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Posted at 1:35 PM ET, 12/ 7/2010

Shanahan explains Haynesworth suspension in a statement

By Rick Maese

The Albert Haynesworth Era in Washington may have reached its conclusion as the Redskins Tuesday suspended the disgruntled defensive lineman without pay for the final four games of the season, citing conduct detrimental to the team.

Haynesworth was notified of the decision Tuesday morning at Redskins Park by General Manager Bruce Allen, apparently because Haynesworth refuses to speak with Coach Mike Shanahan.

The team announced the decision in a news release Tuesday afternoon. Haynesworth is expected to appeal the team's suspension.

"Despite the club's numerous attempts to persuade Albert Haynesworth to abide by the terms of his contract, he has repeatedly refused to cooperate with our coaching staff in a variety of ways over an extended period of time," Shanahan said in a written statement.

Shanahan listed Haynesworth's chief offenses as: "he has consistently indicated to our defensive coaches that he refuses to play in our base defense or on first-down or second-down nickel situations. He also has refused to follow the instructions of our coaches both during weekly practices and during actual games as well."

The decision caps a year of drama that has surrounded the team since shortly after Shanahan arrived in town in January. Haynesworth, a nine-year veteran who has appeared in two Pro Bowls, was never on board with the team's decision to change to a 3-4 defense and had been mostly a situational player this season, playing primarily in third-down nickel packages.

Haynesworth has been paid more than $35 million in less than two seasons with the Redskins, including a $20 million bonus check in April. If the suspension stands, the Redskins will save nearly $850,000 in salary in the final four weeks of the season.

George Atallah, assistant executive director of external affairs for the NFL Players Association, said via Twitter: "all I can say at this time is that the NFLPA is reviewing the details" of Haynesworth's suspension.

The final straw for the organization appeared to be Haynesworth's actions over the past week. Coaches were not pleased with his performance at practice last Thursday and after he was too sick to practice on Friday, Shanahan deactivated Haynesworth Sunday for the game against the New York Giants.

Haynesworth said he disagreed with the decision and apparently made his feelings known to Allen on Monday.

"Yesterday, when Albert was at Redskins Park," Shanahan said in the release, "he told our General Manager Bruce Allen that he would no longer speak with me."

Haynesworth appeared in eight of the team's 12 games this season. After signing a record contract in February 2009, he played in 12 of 16 games last year under former Coach Jim Zorn.
In the eight games this year, Haynesworth was credited with 21 tackles and 2 1/2 sacks. His two-year totals as a Redskin: 77 tackles and 6 1/2 sacks.

It's unlikely he'll ever again suit up in burgundy and gold.

"Although suspending any player is not a decision that a head coach enters into lightly, I believe the situation has reached the point where the club clearly has no alternative," Shanahan said.

By Rick Maese  | December 7, 2010; 1:35 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Posted by: DreamOutLoud | December 7, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

see ya fat Al. go become an NFL defensive player of the year for another organization as we all know will happen

Posted by: fnkyniedls | December 7, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks again, Cerrato!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | December 7, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Ding, dong, the witch is dead, the wicked witch is deaaadddddd!!! ;)

Good riddance.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 7, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the most reasonable suggestion to end this debacle....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 7, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

oh well

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Defensive POY? No chance. He doesn't have the WILL.

Posted by: shanks1 | December 7, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

If anything the fans should boycott the last four games and request a refund for the terrible product put on the field for the Past 12 years
Posted by: jdb70 | December 7, 2010 12:45 PM

I’m going to put on my Cooley jersey and watch the games on my NFL ticket and root for the skins to play well and improve week to week. THAT is what “real” fans do. Fair weather fans cry about how people should go find another team…..

Incidentally, for anyone who thinks “boycotting” will get Snyder to sell the team, you should go take another hit off the crack pipe. If Danny ever hits a worst case scenario he will move the team to Los Angeles, not sell it.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 7, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan explains Haynesworth suspension in a statement


Explain to me how that fourth rounder from TENN wasn't worth it again...

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 7, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can get Haynesworth to play as goalie for the Caps. We could have used him last night.

Plus if he just lays there like he did in the Philly game, he could still have a pretty good save percentage.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 7, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

Seems like it was time to end all of this. They still control his destiny, so I hope we are able to get something in return for him. Ham sandwich and a coke is looking pretty good about now...

Posted by: edvar | December 7, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

$32 mil guaranteed for half-assing it for a year and change.

Worst part is the Titans or Lions or whatever team Jeff Fisher coaches next year will get him at a dollar-store discount.

Posted by: winker2233 | December 7, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

What a mess. This will still brew plenty of drama instead of ending it all. Guess they still want a low round draft pick for him when the draft comes around...but is it worth having to answer all these questions? Perhaps they should have released him, but the brass at Ashburn is clearly doing him no favors.

Posted by: tgerbracht | December 7, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The whole situation has been handled in an embarrassing fashion by both sides.

I sort of expect a knucklehead like Haynesworth to behave a certain way, but so far I have been very disappointed in Shanahan's handling of this, along with his other bizarre personnel decisions, including cutting DT when Galloway and Williams were contributing nothing. As the cat showed against us Sunday, he can play special teams. Same deal with the bonehead benching of McNabb in Detroit when the game was still winnable. And the Shanny's ludicrous, ever-changing explanations (none of which made sense) that followed.

I didn't expect an 11-5 season in Shanahan's first year and I am patient enough to wait for the rebuilding process, but his decisions and his demenaor are not at all what I expected from a Super Bowl winning head coach.

What grates on me most of all was bringing in Haslett and changing the defense - the one steady aspect to this franchise over the last few years - to a 3/4 that has us ranked dead last in the NFL.

So far I am unimpressed with Shanny.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins should have traded Fat Albert in the offseason, when they could have at least gotten a 3rd or 4th round draft choice for him. Now they will be lucky to get a 7th.

This whole situation is the cherry at the top of the mess that Snyder has visited upon this team over the last 10 years. Essentially $50+ million of salary cap money down the tubes. Money that could have been put to much better use.

And yes, by giving $32 million to that tub of lard in April instead of trying to trade him back to TENN for a 4th rounder is the ultimate in Synderesque Stupidity.

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | December 7, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

It was the right move...BUT

We all know...he will have 18 sacks, 2 pick sixes, block a punt and knock McNabb out of the game when he playes for the Eagles next year.

You heard it here first!

Posted by: silkydee1 | December 7, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

let the healing begin.

just don't hand him over for nothing to an NFC team fer chrissakes

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 7, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | December 7, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Tough position to be in.

Something tells me that Zorn would have let Albert do pretty much whatever he wanted to do.

At the end of it all, Shanahan has stuck to what he said he was going to do, so from that viewpoint...I am happy

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 7, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It was the right move...BUT

We all know...he will have 18 sacks, 2 pick sixes, block a punt and knock McNabb out of the game when he playes for the Eagles next year.

You heard it here first!

Posted by: silkydee1 |

They'll just have to take advantage of the plays when he takes himself out gasping for breath on the sidelines.

Posted by: skinswest | December 7, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Shanny: Hey Bruce! Call that Fisher guy.

Bruce: Your kidding, right?

Shanny: (Icey stare)

Bruce: Ok, I'm dialing

Shanny: Tell him we'll take that fourth rounder now.

Bruce: Maybe I should just pound my head into the wall instead?

Shanny: (Icey stare)

Bruce: Hey Jeff, it's Bruce Allen...

Shanny: What'd he say! What'd he say?

Bruce: Shut up man, I can't hear!

Shanny: What'd he say! What'd he say?

Bruce: Nothing. He was laughing so hard he passed out.

Posted by: edvar | December 7, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Seems like getting $$ back was the primary focus, not getting a draft pick. Wonder who gave that directive?

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:04 PM

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Haynesworth can file an appeal and have a grievance heard. So the saga is not yet over...unfortunately.

Posted by: i155133 | December 7, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The Skins are a mess and a national embarrasement! When will this nightmare end? The fans are sooooooooo fed up with this bush-league team. Just blow the whole thing up and start over again..... get the stink of Cerrato and Snyder off this team!!!!!!

Posted by: sd-bones | December 7, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Where are all of those supporters of the Haynesworth signing now? I told you so! The money we spent on his sorry, no-account behind (Thanks, Mr. Wilbon!) could have be used on multiple players at different positions. It hurts to see teams like St. Louis, Detroit, and Tampa continue to improve while the Skins become worse and worse with each passing year. Danny has destroyed this team and will continue to do so as long as fans keep supporting his hype machine.

Posted by: stwasm | December 7, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Seems like getting $$ back was the primary focus, not getting a draft pick. Wonder who gave that directive?

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:04 PM

The team gets back less that $1M. This is not a win, in any sense of the word.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Dumb move not following management orders Albert.

Redskins built a very strong case not to pay him anymore and the union cant to jack about it.

He will be a good fit with the Titans Moss, Young et al.

Posted by: alling | December 7, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

With any other team, I'd just rate this a horrible debacle. But the Redskins, being the Redskins, still have an opportunity to convert this epic fail to something truly legendary. I'm thinking trading Haynesworth to the Cowboys or the Eagles for pennies on the dollar, only to get destroyed by him several times a year for the next 6-8 years. Let's make this happen.

Posted by: zippyspeed | December 7, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Redskins are in total chaos, a projected win on every future opponent's game board.

Posted by: why231 | December 7, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

al will cry all the way to the bank!

Posted by: bobtyme | December 7, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I am a Redskin fan of 60 years standing and my thoughts are distant and present. On the latter, I am not a Shanahan fan. I think he was the wrong hire as head coach. I am utterly convinced his era with the Redskins is destined to go up in flames mainly because of several factors, including his "my way or the highway" approach. The Haynesworth saga is a prime example of this. A coach worthy of the name would have handled this entirely differently. There is so much to be said, and others will say it on this blog and in The Post. But Haynesworth really could have helped this team and the head coach put his ego in front. Bruce Allen's late father would have known how to handle Big Albert. Alas, Shanny does not and two or three seasons down the pike, all of you will see what I mean. A total disaster that will make even the abused Zorn look good as Redskin coach.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | December 7, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

as a major redskins fan north of the border since 1979 it pains me terribly to see what they have become in the past few years...I pine for the days of the hogs and joe gibbs and the fun bunch. Blame snyder all you want this year he brought in two respectable football people and for whatever reason shanny just doesnt want to roll with the times. we all kneww from the start it was nothing but headache after headache with haynesworth . get rid of him early . begin the season clean and see where we satnd now. i am not betting man but it clearly would have been a better situation than what we are in now..?????

Posted by: csavoia | December 7, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

AH and Shanny are both to blame for this debacle. Both should learn valuable lessons from this mess.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

A divorce lawyer will tell a client that there are only two things to fight over. Kids and money. That is it.

Well, Albert is getting divorced from us and there is only 1 thing left to decide. What compensation do we get? I'm guessing 5th round pick. Maybe nothing since teams might be reluctant to pick up the $5million contract.

To me, the best sales pitch Shanny can offer is this. If Albert is on your team, you want him on your team only in the year his contract ends. Because that is the year he'll play for his next deal and that is the only thing that motivates him.

Still ...

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him. I recall about 8 different entities making claims for Albert's money. He's earned his descent into whatever misery awaits him. Those days will come, probably sooner than later.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The amount of fair weather fans posting is pathetic. Skins have been down for a while (over a decade), we all should be used to it, and so have some faith in ShanAllen to get "their guys" next season and retool this program. Rebuilding doesn't happen overnight, but I guess a fair weather fan wouldn't realize that as they NEED instant gratification. Go root for another team, we don't want you!

Posted by: skins10 | December 7, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The team gets back less that $1M. This is not a win, in any sense of the word.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:13 PM

I am hearing they are going after some of the bonus they gave him this year.

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

How is it that every darn thing the Redskins touch turns to complete garbage? Honestly, it's like the Redskins should plan out what they're going to do, find the plan they like the best, and then they should do the complete opposite.

Really, though, I think the team's long-term stem first and foremost from the management's inability or lack of interest in getting talented offensive linemen. Consistently being able to run for 5 yards on first down solves a world of problems. Most of the offensive linemen on the Redskins would not be starting on most other teams. There's your problem right there. Offensive linemen do not generate stats or highlights or anything like that, and so it's very hard for a non-sophisticated football person (Snyder) to know what to look for. Anybody can see a guy score a touchdown, but a guy who has quick feet and can follow a complicated blocking scheme--well, that's tough to see.

Posted by: mlincoln1 | December 7, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

This is so mind boggling it's not even funny. I hope this humbles the owner for not thinking about the future of the organization; for trading away potential and for not being patient.
Arrogance is the downfall of this franchise. Obviously money can’t buy everything.

Posted by: dand0202 | December 7, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him. I recall about 8 different entities making claims for Albert's money. He's earned his descent into whatever misery awaits him. Those days will come, probably sooner than later.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM |

Sadly I don't think this is true. A quick look at Terrell Owens' career shows the even the most detrimental characters will continue to get chances by the eternally optimistic.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, why all the bitterness over this.

Its not our money and the guy is gone. Snyder learned a 35 million dollar lesson. He never produced so we are not missing a great talent.

Everyone says what a beast he is on the field, but they are using game film from 4 years ago. They guy is a bum and the rest of the league knows it.

Thanks to Shanahan for stnading up for tradition, which is get on board or get out.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | December 7, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Albert will want his millions for the last 4 games---he'll have high powered nfl players' union attorneys to sue for big money.

Posted by: Socialistic | December 7, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Ah, I've seen and heard enough of Shanny. We are not going to the superbowl ever with this guy. Mark it! I say this because he have too much control over the team and he does not fear for his job (Like Haynesworth) with a guarantee contract. I say stop signing anyone a guarantee contract. They'll play with lot of passion for sure!

Posted by: demonj21 | December 7, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Guys like Haynesworth require very stable organizations to perform to their abilities.

Dennis Rodman had that with Phil Jackson's Bulls. Dexter Manley & Riggo had that with Joe Gibbs' Redskins. Haynesworth had that with Jeff Fisher's Titans, and he may get that once again.

The Skins are an unstable and dysfunctional organization, which is why Haynesworth became a season-long distraction.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM

Zero. None of them will take this guy. They all have legitimate defenses and coaches who wouldn't want him in their locker rooms.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 7, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

See-ya Fat Al, you bum POS.

I would much rather have guys like Armstrong, Banks, LoAx, Fletch, Torain, Kwill who fight and claw for their spots.

Having a team of youngsters with something to prove is much better than an overpaid spoiled brat.

No we are not winning, and I'll eat crow for my 11-5 prediction.

but this team is moving in the right direction.

It all starts with the right attitude, and Shanahan is showing that crybaby b_tches won't cut it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | December 7, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Ought to forfiet the contract and kick him out of Redskins....we could find another guy than him.... Once he refused to listen then he will do anything he wants.

Posted by: Lacksb | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010

Not sure about that Zeke. He will have several teams after him. I just hope I never see him walking out of the visitors tunnel.

Don't easily dismiss Shanny's part in this mess either.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Dcwun- still blaming Shanahan for Albert's behavior??

UFB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....from day one, it's never been about what's best for the redskins. Shanny's focus has been on sticking it to haynesworth since he didn't show up to OTAs. The "best interest of the skins" has become secondary this year and it showed in their coaching and play. Now that AH is gone, who's next for shanny's doghouse.....Buchanon, Dockery, Hicks. Shanny has to have someone to focus on because it’s not about the skins, it’s about the fu^%*^% EGO.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

To add insult to injury, Fat Albert will win the appeal and get his $850K back. This flimsy excuse for a suspension will not hold.

Albert is a dope, BUT THE REDSKINS KNEW THAT BEFORE THEY SIGNED HIM!

The real bad news is that revealed that Shanny and Allen are TERRIBLE at managing people.

But what do I care?? I'm a Giant fan! HA,HA,HA!

Posted by: hoos3014 | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse
Probably only see him once a year, Alan. The other game he'll probably be inactive.

Posted by: frediefritz | December 7, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So

Posted by: hammer4 | December 7, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Haynesworth can file an appeal and have a grievance heard. So the saga is not yet over...unfortunately.

Posted by: i155133

He's not playing for this team again. The money and the low draft pick we might get for him are all that is left to haggle about. He's not going into the locker room again, except to clean his stuff out. Its over.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I am hearing they are going after some of the bonus they gave him this year.

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:20 PM

Will be interesting to see if they can make their charges, which basically amount to insubordination, stick.

Haynesworth says he wanted to play, they're saying he didn't... his word agains theirs.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Hum...I told a someone yesterday Ah would play for the Giants next year...Damn looking like it could happen.

Posted by: fat_back | December 7, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone asked LeVar Arrington if this situation sounds or feels vaguely familiar to him? Laverneus Coles? Donovan McNabb?

Not a fan by any stretch, but to see that stringer line on CSN about "team sources say that Haynesworth 'appeared' hungover and missed practice" were rather chilling. It feels like I have seen this movie before. The Redskins don't want him around and are doing everything possible to undermind Albert Hayneworth. We don't know the entire story, but there are two sides to every story and damn, the ownership and management of this team LOVES to assasinate a player's character, intelligence, etc. to justify their own mistakes. Just saying.

