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All Quiet On Coaching Front/Fun With The Salary Cap

Fassel, Meeks and Mariucci have heard nothing as of this morning. No one called last night to inform them of their status, so they wait. Last I heard Snyder, Cerrato and minority owners were huddled talking things over late last night.

Lot of huddling these last four weeks. Wonder when they'll actually snap the ball?

But the endless pursuit of coaching greatness can not deter the Redskins from what they do best - play around with the salary cap. Oh, it's a magical quest really, getting down from $20 million over the cap. Converting high base salaries into new bonuses, adding years to contracts and then spreading that joy over multiple seasons.

Sexy, huh?

Anyway, for those interested in the minutia, the Redskins have reworked the contracts of 3 players thus far- Randy Thomas, Andre Carter and Antwaan Randle El, with at least a half dozen more to come. According to a source with knowledge of the situation, here's the breakdown:

Randy Thomas went from a cap figure of 8.0 million to 4.1
Andre Carter went from 4.9 to 2.8 (the team guaranteed his June 1 roster bonus of $2.4 million as part of the deal)
ARE went from 4.1 to 2.7

So the Redskins saved 7.6 mil in cap space with these moves. They're top 51 (salaries) for 2008 now stands at $132 million, $16 million over the cap, "by far the most in the NFL," according to my guy.

Now, again, don't panic. They'll trim $9 million on Chris Cooley alone and will easily end up with room to chase other free agents. They'll keep guaranteeing salary and pushing things back and extending contracts. But, I ask, as a practice, how much success - Ws and Ls, we're talking - has this strategy brought with it?

Well, regardless, the song remains the same. Restructuring season is upon us. Enjoy!

By Jason La Canfora  |  February 8, 2008; 9:26 AM ET
 
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What's your take on this gregmarino? After all, you have all the answers...you azzclown!

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

2nd

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

second

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is an unresponsive owner. The market is telling him his management practices have devalued the coaching position and he is deaf to it. There is no room in business for owners that are unresponsive to the market.

Posted by: mirf59 | February 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Very surprised thy didn't pull the Fassel trigger last nite. Or any trigger...

They have had plenty of time to deliberate and decide - something really stinks here.

Did Fassel reject an offer - or maybe they can't agree on some to terms? If Fassel is smart, he'll bargain hard for staff changes/more control.

Posted by: gdennie | February 8, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

The Danny, his cousin Vinny, and the minority owners all huddling about who to hire for coach? Hasn't this thing gone on long enough? Reminds me of all those play clock violations and timeouts the Skins had to call the past four seasons because they couldn't decide what play to call. Just pick someone! At this point it really doesn't matter since G. Williams is now in Jacksonville and all other candidates are mediocre at best. So much for continuity and building on what the Skins accomplished last season. I predict J. Campbell is out of here within two seasons.

Posted by: tasaking | February 8, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't get it, if we trimmed 7+ off the cap, how did we go from 20 mil to 16 mil incap, that's only 4 mil, not 7+?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

If they are over the cap by $20 mil and the cut $7 mil off the cap, how are they now only $16 mil over?

Posted by: cdachi | February 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Up to a point paying out cash over cap is fine (if you have the pockets which Dan does). However we need to start being careful about extending guys who are in their late 20's or early 30's - there will come a point where we are having to keep guys around at salaries way over their contribution level at the expense of younger talent.

Evry year it seems like we are staring at cap hell yet somehow it never seems to arrive ......

Posted by: martin | February 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

As a Redskins fan going to school in Buffalo, I'd like to point out that mood here is "Our team might be moving to Toronto, but at least we're not the Redskins".

Sad thing is, they're right. They've been 7-9 for two years in same division as the Patriots and haven't spent to the cap in a decade. Oh yeah, that and they have a real GM. Seems to help somewhat....

Posted by: jdavie | February 8, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: oilcart | February 8, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse


Personally I'm glad we're at least keeping those guys and they're not on the chopping block. You never know with this office.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

DreamOutLoud,

And why exactly would Cowher want to come here next year? For a lot of wealthy people out there, money doesn't become the reasoning behind decisions anymore.

I have a better chance of stealing Gisele away from Tom Brady then Snyder has of talking Cowher into coming here next year with the following:

a) a losing team, or why else would Snyder be looking for another coach already

b) a meddling, lunatic of an owner

c) Vinny, which equals not the control Cowher's looking for

d) everyone in the league telling Cowher he'd be a moron for coming here, most of those coming from first hand experiences from other players/coaches.

e) coaches that probably can't be replaced per direct orders from the 2 headed dummies

f) cap problems, again

g) circus environment and mass confusion

do I need to keep going...

for a guy who doesn't need the money, why come here and deal with all of the above?

nobody wants to come here anymore. once storied, we are now the laughingstock of the league.

Thank you, Dan! Thanks for everything.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 10:01 AM

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"the song remains the same"


Love the Zep reference!!!

Posted by: rallenii | February 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

A testament to Vinny Cerrato's keen contract negotiating skills to be sure.

And now that he's dug a deep hole for us, Snyder has rewarded him by giving him an even bigger shovel.

Posted by: skins.sox01 | February 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

So Jon Jansen is on the books for almost $8M this year.

That's a lot for a guy nearing his mid-30's

Posted by: smutsboy | February 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

These guys renegotiated their contracts because it was beneficial to them (i.e. having bonuses become guaranteed).

I have to believe that this debacle of a coaching search will have an impact when it comes time to renegotiate with players who the team wants to take a paycut. They saw what you just did to Greg Williams and Al Saunders and there is no coach in sight yet, so why would someone like Shawn Springs or Clinton Portis going to do anything to help the "team", when snyder isn't helping the team

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it is more but more time that pass without Dan contacting Fassel the better it is for us fans. Maybe Fassel isn't the man.

Posted by: jm220 | February 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or have Jason's recent posts had more of a venomous undertone against the skins than normal?

Do you think he reads what everyone writes and is trying to play to the fans hate of the organization?

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, what's left to huddle about? Contigency thinking should've already taken place, and a decision made. Sign the next coach, wait two years, fire him, and start over. Simple.

Posted by: jrizzo | February 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

at this point, can the Redskins even interview somebody new? they've sorta cornered themselves into Meeks/Fassel/Mooch options, right?

even though i don't want Fassel, if I were him I'd be pretty upset and being dangled out there for so long.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Playoffs two of the last three years. Seems like they're having at least SOME success, don't you think?

Posted by: wpost7 | February 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I have a better chance of stealing Gisele away from Tom Brady then Snyder has of talking Cowher into coming here next year with the following:

RB don't sell yourself short. Guys that sit on the internet all day trashing a sports team are on top of the list of what super models are looking for.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm jjwilson. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I enjoy ice cream and a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me I have an I.Q. of 48 and that I am considered mentally retarded.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Once again JLa shows how much disdain he has for huddling and reworking salary caps. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I feel like I keep hearing conflicting info about whether Mooch is in or out.

Posted by: saltynuts | February 8, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it is more but more time that pass without Dan contacting Fassel the better it is for us fans. Maybe Fassel isn't the man.

Posted by: jm220 | February 8, 2008 10:04 AM

They can't find him, he has been abducted by a group of fans until they hire another coach

Posted by: connskins | February 8, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

why don't you report on other teams and how they handle the salary cap and staying under it? i'd be surprised if other teams are not doing similar things even if they're not spending as much. we don't see high salaried players getting released in the offseason consistently for nothing. it is because of this. true enough, most teams man not have to continually restructure and convert salary to bonuses but it is what it is. if the oakland raiders franchise that cb, his 1 yr annual salary will be something like $9.45 million. is any corner worth that and his team having to absorb that much cap for one player? NO! there are a myriad of ways to manage. free agency has madated that. we have our way and others have theirs. regardless, only one team wins the superbowl and until 1 wins it year in and year out, let's withold the criticism.

Posted by: gregskins | February 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

sams,

every writer in the country is piling on the Skins right now, and for good reason... they look like clowns.

jason and everybody else in the football world is simply calling it like they see it.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

HIT

Posted by: saltynuts | February 8, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I am as furious as all of us over the retarded coaching search and the handling of Gwilliams, but....to say that we are a devalued franchise is plain stupid. We have been to the playoffs two out of three years...Raiders, Cardinals, Dolphins, Bills, Jets, Falcons, etc fans would give their teeth for two playoff spots. Do we have a meddling owner with an ego bigger than Mike Sellars head, absolutely...but we still went to the playoffs, those other teams have not. We have substantial talent on the roster, need more quality players, but why wouldnt a coach want to come here, huge salary, team with talent, largest stadium and revenue team in the league and in a premier market and conference.

Come on guys, I hate Snyder as much as you do, but to say we are devalued is ridiculour!

There are not many of these jobs around, it is more about poor timing at this point. Danny should have done whatever it would take to keep Joe for one more year and then start the process immediately to hire a successor, that would have kept continuity and generated more interest and kept us winning, which makes us more attractive.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Nice to know that JLC can make something like clearing cap space to improve the team seem like a bad idea. There are plenty of real things the organization is doing wrong that you can focus on. No need to invent others to fit your agenda.

Posted by: briank450 | February 8, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

hey sams,

nah, she's actually looking for the guy who sits on the internet all day defending Dan Snyder.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I think that Jason is pissed that he doesn't have an inside scoop to anything but contracts that are being reworked!

If I was a beat writer to a team that I didn't care much about anyway, and I was getting beat to scoops by an insider in Hawaii I'd be pissed too!

Posted by: dbussjd | February 8, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Jansen or Wade will be cut because of the emergence of Stephan Heyer.

Lloyd will be gone.

Daniels will play for only a $1 Mil.

That's just for starters........

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

so, whom would you pick if you were snyder right now (so don't include those who have withdrawn their names)?

My vote in this order:

1) Russ Grimm
2) Jim Zorn
3) Meeks/Mooch (flip a coin)

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | February 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

RB, I can't get on the internets(other than WP) due to being blocked at work, but can you back up what you're saying??

I'm not trying to start trouble, I'm just looking to find out if this is true? I mean surely the usual suspects, Don Banks, Pasquarelli have written something by now that will back up what you've said.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The Skins head coaching job is devalued, not the franchise itself.

The Skins are not a well-run organization, the owner is meddling, and you don't get to pick your staff.

Pretty straightforward case of a bad place to work.

Posted by: smutsboy | February 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Salary cap, shmalary cap. Doesn't apply to us. Jason hates it, but it's true.

Restructuring contracts is costing us wins? Laughable.

Stop the nonsense.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I think they are going to suprise everyone and announce that they have hired John Madden

Posted by: keithfbutler | February 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Watching this coach selection process (a Coachabingus, perhaps?) is much like watching Peyton Manning calling audibles through a game. First, you sit there and wonder just what the heck he's going to pull on you next. Second, after you watch him do it enough times, it eventually becomes vexingly annoying.

My rational side knows that some prudence is required, but this is getting a bit ridiculous. At this point, I'd settle for Janky Spanky....

Posted by: FlimFlam | February 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Geez greg, I guess being a network engineer making six figures makes me retarded. As opposed to your job being...well.. being the smartest guy with down syndrome at KFC; living the dream Greg....loser.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Hey Jason, can you explain to us why Russ Grimm hasn't been part of the search? I think a bunch of us would be very interested to hear the answer...

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Smutsboy...you are telling me that if you were a coach without a job, that you would not take $4M plus to coach for the Redskins, b/c of Snyder and the issues at Redskin Park...I highly doubt it.

We all know that Cowher wasnt going to coach this year anyways, so the franchise and owner had nothing to do with that. Same goes for Carrol, who I would never want. Mark my word, he will take USC down a nasty path.

I think Meeks would be a great coach, comes from a strong system with Dungy and would bring some integrity to the staff. He has experience winning, that is a key.

I have heard from former skins players that Grimm and Snyder do not get along well at Skins functions, could be why they wont look his way.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Snyder wants an offensive-minded coach, it seems. He should consider Norm Chow or June Jones.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

My letter to the owner

Dear Mr. Snyder,

You truly would think that owning a billion dollar franchise would help you put away your gazillion dollar ego and make you pay for a million dollar GM!

It's obvious that your method to this madness is just not working! This team has made the playoffs three times since you took over ownership. The first time was because of the team that Charlie Casserly put together, and the second and third because of the teams that Joe Gibbs put together.

Now, I'm certainly not a football genius, nor am I billionaire such as yourself. However, take a very close look at the premiere football teams in this league, and you will find one very obvious similarity about them. There owners pick a "PROVEN FOOTBALL GUY" to run the organization. They probably aren't any smarter than you are, but atleast they are wise enough to make this very easy decision.

For 30 years I've been supporting this team until the bitter end of every season. God willing, I will hopefully support them for another 60. However, with all of this being said, the way that you have changed the face of this prideful organization is embarassing. I don't understand how someone as successful as you can be so stubborn about the team that millions love.

Please do us all a big favor, and hire a football guy! Either that, or sell the team to someone that will so that us Redskin fans can once again feel the excitement of winnning a Superbowl!

Thanks,

A true fan!

