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Shanahan on Haynesworth deal: 'It's not going to happen'


Updated at 6 p.m.

In an interview today with the NFL Network, Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan didn't leave himself any wiggle room about the prospects of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth being traded.

"No, it's not going to happen....Albert Haynesworth will not be traded," Shanahan said.

Not sure if there are many ways to interpret that. And, if there were, Shanahan elaborated on ESPN.

"We made a big investment in him," he said. "Hopefully he comes in and does the things he needs to do to help us win."

Although Shanahan has publicly said similar things since his minicamp last week, reports, rumors and speculation has persisted, and Tennessee, New Orleans, Minnesota and Detroit have all been linked in trade talks.

The NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora reported this afternoon that Haynesworth would be moved today, likely to Tennessee in exchange for a third-round draft pick in tonight's draft. But Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt used language just as strong as Shanahan's.

"It's a dead issue. It is not happening," Reinfeldt told The Tennessean. "From our perspective there is nothing [to the report] at all. I have not talked to the Redskins in a long time.''

By Rick Maese  |  April 23, 2010; 5:48 PM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth , NFL Draft  
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Posted by: cb50 | April 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Say for instance Shanahan is telling the truth about us NOT wanting to trade Albert H.

Because the media keeps going and going and speculating and fans will keep buying it, how does this not create distractions ? and how does this not affect Haynesworth thinkin' "well it is a business and maybe they ARE tryna trade me"

It is completely feasible that the media is fuccing up the relationship between the two, EVEN if Shanahan had no intentions of trading him.

So the next time Mike Sellars b!tches about the media, maybe show a lil support for the players, cuz the media ain't all that and a bag of chipz!

F the media for how they treat Portis and Haynesworth!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tiTzQoEWDw&feature=related

we'll know in a few minutes whether the second round is worth watching or not...

love the spaghetti westerns.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 5:49 PM
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funny moodly..
Best one..
The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.
Which also summarizes what the Skins have left in this draft with no one willing to trade with them.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to send him to NO for Jammal Brown.

Posted by: Goldenfried | April 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to send him to NO for Jammal Brown.

Posted by: Goldenfried | April 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Also change your name...Skins have a GM now.

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 3:14 PM
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who? Bruce Allen has said he is a cap manager.
The Head Coach is the GM on the Skins.. However, its far better than what we had ...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse
interesting...Yes you are right...He is a good cap manager...but what has his job in the nfl been for year. General Manager.....whats is his position with the Skins general manager....

So a what point did you conclude he is not the Gerneral Manager?
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hol-y crap.. I am just saying what BA said, he is the cap manager (I think he said capologist?)..I know he was GM with other teams in the past..But, by all appearances, Shanahan is acting as the GM. Anyway..Who cares".. blind cripple crazy would be better than Vinny. And I took the handle when the Skins had no GM....but just a "Executive assistant vice president of personnel and racquet ball buddy to the Owner". chill out Levi....it was partly facetious......

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

What happens if J.La.Confora, uses his cred as a reporter and the twitter platform to spread a completely false rumor like "caught Cindy Boren shopping in Victoria Secrets..with another man"

What's gonna happen if Cindy's husband catches wind of this...even though the rumor is false, the reasonable doubt has been established.

F the media WHEN they report irresponsibly!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

A source close to my cocker spaniel says that Haynesworth will be traded. Book it.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 23, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Since when did LaCantreporta get ANYTHING right? The dude is used and abused by so many "sources" who just talk to him because they know he'll trumpet the bs agenda their pushing...

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 23, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The media never has to deal with the repercussions for reporting ill-informed waffle! That's BS.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"reports, rumors and speculation persists, and Tennessee, New Orleans, Minnesota and Detroit have all been linked in
trade talks."

90% of the rumors have started with one Mr. Reid, the same Mr. Reid who has quoted Shanahan multiple times to the effect of the above statement. Please stop confusing 'rumors' with inside information.

Every actual move of the Redskins has been documented by other sources first, and the track record for 'inside sources' here are generally pretty poor. Jeezus tits, if you can't find the news before others, just post a convenient summary.

But making up news? Pathetic.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The media never has to deal with the repercussions for reporting ill-informed waffle! That's BS.

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse
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My general experience with waffles is that none of them are very well informed. At least, not unless they are a suicidal species, at which point the ones at IHOP are very well informed, indeed.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

F the media WHEN they report irresponsibly!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 5:59 PM

But making up news? Pathetic.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:05 PM

you really think the 'skins haven't had serious discussions with other teams about trading AH?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

My general experience with waffles is that none of them are very well informed. At least, not unless they are a suicidal species, at which point the ones at IHOP are very well informed, indeed.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:09 PM


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lol

I prefer the ones from Belgium. (Visited that country once. They do not like outsiders--particularly Americans)

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

He won't be traded because no one wants his fat ass. Another classic screw up by Snyder.

Posted by: MKadyman | April 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Why are you guys upset with JLC? Can't you see his glasses? They're like the bottom side of Coca-Cola bottle. The guy is legally blind and can't see what he's reporting.

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I prefer the ones from Belgium. (Visited that country once. They do not like outsiders--particularly Americans)

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:15 PM

maybe it depends on your attitude... I found the low countries (especially Holland) hospitable. but I did keep going back to Amsterdam.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

you really think the 'skins haven't had serious discussions with other teams about trading AH?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:15 PM


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I addressed that earlier yesterday. If multiple picks including at least 1 2nd rounder were offered, then that is the only serious discussion that has taken place.

Do you really think any teams have offered that?

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

A source close to my cocker spaniel says that Haynesworth will be traded. Book it.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 23, 2010 6:01 PM

Stumped is getting inside information from a tick. Let's take up a collection to send the boy to buy the boy some brain meds. I'm pitching in five virtual dollars and I think BeantownGreg will put up a few bonus points. Anyone else in?

Posted by: League-Source | April 23, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

JLA was just on and made a statement about the attributes of a player and why he'll go a a particular team.

Mike Mayock just rolled his eyes and shot down everything that JLA just said.

TOO FUNNY

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Good....make his fat azz play!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Day two of the draft and the Redskins FO is still on the ball.

Day 1. Draft starting LT. Begin Building O line dominance.

Day 2. Keep BEST defensive player instead of foolishly trading him. Maintain the foundation for D line dominance.

It all starts up front on the lines. Excellent work.

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I addressed that earlier yesterday. If multiple picks including at least 1 2nd rounder were offered, then that is the only serious discussion that has taken place.

Do you really think any teams have offered that?

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:19 PM

I try to read the media with a skeptical eye, so don't see any reason to be overly disappointed when what they say turns out not to be true. especially when it's idle sports chit chat.

also wouldn't be surprised if there has been much discussion with multiple teams about various deals that involved 2nd round picks, or higher/lower... this was the gist of what I took away from all of the media speculation. AH was available for the right price, no more or less.

it hasn't happened so far. may never, might still.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

moodlymoodlymoo,

To be fair, it is not outta the question that teams have inquired or we called gauging interest.

Just sayin' that maybe Shanahan is telling the truth, which if he is, then the media is creating drama that isn't there.

If we do trade Haynesworth, I promise you the other team got most, if not all the value. I'm calling the Haynesworth trade rumors bogus because of this. I think Shanny is smart enough to tell non-serious low ball offers to fucc off.

I'm in the keep Haynesworth crowd. Hence my emotional frustation!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

you really think the 'skins haven't had serious discussions with other teams about trading AH?

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse
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It's possible, sure. Anything is possible. But the more relevant question is, 'has JR reported said discussions accurately?' So far he's Oh-fer. And more to my previous post, not only has he missed on these rumors, but he has failed to deliver actual news, like, oh, our division rival trading us their Pro Bowl QB. I mean, if he was 50%, then you might be able to say, 'ok well that deal fell through because it didn't happen'. But deals that actually happen are surfacing on other news sources first, so where's the confirmation that these 'inside sources' are worth a hill of beans?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

agree with edvar.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

F the media for how they treat Portis and Haynesworth!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 5:54 PM

Well said.....

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm in the keep Haynesworth crowd. Hence my emotional frustation!

Posted by: Vicc | April 23, 2010 6:27 PM

understood... I want to keep him dearly *if* he gets with the program and buys into the system. my impression is that he's not playing nice with the herd, and boss bull would just as soon load the catapult.

night all. seems like the clock ran out on AH.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Soooooo... how long 'til our next pick?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Have you all forgotten actually watching FA last year? Mr " I've fallen and I can't get up"? Now he's basically said to the team I'm gonna do whatever the F I want. I can't stand it.

I'm just waiting for CP to start his annual no-show, as well.

Bruce? Find a way to jettison these losers. Team cohesiveness will improve.

Posted by: bostskin | April 23, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora reported this afternoon that Haynesworth would be moved today, likely to Tennessee in exchange for a third-round draft pick in tonight's draft. But Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt used language just as strong as Shanahan's.

That shows what a dumba$$ JLC is, so if it doesn't happen and it won't he will say tomorrow that it will happen today for a 4th rounder.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

i saw ah squash b jacobs.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Wait...there are rumors that Haynesworth is to be traded?!?!?!?

Posted by: Rod5 | April 23, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 6:28 PM

durn it Matt! just tried to sign off. but here's my take... it's not a quantitative science where you can run controlled experiments and assign definitive probabilities. so I'm uncomfortable judging erstwhile reporting by that type of metric. we know that the media have their own agendas, likewise with teams, etc. the fun part is trying to sort through the noise and find the signal. I'm not willing to attach much signal to specific predictions, but the general vibe was that there were various discussions about a trade. and I think that's a pretty reasonable conclusion, no more or less.

night for real.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

What is fat albert's problem? sure the 3-4 isn't ideal for him, but so what? this is snyder's fault. you pay somebody like haynesworth so much money that they think they run the team.

Posted by: nadeemsx | April 23, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Eagles picked up S Nate Allen with the pick we traded for McNabb... I'm thinking a veteran QB might be better than a slow S.

Posted by: siris | April 23, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

After all the talk about Haynesworth being moved, I'm bummed they're not trading him for some picks. Maybe because i just worry about him causing distractions! But if we're going to keep him, he better be worth it!

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Posted by: Steveo11 | April 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

What's interesting is that I have yet to hear Albert Haynesworth say anything negative about this new regime...the last I heard him say is that, "I'll do whatever they want me to do."

...his not being there does say something but Landy, and Taylor didn't come either and Sean Taylor bought the wood though.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

j reid--how about some inside info from ah himself, in his own words.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Im hearing rumors that the Saints first round pick Patrick Robinson and their tackle Jamaal Brown will go to the Redskins for Haynesworth..

Im wondering when will RM,JC,OR AC get traded or will we just keep them

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

j reid--how about some inside info from ah himself, in his own words.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:53 PM |

AH wont talk to JR or Jlac, because of all the false rumors.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

bostskin, I watched Albert play last season, and I'd aver that too much was made of his bad moments and not enough of his good moments, which as I recall were many.

He was our best friggin' defensive player! He played more downs than any other D lineman on our team, I think. He made some monster stops on critical downs. Andre and Rak got double-digit sacks thanks to his gobbling up O linemen. What the F do you want from the guy? Want him to show up for an optional minicamp? I sure don't.

Sheesh... I wasn't in any hurry to get rid of this dude, and if he's not traded I'll be happy. Shanahan and Haslett certainly have a better chance of figuring out this situation and making it work than Zorn and Blache.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

j reid--how about some inside info from ah himself, in his own words.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:53 PM

...but only after he's been given some truth serum. Do you really believe he's going to give Jason Reid a lot of juicy quotes? Who do you think he is, Rock Cartwright? Carlos Rogers?

Posted by: League-Source | April 23, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

...but only after he's been given some truth serum. Do you really believe he's going to give Jason Reid a lot of juicy quotes? Who do you think he is, Rock Cartwright? Carlos Rogers?

