average last year and is the team's best kick returner. He's also the team's No. 4 receiver.

And now he's gone for the year, apparently because the playing surface wasn't ready.

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Swallow it all. Take the cap hit and do everything in your power to trade Fat Albert to Denver.

He might literally die on the field in that thin air.

Since the president is shaking down all the big companies, maybe Barry Obama should pay Albert Butterworth a visit.

Finally, this is the chance for Snyder to really put his marketing background to work. Put together a campaign or TV ads, websites and press conferences to describe this fat loser as a common thief.

Albert, I'd like to kick your a........

I hope your kids turn out to be crackheads.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | June 16, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

They have to pull the trigger on this fast. Like this week.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 3:02 PM

Let's hope Dan pulled a bait-and-switch with the contract language, kinda like he did for Lavar.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

With all this HAynesworth drama...Greg has gotten lucky to NOT face the humulity from 713 and Learnedhand...

67 points?

In a FINALS Game Clincher???

WTF????

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Dont know about this guy Emokpae, maybe an offensive orakpo.

But Unga is legit I would faux with him even up to a 4th rounder. This should be a good year for RBs coming out. But Harvey looks like NFL material all the way.

Posted by: Stu27 | June 16, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

To me, much of the story is coming out in the small comments. Shanahan said he hasn’t spoken with Albert in months. That gives a pretty clear picture -- of two people who really can’t stand each other. If I’m president of a business, I speak with my highest paid and most talented employee.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Who's to say he hasn't tried to call? I remember Joe Gibbs having trouble on this front with Sean Taylor not returning his phone calls. Maybe AH told him to get lost. Really, if you want to blame Shanny, blame him for insisting on a 3-4 scheme, but that doesn't remotely justify what Haynesworth has done.

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

you know, the teeny-tiny fine print in invisible ink about any use of the word "bonus" herein shall be defined for the purposes of this contract as equivalent to "short term loan"

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Since I'm the one pointing a finger at both Albert and Shanahan, let me put out an example of what Shanahan could do.

Call Albert's agent. Here's the script:

Your client is getting sued by a guy he paralyzed in a car accident, by his ex-wife, and by a baby mama to be. Now he's gonna get sued by us. He's also pi$$ing off his teammates and the other players in the NFL who are going to lose out on bonuses because of this.

Your guy is on his way to becoming penniless and friendless. Your guy has a whole lot of garbage going on in his world. You better help him figure out his best friends in the whole darn world are right here in Redskins Park. We're mad at him today, but the damage can be repaired.

The sooner your guy gets his act together, the more likely we can put this thing back together again. If he doesn't get his act together, and soon, he has a lot to lose.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

This is the the thing....if Haynesworth wants to EVER play in the NFL again...

The REDSKINS hold all the cards here....

If he doesn't show up to anything.....they fine him...and fine him and fine him.

And get their money back that way.

Now that the bulk of his contract has been paid....his annual salaries for the rest of the contract are DIRT CHEAP.

The Redskins can effectively end his career in the NFL should they so choose to do it that way.

SEAN GILBERT this guy......he isn't going anywhere but the Failed to Report list.

If hayneworth wants to play on another team.....he's gonna have to give money back

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | June 16, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

4th, they played lousy no doubt, still a game to go, we'll see how ends up.

as I stated earlier once perk got hurt, the wind was out of their sails...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

The biggest double-crosser of all time!! If I were Shanahan, I'll not do anything to trade him...and will not release hi..Just hold on to him for the remaining contract years....and be the laughingstock of the NFL and its fans!@!

Posted by: fbacolod29 | June 16, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

LMAO...Just like when Lavar's agent didn't read the fine print and the Danny 'reneged', now the Danny is in the same boat

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...OH THE KARMA, THE IRONY...LMAO

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 16, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

With all this HAynesworth drama...Greg has gotten lucky to NOT face the humulity from 713 and Learnedhand...

67 points?

In a FINALS Game Clincher???

WTF????