Posted by: curtisprc3 | February 8, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

You know Jason, while I respect and appreciate your reporting, sometimes I get really tired of the constant negativity. When it comes to the salary cap, there are plenty of teams out there who supposedly do it the "right" way and always have lots of room under the cap yet never have anything to show for it. Same thing with the front office structure. Plenty of teams have conventional set ups but continue to be mediocre season after season. But to point that out wouldn't be any fun. It's sport around here to do nothing but criticize Snyder and the team. Yes, there have been enough bad decisions warranting criticism, but in the grand scheme of things he hasn't been an owner that long. I think we should be fortunate to have an owner who is so passionate about the team and wanting to win. Any idea how long it took the Rooney's to win a SB? Over 40 years!! And a bunch of em have never won diddly. I believe he's learned plenty since he bought the team and I'm willing to cut him the benefit of the doubt right now. Let's see how this all plays out. For the Redskins the salary cap is an artificial, almost meaningless, number. But it does provide you an avenue for criticism. Enough already.

Posted by: huskerskins | February 8, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Just announced on ESPN and the NFL Network: In a surprise move MARTY MORNINGWEG HAS BEEN OFFERED THE JOB and there will be a press conference at 3pm!

Holy crap....

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Lloyd is still on the team? I thought they just left him with the Jets on week 9

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"can you explain to us why Russ Grimm hasn't been part of the search?"

That's the question everybody would like to know.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Geez greg, I guess being a network engineer making six figures makes me retarded

POST

OF

THE

YEAR

No, the fact that you can't post without making a homophobic comment, or insulting someone makes you retarded.

Enjoy your 6-figure salary....lol...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Salary cap, shmalary cap. Doesn't apply to us. Jason hates it, but it's true.

Restructuring contracts is costing us wins? Laughable.

Stop the nonsense.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:18 AM

You don't think that's the case? You don't think that deters us from getting quality coaching candidates? It was one of the things mentioned in the Spagnolo dealings.

You don't think paying out all those contracts in bonus' doesn't affect ticket, parking, concession prices which in turn changes the dynamic on who goes to game? Did you ever go to RFK? Because I can tell you it aint the same crowd and it aint the same loud.

Do we have the same depth as say the Pats, Philly or the Steelers? No.

Do we manipulate the cap as well as any team in the NFL? Yes. But getting under it and getting the most of it are two different things.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Who the hell wrote, write about other teams in the Redskins blog, are you kidding me...I dont care about the seahawks, falcons, giants, etc. I am a skins fan wanting to know about skins stuff, douche.

JLac, keep it up, doing a great job.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

mhartz1:

no, what I am saying is that JLC is right: the Skins HC position has been devalued. Would I take a high paying job? Of course. But at this point the only attractive part of the job is the high pay.

The Redskins are not a sought after place for coaches to go. Simple as that.

Posted by: smutsboy | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Do you think the minority owners are telling Danny he is a F moron.

Or would that not be logical.

What if you had 10 mill in an organization and they made Vinny the VP.

But alas Dan aka (Danny boy the muffin Man) has made them money so why should they care.


I think we should admit now how much money we have given Dan over the years.

I am close to a 100 dollars.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

First everyone was saying that the players would not restructure because they hated what Dan did to GG now that we know they are restructuring I saw a post saying they will not take pay cuts because of what DS did to GG. Whats next they will not go onto the field.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

You're kidding me, right? Like how we joke about Fudge-ems being the new Left Guard?

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

There are 2 problems with the constant restructuring:

1) Players get their money upfront as their future salaries are converted into new signing bonuses. We've all seen the productivity bump in players in contract years...the inverse of that is that we will not get as much productivity out of players who basically have already gotten all their money. (See: Reciever, The)

2) When the players restructuring were in their 20s, it was not a big deal. But now we are setting up a situation (2010 looks bad for example) where when these players retire, the accelerated cap hit will be pretty devastating.

2a) At the extreme we get to the point where it is actually cheaper from a salary cap standpoint to keep a high priced older non productive player than to cut him. (See: Jansen, Lloyd)

The redskins will definitely get under the salary cap - but remember they need to set aside $5-$8 MM for draft picks, so they will need to be really restructuring a lot.

Posted by: cleary900 | February 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Salary cap, shmalary cap. Doesn't apply to us. Jason hates it, but it's true.

Restructuring contracts is costing us wins? Laughable.

Stop the nonsense.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:18 AM

Actually Jason did not say that it was costing us wins, he said it has not resulted in much success, and certainly no sustained success.

If the Patriots, Eagles, Colts and Chargers are the banner, and I think that is fair over the last 5 years, look at their cap management compared to ours. They have carefully managed the cap (too carefully in Philly I would agree) to have success.

Again I think it is VinnyDAN saying to everyone, I am the smartest guy in the room, and if you all do it this way, I am going to show you I can succeed by doing it differently. Great, if you succeed. I don't think you can call the on the field product during VinnyDAN's years a success.

Posted by: RedBee | February 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Chow's offense is a work in progress for the NFL. And, he consistently disparaged and undermined his young QB. That's why he was fired.

June Jones runs the run and shoot. The Bills ran a variant of it back during their 4 Super Bowl run, the old Oilers ran it pretty poorly with Warren Moon (and Klingler and Ware) at QB, and the Lions had marginal success with it back in the day (though one could argue that their success was due largely to Barry Sanders). While there has been some success with it at the pro level, only the Bills have ever translated it into conference championships, and no one has ever won a Super Bowl with it.

Personally, I'd love to see the run and shoot vs. GG or Belichick's defense. I'd be very curious how that offense fares vs. the linebackers and athletes of today, and I'd be really interested in seeing the adjustments on both side of the ball...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"can you explain to us why Russ Grimm hasn't been part of the search?"

That's the question everybody would like to know.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:26 AM

Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if I just missed some news about that, but then again it wouldn't surprise me at all that Snyder in all his infinite wisdom decides not to even consider interviewing a potentially solid head coach.

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I do greg enjoy my six figures. Can you tell me why they put that 12th spice in KFC chicken? I think it kinda ruined the taste.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I miss our beloved little cubes of poop.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

WOW! How quickly we forget. Not too long ago, when our beloved S.Taylor was taken from us... Jason was giving us EVERY detail before ANYONE else.

I too in training camp (my name was Hail to 'em) gave Jason such a hard time about not giving us the "scoop"

I I just want to remind everyone. He brought us together in a horrible time and if you take a deep breath, relax, and remember he is doing his best.

Coach search info... I don't think Snyder even knows what the F is going on how should he?

Whoever it is... we all know... we will LIVE and DIE with it... Monday mornings will either be happy or well... you all know what the Mondays are like after a loss.

Hail to 'em

Posted by: chris.woody | February 8, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I believe what Jasno was trying to say about the cap is simple: the way the Redskins have put themselves into the position of constantly restructuring contracts to stay under the cap is like taking a 2nd, 3rd and 4th mortgage out on your house to buy the next neat little sports car. At some point, you end up in mortgage hell, or with old players and big cap/contract numbers with little or no benefit. Has this strategy of mortgaging the franchise brought in the right mix of players, and kept the right mix of players to win a championship? Not exactly...

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

What kind of insider is JLC he needs to get his A$$ down to the park and find out what is going on I could have told evryone what he is reporting it is on ESPN is that all he does read ESPN and then report what he reads. Also stop being so negative toward what the team is doing and report facts.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Ah Joe, nice pull on fudge'ems. Word on the street is he wants out of his current contract so very well could be available with trade.

With the change in front office structure I have a feeling that Vindan will make a push to retain his services.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Man, I hate myself for this (it has a creepy Barno-ish feel), but Jasno, no retraction/statement on your Lazor post where you wrote

"...One of owner Dan Snyder's planes is en route to Phoenix, according to flight tracking software, which may or may not be related to the fact that Jim Fassel lives in Scottsdale..."?

I am aware that this is only a blog (so hamsters, you don't need to get off your wheels to admonish me), but you sent everybody scrambling down a path with that comment, making it seem like something was imminent. Turns out that was not true. At least write it as speculation/rumor or attribute it to sources.

I've defended Jasno against all the hating, and apprecaite your diligence but come on, have some accountability!

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Please tell me there is no validity to Marty Morniwheg being our new coach...

Why is no one making a case for Meeks, hell even Danny said he was a heck of a coach.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"You don't think that's the case? You don't think that deters us from getting quality coaching candidates?"

No, I don't. I think it's a big stretch to try to connect crowd noise to option bonuses. Sorry, not buying it.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

psp, you missed the point. But feel free to run around like a chicken without a head.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 08:56 AM

gregmarino, i think you missed my point. i have no and will hold no grudges against any coach that snyder decides to select. i'm probably the minority on this blog, but i actually feel that whoever the next head coach is, whether its fassel or mooch or meeks or whoever, he'll be successful... in his first year. i feel that there's too much talent on this roster to not be, and there's no way we're as unlucky with health/problems again. this team will win again next year regardless of who coaches. however, i don't think any of these current candidates have long-term value for this franchise. and that's where i have a problem with this.

just because the next coach may be successful next year does NOT mean that i think snyder went about this process the right way. he may look good a year from now when this team is in the position to make the playoffs, but that doesn't mean that he picked the proper candidate for the job. in my opinion, the top 2 candidates for the job walked away from him because he wasn't man enough to be decisive with his choice (GW and Spags). another top candidate IMO turned away because snyder has his hiring scheme backwards and refused to relinquish control (Carrol). He claims to be conducting as thorough and complete a process as possible, but then he declines to even interview a top prospect with ties to the redskins organization (Grimm).

Snyder has the ability to hire any coach he wants. No coaching prospect would refuse the chance to coach for such a storied franchise, a great fan base, a talented team coming off a playoff berth, and the salary Snyder pays his coaches. The ONLY reason coaches shy away from this job is because of Snyder and this FO. He has to practice his "due dilligence", makes every coach wait until 90% of their other job opportunities have closed, and it all results in them turning their back on Snyder. And what we have left are desperate candidates with no other options. This doesn't exactly inspire faith in Danny's search process.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Jla does hate Snyder but who can blame him. He is reporter and can't add and knows nothing about football. So that can affect things to some degree. See we should run more no we should pass more crap last year.

Just like Vinny can scout Snyder did things with the cap every followed. Snyder also makes lots of money with the Redskins.

The issue was giving up too much in draft and contracts up front. But the way he stays under the cap I don't have a problem with. And it is they way other teams with money do things.

The GM, classlessness, Ego and the rest that is the problem.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Jasno has venom toward the team, i.e. coaches and players. I think his venom is directed at the front office, as is ours. Really, they are two separate entities in the Redskins organization. I think Jasno likes the players and coaches for the most part. And let's be honest - most of us here (Redcoat and a handful of others excepted) are Skins fans. But we are NOT Danny/Vinny fans. We can root for the team and despise the front office. I think that's the same with Jasno. Granted, being from B'more, he's not necessarily a fan of the team, but I don't think he bears the coaches or players any ill will.

Posted by: jaradel | February 8, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

fassell sucks. i am depressed about my skins. this whole thing stinks

Posted by: rcc1207 | February 8, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Well, I live in Cincinnati, OH and I can tell you that everyone here thinks Chad Johnson is coming to DC to get out of Marvin's House...anyone excited about that?

I AM...He would fit in well in DC.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Geez greg, I guess being a network engineer making six figures makes me retarded. As opposed to your job being...well.. being the smartest guy with down syndrome at KFC; living the dream Greg....loser.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 10:20 AM

Making money doesn't make you any smarter; Dan Snyder

PS I don't have a dog in this fight but couldn't resist.

Posted by: Forrest | February 8, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is an unresponsive owner. The market is telling him his management practices have devalued the coaching position and he is deaf to it. There is no room in business for owners that are unresponsive to the market.

Posted by: mirf59 | February 8, 2008 09:58 AM

Mr Snyder has responded enough to the market to make the Redskins the most valuable sports franchise in existence. If we, as fans, feel that he (as a fan) should not be making any football decisions, then why in the world would he (as an owner) listen to any of us (as fans)as we attempt to guide him in making any football decisions?!

As a business man myself, I gotta believe that he has been quite effective in building quite a franchise. I know many owners in the NFL who would give their right arm to be in Dan's shoes.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

He can fight with Lloyd for 85. Perfect fit.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

SHEEEEit, Lloyd will be gone.

Everyone disliked the Rooney's until they won another Super Bowl, same with Kraft and Pats fans...

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

If the Patriots, Eagles, Colts and Chargers are the banner... look at their cap management"

No thanks, RedBee, I'm more inclined to look at their starting QB. (In the case of the Chargers, you have to also consider the RB.)

This line of thinking is similar to when the owner of the Bulls tried to claim that "front offices win championships." Um, no, Michael Jordan wins championships (unless he's 40 years old and playing for the Wiz).

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

As a business man myself, I gotta believe that he has been quite effective in building quite a franchise. I know many owners in the NFL who would give their right arm to be in Dan's shoes.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 10:39 AM

First DanBOT of the day.

Get some morality any way you can my brother. $$$$$$$$$$$$ does not mean everything in our world.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Everyone on ESPN Radio is calling the Redskins organization disorganized and a laughing stock this morning. This isn't meant as a reflection of the players or the coaches. It's aimed directly at Dan Snyder and the front office. We will never get a quality coach or amount to anything but mediocrity as long as he's running the team.

Posted by: bytme | February 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

First DanBOT of the day.

Get some morality any way you can my brother. $$$$$$$$$$$$ does not mean everything in our world.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM

Last I checked, business in this country is about making money. Say what you want to about me or Dan, but he is making a ton of it, and he has not resorted to cheating or any other "immoral" business practice. Not caving in to uneducated football fans is not considered immoral. It's good business.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

As a business man myself, I gotta believe that he has been quite effective in building quite a franchise. I know many owners in the NFL who would give their right arm to be in Dan's shoes.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 10:39 AM

First DanBOT of the day.