Posted by: League-Source | April 23, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse
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Or *gulp* Shawn Shweez-um?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 23, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

AH wont talk to JR or Jlac, because of all the false rumors.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 |

Plus they're both pricks

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

AH wont talk to JR or Jlac, because of all the false rumors.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1

Speaking of false rumors, you got anything to back this statement up, Happy Trucker, or are you just flingin' poo here?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody heard? Is Al Davis in a coma?

All of their picks make sense and no big splash.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"No, it's not going to happen....Albert Haynesworth will not be traded," Shanahan said.

Translation : "noone will offer anything but insultingly low-ball offers for him & we aint gonna to just give him away" ....... And that's fine, maybe even for the best, 'cause they SHOULDN'T just give him away & the guy CAN be a difference maker on defense .... I had dreams of draft-pick-sugar-plums dancing in my head too, but lets face it the rebuilding will take more that 1 year anyway ,so will just have to be a liiitle bit more patient ..

Posted by: RoidRage | April 23, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

This "AH" character ties up half an offensive line when he is in play-He is a unique player that doesn't fit the usual guidelines for player management, like other uniquely talented players in history...

Posted by: frak | April 23, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Nate,
Your points are well taken. The whole laying there on the ground thing until he caught his breath was lame, though, you have to admit. Add to this the almost inevitable locker room negativity caused by setting himself apart from the rest of the players, and you have an untenable situation.

The new regime at Ashburn has been a total breath of fresh air. I'm all for purging what remains of the old one. Not at any cost, mind you, but the team's mental health as a whole has to be considered.

Posted by: bostskin | April 23, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see some of the guys announcing the picks -- Jim Brown, Floyd Little -- and the highlight is that suit that Ray Lewis showed up in. Where can I get me one of those? Hoping to see Chris Samuels out there on the stage soon!

Posted by: League-Source | April 23, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

LaCan'tReporta fails again. So glad we only have to hear from that guy a few times a year. Hope Wise is the next guy hitting the highway.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | April 23, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

May not see Steve Young on draft coverage next year. Someone mentioned earlier that the panel seemed to be annoyed with him. They are definitely giving that bamma the silent treatment

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

May not see Steve Young on draft coverage next year. Someone mentioned earlier that the panel seemed to be annoyed with him. They are definitely giving that bamma the silent treatment

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 7:15 PM |

I was watching at dinner and I couldn't hear but it looked like him and Kiper were about to fight.

Not sure wh he is being such an a-hole.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't mean to pick on you, bostskin, nor do I mean to imply that Albert had no bad moments last season, just that they've been mentioned all out of proportion to the good moments.

In the wake of what seems to be a failed attempt to move him via trade, I hope the new regime is able to get things straightened out and get Albert to contribute even more this season.

Hail to 'em...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Clausen goes to Panthers!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of false rumors, you got anything to back this statement up, Happy Trucker, or are you just flingin' poo here?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 7:06 PM |

The IT gods ate my answer, so will try again.

The only thing I have read is what has been rreported by many on here. AH said most NT's are shorter and the he would play anywhere.

The majority of times when a player is rumored to be traded, you at lease get a tweet or fonecon with the player.

My common sense says that AH will not talk to either because of said rumors. JLC and JR have not had hardly anything good to say about AH since he been here.

P oo on the wall, maybe. Maybe some truth to it.

IMHO

HTTR

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Soooooo... how long 'til our next pick?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 23, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Wednesday!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

j reid--how about some inside info from ah himself, in his own woreds.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 6:53 PM |


JReid has been reduced to relying on the "inside" info of the former Redskins Insider who is no longer a Redskins Insider and never gets inside information about anything in the NFL.

That's pretty pathetic.

JReid, you've gotta step up you game, dude.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

CLausen to Carolina.

Well...there goes one of our key trade partners for JC.

I guess its Buffalo or backup...

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

1) Klausen to Panthers = JC is now worth maybe $4 (Zimbabwe) on the trade market. Oh well.

2) The reason for no trade offers for AH: He is a max 2 year rental. No one wants that. His salary spikes up but at a voidable point after 2011. Plus, they won't be playing football then during the lockout, except maybe the Arena variety. So you are a GM: bring in a highly talented, but hard to work with guy, for what is likely 1 year? Only if you are (truly) 1 player away, and not many GMs have that viewpoint.

zornskins

Posted by: zornskins2 | April 23, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody heard? Is Al Davis in a coma?

All of their picks make sense and no big splash.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 |

LOL...that funny...

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Since we are apparently keeping Haynesworth- where will he play? Not talking about when he's on the cart being removed from the field or when he is on the sideline sucking down oxygen. How will they use him since he's committed to not being a nose guy? Any comments?

Posted by: johnnyreds | April 23, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Hate to break it to you but JC had no trade value anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Since we are apparently keeping Haynesworth- where will he play? Not talking about when he's on the cart being removed from the field or when he is on the sideline sucking down oxygen. How will they use him since he's committed to not being a nose guy? Any comments?

Posted by: johnnyreds | April 23, 2010 7:29 PM |

He will play NT in the 3-4, he will play DE in the 3-4, he will play DT when they use a 4-3 and he will play DE when they use a 4-3. Like he said he will play wherever they tell him to play.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

49ers just wasted a pick on Taylor Mays. The guy is great on paper, but on the field, he's a bum. Can't tackle, can't cover.

OH, but he runs a 4.3 40!

I bet Usain Bolt would be a better ball player in 2 years.

Speed Kills. Look what it just did to the 49ers defense.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 23, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Gerhart to the Vikings, he will be a good change of pace to Peterson.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Since we are apparently keeping Haynesworth- where will he play? Not talking about when he's on the cart being removed from the field or when he is on the sideline sucking down oxygen. How will they use him since he's committed to not being a nose guy? Any comments?

Posted by: johnnyreds

you should change your handle to JReid cause this is a bullsh!t post. BIG AL never said he was committed to not playing NT. He said he'll play anywhere they ask him to play.

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm OK with the McNabb deal but what is Shanahan's history as far as trading away draft picks vs using draft picks?

Posted by: johnnyreds | April 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm OK with the McNabb deal but what is Shanahan's history as far as trading away draft picks vs using draft picks?

Posted by: johnnyreds | April 23, 2010 7:40 PM |

Shanny has not traded picks often in the past.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

49ers just wasted a pick on Taylor Mays. The guy is great on paper, but on the field, he's a bum. Can't tackle, can't cover.

OH, but he runs a 4.3 40!

I bet Usain Bolt would be a better ball player in 2 years.

Speed Kills. Look what it just did to the 49ers defense.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 23, 2010 7:33 PM

Yeah, when his former coach picked Earl Thomas over Mays, you know something was wrong with this cat. He was not even the third safety drafted.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 23, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Kiper is in a daze.. Looks like he just lost his wife and best friend.
How bad did his Mock do??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 23, 2010 7:33 PM

Or maybe they got the steal of the draft. You or nobody else knows how his career will go. I think he will be fine. Speculating on any draft pick whether its Bradford or Dez Bryant is just that, speculating. Say what you want about the pick, the 49ers may have had the best draft so far in terms of addressing needs.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Kiper is in a daze.. Looks like he just lost his wife and best friend.
How bad did his Mock do??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 7:47 PM |

I actually think Steve Young got in his head, and he is shook.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Looks like JLC was wrong about the Haynesworth trade, but he made a pretty good call on whether Haynesworth would be a motivated football player for the Washington Redskins...just sayin'

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 23, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Jason Campbell apologists now?

...and don't gimme that "they should just release him cause they owe it to him" crap!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell, Brandon Spikes

Man, it would be nice to have some 2nd and 3rd rounders stashed away like NE and Philly...

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Looks like JLC was wrong about the Haynesworth trade, but he made a pretty good call on whether Haynesworth would be a motivated football player for the Washington Redskins...just sayin'

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 23, 2010 7:51 PM |

No he hasn't AH played more downs then any d-Linemen last year with the exception of Carter, he is also the only reason that two players on are team had 11 sacks.

He also is the reason we were so good in short yardage defense.

He is missing a voluntary workout it happens all over the league every year, it even happened when Gibbs was here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Kiper is in a daze.. Looks like he just lost his wife and best friend.
How bad did his Mock do??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 7:47 PM |

I actually think Steve Young got in his head, and he is shook.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:49 PM
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Young might of played the "STFU, you never played the game" card.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Kiper is in a daze.. Looks like he just lost his wife and best friend.
How bad did his Mock do??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 7:47 PM |

I actually think Steve Young got in his head, and he is shook.

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he is. I'm at the draft wearing a suit and someone came up to me frantically asking for my pocket square because Mel forgot his and needs it before he goes on tv. I said no.

Posted by: AdamCr | April 23, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Ravens picked up another huge NT.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Jared Veldheer (OT)
Height:6'8"
Weight:312 lbs.
Arm Length:33 in.
Hand Size:10 in.
Time:5.09
Bench:32 reps

If we stand pat till Saturday, this dude is reachable.

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Ravens picked up another huge NT.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse


According the Jason LaCanfora and Jason Reid, that is a clear indication that AH is getting traded to Bmore.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

JReid has been reduced to relying on the "inside" info of the former Redskins Insider who is no longer a Redskins Insider and never gets inside information about anything in the NFL.

That's pretty pathetic.

JReid, you've gotta step up you game, dude.

Posted by: p1funk

Do it Punk. Or Funk will have your job!

Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

According the Jason LaCanfora and Jason Reid, that is a clear indication that AH is getting traded to Bmore.

Posted by: p1funk |

Good one p1funk...you're the bomb!

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The NFL network coverage is so much better then ESPN, if you don't have it on your TV it is live on the website and looks great.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Jason Campbell apologists now?

...and don't gimme that "they should just release him cause they owe it to him" crap!

Posted by: rickyroge

I'm a JCampbell supporter and I'll give you this....cut Grossman and keep Campbell

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the rest of the NFL is calling the Redskin's bluff. Nobody wants to give us anything for Campbell and unless the teams wants to pay 3mil for a backup, they're going to have to cut him later.

So much for the idea that Campbell is: "well respected around the league", and "everyone knows he's a good QB if he got a real chance".

Patrick Ramsey PartII

Posted by: Jason10 | April 23, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Jared Veldheer (OT)
Height:6'8"
Weight:312 lbs.
Arm Length:33 in.
Hand Size:10 in.
Time:5.09
Bench:32 reps

If we stand pat till Saturday, this dude is reachable.

Posted by: abxinc |

from what school?....

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the rest of the NFL is calling the Redskin's bluff. Nobody wants to give us anything for Campbell and unless the teams wants to pay 3mil for a backup, they're going to have to cut him later.

So much for the idea that Campbell is: "well respected around the league", and "everyone knows he's a good QB if he got a real chance".

Patrick Ramsey PartII

Posted by: Jason10 | April 23, 2010 8:07 PM |

The team has paid 3mil for a backup QB for the last 3 years, it's an uncapped year 3mil is nothing.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Day two of the draft and the Redskins FO is still on the ball.

Day 1. Draft starting LT. Begin Building O line dominance.

Day 2. Keep BEST defensive player instead of foolishly trading him. Maintain the foundation for D line dominance.

It all starts up front on the lines. Excellent work.

Posted by: edvar

DAY TWO ADDENDUM:

Sit back and watch Giants, Philly, Dallas, NE, Balt. Denver et al improve themselves while you play Canasta in the "War" Room. Occasionally pause to slap self in forehead.

Remember to send Bundt cake to "BEST defensive Player" and Bouquet of Posies along with card begging him to reconsider and please please PRETTY please show up at camp.

Make another call around league reducing trade request for Campbell to 2011 8th rounder and a bucket of range balls.

Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I hope everyone gives Ivan Carter grief when it turns out that Donovan McNabb IS an upgrade over Jason Campbell. Every time I turn on WPL (not very often), he is saying that he doesn't think Donovan is an upgrade.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Don' think anyone expects Campbell to be moved until after the draft.

Posted by: bostskin | April 23, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I hope everyone gives Ivan Carter grief when it turns out that Donovan McNabb IS an upgrade over Jason Campbell. Every time I turn on WPL (not very often), he is saying that he doesn't think Donovan is an upgrade.

Posted by: Jason10

Who the f*ck is Ivan Carter?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 23, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Have you all forgotten actually watching FA last year? Mr " I've fallen and I can't get up"? Now he's basically said to the team I'm gonna do whatever the F I want. I can't stand it.

I'm just waiting for CP to start his annual no-show, as well.

Bruce? Find a way to jettison these losers. Team cohesiveness will improve.
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I think a lot of posters here actually did not watch FA last year. I clearly remember watching a game where the commentator was saying how ALBERT HAYNESWORTH was on the bench sucking on oxygen as the play was going on, the QB was sacked on this play and as the players got of the ground it was AH who sacked the QB. I still have not figured out how he was on the bench and sacked the QB all on the same play. I could care less how much he rolls around on the ground, sucks oxygen gets carted off the field, He comes back the very next play and makes a great play. I don't care if the Chief himself drags him of the field, he comes right back and makes a good play.
The stats show he's in for as many plays as anyone else in the NFL. Yes he should come in for the mini camp but he did not. Get over it, let's see what the man does before we slam him. To trade him for a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be as dumb as Vinny. As for CP he may say dumb things at times but so what, when he is not hurt he gains yards as well as being the best pass blocker the team has had for the last few years. Some of the things he has said have been true, the coaching has been stupid and the line is bad. They fired the coach and there trying to build a line. Must have been some truth to what he was saying. I think some of you are paid by the post. I just care what these people do on Sundays when the Skins play outside of that as long as there not killing someone stealing something from you or me what difference does it make. They are people that do dumb things and make mistakes just like anyone else. They just have more money but they are people and I'm sure they do good things in there life also like everyone else.

Posted by: tcparrish1 | April 23, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Don' think anyone expects Campbell to be moved until after the draft.

Posted by: bostskin | April 23, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse


Don't think anyone expects Campbell to be moved. Period.

Other teams out there are happy to pick him up for free to be their 3rd stringer after this season rather than have to give something up for him and pay him $3mill to throw checkdowns.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

The teams are waiting to see if DM5 go down for a game and see if JC can come in and actually win a game on his shoulders in the last 2-4 min of the 4th qtr.

If he can then there will be a play for him, if he doesn't/can't then they just let him go next year.

It's part of the business side of it. For QB's, it's win and get contract and game balls with headlines. If your on a losing team and you had chances to win but couldn't get the job done you become maybe someones backup somewhere.

Its just the business side of the game.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Spikes to NE.

He would have looked nice in our new 3-4 next to Fletch...

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tcparrish1 | April 23, 2010 8:21 PM

if you write any more bullsh!t like this again..i'll report you to the WaPO as being abusive...keep this crap to youself..we're in draft mode now and all that hate on AH and CP is passe..or if you will played-out!

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I said yesterday I didn't think we would have anyone get traded in the 72 hours in question and I still believe that. Just no reason to give up picks for players this year unless its a fire sale and I don't think BA & MS are gonna give guys away.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tcparrish1 | April 23, 2010 8:21 PM

if you write any more bullsh!t like this again..i'll report you to the WaPO as being abusive...keep this crap to youself..we're in draft mode now and all that hate on AH and CP is passe..or if you will played-out!

Posted by: jcnjcnj |

sorry tcparrish...i mis-read the post..now i see you were straighten another guy...my bad

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Charles Brown goes to Saints.

Does this make Jamaal Brown even more available?? I'd have to think so...could play out well for the Skins.

Bruce Campbell STILL available going into the 3rd round...how did we waste out 3rd rounder again???

It'll be interesting to see if B.Campbell gets past the Lions - doubt it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Since no picks...I've resorted to watching "Babe" with my daughter...it's cool though

Thanks Vinny!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Campbell isn't going to find a new home easily. Most teams are already invested in a QB, even if Campbell is better.

But here is the real issue. Say you trade for Campbell and he has a great year. He an unrestricted FA. So its a 1 year deal and he's gone. Say you trade for him and he has a bad year. Then why'd you trade for him in the first place?

Kind of a no-win deal.

Campbell is a good QB, but he hasn't proven he's worth a multi-year deal. The number of 1 year stops is very limited.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell STILL available going into the 3rd round...how did we waste out 3rd rounder again???

Posted by: p1funk

it wasn't wasted..Jarmon is our 3rd round pick...he'll be a beast..book it

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Now now, Jeremy Jarmon may turn out to be a good third round pick. Wouldn't call it a waste.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Could it be????

Bruce Campbell,Veldheer, or Charles Brown falling to us in the 4th round???

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

OT tony washington: abilene christian 6'6 310lbs may be there in the 4th round for washington from small school has a mean streak and quick off the ball.

Posted by: wathu19 | April 23, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Veldheer just got picked by the Raiders

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is a good QB, but he hasn't proven he's worth a multi-year deal. The number of 1 year stops is very limited.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM |

Your pretty thoughtful, so heres my question.

If JC traded: His stats from last year pretty good, just very few wins.

What would you think he has to have to it be considered a good year?

I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Tx

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Thought B Campbell would to the Raiders with that last pick.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

No love for Campbell, Bruce or Jason.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell,Veldheer, or Charles Brown falling to us in the 4th round???

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 8:47 PM |

Brown has been gone and Veldheer was just picked so it might be Campbell.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Jason Campbell apologists now?

...and don't gimme that "they should just release him cause they owe it to him" crap!

Posted by: rickyroge

I'm a JCampbell supporter and I'll give you this....cut Grossman and keep Campbell

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

OK Jason Campbell SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can not believe how so many Redskin fans are completely in denial about this guy. Ok... he is a good guy...i agree i met the guy...he signed a mini helmet for me...had a good conversation...Very nice guy...handled himself great with trade rumors and such...OK we get it! But he is just not a very good QB. Film does not lie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Can we finally move on from talking about this guy????

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Jared Veldheer (OT)
Height:6'8"
Weight:312 lbs.
Arm Length:33 in.
Hand Size:10 in.
Time:5.09
Bench:32 reps

If we stand pat till Saturday, this dude is reachable.

Posted by: abxinc |

from what school?....

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:08 PM


Sorry, gone to the Raiders@3rd.

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Charles Brown goes to Saints.

Does this make Jamaal Brown even more available?? I'd have to think so...could play out well for the Skins.

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 8:33 PM


I'd like to think so...but I doubt any of our remaining picks are high enough to make them pull the trigger. Unless they'll take some of our scraps off our hands...gotta figure Rocky Mac and/or Landry would help 'em out, especially since those are some of Greggggg's picks.

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

DAY TWO ADDENDUM:

Sit back and watch Giants, Philly, Dallas, NE, Balt. Denver et al improve themselves while you play Canasta in the "War" Room. Occasionally pause to slap self in forehead.

Remember to send Bundt cake to "BEST defensive Player" and Bouquet of Posies along with card begging him to reconsider and please please PRETTY please show up at camp.

Make another call around league reducing trade request for Campbell to 2011 8th rounder and a bucket of range balls.

Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 8:12 PM


Well, I see somebody peed in Corks strained beets again. Probably did it himself and didn't notice...

Canasta? Blow it out your bung hole smart guy. Only a crusty old fart like you would even know what that is. I was talking about not making mistakes and making the best of what we had instead of pointing enviously at other teams. I wish we had more picks as well, but on this day, they did the right thing.

Now go change your bag.

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow...the JC debate on draft day. Unbelieveable...

Question: anyone know why we picked ahead of the Chiefs in the 1st round, yet pick AFTER them in every subsequent round? WTF?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"Charles Brown goes to Saints."


His agent, Linus Van Pelt, is trying to workout a very good deal where Lucy will be required to hold both his balls prior to his attempts at kicking them.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

OK Jason Campbell SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can not believe how so many Redskin fans are completely in denial about this guy. Ok... he is a good guy...i agree i met the guy...he signed a mini helmet for me...had a good conversation...Very nice guy...handled himself great with trade rumors and such...OK we get it! But he is just not a very good QB. Film does not lie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Can we finally move on from talking about this guy????

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 8:50 PM

are you Todd Collins?

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Question: anyone know why we picked ahead of the Chiefs in the 1st round, yet pick AFTER them in every subsequent round? WTF?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:56 PM |

same win/loss record. whoever picks first in 1st rd, picks second in 2nd rd, etc. etc.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Th Colts have a new LB, Pat Angerer.

This young man out of Iowa may or may not succeed in the NFL, but immediately has name recognition in the NFL.

Angerer... Pat...

Love it.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow...the JC debate on draft day. Unbelieveable...

Question: anyone know why we picked ahead of the Chiefs in the 1st round, yet pick AFTER them in every subsequent round? WTF?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:56 PM |

We swapped with KC in each round for some reason, I mean if we would have picked in each round we would have swapped.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Question: anyone know why we picked ahead of the Chiefs in the 1st round, yet pick AFTER them in every subsequent round? WTF?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:56 PM

Actually they rotate the picks. Redskins ahead in rd 1, chiefs ahead in 2nd, skins in 3rd, chiefs in 4th, ect.

In 5th rd, rams using our pick are ahead of kc.

Due to same record.

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 23, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

My reflections on 2nd and first half of the third round and "rebuilding" year ... you got nothing, you get nothing. Gotta suck it up. This is our all star roster. For this year anyway.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, clearly, Titans wanted the 1st round pick in exchange for AH, so of course it's off the table.

Posted by: Xlnt | April 23, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

OK Jason Campbell SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can not believe how so many Redskin fans are completely in denial about this guy. Ok... he is a good guy...i agree i met the guy...he signed a mini helmet for me...had a good conversation...Very nice guy...handled himself great with trade rumors and such...OK we get it! But he is just not a very good QB. Film does not lie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Can we finally move on from talking about this guy????

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 8:50 PM

are you Todd Collins?

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

no I'm not but todd collins is a better Qb than JC and he is a career back up!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Since no picks...I've resorted to watching "Babe" with my daughter...it's cool though

Thanks Vinny!

Posted by: rickyroge | April 23, 2010 8:33 PM

urgh... reluctantly moves self from trough (despite previous misgivings and having returned), then realizes it's about time to lie down with the calves and finish the Hardy Boys "House on the Cliff". only 56 more books to go before we complete the canon.

absence of trades today is interesting. hope we find a place for AH as a team player, either here or elsewhere. no thanks to Vinny.

nighty night for real... for real.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 23, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow...the JC debate on draft day. Unbelieveable...

Question: anyone know why we picked ahead of the Chiefs in the 1st round, yet pick AFTER them in every subsequent round? WTF?

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 8:56 PM |

Brown...i'm not debating JC...I'm with you i was responding to others still talking and defending the guy ...I wrote "can we move on?"

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

The moment of truth right now

Posted by: jctichen | April 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Gerhart was a great pick by the Vikes, and Carolina getting Cluasen mid-second was a good move for them as well. Those guys helped themselves tonight.

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Campbell is a good QB, but he hasn't proven he's worth a multi-year deal. The number of 1 year stops is very limited.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM |

Your pretty thoughtful, so heres my question.

If JC traded: His stats from last year pretty good, just very few wins.

What would you think he has to have to it be considered a good year?

I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Tx

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | April 23, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Our offensive line is better, but only marginally -- initially.

Trench Williams will be cutting his teeth early and often as the new starting left tackle.

Jason Campbell, if he remains a Redskin, may not be the backup for long.

