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Posted at 11:09 AM ET, 12/ 6/2010

Sources: Albert Haynesworth won't be released

By Jason Reid

Despite ongoing media speculation that defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth may be released soon, the Redskins do not plan to cut him, two people familiar with the situation said Monday.

Haynesworth has again stirred frustration in the organization because of what coaches consider a lack of effort in practice last week and by being late to a defensive meeting, according to people familiar with the situation. But the Redskins are not on the verge of releasing the two-time all-pro player, who earned $32 million in the first 14 months of his contract. By the end of the season, Haynesworth will have been paid $36.5 million for two seasons with the Redskins.

Haynesworth, who has a salary of $3.6 million this season, has been inactive for four games. He has not started a game and has been credited with 13 unassisted tackles and 2.5 sacks.

By Jason Reid  | December 6, 2010; 11:09 AM ET
Categories:  Albert Haynesworth  
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Comments

We already knew from Adam schefter.

Why don't you stick to giving us updates on Brett favre's shoulder, wapo?

Posted by: AdamCr | December 6, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

If ya don't release, then play him. Like p1 says, increase his value to other teams.

Posted by: TWISI | December 6, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I gotta eat some crow on Albert. He needs to go. Maybe not for nothing but somehow he needs to go.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | December 6, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Who the F cares? This saga takes away from the real focus which should be: do we have anyone who wants to play hard the last 4 weeks? We already know Fat Albert doesn't, so let's focus on the other 52 guys who still may have jobs here next season (if there is one).

Posted by: rich20ssu | December 6, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Again...if you expected more of Hicks and Lichtensteiger, YOU'RE the idiot.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 6, 2010 9:36 AM |

brown

an idiot is one who continually defends a football team that is the perennial SB offseason champion. and don't come at us with YOU CRITICIZE the redskins, you're a walking and talking PR guy for the redskins, especially dirt ball mcnabb

I don't know brown, we've known who they are now for 10-11 years. let me ask you to put the optimism to the side, aren't you sick of not only losing, but also the way we lose ? and to start right off the bat trading picks for veterans, you don't see a trend ?

a total makeover is in order and should had started last offseason.

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

For F'n sake, Shanny clearly hates this guy, the only we get anything in return is by letting him play, so that someone sees value in this fat dooosh. Scrap the 3-4 until next year and let the fat kid play next to Kemo or whoever to stop the run train that has been killing us. Every single one of our guys knows how to play the 4-3, lets switch and see if we can eeke out few more wins. If we got .500 this year, that is a good year for this team. Anyone taking bets to see if Haslett returns next year...looks to me, that DMacs arm is dying, he has been short on so many throws, trade him to the VIkes next year.

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I never post here anymore, in no small part because the Skins stink and I've never been more apathetic to them than I have been this year for some reason, but brownwood, come on man, it's OK to criticize Shanahan sometimes.

Anyone who thinks trading for McNabb has worked out this year is in denial, the 3-4 switch hasn't panned out at all thus far, the AH situation was badly mismanaged (by both sides), and ever since the bye week we've been awful. Everyone deserves blame, and with our age and lack of draft picks, it's hard to see us being viable in the playoff picture for 2-3 seasons...

Posted by: mattylight | December 6, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Skins currently in the 10th spot of the draft...should improve with the Boys and Titans winning a few more games.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/33026/draftwatch-lions-currently-at-no-2

Posted by: swowra | December 6, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Haynesworth needs to play. He has awesome talent, and he's making tens of millions of dollars to play.

Play him! If he's not prepared, he'll probably get hurt. Maybe he'll learn from it.

Stop trying to protect him from himself and throw his azz in the game. If he plays like crap, his teammates will call him out. He may hate Shanahan, but he does have some personal pride in his play. We've seen it.

There is NO DOWNSIDE to playing him in the games.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse


He may hate Shanahan, but he does have some personal pride in his play. We've seen it.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:28 AM |

like when he takes off plays, oh he's a real proffesional. UFB?

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I would also like to see Rabach returned to the sideline, he is atrocious, hands down worst center in the league, IMO.

I truly think, j. brown and t. williams will be better next year, hell I think t. williams has done pretty well this year, just banged up. It was truly sad to watch Heyer play LT, turnstile is being nice.

I am excited about Armstrong if he holds onto the ball. That fumble sucked, but it looked like he was going to fumble several times with the way he carries the ball. I think Moss is done and done, Cooley played like he is feeling the effects of the concussion still, he just looked off, I thought i saw throws that he would typically catch, get dropped or not lay out for, I think he is gone too.

What is more concerning AH being a waste of space or the fact that it seems like our O-coordinator and d-coordinator dont know how to make adjustments??

James Davis I thought looked pretty good, if only to be a legitimate 3rd down back, good hands.

If the season ends next week, where do we stand in the way of draft picks in the 1st round and does Philly get a 4th or a 3rd for McNabb trade??

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

There is NO DOWNSIDE to playing him in the games.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wrong.

The downside is in the example you set for other players.

Wasn't letting certain players(Haynesworth included) start after doing the bare minimum in practice a problem last year?

Sorry, his talent doesn't buy him preferential treatment.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 6, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"Said linebacker Brian Orakpo: "I don't know what Albert would've done. I ain't worried about Albert. .."