Posted by: ljo211 | December 7, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

To those who don't think AH will continue to be a lazy azz -

he is going to be pissed off at Shanahan. I would not want to face him if he lands on another NFC East team - and I have this suspicion that he'll do exactly that!

Posted by: charley42 | December 7, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

He should have NEVER been on the team in the first place. The whole world last season knew that this team needed offensive line help, instead they went out and broke the bank on this fool. Snyder and Cerrato have buried this team so far into the ground it may take years for them to become respectable again. As a once proud season ticket holder it is becoming harder and harder to justify dumping good money on this team each season when it could be going towards things like, I don't know, my kids college funds.

Posted by: Monkman63 | December 7, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow, way to drive the value down on a 100 million dollar investment. If he had issues and you didn't like him then you keep that crap in house and drive up his value by letting him play then you get rid of him. This organization is stupid. It's hard to have hope when reality says that team is going to suck for another 5 years even if we started doing everything correctly as of right now.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 7, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

So he's out for the next 4 games. What about the playoffs
?

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 7, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The Shanahan regime reminds me of the Schottenheimer one.

You've got a headstrong, stubborn disciplinarian as a coach - great. But you don't have a guy who seems to be bringing any fun to the game for the players. I suppose times have changed a lot, but Gibbs (1.0 at least) had a lot of life to it because Gibbs understood there was more to motivation than the other two realize. No, I'm not party to what goes on day-to-day, but it's a feeling I get and I think it's important to note when analyzing the current situation.

Gibbs knew his boundaries between coach and player, but he knew that if players got too tense, too tight, they wouldn't perform. So he had goofy contests for the players. He interacted with them more on the sidelines. And I think maybe he listened to them a little more; when I think about the pulling McNabb incident, I really get the feeling of a big gulf between coaching staff and players that isn't helpful to getting the best out of the players you have. Just a thought.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Ask anyone in the sport legal field, they will tell you not paying a player is a mission impossible.

Posted by: RickJohnson621 | December 7, 2010 1:15 PM |

Rick, year one of law school: Contracts.

Contracts are contracts whether they deal with sports or smoking fools/owning chumps.

You're also mistaken about the Skins "paying". They already paid and trust me, Haney aint worried about his salary. It's the 35+ million worth of bonus money he already has.

I'm not saying it's going to be easy but they have a hell of a shot due to the utter audacity on the part of Haney as well as his comments, public and private, that essentially prove he willingly and knowingly breached his contract which involved signing bonuses paid.

Like I said, you'll see and I don't know what will come of this, but I know exactly what I'm talking about and I promise you that Snyder's attorneys are a lot smarter than me - which means they are light years smarter than you.

Book that sh*t.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?"

Possibly, but who cares? AH is a waste. I hope he goes to another NFC East team. That way, when he's laying on the turf, we'll have one less defender to deal with. And, that's assuming he's not on the sideline, taking a knee, gasping like a fish on dry land!

Posted by: eedchic | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

If Albert Haynesworth is released, I hope other NFL teams will realize he's nothing but trouble and refuse to sign him until he demonstrates a major change in his attitude.

Posted by: jjlc125 | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

at least with coles, he brought back moss...AH ain't bringing back crap...does he still get a flat screen or does this warrant vanilla ice cream, I can't remember.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Bruce Allen's late father would have known how to handle Big Albert. "

In the era before $100 M contracts, George Allen would have cut Haynesworth before the name tag was installed in his office. Allen was able to work with a lot of players that other coaches couldn't, but he would have had no use for a malcontent layabout like AH.

If half of what was said today is true, the only way Shanahan could have dealt with this better was to cut him loose last summer. Unfortunately, the money (Snyderatto's revenge) made that impossible.

Posted by: zimbar | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This was a lose-lose situation, not win-win. I'm not sure about Shanahan anymore -- I'm wondering whether Shanahan put his own ego before his team in sitting Haynesworth. The only way this team gets better long-term is if it follows the recommendations of Brian Mitchell, which is what many fans have believed for sometime. The team needs to rebuild the offensive and defensive lines before addressing needs for specialty players.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | December 7, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Drunk, Fat, Lazy and a bum, Get outta here Fat Al!!!

personally I really don't care about how much Snyder invested on this pig, that's what you get for doing this kind of business for the last decade.

now, if we can start firing some other players that are not willing to play hard for this team maybe just maybe the Skins maybe a decent organization in 2 years


4 more games and the torture is over

Hail Deadskins!

Posted by: alucard1 | December 7, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?"

Possibly, but who cares? AH is a waste. I hope he goes to another NFC East team. That way, when he's laying on the turf, we'll have one less defender to deal with. And, that's assuming he's not on the sideline, taking a knee, gasping like a fish on dry land!

Posted by: eedchic | December 7, 2010 1:33 PM |

That would be a nice outcome. Haney lands with an NFC East team? Run a hurry-up and run right at his winded ass.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I feel worse for my father, who at 58 will surely have to endure the tenure of Dan $nyder until he dies.

Posted by: mjsciann1 | December 7, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010

Not sure about that Zeke. He will have several teams after him. I just hope I never see him walking out of the visitors tunnel.

Don't easily dismiss Shanny's part in this mess either.

Posted by: dcwun

Albert may yet have an upward bump along the way. But he's Enron. Looked great for a while, but that house of cards is going to crash. He'll be bankrupt within 10 years, probably much sooner than that.

and fwiw, I've been pretty critical of Shanahan's role in all this. Even though its mostly on Albert, Shanahan is the mature man with all the worldly experience.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Guys like Haynesworth require very stable organizations to perform to their abilities.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Funny.

I thought guys like Haynesworth required financial incentive to motivate. Not coincidence that AH's went into beastmode 2 yrs prior to contract being up.

Also your Rodman example is wrong. Phil coached Rodman 3yrs. Rodman 5x NBA champion. Check his other awards, Phil did not make Rodman.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 7, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Is this really proving anything? Haynesworth will now appeal to an arbitrator and unless something serious is proven, he's very likely to win. Four games is serious indeed. Yes, you've saved $850,000, but what have you lost? There's no way AH can ever play again for the Skins after this, his market value just dropped from a sixth round pick to maybe something that the Redskins can use to move up two spots in a draft. Now, undoubtedly Reid and Steinberg are happy indeed right now, but the Redskins, having shot themselves in the foot, are responding by shooting themselves in the other foot.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 7, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

My guess is AH will become a Jet next season. Kris Jenkins has had season-ending injuries the last two years, and Rex Ryan, unlike Shanahan, will be able to get Albert to play at a high level again.

The people who say no GM would touch AH are really funny though. They are probably the same people who laughed very hard when the topic up here was "should the Skins sign Michael Vick?"

And we all know how that turned out.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

so this worked out exactly as everyone assumed it would two years ago. thanks for playing, skins.

Posted by: funkey | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Dcwun- still blaming Shanahan for Albert's behavior??

UFB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 7, 2010

No, what I said was they are both to blame. I'm not excusing what AH did but Shanny could have ended this "fued" before the season started.

Shanny developed the My Way Mike moniker long be he arrived in Ashburn. He'd better adjust like Coughlin did in NY or he will be out in 2 years.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I feel worse for my father, who at 58 will surely have to endure the tenure of Dan $nyder until he dies.

Posted by: mjsciann1 | December 7, 2010 1:36 PM |

Look on the bright side MJ, your dad will witness the deaths of Castro, Kim Jong-Il, Jimmy Carter and George Soros.

Lots to live for there. Besides, 58 and already talking about death? Man, with the medical advancements these days, he's probably got a good 40 years left.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him. I recall about 8 different entities making claims for Albert's money. He's earned his descent into whatever misery awaits him. Those days will come, probably sooner than later.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM |

Sadly I don't think this is true. A quick look at Terrell Owens' career shows the even the most detrimental characters will continue to get chances by the eternally optimistic.

Posted by: fan-o-matic

Owens is a very different creature than Albert. Very very different. Owens is super high strung and hard to be around for any extended time, but he's never been lazy or comfortable playing badly

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

so, at this point i'd like to raise a practical question: if a player is "suspended for conduct detrimental to the team", can they refill that roster spot?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Folks, my question is are the Skins in for a long, drawn out, union greivence that will require them to pay Albert Haynesworth anyway? What happens if the Skis lose the greivence?

Posted by: dbruce1973 | December 7, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Okay folks. Move along now. Nothing more to see here.

Now back to your regularly scheduled issues facing the Redskins, already in progress. Darn it, a re run again.

Posted by: splitbill | December 7, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Remember that stat guy, Brian Burke? He wrote this on 12 Nov:

The defensive line has not been a standout unit for the Redskins. Vonnie Holliday leads the group with a 0.63 +WPA -- meaning his positive impact plays have totaled 63 percent of a single win. A large chunk of that is thanks to the hit he put on Bears quarterback Jay Cutler as he threw a crucial fourth interception of the game. Holliday also put a hit on Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford with 4 minutes to play, forcing a critical incompletion on third down. Albert Haynesworth is second on the line with 0.41 +WPA, despite limited playing time.


So like it or not, we're losing one of our best defensive players.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Folks, my question is are the Skins in for a long, drawn out, union greivence that will require them to pay Albert Haynesworth anyway? What happens if the Skis lose the greivence?

Posted by: dbruce1973 | December 7, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Albert the fall guy. Knew it was coming when the smear campaign was ramping up last night. Haynesworth is a problem but not the only problem. Just a chance for all the "everything is sunny in redskin land" people to deflect the real issues.

Posted by: jwzephyr | December 7, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

So does this open a roster spot?

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

On the upside, there is this"

Collector's Edition #92 Jerseys, Now on Sale at redskins.com

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

so, at this point i'd like to raise a practical question: and... are we gonna do stonehenge?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 7, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

So does this open a roster spot?

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:42 PM |

Yes. And I suggest signing yet another no-name RB, because you can never have enough RBs when your passing game sucks and your defense is ranked last in the league.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Albert's pathetic existence is likely to get worse. Few GMs will want to take the risk of signing him. I recall about 8 different entities making claims for Albert's money. He's earned his descent into whatever misery awaits him. Those days will come, probably sooner than later.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM |

Sadly I don't think this is true. A quick look at Terrell Owens' career shows the even the most detrimental characters will continue to get chances by the eternally optimistic.

Posted by: fan-o-matic

Owens is a very different creature than Albert. Very very different. Owens is super high strung and hard to be around for any extended time, but he's never been lazy or comfortable playing badly

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:40 PM |

I see GMs - coaches thinking of either one of them, "Hm, yeah, he's been problematic, but he clearly has talent - he just needs ME to motivate him. The (insert team name here) just didn't know how to handle the guy."

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Problem is...this virtually assures that we will be giving up 200 yards on the ground every week for the rest of the season.

It just keeps getting better.

Posted by: edvar | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

About as likely as one of our draft busts leaving and then blocking a punt against us. Hey, wait a minute........

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Nobody could pay me that amount of money to be a person like this guy. I cannot wait until he is gone. I almost hope the Skins keep him next year and suspend him for the entire season. I want them to be spiteful. Does this guy have any idea how many people wish they had the ability to play football for millions of dollars? Yet he acts like a 7 year old school girl refusing to talk to the coach of the team he looked in the eye and said he was on board. What a terrible person there is no amount of money someone could offer to be anything like this prick.

Posted by: Mike4169 | December 7, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Fat, worthless and without a clue, that's who $100,000,000 should be given to.

When does he get a sports talk show where he can bash Synder for giving him millions of dollars? Oh thanks right, Lavar has that covered.

Posted by: DaveLopan | December 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM |

You might be the dumbest individual here.

Cheers to you! That's one hell of a task.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Snyder & Cerrato signed AH.

35 MILLION dollar lesson for Snyder!!!

Don't let Snyder run Football Operations on the field

BTW Shanny needs to tell his son to come up with a more credible offense in the next 4 games or he is going to be FIRED too.

Posted by: digtldesk | December 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Redskins turn to a familiar face, bring back Antonio Pierce
December 7, 2010
Michael Florio

In the wake of suspending Albert Haynesworth, thus creating a roster space, the Washington Redskins have brought back Antonio Pierce. More details to follow, but we're hearing that Pierce has stayed in shape, and is looking to make a comeback for the 2011 season as well. Stay tuned.

Wow....just wow...from pft...yikes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that all sports in america are racist against white people. How come most of the players are black? HMMMM? Rediculous. The only thing that I can thick of is that blacks and whites are different, otherwise each team should have 50% white and 50% black players. This has nothing to do with Haynsworth...I just wanted to piss a lot of people off. HEHEE.

Posted by: Finnochio | December 7, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

The amount of fair weather fans posting is pathetic. Skins have been down for a while (over a decade), we all should be used to it, and so have some faith in ShanAllen to get "their guys" next season and retool this program. Rebuilding doesn't happen overnight, but I guess a fair weather fan wouldn't realize that as they NEED instant gratification. Go root for another team, we don't want you!

Posted by: skins10 | December 7, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

F U, there hasn't been any fair weather around here since 1992. What we have here is climate change. We're the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NFL. At least they have an excuse. They're broke.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

This Haynesworth ....interlude... is merely "the tip of the iceberg" as far as how deep the Redskins' problems go!

not only are the players mediocre but all are over paid and the

team and it ownership/management ... just a bunch of GREEDIES...

after all the Redskin Franchise makes more money even when loosing than ANY OTHER team ... EVER!!

last time I was at a Redskin game was when Eddie Labaron was Q-B

Posted by: edbaker2 | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

fan-o-matic,

what was so bad about the Schottenheimer regime? That is the one bright spot during the Snyder era. Once the players stopped whining about having to work for a living they started winning games, against good teams, with a far less talented QB then they have now. Schottenheimer's only mistake was sticking with Jeff George for as long as he did. Look at his overall winning record. It's one of the highest.

Posted by: tigger0705 | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I blame MS for nothing in the case of AH. It's a player's obligation to give their best, as it is anyone that takes a paycheck. If Albert doesn't understand that, that is his own moral dilemma, not Mike's.

It's a shame it came to this, and it would appear the organization really made an effort to work with AH - but he just wouldn't budge.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Problem is...this virtually assures that we will be giving up 200 yards on the ground every week for the rest of the season.

Posted by: edvar

Agreed. Book it!

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Mike Forior on espn980 says very doubtful that Skins get any money back. Should've traded him so long ago.

Posted by: TWISI | December 7, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

This Haynesworth ....interlude... is merely "the tip of the iceberg" as far as how deep the Redskins' problems go!

not only are the players mediocre but all are over paid and the

team and it ownership/management ... just a bunch of GREEDIES...

after all the Redskin Franchise makes more money even when loosing than ANY OTHER team ... EVER!!

last time I was at a Redskin game was when Eddie Labaron was Q-B

Posted by: edbaker2 | December 7, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Breach of contract

Posted by: southportwave | December 7, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Breach of contract

Posted by: southportwave | December 7, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Breach of contract

Posted by: southportwave | December 7, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic Organization!
Pathetic Coach!
Pathetic handling of players!

Give up $32M and get less than $1M back.

THAT'S THE REDSKINS FOR YA!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS!

Posted by: keedrow | December 7, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad this has happened in year of Shanahan. It will stand as a reminder to every other player that no matter how good your resume is, you play by Shanny's rules or you don't play at all.

This is not unlike the mutiny that Coughlin fomented when he first got started in NY. And best I can tell, the players have all adjusted to Coughlin and his strict rules.

Posted by: sgmd | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey, we've got Rabach to handle him, no worries!!

Posted by: stevek20147 | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I see GMs - coaches thinking of either one of them, "Hm, yeah, he's been problematic, but he clearly has talent - he just needs ME to motivate him. The (insert team name here) just didn't know how to handle the guy."

Posted by: fan-o-matic

Owens and Albert are very different. Owens problems are sort of the opposite of Albert's. Neither guy is fun to manage, but when was the last time Owens was out of shape?

Heck, the 49ers were upset with Owens when he decided to play minor league b-ball in the offseason. Owens was doing too much!! Kind of the opposite of Albert.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that all sports in america are racist against white people. How come most of the players are black? HMMMM? Rediculous. The only thing that I can thick of is that blacks and whites are different, otherwise each team should have 50% white and 50% black players. This has nothing to do with Haynsworth...I just wanted to piss a lot of people off. HEHEE.

Posted by: Finnochio | December 7, 2010 1:50 PM |

I grasp your sarcasm but why not? Hell, whites and Christians are the first people to have stones thrown at them anyway these days.

You can't even get a good job unless you're a black-Chinese woman with a prosthetic leg anyway.

You know, the only thing better would have been to see how Al Davis would have handled this.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

the problem is there aint enough chinks on the team

Posted by: Finnochio | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

For those of you saying, "great, now he will be a Pro-Bowl player for someone else." Don't buy into that statement. Not that he might not end up being a pro bowl player for someone else but there was no way he would have become that for us so in that sense, holding on to him out of fear that he might be better somewhere else just is not a good policy to follow. Now that he is gone, who cares about him and who cares where he goes. Trust me, he's not going to change and he will be someone else's problem.