As one who has JC's best interests at heart, I'm divided. Part of me wants to see him start fresh with another team and be given a legitimate chance to be a starting QB, and the other part of me says he has already had that chance in Washington...

and that he is, what amounts to, a good 2nd string QB,

and has been one all along.

I doubt whether he ever

should have been picked as high as he was.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

fart. oh well . . .

Posted by: Corvis777 | April 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

PFT's Mike Florio:
Redskins fan and chief blog fisherman Beantown Greg has been traded to Oakland for a ham sandwich and a Diet Coke. More to come.

Posted by: hokiesmokie | April 23, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Since when does the rotation thing happen? I thought there was a tie-breaker that determined the order once and for all?

I mean, they beat us head to head. We should be picking ahead of them in ALL rounds. It just strikes me as weird that we go ahead of them in the 1st and 5th rounds and everywhere else (sans the 3rd round where there is no pick at all for us) they go ahead. IDK...

Posted by: brownwood26 | April 23, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

So what I'm sayin' is that I think McNabb goes down with an injury at some point next season.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"Don' think anyone expects Campbell to be moved until after the draft.Posted by: bostskin"

It does happen, but not very often. Veteran QBs get traded around camp time, because somebody's QB isn't all the way back from injury, or when some coach realizes how really awful his backups are. The draft, on the other hand, is a period of unwarranted optimism, when everybody's players look way better than they will turn out to be...

Posted by: Samson151 | April 23, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Could it be???

Bruce Campbell falling to us in the 4th???

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins finished at 4-12, tied with the Kansas City Chiefs for the fourth-worst record in the NFL. Because the Redskins played a more difficult strength of schedule than Kansas City, they select fourth and the Chiefs select fifth.

In each subsequent round, the Redskins and Chiefs will alternate positions. This means that the Chiefs have the fourth pick and the Redskins have the fifth pick in the second round.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

While awaiting return calls from the other 31 teams about a Haynesworth or Jason Campbell trade, Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen are resorting to calling each other on their phones to make sure they are still working..
And Dan is hiding in his office knowing that the worm has turned and Shanny and Bruce are only now fully understanding the detritus left behind by the legacy of Vinny and Danny.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

tcparrish1, Tell us how you really feel. To laid back man. WOW!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | April 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Gotta suck it up. This is our all star roster. For this year anyway.

Yep. They'll grab some more second-tier FAs but this is basically it. Unless they have a major injury forcing a trade.

If coaching was a major part of their problem last year, we'll see it exposed this year.

Let's hope so.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Tony Washington OT isn't that the registered sex offender. I think he and his sister agreed to have sex when they were young. That's crazy because he's a registered sex offender and she is not??? But if all checks out with since that incident I would take him in round 5.

Posted by: robbkels | April 23, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

So what I'm sayin' is that I think McNabb goes down with an injury at some point next season.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:15 PM |

Thanks,

I wasn't sure what you were saying, McNabb will be fine he is no more likely to get hurt playing for the Skins then JC would be.

McNabb gets rid of the ball 100 times faster then JC, and knows how to move in the pocket to bye time unlike JC.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"So what I'm sayin' is that I think McNabb goes down with an injury at some point next season."

* * *

So what I am saying is probably 25% of the teams in the league will lose their starting QB for a minimum of one game next year. The possibility that a guy will get hurt is not a reason not to trade for him, especially when he is a 5 time pro bowler, including last year, with several good years ahead of him.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Tony Washington OT, isn't that the registered sex offender. I think he and his sister agreed to have sex when they were young. That's crazy because he's a registered sex offender and she is not??? But if all checks out with him since that incident I would take him in round 5, he may go undrafted due to that.

Posted by: robbkels | April 23, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Considering we now have McNabb as our starting QB, if we are more successful next season, we won't be able to attribute that change to coaching alone.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Could it be???

Bruce Campbell falling to us in the 4th???

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 9:17 PM

I guess the GM's and scouts looked at his game films...

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be a lot of talk here about the Skin picking another OT. Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?

Posted by: BT23 | April 23, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Considering we now have McNabb as our starting QB, if we are more successful next season, we won't be able to attribute that change to coaching alone.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:22 PM |

Who cares the coaching was better the minute Shanny took the job, hell Kyle would be a better head coach then Zorn.

QB pla is not the only way to have coaching improvement, you will see a major upgrade in coaching believe me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Considering we now have McNabb as our starting QB, if we are more successful next season, we won't be able to attribute that change to coaching alone.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:22 PM

My money would be on the change in culture. One leader, one vision, one voice.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Adam_Schefter RT @jeffduncantp: GM Mickey Loomis said the Saints never had a conversation with the Redskins about DT Albert Haynesworth. #nfldraft 3 minutes ago

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be a lot of talk here about the Skin picking another OT. Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?

Posted by: BT23 | April 23, 2010 9:24 PM |

ILB, S, OL depends on who's available.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

True, players do get injured.

Unless their name is London Fletcher.

but one thing JC has proven, is that he's abundantly capable of withstanding a beating, and getting up more often than not.

McNabb has been shown to be more injury prone, and is older, and less mobile than JC.

and he will need to get rid of the ball pretty darn quick, at least until our OL gels, which won't start to happen until the second half of the season.

so there

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

DLineman from UK goes to ATL in mid 3rd. Have to think Jarmon was the better player and would have gone higher if he had stayed around for another year. That tells me that taking him in the supplemental last year for this year's third round pick was a good deal (that, and the fact that he looked like he could play a bit this past season).

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"Bruce Campbell falling to us in the 4th?"


And if we take him, he could wear Jason Campbell's jersey.

#17 gets the dyslexic treatment and is turned to #71.

And of course, you don't have to change the name, just the hopes for the player in the new uniform.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

only 19 more picks before the skins next pick...

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 23, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

McNabb has been shown to be more injury prone, and is older, and less mobile than JC.

and he will need to get rid of the ball pretty darn quick, at least until our OL gels, which won't start to happen until the second half of the season.

so there

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:28 PM |

McNabb has missed 1 more game the last 3 years then Campbell, and he throws the ball way more.

McNabb is a veteran and knows how to move away from pressure unlike JC.

You have no idea when the o-line will gel unless you have a crystal ball.

so there

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Canasta? Blow it out your bung hole smart guy. Only a crusty old fart like you would even know what that is. I was talking about not making mistakes and making the best of what we had instead of pointing enviously at other teams. I wish we had more picks as well, but on this day, they did the right thing.

Now go change your bag.

Posted by: edvar |

See, I REALLY don't think the Redskins brain trust is playing canasta. Or bridge or texas Hold 'em. Just a way of pointing out how ridiculous your stroll Pollyannaville is here....

OOOOH, 'skins got no draft picks in these rounds. That's a GOOD thing!!! Huzzah! Huzzah! Way to go brain trust!

"Pointing out enviously at other teams" What, you going to Bible school with Tebow?

It's not a sin to feel envy when I see the Redskins get outfoxed year after year by scores of other NFL teams. This year is no different. Right now they have one potentially good drafted player, while others have improved by two or three or more--teams that were better than the 'skins to start.

I want good young player and lots of 'em. Not tired interrum help that just stretches out and prolongs the mediocrity.

As for: "Blow it out your bung hole" and "go change your bag."

The level of insults here really sucks.


Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

"Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?"


I'd take the right tackle with the best grade in round 4 and best linebacker availiable in round 5.

The last pick?: a wide receiver or cornerback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Guess you told me Chia. I must have dreamed that three years ago as a younger QB Campbell was hurt and Todd Collins replaced him and lead the team to the playoffs. Sorry, but I just can't get on board with the notion that we as fans, or the new front office, or the players or the owner should be fine with fielding a crappy team with a mediocre-at-best QB next year so the team can lose another 12 games, all in the name of preserving a second round pick that was used by the Eagles on the fourth best safety in the draft.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Im still hoping we can somehow get a pick for Campbell and how its looking Bruce Campbell may be our next selection but I also like the linebacker from Penn State

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 23, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?"

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:37 PM

Best athlete available. Special teams in this season. Compete for a position next season (barring injuries, in which case, he has to compete this season).

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

"QB pla is not the only way to have coaching improvement, you will see a major upgrade in coaching believe me."

Improved offensive play in terms of a higher completion rate in the passing game, and a running game that's power to the right, stretch to the left.

I like the idea of a Portis/Parker tandem.

Then there is the possibility of two-tight end sets or 3-4 wide with Davis flexed like Witten or Clark.

We will score and defend.

But given the tough schedule, we'll have to.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

"Bruce Campbell falling to us in the 4th?"


And if we take him, he could wear Jason Campbell's jersey.

#17 gets the dyslexic treatment and is turned to #71.

And of course, you don't have to change the name, just the hopes for the player in the new uniform.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:31 PM


Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

"Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?"

* * *

Biggest need on the list is probably LB. Would they go for someone like Shipley from TX if he falls to the 4th and they don't want to go OL? That said, I would think they would go OL.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

We will score and defend.

They'll score more but I have absolutely no idea how this defense will perform.

Zilch.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 23, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

are you Todd Collins?

Posted by: jcnjcnj | April 23, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

no I'm not, but todd collins is a better Qb than JC and he is a career back up!

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 9:03 PM
=======++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


have to agree with Leevi...

(this should flush out the JC apologists now in hiding)...

future worthless trivia question..

Only 2 QBs in the Redskin's history have started more than one game in a season and have achieved a 100 or more final QB rating...

Sammy Baugh in 1945 with a 109 rating in 8 games..(albeit diluted opposition during WWII).


And good old creaky, career backup, Todd Collins in 2007, with a 106.4 rating in 4 games.. A QB that previously hadn't started a game in a decade, went 4-0 against 3 playoff teams (vikes/pokes/Gints) one being an eventual SB winner. And those end of season games were all must wins for those teams.. And TC did it with the same crappy "unfair" Offensive Line and WRs that the previous QB was in a 0-4 losing skid.

not hating..jus saying..

(first JC post in 3 weeks...why pile on...he's gone).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

"Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?"

* * *

Joe Jacoby was ignored by every team in the draft several more times over that that and he turned out okay. Not saying Campbell is Jacoby, but being passed over does not say all that much, IMO.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"Assuming they are looking for upgrades at other positions, who do you think the pick is? OLB, ILB, QB, S?"


I'd take the right tackle with the best grade in round 4 and best linebacker availiable in round 5.

The last pick?: a wide receiver or cornerback.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:37 PM


Gotta go with Moe on this one.

Round 4 = Kyle Calloway from Iowa or Marshal Newhouse from TCU

Round 5 I might be tempted to go DB on this with Parish Cox (C) or Morgan Burnett (FS)

Cox is immature and brash and really needs to grow up, but one hell of a talent. I'm hoping a guy like that could benefit from being in Shanny's system.

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

***Pucking annoying post***

Damn you, Caps, proving me right like that.

***End pucking annoying post***

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 23, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 9:47 PM |

For the same reason all teams ignored Joe Montana 2 times, Tom Brady 5 times, Terrell Davis 5 times, Joe Jacoby 12 times, Marques Colston 6 times, shall I go on or do you get the point.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Never mind, Burnett is already off the board.

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Im still hoping we can somehow get a pick for Campbell and how its looking Bruce Campbell may be our next selection but I also like the linebacker from Penn State

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 23, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Im still hoping we can somehow get a pick for Campbell and how its looking Bruce Campbell may be our next selection but I also like the linebacker from Penn State

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 23, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I got say, it hurts watching some of these guys fall off the board ... unreachable ... these free safeties, Koa Misi, Navarro Bowman, its tough. This must be 'rebuilding' or something. It sucks

Tomorrow ... Kam Chancellor, some linebackers.

COME THROUGH FOR US MARROCCO BROWN!