Yes...because he def needs to be worried about learning how to play OLB in the NFL......He looks like Vernon Gohlston whenever he isn't rushing the QB.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Once again this mess wasn't gonna get fixed this year. We are installing 2 new schemes on O and D. New QB, Head Coach, D Coord, O Coord tons of injuries and no legit RB. Why would anyone think we would be marching into the playoffs? Give the new Coach time to get things headed in the right direction. Give the Gm another year to draft and sign new talent. If this keeps happening the next 2 years, then start complaining. The 2 biggest problems that need addressing before anything else is O line and D line. Thats where football begins and ends...in the trenches. When you get beat there repeatedly, you will lose games repeatedly.

Posted by: FedorEm | December 6, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 11:33 AM

He's NEVER been an every-down player. Snyder knew that before he signed his first paycheck.

Now that Haynesworth is here, the coach needs to maximize use of the talent he has on the team.

If he's winded, sit him down. Use him situationally.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Skins currently in the 10th spot of the draft...should improve with the Boys and Titans winning a few more games.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/33026/draftwatch-lions-currently-at-no-2

Posted by: swowra | December 6, 2010 11:28 AM

Good for us...

Because after this past Saturday's game Cam Newton has shot into the top 10....possibly top 5.....

Pencil it in!

We may need to keep HAynesworth in order for us to throw in when trading up in the draft....He's our perverbial ham sandwich...

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Saying that Haynesworth should play when he doesn't practice because of ghost ailments and whatever other excuses he makes, is like sending the troops to the front to fight the enemy and reassuring them that everything will be ok because the lazy sargent who is taking a nap, while the planning and trainng is going on, will be there.
oh, well, there will always be fools ...

Posted by: hock1 | December 6, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I posted last week that Allen / Shanahan will need to cut about 12 guys who make money but do not produce well.

If you are going to lose, you might as well, lose going out getting different guys:
Cheaper FA
Draft Picks
Undrafted FA

Next year may be 4-12 again

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 6, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Why would anyone think we would be marching into the playoffs?

Posted by: FedorEm | December 6, 2010 11:40 AM

We beat the NFC Champion favorites opening week.

Posted by: PlayAction | December 6, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Perverbial?

Posted by: freakzilla | December 6, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Yes...because he def needs to be worried about learning how to play OLB in the NFL......He looks like Vernon Gohlston whenever he isn't rushing the QB.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

A little harsh. Though was bad against run a couple times yesterday.

Not exactly hard to game plan around him when he is the only threat in the front 7. And one of only 2 play makers on the entire D.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 6, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Albert is a dip, and I'm glad they benched his a**.

This team has a long ways to go. Is anyone really surprised about that? First things first though, when trying to turn around what has been a circus atmosphere for over a decade: instill some accountability. Shanahan won't allow AH to skirt being a professional, and he shouldn't. If this team's culture is ever going to change, it has to start at the top, and there isn't any change if the kind of crap AH pulls goes unpunished.

Now, the players are finally voicing their displeasure with Albert.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 6, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

One thing that was possibly mismanaged with AH (from a coaching perspective) was the timing in terms of telling the team.

I know you don't want the Giants to know Albert is a scratch until as late as possible, but you could at least fill in the team earlier so they aren't distracted during pregame warmups.

Posted by: swowra | December 6, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse


Yes...because he def needs to be worried about learning how to play OLB in the NFL......He looks like Vernon Gohlston whenever he isn't rushing the QB.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse
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A little harsh. Though was bad against run a couple times yesterday.

Not exactly hard to game plan around him when he is the only threat in the front 7. And one of only 2 play makers on the entire D.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 6, 2010 11:47 AM |
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tell you what, the guy draws holding penaties.

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Saying that Haynesworth should play when he doesn't practice because of ghost ailments and whatever other excuses he makes, is like sending the troops to the front to fight the enemy and reassuring them that everything will be ok because the lazy sargent who is taking a nap, while the planning and trainng is going on, will be there.

Posted by: hock1 | December 6, 2010 11:45 AM

Then release him. He's 29 years old, he is who we thought he is. He's not going to suddenly become a practice player, or an every-down player. We knew that before he arrived.

Pay him $44M to ride the pine? That's just stupid, and that's why he's become a distraction.

If he flat sucked, he wouldn't be a distraction. And if you can't get him in important games, there's no reason to keep him.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Send him to his "Always be a Titan at heart" team for whatever we can get for him..(His local grocery store may need a bailout after he leaves a deficit-he's probably half their business)...

Posted by: frak | December 6, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the schedule I firmly believe the Skins will lose their last four games, finishing the season on a 6 game losing streak at 5-11

We heard a lot about Shanahan and Allen changing the culture of the Washington Redskins.
Uh, doesn't look like the losing culture will be changed much at all.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 6, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

This was from Chris Russell yesterday and was wondering if there has been any comment or update about Torain?

Russellmania09--An angry "no comment" is the answer I got from Ryan Torain's agent on if he is playing or not.