Posted by: JWPinCHI | December 7, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MrRedskin21

So far I am unimpressed with Shanny.


I have to saw that increasingly, I'm coming to this very same conclusion.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 7, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have enough issues after thir last game against the Giants, so they really don't need the Haynesworth drama. Haynesworth is making more money chasing a little football around than he'd ever make doing anything important (if he could ever do anything important). He should be happy and glad to do whatever an NFL team asks him to do for the money he's getting paid. Haynesworth is a big a-- p---y! He needs to just SHUT UP ALREADY and PLAY FOOTBALL, otherwise, quit and go somewhere and sit down because NO WANTS TO HEAR HIS WHINNING!!!!!!

Posted by: msmarti2u2 | December 7, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

All of this disfunction makes me easily forget that St. Joe did come back to put this franchise back on track. If only Danny would've followed Gibbs succession plan.........Bring back the Double G!

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

fan-o-matic,

what was so bad about the Schottenheimer regime? That is the one bright spot during the Snyder era. Once the players stopped whining about having to work for a living they started winning games, against good teams, with a far less talented QB then they have now. Schottenheimer's only mistake was sticking with Jeff George for as long as he did. Look at his overall winning record. It's one of the highest.

Posted by: tigger0705 | December 7, 2010 1:51 PM |

There was a lot of grumbling and dissent among the players in the first half of the season. I can't remember which game it was but I recall that it was a unanimous appraisal that the Redskins just gave up in the 3rd quarter. It was a real lowpoint.

Schottenheimer proceeded to listen to what was going on and to make a change. Instead of being the intransigent hardass, he began to lighten up. The team improved and ended up with a decent season. It looked like Marty had found a groove, one that players bought into. And then he got booted.

I should have amended my earlier post to include the change in attitude that took place that year.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you must really not like punctuation. I think I got a headache reading this! Good thing PlayAction's not here, he would call this dive ass a NERD!!!!

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have enough issues after their last game against the Giants, so they really don't need the "Haynesworth drama". Haynesworth is making more money chasing a little football around than he'd ever make doing anything important (if he could ever do anything important). He should be happy and glad to do whatever any NFL team asks him to do for the money he's getting paid. Haynesworth is a big a-- p---y! He needs to just SHUT UP ALREADY and PLAY FOOTBALL, otherwise, quit and go somewhere and sit down because NO WANTS TO HEAR HIS WHINNING!!!!!! I don't care much for the Redskins, but I would respect them for finally dealing with Haynesworth and HITTING HIM WHERE IT HURTS...IN HIS POCKETBOOK!!

Posted by: msmarti2u2 | December 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

A good coach would have found a way to get this man on the field regularly to take his fustrations out on the opponent.

SHANAHAN SUCKS!

Posted by: keedrow | December 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I feel worse for my father, who at 58 will surely have to endure the tenure of Dan $nyder until he dies.

Posted by: mjsciann1 | December 7, 2010 1:36 PM |

Look on the bright side MJ, your dad will witness the deaths of Castro, Kim Jong-Il, Jimmy Carter and George Soros.

Lots to live for there. Besides, 58 and already talking about death? Man, with the medical advancements these days, he's probably got a good 40 years left.


Still not long enough to see the Death of Snyder. KNowing my dad, he'd let all four of those guys live to 100 to see Danny Drop tomorrow.

Posted by: mjsciann1 | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

This is not unlike the mutiny that Coughlin fomented when he first got started in NY. And best I can tell, the players have all adjusted to Coughlin and his strict rules.


Posted by: sgmd | December 7, 2010

No, Coughlin backed off and learned how to deal with players better.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, just maybe, this will persuade the 'Skins to stop wasting draft choices and millions of dollars on washed up has-beens and to START DRAFTING YOUNG NEW TALENT.

Posted by: cypheractive | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

1) The Redskins will lose any sort of grievance against Albert.
2) They will get no money back from him.
3) Albert will play somewhere else, and be more motivated, for a while.
4) The Reskins are still in a pickle, because no one will trade for him, they will have to release him. He can get picked up by any other team.

Posted by: glennrc | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

1) The Redskins will lose any sort of grievance against Albert.
2) They will get no money back from him.
3) Albert will play somewhere else, and be more motivated, for a while.
4) The Reskins are still in a pickle, because no one will trade for him, they will have to release him. He can get picked up by any other team.

Posted by: glennrc | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Some people will just believe anything. Here's what I don't know: Was Albert not able to practice because of a hangover? Here's what I know: This team plays better when he's on the field. Here's also a scary trend I'm seeing: You have players who are drafted late or undrafted such as Rod Smith, Brandon Banks, Anthony Armstrong that he can control and likes and plays. Then you have players like Haynesworth, Portis (when he had him in Denver),Brandon Marshall (known that Shanahan was going to trade him before he was fired) and Devin Thomas (drafted in 2nd round and potential unknown). He doesn't relate or like top players with elite potential. Maybe his own ego won't allow it. But this won't work because our owner loves marketable people. So there's a chance we'll never have a top player because of Shanahan, which in the end won't work because our owners loves them. Once their honeymoon is over Shanahan will be gone shortly and then we loyal fans will have to start over.
I hold out a little hope in Shanahan and that he is the right coach and we have to go thru this turmoil and he knows what he's doing and this isn't ego talking. But I'm losing even that little hope because unless John Elway falls in our lap Shanahan has proven he can do little else. As a 31 year old true gold and burgandy fan I'm growing very tired. Oh, so very tired!

Posted by: sdavey355 | December 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

MrRedskin21 you are on point. AH will have no problem finding a job. That is why the 'Skins suspended him as opposed to releasing him. Releasing AH allows him to go to a playoff bound team to help them in pursuit of the SB. A lot of the AH haters forget how well a motivated AH stops teams on 3rd and short and 4th and 1. Game changing plays that equates to wins in a 16 game season where every win is important. We passed on a lot of available talent this year because the Coach is anything but. Shannihan has never coached anyone up to reach their potential. That is not his strong point. He is not a good fit for a "rebuilding" team - unless he is the GM.

Posted by: SPUD2 | December 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

$35 mill for 2 non pro bowl seasons on a losing team; for a losing franchise that is THE butt of all NFL teams the past 15 seasons ... A typical Dan Snyder ROI conclusion (see Deion, Bruce, Adam, Jason T. McNabb). The last 2 I cited actually cost draft picks. Dummies

Let me get this straight. On last weekend, coach said he was "sick" and couldn't play. He didn't play because of the COACHES decision and it's FAT AL's FAULT - LOL

Or is it that no playoffs are now finally a reality to many (was to me last summer) so now they make the move?

He'll leave with $35 mill of Dan Dummies $ and play somewhere else next season. My bet is Dallas or Philly.

What exactly did he do? Didn't come to the VOLUNTARY summer camp, which was VOLUNTARY.
LOL

He'll get his $ because the Skins cannot justify WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID WRONG to the union. Tried this 12 months ago with Zorn too.

Posted by: morrisday1 | December 7, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Owens and Albert are very different. Owens problems are sort of the opposite of Albert's. Neither guy is fun to manage, but when was the last time Owens was out of shape?

Heck, the 49ers were upset with Owens when he decided to play minor league b-ball in the offseason. Owens was doing too much!! Kind of the opposite of Albert.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 1:55 PM |

Well I see your point. I would love it if AH got the treatment he deserves. Here's hoping.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Albert "The Chicken" Aintworth. Goodbye!!!

Posted by: Danbauchi1 | December 7, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

If you moved the Skins to the NFC West, you'd be in second place.

Posted by: edwcorey | December 7, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM |

You might be the dumbest individual here.

Cheers to you! That's one hell of a task.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm gonna be sick saying this, but we actually agree on something!

That's a good point beep, how do you lead and control all of us freaks? Keep up the good work!

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

What are the odds he goes to an NFC East team and gets to face us twice a year?

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Hope he does. Also hope we find and hire the biggest, baddest and meanest offensive lineman we can to beat the living crap out of him twice a year.

Posted by: Vic1 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I have been a LOYAL redskin fan for nearly 30 years and I've been there through the good times and the bad. I've also been an avid football fan watching just as many years of football and has coached football as well, leading a team to a championship. And let me get one thing perfectly clear about Albert Haynesworth.

Albert Haynesworth is the modern day Dana Stubberfield. Exactly like him in every detail. A 1st round Nose tackle, with tons of potential with his first team and considered a bust until the final year of his contact when he played very well and was able to earn himself a massive contract by the redskins, both the biggest for the nfl nose tackle at the time. Only exception is that this time they had the common sense to get rid of him after two years and not wait till three. And whats sad is Dana Stubberfield still had a way better career than Haynesworth had by this time, so its almost unfair to Dana to make this comparison.

But both players had massive potential and never lived up to it. Albert will be a bum wherever he goes, because he did it for the money and now he has it. Albert doesn't play the game cause he loves to play (Ray Lewis...many more) or because he wants revenge on teams (Tom Brady...many more). He plays for MONEY and MONEY ALONE, he's cashed his big check and will be a bust like he was before his deal was coming up. Trade him back to the dysfunctional Titans (cause there the only team that really wants him) and let them deal with him, he actually fits in over there and there team that implodes on defense every year.

And don't compare Terrell Owens to Albert, Terrell Owens plays and plays well wherever he goes, he's not a ONE SYSTEM GUY like albert. Terrell would and has put up numbers wherever he went.

The redskins are building but it will take time, you can't build a offensive line in one year but they've found at least two or three starters in Trent WIlliams, Will Montgomery/Kory Leitenger (at center and right guard...depends though) and will build more on it next offseason. Rebuilding takes time.

And I don't know why all these fair weather fans are posting, your bandwagon fans your opinion doesn't matter because if things are going bad you'll just choose another team anyway. That is not a real fan, I don't care how much "support" you given for how many years.

Everyone knew this team wasn't that good last year 4-12, and was so because of lack of talent. You don't get enough team talent to be consistently 10-6 in one year, you can't even to it in 2 to be honest with you. This will take time, but things are moving in the right direction, real fans support your team, fair weather fans jump of the bandwagon but don't jump back on when where good again.

Posted by: culprit59 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan never wavered in his treatment of AH, he was consistent. Shanny had to try to get some value(other than a 3rd or 4th pick) from someone his BOSS paid millions to play here. It played out exactly as what the vast majority of people thought it would. So what? Anyone that thinks AH having a pro-ball year would have gotten this team into the playoffs is smoking crack.

There have been mis-steps by Shanahan this year, but the AH saga is not one of them.

A new coach and GM, no matter who it is, wasn't going to undo 10+ years of Dumb and Dumber having their hands on the makeup of this team. The Skins have a long way to go to get respectable, don't even think about it for the next 2 years.

Posted by: Ratzoe | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I have been a LOYAL redskin fan for nearly 30 years and I've been there through the good times and the bad. I've also been an avid football fan watching just as many years of football and has coached football as well, leading a team to a championship. And let me get one thing perfectly clear about Albert Haynesworth.

Albert Haynesworth is the modern day Dana Stubberfield. Exactly like him in every detail. A 1st round Nose tackle, with tons of potential with his first team and considered a bust until the final year of his contact when he played very well and was able to earn himself a massive contract by the redskins, both the biggest for the nfl nose tackle at the time. Only exception is that this time they had the common sense to get rid of him after two years and not wait till three. And whats sad is Dana Stubberfield still had a way better career than Haynesworth had by this time, so its almost unfair to Dana to make this comparison.

But both players had massive potential and never lived up to it. Albert will be a bum wherever he goes, because he did it for the money and now he has it. Albert doesn't play the game cause he loves to play (Ray Lewis...many more) or because he wants revenge on teams (Tom Brady...many more). He plays for MONEY and MONEY ALONE, he's cashed his big check and will be a bust like he was before his deal was coming up. Trade him back to the dysfunctional Titans (cause there the only team that really wants him) and let them deal with him, he actually fits in over there and there team that implodes on defense every year.

And don't compare Terrell Owens to Albert, Terrell Owens plays and plays well wherever he goes, he's not a ONE SYSTEM GUY like albert. Terrell would and has put up numbers wherever he went.

The redskins are building but it will take time, you can't build a offensive line in one year but they've found at least two or three starters in Trent WIlliams, Will Montgomery/Kory Leitenger (at center and right guard...depends though) and will build more on it next offseason. Rebuilding takes time.

And I don't know why all these fair weather fans are posting, your bandwagon fans your opinion doesn't matter because if things are going bad you'll just choose another team anyway. That is not a real fan, I don't care how much "support" you given for how many years.

Everyone knew this team wasn't that good last year 4-12, and was so because of lack of talent. You don't get enough team talent to be consistently 10-6 in one year, you can't even to it in 2 to be honest with you. This will take time, but things are moving in the right direction, real fans support your team, fair weather fans jump of the bandwagon but don't jump back on when where good again.

Posted by: culprit59 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

So trade wise, is this worse the Adam Archuletta? Jason Taylor? Deon?

Posted by: glennrc | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

>>The Shanahan regime reminds me of the Schottenheimer one.

Well, Marty's team finished 8-3 after an 0-5 start, including 5 straight wins after the 0-5 start. He also had the sense to focus on the run, giving the ball like crazy to Stephen Davis.

I agree Mike and Marty each have egos the size of Mount Rushmore, and each had to deal with a total head-case (WR Michael Westbrook in Schottenheimer's case). At least Schottenheimer eventually got his team to play like a winner. Who knows? Maybe if he'd gotten more than one season, Marty S. might've turned the ship around.

Posted by: blackjack65 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Redskins turn to a familiar face, bring back Antonio Pierce
December 7, 2010
Michael Florio

In the wake of suspending Albert Haynesworth, thus creating a roster space, the Washington Redskins have brought back Antonio Pierce. More details to follow, but we're hearing that Pierce has stayed in shape, and is looking to make a comeback for the 2011 season as well. Stay tuned.

Wow....just wow...from pft...yikes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

priceless

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Just ridiculous.As bad as this team is they need all hands on deck.Shanahan your days as HC are numbered.

Posted by: curly44 | December 7, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

4) The Reskins are still in a pickle, because no one will trade for him, they will have to release him. He can get picked up by any other team.

Posted by: glennrc | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM |

So you're saying that rather than miss out on the chance to bring in an already-paid Haney, no team will offer a 4th or 5th round pick? You know that would constitute a trade right?

I would bet you a week's pay that Haney will not go to another team with nothing at all coming back to the Skins.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Compare (deactivated 4 games) Haynesworth stats this year with A Carter, A Carriker, and others and you will find Haynesworth's are just as good if not better. Point is you need players not good buch of guys who fit their guts out.

Posted by: edavis291 | December 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

No, Coughlin backed off and learned how to deal with players better.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, dcwun.

Albert is delusional if he thinks he should be able to dictate the terms of his employment.

At the very least he should have been able to act like a professional. Since he couldn't even do that, defending AH is tough and bordering on insanity.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

4) The Reskins are still in a pickle, because no one will trade for him, they will have to release him. He can get picked up by any other team.

Posted by: glennrc | December 7, 2010 2:00 PM |

So you're saying that rather than miss out on the chance to bring in an already-paid Haney, no team will offer a 4th or 5th round pick? You know that would constitute a trade right?

I would bet you a week's pay that Haney will not go to another team with nothing at all coming back to the Skins.

Although, I don't need a few hundred bucks.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

the Skins are in shambles, what else can go wrong? we are an embarrassment to the nfl

...and the eagles have still never won a super bowl


i think we are better off now as an organization and where we are going than we were 365 days ago

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 7, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

>>The Shanahan regime reminds me of the Schottenheimer one.

Well, Marty's team finished 8-3 after an 0-5 start, including 5 straight wins after the 0-5 start. He also had the sense to focus on the run, giving the ball like crazy to Stephen Davis.

I agree Mike and Marty each have egos the size of Mount Rushmore, and each had to deal with a total head-case (WR Michael Westbrook in Schottenheimer's case). At least Schottenheimer eventually got his team to play like a winner. Who knows? Maybe if he'd gotten more than one season, Marty S. might've turned the ship around.

Posted by: blackjack65 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM

Again, yes, I should have said I was referring to the first part of the Schottenheimer season. What I was getting at was that there needs to be balance between being a hardass and being fun to play for. That was Marty in the second part of that season. That was Gibbs. And as someone else pointed out, that was Coughlin.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

ham sandwich was never worth much anyway.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | December 7, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse


I hate this S!!!!!
This 'team' needs to be completely destroyed. From Cooley to London.
I heard Cooley on the radio yesterday and there's no doubt he's upset about the losses but he like many other Skins seem content with losing. No team leadership, no team accountability, nothing that shows a desire to win. To me it seems like guys come here get paid and comfortable, other guys on the team get jealous hence no comradery.
If I was a FA and didn't give a F about winning, DC would be the first place on my list. Which is what seemed to have happened during the last 10 years.
If I wanted to play football to win and compete while getting paid, I would definitely cross the Washington Redskins off my list.
The Skins can best be decribed by what Mike Singletary said: "Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win.”