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell, Ricky Sapp, Everson Griffin

If any of them is on the board when we pick then we get em...

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

SkinsneedaGM not following you. Are you saying Todd Collins is the second best Redskin's QB ever?

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The level of insults here really sucks.

Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse


Last time I saw a face like yours, it had antlers and was mounted to a wall

Your mom's got a short leg and they call her 'Hip-hop'

I called you're boyfriend gay and he hit me with his purse

What's that ugly thing growing out of your neck? Oh, it's your head

Your mom's so fat she fell in love and broke it

don't go away mad, just go away

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 23, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Jacoby Ford is still available ... a super fast WR who can return punts and kicks. HANG ON! I'm going through the stages of death and dying.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell, Ricky Sapp, Everson Griffin

If any of them is on the board when we pick then we get em...

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 9:54

Would the Skins trade Rocky for a 4th rounder? Seems like there will be some decent talent that has been pushed down to that round.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

"Bruce Campbell falling to us in the 4th?"


And if we take him, he could wear Jason Campbell's jersey.

#17 gets the dyslexic treatment and is turned to #71.

And of course, you don't have to change the name, just the hopes for the player in the new uniform.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 23, 2010 9:31 PM


Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

If AH is traded, it should be for a 1st rounder, since this years draft is basically over. If you want a player this year, you should pay dearly if using next years picks.

Posted by: Ireland2 | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

***Pucking annoying post***

Damn you, Caps, proving me right like that.

***End pucking annoying post***

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 23, 2010 9:52 PM

2-1. It was brutal, hard fought, not a ton of shots on goal. Phukcing Habitantes.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

For those needing a laugh, just pulled this from WalterFootball under the prediction that Campbell would be picked 8th overall this year.

"Possible trade alert. Jason La Canfora is reporting that the Raiders and Steelers are engaged in trade talks involving Ben Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh presumably would obtain this pick and Nnamdi Asomugha for Big Ben, and would use this selection on Jimmy Clausen."

Posted by: BT23 | April 23, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

3rd round still not completed but 30 draft day trades so far.
And the Skins cant make a deal to move Haynesworth, Campbell, McIntosh, or Carter?? And JC is ranked in the middle of all starting NFL QBs for the last 4 years!!
I think the Skins are "Snyder blackballed".
My opinion of course, but most owners despise him for driving up player and coaches salaries.... and I think its showing.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM

Bruce Campbell is flawed. Google Mayock Bruce Campbell taking plays off.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Cork, I don't know where you are coming from on all this. I don't think we're even in the same conversation.

And by the way, "The level of insults here really sucks" is your comeback every time you get your azz handed to you on this blog (which is getting embarrassingly frequent these days)

I was just supporting picking an LT at #4 and not trading Haynesworth. If you have a problem with that, that's your issue.

I'm done with this. I feel like I'm beating up a midget...

Posted by: edvar | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

3rd round still not completed but 30 draft day trades so far.
And the Skins cant make a deal to move Haynesworth, Campbell, McIntosh, or Carter?? And JC is ranked in the middle of all starting NFL QBs for the last 4 years.. he is at least worth a 3rd round pick as a back-up!
I think the Skins are "Snyder blackballed".
My opinion of course, but most owners despise him for driving up player and coaches salaries.... and I think its showing.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins are "Snyder blackballed".

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM

Screw that. Victimhood is for no accounts. Snyder is not a victim. This is just a "market correction." If you have no picks in these rounds, you can't pick in these rounds. If you have players that other teams figure they can get later, they will get them later. Other teams don't want to be interrupted while they are drafting for the future. This is basic reality of the rules catching up. The piper must be paid eventually.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

That must suck to get invited to the draft and then not get picked until the end of the 3rd round.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Where's the incredible depth? That refrain is heard most every year. At this point you're just hoping you get the guy where the light bulb is going to come on.

Glenn Dorsey was my big bust prediction last year. Win. Another was Calvin Johnson. Loss? He has to find his way onto a better team.

Mayock's voice is toast. Dry toast.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 23, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

... most owners despise him for driving up player and coaches salaries ...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 10:03 PM

including The Owner of the SKins ... that's why every team unloaded the un-guaranteed over-priced, under-performing vets. No cap means no dead cap. Basic accounting rules. Nothing nefarious to see here folks. Move along.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

wow, cork you really are a bitter old man with a depressed view of the future--take a vacation.

Posted by: mohawk44 | April 23, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Saints take Charles Brown/OT/USC ... maybe Jammal Brown IS still available.

Posted by: dcsween | April 23, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

B Campbell still available at the end of the night. 4 more picks for him to fall and he could be ours. That would be pretty nice.

Posted by: manlius1 | April 23, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Man, Mike Johnson of Alabama (guard) would have been a nice safe pick. Skins need safe picks right now.

Yeah, not a sexy pick but he's going to be a solid guard for years.

Posted by: SteveMG | April 23, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

For those needing a laugh, just pulled this from WalterFootball under the prediction that Campbell would be picked 8th overall this year.

"Possible trade alert. Jason La Canfora is reporting that the Raiders and Steelers are engaged in trade talks involving Ben Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh presumably would obtain this pick and Nnamdi Asomugha for Big Ben, and would use this selection on Jimmy Clausen."

Posted by: BT23 | April 23, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but wasn't Clausen picked an hour ago by the Pathers??

Posted by: Ireland2 | April 23, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but wasn't Clausen picked an hour ago by the Pathers??

Posted by: Ireland2 | April 23, 2010 10:14 PM |

I think he was trying to be funny.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Ireland2 - this was pre-draft. thus, the statement that is was a prediction of the 8th draft pick.

Posted by: BT23 | April 23, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM


"Flawed"???

Are we talking about a football player or a product recall???

WTH do you mean by "flawed"??

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

That Roger Goodell, what a jokester! Bradford must be totally pissed.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/longstanding-leaguewide-practical-joke-culminates,17306/

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 23, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

George Selvie(possibly better than J.Pierre), Everson Griffin, Ricky Sapp, Eric Norwood, Bruce Campbell and possibly more are still on the board and can fit our team well...

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Getting Kiper was huge," Redskins general manager Bruce Allen told reporters. "If he doesn't put Bradford in his top five, there's no way we can get the kid to come to New York and watch him squirm in a new suit for three days."

"They got me pretty good," Bradford said. "I guess I won't be playing football anymore. Well, my shoulder is so SJKed up that I can't really throw anyway."

Posted by: RomoLongballs | April 23, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Plenty of talent w/ good value to be had in rd 4. Just to list a few:

J Ford -WR
C Wooten - DE
B Campbell - OT
E Griffn - DE/OLB
A Owusu-Ansah - CB/S
L Blount - RB
J McKnight - RB
C Mitchell - WR
C Thomas - DT

If Shanallen want to get rid of some players on the current roster for draft picks, this is the round to do it in.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

So we need to survive 4 picks in order to grab Bruce Campbell.

That would awesome to get a guy with a 1-2nd round grade in the 4th. He's sersiously atheltic, which is what we want in a zone-blocking tackle.

Also Selvish Capers is out there...anyone got a read on him?

Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

observations: If we can pick up Bruce Campbell in the 4th, then this will have been a surprising good draft, considering no 2nd and 3rd.

Clausen would have been available at our 2nd round pick. In 2 or 3 years from now, we'll see if McNabb was such as smart move or not.

Posted by: elderdave1 | April 23, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

McNabb has been shown to be more injury prone, and is older, and less mobile than JC.

and he will need to get rid of the ball pretty darn quick, at least until our OL gels, which won't start to happen until the second half of the season.

so there

Posted by: Chia_Pet | April 23, 2010 9:28 PM |

McNabb has missed 1 more game the last 3 years then Campbell, and he throws the ball way more.

McNabb is a veteran and knows how to move away from pressure unlike JC.

You have no idea when the o-line will gel unless you have a crystal ball.

so there

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I can't beleive that somebody is actually trying to compare JC to Mcnabb....OMG how funny is that...i won't try and compare...that's just a joke and a waste of time..i will just post a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Posted by: leevi98 | April 23, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I think we should trade back and try to get 2 4th round picks. Eagles has 4 4th round picks. There is still alot of talent out there...

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

If Shanallen want to get rid of some players on the current roster for draft picks, this is the round to do it in.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 10:21 PM |

Unfortunately, 31 other front offices know that as well.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

GET BRUCE CAMPBELL!!

Posted by: ga8085 | April 23, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Take Campbell and/or Griffin! Please! Both 1st round talents still available.

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 23, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh we don't need to trade back. We can just trade Campbell.

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

So far , so good for the Skins, but Seattle won Day One, the Chiefs Day Two...Plenty of solid RTs to pick from...

Posted by: frak | April 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know the name of the D.C. area hockey team that consistently chokes in the playoffs?

I think some blow-hard named "league-source" might be able to help you out.

Along with his but buddy Scrambell1973.

Still wondering what I'm talking about? Or did you think choking was only something you pay thai prostitutes to do?

Thanks.

Appreciate your enlightenment.

I like to call it "reality."

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

DAY TWO ADDENDUM:

Sit back and watch Giants, Philly, Dallas, NE, Balt. Denver et al improve themselves while you play Canasta in the "War" Room. Occasionally pause to slap self in forehead.

Remember to send Bundt cake to "BEST defensive Player" and Bouquet of Posies along with card begging him to reconsider and please please PRETTY please show up at camp.

Make another call around league reducing trade request for Campbell to 2011 8th rounder and a bucket of range balls.

Posted by: TheCork | April 23, 2010 8:12 PM

Acquiring McNabb upgraded us more than any other team in our division upgraded itself today.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 23, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

We upgraded more than any other team in the league when we went from Zorn to Shanahan.

McNabb, Williams, et al are just cake decorations.

We got 5 more wins by losing Zorn. He was not smart.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 23, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, 31 other front offices know that as well.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 10:30 PM

The one guy I see that is clearly a better option is Rocky. There really aren't than many 4-3 OLB that will grade for value now, so that's an option. Same will go for JC if they want to move him.

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

GET BRUCE CAMPBELL!!

Posted by: ga8085 | April 23, 2010 10:30 PM

I agree if he is still there take him and we have bookends for the next 10 years.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 23, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | April 23, 2010 10:39 PM

Rocky makes sense when you put it that way. Jason I think is worth a 4th round pick but I just feel teams are expecting us to be willing to take less for him and will wait to go after him.

Posted by: will_ga | April 23, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 23, 2010 10:32 PM


And we are still leaps and bounds behind every other team in our division. If you truly think that McNabb is the answer to our problems than you must be an eternal optimist or just plain delusional.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

It looks like we may not get anything for JC. It just goes to show that the media stirs up a lot of things. When they went looking for a QB last year everyone said we disrespected JC and if he was on a different team things would be different well it's obvious that that is not the case. Denver passed on him last year to take Orton. Carolina decided that Clausen was superior and even Cleveland felt he was not worth their lowest 3rd pick taking McCoy instead. Perhaps this will show JC that he has a lot of work to do to improve and he will be open to learning how to be a pro QB from Shanahan & Donovan.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 23, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Three rounds in, Bruce Campbell still waits
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2010 10:51 PM ET
Though the last man in the Green Room finally made his escape when the Bengals made cornerback Brandon Ghee the 96th pick in the draft, another guy who received plenty of round-one hype is still waiting to hear his name.

Maryland tackle Bruce Campbell generated eye-popping numbers at the Scouting Combine. Though it created buzz that he could be taken as high as the top ten, we were told that multiple teams had applied a round-four grade to Campbell.

We now need to change that. Most if not all teams have applied a round-four grade to the former Terp.

Campbell ran the 40-yard dash in 4.78 seconds, and bench-pressed 225 pounds 34 times in Indianapolis. But his game film reflects a lower level of football ability, and through three rounds no one was willing to ignore the warning signs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 23, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

And here is Jason LaVajayjay twitter...