Get some morality any way you can my brother. $$$$$$$$$$$$ does not mean everything in our world.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM

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I thought the point of business was to make money. We are a capitalist society, despite those who are trying to redistribute the wealth.

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Mul...sounds like a Hillarybot, best gift ever, look it up online, Hillary Clinton Nutcracker...sheeeeit.

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 8, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

gotta stutter there, mul?

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"You don't think that's the case? You don't think that deters us from getting quality coaching candidates?"

No, I don't. I think it's a big stretch to try to connect crowd noise to option bonuses. Sorry, not buying it.


Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:34 AM

Joe, you don't think that a coach takes the cap situation into account when deciding on the merits of a postion? Sorry I have to strongly disagree to the point where I'd say you're being Naive. Especially in the case of the Cowhers of the world.

The Redskins have the highest game day costs in the NFL. This is certainly up for debate but I think that affects the crowd. The first play of the season against Miami, THE FIRST PLAY, the people behind me asked me if I could sit down. In RFK I rarely remember ever sitting down at all. But the first play of the year? Come on.

Home field advantage is real, ask Seattle.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Geez greg, I guess being a network engineer making six figures makes me retarded. As opposed to your job being...well.. being the smartest guy with down syndrome at KFC; living the dream Greg....loser.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 10:20 AM

JJ, who you picking on next those born with no hands, the homeless from the recent tornadoes or widows and orphans? May you enjoy your fancy car wrapped around a telephone pole you waste of a human soul!

Posted by: bangkokben | February 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me JLC (and most every other media outlet) is getting their info from a source of a source of a source of someone's grandma's source.

Snyderatto is not at the Park...my understanding is the only time they have been there was for the Monk/Green presser/ reception. The media goes to the Park every day and waits for....nothing.

Posted by: Lisa | February 8, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

For what it's worth...Mooch isn't on the set of NFL Total Access in Hawaii...c'mon Mooooch!

Posted by: tkawamoto22 | February 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

As for ESPN laughing at US, how about we laugh at them? Sean Salisbury taking pics of his "thing" and flashing it at women.....Dana Jacobs getting drunk and trashing Notre Dame...Mike Turico (years ago) hitting on and harassing female colleagues....even though he is married....I'm sure there is more.

Posted by: Lisa | February 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

True Lisa they have no room to laugh at anyone with all the crap that goes on there. Plus they have kept Burmen around worst personell move ever.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

bang, don't waste your breath...he's not worth it..

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Lisa:

Most on here don't consider those to be morality issues. Failing to blindly listen to uneducated fans and trying to earn a dollar are far more egregious sins to this crowd.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"The first play of the season against Miami, THE FIRST PLAY, the people behind me asked me if I could sit down."

Ha ha ha. The exact same thing happened to me at the same game. Maybe we were sitting next to each other.

I won't argue that the stadium experience sucks. It wasn't built to maximize crowd noise. Seattle's certainly was. Dan didn't build the stadium -- Jack did. That said, I agree that Dan has done little to make the stadium experience better or more fun.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Thats exactly what you do Ben...bangkoks with Greg.Later losers... try and do some work instead of being on here all day making cyberfriends.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

As poor as the coaching search is, F ESPN or any other media outlet that is bashing us. Remember a few years ago when TB got spurned by Parcells. The Glazer family was a laughingstock as they gave up picks to eventually land Jon Gruden. Won a Super Bowl. Last year, the Chargers were mocked for not naming a coach till late February. Ended up getting to the AFC champ game. Media is just as bad as fans, they are knee jerk and like to say the same things as the majority to feel good about themselves. If we win like we did in December they will be all over our jock and act like they knew it all along.

Posted by: cdubb | February 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Many have said Dan Snyder is lookig for the "sexy" hire. I don't think this is the case. Dan Snyder is going to run the team how he sees fit, regardless of how the fans feel. I think it's quite comical to read folks posting they'll boycott the Redskins. Don't kid yourselves. Come July and all the way through December you'll tuned into what they're doing. Especially id you're a die hard fan.

At first I wanted Gregg Williams to be promoted. Once he took the job in Jacksonville, I wanted Ron Meeks. Well it looks like it ain't going to be Meeks either. So at this point, it doesn't matter if Snyder hired Ronald McDonald to be the head coach because his most desirable prospect isn't quite ready to be a head coach.

Jim Zorn.

I think Snyder is trying to duplicate Jerry Jones in regards to putting the guy you eventually want to become head coach on the staff before you actually hire someone to be THE head coach. Snyder saw the success that Dallas had and how the offense looked under Jason Garrett. Of course as usual, Snyder wants his "yes man" and "do boys". This is why people like Cowher and Carroll will never come here. Besides, people have the drop on Dan Snyder and the Redskins these days. A dysfunctional franchise, with an inept and meddlesome owner that isn't going anywhere under Snyder.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I have to think that the longer this process goes, the less likely it'll be Fassel. The best person would be someone you can restore some dignity to the organizational structure, and I'm thinking that Fassel won't to that at this point.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The bigger question here is, why do the rescuers want Ben? And who is Ben's guy on the boat?

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

As I wrote yesterday, I don't know what kind of man hangs around waiting in the wings while his suitor goes out and flirts with everyone in the hope of finding something better. So very, very odd.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

try and do some work instead of being on here all day making cyberfriends.

Posted by: jjwilson312003 | February 8, 2008 11:06 AM

coming from the guy on the blog

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I have to think that the longer this process goes, the less likely it'll be Fassel. The best person would be someone you can restore some dignity to the organizational structure, and I'm thinking that Fassel won't to that at this point.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 8, 2008 11:07 AM

I agree. The Fassel momentum seems waning quickly.

I have no idea what these clowns are up to, but I suppose we'll know soon enough.

Posted by: gdennie | February 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

PD- Ever been on a job interview?

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

There you go...all the proof anyone needs that he makes a 6 figure salary. Intelligent, and well rounded...thats our jjwilson..

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Joe, those are OUTSTANDING questions.

For the Losties out there..."Time Travel" is the key to this season.

I loved this week's episode even more than last week's. Too much fun.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Why does everyone have a boner over Russ Grimm? We don't want Chad Johnson. He is a cancer. Trust me

Posted by: kilmer55 | February 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

>>> "PD- Ever been on a job interview?"

Not one like this! Though the last time I actually interviewed for a job was 13 years ago, and it was a 12 hour marathon session with 12 different people, culminating in courtside Sonics tickets and way too many hot dogs.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Dan does listen to the public? He hasn't said much so fans can't get too angry with him. All we hear is what we hear from ESPN and JLC and they can be wrong. So I'm not going to get too furious with him yet. Maybe he has someone in his back pocket (like Gibbs from last time) or he's trying to figure out the candidate that will get the most support with the coaches, players, and fans...all I can say is that it better be good or you guys will have his head...

Posted by: svxcountry | February 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what kind of man hangs around waiting in the wings while his suitor goes out and flirts with everyone in the hope of finding something better. So very, very odd.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:11 AM

The kind of guy who nobody else wants and is sick of covering games on Westwood One.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

>>> "PD- Ever been on a job interview?"

Not one like this! Though the last time I actually interviewed for a job was 13 years ago, and it was a 12 hour marathon session with 12 different people, culminating in courtside Sonics tickets and way too many hot dogs.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:16 AM

Well, if you were the only one being considered, why did they waste their time on the 12 hour interview, the tickets, and the hot dogs? They should have just prepared your desk for you.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Time to go running...I get to play the old DC game of "Spot the Secret Service". Senator Clinton was here last night, Senator Obama is here today, and Senator McCain is here tonight. The city is swarming with Secret Service, and both Clinton and Obama spoke/are speaking within 2 blocks of my condo.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Time Travel -- why do you say this? Because of the bunnies?

Last season ended so strong and this season has picked up right where it left off. Loving every second of it. How about this: "what's the monster?" I'm on the edge of my seat when Locke dropped that. Loving it.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I agree on the Lost tip and on Fassel.

Danny likes his power but he likes the splash too. What do we know about Fassel? The fans don't want'em. The rest of the NFL doesn't want'em. Heck, his best friend didn't want'em.

The longer this goes on the less chance there is that Fassel gets the job.

I didn't initially want Cowher but now I almost hope so.

I'd love to get Grimm.

I wouldn't mind Meeks.

I could live with Mooch (even though I don't necesarily think he's any better than Fassel.

I just don't want Fassel. I'll admit he's probably gotten a bad wrap but I don't want em.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

According to Peter Clayton at ESPN, Someone revealed anonymously that dANiEL snyder and vinny CerRATto joined the mile high club aboard one of Snyder's private jets headed to Phoenix last night. Things got so out of hand that the pilot had to make an emergency landing in Omaha, Nebraska, thus starting rumors that Tom Osbourne was the mystery candidate.

Posted by: jimwell | February 8, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Just announced on ESPN and the NFL Network: In a surprise move MARTY MORNINGWEG HAS BEEN OFFERED THE JOB and there will be a press conference at 3pm!

Holy crap....

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:25 AM

Any truth to this at all?

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Got them 3 Playoff appearance in the last 8 years ... compared to 0 in the 7 prior.

And two more playoffs wins than Dallas has had since 1997.

Posted by: theclevz | February 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Senator McCain is here tonight.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 8, 2008 11:19 AM

Diddy--

Here's a thought. Maybe you could get him to autograph a DVD -- "Heavy Metal Parking Lot" comes to mind -- and you could give it to Barno. I feel like this might help to patch up the bad feelings I'm detecting between you two.

Just a suggestion for you to consider.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Well, if you were the only one being considered, why did they waste their time on the 12 hour interview, the tickets, and the hot dogs? They should have just prepared your desk for you.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 11:19 AM

That's the difference between top candidates and the "plan B"s. You have to convince your top candidate to join you. Your "plan B" has to convince you he deserves it.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Nobody know's what's going on but Danny and Vinny. Anyone who says they do is full of crap. I won't believe anything until a Press Conference is held and the new coach is introduced. Even then I may still be skeptical.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"I'll admit he's probably gotten a bad wrap but I don't want em."

Exactly.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

OK the DanBots are full on out in the RI.

That means it is coming soon!

Jla may be out of the loop again.

F U * K you DanBots.

And give Dan my number I can be bought cheap.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

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Just announced on ESPN and the NFL Network: In a surprise move MARTY MORNINGWEG HAS BEEN OFFERED THE JOB and there will be a press conference at 3pm!

Holy crap....

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:25 AM
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How is it that we are not all talking about THIS now? have people not seen this dudes post or does everyone just ignore him because he is known for making crap up?

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what Mrs. Snyder does while Danny and Vinny have their 12 hour interview sessions??

Posted by: jimwell | February 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Showing your intelligence mul....you and jjwilson ever meet? Sounds like you guys share a brain...

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

How is it that we are not all talking about THIS now? have people not seen this dudes post or does everyone just ignore him because he is known for making crap up?

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 11:36 AM

SETH,

Personally, I'm waiting until I hear it from you before I'm willing to believe it.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

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Just announced on ESPN and the NFL Network: In a surprise move MARTY MORNINGWEG HAS BEEN OFFERED THE JOB and there will be a press conference at 3pm!

Holy crap....

Posted by: montybrns9 | February 8, 2008 10:25 AM
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How is it that we are not all talking about THIS now? have people not seen this dudes post or does everyone just ignore him because he is known for making crap up?

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 11:36 AM


Rule number 1 of the internet. Until proven otherwise always assume that everything you read is bs and that the author is a fat, balding 45 year old man living in his mothers basement.

I'm not knocking Marty at all. I'm saying as a general rule.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

dANiEL snyder and vinny CerRATto joined the mile high club aboard one of Snyder's private jets headed to Phoenix last night.

Posted by: jimwell | February 8, 2008 11:23 AM

jimwell,

Why don't you take your homophobic hate to some other website?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I would LOVE to see Marty up in here. The Eagles run that same style that Zorn would be running. The Eagles have had great offensive success until this past year, with crap players might I add. The skins would be on fire.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

OK here is my try out.

Fans don't know anything you are stupid and poor.

Media likes to make things up.

How do you know were you in the room.

You are not logical.

Dan gave poor teams money so the NFL would not have to fold.

Gibbs believes this is a good process.

Wait until next year.

Vinny wanted Marriman not CR.


GW is a Ass***L

Gibbs left with no warning.

There just are not any good coaches out there.

We had to sign the hole coaching staff lest they leave us.

Zorn is God.


Jeff who, that is way in the past.

We have a plan.

The waiting list is 155,000 people so don't give up the season tickets.

Yes We, can

my number is 555-5555

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

With the moniker laughingstock being thrown around so frequently on this blog I just want to share my two cents on the matter...the only thing that matters in this league is winning...if you win its pretty hard for people to laugh at you. Yes, the decisions this franchise is making are likely to impact our ability to win and thus cause us to be "laughed" at. BUT we just made the playoffs so for now, until we actually suck on the field, can we please take this time to laugh at the other non-playoff teams in the league. Jets, we beat you, you suck. Buffalo, call me after you win a Superbowl, you suck. Philly, you finished last in the division, you suck. Minnesota, your qb is retarded, you suck. SF good luck with Martz, you suck. Get the idea?!!!

Posted by: orangekjus | February 8, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

suck. SF good luck with Martz, you suck. Get the idea?!!!

Posted by: orangekjus

What if you can't talk about your own team with fellow fans without the giggles.

I can't but I am a 12 year old girl.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What if you can't talk about your own team with fellow fans without the giggles.

I can't but I am a 12 year old girl.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:49 AM

Is this supposed to make sense?