Posted by: will_ga | December 6, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Skins have to trade AH, rather than releasing him. If they trade him, he only gets what he's due under his contract. If they release him he's a free agent and can negotiate another signing bonus. It wouldn't be a big signing bonus, but as long as more than one team wants him, it won't be inconsequential.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 6, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

That TV image of Haynesworth sitting on the bench by himself all warm and cozy wearing that camo Redskins pullover while his team struggled on the field spoke loudly to his performance since accepting Snyder's money.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | December 6, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Monk if we draft a NT or DE and not OL and or RB we will suck again and mcnabb will get destoyed

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 6, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Look, I don't have the answers, I just know that we need MAJOR work on the OLine and DLine. That game would have been majorly different if we didn't let Jacobs/Bradshaw run free all game and if McNabb didn't have to constantly look over his shoulder cause the blocking was breaking down. Maybe then McNabb doesn't have to take the game in his hands and force plays like the fumble and interception. Look at how Peyton is playing now without some of his weapons, he's trying to do too much and he's coming apart at the seams!

Posted by: monk811 | December 6, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse


Pay him $44M to ride the pine? That's just stupid, and that's why he's become a distraction.

Posted by: Alan4 | December 6, 2010 11:53 AM |
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one name to blame - snyder, it starts at the top and trickles down to the bottom - snyder

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

It's amusing how nobody in the media wants to name where this rumor started from. Chris Russell and ESPN980 put it out there, but it's now general "speculation". It's speculation cuz they put it out there making it sound they had it on good authority and working everyone into a frenzy. It's ok to say it, it didn't just come out of nowhere.

Posted by: justice98 | December 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely right, OLINE and DLINE need to be better players. Kemo is bad, Carriker is not great, Daniels god bless him is old and slow, Holiday old, Gholston looks awful...Oline is just as bad, if not worse. I hope to see 4-5 new faces on both lines next year.

I say you play AH until he literally pukes on the field, make him play PR, KR, play him to death, might lose some weight and learn a lesson or show up...what do we have to lose, we already paid him.

Rocky Mac looks like he is breaking down, Fletcher is a beast still, but that wont last.

Shanallen have a long road...

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Sources: Why would we ever want release the lazy jerk-off?

For all intents and purposes, our season is already over. We're only playing for draft picks now -- which means the more we lose, the higher our picks will be.

Sometimes it just don't pay to win.

And there just no good reason to cut him free when his continued presence here means that we won't have to pay someone else to fill his vacant roster spot.

Besides, that's someone else who might just be motivated to actually play to win -- which would just undermine our whole "go for the best draft picks" strategy.

So we'll play him, bench him and may even declare him inactive for the next four Sundays -- it really doesn't make much difference so long as we keep losing -- and then we can trade him for more draft picks when the season is done.

Hell to the Redskins!

Posted by: Vic1 | December 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Dude, you never fail to remind us all that you are flat-out retarded. This was McNabb's worst game as a Redskin and one of the worst games I have ever seen the guy play.

The fumble while he was trying to go down was totally pathetic. The picks were as 'Favre-like' as normal. His decision making was horrible and he is now mysteriously falling down, untouched AT LEAST once a week now.

Yeah, the line was getting owned but McNabb is in no way insulated from blame. He sucked big, sweaty, smelly donkey balls - just like a lot of other players.

Yes, 1000 times yes, the Skins will draft a QB this year and the way we're going, might end up with a top 4 pick.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | December 6, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

And you never fail to remind us how unoriginal you are, you sound just like some other people here, don't you have your own voice or opinion Body Odor? It's funny you talk about smelly donkey nuts, maybe you should wash yours!!! hahaha

Sure genius, go get another QB, let him make the same dumb mistakes behind the same lame-ass line, he'll get sacked 4 or 5 times a game, he'll not know the offense right away which means he'll run the 2-minute drill slow, and you'll blame him for that! Pretty soon after that you'll have your QB, but then you'll be complaining that we don't have a line or receivers to go with him!!!

We need more peices to this puzzle before we go get a QB. McNabb obviously is not the answer for the future, but with some more competent players around him he might still lead us to something. If we had more draft picks I'd love for us to get a QB, but we can only do so much, and since we already have a QB now, we should go after some of the REAL needs of this team like NT, G, WR, RB in the later rounds, OLB, not some QB that's gonna ride the bench for a couple years. Your mind should be like your deoderant, open it so you can use it, please!!!

Posted by: monk811 | December 6, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

If the season ends next week, where do we stand in the way of draft picks in the 1st round and does Philly get a 4th or a 3rd for McNabb trade??

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 11:33 AM

Doesn't matter, because New Orleans gets the other pick with the Jamaal Brown trade. Although, I have to imagine Philly is getting the 4th round pick, because there is no way that the incentives for McNabb to achieve that would move Philly up to a 3rd round pick are to play poorly, throw more INTs than TDs, fail to have a winning record, and finish in the bottom half of the league in every QB statistical category.

Posted by: Section104 | December 6, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

What are the past 12 months telling you?

Posted by: Pepper5 | December 6, 2010 9:17 AM

That this team isn't very talented. That the majority of players Shanny thought he could count on as starters on the oline and dline, he can't. That it will take another two years before we can fully judge the Shannallen administration.


Posted by: TWISI | December 6, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

They really need to press the reset button, don't they?

Posted by: Pepper5 | December 6, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the schedule I firmly believe the Skins will lose their last four games, finishing the season on a 6 game losing streak at 5-11

We heard a lot about Shanahan and Allen changing the culture of the Washington Redskins.
Uh, doesn't look like the losing culture will be changed much at all.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 6, 2010 11:54 AM

A 5-11 record in last year's draft would have been good for a pick between 6 and 8.