Posted by: priceisright | December 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Problem is...this virtually assures that we will be giving up 200 yards on the ground every week for the rest of the season.

It just keeps getting better.

Posted by: edvar | December 7, 2010 1:47 PM |

Dude - you may have missed it, but the season was over by the end of the 1st half on Sunday.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The "Boil" has finally been "Lanced." Now the body can heal.

Posted by: doughboy96 | December 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The redskins are a classless organization. Not for suspending Albert but for bring him here in the first place. They continue to make the same mistakes they did 10 years ago and have lost my support.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | December 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

z, shhhhhhh....no bites yet...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 7, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and Allen faults

1. NOT WINNING!

2. NOT BRING BACK WILLIE PARKER OR LARRY JOHNSON WHOM YOU HAD IN OTA AND PRESEASON

3. REALEASING DEVIN THOMAS

4. PUTTING M. KELLY ON IR

5. HOLDING A ROSTER SPOT FOR JOEY GALLOWAY AND THEN RELEASING HIM.. " TNX FOR THE 1 BIG CATCH BUT WHAT A WASTE"

6. NOT FIRING DEFENSE OF COORINATOR JIM HASLETT.

7. CHANGING THE O-LINE TO DAMN MUCH!!!

8. FOR NOT PLAYING AH UNTIL HE PUKE!!

9. TRADING SOME OF OUR PICKS AWAY.

10. TRADING FOR MCNABB

10. NOT WINNING!

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 7, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

the Skins are in shambles, what else can go wrong? we are an embarrassment to the nfl

...and the eagles have still never won a super bowl


i think we are better off now as an organization and where we are going than we were 365 days ago

Posted by: retroskins14 | December 7, 2010 2:11 PM |

Agreed. And Elway never won a Super Bowl without Shanny.

Am I wrong?

(hint: no)

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

So trade wise, is this worse the Adam Archuletta? Jason Taylor? Deon?

Posted by: glennrc

Yes, this is worse than the Celine Dion deal.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

So Big Al has refused to do as the coaches have asked all season and they wait until Week 13 to suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 7, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

A good coach would have found a way to get this man on the field regularly to take his fustrations out on the opponent.

SHANAHAN SUCKS!

Posted by: keedrow | December 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

----

Last I saw, as long as Albert has two working legs, he can drag his butt out onto the field and play.

He's a grown man. It's HIS decision to be a baby about the defense, and it was HIS decision to take the money when they gave him the option to leave it and go someplace else.

Stop whining about a coach doing his job and establishing a culture of accountibility.

Actually, this all reminds me of Schotty when he started 0-5, and that worthless sack of a team was laying down rather than playing for him because his practices were "too hard" and he was actually trying to coach players. Fans whined he should be fired...then that same season, when players started to buy in, the Skins finished 8-3...and those fans cried when he was let go over Personnel power issues.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 7, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and Allen faults

1. NOT WINNING!

2. NOT BRING BACK WILLIE PARKER OR LARRY JOHNSON WHOM YOU HAD IN OTA AND PRESEASON

3. RELEASING DEVIN THOMAS

4. PUTTING M. KELLY ON IR

5. HOLDING A ROSTER SPOT FOR JOEY GALLOWAY AND THEN RELEASING HIM.. " TNX FOR THE 1 BIG CATCH BUT WHAT A WASTE"

6. NOT FIRING DEFENSE OF COORINATOR JIM HASLETT.

7. CHANGING THE O-LINE TO DAMN MUCH!!!

8. FOR NOT PLAYING AH UNTIL HE PUKE!!

9. TRADING SOME OF OUR PICKS AWAY.

10. TRADING FOR MCNABB

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 7, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse


Redskins turn to a familiar face, bring back Antonio Pierce
December 7, 2010
Michael Florio

In the wake of suspending Albert Haynesworth, thus creating a roster space, the Washington Redskins have brought back Antonio Pierce. More details to follow, but we're hearing that Pierce has stayed in shape, and is looking to make a comeback for the 2011 season as well. Stay tuned.

Wow....just wow...from pft...yikes...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

priceless

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 7, 2010 2:07 PM |

More like very very tired one trick pony.

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 7, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I have to saw that increasingly, I'm coming to this very same conclusion.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 7, 2010

Wow! Even the heavyweight bloggas are crossing over to the Dark Side.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

So Big Al has refused to do as the coaches have asked all season and they wait until Week 13 to suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 7, 2010 2:18 PM |

A team cannot "Keyshawn" a player with more than 4 weeks left in a season. So yeah, they had to wait to take this course of action.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Most of all, I'll miss the laughter. In particular, my laughter at the Redskins overpaying another free-agent. Since Dan Snyder says that this time he really really means it when he says he's going to rebuild the right way, I probably won't get another chance*.

*RedskinsOne is already fueled up for that first day of free agency, isn't it?

Posted by: cao091402 | December 7, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse


it's all snyder's falt, he does the hiring and firing. you want a winning team, so do I. it will never happen with snyder in ownership of the team.

same as it ever was, same as it ever was

Posted by: hessone | December 7, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ham sandwich was never worth much anyway.

Posted by: 44fx2901


I don't know who's making you ham sandwiches but you ain't living until you had a ham on wheat with lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, and mustard.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 7, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The HMS Titanic aka,Redskins must be running out of deck chairs!

Posted by: skbarrow | December 7, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Okay then who else will they suspened without pay,Defensive coordinator,Offensive coordinator,HEAD COACH!!!!!

Posted by: theturfman | December 7, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's be real here and stop the nonsense! Many do not like Haynesworth because is is a young man making good money. And many players like Daniels are hating on him cause Albert got in two years what Daniels haven't made in his entire career. Stop hating Haynesworth for being smart! If Snyder came to offer any of us that kind of money, everybody would take it! Why not Albert? So now he is the cancer of the team made to look like he's the cause of all of the problems this team has. News flash. This dismal organization goes back 20 years of subpar teams. So Shanahan and Allen can stop w/ the finger pointing. Those two are being two Vinnies! Hell, I would rather have Vinny now! Shanahan looks so lost out there at times it's sad! I love Gibbs. But in his 2nd venture he looked lost as well! So now they pull a cheap shot and go after Albert's money that Danny gave him all because he didn't come running to kiss Shanahan's bottom like the rest on day one! And many say play where they tell you. How about telling Brett Favre that. Or Peyton, Dion Sanders, Brady, Driver, Trent Williams, Ray Lewis, and a host of others. Why not? Because they are dominate where they play now! You can't put these guys out of their element and think they are gonna fit right in. It doesn't work that way. Can you see Labron James being paid a $billion and told he has to play center? Or course not. Haynesworth knows his strength, but the Skins won't use him to it! They needed an outlet to take the focus off how sorry this team is and used Haynesworth to do it once the playoffs were out of the picture! Shanny and Allen had to do something to make them look good! And we the fans are suppose to continue to root for this crap? If I'ma CB don't move me to LB! And tell me I'm suppose to not voice my opinion! What happens I get broke up in the mix w/ the OL, etc down after down? This is just another blackeye for this organization and embarrassment to its fanbase. Nobody there cares though. If they did, they would come out and make a public apology like Jerry Jones did to his fans for poor play and make changes. Danny hasn't done that in 20 years! Where are the public apologies from the players? But come spring time their all be downtown to some celebrity event shaking their tailfeather moving around like they the president. Get real fans! Stop supporting this crap until we get better on the field. Quite frankly speaking, I DESERVE BETTER THEN THIS AND HAVE FOR OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS! Amazing! Year in/out same script and nothing changes! And now Haynesworth is to take the blame for why a defense is getting blown all over the field again the Giants, Eagles, and others. Or why Santana Moss can't catch a cold now! Or why McNabb is fumbling when he could've run for the 1st down. Or why Stephen Heyer continues to jump offside! Or why Shanny wants to challenge a play that his son ran out on the field to pick up the red flag! Or my Danny ruined this team from day one! Bigger fish to fry!

Posted by: hoganincharge | December 7, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

yo mattsound not to trying to be an *ss but Fat Albert is a snyder screw up.

Posted by: xpac69 | December 7, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Stop whining about a coach doing his job and establishing a culture of accountibility.

You're assuming the coach is being honest about what's happening.

Do you believe Haynesworth was out with a "headache" ealier in the year?

Do you believe McNabb's problem with the 2 minute drill was "cardiovascular endurance"?

Do you believe McNabb didn't get enough reps in the 2 minute drill during practice?


I don't assume Shanahan is telling the whole truth here, because he's proven that when he's unhappy with a player, anything can come out of his mouth.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 7, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

The HMS Titanic aka,Redskins must be running out of deck chairs!

Posted by: skbarrow


bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing...

Posted by: RedDMV | December 7, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who think this is a good thing your STUPID ohyeah were 5-7 lets blame it on the haynesworth saga ehhhhh wrong ugh make me upset to be a fan cause this guy is ruining the team damn shanahan

Posted by: mhudson27 | December 7, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Stop whining about a coach doing his job and establishing a culture of accountibility.


You're assuming the coach is being honest about what's happening.

Do you believe Haynesworth was out with a "headache" ealier in the year?

Do you believe McNabb's problem with the 2 minute drill was "cardiovascular endurance"?

Do you believe McNabb didn't get enough reps in the 2 minute drill during practice?


I don't assume Shanahan is telling the whole truth here, because he's proven that when he's unhappy with a player, anything can come out of his mouth.


Posted by: Alan4

That's it Alan, but some don't want to hear that. Nobody's saying AH is without fault but Shannny's record dealing with the other issues. It took the McNabb incident for some to finally see through it.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Actually, this all reminds me of Schotty when he started 0-5, and that worthless sack of a team was laying down rather than playing for him because his practices were "too hard" and he was actually trying to coach players. Fans whined he should be fired...then that same season, when players started to buy in, the Skins finished 8-3...and those fans cried when he was let go over Personnel power issues.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 7, 2010 2:18 PM |

His AH was LA. And WaPo gives the dud a byline for Crissakes. Just like AH will prob get another shot somewhere and pull a Brandon Lloyd. Is it too late to try and get some of his bonus money back?

Posted by: EncinoMan | December 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

There's no other way this could have gone. Shanahan wants to change the culture of this team, a team that has gone after over-hyped stars, overpaid them, and then let then do as they wished. When Shanahan got here, Fat Albert was the shinning example of poor front office decision making. Shanahan wants accountable, hungry, coachable players. AH is none of those things. So the coach knows there's no changing the team until you do something about Haynesworth. So he tells him to fall in line. It worked for Portis, but it didn't work for Al. That was the start; this is the end. It wasn't pretty and it could have been handled better, or at least sooner, but it had to end this way. If it ends with Shanahan compromising with Haynesworth, the culture of the team never changes and the sucking continues.

Posted by: mack1 | December 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

well said, mhudson, well said. another home-run for you.

Posted by: funkey | December 7, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan and Allen faults

1. NOT WINNING!

2. NOT BRING BACK WILLIE PARKER OR LARRY JOHNSON WHOM YOU HAD IN OTA AND PRESEASON

3. RELEASING DEVIN THOMAS

4. PUTTING M. KELLY ON IR

5. HOLDING A ROSTER SPOT FOR JOEY GALLOWAY AND THEN RELEASING HIM.. " TNX FOR THE 1 BIG CATCH BUT WHAT A WASTE"

6. NOT FIRING DEFENSE OF COORINATOR JIM HASLETT.

7. CHANGING THE O-LINE TO DAMN MUCH!!!

8. FOR NOT PLAYING AH UNTIL HE PUKE!!

9. TRADING SOME OF OUR PICKS AWAY.

10. TRADING FOR MCNABB

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 7, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I think the only one I agree with is 5, Galloway was a waste, but the rest can be explained:

1. You can't blame a first year coach for not winning, Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0 didn't win in the first years.

2. Parker and Johnson are has beens. They were willing to bring them back and see what they had left, which was obviously nothing.

3. Thomas is a joke, he deserved to be released. It was a fluke he blocked that punt, don't go thinking he's going to turn into some superstar now!

4. Kelley on IR was interesting, but they obviously saw something they liked, and it's not like it cost us a roster spot, no big deal.

6. Haslett had crappy players to work with, he deserves another chance with a couple more pieces added to this 3-4.

7. The Oline had to be changed, the blame should be on Cerrato and Co., they did what they could with this unit.

8. They tride playing him, but if the dude doesn't know the defense and isn't in shape, then he shouldn't play, that would send a bad message to all the players.

9. We did trade away a couple picks, but we got McNabb, who should be better in his second year in this offense and with some better players around him, and Jamal Brown, who should be completely healed by next year. I'm not willing to give up on them yet.

10. See #9.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

If you popped Mike Shanahan into a time machine to 1970, would he deactivate Sonny Jurgensen for being hung over?

How about 1982? Deactivate Riggo for being hung over?

I think AH has a lot of personal issues, and he certainly hasn't performed consistently here, but the "hangover story" seems like the product of the PR department in Ashburn to me.

I also have a real problem with he timing of this, 13 games into the season? It's almost as if Shanny is loooking for a goat (and admittedly, AH helps make himself a goat often) to take the spotlight off the absolutely horrific play from this team over the past few weeks.

Some of the players look like they've quit.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

About freakin time! Fat Albert is a no talent waste of space that should've been fired before the season started. Any team that signs this miserable excuse for a football player should have their heads examined.

Posted by: EdgarFriendly | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

PF...

I know you have no idea how the NFL works (I'm referencing nearly everything you post, one example being that you did not even know that there is a trade deadline).

But humor me. Please explain to me how an hour ago you were spewing off about the team going after Al's bonus, contract 'outs', and how the NFLPA will not support him, yet now you have seemingly reversed course entirely and are saying the team will keep him until they trade him for something.

Even someone as dense as you should understand that both scenarios are not possible.

In order to trade him, he must be contractually obligated to the team.

If they take his money or exercise a contract out, then he would not be under contract anymore. And they would not be able to trade him.

Does this make sense?

Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

I'll anxiously await yet another backtracking, double speak excuse about how you never meant what you said earlier, but you're just so smart that I misunderstood you.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I'll wager that the folks taking shots at Shanahan over this have never coached or been around coaching.

My dad coached football and basketball from before I was born up until about 8 years ago, so I grew up around coaches. I've seen good coaches and bad coaches up close, and have seen how they've handled various circumstances.

Shanahan has handled this in the right way. If you're trying to build a culture of accountability, you cannot make exceptions.

Some of the more ignorant fans don't care about any of that stuff as long as you can win games. Trouble is, minus accountability and the camaraderie it fosters, when adversity strikes there is nothing to fall back on, and things fall apart.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Here is where Haynesworth was on that ill-fated Thursday night. Special thanks to The Edge:

http://theedge1059.com/Blog.asp?id=38037

Posted by: mjsciann1 | December 7, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I also believe that the skins will get nothing back from Haynesworth. Their decision and arguments on the surface seem oftly weak.

Afterall they can't even get an instant replay call correct.

Their decision-making on all fronts normally stinks.

The Haynesworth trade
Ruining Portis' career trying to make him a power back
The trade for McNabb
The thinking that Cooley is an all pro TE

The skins are the type of dumb organization that WOULD bring back Antonio Pierce next year after being released by the Giants.

They constantly make horrible personnel decisions and I expect it to continue.

Posted by: keedrow | December 7, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's be real here and stop the nonsense! Many do not like Haynesworth because is is a young man making good money.

Posted by: hoganincharge | December 7, 2010 2:24 PM |

One need go no further than the end of the above sentence to realize you have literally no chance of making any case when you characterize Haney like that.

I can tell all I need to know about you personally and professionally from that one sentence.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if he were suspended if they were 9-3. Just a thought.

Posted by: morrisday1 | December 7, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

That should have read "13 weeks" into the season, not 13 games... Still, this is long overdue, they should have gotten rid of the dude in August.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Great post, and I agree 100%

Days like today bring out the worst in our fan base. This should be a galvanizing thing

(And it will be in the locker room...where it matters).

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 7, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:20 PM

Not true. The problems in other cases is that they brought the hammer down on the "first" offense. Have you heard of progressive discipline? Why wasn't that used? Plus they had other options real man of genius. They could have traded him and got something for him however minuscule.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 7, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that is concerned about AH going to an NFC East team can relax. It ain't gonna happen.

Philly: Andy Reid has dealt with the King of Malcontentland, TO. I don't see him diving back into that realm for a guy who plays 30 snaps per game, when motivated.

NYG: No way, no how Coughlin allows AH onto the Giants. Furthermore, they have a plethora of defensive lineman and have no need for him.

Dallas: Although the thought of JJ making a "splash" is not unheard of, AH would be right back in a 3-4, which he does not want to play. So that's not happening either.

There are 2 likely destinations for that sack, Tennessee or Oakland. I just don't see many other teams getting into the AH business.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | December 7, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'll wager that the folks taking shots at Shanahan over this have never coached or been around coaching.