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

It's a redo. Interview Grimm, Ron Riviera, Singletary and others. Need someone current (now coaching), not too old, and not a retread/avg. coach (Fassel).

The fact that Gibbs resigning was a surprise to Snyder -- and that's the excuse for this fiasco excuse of a HC process -- is nonsense. Any decent front office would have had a running short list of HC candidates and a pretty good idea of who to hire. And that list would not have included Fassel.


Posted by: james7691 | February 8, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

You know, I wish we had a good place for information without commentary! Just the facts, please!

I get it Jason, you dislike how the skins are run. However, you very much enjoy stoking the fire whenever you get a chance.

The ONE thing the skins do well, is manage the cap. They have NEVER gone through cap hell, even with huge salaries and huge player egos! They have only let players go when they felt the player was not worth the money, which we could blame most of those moves on your beloved G Williams (Arrington, Pierce, etc). The Redskins and their fans have very little to hang our hat on, especially this week, please let us have "good cap management." ;o)

Posted by: sopplayer | February 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Yes I was in the like for Hillary and was talking to people about our team.

People kept laughing.

= Laughing Stock.

If JKC sr. were running the team do you thing Spags would not have jumped at the job.

This is beyond stupid. I know you are not a DANBOT but they our out now so try not to agree with them today.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

line not like

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Yes I was in the like for Hillary and was talking to people about our team.

People kept laughing.

= Laughing Stock.

If JKC sr. were running the team do you thing Spags would not have jumped at the job.

This is beyond stupid. I know you are not a DANBOT but they our out now so try not to agree with them today.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 11:57 AM

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That really clears it up???

I think mul's officially lost it. This HC job search has just been too much to handle.

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

JASON IS ON ESPN....2

Posted by: elliottschwartz | February 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

elliottschwartz let us know what he says.

Posted by: jm220 | February 8, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

JLaC said he has no idea what's going on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

JLaC said he has no idea what's going on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 12:07 PM

You know the media are desperate once they start interviewing each other.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like maybe we (by that I mean the 'Skins FO) just need to start over. Wipe the slate clean.

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

You know the media are desperate once they start interviewing each other.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 12:09 PM

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So true. Especially since Jasno has really no "inside" information most of the time.

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Bram says that Meeks is the #1 candidate on his list. hen Mooch.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 8, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the Marty Morninwheg comment because he spelled the name so wrong - and because Marty isn't mentioned in Wikepedia. Danny won't take someone who hasn't been wiki-fied.

Posted by: kickinblonde | February 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Dan just offered me the head coaching job.

Should I take it. What are the pros and cons?

Needs some help people.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Marty Morninweg was the guy who kicked off in OT of a game because he wanted to play with the wind. Under no circumstance should this guy be interviewed for a head coaching gig.

Posted by: cdubb | February 8, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I am glad are insider know's as much as the average fan nothing. There was nothing reported on MM that is a joke post. I would like Meeks I think he would do a good job but if it is him get it done already. I think if it was Fassell they would have announced it already.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel is still with the Redskins and he's a proven Redskins leader and legend. He would maintain continuity and fan support. Hire Buges and announce it this afternoon!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

JLaC said he has no idea what's going on.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | February 8, 2008 12:07 PM

He's just making that up!

not barno

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder asked Vinny Cerrato to marry him...after thinking it over for 28 hrs, he is reported to have declined...so a plane has been sent to pick up Tom Cruise.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Pro - Mo Money

Con - Mo Money, Mo Problems

Posted by: curtmcgurt | February 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel is still with the Redskins and he's a proven Redskins leader and legend. He would maintain continuity and fan support. Hire Buges and announce it this afternoon!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:20 PM

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Yes ! Hire Buges !!! and go on to a 6-10 season !

These are the days of our lives.....oh the humanity !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel contributed to all that's great in our memories about the Skins. Don't sell him short!!!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder asked Vinny Cerrato to marry him...after thinking it over for 28 hrs, he is reported to have declined...so a plane has been sent to pick up Tom Cruise.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 8, 2008 12:22 PM

Where are all the homophobes coming from today? Extremeskins?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

We all love Buges, he give great quotes and is a great line coach. He was an awful coach in Arizona though.

He should go and beg GG to take the position. He's still the best man for the job.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel contributed to all that's great in our memories about the Skins. Don't sell him short!!!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:25 PM

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Buges is yesterday's news he had a glowing record with the Phoenix Cardnials and Oakland Raiders of 24-56 yep, bring him on !

The glory days are gone

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

If the Patriots, Eagles, Colts and Chargers are the banner... look at their cap management"

No thanks, RedBee, I'm more inclined to look at their starting QB. (In the case of the Chargers, you have to also consider the RB.)

This line of thinking is similar to when the owner of the Bulls tried to claim that "front offices win championships." Um, no, Michael Jordan wins championships (unless he's 40 years old and playing for the Wiz).

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM

Funny though, even though we have a young QB to build around a quality back, we keep finding ourselves looking for a quick fix under VinnyDAN. Iggles, Chargers and Colts did a little planned suffering to come out on the other end victorious. The Patriots struck gold in the 6th round, I will grant you that, but spun gold with the rest of the players around him the first three SBs. And when the time came to make a big purchase, they had the room and atmosphere.

VinnyDAN has said that you don't need to manage the cap from the bottom, you can manage it from the top. Keep converting salaries, bonuses, etc. Maybe he is right, maybe he is smarter then everyone else, but JLC is right, the product on the field does not yet show that.

AND . . . I don't think JLC hates the Skins, or even Snyder, I think he gets frustrated with their machevillian ways and the constant air of being superior. Heck, no one likes that attitude from Belichek, and he WINS.

I have said it before and I will keep saying it. VinnyDAN's way of doing things buys him NO goodwill with the fans or the NFL. He has no margin of error or latitude with us. If he wins, we will all eat humble pie and congratulate him for in fact being the smartest guy in the room. If he does not, we won't say he got bad breaks, or how hard it is to win in the NFL, or good try, we will roast him for thinking he was so smart he did not have to do it the way everyone else does.

His ATTITUDE causes him more problems then his decisions. But most of his decisions have sucked too.

Posted by: RedBee | February 8, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Right, that's me going home to get ready for a weekend away. When I return on Monday I fully expect there to be a new HC in place here so that there can be an end to all this madness!! If there isn't then I'll do the bloody job myself!

Have a great weekend people!

Posted by: tartanskin | February 8, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I applaud Sally Jenkins for telling the truth about Snyder in her column in Wednesday's Post. As scathing as it was, it wasn't tough enough on Snyder. I laughed when Spagnoulo pulled out; his wife must have read the column. Snyder may be rich, but money never bought class. And while he may know the cost of everything, he has shown he knows the value of nothing. It is a measure of Joe Gibbs's greatness that he could go to the playoffs two out of three years with such an albatross of an owner.

Posted by: Jeb_Brown | February 8, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Sure Buges had a rough time with the Cardinals, but it's not like they were the 49ers, Skins or Cowboys. THEY WERE AZ! Buges is a leader and besides, would you rather have Fossil over Buges?

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are expecting....

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Bram says that Meeks is the #1 candidate on his list. hen Mooch.

Posted by: marlonjohn | February 8, 2008 12:13 PM

Bram is an tool. I don't trust that jerk as far as Danny Wuerffel can throw him. He would crush Snyder on the air for years at 980 and he was one of the first to take his money once Red Zebra came along. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on Redskin One taking Danny on the Mile High Club...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

THE SMARTEST AND MOST CREATIVE SOLUTION OF ALL.

Hire Bill Cowher and immediately give him a 1 year leave of absence. Don't have him start until 2009. In 2008, have Greg Blache as acting HC.

That gives Cowher the time he wants. Blache was thinking retirement, but he could do this for a year and probably love it. No more egos get bruised beyond those already bruised. No new HC has to accept the staff.

It really is a good solution ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

While there is no news on the coaching search (what else is new), at least we can revel in the misery of other teams (especially the patriots) go sign this petition if you haven't already:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?XLIItrut&1

It was originally meant to be a forum for pats fans to whine about being "cheated" in the superbowl, but its turned into pure hilarity. (Credit to KSK)

Posted by: jrickard | February 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Sure Buges had a rough time with the Cardinals, but it's not like they were the 49ers, Skins or Cowboys. THEY WERE AZ! Buges is a leader and besides, would you rather have Fossil over Buges?
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Joe Bugel
Overall: 24 - 56
Playoffs: 0 - 0

Year Team Season Playoffs
1990 PHO 5 - 11 - 0 -
1991 PHO 4 - 12 - 0 -
1992 PHO 4 - 12 - 0 -
1993 PHO 7 - 9 - 0 -
1997 OAK 4 - 12 - 0 -

Jim Fassel
Overall: 58 - 53
Playoffs: 2 - 3

Year Team Season Playoffs
1997 NYG 10 - 5 - 1 0 - 1
1998 NYG 8 - 8 - 0 -
1999 NYG 7 - 9 - 0 -
2000 NYG 12 - 4 - 0 2 - 1
2001 NYG 7 - 9 - 0 -
2002 NYG 10 - 6 - 0 0 - 1
2003 NYG 4 - 12 - 0 -

You do the math..............

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

" I don't trust that jerk as far as Danny Wuerffel can throw him."

That is funny.


Cohwer won't happen because Danny doesn't seem to want to believe that he sucks as a GM. If nothing else comes out of this at least with any hire but a Cohwer Danny now has the rope in which to hang himself. Swing Low Danny

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"Last I heard Snyder, Cerrato and minority owners were huddled talking things over late last night."---JASNO


To paraphrase JFK, never has so much football savvy, native intelligence and measurable intellect been gathered in one room since that Slingblade guy dined alone.

Posted by: corkczar | February 8, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Cohwer won't happen because Danny doesn't seem to want to believe that he sucks as a GM. If nothing else comes out of this at least with any hire but a Cohwer Danny now has the rope in which to hang himself. Swing Low Danny

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 12:36 PM

As they say in Golf Weekly "caught in a nose"

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel
Overall: 24 - 56
Playoffs: 0 - 0

Year Team Season Playoffs
1990 PHO 5 - 11 - 0 -
1991 PHO 4 - 12 - 0 -
1992 PHO 4 - 12 - 0 -
1993 PHO 7 - 9 - 0 -
1997 OAK 4 - 12 - 0 -

Jim Fassel
Overall: 58 - 53
Playoffs: 2 - 3

Year Team Season Playoffs
1997 NYG 10 - 5 - 1 0 - 1
1998 NYG 8 - 8 - 0 -
1999 NYG 7 - 9 - 0 -
2000 NYG 12 - 4 - 0 2 - 1
2001 NYG 7 - 9 - 0 -
2002 NYG 10 - 6 - 0 0 - 1
2003 NYG 4 - 12 - 0 -

You do the math..............

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Yes, Buges lost with AZ and OAK as most folks do. Fassel went 4-12 with the Giants and let a team with no "O" at all put up 35 on him in the Super Bowl. A true Redskins fan will vote for a Redskin Man!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Embarrassing, how devalued is this job? League laughing stock!!

Thanks Dan, good job........

Posted by: mmeeskins | February 8, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

THE SMARTEST AND MOST CREATIVE SOLUTION OF ALL.

Hire Bill Cowher and immediately give him a 1 year leave of absence. Don't have him start until 2009. In 2008, have Greg Blache as acting HC.

That gives Cowher the time he wants. Blache was thinking retirement, but he could do this for a year and probably love it. No more egos get bruised beyond those already bruised. No new HC has to accept the staff.

It really is a good solution ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 12:33 PM

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LOL, you need to be in Hollywood...or over at 6 flags, fantasyland is a good fit for you !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

This line of thinking is similar to when the owner of the Bulls tried to claim that "front offices win championships." Um, no, Michael Jordan wins championships (unless he's 40 years old and playing for the Wiz).

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | February 8, 2008 10:43 AM

Dude, if you've watched more than one season of football/basketball, you'd know that you can't compare those two sports. Two completely different dynamics involved in building a winner.

It's exponentially harder to win and build a winner in football, making it extremely crucial to have a strong front office. In basketball, if you've got 2 or 3 stars and some role players who know their roles and play them well, you can win regardless of who the coach or GM is. In football, there's so much turnover because of free agency and the roster size, that you MUST have a front office capable of handling that. That's why the Redskins were so successful in the 80s (strong front office, not many stars on the roster but good depth) and are so mediocre now (really talented, front-loaded roster, PooPoo Platter in the front office).

The irony in that comparison, however, is that if Snyder owned a basketball team, it would probably be pretty good (i.e.-Mark Cuban). Then again, Cuban know he's not qualified to run the basketball operations...

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

THE SMARTEST AND MOST CREATIVE SOLUTION OF ALL.

Hire Bill Cowher and immediately give him a 1 year leave of absence. Don't have him start until 2009. In 2008, have Greg Blache as acting HC.

That gives Cowher the time he wants. Blache was thinking retirement, but he could do this for a year and probably love it. No more egos get bruised beyond those already bruised. No new HC has to accept the staff.

It really is a good solution ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 12:33 PM

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Hire Cowher as Special Assistant to the Owner and make Joe Bugel the interim HC.

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

A true Redskins fan will vote for a Redskin Man!

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A true Redskin man knows when to accept the truth and be smart instead of going with the heart !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

A true Redskins fan will vote for a Redskin Man!

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This type of flawed thinking had me excited for the Snyder led group to gain ownership of the skins in '99

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

A true Redskin man knows when to accept the truth and be smart instead of going with the heart !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:47 PM
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OK, I'm just busting chops and know we're all true Redskins, but can you spell out why Fassel would be "smart" for the
Skins?