Losing culture? The losing record hasn't been changed much. And the culture can't be changed until they change a few more players.

Posted by: beep-beep | December 6, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Look, I don't have the answers, I just know that we need MAJOR work on the OLine and DLine.

Posted by: monk811 | December 6, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, thats the best place to start. They got LT last year, lets get C, G, and NT next. If we do a good job addressing those 3 positions this offseason, I'd be happy. Icing on the cake would be a WR that doesnt drop 3 balls a game.

Posted by: nami322 | December 6, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Careful, you might not want to agree with me. The leader of the blog, aka beep-beep, might call you a sock puppent and then you'd be an instant member of the SPG!

Posted by: monk811 | December 6, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Hessone, you keep blaming Snyder, but I just dont see him being as big as a problem this year. Clearly, I think Shanallen are in control of this team, your hatred for Snyder is awesome, I can assure you he wants to win as much, if not more than any of us on here. He is a money guy and a greed, but he doesnt make as much if we lose, get a grip dude.

I hate the way the skins are playing and the last 10 years, but I dont think you can solely blame Snyder for all that has ailed the Skins...

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I knew the spelling correction would be sure to follow......

And I knew the OSackpo excuse making would start.......

But all I was and have seen is one trick....Sacks..

As some one stated above...he is good for a hold a game....but is that all we got to look forward to?

And I am glad Jason Campbell is doing well in Oakland, because he would have never been good in Washington...They are adapting to him and not forcing him into a system....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Geee..looks like Peter King has also jumped off the McNabb bandwagon:

It's a tough call because McNabb looks mostly old and ineffective.

Someone should tell Mr. King that McNabb's faults are due to poor offensive line play.

I mean, that--and not his being finished and a bad signing/trade--is the usual culprit in these parts.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan SUCKS in evaluating d-line talent. It was his achilles in Denver and now here. Bench Fat Albert because of his attitude - fine but don't destroy the man's trade value. Then bring in last year's mash unit of Adam Carriker and Maake Kemoeatu. Those guys have been on skates all year.

As for the o-line, Williams is good but Lichtenstieger, Brown, and Hicks are bums.

I haven't seen anything that suggests that Jim Zorn couldn't go 5-7 with an upgrade at qb.

So we're suppose to give Shanahan a pass because he's changing the culture of accountability on this team? The only reason he is, is because he has job security. If he thougt his can would be fired by losing to the Giants in a must win, the talent on the bench would have made it to the field.

This roster has 30 new faces and it still stinks. The turnover on the roster next year will more than likely be on the guys Shanahan brought in - not the guys he inherited.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 6, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse


Hessone, you keep blaming Snyder
I hate the way the skins are playing and the last 10 years, but I dont think you can solely blame Snyder for all that has ailed the Skins...

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 12:06 PM |

well, he is the owner. I own my own business and if things go wrong it's my ass and no one else's.

he hired allen, a guy who started dealing draft picks right off the bat. for what ? the first thing in order should've been getting rid of someone (the only one) who didn't buy into the program, one AH.

instead, he foolishly traded draft picks for veterans, in a league that is getting younger, we get older. am I the only peep that has noticed all season how slow we are ?

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

on the fox pre-game, they stated Jeff George is staying in shape, and hoping to make a come back....at this point, I'm open to it.........


KIDDING....only open to it if it costs a 1st round pick...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse


Careful, you might not want to agree with me. The leader of the blog, aka beep-beep, might call you a sock puppent and then you'd be an instant member of the SPG!

Posted by: monk811 | December 6, 2010 12:04 PM |

can you please do us a favor and not start your schtick, please. thanks in advance

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

mhartz1

I agree completely. Snyder may have his faults, but he wants to win. His hirings are too based on splash and not substance. Bias aside, Russ Grimm should be heading this team this should have been the first year of a rebuilding effort. Hiring both Shanahans and a pseudo GM was a mistake. Big Mike hasnt seen consistent success since the 90s and Kyle doesnt have the benefit of coaching the leagues best receiver anymore to make him look good. Granted they arent going anywhere but in my mind they have been a bigger drain on this team than Haynesworth or his contract. They did everything Cerrato did and everyone smiled. They brought in past their prime players. They have wasted future draft picks and there is still no clear cut plan in place. These guys are amateur hour and no amount of spin from Boswell or Adam Schefter will change that.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 6, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

JC needed to go. He was a loser and his presence on the team was an albatross around the organization's neck (not all his fault).

Posted by: p1funk | December 6, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Campbell is on a 6-6 team, while mcNabb is on a 5-7 team

Campbell was 7 for 8 and dominated, that's all it takes.

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Again...if you expected more of Hicks and Lichtensteiger, YOU'RE the idiot.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 6, 2010 9:36 AM |

So Shanahan IS AN IDIOT, I agree. He failed to replace the weakest link, 2nd. 3rd, and 4th weakest links (RG, RT, LG, C)

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 6, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

McNabb looks like JCamp circa 2009, F'n awful. How long did he hold the ball yesterday, good lord...