My dad coached football and basketball from before I was born up until about 8 years ago, so I grew up around coaches. I've seen good coaches and bad coaches up close, and have seen how they've handled various circumstances.

Shanahan has handled this in the right way. If you're trying to build a culture of accountability, you cannot make exceptions.

Some of the more ignorant fans don't care about any of that stuff as long as you can win games. Trouble is, minus accountability and the camaraderie it fosters, when adversity strikes there is nothing to fall back on, and things fall apart.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM |

Fu*k post of the day, this is the post of the century.

Thanks Dude!

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This is why Courtney Milloy is right that we need to change the racist name of the Washington Redskins to the DC Bros: now our players -- highly over paid/subsidized ones who think it's government check day after the 1st -- are living up to Snyder's racist name for his team by being drunk shortly after the beginning of the month, unable to do anything for days other than drive their pick-up trucks around the reservation.

Posted by: nickthimmeschearthlinknet | December 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The problem with championing "accountability" is that you have to have it before you can expect it from others.

The fact is, Shanny dropped several notches for me after the Detriot game. He lost his credibility in a cornucopia of lies, each one more fantastic and unbelivable than the last.

His only hope of recapturing my respect is by winning.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

AH was never given a fair chance to be the best DL he could have been. The man is a beast, a force, a wrecking machine and you people never appreciated that. I hope that Mr. Snyder would take the team to L.A. you fickle fan don't know no better. AH will go onto to become be best ever at his position with an NFC foe, mark my werds! Please Mr. Snyder take this team away from here to greener pastures...

Posted by: Incognito00 | December 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

6. Haslett had crappy players to work with, he deserves another chance with a couple more pieces added to this 3-4.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 2:33

Crappy Players? You mean the players that were in a top 10 defense for a few years? You mean a team with 4 recent PB players and an emerging star in LL? Not buying it. If you don't have the players then don't run it.

The bottom line is to win games and use the talent that you have in the best way possible.

The last time I heard this talk, Spurrier booted Steven Davis for Trung Candidate because he "fit the scheme better."

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with the money at issue, which is most likely chump change by NFL standards (four game checks + maybe clawing back a little bonus money). This is about getting AH out of the locker room for good.

Shanahan has clearly concluded that AH is a cancer than he can't afford to deal with anymore and still maintain tight control over the team.

In hindsight, the Redskins obviously should have accepted that fourth round pick from the Titans for AH, but then hindsight also says the Skins should never have signed the idiot to begin with. I would take this as a sign that Shanahan has finally accepted the rebuilding nature of his assignment. "The future is now" meant keeping a talented malcontent like AH. Rebuilding the team means jettisoning the baggage at the first opportunity (like, now.)

Posted by: acoberst1 | December 7, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

May I suggest the NFL award an expansion franchise to Los Angeles, and offer it to Mr. Snyder in exchange for the Redskins, who could then could be sold to new ownership. Snyder can hang with Tom Cruise and all that. He loves that stuff.

Another alternative from when the Colts left Baltimore. Get the Maryland Legislature to begin proceedings to take the team via Eminent Domain. Snyder will get wind of this, and bolt for L.A., Mayflower vans and all.

Then, the owner of the Jaguars can move his team here.

I am sure there are other formulations. But this is not impossible.

It is the only way.

Posted by: PostWebReader | December 7, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Even the heavyweight bloggas are crossing over to the Dark Side.

There is no Dark or Light Side.

Just what's Right and Wrong.

Both Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan had to have known the low depth of Albert Haynesworth's character prior to deciding if he should be the center of the 3-4 defense dreams.

There were trade offers before they handed him $21 million and early on this season that they ignored.

The made a professional decision that has gone terribly wrong: and there's a tight constellation of other mistakes swirling about it.

Their idea had to be to 'win-now' with a mix of vets featuring Donovan McNabb, Clinton Portis, and Albert Haynesworth.

Now, Team Shanallen stands as the authors of an NFL comedy that has to have folks giggling all up and down the Atlantic Seaboard.

You thought Zorn and Vinny were bad?: this situation takes more than a bakery full of cakes.

Proud redskin vets like L Fletcher and P Daniels and C Rabach and Santana Moss have to be thinking, "How did we wind up here?"

"When the plan with Shanahan was to be in a much, much better place?"

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 7, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

the fans are getting what they deserve. they root for any maggot in a uniform and don't know jack about football. snyder knows this and the suckers get tea bagged every year and a last place trophy.

Posted by: doyouktt | December 7, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

It was the right move...BUT
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We all know...he will have 18 sacks, 2 pick sixes, block a punt and knock McNabb out of the game when he playes for the Eagles next year.

You heard it here first!

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I didn't realize that the Eagles will be playing the Cardinals next year.

Posted by: slackh2o | December 7, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I seen this man push another lineman into the QB for a sack, that type of talent you don't upset!

The Union is not going to stand for this he will get his money.

Shanahan is a bust always was!
If not for Elway (and others) he'd been out of the league years ago.

As long as SNYDER is the OWNER, THE SKINS WILL NEVER WIN!

Also if you Stupid fans keep attending the games he will keep putting out subpar teams. So keep coming to the Fedex spending your CASH and SNYDER WILL KEEP TAKING IT. I believe the word i'm looking for is SUCKERS!

Posted by: shamken | December 7, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Perfect solution! I'll bet the coaches and Redskins have been documenting every instance of contractual non-compliance.

Cutting this pc of crap would reward his behavior by letting him sign on to a playoff team (Tampa Bay?). Suspension lets him rot for the rest of the season while the union pisses and moans about how unfair hold Haynesworth accountable and treat this non-professional no load lying thief for what he is.

Most of us have to do what our employers want and listen to the boss if we want to collect a paycheck. No one gets to do what the want unless they own the company.

His next chance to prove he is more than talk will be to attend OTA's, work like a dog in training camp, and otherwise convince the coaches on his next team he will do what he supposed to on every play and won't be taking plays off to suck oxygen or take a belly nap on the field.

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | December 7, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

This idiocy that is called the 3-4 defense is half of the Skins problems. Shanahan claimed that they would increase the takeaways by going to the 3-4.

Unfortunately, when the ball ends up in the end zone for an opponent’s TD or a FG on every defensive possession, what difference does the takeaway ratio make?

With no offense last year, Greg Blatche’s 4-3 defense was 8th in the NFL.

With no offense this year, Jim Haslett’s 3-4 defense is last in the NFL.

The only change with this defense is that they can get wide to stop sweeps (if they remember to wrap up when they tackle.)

So, every NFL offensive coordinator smart enough to remember to zip his pants 75% of the time after using the bathroom either runs between tackles for mucho yds., or throws in front of the Skins CBs.

Instead of improving the DBs, Shanahan junks a reasonable good defense & foists this abortion on us. The defense stops absolutely nothing, including a slow moving beach ball.

Fat Albert is not a sympathetic character, by any stretch of the imagination. He is selfish individual who is probably has a borderline personality issue (only a layman’s opinion). However, I can’t blame for not wanting to play NT. He doesn’t have the skills nor the mindset for the position. Everyone in the NFL knew this and laughed at Shanahan when he thought that AH would be an effective NT.

If AH weighs no more than 330 lbs. he is a very good DT in the 4-3. The havoc that he can wreak on an offense has to be seen to be believed.

Keep AH, get rid of Snyder and his evil but ineffective satraps, the Shanahans & Haslett. If you want to run AH out of town on a rail as well, fine, but you probably would need a old train rail to hold up AH on his trip up Wisconsin Ave. into Bethesda.

Watching the Skins offense is about as pleasant as observing a body cavity search at the jail. It is putrid and unsettling, and the sooner that you can go somewhere else, the better.

When Shanahan had his merry go round of NFL has-beens RBs in camp, I began to have doubts as to what he really knew about offensive football. Adding Galloway did nothing to help.

Although the offensive injuries help to excuse the Shanahans of that side of the ball, the offense was no great shakes when everyone was healthy. These injuries show that the planning for depth was nonexistant.

The Skins need discipline, but they also need intelligence in the owner’s box and among the coaches & management.

Obviously, this proud old franchise is presently devoid of all of the above.

Posted by: FormerBullisBulldog | December 7, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Too much money upfront will corrupt a person. It would have been nice for him to be great but not every body can do it!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 7, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Too much money upfront will corrupt a person. It would have been nice for him to be great but not every body can do it!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Too much money upfront will corrupt a person. It would have been nice for him to be great but not every body can do it!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | December 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting fed up with all you retarded, never-been's who don't understand the word accountability one bit and probably never got any love from their broke ass parents and were fed fast food and watched cartoons deep into their twenties.

IF...you desire a culture of accountability, it's not that you don't play Haney....YOU CAN'T PLAY HANEY. Think of the flipside:

Haney is a thieving a-hole Monday through Saturday....you still go and play him on Sunday?

ARE YOU F U C K I N G RETARDED?


You can't play the a-hole or else the rest of the team will know there's no one steering the boat.

The Redskins were heroine addicts for the last 10 years plus. You don't just get through that in one off-season.

Withdrawls are painful and ugly.

Welcome to the Redskins' withdrawls.


This organization just moved one notch up on the 'respect' meter today.

Rejoice biotches.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Diehard Redskin Fan for LIFE

Now that the focus if going to be off Haynesworth soon!!!

What is Kyle Shanahan & Jim Haslett doing??? Let's look at SUSPENDING them!

The responsibilty is on the coaches, they are supposed to make sure the players are ready and I do not see that!

I SAW BAD PLAY CALLING, DROPPED BALLS, MISSED TACKLES, BLOWN COVERAGE,
NO RUNNING GAME. We can barely do the basics anymore.

I want to see a better Team or those Coaches FIRED!!!!!!!

Posted by: webtech46 | December 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The amount of fair weather fans posting is pathetic. Skins have been down for a while (over a decade), we all should be used to it, and so have some faith in ShanAllen to get "their guys" next season and retool this program. Rebuilding doesn't happen overnight, but I guess a fair weather fan wouldn't realize that as they NEED instant gratification. Go root for another team, we don't want you!

Posted by: skins10 | December 7, 2010 1:19 PM |
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Agreed!

Posted by: tryumpfant | December 7, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but the Shanny haters have it wrong. He would have lost control of the team if he let AH92 get away with his nonsense. Shanny laid down the law. Good for him. I have my nits to pick with Shanny -- like sitting #5 in the Lions game -- but not on this move. And for those who say he can't deal with talented players -- he sure managed to get along with Elway, right? I like that he seems to be willing to play players who play hard and with the right attitude regardless of where they were drafted. In the long run that will build a better team.

Posted by: manlius1 | December 7, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

MIKE SHANNY SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FOR THE LAST 4 GAMES BECAUSE HE CREATED THIS MESS OF A TEAM THAT IS THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.

MCBADD? WHAT A JOKE.
GALLOWAY FOR THOMAS? WOW.
NO ESTABLISHED RUNNING BACK.
THE DOCKERY BENCHING AND NOW YOU THROW HIM TO THE FIRE AFTER THE REVOLVING DOOR AT OLINE.
4-3 TOP TEN DEFENSE TO A 3-4 32ND IN THE LEAGUE DEFENSE.

GET SHANNY OUTTA HERE!!!

Posted by: noodlez | December 7, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Perfect solution! I'll bet the coaches and Redskins have been documenting every instance of contractual non-compliance.

Cutting this pc of crap would reward his behavior by letting him sign on to a playoff team (Tampa Bay?). Suspension lets him rot for the rest of the season while the union pisses and moans about how unfair hold Haynesworth accountable and treat this non-professional no load lying thief for what he is.

Most of us have to do what our employers want and listen to the boss if we want to collect a paycheck. No one gets to do what the want unless they own the company.

His next chance to prove he is more than talk will be to attend OTA's, work like a dog in training camp, and otherwise convince the coaches on his next team he will do what he supposed to on every play and won't be taking plays off to suck oxygen or take a belly nap on the field.

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | December 7, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

For those fools out there who think we can drive up Fat Als trade value by playing him are just plain stupid!

Every team in the league knows what the guys on the field ability is, but that's not the issue! He has zero trade value. ZERO. They shopped him already and any team could have gotten him for three seasons at little over 3 mil per. No team wants this guy. They know he is a total head case and will never buy into a team concept. He didn't even do that with the Titans in system he supposedly was happy with. The man is simply an overgrown 5yr old child mentally. A spoiled brat who throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way. The man is the biggest piece of garbage to ever wear a Redskin Uniform.

Posted by: skins91r | December 7, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Let start from the begining, Haynesworth then Horton, then Edwin Williams, then Devin, then Dockery, then McNabb,and Haynesworth again all black players that Mike have mess with; plus putting sorry Rabach, Lichtensteiger, Galloway and Williams and Doughty in the game. Is the coach playin favorites? The coach don't know what the F he is doing. Denver went to the superbowl before he got there just didn't win it. He inherited a good team. He need to go and back and play John Madden before F**ing up this team too. You suppose to evaluate you players and then make the right decision on what fit you team best.
Now for the defence Cord. If you don't have the personnal to play a 3 4 defence, you have to play to the strength. He turned a 10th rank defence to a last rank defence. Is he scared of Mike or just being b*t*h? I don't know who is making the personnal decision, but they are lacking a good eye for skill.

Posted by: jfrost8171 | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Good job Shanny. Way to shift focus.
Maybe this will take peeps minds off the embarrassing shellacking the Skins just got handed by the Giants a mere couple weeks after the buttwhipping they took on Monday night.
Someone somewhere owes Zorn an apology.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

It took the Skins a year and a half to quit on Zorn. From the looks of things, the team quit on Shanny after 8 games. If Josh McDaniels is truly a Belichik desciple, he'll blow-up with his 2nd team. Do it Snyder! Get rid of Shanny! Hire McDaniels! Championship!

Posted by: coparker5 | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Let start from the begining, Haynesworth then Horton, then Edwin Williams, then Devin, then Dockery, then McNabb,and Haynesworth again all black players that Mike have mess with; plus putting sorry Rabach, Lichtensteiger, Galloway and Williams and Doughty in the game. Is the coach playin favorites? The coach don't know what the F he is doing. Denver went to the superbowl before he got there just didn't win it. He inherited a good team. He need to go and back and play John Madden before F**ing up this team too. You suppose to evaluate you players and then make the right decision on what fit you team best.
Now for the defence Cord. If you don't have the personnal to play a 3 4 defence, you have to play to the strength. He turned a 10th rank defence to a last rank defence. Is he scared of Mike or just being b*t*h? I don't know who is making the personnal decision, but they are lacking a good eye for skill.

Posted by: jfrost8171 | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Where do all these people who are unquestioning supporters of Haynesworth and advocating a new coaching staff after less than a year of the current one keep emerging from?

I have an image of featureless factory bred drones, incapable of speech or coherent thought, but connected up to an e-mail system. When an electrical impulse is applied, sparked by some key words in RI posts perhaps, the drone then sends out a responding electrical pulse that results in a formulaic rant about how Haynesworth is the greatest player in the NFL (other than DT of course), everything would be OK with him playing and Shanny is destroying the team with his ego.

WTF?

They say they are prepared to give some time to Shanahan to see if he can turn the team around but then say they are disappointed by the incredibly short term results.
They say, after two years of Zorn letting the players (or Snyder letting the players) do in effect whatever they liked, that they wanted a coach to come in and instill discipline but when one does it they complain he is destroying the team with his ego.
They say they understand that we need some stability, but then turn around and say they want to fire the current coaching staff and front office after 12 games.

Is this fickleness, memory problems or just learning difficulties?

Posted by: craig81 | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I saw this man push another player back into the QB for a sack.
That type of talent does not come by everyday!

The union will get AH his money the team is just stupid.

Shanahan is a bust always was!
Elway was the man and others but Shanahan got the credit haven't one a bowl since.

STUPID FANS AS LONG AS YOU SPEND WITH SNYDER HE WILL CONTINUE TO PUT OUT SUBPAR TEAMS.
BOYCOTT THE FINAL GAMES WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE.

Posted by: shamken | December 7, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....from day one, it's never been about what's best for the redskins. Shanny's focus has been on sticking it to haynesworth since he didn't show up to OTAs. The "best interest of the skins" has become secondary this year and it showed in their coaching and play. Now that AH is gone, who's next for shanny's doghouse.....Buchanon, Dockery, Hicks. Shanny has to have someone to focus on because it’s not about the skins, it’s about the fu^%*^% EGO.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | December 7, 2010 1:27 PM

During next year's training camp, when there is harmony in Ashburn, will you guys still be searching for evidence of, and bemoaning Shanahan's ego? He butted heads with Haynesworth because Haynesworth is a disaster and a cancer and he wasn't going to put up with it. I hope he does have an ego. No good coach is without one. His ego gets massaged by winning and you're going to be loving it when it's in full bloom and Haynesworth is but a memory.