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Who cares if media people think this team is a laughing stock most of them have never even played football the teams that we beat lastyear or played tuff know that this team is not a laughing stock. How can the job be devalued no one has even been offered the job to say no. We do not know what has been going on in the interviews so speculating that the people they interviewd did not want to come here is stupid. Lets see what happens and we will show next year we are no laughingstock.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

The minute Spags left town, I believe the duo had decided on their man.

The most likely reason for the delay now is that they cannot agree on terms.

This is a very concerning development.

Posted by: gdennie | February 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Who cares if media people think this team is a laughing stock

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM

The problem is when other players and coaches regard us as laughingstocks. It makes it hard to attract free agents or to retain your own players.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Just throwing this out there (not going to claim any sources that don't truly exist)...
Is it possible that Snyder/Cerrato are trying to pull off another Gibbs-like surprise and announce thye hiring of a coach that was never previously reported. After all, I find it extremely unusual that Brian Billick's name has never been mentioned throughout this process. He beat Fossil in the Super Bowl, is only one year removed from 13-3 season, and apparently is really good at talking and selling himself to his players(something that would also help in during his marathon interview).

Posted by: skinsfan_81 | February 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Since when is hiring a coach who in his last year went 4-12 and hasn't been able to keep a job since his last year - four years ago - the smart thing? BTW, 15.2 points per game, 28:53 in time of posession, and a minus 16 in turnovers. Hmmmn. Smart.

Posted by: bangkokben | February 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'm just busting chops and know we're all true Redskins, but can you spell out why Fassel would be "smart" for the
Skins?

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Fassel over Buges, in this instance, Buges is a sentimental favorite. That does not translate to wins. As far as Fassel being smart for the Skins.......well, his assistants are already in place, it seems logical...might not be the fan favorite but if the Skins go 9-7 again and make the playoffs, it will not have been a bad move.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

You did not read the rest of my post I said players and coaches we faced last year no this team is not a laughingstock I'll bet the Giants were not laughing when we kicked there A$$ in there stadium.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Arnold Ziffell is now the front runner, if he would just stop watching that d*** tv.

Posted by: pat5387 | February 8, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Can all the DanBOTS please stop trying to sell us on Fassell and trashing everyone else. It is pitifully transparent. Fossil hasn't been interviewed for 2 years despite plenty of active lobbying (see: KC), so unless this FO is so supersmart that it knows something everyone else doesn't please don't tell me that this is a great hire. Players and coaches and fans liked GG.

This wouldn't have been that hard to get right.

Posted by: cleary900 | February 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Is there any salt to the question:
{Could Daniel Snyder be talking with a certain coach (either of the 3 Jasno mentioned) and has told them not to say anything to reporters until an official 'by Danny's side' presser would take place?}

Where's the CIA guy that checks phone records and flight plans?

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I hate Billick as much as Fassel. HIs overinflated ego would fit well with Snyder though. He did nothing to win the Ravens a Super Bowl. That was all defense and Jermaine Lewis. He was supposed to be an offensive genius but couldn't get anything done on that side of the ball in 8 years.

Posted by: cdubb | February 8, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If owning a mural of a shirtless Dan Snyder riding a winged unicorn over a burgundy and gold rainbow makes you a DANBOT, well then, I'm guilty as charged!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of this...

its friday, where's the jibba jabba?

TCCLs?

That's it, I'm doing the crossword.

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Hannah Montana just threw her name into the coaching search lol.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

OK Dorf. How about an eleven letter synonnym for Redskins that Rhymes with Mustard Truck.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I hate Billick as well but as good as there front office is supposed to be they never gave him much on offense to work with he never did get a good quarterback. But please do not bring him here.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout hiring Richard Simmons?

You see how he was whipping those ESPN anchors into shape? Plus his motivational skills are incomparable. Can you envision him with Vinny and Danny at Mortons?

"Yes, a table for three with two booster seats, please."

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

cluster duck?

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

that's it... I'm doing the sudoku now...

5 TCCLs for Man Boobs. May you keep the weight off and enjoy the Florida sun. Enjoy not working with Dan and Vinny!

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Davo61 - I did the math and the answer is they both stink as HC for this team. Sure Buges is a link to the glory days and would be a hell of an interview infront of the cameras, i'm not sure on this, but didn't Gibbs 2.0 lure him off the fishing boat to come back to coaching? hey I love the guy but I don't think he's the answer for the Redskins, and don't bring up continuity, Danny threw that out the window when he didn't hire GW. I'm not sure who the right guy is (like I have a say) but I do know this "The blog bashings will continue, until morale improves"

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Dorf, if you find yourself doing the Jumble, seek help immediately.

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 8, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

At this point the public relations campaign is going to be the reason they have not announced the coach. They probably know who it is, they just don't know how to sell it yet.

Posted by: driley | February 8, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

All the whiners and internet-messageboard-fighters need to do one of two things.

Either

1. Change your tampon

or

2. Hit the bong

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 8, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Redskins Insider is where I go when nothing interesting is going on in life... I lead a very interesting and exciting life obviously.

friday afternoon planning... not really my most productive time of the week.

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato are expecting....

Posted by: greg_hughes90 | February 8, 2008 12:32 PM

But my high school health teacher told me you can't get preggers from autofellatio . . .

Posted by: RedBee | February 8, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder makes me poop in my pants

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 8, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

good point driley, Synderrat are probably consulting with Tom Cruise's PR people and they're suggesting Dan the Man the "Big Splash" Fan goes on Oprah's show and jump all over her couches while announcing the new HC. And I'm not trying to be glib.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that thinks that the writer here doesn't have an Anti-Snyder agenda is crazy. He obviously loathes the man, probably for good reason, and he brings that vitriol to his blogging.

There's nothing wrong with that, but to say the he's just "calling it like he sees it" is a little naive. I do think he finds reasons to bash the organization, even if he occasionally has to invent or spin them.

Luckily for him, though, the front office here is such a joke that they continually provide him with the ammunition he needs.

Hecould have just talked about the salary cap situation today though without inserting his personal bias against the front office once again. It get's kind of tired, in my opinion, and makes the writer sound petty and vindictive, just like Snyder.

Posted by: amcginl00 | February 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

maybe Fassil has decided to open another Quiznos.......

Posted by: Oldschool | February 8, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

No one is forcing anyone here to read this blog. If you don't like Jason's tone, you can go somewhere else can't ya?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 8, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

amcginl00, I thought that's what blogs were for, bringing all that vitriol, which you yourself have now brought to the blog. welcome to the dark side!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

im tired.

Posted by: svxcountry | February 8, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I take Vitrol for my E.D.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I take Vitrol for my E.D.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 01:39 PM

lol

Posted by: jm220 | February 8, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

How can the job be devalued no one has even been offered the job to say no.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM

How could you possibly know that?

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

For Christmas, I received a gift pack of five different kinds of hot sauce, all of which are quite nice.

Of the five, three are named not for what they taste like, but for what they will do to me.

Specifically, what they will do to me....down there.

Posted by: freakzilla | February 8, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

How could you possibly know that?

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 01:41 PM

Because the media knows everything, and no one in the media has said the job has been offered...

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

brownwood26

your comparison about why we won in the 80's and early 90's makes no mention of the fact that this is now the era of the salary cap. teams don't have loyal guys tha stay with them for 20 years like Darrel Green did here. its rare now. some guys fight their guts out regardless of the salary and others have $ at the forefront.

also, for those who talk about how deep teams like New England and Pittsburgh are, good depth only becomes known when starters go down to injury or leave the team. after Sean Taylor was murdered, Doughty, other than his first game, played at a high level. same with some of the corners and lineman. New England has good front line talent but their reserves from top to bottom aren't that much greater than ours. their success, as with those on other teams, is the result of coaching, the scheme, team chemistry and other variables.

Posted by: gregskins | February 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

How could you possibly know that?

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 01:41 PM

Well, duh! we know that because JLC hasn't told us anyone has been offered the job yet, of course.

Posted by: svxcountry | February 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

How can the job be devalued no one has even been offered the job to say no.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM

How could you possibly know that?

Because none of the candidates or there agents reported being offered the job.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

How's this for the darkest thought of the day:

Snyder is young enough...he could be the Redskins' owner for another 50 years.

Posted by: redskirt | February 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"No one is forcing anyone here to read this blog. If you don't like Jason's tone, you can go somewhere else can't ya?
Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 8, 2008 01:37 PM"

Poopy_McPoop,

ever read the legal blurb right below the "Post a Comment" title and right above the text window you type in. It clearly explains why He can not like Jasons tone and still come here:

"We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features."

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

How can the job be devalued no one has even been offered the job to say no.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 12:51 PM

That's even worse. They say no before they even get offered.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder makes me poop in my pants Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | February 8, 2008 01:26 PM

Poopy, are you really Tyra Banks?

http://gawker.com/353969/tyra-banks-may-have-had-an-unfortunate-accident

I am shocked at the levels of immaturity to which I am sinking today. Sigh...

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 8, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

People taking Jasno to task for speculating on a blog? I thought that was the point.

Oh, by the way, when someone says it "MAY OR MAY NOT BE..." they pretty much are saying "I'm just guessin, I don't know."

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | February 8, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

At this point the public relations campaign is going to be the reason they have not announced the coach. They probably know who it is, they just don't know how to sell it yet.

Posted by: driley | February 8, 2008 01:22 PM

Actually, it kind of sounds like the PR campaign we did before we went into Iraq. Maybe Colin Powell could use a little spending money now?

Posted by: driley | February 8, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

hey I love the guy but I don't think he's the answer for the Redskins, and don't bring up continuity, Danny threw that out the window when he didn't hire GW. I'm not sure who the right guy is (like I have a say) but I do know this "The blog bashings will continue, until morale improves"
Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008
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Good call about Buges kelly.

PS as long as Snyder owns the team moral will be lower than whale dung.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I was really hoping that Marty Morniwheg rumor had some validity to it. He's WCO and not fassel which ultimately makes him the top remaining candidate in my mind.

I'm still holding out home that snyder makes cowher an offer he can't refuse - like $10M and personnel/FO decisions (i.e., if you dont like vinny or the coaching staff, let me know and i'll fire them all)

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Best post by Jasno in a long long long time! it was well thoughtout, coherent and showed off his writing (as oppose to his reporting skills only) skills. very well done sir! i guess you had a bit more time.

Posted by: dealer | February 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

You know this is down right stupidity...just name a f- -k- -g coach already! Didn't they have their choice prioritized, geez this is so embarrassing...

Posted by: papaskynz | February 8, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm still holding out home that snyder makes cowher an offer he can't refuse - like $10M and personnel/FO decisions (i.e., if you dont like vinny or the coaching staff, let me know and i'll fire them all)

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 01:49 PM

someone's clinging to a fantasy here.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Talk about cap hell...

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/08/larry-fitzgerald-contract-cripples-cardinals/

10% in 1 player? Hey Dan - look, another role model!

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

He could have just talked about the salary cap situation today though without inserting his personal bias against the front office once again. It get's kind of tired, in my opinion, and makes the writer sound petty and vindictive, just like Snyder.

Posted by: amcginl00 | February 8, 2008 01:30 PM

There are 32 teams in the NFL. At the end of the 2007 season, 31 of those teams were below the projected salary cap for 2008. Only 1 team (your Washington Redskins!) was above the projected cap, to the tune of more than $20 million. Anyone with half a brain would be critical of such a situation. You, as a fan, should be critical of that situation, as there have been no real positive results gained from playing the salary cap game as played by the Redskins FO. And JLa is being critical of the situation and the top management of the team, because the strategy has not been working.

However, because of fans like you, Snyder feels empowered to continue on the same ill-defined path that no one else in the NFL follows. So just keep throwing money at him, through ticket sales and merchandise sales and the like, and you will continue to get the same lame product that Snyder has delivered for 9 years.

Hail to the Moneychangers!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"... and the death cries will peter out into heated arguement between the idiots who think we have to draft a DE and the idiots who know that WR is the important position. ..."

Posted by: daggar | February 7, 2008 11:50 PM

Michigan degree
There is nothing WRONG with that
No arguEment here

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Just when we thought the head coach fiasco was our only problem, La Canfora reminds us about our Salary Cap doom, $20 Million + over the salary cap, more than twice any other team.
Talk about borrowing from Peter to pay Paul. This has been dan and Vinny's strategy for the last 7 years.
At this rate, our next head coach might be Jerry Glanville !!!

Posted by: RollyMac | February 8, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

teden, conventional wisdom is that the Cards MUST cut Fitzgerald (and eat the dead cap space) ... right after they fire the guy who agreed to those contract escalators.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT! COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!

What PFT.com just posted:

"POSTED 1:44 p.m. EST, February 8, 2008

ANOTHER TAKE ON CINCO STINK

On Thursday, Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com reported that Bengals receiver Chad Johnson shoved a league media relations employee in an effort to get away from national reporters assembled in Hawaii to get some sound from him.

.........

The excuse for his behavior?

"Consistently, I've done it," he told NFL Network, the one news outlet with whom he'll converse. "I haven't done it perfect, but consistently at a high level. I get out of line at times, but what great one doesn't? What great one doesn't get emotional? Find me a great one who hasn't done it like that and I'll be quiet."

Here's one, Chad. His name is Art Monk.