I just cant seem to understand that these WR cant get open, I watched him miss 3-4 reads yesterday as he sat there holding the ball. However, I must say, he probably doesnt have much trust in any of his WR, Cooley - drops galore, Moss - at least 3 drops a game, Davis - drops, Armstrong -drops and fumbles.

To me the biggest thing is that it looks like DMac's arm strength is fading, time to cast him off and get something in return if anything, Cardinals or Vikes need a year leased QB, i would take 3rd or 4th, but it wont happen.

List of who to cut in the offseason, starts now:

Moss
Rabach
Kemo
Carriker
Rocky Mac
Doughty
R. Williams
Lichtenballs
Heyer
Hicks
Daniels - probably retires


Just my opinion of course

Posted by: mhartz1 | December 6, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And I knew the OSackpo excuse making would start.......

But all I was and have seen is one trick....Sacks..

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 6, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Which OLB has done more in the league with as little talent around him.

Won't hold my breath waiting..

At least you've moved on from worshiping Brian Cushing for now.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | December 6, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I say you play AH until he literally pukes on the field, make him play PR, KR, play him to death, might lose some weight and learn a lesson or show up...what do we have to lose, we already paid him.

Posted by: mhartz1 |

Sonny Jurgensen said this morning that if you want to punish Haynesworth, don't bench him (it was COLD and brutal out there) - instead, make him play and don't allow him to come out of the game. This makes sense. Although I still don't understand why he was being punished.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 6, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Look, the little imp of an owner/GM has not changed his MO; he has replaced Vinny with a new, improved puppet - namely Bruce Allen. Dano still is behind the curtain pulling all the switches. If this wasn't so, Shannahan would have certainly cut Fat Albert before now AND the team wouldn't have signed an old-average-at-best QB to an extension.

So, for all the youngsters that believe things are different in Danoland, I have a bridge to sell them across the Hudson!

Posted by: duru44 | December 6, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse


beeps to landry wants to play

Posted by: hessone | December 6, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

bangkoken

So we're suppose to give Shanahan a pass because he's changing the culture of accountability on this team?...This roster has 30 new faces and it still stinks

He gets no pass from me as unlike with Zorn who had a roster and scheme forced on him, Shanny was given the power to do as he pleases.

And he has the power, he should also shoulder the blame.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

He looks like Vernon Gohlston whenever he isn't rushing the QB.......

Posted by: 4thFloor
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Oooh, that's cold. Orakpo looks like a DE playing LB, but that's what Shanahan wants.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 6, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Albert is a dip, and I'm glad they benched his a**.

This team has a long ways to go. Is anyone really surprised about that? First things first though, when trying to turn around what has been a circus atmosphere for over a decade: instill some accountability. Shanahan won't allow AH to skirt being a professional, and he shouldn't. If this team's culture is ever going to change, it has to start at the top, and there isn't any change if the kind of crap AH pulls goes unpunished.

Now, the players are finally voicing their displeasure with Albert.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | December 6, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

A 5-11 record in last year's draft would have been good for a pick between 6 and 8.

Losing culture? The losing record hasn't been changed much. And the culture can't be changed until they change a few more players.

Posted by: beep-beep
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Right you are, beep-beep
And that is why my post was a follow up to my previous post minutes earlier that Shanahan is going to have to cut about 12 who are being paid but are not very productive.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | December 6, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I say you play AH until he literally pukes on the field, make him play PR, KR, play him to death, might lose some weight and learn a lesson or show up...what do we have to lose, we already paid him
by mhartz1
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Play his ass to death, forget this nonsense about "punishing" him by not playing him. Play him to death, get your money's worth.

I get Shanahan's ploy, but it's dumb-Haynesworth wins if he doesn't have to play while collecting checks plus he saves his body wear and tear before next year's contract.
Shanahan's idea of shunning AH doesn't matter, Haynesworth is looking at MS like "you're the fool, not me-I'm getting paid AND I'm not playing".

I believe Snyder is at work here-Shanahan looks like the type that would release a player, but perhaps Snyder is holding him back, realizing that cutting AH would bring a fresh round of scrutiny/criticism about personnel decisions. It's a bit of a mess.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 6, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree AH needs to go go......right after Shanahan and Haslett.

Posted by: DodgerDog | December 6, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

We need more peices to this puzzle before we go get a QB....to get a QB, but we can only do so much, and since we already have a QB now, we should go after some of the REAL needs of this team like NT, G, WR, RB in the later rounds, OLB, not some QB that's gonna ride the bench for a couple years. Your mind should be like your deoderant, open it so you can use it, please!!!
Posted by: monk811
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Agree...to a point. If we can make it happen, we should move back in the draft for more picks.
HOWEVER, we don't have enough talent, so the best move might be to take the best possible player.

Shanahan drafted Jay Cutler and I would bet he likes Jake Locker,the Huskies QB and a Cutler-like clone. Locker is projected to be a top ten draft pick-do you pass up a chance for a franchise QB to do the smart thing and build up your lines? There's three potential franchise QBs in A.Luck, R.Mallett and J.Locker and maybe (my guess)4-5 more intriguing prospects.

The Redskins are going to have a tough choice-quality or bodies? We can't have both this year thanks to Snyder and Cerrato.

As much as I wish for us to build our lines, I find the idea of letting Ryan Mallett, the Arkansas QB, slip past us in the draft to be a bad move, he's too talented.