Why have so many of you become so fatalistic? So worried Haynesworth is going to suddenly mature into a professional with pride and come back to bite us in the rear? I'm sure the Titans are still reeling from the lesson he taught them a few weeks ago. I hope he does end up on an NFC East team. It would be like planting a virus in the enemy camp because that's what Haynesworth is.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 7, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The ones calling for Shanny's head now would have also been calling for St. Joe's head after the first 6 games of his first tenure with the Redskins. #thinkaboutit

Posted by: manlius1 | December 7, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's be real here and stop the nonsense!
Many do not like Haynesworth because he is a young man making good money! And many players like Philip Daniels hating because Albert got in two years what Daniels haven't made in his entire career!
Stop hating Haynesworth for being smart! If Snyder offered any of us that kind of money, everybody on this post would take it! Why not Albert? So now he's the cancer of the team made to look like the cause of a terrible season.
News flash! This dismal performance goes back 20 years of sub par play. So Shanahan/Allen can stop w/ the finger pointing and/or excuses. Those two are becoming a combined Vinny! Hell, I would rather have Vinny now!
Shanahan looks so lost out there at times it's sad! I love Gibbs! But in his 2nd venture he was lost out there! So now they pull a cheap shot and go after Albert's money that Danny gave him!! All because he didn't come running to kiss Shanahan's bottom like the masses on day one?
And many say play where they tell you. How about telling Brett Favre that! Or Peyton, Dion Sanders, Tom Brady, Donald Driver, Trent Williams, Ray Lewis, Michael Vick, and a host of others. Why not? Because they are dominate where they play now! You can't take these guys out of their element and expect them to fit right in. It doesn't work that way!
Can you see Labron James being paid a $billion and told he has to play center? Or course not! Haynesworth knows his strength. But the Skins won't use him to it! They needed an outlet to take the focus off how sorry this team is year in/out and used Haynesworth to do!
Once the playoffs were out of the picture. Shanny/Allen had to do something to make them look good! Or make it look like they are cleaning house. THEY SHOULDA DONE THAT IN THE OFF SEASON W/ TENN!!
And we the fans are suppose to continue to root for this crap? This is just another black-eye for this organization and embarrassment to its fan base. Nobody there cares though. If they did, they would come out and make a public apology like Jerry Jones did to his fans for poor play and make changes. Danny hasn't done that in 20 years!
Where are the public apologies from the players? But come spring time many (Moss, Portis, etc) all will be downtown at some celebrity event shaking their tail-feather moving around like they the president. Get real fans! Stop supporting this crap until we get better play on the field! And quite frankly speaking, I DESERVE BETTER THEN THIS AND HAVE FOR OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS!Amazing! Year in/out same script and nothing changes! And now Haynesworth is to take the blame for why a defense is getting blown all over the field against the Giants, Eagles, and others? Or why Shanahan benches McNabb and puts in a incomplete Grossman? Or why Santana Moss can't catch a cold now? Or why McNabb is fumbling when he could've run for the 1st down? Or why Stephen Heyer continues to jump offside? Or why Shanny wants to challenge a play that his son picked up the flag on?!

Posted by: hoganincharge | December 7, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Perfect solution! I'll bet the coaches and Redskins have been documenting every instance of contractual non-compliance.

Cutting this pc of crap would reward his behavior by letting him sign on to a playoff team (Tampa Bay?). Suspension lets him rot for the rest of the season while the union pisses and moans about how unfair hold Haynesworth accountable and treat this non-professional no load lying thief for what he is.

Most of us have to do what our employers want and listen to the boss if we want to collect a paycheck. No one gets to do what the want unless they own the company.

His next chance to prove he is more than talk will be to attend OTA's, work like a dog in training camp, and otherwise convince the coaches on his next team he will do what he supposed to on every play and won't be taking plays off to suck oxygen or take a belly nap on the field.

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | December 7, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

6. Haslett had crappy players to work with, he deserves another chance with a couple more pieces added to this 3-4.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 2:33

Crappy Players? You mean the players that were in a top 10 defense for a few years? You mean a team with 4 recent PB players and an emerging star in LL? Not buying it. If you don't have the players then don't run it.

The bottom line is to win games and use the talent that you have in the best way possible.

The last time I heard this talk, Spurrier booted Steven Davis for Trung Candidate because he "fit the scheme better."

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Ok, wrong choice of words, I should have said crappy players for this scheme.

I understand they were a 'top 10 defense'! Where did that get us? NOWHERE!

Blache was a jellyfish that never took chances, I'm glad he's gone, and in a year or 2 when we finally have all of the pieces together of this 3-4 puzzle everyone else will be glad Haslett is here.

Landry is a beast and DHall is overachieving, other than that we need an overhaul. Orakpo needs to be put in better positions to make plays and he'll be fine.

The 3-4 can work, but we had to go through the growing pains of implementing the scheme this year. I would have liked to see some adjustments and setting up some players to make plays, but let's face it, it's kinda hard to stop the run without a dominant NT, and we can't get enough passrush with only 1 true rusher.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Also your Rodman example is wrong. Phil coached Rodman 3yrs. Rodman 5x NBA champion. Check his other awards, Phil did not make Rodman.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 7, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

nah just other stable organizations and coaches like Daly in Detroit and Popvich in SA; both know disciplinarians and champions.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | December 7, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Fans complain, that doesn't make them "fair-weather fans."

I have said time and again I am going to be patient as Shanahan tries to rebuild this mess. However, his explanation after the Detroit game was and is troubling. Why lie? Why keep changing the reason for benching McNabb?

I guarantee if Gibbs had benched McNabb (although it's hard to imagibe he would), he would have said the following: "Donovan fought his guts out for us but in that last two minutes I thought our team needed a spark, something to get us going."

And Gibbs would have STUCK to that explanation all week long, unlike Shanahan, who kept changing the story from hour to hour.

It isn't Shanahan's football knowledge I question. What I question is the character of a man who would openly lie like that, when there's really no need to. It's disturbing.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 7, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm ecstatic!

Fat Albert and his self serving, I don't care about anyone but myself attitude is gone! Good riddance!

This officially serves notice to all players on the team that the days of the inmates running the asylum are over (Cerratto/Snyder regime). This is no longer the place to come to get paid and then sit on your a$$ and do nothing. Players are now going to be held accountable and are not going to be able to go to Snyder's office to complain about the coach (can you hear me Deangelo?)

Could Shanahan have done a few things differently, maybe. However, Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan inherited this mess. Had they been around two years ago he would never have been a Redskin. Hail!

Posted by: hateisnotafamilyvalue | December 7, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Hoganincharge wrote:
" Many do not like Haynesworth because is is a young man making good money."

No. Many do not like Haynesworth because he is not giving his employer anywhere near the full effort that he is being paid to deliver. He's a malingerer, a slacker, a malcontent, a complainer, and an insubordinate source of disunity in an organization that demands teamwork.

I'm not denying that he can be one of the best and most feared defensive linemen in football. But his job is to do what his employer is paying him to do the way his boss wants him to do it. I haven't seen his contract, but I doubt that it provides for Haynesworth to decide the Redskins' defensive scheme and his role in it. Anyone would be fired for behaving on their jobs the way Haynesworth behaves on his.

I'm happy that Shananahan and Allen have found a way to stop paying him and to save 25% of of his salary. Going back to the preseason, there were reports that the Redskins would have an out from his guaranteed money if they could demonstrate that Haynesworth acted in a way that was detrimental to the team. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and do his job. He couldn't do that and now he's gone.

Good riddance.

Posted by: OldHickory14 | December 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Hoganincharge wrote:
" Many do not like Haynesworth because is is a young man making good money."

No. Many do not like Haynesworth because he is not giving his employer anywhere near the full effort that he is being paid to deliver. He's a malingerer, a slacker, a malcontent, a complainer, and an insubordinate source of disunity in an organization that demands teamwork.

I'm not denying that he can be one of the best and most feared defensive linemen in football. But his job is to do what his employer is paying him to do the way his boss wants him to do it. I haven't seen his contract, but I doubt that it provides for Haynesworth to decide the Redskins' defensive scheme and his role in it. Anyone would be fired for behaving on their jobs the way Haynesworth behaves on his.

I'm happy that Shananahan and Allen have found a way to stop paying him and to save 25% of of his salary. Going back to the preseason, there were reports that the Redskins would have an out from his guaranteed money if they could demonstrate that Haynesworth acted in a way that was detrimental to the team. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut and do his job. He couldn't do that and now he's gone.

Good riddance.

Posted by: OldHickory14 | December 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: culprit59 | December 7, 2010 2:06 PM

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Posted by: mack1 | December 7, 2010 2:31 PM

Two of the few sensible things said on here.

Posted by: kaasmaster | December 7, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"the fans are getting what they deserve. they root for any maggot in a uniform and don't know jack about football. snyder knows this and the suckers get tea bagged every year and a last place trophy.

Posted by: doyouktt"

Excellent post. Only fools believe Cerratto was anything more than a personal secretary and bag-man for Snyder. The malignant dwarf runs the entire organization, with obvious results.

Posted by: garrafa10 | December 7, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Good bye you F-A-P-O-S!

Posted by: Tobor58 | December 7, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Maybe some1 should suspend the offensive and defensive coordinators after the past few week's debacles.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | December 7, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

what AFC teams play a 4-3 defense?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 7, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

let's me tell you what this bickering is all about when shanahan said that he wanted to run the 3-4 defense and he wanted albert to play nose tackle and albert told him that he didn't have the pieces to run the 3-4 so albert hit a serious nerve there the only question remain is this if the redskins had the pieces to run the 3-4 defense was albert willing to play the nose as willingly as he declined in the first place.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | December 7, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

This isn't even controversial. If this were the military, Albert would be in Ft. Leavenworth and no one would care. Just another example of a cultural rift in professional sports.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 7, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Ok, wrong choice of words, I should have said crappy players for this scheme.

I understand they were a 'top 10 defense'! Where did that get us? NOWHERE!

Blache was a jellyfish that never took chances, I'm glad he's gone, and in a year or 2 when we finally have all of the pieces together of this 3-4 puzzle everyone else will be glad Haslett is here.

Landry is a beast and DHall is overachieving, other than that we need an overhaul. Orakpo needs to be put in better positions to make plays and he'll be fine.

The 3-4 can work, but we had to go through the growing pains of implementing the scheme this year. I would have liked to see some adjustments and setting up some players to make plays, but let's face it, it's kinda hard to stop the run without a dominant NT, and we can't get enough passrush with only 1 true rusher.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 3:00

That's it. Shanny was suppose to improve an offense that was lifeless to go along with a good defense. Better coaches and an upgrade at QB. What has that gotten us? Nothing. I guess my expectations of Shanny were unreasonable.

The offense is just as bad as it was last year, maybe worse. That falls on the shoulders of the genius.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Remember Shanahan said that during his time off he studied the NE Patriots and how they operated. WTF happened with that?

I watched NE last night. They looked like a well oiled machine. This after trading both Seymore and Moss. They even picked up a Wel Welker look alike from of all teams, the NYJ and he helped them stomp the jets.

Meanwhile the skins look like a machine that has run out of oil and the engine has locked up as a result.

Memo to coach: Unless you plan to pick up a Tom Brady-like QB you had better study the NYG, PH, & Dall and try to compete with them.

Posted by: keedrow | December 7, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of move that would not have happened the first ten years Snyder owned the team. This is a MAJOR step in the right direction and I APPLAUD it enthusiastically. The Redskin organization finally demonstrated that they have got a pair. This just convinced me to renew my season tickets. Bravo, Bruce and Mike, Bravo!

Posted by: blackandred777 | December 7, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: freakzilla | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM

Not to disrespect your post and/or father but unless he is coaching professionals you cannot compare the two. And you couldnt be more wrong in your assessment of Shanahan.

Shanahan has handled the Haynesworth situation terribly. He thought he was going to come in and break Albert to prove that he is the boss. When that didnt work he tried to use AH's fitness levels as an excuse for keeping him out of training camp when he reported 35lbs lighter than last season.

Shanahan deactivated AH because he took an extra day after his brother died. AH worked hard to get back into the good graces of his teammates and had been contributing, what did Shanahan do? Still kept AH in limited duty. His ego as well as his personnel decisions have hurt this team.

Good coaches like Parcells, Belichick and others know how to get the most out of their players, whether they are on the same page or not. There is a reason why Shanahan hasnt tasted meaningful success in this league in over a decade. Snyder like many of you get caught up in Shanahan's pedigree. The same foolishness that was going on when Cerrato was in charge is going on now. We still dont have a real GM who evaluates players, we still dont have a coach who is committed to rebuilding when its apparent that we need to and Shanahan is still bringing in past their prime players and wasting future draft picks. The suspension of Haynesworth is simply an attempt by Shanahan and Allen to deflect attention away from how the skins went from a potential playoff team to picking in the top 10 of the draft again.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 7, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Perfect solution! I'll bet the coaches and Redskins have been documenting every instance of contractual non-compliance.

Cutting this pc of crap would reward his behavior by letting him sign on to a playoff team (Tampa Bay?). Suspension lets him rot for the rest of the season while the union pisses and moans about how unfair hold Haynesworth accountable and treat this non-professional no load lying thief for what he is.

Most of us have to do what our employers want and listen to the boss if we want to collect a paycheck. No one gets to do what they want unless they own the company.

His next chance to prove he is more than talk will be to attend OTA's, work like a dog in training camp, and otherwise convince the coaches on his next team he will do what he supposed to on every play and won't be taking plays off to suck oxygen or take a belly nap on the field.

Posted by: mi-ti-bear | December 7, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

let's me tell you what this bickering is all about when shanahan said that he wanted to run the 3-4 defense and he wanted albert to play nose tackle and albert told him that he didn't have the pieces to run the 3-4 so albert hit a serious nerve there the only question remain is this if the redskins had the pieces to run the 3-4 defense was albert willing to play the nose as willingly as he declined in the first place.

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | December 7, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

Posted by: funkey | December 7, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in DC, and was a first hand witness to the greatness that was the Riggo/Gibbs era. From that, I formed the idea which I have held onto for the last ten or fifteen years; that The Redskins are a great franchise that is just in a rough patch.
I hate to say it, but over the last two years I have started to come to the realization that the Redskins are actually a mediocre to poor organization that had a few good years when I was a kid.
When my children were young I convinced one of them to be a Redskins fan, to provide me with cover so I could watch the games. Now I sit with her every Sunday and watch the heartbreak in her eyes as she slowly realizes what a bunch of loosers she has made an emotional investment in. I am hoping for a strike next year, because maybe a year away would be enough to get her to forget about the team. I feel like a bad parent to have introduced her to the misery of being a fan of this team, misery that I am sure will last as long as Snyder owns them. With that, I am done; with this post and as a fan.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in DC, and was a first hand witness to the greatness that was the Riggo/Gibbs era. From that, I formed the idea which I have held onto for the last ten or fifteen years; that The Redskins are a great franchise that is just in a rough patch.
I hate to say it, but over the last two years I have started to come to the realization that the Redskins are actually a mediocre to poor organization that had a few good years when I was a kid.
When my children were young I convinced one of them to be a Redskins fan, to provide me with cover so I could watch the games. Now I sit with her every Sunday and watch the heartbreak in her eyes as she slowly realizes what a bunch of loosers she has made an emotional investment in. I am hoping for a strike next year, because maybe a year away would be enough to get her to forget about the team. I feel like a bad parent to have introduced her to the misery of being a fan of this team, misery that I am sure will last as long as Snyder owns them. With that, I am done; with this post and as a fan.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

why so many double/triple/n-tier posts from the same users? stop re-posting the same things.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 7, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I must be in DC, where political spin and things happend daily to get ones mind off of something not going right.

Good job Dan and Bruce and Shanny for temporarily getting ones mind off of another losing season, for a losing team, and culture and organization ... that has won only 1971-1977 and 1982-1993 IN EIGHT DECADES OF PLAY.

Yeah, it was all Fat Al's fault. Sure, right. Just like last year, it was all Zorn and Jason's fault.

Posted by: morrisday1 | December 7, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Finally! Something positive from the Redskins!

Next McNabb goes.

Sell, Danny, sell!

Posted by: BigTrees | December 7, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

well played caps. hilarious!

Posted by: funkey | December 7, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

You must give a new coach three years. Patience folks. As for Haynesworth, he has no character. He took the money and retired. Good riddance.

Posted by: sportsfan2 | December 7, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

If he can be banned for conduct detrimental to the team then I would think Danny could be banned for all his conduct. Surely that has been more detrimental than Big Al.

Posted by: Gweez | December 7, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Horray! Go away Fat Al!

Posted by: ElSith | December 7, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Although I will be glad to see Mr. Haynesworth depart, I'm pretty certain that he will land on another team, and at some point in the near future, will have a career day against the Redskins.

Posted by: greggsol | December 7, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I feel like a bad parent to have introduced her to the misery of being a fan of this team, misery that I am sure will last as long as Snyder owns them. With that, I am done; with this post and as a fan.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 3:24 PM

You're not a bad parent to have introduced her to your favorite team. Teaching her to quit on them because they are down is a missed opportunity. Sticking with them now will make winning all the more sweet when it happens. Delayed gratification is a great life lesson. Oh well, at least she's learning the value of a well-paced hissy fit and dramatic exit.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 7, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Anybody ever consider that it's Snyders was of saying "Steal from me? I don't think so!"