Now shut your f--king mouth.
"


Now. This is what I posted this morning:


"Chad Johnson on his behavior as of late:

"Johnson admitted Thursday on the NFL Network that he has "gotten out of line every now and then." But he added, "What great one doesn't? What great one is not emotional about what he does? What great one does not have passion about what he does? What great one hates losing?

"Find me a great one that doesn't do the same things that I've done in the past and I'll stop playing. Period."
"

Ah..Dude?? Art Monk.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2008 05:04 AM

"

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I never said I didn't enjoy the blog. I think it's a great source of info on the Skins, the best I can find. That's why I read it. I just think the writer sounds petty sometimes.

Posted by: amcginl00 | February 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The cap situation is overinflated. We have all our major players under contract, don't need significant cap room for re-signing our FA's, and we have several players able and willing to restructure their deals to get us under the cap (as reported by JLC above). On top of that, we'll be releasing some useless money (Brunell, Lloyd), unlike other teams that need to release studs in order to stay under the limit. We'll be fine for signing draft picks, and we'll be able to sign UFA's as well. Everyone relax...

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

wow, if he sounds petty, how the hell does that make the rest of us sound?! stick around amcginl00, I like this blog too, but I hope he doesn't get out scooped when this whole thing breaks loose...

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Talk about borrowing from Peter to pay Paul. This has been dan and Vinny's strategy for the last 7 years.
At this rate, our next head coach might be Jerry Glanville !!!

Posted by: RollyMac | February 8, 2008 01:54 PM

Actually, you should be looking to the business world for people like Jeff Skilling or Angelo R Mozilo. They're experts on creative finance.

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE PEOPLE I have the answer. Sitting here at home playing some Madden, broke my foot at work so laid up for a bit, and got to thinking and i think I have an answer to our coaching woes. Lane Kiffin folks, there it is drink it in. Now here me out hes not a bad coach and compare him to Fassel and he begins to look real good. He has experience dealing with a psycho owner, heck "The Daniel" probably looks good to him after Al " The Crptkeeper" Davis. The Raiders do not want him and he still wants to coach. Its just a thought but it's a better option than what is out there at the moment, excluding Russ Grimm of course who has my vote.By the way surprise surprise Grimm and "The Daniel" don't get along well being a former Hog and redskin through and through I am sure Grimm doesn't really care for what Snyder has done to our beloved team.

Posted by: mofass79 | February 8, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

And we'll sign Joe Smith as our next starting CB in free agency, instead of bidding for Nnamdi Notevergonnaplayhere.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

mofass, hope you have Aflac!

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

mofass, hope you have Aflac!

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 02:06 PM

...or Damon

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Princes Bride

We are in the pit of dispair.

I intend to make a death scream when fassel in made the HC in about 2 hours.

Blog what are your plans?

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Chad Johnson meet Jerry Rice, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, that's 3, now, on your way you blowhard.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey 4th Floor--

Just wondering if you saw this article already:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7771002/Hall-of-Fame-should-be-reserved-for-the-greats?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

Kind of got my blood boiling...but if the guy's shtick is to be provocative, he did his job.

Posted by: redskirt | February 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh no everyone left.

Now they will strike.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to log on and laugh at the collective suicide notes that will be sure to follow that announcement.

Posted by: Pthomas2mm | February 8, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

mul,
As I posted yesterday my plans are as follows for the Fassel announcement. I am going to walk naked, or in my case limp naked, down Main Street of my town while the locals point and laugh therefore simulating the reaction I will recieve when I tell people I am a Redskin fan, after they announce Fassel as coach

Posted by: mofass79 | February 8, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

that was bad etrod, you have been awarded no TCCLs and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Dorf | February 8, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Chad Johnson meet Jerry Rice, Art Monk, Marvin Harrison, that's 3, now, on your way you blowhard.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 02:16 PM

Must be the moustache!

Posted by: redskirt | February 8, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

There has been no big announcement today because the NFL asked Snyder not to take the media spotlight away from the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

the blog says "I have not yet begun to defile myself"

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

They can't take Art out of the Hall so F em.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,

I threw a tomato at myself for that one.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

mul,
As I posted yesterday my plans are as follows for the Fassel announcement. I am going to walk naked, or in my case limp naked, down Main Street of my town while the locals point and laugh therefore simulating the reaction I will recieve when I tell people I am a Redskin fan, after they announce Fassel as coach

Posted by: mofass79

I remember that was funny.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The strategy for annoucing Fassel will probably be mid-day on Monday, 2/18 - President's Day. Since it is a national holiday, there will be few bloggers at work so the outcry will be dimmed.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

No I can feel it comming...........

People are leaving work early and no one will be on Saturday.

Maybe it will be Saturday.

AHHHHHHHHH......

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Did the NFL also ask Snyder to run his team like a buffoon, and hire an intellectual midget of a yes man to help him run off all the loyal fans, and still make money hand over fist?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse


Did the NFL also ask Snyder to run his team like a buffoon, and hire an intellectual midget of a yes man to help him run off all the loyal fans, and still make money hand over fist?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 02:28 PM

No, they told him not to. Because he is smarter than them, he did the exact opposite.

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

So where is all the posters who were saying "we are doomed" players are unhappy" nobody will redo their deals" "The players hate whats going on and want to leave" The players hate Danny boy"

Are ya eating crow now that these so called unhappy, non renegotiating players who hate their owner and won't redo deals because Greg is gone posters? Where are you? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Dear Danny.

SELL THE TEAM. You have RUINED what football once was in Washington. I will forever support my beloved Redskins but for gosh sakes- ARE YOU THAT BLIND?

YOU ARENT JERRY JONES.

Posted by: JNichols2 | February 8, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder asked Vinny Cerrato to marry him...after thinking it over for 28 hrs, he is reported to have declined...so a plane has been sent to pick up Tom Cruise.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 8, 2008 12:22 PM

Where are all the homophobes coming from today? Extremeskins?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 12:26 PM

There was nothing homophobic about Tomfoley's comment. Yes, it was a joke about Dan Snyder being gay, but the comment itself wasn't even close to being homophobic.

Posted by: rickyd | February 8, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank heaven the players on the team don't have the same Chicken Little mentality that 90% of the "fans" here have.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Players like bloggers are not going to give up millions in $$$$ for spite. But they will not play for less or the same as another team. Such as NE or what Green did for us.

BTW Vinny is an A ss Clown!

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, who said that? anyone today?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

There was nothing homophobic about Tomfoley's comment. Yes, it was a joke about Dan Snyder being gay, but the comment itself wasn't even close to being homophobic.

Posted by: rickyd | February 8, 2008 02:39 PM

This sort of crap which is based solely on calling someone you don't like a homosexual is right in the heart of homophobia. It is not using homosexuality as a compliment or even as a neutral descriptor. It is meant as an insult. It has no place on RI.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Ohh shEEEEEeeet DANBOTS are back.

Go crawl in your hole.

Do you guys remember when we could call Gibbs plays before Saunders came. Well that is what Vinnydan have become.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder's other nickname is Chicken Little. The connotation is different, apparently.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, you make it sound like we're 16 million under the cap - not 16 million over it....

Posted by: FlimFlam | February 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

drbatchelor = DANBOT

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

leevi,

players were willing to take pay CUTS for Joe Gibbs.

you are talking about restructures, which actually benefits the player because it gives them more money up front.

players would agree to restructures any day of the week, no matter who the owner is.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

mul = repetitive incoherence

Ever think of actually defending an argument rather than merely name calling and complaining? Stop imitating the bleeding heart liberals and actually come up with some ideas for solutions.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 8, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

drbatchelor also
Thank heaven the players on the team don't have the same age that 90% of the "fans" here have.
Thank heaven the players on the team don't have the same height that 90% of the "fans" here have.
Thank heaven the players on the team don't have the same athletic ability that 90% of the "fans" here have.
like I said before "The blog bashings will continue until morale improves"

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

ohhhh sheeeeeeeettttttt remember when other teams could tell waht Gibbs was going to call but couldn't stop it and he won 3 superbowls!

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

A goldfish walks into a bar.

Bartender: Hey Buddy! What can I get you?
Goldfish: Water!

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Talent_Evaluator,

I agree with you to a point. We should all be considerate of each other and avoid saying things that are inflammatory. Even if a certain statement is acceptable amongst ones friends, it may not be acceptable to the general populace.

That being said, I disagree that calling someone as a homosexual (or any of the slang terms that convey the same meaning) means that person is homophobic. I am a heterosexual. I would be insulted and offended if someone called me gay. Is that because i'm homophobic? No - its because a persons gender and sexual orientation are two of the most fundamental factors to a persons identity - and i don't want to be misunderstood. As a practical matter, if the ladies thought I was a homosexual, it would KILL my eligibility in their minds. ;-)

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

rb, don't remember which players took a pay cut, other than Brunell? Which other one's took a pay cut?

mul can't come up with a logical, well thought out defense of his stance because there isn't one, and he's a tool.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

A goldfish walks into a bar.

Bartender: Hey Buddy! What can I get you?
Goldfish: Water!

The ! sold the joke.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Subcultural Attire
Codpieces are worn in leather subcultural attire to cover the genitals of a man wearing chaps.

Heavy Metal Fashion
Codpieces are an established part of a heavy metal performance costume. Examples include:

Ian Anderson, front man for Jethro Tull, wore a codpiece during his performances in the mid-1970s.
Gene Simmons of the American Rock Band Kiss often wore black and silver costumes with codpieces.
The lead singer of 1980s music group Cameo, Larry Blackmon, wore a large, bright-red codpiece in all of his performances.
Shock rock performer Blackie Lawless, leader of the group WASP, has been known to wear a codpiece that features a saw blade and is capable of shooting out flames and sparks.
Heavy metal singer King Diamond has been known to wear a codpiece as part of his performance outfits.
Electric Six lead singer Dick Valentine can be seen wearing a brightly flashing codpiece in the music video for the band's 2003 hit single Danger! High Voltage.

Codpieces in Film and Modern Literature

In Anthony Burgess's novel A Clockwork Orange (and later Stanley Kubrick's movie adaptation), Alex and his gang wear codpieces.


In the 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, the Earth is covered in radioactive dust from nuclear fallout, so male characters must wear lead codpieces to avoid becoming sterile.
Codpieces are seen as part of the uniform of Imperial stormtroopers in the Star Wars movie series.
The films Batman Forever and Batman & Robin received much publicity over the size of the molded rubber codpieces of the Batman and Robin costumes.
In Jim Henson's movie Labyrinth, the Goblin King (played by David Bowie) sports a codpiece beneath his riding breeches.
In The Pirate Movie (1982), a rock music version of the Pirates of Penzance, the Pirate King wore an enormous jeweled codpiece for comedic effect.
In the Wachowski brothers's second Matrix sequel The Matrix Reloaded, two men can be seen wearing codpieces at the entrance to the Merovingian's nightclub.
In Babylon 5, G'Kar, played by Andreas Katsulas, sports a codpiece as part of his Ambassadorial garb.
In one episode of Metalocalypse, Murdering Outside the Box bassist William Murderface purchases a diamond-encrusted codpiece which is reinforced by titanium alloy and is shaped like a horn. Meanwhile, guitarist Toki Wartooth purchases a strap-on dildo, mistaking it for a codpiece. An assassin sent by the mysterious group observing the band Dethklok later trips and falls face first into the codpiece and is skewered.
In the 1995 film Se7en, a lust-related murder involves a man being forced at gunpoint to don a codpiece with a long blade attached as a pseudo-phallus and have sex with a prostitute, killing the woman in the process.
Actor Dougray Scott, on his role in Ever After, said, "I had never worn a codpiece before and I don't think I ever will again."
In Guitar Hero and Guitar Hero II, Izzy Sparks' main costume features a skull-shaped codpiece.
Codpiece was a supervillain who appeared in Doom Patrol #70. He was armed with a mechanical codpiece but was defeated by Coagula, who melted it.
In the British sitcom The Black Adder in the episode "The Archbishop" the eponymous anti-hero Edmund wears a vast, erect "Black Russian" codpiece to the ceremony at which he thinks his hated brother Harry will be announced Archbishop of Canterbury; he is happy because the King has a habit of having Archbishops of Canterbury murdered, opening up Edmund's chances of becoming king. Instead, Edmund is declared Archbishop, and hurriedly tries to hide the codpiece from the disapproving clergy by hanging a nearby bishop's mitre on it.

Posted by: Alex655321 | February 8, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

SETH, When a man makes a winky face there isn't much left to be confused about pertaining to their sexuality.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

A three-legged dog walks into a bar and says "I'm looking for the guy who shot my paw!"

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If it's ok to have an opinion on who the next Redskin coach should be, shouldn't we be able to have an opinion on homosexuality? The latter has far greater eternal consequence. Has nothing to do with phobia, it's fact.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

JLC does a great job in keeping us updated on the search for a new HC. In fact I like the fact that he keeps his commentary honest which you can't say for the dimwits on Redskins radio/TV. I like Bram but Larry Michaels is right behind Vinny in the Azz kissing department. Also, on Redskins.com if you express any sentiment that is negative towards Synder you can expect to be banned from the chat room. Just another example of the Synder progaganda machine at work!

Boycott Synder and his folly!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 8, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

So all the mom's basement bashing up here, is that home-ophobia?

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This whole thing stinks, so does Fossil

Posted by: pat5387 | February 8, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

codpieces? homophobia arguements? aweful bar jokes? what happened to the Danny bashing/Danny defending? Come on people stay focused!!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Umm there are plenty of other places to discuss sexuality, it's moral and spiritual consequences.

Let's just stick to bad mouthing each other over the Redskins shall we?