Plus, as badly as we need interior O-linemen,we're probably going to be picking too high to justify reaching for one and ignoring Mallett, Ingram the Alabama RB, Green the Georgia WR, Fairley the Auburn DL, Peterson and Amukamara the LSU and Nebraska corners respectively.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 6, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

How much more of this can a fan take? Having been a Skins fan since the mid-60's when my dad co-hosted a radio show with Bobby Mitchell, I've lived in the NYC area since 1973, and yesterday was the most embarrassing performance I've experienced living among Giants fans. Haynesworth is Stubblefield and Wilkinson all over again, and the only question remaining for me is who will it be next under this ridiculous ownership to which we've been subjected for more than a decade now.

The changes have to start at the very top. Please, for all of us who love the Skins, sell the team, Mr. Snyder.

Posted by: hogslover | December 6, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan dissapoints me.
First if you invest 100 mill. in cow sh*t you gotta put it on the field. Make AH play. I guarantee he is better than what I saw on the field yesterday.

Second.
How can he let Haslett come in and switch to 3-4 when the players dont fit the system. That shows stupidity/stubborness by Haslett and Shanahan let it happen. To me this shows he doesnt pay attention to detail. As a "head coach",you need to look at everything!

This season, the redskins accomplished NOTHING in terms of rebuiling/changing the environment.
Hate to say it but the RAVENS organization is light years ahead of the SKINS. Not even close 3 playoff appearences in 17 years!!! This is embarrassing!!!

Posted by: MDskins | December 6, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

redskins insider blog gnomes:

step 1: post information damning Haynesworth and say that unnamed people in the organization are calling for his ouster (a popular news word, but who actually says that?).

step 2: Write story saying media speculation is wrong, unnamed people in organization confirm that he will not be let go

3) ?

4) Profit

Posted by: moo21 | December 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Of course they won't, that would be the right move. And, as we know, this pack of morons cannot do ANYTHING right.

What a loser franchise they have become. An ongoing punch line.

Posted by: Trout1 | December 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Second.
How can he let Haslett come in and switch to 3-4 when the players dont fit the system. That shows stupidity/stubborness by Haslett and Shanahan let it happen. To me this shows he doesnt pay attention to detail. As a "head coach",you need to look at everything!

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Noooo! Haslett is just executing Shanahan's wishes, the 3-4 idea is Shanahan's alone.
I think that Shanahan's stubborness with the 3-4 has to do with AH, to change now is to acknowledge that AH was right about the switch. We see now that Shanahan will do anything before admitting that he was wrong.
If only Haynesworth had went about it differently, Shanahan might have adjusted. However, Haynesworth complained in a way that didn't leave Shanahan room to save face, so he's sticking it out with the 3-4, which is too bad.

Shanahan may know how to coach, but his ideas on defense leave something to be desired. He did have 4 different D-coordinators his last 4-5 years with Denver.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | December 6, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

From Dana Stubblefield to Lenard Marshall to Sean Gilbert to USS Simms skins have always been the altimate loosers in acquiring these looser type burned out free agents, as I watch Mcnabb hop around the field like Fred Sanford in his junk lot, I once again wonder how teams like the Ravens and Steelers are able to stock pile studs like they do, this dont seem fair at all.

Posted by: zimife1999 | December 6, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

gotta keep the fat b@st@rd after foolishly giving him $20 mill, Dan.

Posted by: tcsi | December 6, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

gotta keep the fatso after foolishly giving him $20 mill, Dan.

Posted by: tcsi | December 6, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Lets see now, Hummm. $36 million for 13 tackles and 2.5 sacks is a little over $2.3 million per play…not bad work if you can get it!

Posted by: cfpplp | December 6, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Lets see now, Hummm. $36 million for 13 tackles and 2.5 sacks is a little over $2.3 million per play…not bad work if you can get it!

Posted by: cfpplp | December 6, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Play the guy, at least if he plays we can get trade value. If you just cut him we get nothing and he wins because he just wants to go back to the Titans anyway. I would say trade him to the Lions or raiders but with the way we have been playing that would no longer be a punishment but an upgrade. But hey, Its a new coach, New QB some old players who should be replaced so I did not expect but soo much this year. If we can win 6 to 8 games its an improvement. Releasing AH would be doing him a favor and rewarding him for his behavior. He would be on the first thing smoking back to Fisher.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 6, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

What happenned to Rocky McInTosh? That guy used to be good. He totally sucks now. Useless.

Posted by: astrober1 | December 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Since no one at this diseased rag knows anything about what's going on (except what Danny Boy tells them), and to forgo any tweeting lies by Mike Wise, here's some real scoop I dug up on a reputable website:

"The latest chapter in the Albert Haynesworth saga should be getting more attention, but the Redskins aren’t in the playoff race and we’ve already grown accustomed to Haynesworth as a rarely-useful backup. Another benching barely phases anyone, even when there are a few inflammatory comments thrown in.

Well, the Redskins are considering a way to get everyone’s attention.

Chris Russell of ESPN 980 in Washington (Dan Snyder’s station) reports that the team is giving “serious consideration” to releasing Haynesworth this week. Russell’s team source says the move is “75% likely.”

Haynesworth was inactive Sunday against the Giants after showing up late to a meeting during the week and missing a practice due to illness.