Wow. surprise there. Pats called Griffin, but ended up not taking him. Maybe another trade is coming up. Interesting
about 1 hour ago via web

Griffin was one of the USC players to slide, but that fall is poised to end at the end of the third round here.
about 1 hour ago via web

Pats will be taking Everson Griffen with one of their upcoming picks. They have a few
about 1 hour ago via web

Posted by: ATLredskin | April 23, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

1> Bruce Campbell (tackle...enough said)
2> Joe McKnight (our rbs are so old and has no speed...including fast Willie)
3> Cam Thomas (true young 3-4 nose tackle...gives team versatility to trade Albert Haynesworth if necessary)
4> Ricky Sapp or Everett Griffen (Sapp works harder...Griffen is more talented...both can be pass rushing OLB in the 3-4)
5>Corey Wooten (6'6 270 lb d-end...ideal size and strength for a 3-4 d-end)

I do not think Bruce Campbell is getting farther than Minnesota who had a crappy beaten up OL at the end of last year. I think Joe Mcknight will bring a jolt of youth, athleticism, speed and ability to catch out the back field.

Posted by: merajc86 | April 23, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

If you truly think that McNabb is the answer to our problems than you must be an eternal optimist or just plain delusional.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 10:53 PM

Aren't those two traits pretty much requirements for liking this team?

Posted by: mack1 | April 23, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Looks like JLC was wrong about the Haynesworth trade, but he made a pretty good call on whether Haynesworth would be a motivated football player for the Washington Redskins...just sayin'

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 23, 2010 7:51 PM |

No he hasn't AH played more downs then any d-Linemen last year with the exception of Carter, he is also the only reason that two players on are team had 11 sacks.

He also is the reason we were so good in short yardage defense.

He is missing a voluntary workout it happens all over the league every year, it even happened when Gibbs was here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 23, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

No doubt Haynesworth can be a great player. Unfortunately, none of his playtime stats or impact last year is much evidence of what a truly motivated AH is capable of ($30 million??) Redskins 4-12 last year. It really boils down to where you think his head is at now...I believe it's obvious he's unhappy -- at least to the extent that he's a potential distraction. I hope everyone figures out how to make nice but is it really any more than contrariness among posters on RI that makes people think there isn't an issue between Shanahan and AH?

Posted by: Pepper5 | April 23, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Best of what's left based on our needs

Skelton, John QB 6'5" 243 Fordham
Pike, Tony QB 6'6" 223 Cincinnati
LeFevour, Dan QB 6'3" 230 Central Michigan

McKnight, Joe RB 5'11" 198 Southern Cal
Dwyer, Jonathan RB 5'11" 229 Georgia Tech
Dixon, Anthony RB 6'1" 233 Mississippi State
Blount, LeGarrette RB 6'0" 241 Oregon

Briscoe, Dezmon WR 6'2" 207 Kansas
Mitchell, Carlton WR 6'3" 215 South Florida
Gilyard, Mardy WR 6'0" 187 Cincinnati
Cooper, Riley WR 6'3" 222 Florida

Campbell, Bruce OT 6'6" 314 Maryland
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas
Washington, Tony OT 6'6" 311 Abilene Christian

Thomas, Cam DT 6'4" 330 North Carolina

Norwood, Eric LB 6'1" 245 South Carolina

Franks, Dominique CB 5'11" 194 Oklahoma
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi CB 6'0" 207 Indiana (PA)
Warren, Donovan CB 5'11" 193 Michigan

Chancellor, Kam FS 6'3" 231 Virginia Tech

not too much left on the defensive side of the ball

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

noonefromtampa..

no love for jevan snead?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

And we are still leaps and bounds behind every other team in our division. If you truly think that McNabb is the answer to our problems than you must be an eternal optimist or just plain delusional.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | April 23, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I have never said, or thought, that DM was the answer to all the 'Skins problems. But I continue to believe that he is a significant upgrade over JC and that this improvement at the single most important position upgrades us more than any other team in our division upgraded itself today.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 23, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

why all the love for Bruce Campbell?
Saw a video of him on ESPN.. he looks very light for the OLine? Does he come from a good OLine program??

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see Jonathan Dwyer be the pick. Wouldn't mind Bruce Campbell or one of the qb's either here. Blount wouldn't suck either. Nice list Tampa.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 23, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I think our pick will come down to one of these

Skelton, Dwyer, Capers, Thomas, Owusu-Ansah

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

noonefromtampa..

no love for jevan snead?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 11:27 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
the other QBs are better IMHO

Snead will go late 5 early 6

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see Jonathan Dwyer be the pick. Wouldn't mind Bruce Campbell or one of the qb's either here. Blount wouldn't suck either. Nice list Tampa.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 23, 2010 11:35 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks!

I don't think Campbell is going to be that good in the pros. He's another workout wonder that may or may not pan out. More often than not they don't pan out.

I really like LeFevour, but I didn't think Skelton would be around when we picked again. I would be happy with either as our #3 guy.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Campbell is going to be that good in the pros. He's another workout wonder that may or may not pan out. More often than not they don't pan out.

I really like LeFevour, but I didn't think Skelton would be around when we picked again. I would be happy with either as our #3 guy.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:46 PM

Shanahan likes mobile linemen and Campbell is not a gamble going in the 4th round.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 23, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I think after today's events one can reasonable assume the rest of the league doesn't think too highly of our touted trade bait. So be it. Put 'em back out on the field and let them compete.

Like to see Shanny come up with one of his patented late round running back pics and add a breakaway threat to our ground game.

Posted by: bones21 | April 23, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

There are several good RT prospects out there other than Campbell. There's also that G Petrus who tied the bench press record with 45 reps. I think he was the 4th rated guard behind Iputi, Asamogh, and Johnson. I say O line with our next pick, and I admit I would be excited if we used it on a fast slot WR or speed back who can return kicks. Dwyer would also be an intriguing pick; he would come in with a king sized chip on his shoulder and who knows, we may have a baby Riggo on our hands. The only way I would even THINK defense would be if a REAL FS who could actually be a quality centerfielder for us were available. And, God, please, NO QB!!!!

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 24, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Dwyer is one of those guys that take a few touches before he gets going. When he gets going he is a tank in fast forward.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 24, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I wish people would stop saying nobody is interested in our players because nobody offered decent picks for them. Hasn't anyone noticed, NOBODY is trading pics for players out there. Maybe it's a new trend, or maybe it's the deep draft, but all of the trading has involved exchanging draft picks. You can't tell me that NOBODY wants ANY of the top players out there on all of the teams whose names have been floated as trade bait. Nobody wants Big Ben, Jamaal Brown, or Gaither? Everyone is waiting until after the dust settles after the draft.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 24, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Alan Faneca is now a free agent. Time to put Snyder's check book to use.

Posted by: Jason10 | April 24, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Dude, if the guy is not flawed, how come all 32 ignored him more than 2 times?

Posted by: abxinc | April 23, 2010 10:00 PM
"Flawed"???
Are we talking about a football player or a product recall???
WTH do you mean by "flawed"??
Posted by: p1funk | April 23, 2010 10:17 PM

First humans have flaws, check your dictionary.
Second, get ready to wipe your nose and tears when you hear these two names before Campbell!

1.TonyWashington,Abilene Christian
(Questionable character issues)
2.Sam Young, Notre Dame

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

like a dog chasing its tail

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 24, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Best of what's left based on our needs

Skelton, John QB 6'5" 243 Fordham
Pike, Tony QB 6'6" 223 Cincinnati
LeFevour, Dan QB 6'3" 230 Central Michigan

McKnight, Joe RB 5'11" 198 Southern Cal
Dwyer, Jonathan RB 5'11" 229 Georgia Tech
Dixon, Anthony RB 6'1" 233 Mississippi State
Blount, LeGarrette RB 6'0" 241 Oregon

Briscoe, Dezmon WR 6'2" 207 Kansas
Mitchell, Carlton WR 6'3" 215 South Florida
Gilyard, Mardy WR 6'0" 187 Cincinnati
Cooper, Riley WR 6'3" 222 Florida

Campbell, Bruce OT 6'6" 314 Maryland
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas
Washington, Tony OT 6'6" 311 Abilene Christian

Thomas, Cam DT 6'4" 330 North Carolina

Norwood, Eric LB 6'1" 245 South Carolina

Franks, Dominique CB 5'11" 194 Oklahoma
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi CB 6'0" 207 Indiana (PA)
Warren, Donovan CB 5'11" 193 Michigan

Chancellor, Kam FS 6'3" 231 Virginia Tech

not too much left on the defensive side of the ball

Posted by: noonefromtampa | April 23, 2010 11:24 PM

++++


I'm liking:
Skelton, John QB 6'5" 243 Fordham
Any of the RB's
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas
Thomas, Cam DT 6'4" 330 North Carolina
Norwood, Eric LB 6'1" 245 South Carolina
Chancellor, Kam FS 6'3" 231 Virginia Tech

I would add:
Marshal Newhouse G,RT 6-3 325 TCU
Kyle Calloway RT 6-7 315 Iowa

If we could walk away with two from this list in rounds 4&5, or somehow get more picks, that would be a step in the right direction.

Is Brandon Spikes (MLB 6-3 255 FL) still on the board?


Posted by: edvar | April 24, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

1.TonyWashington,Abilene Christian
(Questionable character issues)

Yeah, incestuous relationship with his biological sister supposedly.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 24, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

"With their 4th Round pick, the Redskins select...."

1. Ricky Sapp
2. Selvish Capers
3. ?

Would like to see up move Rocky or A.Carter for another 4th rounder...but seems like all the trades so far have been exchanges of picks, haven't seen any trades involving veterans during this draft. Will be keeping fingers crossed, though!

If we have to settle for 2011 picks for Campbell and Haynesworth, I can live with that as long as they are reasonable values (3rd & 2nd, respectively)...assuming we are going to try to draft our QB of the future next year, it would be good to have some extra picks stockpiled so we have the juice if we need to move up to get our guy.

Posted by: PDXskin | April 24, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

We have 4 OL slots that are problems. Hopefully, Williams makes that 3 slots. Still need RT, RG and C. Go get 'em in round 4.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 24, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Bruce Campbell still on the draft board?? Skins have the 5th overall pick in the fourth round...hope he still there!

Posted by: kellsz1 | April 24, 2010 12:38 AM |

I think we got the picture now. Thanks.

Posted by: bones21 | April 24, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

'm liking:
Skelton, John QB 6'5" 243 Fordham
Any of the RB's
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas
Thomas, Cam DT 6'4" 330 North Carolina
Norwood, Eric LB 6'1" 245 South Carolina
Chancellor, Kam FS 6'3" 231 Virginia Tech

I would add:
Marshal Newhouse G,RT 6-3 325 TCU
Kyle Calloway RT 6-7 315 Iowa

If we could walk away with two from this list in rounds 4&5, or somehow get more picks, that would be a step in the right direction.

Is Brandon Spikes (MLB 6-3 255 FL) still on the board?


Posted by: edvar | April 24, 2010 12:30 AM

Spikes is gone to New England I believe.. I don't want to see them get a QB. OL hopefully Campbell. OLB and I can see them going after Gilyard also he reminds me of Eddie Royal.

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 24, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

MARTY GILYARD WILL BE THE PICK! At least it should be.

Posted by: Michael_ASU | April 24, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

MARTY GILYARD WILL BE THE PICK! At least it should be.

Posted by: Michael_ASU | April 24, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Hey Kellsz, if you would skim some of the many posts before yours, which is always a good thing if you are going to post on any given thread, you will see that Campbell still being on the board was one of the major topics of conversation. Hope this clears things up for you a bit.

Posted by: kenboy1 | April 24, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is a good QB, but he hasn't proven he's worth a multi-year deal. The number of 1 year stops is very limited.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 23, 2010 8:37 PM |

Your pretty thoughtful, so heres my question.