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse
________

No smack talk from me today...67 points was wonderful and all, but game 7 looms. I'll save my gloating for Friday morning. I do have an interesting dilemma, though, for the consideration of the RI population. My son's 8 year old little league all-star team won its semi-final game the other day and is now going on to the district championship game. He's batting clean up and is the starting catcher (he didn't get his baseball talent from me - football and basketball are my games). Unfortunately - and this didn't really click with me until this morning - his big game is, of course Thursday evening right in the middle of the game. On top of that, this particular field is at least 30 mins from casa 713, all of which basically means that I can't be home for any of the game. So, my options: do I (1) skip his game to watch the finals (yikes)? (2) somehow acquire live handheld video to bring to the game? (3) shut myself off from the world until I can watch the DVR afterwards? (4) surrender and follow along via ESPN on blackberry, or (5) take him to a seedy bar after his game to try and catch the end live?

Somehow, even a Laker fanatic like me just can't do option #1 - both kid and Mrs. 713 would be, shall we say, upset. #5 wouldn't be too popular either. #2 would require a large purchase of an unknown gadget and for me to obviously be paying no attention to the baseball game. #3 isn't realistic for me. Sigh. I guess I'll just have to follow along on a blackberry. Unless you have a better solution....?

Posted by: skinsfan713 | June 16, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Snyder should take this team away from here you ingrates don't appreciate all that he has done for ya'll community. This team doesn't deserve such fickle facker fans like ya'll dummies

Posted by: Incognito00

Relax Dudes, This is an attempt at satire.

Posted by: TheCork | June 16, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

To me, much of the story is coming out in the small comments. Shanahan said he hasn’t spoken with Albert in months. That gives a pretty clear picture -- of two people who really can’t stand each other. If I’m president of a business, I speak with my highest paid and most talented employee.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Who's to say he hasn't tried to call? I remember Joe Gibbs having trouble on this front with Sean Taylor not returning his phone calls. Maybe AH told him to get lost. Really, if you want to blame Shanny, blame him for insisting on a 3-4 scheme, but that doesn't remotely justify what Haynesworth has done.

Posted by: Pepper5

We don't know a lot of the facts -- I said that right up front. You could be right. My take is this. There is only 1 adult in the relationship between Albert and Shanahan. Its up to the adult to find ways to make it work. Is Albert a bad guy here? Yes. The NFL has lots of prima donna sorts -- part of the job description of an HC (and team pres) is to deal with difficult personalities. It not like Shanahan has shied away from this. Heck, he's the guy who drafted Maurice Clarett.

As for the 3-4 issue, I suspect its a red herring.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

They have to pull the trigger on this fast. Like this week.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 3:02 PM

Let's hope Dan pulled a bait-and-switch with the contract language, kinda like he did for Lavar.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Nice. A bit of the ole now you see me now you dont.

Posted by: Stu27 | June 16, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

that's a darn shame. say what you will about AH but this guy is more calculated than I had thought. Along with being a selfish millionaire he's also unremorseful. D-hall actually tried to defend his large a$$.

Posted by: sthai75 | June 16, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse


They have to pull the trigger on this fast. Like this week.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 16, 2010 3:02 PM

Let's hope Dan pulled a bait-and-switch with the contract language, kinda like he did for Lavar.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | June 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Nice. A bit of the ole now you see me now you dont.

Posted by: Stu27 | June 16, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The ol' switcharoo

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 16, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Call Albert's agent. Here's the script:

Your client is getting sued by a guy he paralyzed in a car accident, by his ex-wife, and by a baby mama to be. Now he's gonna get sued by us. He's also pi$$ing off his teammates and the other players in the NFL who are going to lose out on bonuses because of this.

Your guy is on his way to becoming penniless and friendless. Your guy has a whole lot of garbage going on in his world. You better help him figure out his best friends in the whole darn world are right here in Redskins Park. We're mad at him today, but the damage can be repaired.

The sooner your guy gets his act together, the more likely we can put this thing back together again. If he doesn't get his act together, and soon, he has a lot to lose.