A release would be an appropriate ending to the Haynesworth-Mike Shanahan marriage. It would essentially be an admittance that the team badly mismanaged the situation all year. They held on to Haynesworth too long, paid him too much, and won’t get a draft pick in return. (Or consistent help from Haynesworth on the field.)

Cutting Haynesworth would simply be giving up, like the Redskins did on the field Sunday."

Why anyone would spend a buck on this piece of crap is beyond me. It sure isn't because of Sally Jenkins' looks!

Posted by: cbtole2 | December 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

The Shanahan regime looks pretty inept w/ the way they've handled Haynesworth all year, the McNabb benching, releasing Brandon Banks, Ryan Torain then bringing them back, signing Larry Johnson and Willie Parker, the non-working 3-4, etc. etc. It might be an improvement over the Zorn, Bingo caller seasons, but not really all that much.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 6, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

don't cut him. p

Posted by: drum__head | December 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

don't cut him. put him on the practice squad instead. that'll show him

Posted by: drum__head | December 6, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

At what point can a man just admit 'I made a mistake?'

Shanny won't; Albert won't; The Danny can't (with a straight face, that is)

This boils down to males who can't behave like men.

Dan created this environment...he was the rich boy with a toy. And millions of payouts and turnover later, we are still here, still looking at some guy whose pockets are on swole and we got nothing to show for it.

Look up the list of millionaires (going back to Stumblesfield and Sean '45 million' Gilbert) that this organization has made, then add up the wins/losses. List the players that ball before they get here, fail here, then ball elsewhere.

This team has been printing money and giving it away based off that...

Posted by: kahlua87 | December 6, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Th situation is simple - the redskins are a marginally better team with AH playing than they are without him - not much but certainly better than Sundays performance.

If I were coach i would play him every snap, every game form here on whether he practiced or not, whether he got to meetings on time or not. He would never come out of the game on defense and he would play every snap on Teams as well.

If he elected to fall and lie on the field in a heap, then fine; if he chose to quit and give up on plays, then fine. He would play and it would all be on tape, all on the TV for every team, every player in the NFL to see. Every TV commentator could take their shots.

In this environment he would either play like a madman in search of the next contract or he would play himself out of the league for good! As long as he could limp, as long as he could lift one arm, as long as he could breathe he would play!

Whatever the selected to do would not make the Redskins any worse or more of a laughing stock in the NFL.

Right now he is making fools out of the entire coaching group over there! Right now he is acting smarter, more strategically than Shanahan and company!

Posted by: dotto | December 6, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

'play him..' 'play him till he pukes..' 'don't let him come out...' What? you guys are kidding, right? What in the world makes you think that fat, out of shape, no good punk would put forth any effort? He doesn't feel like playing so he won't play. He'll lay there, like a used 'rag'...as he has done before. He'll take himself out of the game, like he has done before. He'll claim that he's hurt, like he has done before.
Face it guys, no one is going to 'pay' anything to the Skins or his "services". The other teams will just wait out the Skins until they cut him, then get him for nothing. Look, the Skins have paid him already, the money is gone whether he's here or not...forget it. The best thing to do now is to ignore him. Keep him here, inactive, away from practice, away from meetings, let him get fatter, and further out of shape. Don't let him go elsewhere to get MORE money from some other lunatic owner.
Fat albert (he doesn't deserve a 'capital' A) is a no good chump

Posted by: scmonty1 | December 6, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

What Reid should have said was that Boswell's column title "Haynesworth Must Go" didn't succeed in getting him run out of town.

I'm glad the skins didn't cave in to media's probably 3rd attempt to run Haynesworth out of town.

The skins sent a clear message to the media that "you ain't running sheite over at redksin park". "If we like Albert should go it will be US to make that determination not you".

Cudos to the skins brass. Your team still sucks though and so does your handling of Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: keedrow | December 6, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The situation is simple - the redskins are a marginally better team with AH playing than they are without him - not much, but certainly better than Sunday's performance.

If I were coach i would play him every snap, of every game from here on whether he practiced or not, whether he got to meetings on time or not. He would never come out of the game on defense and he would play every snap on Teams as well.

If he elected to fall and lie on the field in a heap, then fine; if he chose to quit and give up on plays, then fine. He would play and it would all be on tape, all on the TV for every team, every player in the NFL to see. Every TV commentator could take their shots.

In this environment he would either play like a madman in search of the next contract or he would play himself out of the league for good! As long as he could limp, as long as he could lift one arm, as long as he could breathe he would play!

Whatever he selected to do could not make the Redskins any worse or more of a laughing stock in the NFL.

Right now he is making fools out of the entire coaching group over there! Right now he is acting smarter, more strategically than Shanahan and company!

Posted by: dotto | December 6, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Look at the way the Redskins are run vs. the Giants and Eagles and it's hard to imagine a day when Washington will once again be on top in the NFC East.

Haynesworth is a drug habit this team just can't seem to kick.

Whether it is Snyder caterwalling over the money that has been paid or Shanahan's ego in not wanting to appear to blink, the Redskins are compounding a bad mistake by keeping #92 on the roster going forward.

Mark my words.

The Redskins will never be a playoff team while Haynesworth is on the roster.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | December 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how anyone can say that the Redskins are marginally better with Albert than without him.