If JC traded: His stats from last year pretty good, just very few wins.

What would you think he has to have to it be considered a good year?

I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Tx

Posted by: HPYTRKR1

Getting to this a bit late, but here goes. Its very context sensitive. Buffalo or Oakland are different from Pittsburgh or Minnesota. In general, I think he'll have to win some close games and stay in the top 15 in QB rating. He'll need to play confident, which has a lot to do with the coach. Both Zorn and Gibbs undermined his confidence, in different ways. Gibbs simply limited him to game manager. Zorn was supposed to be a mentor, Campbell was supposed to learn a lot. Turns out, Zorn didn't have a lot to teach and the relationship was pretty dysfunctional.

Thing is, when Campbell had his success in 2008, it came when he had decent protection and a running game. He had good receivers, though not great. Oakland and Buffalo are both bad situations for him. Their WRs are small, their OLs are bad. At least those teams have some RB talent. Carolina would have made sense, but with Moore and Clausen, they have 2 young guys to look at already.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 24, 2010 1:58 AM | Report abuse

God...i hope the WaPo and JR eat crow...they have been hyping this complete non-issue for WEEKS.....

Further proving that the REDSKINS INSIDER is anything but......and once again trumped by every other news outlet out there.

This also proves without a doubt to me that every news media outlet LOVES to use the Redskins name to garner attention.

Posted by: GoonieGooGoo | April 24, 2010 2:24 AM | Report abuse

First off, Someone needs to hang Jason LaCock. He is a complete idiot with no skills whatsoever.

Second, draft Bruce Campbell!

Posted by: BacktoGlory | April 24, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Hope we go OL again. My fear - some no name DB who flames out in preseason.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | April 24, 2010 3:18 AM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell stays in D.C.

And I hope all you non-football knowing loudmouths remember to boo next time he throws a touchdown.

Remember yourselves.
You don't understand football and you have no lives. It's not hard to root for a winner, babies. It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him.

Now, I prefer McNabb, but JC could learn a LOT from a dummy. And remember to boo when your team is riding the LipTrain.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Just an observation, but the niners have had the type of draft the skins need...

Posted by: BigE44 | April 24, 2010 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Just an observation, but the niners have had the type of draft the skins need...

Posted by: BigE44 | April 24, 2010 6:36 AM

Some would say the opposite. The niners need a QB. The 'Skins got Donovan McNabb with their second pick. Who did San Francisco get for QB?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

If Bruce Campbell is there they should take him, people may have concerns but in the 4th round he will be a steal.

We have to get by the:

Rams
Vikings
Buccaneers
Texans

We could also try to trade back, the Patriots traded back in the 3rd round yesterday and picked up a 6th this year and a 2nd next year from the Panthers.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 24, 2010 6:55 AM | Report abuse

no love for jevan snead?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 11:27 PM

I watched him throw ridiculous interceptions last year that even Carlos Rogers could have caught.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles have 4 4th round picks Im wondering will they give the skins a call..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles have 4 4th round picks Im wondering will they give the skins a call..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 7:37 AM

They will. They'll offer a fifth and a sixth for our fourth. Woo-hoo!

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Two Campell questions:

1) What are we going to do with Jason Campbell? I am disappointed we didn't get a 2nd day pick for him; now it would probably be worth hanging onto him. Mabe take a 4th rounder, but that's not good value for starting QB.

2) How is Bruce Campbell still available? Many mock drafts had him going in the first round for months, and he had a great combine.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 24, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

2) How is Bruce Campbell still available? Many mock drafts had him going in the first round for months, and he had a great combine.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 24, 2010 8:05 AM

He is not very durable, missing games. The game film on him is not encouraging. He hasn't played his position well and often takes plays off. The combine was great, but the play is mediocre -- obviously all 32 teams in the league graded him as a 4th round talent, unlike the guys who put together the mock drafts. Even the mock draft guys admitted his flaws and labeled him as "a project."

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Albert is staying then, my wife thinks he is a cry baby but i would like to change his diapers

Posted by: blessemun | April 24, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

The only thing being a "steal" about Bruce Campbell would be the money he takes from some team if he plays in the NFL like he did in college.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 24, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Albert is staying then. My wife thinks he is a crybaby. I wouldn't like to change his diapers

Posted by: blessemun | April 24, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

My wife thinks he is a crybaby. I wouldn't like to change his diapers

Posted by: blessemun

? you have a wife?
A grown man wanting to change AH's diaper?

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 24, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

PORTIS WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA STEALIN SUNGLASSES FROM ARMANI STORE IN NYC DAY BEFORE DRAFT, HE WAS TRACKED DOWN AND PAID FOR THEM, IF NOT FOR DRAFT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SCREWED , DONT THINK TEAM KNOWS PLEASE GET THIS OUT TO BRUCE AND SHANNY- THIS FROM VERY RELIABLE SOURCE

Posted by: jm22d56 | April 24, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

The only thing being a "steal" about Bruce Campbell would be the money he takes from some team if he plays in the NFL like he did in college.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | April 24, 2010 8:25 AM

All these guys left in the draft has some issue. Size, character, health. At this point in the drat, I would like to see the Skins fill in depth at positions where a vet starter is likely to gone in the near term because of age, salary/production. The player should also be a starter on special teams this year. ILB, RB, WR, CB, OT, (not necessarily in that order)are the positions they should target from here on. Keep in mind some decent OT should be available after this draft either by trade or as FA. So it's not necessary for them to have to grab an OT here in the 4th.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell stays in D.C.

And I hope all you non-football knowing loudmouths remember to boo next time he throws a touchdown.

Remember yourselves.
You don't understand football and you have no lives. It's not hard to root for a winner, babies. It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him.

Now, I prefer McNabb, but JC could learn a LOT from a dummy. And remember to boo when your team is riding the LipTrain.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Interesting...You call people who don't agree with you...loud mouths....you do not back your point up with any facts.

"JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him."
try looking at it really for what it is... How bout the fact that Mcnabb threw 70% of the time and went down field 4 times more than JC did..Of course JC stats can look good..all he did was dink and dunk the ball.

Anyway...i will just post a link to a video ...go look at this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

Posted by: Thinker

I'll go with 8!

...Give it up...we can't even give Campbell away.

Posted by: rickyroge | April 24, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell stays in D.C.

And I hope all you non-football knowing loudmouths remember to boo next time he throws a touchdown.

Remember yourselves.
You don't understand football and you have no lives. It's not hard to root for a winner, babies. It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him.

Now, I prefer McNabb, but JC could learn a LOT from a dummy. And remember to boo when your team is riding the LipTrain.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Had to add...where in the world do you get they were the worst line in history? they had a bunch of injuries...that I do know...but worse line in history....ya think your kinda stretching the truth just a tad??? how come everyone gives excuses for all the players that they were on a bad Zorn offense..but when it comes to the line....that seems to not apply...

"You don't understand football and you have no lives." Seems that we can all throw that right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell stays in D.C.

And I hope all you non-football knowing loudmouths remember to boo next time he throws a touchdown.

Remember yourselves.
You don't understand football and you have no lives. It's not hard to root for a winner, babies. It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him.

Now, I prefer McNabb, but JC could learn a LOT from a dummy. And remember to boo when your team is riding the LipTrain.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Had to add...where in the world do you get they were the worst line in history? they had a bunch of injuries...that I do know...but worse line in history....ya think your kinda stretching the truth just a tad??? how come everyone gives excuses for all the players that they were on a bad Zorn offense..but when it comes to the line....that seems to not apply...

"You don't understand football and you have no lives." Seems that we can all throw that right back at ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTqk4Du4-wM&feature=related

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse


The Eagles have 4 4th round picks Im wondering will they give the skins a call..

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 7:37 AM

They will. They'll offer a fifth and a sixth for our fourth. Woo-hoo!


Im thinking we could get a later 4th and pick up a 6th we lost from the Jason Taylor trade

Posted by: League-Source

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Report: Jets will cut Alan Faneca Monday

What you guys think ???

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/24/report-jets-will-cut-alan-faneca-monday/

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Report: Jets will cut Alan Faneca Monday

What you guys think ???

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/24/report-jets-will-cut-alan-faneca-monday/

Posted by: leevi98 | April 24, 2010 8:55 AM

Heard he really struggled in pass pro last year. That's why he's being released.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Two Campell questions:

1) What are we going to do with Jason Campbell? I am disappointed we didn't get a 2nd day pick for him; now it would probably be worth hanging onto him. Mabe take a 4th rounder, but that's not good value for starting QB.

2) How is Bruce Campbell still available? Many mock drafts had him going in the first round for months, and he had a great combine.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | April 24, 2010 8:05 AM

Ans:
1. You have a problem with JC staying? Too bad your problem continues. Just don't go into depression OK?

2. Bruce Campbell is still available because he sucks. 32 general managers can not be wrong 3 times.

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

i sure would like to see some kind of objective post-draft analysis on how well all the various pundits did with their mock drafts - at least for the first round or two. after that, there's just too many variables.

one could use a system where a "perfect" draft would get zero points. if someone picked, say, "clausen" at 4, but he actually was picked 48th - that would be worth 44 points.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | April 24, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

no love for jevan snead?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 23, 2010 11:27 PM

I watched him throw ridiculous interceptions last year that even Carlos Rogers could have caught.

Posted by: will_ga | April 24, 2010 7:27 AM
=================
I believe he went down with swine flu in the middle of the season last year at Ole Miss.. Played 2 games with it (not smart). Jerry Rhome loves the guy.. compares him to Aikman (his old student). And word is, he tore up the Combine... But, obviously, there is enough negative info out there on him that he has dropped to the 4th or 5th.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I hope Campbell stays in D.C.

And I hope all you non-football knowing loudmouths remember to boo next time he throws a touchdown.

Remember yourselves.
You don't understand football and you have no lives. It's not hard to root for a winner, babies. It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Skill is skill and JC has the right attitude along with the skill. Put McNabb behind our line last year and guess how many games he wins.

JC beat his stats last year WITH the worst line in league history. Stat for stat. Beat him.

Now, I prefer McNabb, but JC could learn a LOT from a dummy. And remember to boo when your team is riding the LipTrain.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM |

Give it up Jason. Stop posting and come on back to camp no one wants you.....but us. LOL

Posted by: anacostia85 | April 24, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

2. Bruce Campbell is still available because he sucks. 32 general managers can not be wrong 3 times.


Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 9:13 AM

hahahahaha. 6 times for tom brady. it happens all the time. you can't be serious that you think BC is not a major upgrade over hicks or heyer.

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Did I read this right? The Skins have the 8th toughest schedule this year? Wow. I mean, I get how it happens-Divisional games and conference games ( this year NFC North ) are set. But for a 4-12 team, it's a tough break.

Posted by: bostskin | April 24, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

2. Bruce Campbell is still available because he sucks. 32 general managers can not be wrong 3 times.

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 9:13 AM

He probably does BUT this line of reasoning always crashes. 32 GM's can be wrong three times and were wrong FOUR times on Tom Brady.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

hahahahaha. 6 times for tom brady. it happens all the time. you can't be serious that you think BC is not a major upgrade over hicks or heyer.

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 9:22 AM

Athletically, maybe. However there's not much on film that would support the claim that BC is a better player now than a six year veteran NFL player.

Posted by: TWISI | April 24, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

It's hard to know Elway has 2 Super Bowls in him after 10 years of choking, though.