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

ESPN just reported that Dan Snyder asked Vinny Cerrato to marry him...after thinking it over for 28 hrs, he is reported to have declined...so a plane has been sent to pick up Tom Cruise.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | February 8, 2008 12:22 PM

This sort of crap which is based solely on calling someone you don't like a homosexual is right in the heart of homophobia. It is not using homosexuality as a compliment or even as a neutral descriptor. It is meant as an insult. It has no place on RI.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 8, 2008 02:44 PM

Are you drunk? Someone making a joke about Dan Snyder asking Vinny to marry him is "crap" that "has no place on RI." You must be joking or drunk. I refuse to believe you are actually being serious right now.

Posted by: rickyd | February 8, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

RB
name one player who took a pay cut for Gibbs and do not say Brunnell because I said player he is a bum. Springs would not take a paycut for Gibbs. Unless you are a mind reader how in the hell do you know what the players will or will not do just more nonsense speculation.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

leevi,

players were willing to take pay CUTS for Joe Gibbs.

you are talking about restructures, which actually benefits the player because it gives them more money up front.

players would agree to restructures any day of the week, no matter who the owner is.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 8, 2008 02:48 PM

What players took "pay cuts" under Gibbs...They did the same thing when Gibbs was here...they re did their deals...nobody took pay cuts....and even so you make it sound like it's a bad thing...This is good news...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

So all the mom's basement bashing up here, is that home-ophobia?

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 8, 2008 03:00 PM
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lol

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

So all the mom's basement bashing up here, is that home-ophobia?

Posted by: SMACK1 | February 8, 2008 03:00 PM
-------------------------------------

lol

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

If we don't get Ocho Cinco, then maybe...

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Bears are unlikely to place the franchise tag on impending free agent Bernard Berrian.Berrian, who just turned 27, is still improving and will be the most attractive player at his position when free agency begins on February 29. The 49ers and Redskins will likely have interest.

Berrian averaged a career low 13.4 yards per catch in 2007, but that was mainly due to terrible quarterback play. He did score five times and caught a personal best 71 passes.

Posted by: godiva2 | February 8, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I really hate homophones (to, too, two; hear, here; your, you're). It seems like a lot of other people up here hate them also.

Does that make us "homophonephobic??

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, you make it sound like we're 16 million under the cap - not 16 million over it....

Posted by: FlimFlam | February 8, 2008 02:46 PM

I never said that....by Jason just reported there will be no issue with being 20 million over because the players are redoing deals...he stated that Ciooley alone will cut be 9 million...I'd say that is great news....

I was posted about what others in here have said in recent weeks about how the players won't redo their deals because Danny has screwed everything up etc etc...and where are they now I asked? because now they must eat crow on the subject and of course they are either not here or are ignoring they were debating this is past weeks.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs is a major reason we are 20million over the cap he has been running the show for the last 4 years.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

dang double "submit"--sorry, blog.

Posted by: NCICURN | February 8, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

If we don't get Ocho Cinco, then maybe...

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Bears are unlikely to place the franchise tag on impending free agent Bernard Berrian.Berrian, who just turned 27, is still improving and will be the most attractive player at his position when free agency begins on February 29. The 49ers and Redskins will likely have interest.

Berrian averaged a career low 13.4 yards per catch in 2007, but that was mainly due to terrible quarterback play. He did score five times and caught a personal best 71 passes.

Posted by: godiva2 | February 8, 2008 03:09 PM

I DO NOT WANT CHAD JOHNSON ON THIS TEAM!

I saw an interview with him on Total access last night...what a jerk....at the probnowl with a gold grill in his teeth...we do not need his kind here...NO!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

When they realized the players were willing to redo contracts they switched there argument to they will not take paycuts. I think next they will say the players will not practice and then they will not show up at training camp.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

RB
name one player who took a pay cut for Gibbs and do not say Brunnell because I said player he is a bum. Springs would not take a paycut for Gibbs. Unless you are a mind reader how in the hell do you know what the players will or will not do just more nonsense speculation.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:05 PM

Thank you ...great post...

answer is nobody they all re did their deals just like they are now...no differences.....

PEOPLE ARE BACK PEDDLING! lol

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

If I remember correctly, one of the defensive line guys last year or the year before took a pay cut (Salave'a?) during a renegotiation.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

And what did that get him cut by Gibbs

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

NO TO CHAD! WHO THE HELL WOULD WANT THE 4TH BEST RECIEVER IN THE NFL!?!?!

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Talk about cap hell...

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/08/larry-fitzgerald-contract-cripples-cardinals/

10% in 1 player? Hey Dan - look, another role model!

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 01:52 PM

Assuming there's more than one year left on the deal all they need to do is guarantee the money and prorate it over the life of the deal.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4,


Wait till we hire new coach and they bash him and get in an uproar...OH GREGY WHERES GREGY THEY SCREWED GREGY...like they have been...what if it;s fassel? No matter who...what if this new staff and coach has them winning? Talk about back peddling! You will see everyone in here not owning up to all the danny smack! But they will find something i'm sure...they always do...BIT CH BIT CH BIT CH LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Couple of peanuts walk into a bar, not looking for any trouble. Unfortunately, one was a salted.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Man Jasno is slacking there has to be some knid of news.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

NO TO CHAD! WHO THE HELL WOULD WANT THE 4TH BEST RECIEVER IN THE NFL!?!?!

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 03:16 PM

NOT ME! I don't car how good he is...he is not a good repectable person and team player...just look at how he is handling wanting to be traded...have seen this guys interviews? what a d i c k! It's not like cincy has been unfair to the guy...take his endzone dancing a ss elsewhere

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

....at the probnowl with a gold grill in his teeth...we do not need his kind here...NO!

His kind, huh? Why because he wears gold teeth?

What is he one of those thugs now?


Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'll take a pass on Chad Johnson as well.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Set of jumper cables walks into a bar. Bartender looks up, "I'll serve ya, but I don't want you starting anything."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The only guy I remember them even discussing a pay cut was Springs. He refused and they kept him anyway.

Posted by: cdubb | February 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

And what did that get him cut by Gibbs

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:15 PM

And what did that get him, cut by Gibbs

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

I know we could make it to the NFC championship game next year and all that will be said is we would have one the Superbowl if GG was coach.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

And what did that get him cut by Gibbs

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:15 PM

No, his trash play got him cut.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"...take his endzone dancing a ss elsewhere"

Have you seen any of the Redskins current players reaction when they score?

With the exception of Chris Cooley.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

And what did that get him cut by Gibbs

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:15 PM

And what did that get him, cut by Gibbs

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 03:19 PM

And what did that get him? Cut, by Gibbs.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they are bringing Richi Pettibon back for a year

Posted by: jklaw | February 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

A bit of rope, tangled and twisted with loose fibers everywhere walks into a bar. Bartender says, "you look horrible, are you OK?" The bit of rope responds "I'm a frayed knot."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Sams3

Please do not correct my grammar if that is what you are doing I know I am a terrible writer.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

1) If we blow $ on a free agent WR, it will show VinnyDan has learned nothing. It's ALL ABOUT THE DRAFT.

2) A team full of overpaid players will never make the Super Bowl. Part of the benefit of having inexpensive younger players, is their desire for a big payday. Never underestimate that.

3) With our cap situation, how on earth do any of you expect us to be active in free agency?

4) We are on the fast-track to being like Oakland.

5) Why are we the only damn team that conducts multiple marathon interviews? To me, it merely shows we don't know what we're doing.

Posted by: jazzmoswitz | February 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Fassel will work out. If Zorn is as good as advertised and Blache can hold the line, maybe he doesn't need to be great. If JC becomes, to paraphrase Denny Green, "who we thought he was!!!!" and we can stay reasonably healthy (God knows after this tragic year, we're due for some good fortune), I think any serviceable coach could turn the trick of say 9-7 or 10-6. So maybe we need to give him a chance - I'm not thrilled with the thought of him as our next coach either, but we don't appear to have a choice.

The bigger issue to me is Danny's love affair with Cerrato. We need a real GM. Who respects the draft, especially rounds 3-6. Who can evaluate talent and needs. Unless/until that happens, this fuzzy cap math and reckless F/A shopping is going to keep hamstringing us. Our schedule next year is easier - we should make the playoffs no matter who is coaching, but we need serious help in the FO.

Posted by: lmgaffney | February 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

If it's ok to have an opinion on who the next Redskin coach should be, shouldn't we be able to have an opinion on homosexuality? The latter has far greater eternal consequence. Has nothing to do with phobia, it's fact.

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 8, 2008 02:58 PM

OK maybe you are not a PR guy. I don't make lots of money like Dan so I do make mistakes.

Are you a redskin fan or do you just hate to watch a tycoon get the beat down.

There was another blogger last week like that. He sold stuff to college students or something. He also had the Money = Good mentality.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

SETH, When a man makes a winky face there isn't much left to be confused about pertaining to their sexuality.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 02:58 PM

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Ouch dude, you're right. i basically just winked at another dude, dude! oh, and to the other dude, you would be a straight-up homophobe for that comment (am i more hetero and less homo since i said dude, so many times?)

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

I know we could make it to the NFC championship game next year and all that will be said is we would have one the Superbowl if GG was coach.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:20 PM

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I wouldn't go that far, that is a stretch and that is just being honest.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Who are the minority owners and do they really have any say?

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

New game to distract us from the coaching search - help me think of a good personalized plate for my car. I was really considering going with a Simpsons theme, so here are some sample ideas:
HOMR TAX
HLL FISH
STAMPY

Ok, your turn. Help me out Simpsons/Redskins fans.

Posted by: -swb | February 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Fitzgerald has like two years left on his deal, with something like $31 million in salary guaranteed? ($14 in 2008, $17 in 2009) "All" the Cardinals have to do is get Fitzgerald to renegotiate; that should only take about $60 million in bonus and maybe $100 million in total money for what - 5 or 6 years? Nothing like a $10 million cap hit annually.

Guess we won't see Fitzgerald as a Redskin.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

People we will not have a cap problems we never do they will get us under the cap as always and have plenty of money to sign FA's and draft picks. I say Derrick Harvey with the 21st pick I think we have to go D line.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Who are the minority owners and do they really have any say?

Posted by: admin

Why do you think the brand them with Minority. This is the USA we don't lessen to no freaking minorities.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen any of the Redskins current players reaction when they score?

With the exception of Chris Cooley.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 03:21 PM

Santana Moss does this little gesture where he pounds his chest with one hand and points his arm straight with the other.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I hope the new HC gets this team winning again leevi98. Let me say that again I hope the new HC gets this team winning again, but I also reserse my God given right as American to continue to bash Danny and his uncoventional ways in running the most profitable team ever. It's called freedom of speech! I'll own up to the Danny smack all the way to the Super Bowl if that's were the new HC takes the Redskins. America is full of bloggers who bit ch bit ch bit ch, isn't that how this great country got started in the first place? Were not our forefathers bit ching about being over taxed by the Mother land? If you don't like the bit ching then go start a web page praising Danny and all his glory, it's your right.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Davo,

I am not saying we are going to the NFC championship but if we did people would still wine about GG not getting the job.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Ok, your turn. Help me out Simpsons/Redskins fans.

Posted by: -swb | February 8, 2008 03:26 PM

Some of my personal one-word faves on the Simpsons are:

UNPOSSIBLE
UNREGARDLESS
EMBIGGENS
CRUMULENT

[That might be the Simpsons Insider in me though.]

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

I know we could make it to the NFC championship game next year and all that will be said is we would have one the Superbowl if GG was coach.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:20 PM

==============================

I wouldn't go that far, that is a stretch and that is just being honest.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 03:25 PM

If we lose in the NFC Championship Game next year I will absolutely apologize to VinnyDAN and begin using his real names on all my posts.

What do I get from him when instead we go 5-11? Oh yeah, a 1-7 start for his boy Facile in 2009 . . . I am ranting again.

Posted by: RedBee | February 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Also, from Nelson Muntz ... HA ha

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I saw this in an article on ESPN about ther unification of open-wheel racing in America:

"You cannot do a business transaction in the public eye," Kalkhoven added. "When you do a normal business merger, the principals agree to the transaction, then you make an announcement, and then you take it to the stakeholders for comment. When there is a leak like this, everyone and their opinions gets involved and it becomes a complete stalemate. This has happened several times before. It's not helping the process."

Sounds like more Danny-speak to me.

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Or Professor Frink ... GLAVIN!

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Why can only a few of us see what will make Vinny such a good GM?

Can someone enlighten the unknowing Blog of fools?

I can't think of anything at all but college scouting.

Posted by: mul | February 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

hahaha, great suggestions sween! Thanks!

For some reason I had totally forgotten about the excellent made up Simpsons words. I used to always try to work "Cromulant" into presentations when I was at GMU.

Posted by: -swb | February 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

UNPOSSIBLE - Ralph Wiggum
UNREGARDLESS - Homer
EMBIGGENS - Jebediah Springfield
CRUMULENT - Ms. Hoover

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

when you're flying a time machine into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window or it'll turn into a fassel.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow teden, i never knew ESPN reported on open-wheel racing in America, thanks!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

No prob ... "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

I know we could make it to the NFC championship game next year and all that will be said is we would have one the Superbowl if GG was coach.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:20 PM

Some fans will always find something....Hell if we win the super bowl...people will be complaining that somebody dropped a pass in the first qt! LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

It is my opinion that Fassell is not getting the job if it were him it would be done. I think they are either in negotions with Meeks or Mooch or they have another mystery candidate. Do not ask me how I know this this is my opinion since the beat reporter has no news for us.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Davo,

I am not saying we are going to the NFC championship but if we did people would still wine about GG not getting the job.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:30 PM

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kmdp4, I concur, my thing is that everyone expects the Super Bowl EVERY year and that isn't fair to the team, the guys on the field.