When you consider his $100 million salary, you EXPECT a NO-COMPROMISE situation - that is, the player is OBLIGATED to play whatever position he is asked to play, play when he is asked to play, and to play CONSISTENTLY AT A HIGH LEVEL COMMENSURATE WITH HIS SALARY. He should also be a MODEL PLAYER IN PRACTICE AND A TEAM LEADER.

Albert Haynesworth is one of the highest paid players ever - IT IS HIS JOB TO PLAY AT THAT LEVEL!

What has happened is that Albert doesn't want to play a nose-tackle, doesn't want to practice at full-speed, doesn't want to play in run defenses (!), and has demonstrated no leadership qualities whatsoever.

I find it odd that anyone with a straight face can say that Albert Haynesworth's absence IN RUN DEFENSE was why we allowed nearly 200 yards of rushing against the Giants! He doesn't want to play any defensive scheme that is not geared toward rushing the passer! That is where he plays and he wouldn't have been in rushing downs anyway!

The Albert Haynesworth horse is a dead one multiple times. He is a dud - a lazy miscreant that needs to be removed from the team. I seriously doubt Haynesworth has any trade value and he needs to be gone now.

If you had to work with such a lazy and arrogant worker as Haynesworth at your workplace, you'd be PO'd. And when you factor in he is the highest paid player on the site, you'd be even more angry.

Coach Shanny is old school - he may be inflexible and a jerk, but you can't question his desire to make the team better. When you look at Haynesworth, where do you see HIS COMMITMENT TO MAKING THE TEAM BETTER? All you see is his selfish behavior.

If you want to change the Redskins, you must slaughter the biggest sacred cow on the team.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Are you all kidding me? Who is the dumb MF to give anybody 100 million dollars and then rape the fans with these over priced tickets and concessions? Should have cut that lazy theif in the spring. Don't these people understand you are who you are. If you throw $100 million to a lazy human, you are still a lazy human being.So Dan & Albert deserve each other.LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Plato3 | December 6, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Are you all kidding me? Who is the dumb MF to give anybody 100 million dollars and then rape the fans with these over priced tickets and concessions? Should have cut that lazy theif in the spring. Don't these people understand you are who you are. If you throw $100 million to a lazy human, you are still a lazy human being.So Dan & Albert deserve each other.LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Plato3 | December 6, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Denver fired McDaniels.

Where oh where will Shanahan coach next year?

This years has been a mess in Washington starting with the RB and QB fiascoes. I would have kept Campbell and drafted a RT with the pick burned on a aged and ineffective McNabb.

Posted by: BigTrees | December 6, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

To AH's dad: guess you forgot to teach your son how to be a man, despite how big he might be physically. I think my 11-year-old boy knows more about that than Fat Albert does.

The Skins made the mistake of not biting the bullet and diving head-first into rebuilding THIS YEAR. The McNabb acquisition was a complete joke. You only do that if you're a couple of players away from contending. The Skins are not that team. McNabb was brought in to (hopefully) get a few more wins and keep fans' interest sufficiently high so ticket sales wouldn't suffer.

What's depressing is the Skins have so many needs in so many areas.

At WR, Armstrong has been a nice surprise but Moss (9th year) can't last forever and is slowing. There's no one else at WR worth mentioning and the Kelly-Thomas-Davis disaster could set the receiving corps back years.

RB? Portis has been a warrior but has taken so much punishment over the years he can't stay healthy. Torain hasn't been able to stay healthy either and Davis and Williams aren't long-term solutions.

QB? McNabb is 34 and has neither the wheels nor arm he once did. His accuracy is horrible and that leads to an inconsistency that makes long drives pretty much a rarity. Grossman and Beck are not NFL-caliber starters.

The offensive line is Trent Williams and the rest a bunch of mediocre guys (Rabach, Lichtensteiger, undrafted Heyer), ill-fitting (Dockery), non-starters from other teams (Hicks), or reclamation projects (Brown). I doubt, with so many other needs, they'll pay much attention to this absolutely critical area in FA or future drafts. But, as the Hogs proved, it's the core of the team, more so than any other component. Given Snyder's propensity to fill the glamor positions and ignore the line, I'm not sure the OLINE will ever get the attention it should; until it does, the Skins will suffer the same sub-mediocrity it has since Snyder acquired the team in 1999.

Defensively, London Fletcher is a true warrior but is in his 12th season; Daniels, another warrior, 14; Carter, 9 (31 yrs old). Others are castoffs who didn't work out on other teams (Kemo, Carriker) or guys doing their best but not playing their natural positions. What young guys with talent do the Skins have besides Orakpo and Landry? Hall and Rogers are above average but are 27 and 29, respectively.

The Eagles game pointed out how old and slow the Skins are. Jackson, Macklin, Vick, and McCoy (among others) ran circles around the Skins DEF, practically scoring at will thanks to the huge disparity in team speed.

Well, this has all been said before. But for this longtime Skins fan, several more seasons of tough times are on the horizon, and that's only IF they get serious about rebuilding SOON *and* allow consistency in the coaching staff. Otherwise, we'll patch holes here and there like we've been doing since Gibbs I, Snyder will get impatient and make more coaching changes, and this whole disaster will repeat over and over again

Posted by: johnwp | December 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

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