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 24, 2010 4:13 AM |

Yes, it is hard to know this, since it is total nonsense. During the years preceding the Super Bowl wins, far from choking, Elway pretty much carried otherwise-mediocre Denver offenses, and, along with a decent defense, got the team to conference championships and Super Bowls that they would have had no business even getting to without him.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 24, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

i suppose as a follow-up analysis to my pundit analysis, "one" (whoever that magical person who undertakes this task....) could somehow rate how these players "panned out" - i.e. tom brady would cost someone a lot of points.....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | April 24, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

hahahahaha. 6 times for tom brady. it happens all the time. you can't be serious that you think BC is not a major upgrade over hicks or heyer.

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 9:22 AM

Brady wasn't rated a top 10 before drop, B.Campbell was a projected top 10, yet his stock is dropping rapidly. Fascination with a projected bust is common, until you acquire.

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Put in perspective, we've actually had a great draft so far. 1. One of the top two OT"s. 2. The only proven QB in the draft. 3. a DT/DE (Jarmon) who's made the 53 man roster and has a pretty good upside.

Three picks today: another OL, RB, and either LB or DL.

PS: Stay away from Snead - slow release and inaccurate. Already have one of those.

Posted by: bones21 | April 24, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Campbell with the 4th round pick, C. Black with the fifth round pick, that's adding compitition to the O-line.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 24, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"No, it's not going to happen....Albert Haynesworth will not be traded," Shanahan said.
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Interesting that this quote to the NFL Network, came at the end of the 2nd round just before the 3rd round started...when they pulled AH off the table... Which I guess gives us some insight as to what the Skins value AH at.... a minimum 2nd round pick.
Barring a trade before camp.. This will be the first time Shanahan has not removed a player who directly defied him and has the potential to be a training camp distraction. In the past at Denver and Oakland...Shanahan always operated under "my way or the highway" and the player never got a second chance.
Possibly 31 other GMs know this...and for this reason thought they could get AH at a bargain 3rd round pick trade.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell, Maryland - Scouting Report
Height: 6-6. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 4.94.
Combine 40 Time: 4.85.
Benchx225: 34. Arm: 36 1/4.
Projected Round (2010): No. 8 Pick.
2/28/10: Bruce Campbell is officially a "great player." Campbell ran a 4.85 at the Combine, which unquestionably got Al Davis' attention. It'll be a huge upset if Campbell isn't drafted No. 8 overall.

2/27/10: Bruce Campbell benched 225 pounds a whopping 34 times - an impressive feat considering how long his arms are (36 1/4). If Campbell runs a fast 40 on Saturday, Raider fans should just begin ordering Campbell jerseys.

2/26/10: Bruce Campbell was an impressive 6-6, 314 at the Combine with long 36 1/4-inch arms. The Combine is Campbell's time to shine, and assuming he runs a great 40 on Saturday (as expected), he'll become a great player and a lock to go to Al Davis at No. 8 overall.

1/3/09: Bruce Campbell has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. This was a no-brainer; Campbell has an outside shot at the top five if GMs are convinced that his past injuries are a non-factor.

10/24/09: Bruce Campbell is a dominant left tackle who could be the first player at his position off the board. Unfortunately, Campbell has a history of minor injuries that will likely allow Russell Okung to have that honor.

Again, a projected top 10 still available on Saturday, I will stay away from him. The Skins, right now, are not in a position to gamble, we don't have that many picks. 32 general managers and over 300 scouts can not be wrong 3 times.

Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

hahahahaha. 6 times for tom brady. it happens all the time. you can't be serious that you think BC is not a major upgrade over hicks or heyer.

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

So you equate Hicks and Heyer in your mind? Everything I've read so far says that Hicks was the sixth man on an excellent NFL O-line. I certainly wouldn't catagorize Heyer as any more than a poor back-up on a mediocre line after seeing his play the past several years.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 24, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

We will pick a ILB here if any decent ones are on the board. Fifth will be another tackle, then a best available in the seventh. No QB's or RB's I hope.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 24, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

hahahahaha. 6 times for tom brady. it happens all the time. you can't be serious that you think BC is not a major upgrade over hicks or heyer.

Posted by: follybeach | April 24, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse
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actually Brady looks pretty average now without the defensive plays being piped into his helmet from the sidelines.
One of the most memorable Flutie quotes, when he was with the Pats in 2005, it was reported that he said publicly when he first listened in on the QB helmet, how he was amazed that the Pats were telling Brady exactly where the defensive plays would be.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

We will pick a ILB here if any decent ones are on the board. Fifth will be another tackle, then a best available in the seventh. No QB's or RB's I hope.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 24, 2010 9:47 AM

NFL.com has a good draft tracker, giving grades to all prospects at all positions.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-by-round-input:4/dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:lb

Their best-rated LB is Eric Norwood from South Carolina. A good, Spurrier-coached prospect.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Yeah baby, the Skins are back in the game today!! OT, ILB, FS and CB. Make it happen Mikey!

Posted by: Curzon417 | April 24, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

From the Bleacher-Report at the Combine...
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Had Snead decided to leave last year instead of this, he would have walked into the combine with a 92 Grade from Scouts, Inc . After a 2009 season that saw 20 interceptions and lots of pocket anxiety, he’s graded at 57.

I am not insinuating Snead goes before Stafford, Sanchez, or Freeman in last year’s draft, but with a 92 Grade and no questions regarding decision making, he is in the conversation much earlier in last year’s class than this one’s.

All he would have had to accomplish at last year’s Combine is a good throwing performance.

Guess one thing we learned over the weekend?

Snead can throw the ball.

Snead’s decision to prepare for the combine at Houston’s PLEX training facility working with Jerry Rhome paid off in his throwing session.

Rhome is a character in sports the average fan knows exists—a sage the best turn to when they need advice—but rarely sees. He is credited with mentoring—among many others—a young Troy Aikman in Dallas. More recently, he worked with Alabama's Greg McElroy.

Whatever Rhome has been teaching, Snead proved a good student.

Snead looked confident, in control of his mechanics, and most disheartening to Ole Miss fans, the most accurate of any quarterback in his group.

The more throws he made the more you found yourself asking, “Where was this last year?”

Granted there was no defensive coverage in the route tree drills, but even an untrained eye could notice the adjustments receivers were making to throws from other quarterbacks in Snead's group, and the decided lack of them made for Snead's own throws.

Of the names in that group, Tony Pike struggled—a bit too much—on deep and out throws, and failed to quell questions about his arm strength. Zac Robinson rebounded from a listless week at the Senior Bowl and showed well, but did not have the type of throwing performance that ultimately changes his draft position.

Not that Snead did either. We all know he can throw with the best of them. What his performance did prove more than anything else is that he is coachable. Rhome’s influence was obvious, even in the short time the two prepared for Indy.

With half the league looking for a new starting quarterback in the next three years, Snead’s response to tutelage might be the deciding factor for a GM looking to fill that need with a developmental QB in this year’s draft.

A couple of ideas that we need to be open to after watching Snead’s performance at the NFL Combine:

With the lackluster performance—or absence—of other quarterbacks in front him, Snead could move up quite a bit from the fifth round projections he entered the combine with. Maybe even into the top five at the position.

We also learned that Snead responds well to good quarterback instruction, and—Ole Miss Fans must now admit—he might not have been getting exactly that these last two years.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"The reason for no trade offers for AH: He is a max 2 year rental. No one wants that. His salary spikes up but at a voidable point after 2011. Plus, they won't be playing football then during the lockout, except maybe the Arena variety. So you are a GM: bring in a highly talented, but hard to work with guy, for what is likely 1 year? Only if you are (truly) 1 player away, and not many GMs have that viewpoint.
zornskins"

I don't know about this logic. Albert's already got most of the $$$ from that last contract. If you had a shot at slotting him into the defensive front on a potential contender -- just for argument, say Tennessee, Carolina, Miami, NE -- why wouldn't you grab it? You may only have a one-season window anyway. Forget the 3-4 problem -- any coordinator can figure out how to use AH in pass rush situations, and that's really what he's good for.

No, I think the Skins were asking too much for him. But things change, and he still may play somewhere else this year.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Apparently J Reid is not aware there is a third day to the NFL Draft this year!

No one is working at the Post covering the Skins today?

Updates, updates please.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Updates, updates please.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 10:08 AM |

Update: The 'Skins haven't picked yet. There is nothing to report.

Jeez, you got antz in your pantz.

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

On Jevan Snead -- if ever a player missed a blocker, he missed Michael Oher. That tells us he's the sort of QB that needs protection to flourish (don't they all, but some more than others). And he's not the quickest to recognize coverage. But other than that, he's right after Clausen and Bradford in terms of throwing, and more natural for a pro set than Colt McCoy.

Not that it makes much difference one the draft day psychosis sets in. Do you believe somebody took Tebow in Round 1?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Apparently J Reid is not aware there is a third day to the NFL Draft this year!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | April 24, 2010 10:08 AM
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better text him and let him know.... I believe he is at the WNBA playoffs right now.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I vote for Bruce Campbell or a linebacker....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 24, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Do you believe somebody took Tebow in Round 1?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 24, 2010 10:11 AM

Yes. Why not?

Posted by: League-Source | April 24, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

My prediction for rounds 5, 7, and FA.
Note: Round 4 not included.

1. Trindon Holliday, LSU WR/KR
Height: 5-5. Weight: 161.
Projected 40 Time: 4.25.
Combine 40 Time: 4.34.
Vertical: 42. Broad: 9-8.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
1/19/10: A punt returner only, Trindon Holliday averaged an amazing 18.1 yards per punt return. He scored once.
Will be the fastest player at the Combine. Some team will take him as a return specialist.


2. Jacoby Ford, Clemson WR/KR
Height: 5-9. Weight: 186.
Projected 40 Time: 4.34.
Combine 40 Time: 4.28.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
Jacoby Ford blew everyone away at the Combine with a 4.28 40. You know that a certain undead owner in Oakland was paying attention.

3.Deji Karim, Southern Illinois RB
Height: 5-9. Weight: 210.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.37.
Benchx225: 19. Vertical: 43. Broad: 10-3.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
Deji Karim had a very impressive Pro Day, running a 40 in 4.37 seconds despite weighing in at 210 pounds. He also had a 43-inch vertical. Karim rushed for 1,694 yards and 18 touchdowns on a 7.1 YPC average for Southern Illinois in 2009.

4.Cam Thomas, North Carolina NT
Height: 6-4. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Combine 40 Time: 5.27.
Benchx225: 31. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
Cam Thomas had a great Senior Bowl performance, prompting Mike Mayock to say that Thomas may not escape out of the second round.


Posted by: abxinc | April 24, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BT23 | April 24, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

and the rich get richer.. Philly with 4 picks in the 4th round of a deep Draft which is the equivalent to 3rd round talent of past drafts. Only redeeming factoid.. a little less than half of all NFL draft picks succeed, according to PFW.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 24, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

And here we go.................

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Uggh great O-linemen out there and they went LB

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The worst rated player taken so far in the draft goes to the Washington Redskins :-(

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone think Bruce Campbell will fall to 5th round? let me think..NO

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 24, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Linebacker out of LSU I was hoping for another tackle

Posted by: PardenMiSwage | April 24, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Even if Campbell falls to the 5th the Skins pick late in the round

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Raiders just drafted Campbell. Glad the Skins took the linebacker they most likely could have gotten in the 5th or 6th!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 24, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Bruce Campbell was available by the time we picked in the 4th round.

And now we're trying to move Jeremy Jarmon to OLB - AND we take a LB in the 4th round.

This is f-cked

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 24, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

The scouting report on the Skins 4th round pick, Perry Riley, LB from LSU says that: "He cleans up his angles and runs fits on occasion". I'm not exactly sure what this means, but no doubt the Skins must've had some dirty angles to be cleaned.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

a sad day when you cant get rid of this bum for a third rd pic.the must wnt alot of money also.i was so hoping buttersworth and diva thomas would be gone by now.for all of you who still think buttsworth got orakpo and carter all those sacks,he wasnt even in uniform for half those sacks.

Posted by: DLESMonday | April 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

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