Posted by: mriley0223 | December 7, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Can he be suspended for teh rest of his contract?

Posted by: mparrish03 | December 7, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

You're not a bad parent to have introduced her to your favorite team. Teaching her to quit on them because they are down is a missed opportunity. Sticking with them now will make winning all the more sweet when it happens. Delayed gratification is a great life lesson. Oh well, at least she's learning the value of a well-paced hissy fit and dramatic exit.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 7, 2010 3:54 PM

Nicely said.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

feed him to cannibals

Posted by: devilsadvocate2 | December 7, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

MColeman51, I have been waiting a decade for the team to get better, and still see the same old crap. And don't for a minute judge my parenting.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

If Coach Shanahan was really really nice and brought Albert pies and gave him a foot massage he would have played better.

Posted by: kls1 | December 7, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Think about it, mColeman - when did Monte retire? You are naming yourself after a guy who played here many years ago because there have been no admirable players or good memories since Snyder has owned the team. Knowing when to give up on a losing effort or organization is a valuable lesson.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Dan's track record:
Gregg Williams left
And became a SB champion within 2 years

Ryan Clark
Same

Antonio Pierce
Same

Norv
Became an annual division champ, something that no coach here has even won once since Norv left 10 years ago this week

Randle El left
Is on a really good team heading somewhere this season, where the skins are not

Jason Taylor left
On a 9-3 team today

Zorn left
On a team heading somewhere this season

Jason left
On a 6-6 team in a weak division, thus a chance

Then check the records on those who came here under Dan. Big difference

Deion, Adam, Shanny, McNabb, Brunell, Spurrier, Bruce, Randle El while here, on and on ...

Posted by: morrisday1 | December 7, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Best suspension ever!! Now if we could just insure that he'll never face the Skins in an opposing uniform I'd be happy.

Posted by: canyonjunkie | December 7, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Think about it, mColeman - when did Monte retire? You are naming yourself after a guy who played here many years ago because there have been no admirable players or good memories since Snyder has owned the team. Knowing when to give up on a losing effort or organization is a valuable lesson.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

No way Snyder would move the team. He would force people to go after him. HA

Posted by: zenaf88 | December 7, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 4:06 PM

I'm not trying to change your mind. It just seems to me that today is an odd day to give up on them. The day to lament the dysfunction was the day they SIGNED Haynesworth, not the day they have the tumor removed.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 7, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Two quick thoughts...

1. Re the role of the union in protecting this worthless bum...the NFLPA is about to de-certify in furtherance of their bigger general issues with NFL management. Really can't see them scrapping that approach in favor of a vigorous defense of Butterworth.

2. Which is the aberration - the "successful" Skins OR, the pathetic "laughing stock" version? The # of years measure says the latter. The team was only a force in the league from '37-'45, '69-'77, '82-'91. NOW...what was the common factors in those years? I'd say a competent management TEAM. That includes owner, GM, & coaching staff.

Ask yourself...do you EVER see the sawed-off little weasel that calls the team his property now EVER being one leg of that triad? If not, what happens when one leg of a tripod is much shorter than the other two legs?

The damn thing falls over....

The Redskins are MY team...the one franchise I follow more closely than any other team in any other sport. They have been from the time I was 3 years old (45 now)...they will be my team for as long as my feeble brain can comprehend what football is. I'm not always happy about that...but I know myself well enough to know that fact won't change.

If I want them to be successful, all I can do is wish ill will & misfortune on this intellectual pygmy of an owner in the hopes that the team will next pass into the hands of someone with the class to appreciate what he owns & the wisdom to know what to do with it.

Posted by: clb_in_md | December 7, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Buy high and sell low-it's what any competent business does!

Posted by: Son-of-Washington | December 7, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Can we make him sit for the remainder of his contract, then his career doesn't benefit anyone else and we make an example of him becoming a 500 lbs, slovenly pig.

Might be worth the price -- coming out of Danny's deep pockets...

Posted by: shepDC | December 7, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

God, what a dumb a'ss! Serves him right!Why would he throw all that money and talent out the window.

Unbeleivable.

Posted by: montana123 | December 7, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

And yes, by giving $32 million to that tub of lard in April instead of trying to trade him back to TENN for a 4th rounder is the ultimate in Synderesque Stupidi

I thought TN wasn't interested in sending a 4th for Haynesworth until AFTER April.

Posted by: zenaf88 | December 7, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I can't really see how anyone can say the Redskins handled this in an embarassing fashion. In my estimation Shanahan, Bruce Allen, and the rest of the organization gave Haynesworth every opportunity to get his house in order and act and perform like professional. I believe they actually protected Haynesworth from himself by not telling the media/public the whole truth. Haynesworth has created his own monster and this is the absolute best way to handle it at this time. Just put him on a shelf and get him away from your team until someone other team comes a callin' - and they will.

Posted by: AsstGM | December 7, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

GET LOST "FAT ALBERT" YOU AIN'T NEAR AS GOOD AS YOU THINK YOU ARE--YOU JERK.

WHEN YOU LEAVE PLEASE TAKE THAT AWFUL OWNER WITH YOU. HE HAS DESTROYED THE ONCE MIGHTY REDSKINS, A ONCE PROUD FRANCHISE IS NO MORE. SAD SAD SAD

Posted by: duckyjimpond | December 7, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Suck it, Fatty!

Posted by: ProfessorPeabody | December 7, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

This isn't the first player to steal money from the Skins. Remember Deion Sanders.

Posted by: Quizicat | December 7, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is blaming Cerrato. He only did what Snyder wanted him to do, which was bring in another high profile, expensive player and make a splash. Well, Danny boy, this jump was into an empty pool.

Posted by: wp318676 | December 7, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance.

Posted by: edduden | December 7, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance.

Posted by: edduden | December 7, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I thought TN wasn't interested in sending a 4th for Haynesworth until AFTER April.

Posted by: zenaf88 | December 7, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. I thought there were not any offers until after that.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | December 7, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This is Albert, I've read your comments and i dont care if you dont like me, i got $35 million Biotch! im laughing at you as i kick back and look out the window of dunkin donuts, just got me a dozen bear claws hot from the oven. hmm bear claws, chicago bears? NEXT!

Posted by: djlojak | December 7, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This is Albert, I've read your comments and i dont care if you dont like me, i got $35 million Biotch! im laughing at you as i kick back and look out the window of dunkin donuts, just got me a dozen bear claws hot from the oven. hmm bear claws, chicago bears? NEXT!

Posted by: djlojak | December 7, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Albert Hayensworth has become the SCAPEGOAT for a FAILED Mike Shannahan experiment.
Its time for the Redskings to cut their losses Shannahan has been a complete failure.
The suspension of Big Albert is a cover for a Failed Season.
Lets examine the facts. Shannahan brought a number of Bums who could not play and assistant coaches who could not coach. Where did Kyle Shannahan Play?
First of all in the off season Shannahan decided that he was going to go to a 3-4 Defense BUT the team did bot have 3-4 personnel The Defence has been one of the worst in the league. This defense is worst than Gregg Blatche defense. Rvery game this defense gives up over 400 Yards. They were lit up by Philly on Mondaynight, Lit up with By the Giants Lit yp by the Colts Many of these games Albert did not even play any significant downs.
Then on Offence the brought in Donovan Andy Reid is no fool he ptobably realized that Donavon had lost a step or two or three so like Philly always does he moved him while he could still get something for him and we end up with a high milage used car.
He has not been nuch of an improvement over Jason Campbell because we did not fix the O-Line The Centr e Casey Raybac cant protect the QB he gets pushed back into last week on every play Htah is Hyah cant play . They brought in Artis Hicks who is about 40 and Brown who has a bad hip They have refused to Play Derrick Dockery.
THey they brought in a bunch of oldtimers Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, Joey Galloway all over the Hill. They put Kelly on IR but kept Galloway, They cut Devin thomas who resurfaced with the Giants.
This has been a FAILED SEASON for Shannahan and to cover his you know waht they throw Albert under the Bus.
THis franchaise sucks and nothing they do will change that.

Posted by: Carprin | December 7, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The Vinny and Danny dynamic duo has imploded the skins organization for decades.

Posted by: bam1969 | December 7, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I must say that Shanahan is GOOD at distracting the media pack. Two days after a humiliating loss, for which Haynesworth cannot possibly be blamed as he did not play, and acting in the best tradition of Russian troika drivers throwing passengers to the wolves, he tosses Hayneswoth out to distract press and fan. The Haters who haven't been truly comfortable since Edward Bennett WIlliams integrated the team promptly respond as usual, ending any "Coach, what went wrong Sunday?" questions.

Never mind that Shanahan has destroyed a team asset. No team will offer the Redskins anything for him, as they know he will be cut. That fourth round pick offered by Tennessee is looking mighty good right now. Part of Shanahan's job is to manage the players; he has failed miserably. Haynesworth could have been used, he could have been traded. Thanks to Shanny, instead he's been wasted.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | December 7, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The only thing left to do is flush the toilet.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | December 7, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This drama has only just begun. The language in Shanahan's statement reads like it was written by lawyers. No doubt they'll be going after some of the bonus money that fatso got in the Spring.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 7, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Joan Rivers is having another hissy fit.

Posted by: mdpilot | December 7, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

fire jim haslett how do u take a top ten defense and turn it into a total disaster what the hell with this 3-4 nonsense it doesn"t even look like redskin football. all these losses are a result of haslett messing up our defense. if we could actually stop someone from running over us like a mack truck we might actually have a drive where we are relaxed and finding a groove instead of making every drive a must score death to haslett and his 3-4 he sucks
RIP #21 4EVER HTTR!!!

Posted by: cpt55back | December 7, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Albert is the poster boy for what many of us see as what is wrong with professional athletes. One would think he would be a little grateful for how he has ended up in life. If this were not America and we did not have professional sports, Albert would be bussing tables at Denny's. However, the bigger sin is the Washington Redskins signing this piece of garbage for $41 million guaranteed. What an absolutely idiotic decision.

Posted by: wrw01011 | December 7, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

fire jim haslett how do u take a top ten defense and turn it into a total disaster what the hell with this 3-4 nonsense it doesn"t even look like redskin football. all these losses are a result of haslett messing up our defense. if we could actually stop someone from running over us like a mack truck we might actually have a drive where we are relaxed and finding a groove instead of making every drive a must score death to haslett and his 3-4 he sucks
RIP #21 4EVER HTTR!!!

Posted by: cpt55back | December 7, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Mcoleman, to be honest I made my descision sunday night, this has just prompted me to go public. And to be sure - it hurts, and it isn't a snap descision, I just have no faith that they can ever win again with the runt owning them. If he sells, I may come back.

Posted by: David90 | December 7, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

TED LEONSIS PLEASE BUY THE REDSKINS.

SOMEONE SHOOT THE PIGMY.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | December 7, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm going out on a limb to point out that the Haynesworth free agent signing hasn't worked out especially well.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 7, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

That’s why most of you DONKEYS are DEADSKINS fans. They save 800000 dollars. WOW!!! You IDIOTS Haynesworth and his Agent know there is no way the DEADSKINS can recoup the BONUS money so the ploy work. Now he can be ready for the next team when the DEADSKINS trade him. DEADSKIN FANS.

Posted by: access11 | December 7, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

That’s why most of you DONKEYS are DEADSKINS fans. They saved 800000 dollars. WOW!!! You IDIOTS Haynesworth and his Agent know there is no way the DEADSKINS can recoup the BONUS money so the ploy work. Now he can be ready for the next team when the DEADSKINS trade him. DEADSKIN FANS.

Posted by: access11 | December 7, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

About time.

Posted by: CrankyGeezer | December 7, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Geeeeeze---So much drivel in response to this suspension....I have just one freegin' thing to say..this is what a Dan Snyder team will always be about...always, always..it just aint never gonna change as long as that boy sycophant owner/fawner owns the team.

Posted by: demetz5050 | December 7, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

This has been a mess since Day 1. Why Shanahan thought he could implement 3-4 with 4-3 personnel is a mystery to me, but I suspect it had alot to do with Shanny's ego. And once Big Al didn't buy into the "voluntary" off-season conditioning program, it was done & they should've found a way to get rid of him, for whatever they could get.

Skins should either draft or sign FA personnel to run 3-4, or return to 4-3 (which won't ever happen due to egos). This is a long-term rebuild, & St Louis, Detroit, & even Oakland are WAY ahead of Skins in rebuilding. We have about 3 players who could start for another team right now. Sad.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 7, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

THE REDSKINS ARE 5 YEARS AWAY FROM BEING COMPETITIVE. IF THE PIGMY STAYS OUT OF ALLEN AND SHANNY'S WAY. IF NOT MAYBE HE WILL DIE AND TED LEONSIS WILL BUY THE SKINS.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | December 7, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


He hasn't contributed, can't contribute and will not contribute. Let him go to court to get his money. What a waste of time he has been. Now, he can go back to Tennessee and be a loser there.


Posted by: mortified469 | December 7, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth is suspended by the Redskins after receiving $35 million from Danny Boy over the last two years. He had 77 tackles and 6.5 sacks during that time. That works out to $5.3 million per sack or $454k per tackle. Perhaps Danny Boy should join the cast of Biggest Loser -- a million single dollar bills weigh in at 2,202.6 pounds, so he lost 77,091 pounds on this 35 million deal.

Posted by: qwertyman | December 7, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Both sides have plenty to blame. But I think alot of people are missing the larger picture. The biggest issue that the Redskins have is that they lack a person that can evaluate talent(free agent and draft) correctly with regards to the current scheme. Time and time again, they have brought in the wrong talent for the job at hand and instead of cutting ties, they turn it into something personal. They did this with Brandon Lloyd, Adam Archeleta and now Haynesworth. This is the same Lloyd that will be an All Pro this season. Do people forget they did the same thing to Lavar? They haven't had a decent talent evaluator since Bobbby Beathard.

Posted by: allanllee | December 7, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Both sides have plenty to blame. But I think alot of people are missing the larger picture. The biggest issue that the Redskins have is that they lack a person that can evaluate talent(free agent and draft) correctly with regards to the current scheme. Time and time again, they have brought in the wrong talent for the job at hand and instead of cutting ties, they turn it into something personal. They did this with Brandon Lloyd, Adam Archeleta, Lavernues Coles, DT and now Haynesworth. This is the same Lloyd that will be an All Pro this season. Do people forget they did the same thing to Lavar? They haven't had a decent talent evaluator since Bobbby Beathard. They need someone who can judge character as well as talent and see if they fit into the Redskin's culture. If they can find that correct personnel evaluator, then they can start down the road toward fixing this culture of blame that is so prevalent in the Redskin's organization.

Posted by: allanllee | December 7, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Well...... When's the draft. In April, to bad we don't have any picks because of brilliant moves like Big AL.

How can Snyder be so sucessful and make such bad decisions? I don't get it?
I'm serious here. How long can a business continue producing garbage and make money?You can sustain for a while, but at some point the cow drops dead.

I think the McNabb signing was just like the Jason Worth signing. Why is it the we don't develop players? Brady was what a 7th rounder or or something like that? I mean we already suck! So why not just accept we are going to suck for a couple of years.

Big AL is a perfect reflection of the owner of this team. I'm etitled It's all Me and mine, mine, mine! Don't like it? too bad chump! The parallel is right there but no one ever mentions it. Really how different are these guys? I'll bet if we had the real inside on what goes on at Redskin Park it would be the same thing different name.

Posted by: mriley0223 | December 7, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

David90, I know, I know, this is your beef with mcoleman, but this is a public forum, so...

Your earlier post said you'd been waiting a decade for the team to get better. Don't you think a decade in professional sports is nothing? Isn't teaching your daughter that it's a smart thing to give up on something that sometimes takes many many years to accomplish seems... well, a little myopic? This isn't like some business deal that has some diminishing marginal returns and it makes good financial sense to get out of it. That would seem like a good lesson to teach a kid.

But this is something much different. For one thing, it's about fun, it's about learning to appreciate the ups and downs and the frustrations. It's about learning to just have some loyalty. And loyalty to something that just is supposed to be fun.

It's a little obvious, but look at the Boston Red Sox fans. For years on end they suffered. And they suffered bad ownership along the way, I'm sure. I mean, that's a long, long time they waited. But the Sox fans I know who were there every step of the way... I think that World Series victory was more than special to them. It was deeply gratifying and a great life lesson because they hung in there. The only cost to them over the years was a bit of disappointment which would turn back around to renewed hope and enthusiasm. They learned perspective and they enjoyed the ride every year.

I spent many a Sunday when I was a kid watching Sonny throw for 400 yards and they'd lose 56 - 0. But I learned to stay persistent, to stay hopeful, and to not let losing get me down. I carried that over into many aspects of my life as I got older and I'm very grateful for it.

I think Dan Snyder has done a terrible job. I know seeing an organization being mismanaged at the top is different from watching players play poorly. But it's a package deal and if you stick around and weather the horrific decisions that he makes, your daughter will see a great example of persistence in the pursuit of a fun pastime. You may see Dan Snyder finally learning to become a better owner, or you might not. You may see a team actually win in spite of him.