Posted by: zcezcest1

To people with a reasonable amount of common sense, logic, and integrity, this argument would hold water.

But I'm not sure Albert falls in those categories. And I'm not sure his agent is going to be saying anything to him AH doesn't want to hear.

But you've sketched out a likely scenario for AH's downfall--one that by all accounts is well deserved,

Posted by: TheCork | June 16, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Guess what? D-hall is an a$$ too!

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was SMACK talk after every game?

Greg and 713 tightening up....No more trash talk....Wow...Just Wow...

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 16, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

beeps, and 713, there is no choice to be made....I hope you weren't being serious...you go to the game...there is no other choice...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | June 16, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Guess what? D-hall is an a$$ too!

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Is D-Hall in camp and practicing? Is he crying about a new defense?

So don't put my precious D-Hall in the same category as that loser AH.

BTW he's a better jerk than Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 16, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Snyder needs to take the gloves off and give Fat Albert the Laverneous Coles treatment. Buy Fat Albert a big screen TV and tell him to go and watch the rest of the 2010 NFL season at home.

Posted by: Ronnie5 | June 16, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

We don't know a lot of the facts -- I said that right up front. You could be right. My take is this. There is only 1 adult in the relationship between Albert and Shanahan. Its up to the adult to find ways to make it work. Is Albert a bad guy here? Yes. The NFL has lots of prima donna sorts -- part of the job description of an HC (and team pres) is to deal with difficult personalities. It not like Shanahan has shied away from this. Heck, he's the guy who drafted Maurice Clarett.

As for the 3-4 issue, I suspect its a red herring.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 16, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

OK let's presume Shanny hasn't been looking for an easy solution with this tub 'o lard-- he's been looking to pick a fight and make an example out of AH. Fine by me; team needs to be shaken up.

On the other hand, I do wish MS was moreseriously committed to rebuilding than he seems to be and it would be terrible if he'd just sort of stumbled into this impasse with AH while lacking a plan for its resolution. Clarett was just a bad idea -- as so many of his draft picks were (another cause for worry).

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

There is almost a person for every dollar in that bonus out of a job in this country. He is gonna be the most hated sports figure in America!

He always talks about his LEGACY....

Posted by: skins91r | June 16, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Bernie Madoff is in prison for life for stealing large sums of money. Fat Albert stole $21 million from Dan Snyder, then claims they lied to him, but he took the money anyway.

Posted by: mjv18610 | June 16, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say A. Hall was as big a jerk as AH, But Meangelo still has a track record.

Posted by: Pepper5 | June 16, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Yo Butterswoth....it is obviuos your greasy , fat momma raised a greasy fat kid who is a thief to boot. It seems to me that if Shanny says and can prove Fatboy said he was ready willing and able to go in any defense and then took the check. he then uses a defense that he would have never agreed to play for a 3-4 team but told shanny the opposite of that when he accepted that check, he accepted the terms of it verbally. Verbal agreements can be binding in alot of cases. of course, this could not have happened to the most obnoxious owner of all time. Hey Dannyboy, you go thru life suing your seaon ticket holders and doing whatever you want, damn the consequences, then you get what you deserve. sometimnes you are the "sticker" and sometimes you are the "stuckee" . You and Fatsworth deserve each other. TWO SLIMY GEASEBALLS who i wish never represented the great burgandy and gold in any capacity....Turdsworth may have ruined his name but Snyder ruined our franchise. Go away both of you!..........please!

As for Charley Casserly opinions, he and his comments are welcomed and usually on the money.....As long as he is not the one picking a franchise QB( Shuler, Carr). ALL HAIL,THIS TOO SHALL PASS.....

Posted by: klangley69 | June 16, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Listening to one report today it said the Dan outbid himself in signing Haynesworth...this has happened before when the Dan really wants someone...This 21 mil being the largest check ever issued an NFL player boggles the mind....Archuleta was paid the largest salary for his position in NFL History...Archuleta....shame on the Dan......

Posted by: pentagon40 | June 16, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

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