I have a daughter and a son. They ended up Broncos fans because we were living in Denver. We have a great time supporting our teams, having fun, not taking it too seriously, but still getting worked up on game day and enjoying the ride. I hope you can do the same with your daughter.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | December 7, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I am just pleased that his taxes are not going up. He should write a thank-you letter to the Republican party for their efforts in protecting his interests. I don't know how many jobs he will be providing however from his new windfall. Perhaps just his own?

Posted by: NewThoughts | December 7, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Can we suspend Obama without pay for the remainder of his season?

The redskins saved 850k - thats a drop in the bucket of what America would save by sending Obama back to Chicago - or better yet, Indonesia.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | December 7, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth should have been kicked to the curb weeks ago. He has the athletic ability to be great. Unfortunately, he's not a team player and likely never will be. Good riddance.

Posted by: Oracle3 | December 7, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Braves on the warpath,
Fight for ol' DC!

Posted by: RoJaKa | December 7, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

So no player in the NFL can ever do anything the coach tells them not to?! I guess that will eliminate alot of penalties. Fat Albert will get his money with interest.

IS there anyone out there that won't sign up to be Danny's advisor for the next 5 years for 100 million...even if you not necessarily the very best?

Stop whinning Fat Albert & his agent took Danny to the cleaners....so whats new.

Albert will go to another team with conditions in his contract and he will perform, he will be a Pro Bowler again....almost a guarrantee since the Redskins let him go.

Shannan & Allen evaluate talent? No offensive line, no offensive scoring, and total destruction of a once decent defense.
Talk about going backwards.

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 7, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Scapegoat

Posted by: fresno500 | December 7, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

$35 million divided by 77 tackles.

He made $454,545 per tackle.

You can hate all you want to.

That dude played EVERYONE.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | December 7, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert was KEYSHAWNED!! (reference to Keyshawn Johnson-Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who was suspended for his last 6 games, after the Bucs SuperBowl win).

Posted by: Robbnitafl | December 7, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

If this was anyone but Haynesworth, everyone would believe the player's version. Snyder would not let them trade AH for a Titans 4th round pick, & since then Shanahan has been waiting for his chance. Under the CBA, a player can only be suspended w/o pay for 4 games, so Shanahan waited until after game 12 & then made up this story about Albert. Yes, Albert's a jerk, but Shanahan is a has-been & this team will continue to stink for another decade.

Posted by: kauf5413 | December 7, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I prefer to say he got T.O'ed.

Shannahan has zero leadership and has been riding The man since day one. The skins will never be over .500 under his reign. Anybody but the coach.

Posted by: fresno500 | December 7, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh at the quote from his lawyer (courtesy of WTOP): "Since training camp began, today's notice was the first that Albert received informing him that his conduct was not consistent with the 'terms of his contract' as coach Shanahan claims."

I guess not showing up for MANDATORY training is considered acceptable in his contract? What part of MANDATORY doens't Fat Albert or his lawyer understnad? What part of 'showing up to practice hung over' is considered acceptable? Oh, that's right, he's a lawyer, so showing up for work and making ungodly amounts of money for doing nothing good would seem acceptable to a lawyer.

Sticking around to collect his $21M paycheck was sleazy, but given his alternative (finding someone who actually wants him around) what choice did he have?

How he can sleep at night is beyond me. Shameless poor excuse of a man.

Posted by: Disbelief | December 7, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

He'll end up with the dog torturing sadist in the city of brotherly love and come out on fire to kill redskins, earning him another pro-bowl appearance.

Posted by: pooftah2 | December 7, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

AH and Shanny are both to blame for this debacle. Both should learn valuable lessons from this mess.

Posted by: dcwun | December 7, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

=======================================

How is Shanny to blame? For insisting that Fat Al follow the same rules as the other 52 players? For insisting that Fat Al act like a professional adult, not a pouty eight-year-old who didn't get his way?

Fat Al got his huge payday and, once that happened, his willingness to be a team player, to listen to coaches, to give his all on every play (or just most of them), all went out the window. He's laughing all the way to the bank, comfortable in the knowledge that the $35 MILLION he's got in the bank is his to keep, regardless of whether he played another down or not for the Skins.

If you want to blame anybody else, blame Snyder. There were plenty of warning signs but none were heeded. But the bottom line is Fat Al repaid the Skins' absurdly huge contract with a big fat F U.

Fat Al = everything that's wrong with today's athlete. Your parents should be utterly ashamed of you.

Posted by: johnwp | December 7, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Please, no more articles on Haynesworth until he starts playing well enough on the field to be worth mentioning. I'm sick of hearing about him.

Posted by: carbon916 | December 7, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

I think its a conspiracy. Danny works for Jerry and the CowB!%(#!$ are lovin it!

Posted by: FanaShan | December 7, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Haynesworth

An award given to the laziest, most self centered player in the NFL. The award is struck in gold in the likeness of a ham sandwich.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | December 7, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

The Haynesworth

An award given to the laziest, most self centered player in the NFL. The award is struck in fools gold in the likeness of a ham sandwich.

Posted by: 44fx2901 | December 7, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan sucks. Jim Haslett sucks, Kyle Shanahan sucks. The Redskin teams the past few years were at least able to keep teams in the NFC east from scoring 30 points, but now our defense is in the bottom of the league in almost every category. Haslett is not the guy, the Saints were never able to win until they fired Haslett. Kyle Shanahan's Houston Texans teams were never been better than an 8-8 team. Everyone keep waiting for them to get over the hump. 8-8 for him is over the hump!! The market for Haynesworth when we signed him was at 100 million he was the most sought after free agent. We were lucky to have a guy like that on our defense but we failed to get him to live up to his potential, we have to do a better job as an organization of getting the most out of the players while they are here and we fail to do that. The coaching staff have not took any blame for this awful season it has been 1 excuse after another by them. Albert's the bad guy he is needed by guys like Haslett and Shanahan to hang the blame on but reality says the Redskins are ill prepared offensively and defensively each week. Shanahan had better come up with something fast or its only going to go downhill. Ask yourself when have the Redskins made a good move for the team. No one who comes here perform well. No one consistently, we have all the tools to be a successful team, the right market, the right franchise except we continue to choose the wrong coach for this franchise. All of the winning franchises are focusing and preparing for next weeks opponent and we are looking for someone to blame. Until that culture change here we will never be able to pull ourselves from the bottom of the NFC.

Posted by: Tdroberts13 | December 7, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

johnwp = Preach On Brother!! Can I getta Amen!!??

Posted by: FanaShan | December 7, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

It's good to know that Snyder is going to be saving himself $850,000 from Haynesworth's $100,000,000 contract.

I find it pretty hard to believe Snyder is a billionaire. It must be that other people are making his decisions for him in the communications business, because he certainly isn't a businessman because this deal is like paying 100 grand for a pair of used sneakers.

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | December 7, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

think the only one I agree with is 5, Galloway was a waste, but the rest can be explained:

1. You can't blame a first year coach for not winning, Gibbs 1.0 and 2.0 didn't win in the first years.

2. Parker and Johnson are has beens. They were willing to bring them back and see what they had left, which was obviously nothing.

3. Thomas is a joke, he deserved to be released. It was a fluke he blocked that punt, don't go thinking he's going to turn into some superstar now!

4. Kelley on IR was interesting, but they obviously saw something they liked, and it's not like it cost us a roster spot, no big deal.

6. Haslett had crappy players to work with, he deserves another chance with a couple more pieces added to this 3-4.

7. The Oline had to be changed, the blame should be on Cerrato and Co., they did what they could with this unit.

8. They tride playing him, but if the dude doesn't know the defense and isn't in shape, then he shouldn't play, that would send a bad message to all the players.

9. We did trade away a couple picks, but we got McNabb, who should be better in his second year in this offense and with some better players around him, and Jamal Brown, who should be completely healed by next year. I'm not willing to give up on them yet.

10. See #9.

Posted by: monk811 | December 7, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you somewhat, but just like JGallowway, why have DT11 on the roster for the start of the season then release him? When you are soooo thin at that position? I dont care if DT11 a pretty boy fake super model or not JZ got something out of him.

Posted by: taylormade218 | December 7, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"Incidentally, for anyone who thinks “boycotting” will get Snyder to sell the team, you should go take another hit off the crack pipe. If Danny ever hits a worst case scenario he will move the team to Los Angeles, not sell it."
Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 7, 2010 12:53 PM

You sound like a battered wife afraid to stand up to her husband because she's afraid he'll leave her. Ownership and management are crap, and buying jerseys and watching the games enables their poor decisions. Fact.

Losing and winning beside, what good is having a franchise if it's a soulless Frankenstein bought by Snyder on the second hand market? Even IF he did move the team, which I very much doubt would go through, better to not have a franchise for a few years than this disgrace we've had for the last decade and a half.

Posted by: scabby | December 7, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

This sorry situation reflects as poorly on Shanahan -- his heard-headedness, his inability to handle personnel problems and his impulsiveness -- as much as it does on Haynesworth.

Posted by: NCFan | December 7, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Fat Al, for all you do, this Bud's for you.

Enjoy your cheeseburgers, Al. Now you have all the time in the world to eat them.

All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 7, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

It's a sad situation all around. First off be done with Haynesworth! He is not an honorable man. He took the check and reneged on his word. Enough! Then Shanahans pulling of Mcnabb against the Lions and they then sign him to a long term deal.I have hopes every year (as I will next) but when will this end?

It is really really hard to be a Redskin fan.

Posted by: lylefish | December 7, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Adult Attention Deficit Disorder.

Posted by: 70chiponwhite | December 7, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Finally. This took way too long.

Posted by: allknowingguy | December 7, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

hey virginia klansman why don't you go back to wherever you came from" you are a INVADER NO WHERE ON THE EARTH YOU OR ANYONE OF YOUR ILK ARE THE ORIGINAL NO-WHERE IDIOT, nothing more than a settler(thief) GO BACK HOME AND NEVER RETURN HERE. shamm-o-KLAN will always and those like him blame their historic scapegoats(so-called black people) I said earlier on this moron was a loser and fool as someone mentioned they are not talking about the azz kicking the giants put on them (I called it last week)they will hang a "negro(haynesworth)out and try to hide the fact that the entire coaching staff and gm should be fined and fired this is just another trick by these gangsters to take the attention off themselves and their ineptness.

Posted by: wathu19 | December 7, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

This is why you focus on getting players with outstanding character. Team-first guys, not me-first egomaniacs who only ruin team chemistry. Redskins management should learn from this failed experiment.

Posted by: Transpoguy | December 7, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

The NFLPA should not embarrass itself by defending this overpaid, lazy, slug, but that's what they do, defend worthless layabouts.
AH will eat himself out of condition so badly that if he does try with another team, and simple push or inadvertant trip will require an enhanced training staff with a hoist to get him off the ground, as evidenced by a certain recent play.
He will not be a factor for another team because he lacks morals, work ethics and teamwork.
Snyder should start a new "hall of shame' (admission charged of course) for the massive failures
he has signed, both in players (PooPooHead Deion), Fat Albert, a host of sure-fire QBs and defensive backs AND COACHES. He will surely have a who's-who's of shoulda beens, including a magnificent bust of himself over the entrance (would have been life size but Branden Banks would have had to look down on his way in.
The Skins have a small core of good players - Cooley, Fletcher, Banks and others but they can't best 11 guys in the other color.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 7, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan's record in has last 60 games is 29-31. Just like all the players who were brought into this town past their prime, so has this coach. The stats don't lie.

He is a poor judge of talent. He cut Brandon Banks, Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, the teams best producers. Only bringing them back because of injury.

He authorized changing a Top 10 defense to a different system. Not change for the better, but change just to change. That unit has 6 All Pro's and 7 First Round draft picks. This staff has coached them to be the worst unit in football.

In lieu of teaching a young, athletic and talented QB and WR, he let's them go. Replacing them with other "has beens" like himself.

He has alienated the team and it's only a matter of time before it shows outwardly.

Coach is a defensive, dishonest, Napoleonic egomaniac. And those are his good qualities. He's been fired twice for good reason. We can only hope his third firing occurs in a timely fashion.

Posted by: jmueller7 | December 7, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

First off, hopefully Haynesworth is now out of a 'skins uniform for good. He added "some" positive defense results, that is when he played, but not nearly enough to balance the price tag of money and locker room controversy. Cut your losses, Redskins management. Period.

It will haunt us for, what I hope is only a short time, to realize what we could of had instead of AH. Maybe some more O-line talent, for example. That counts, really. Maybe more than AH ever added defensively. The O-line helps McNabb and crew work better. Improvements should be less sacks and rushing the passer, running backs gaining yards, wide receivers and tight ends having better chances of good throws toward them. It also does change what the quarterback does. Any QB throws better when he's not pressured or lying on his backside, ya know when the O-line, uh blocks better. Oh, by the way, an O-line helps the offense do this one little thing, score touchdowns. Does the O-line "DO" that themselves? No, but as part of a TEAM, they work together, doing their job/assignment for the purpose of scoring more points than the other team.

I'm talking on the offensive side as a whole, by the way. I'm not focusing on individuals, ok?

Defensively, the AH dollar loss should have put a number of other players in position there too. Maybe a key position has a better player or more depth WHEN, not if, someone gets hurt and can't play.

We can't play the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" game. Let's get over with the AH thing entirely, and I hope quickly, and let's move on. Really stretching it here, but here's hoping we can get something back from the AH deal, some dollars or something. Maybe.

Finish out this season I hope with some more W's and let the coaches, the GM and owner build better soon. And that is the sooner the better. HTTR!

Posted by: davedeltawhiskeybravo | December 8, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I praise Shanahan for doing what a coach is supposed to do. For years all you whiners and meadia types talked about how the inmates ran the assylum in Washington, players running back and forth between the coaches and Dan Snyder, but when we do get a coach who expects accountability and effort from his players shows up, then its the coaches fault. If Albert didn't want to play in this system, then he could left a long time ago. If he tells Shanahan that he intends to do whatever it takes to play in this defense, then thats all Shanahan has to go on. Now after taking his money, Albert decides, well now I'm going to do what I want to do when I want to do it. Forget Albert, happy trails, and praise to a great coach who expects more out of his players. This is this teams first year with Shanahan, so to all u clowns expecting a playoff run and Super Bowl, and there are many out there who did, get real. 1st year in a system isn't going to do it, so give it some time, because Shanahan is going to build this team the way he wants it, and with his players, not with somebody else's that were handed down to him. Give the man more than a year and we will start winning again.

Posted by: skynz71 | December 8, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

I praise Shanahan for doing what a coach is supposed to do. For years all you whiners and meadia types talked about how the inmates ran the assylum in Washington, players running back and forth between the coaches and Dan Snyder, but when we do get a coach who expects accountability and effort from his players shows up, then its the coaches fault. If Albert didn't want to play in this system, then he could left a long time ago. If he tells Shanahan that he intends to do whatever it takes to play in this defense, then thats all Shanahan has to go on. Now after taking his money, Albert decides, well now I'm going to do what I want to do when I want to do it. Forget Albert, happy trails, and praise to a great coach who expects more out of his players. This is this teams first year with Shanahan, so to all u clowns expecting a playoff run and Super Bowl, and there are many out there who did, get real. 1st year in a system isn't going to do it, so give it some time, because Shanahan is going to build this team the way he wants it, and with his players, not with somebody else's that were handed down to him. Give the man more than a year and we will start winning again.

Posted by: skynz71 | December 8, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I praise Shanahan for doing what a coach is supposed to do. For years all you whiners and meadia types talked about how the inmates ran the assylum in Washington, players running back and forth between the coaches and Dan Snyder, but when we do get a coach who expects accountability and effort from his players shows up, then its the coaches fault. If Albert didn't want to play in this system, then he could left a long time ago. If he tells Shanahan that he intends to do whatever it takes to play in this defense, then thats all Shanahan has to go on. Now after taking his money, Albert decides, well now I'm going to do what I want to do when I want to do it. Forget Albert, happy trails, and praise to a great coach who expects more out of his players. This is this teams first year with Shanahan, so to all u clowns expecting a playoff run and Super Bowl, and there are many out there who did, get real. 1st year in a system isn't going to do it, so give it some time, because Shanahan is going to build this team the way he wants it, and with his players, not with somebody else's that were handed down to him. Give the man more than a year and we will start winning again.

Posted by: skynz71 | December 8, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

The way to turn around the Redskins is to slaughter the sacred cow. As of now, he has been moved from the stockyard into the line heading to the slaughterhouse entrance.

Thank you, Shanny! Finally someone at the Redskins has the balls to pull the plug.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The way to turn around the Redskins is to slaughter the sacred cow. As of now, he has been moved from the stockyard into the line heading to the slaughterhouse entrance.

Thank you, Shanny! Finally someone at the Redskins has the balls to pull the plug.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Thank God! Now all we need is for Snyder to sell the team or kick the bucket.

Posted by: erico31us | December 8, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

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