If we don't get to the Super Bowl then everyone considers the season a bust.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Sams3

Please do not correct my grammar if that is what you are doing I know I am a terrible writer.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:22 PM

I didn't mean to offend you. I wasn't trying to correct you, I was just trying to make it so you could be understood. I didn't even correct the grammer I was just trying to make it able to be understood.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I hope the new HC gets this team winning again leevi98. Let me say that again I hope the new HC gets this team winning again, but I also reserse my God given right as American to continue to bash Danny and his uncoventional ways in running the most profitable team ever. It's called freedom of speech! I'll own up to the Danny smack all the way to the Super Bowl if that's were the new HC takes the Redskins. America is full of bloggers who bit ch bit ch bit ch, isn't that how this great country got started in the first place? Were not our forefathers bit ching about being over taxed by the Mother land? If you don't like the bit ching then go start a web page praising Danny and all his glory, it's your right.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 03:28 PM


Ya know what the deal is...the deal is this...MANY OF US love to talk about the Redksins...but we are so sick and tired of the same of Sh it day in and day out ..with the same old Dan bashing...it's just very old...and adding

when the fans of the franchise b itch like this...well guess what you give the rival fans and the nedia alot of beef to talk even more smack..it give everybody open season...and it's just flat out annoying and a tired old topic...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Me fail english? Unpossible...

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

If Dan bashing bothers you, you really shouldn't log onto this site. I'm not saying that to be rude, I'm just sayzin is all...

Skinz
Unabashed Danny-basher since '00

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Ok, your turn. Help me out Simpsons/Redskins fans.

Posted by: -swb | February 8, 2008 03:26 PM
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Krudler - The race horse that Krusty & Bette Midler owned together.

Posted by: curtmcgurt | February 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4,

I agree with you that fossils chances are dwindling by the hour... he seems to be experiencing the same fall from grace that williams did. I definitely don't see Meeks being a real candidate and i beleive there had to be SOMETHING to those rumors that mooch was no longer in contention....

which leaves open the mystery candidate. I really think we are in a position where there are no GOOD candidates out there who WANT this job.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"...take his endzone dancing a ss elsewhere"

Have you seen any of the Redskins current players reaction when they score?

With the exception of Chris Cooley.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 03:21 PM

Yeah I have and the worst I have seen is Portis doing a cart wheel...I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I didn't even correct the grammer I was just trying to make it able to be understood.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 03:39 PM

there is no "e" in grammar.

Posted by: rickyd | February 8, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow kelly2field, paranoia has really set in.

Posted by: teden | February 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The team needs players that are passionate and hold eachother accountable, just liek Chad does. NO ONE in the NFL is more of a baby on the field than Tom Brady. He demands his players execute as perfectly as he does, he is a winner.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'll take a pass on Chad Johnson as well.

Posted by: gregmarino88 | February 8, 2008 03:18 PM

I have notice over the course of several weeks...we simply agree on about everything! I love it!

HAIL GREGMARINO88

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Rival fans and media don't need our help to see what a clusterfutz this team's management is. Does anyone have to check with us here to find out if the sky is blue?

Please.

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

A Mushroom walks into a bar.
Bartender: "We don't serve your kind here!"
Mushroom: "Why not? I'm a fungi!"

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, so give us some new topics, you're bashing of the Danny bashers is getting very old and adding, you're giving your rivals a lot of beef to talk even more smack, it's giving everyone open season on you...maybe blogging's not your game....I know let's have a spelling contest!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I didn't even correct the grammer I was just trying to make it able to be understood.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 03:39 PM

there is no "e" in grammar.

Posted by: rickyd | February 8, 2008 03:44 PM

Kudos

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

MAX PWR

Posted by: cdubb | February 8, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Say NO to Chad!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

maybe blogging's not your game....I know let's have a spelling contest!

500 must be a peach of a hand, I supposed I'm deranged but I'lljust have to call, cover your ears darlin.

Is'nt that a Daisy

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 03:42 PM

Yeah, CJ's end zone celebrations are totally uncalled for. That HOF jacket celebration was an insult to tailors and fashion designers across America (what an ill-fitting, ugly sports jacket) and his pom-pom celebration clearly encouraged homosexuality and cross-dressing. Lighten up leevi98, the game's supposed to be about having fun and showing some emotion.

Adam

BTW, the NFL banned group celebrations a while ago. Does that make every single 80's Smurfs touchdown celebration uncalled for and off-color as well?

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one enjoying the bar jokes from 'sween and etrod?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Kelly,

Dont get me started on Tombstone references we will be here all night.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Haha, Krudler...I like it. Thanks dude

Posted by: -swb | February 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

ya know I love ALL you guys! I love my fellow Redskin Nation and I'm stil proud to be a life lobg Skins fan...I mean you guys are ALL my family!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

A rabbit and a bear are taking a crap in the woods. The bear turns to the rabbit and says, "Excuse me. Do you have problems with sh*t sticking to your fur?" The rabbit replies, "No."

So the bear wipes his ass with the rabbit.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Even Chris M. from ESPN is lost on what the Skins are doing with their headcoach search. He stated that if Fassel is not hired by the weekend, The process may begin again.

I cannot take another week of this "search"!!!!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

not me, I'll be down by the crick, walk'n on water.

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 03:42 PM

This is mostly because they don't get in the endzone. We don't know what that would look like.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah I have and the worst I have seen is Portis doing a cart wheel...I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????"

Thats like saying a level of gloating is not that high here in washington because there was no rule put in place for it. Last time I checked gloating is gloating and ignorance is ignorance.

But me personally I like TD celebrations. From the plain spike to the Ocho extremities. I think they're entertaining, and they also piss off the opposing team.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Lets play what movie is the quate from

"Its not a motorcycle baby it's a chopper"

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, so give us some new topics, you're bashing of the Danny bashers is getting very old and adding, you're giving your rivals a lot of beef to talk even more smack, it's giving everyone open season on you...maybe blogging's not your game....I know let's have a spelling contest!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 03:46 PM

Good one...LOL i know I'm awful at proof reading and typing. I just type and go!..good smack back!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Even Chris M. from ESPN is lost on what the Skins are doing with their headcoach search. He stated that if Fassel is not hired by the weekend, The process may begin again.

I cannot take another week of this "search"!!!!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 03:55 PM
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Mike and Mike were saying this morning that Snyders approach to the coaching hire baffles everyone, that it makes no sense and that this will be the umpteenth coach under "the Danny" and how many have worked out?

It sucks to be a skins fan at this point.

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

sween

I always thought the peanuts joke was

"2 peanuts were walking in the park; 1 was a salted"

what gives?

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Husband: Hey babe, get your coat on I'm going down to the bar.
Wife: Oh, you're taking me out for a drink?
Husband: Don't be stupid. I'm turning off the heat.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one enjoying the bar jokes from 'sween and etrod?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 8, 2008 03:52 PM

NO

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I'm trying to keep up here:

Beer, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.


An amnesiac comes into a bar. He asks, "Do I come here often?"


You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one enjoying the bar jokes from 'sween and etrod?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 8, 2008 03:52 PM


Yes.

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

i'd rather have another month of this search if it led to a better coach than Fassel.

Fassel is desperate and we can afford to string him along. he's the fat girl that no one wants to invite to the prom. If we string him along for another month, all we do is weaken his stand in contract negotiations... he'll probably coach us for less than Spags is making as DC in new york.

If it does end up being Fassel, i think the best thing danny can do is give him a 3 year deal for no more than 3M/year. That way, Fassel will have to WORK to earn his contract. If Fassel gets a fat 5 year, 5M+/year deal like Gibbs got, he has no incentive to work hard.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Its not a motorcycle baby it's a chopper"

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 03:56 PM

pulp fiction

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Slater you want to play some Foosball"
"yes"
"well alright"

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, so give us some new topics, you're bashing of the Danny bashers is getting very old and adding, you're giving your rivals a lot of beef to talk even more smack, it's giving everyone open season on you...maybe blogging's not your game....I know let's have a spelling contest!

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 03:46 PM

New topics? How bout that Jasons knee is all fixed and healed and ready to go for the offseason!

or How good a west coast style running game will do for Portis and Betts...CP did well in a west style in Denver

or How Jason had his best football season ever as a senior at Auburn running a west coast system

or How Jim Zorn's impact will be on campbell who has better pure talent that Matt Hasselbeck. Zorn did a great job with him....

or What FA's the kins may go after and who on the market would be a great move for the team.

Just a few to get it started :)

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

This coaching search makes me long for the good ol days when we had coach Robiskie

Posted by: skinsfan1234 | February 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Pulp Fiction

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world are so many of you kicking around scenarios about wide receivers? Our offensive line got it's a** kicked by Seattle, exposing the need for young offensive linemen.

We do not, repeat, do not need any more receivers- tall or otherwise. Now, as Armchair GM-I'll quickly say if the Skins' had the a chance to draft some speedburner, then obviously take it. But, under no circumstance should the Redskins enter the offseason concerning themselves with receivers.

I'm starting to wonder about the team evaluating skills of many-most of you, Every year-these posts/discussions go on between all of us in Redskin Nation only to hear far too many of you-hollering about a g*dd**n receiver.
Every g*dd**n year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People, we don't need new receivers every year-we just don't. Look, I know the vast majority of you look at B. Lloyd and scream BUST!
As Armchair GM- I look at Lloyd and scream OPPORTUNITY-As in, has he had an real,genuine and sustainable chance? I look at B.Lloyd and SEE- Patrick Ramsey, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta,Champ Bailey, etc-guys that the TEAM quit on after wrongly assesing their talent(Archuleta) or whether the coaches wanted them (Arrington, Ramsey)or their willingness to play for a sham contract (Bailey).

STOP WITH PINING FOR RECEIVERS-WE NEED F**K**G LINEMEN, OFFENSE AND DEFENSE.
CONSIDER THE REST OF THE NFC EAST, NOW LOOK AT THEIR LINES. WITH POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF THE COWBOYS O-LINE, THEY ARE ALL YOUNG AND ON THE COME.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Mort is selling Fassel, but thinks the the Skins FO is fearing the wrath of the fans!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Mort is selling Fassel, but thinks the the Skins FO is fearing the wrath of the fans!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

A satelite dish married an antennae. The reception was awesome.

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 03:42 PM

This is mostly because they don't get in the endzone. We don't know what that would look like.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 03:56 PM

Good Point! LOL

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"Zed's dead, Baby."

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Very happy giraffe walks into a bar and yells "high balls are on me!"

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

NFL live is bashing the "search". Who will take the job without authority.

Mort is selling Fassel, but says the Skins FO fears the wrath of the skins if they hire fossil.

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

A Horse walks into a bar.
Bartender: Hey buddy, why the long face?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins keep him around, Brandon Lloyd will thrive in the west coast offense.

If he is still around by August.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Bartender ask the giraffe, "you want a long neck?" Giraffe says "do I have a choice?"

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Who gives an F what Mike and Mike think they are the worst radio show I have ever heard they make me want to stick pencils in my ears.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I have seen NO redskins Behave like chad Johnson after scoring.....I mean the NFL put in a rule because of this guy....are realy serious????

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 03:42 PM

Yeah, CJ's end zone celebrations are totally uncalled for. That HOF jacket celebration was an insult to tailors and fashion designers across America (what an ill-fitting, ugly sports jacket) and his pom-pom celebration clearly encouraged homosexuality and cross-dressing. Lighten up leevi98, the game's supposed to be about having fun and showing some emotion.

Adam

BTW, the NFL banned group celebrations a while ago. Does that make every single 80's Smurfs touchdown celebration uncalled for and off-color as well?

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 03:52 PM

Before you go therewith points and I agree with you BTW...People have taken my comments in another direction or changed the sunject so to speak....I'm more directing my point on his attitude and the fact he is all about himself...have you seen his interviews and campains to be traded? He is not handling in a nice way...what did Cincy to do him? Nothing but make the guy rich...but that's not enough he wants to be the highest paud Wr ever... sory we don't need this type of player.

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

If the Redskins keep him around, Brandon Lloyd will thrive in the west coast offense.

If he is still around by August.

Posted by: IvanDanko | February 8, 2008 04:04 PM

Cutting him might be difficult vis a vis the cap.

Posted by: skinfanman | February 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I think Czab was correct this morning he said Fassell is like the Fat girl you have on speed dial and if you can not find anyone better you give her a late night Booty call.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I have no problems with chad johnsons endzone celebrations. they are fun and enjoyable and not meant to be hateful or antagonize the other team. i'd take a 15 yeard penalty for every chad johnson touchdown in dallas stadium.

Posted by: SETH.LEMASTER | February 8, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

As Armchair GM- I look at Lloyd and scream OPPORTUNITY-As in, has he had an real,genuine and sustainable chance? I look at B.Lloyd and SEE- Patrick Ramsey, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta,Champ Bailey, etc-guys that the TEAM quit on after wrongly assesing their talent(Archuleta) or whether the coaches wanted them (Arrington, Ramsey)or their willingness to play for a sham contract (Bailey).

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 04:01 PM

ROTFLMAO.

1. The BL line is a classic. I'm guessing you also thought that the precipitous drops in Enron, Lucent, and WorldCom stock prices represented "buying opportunities". How did those work out for ya?

2. Except for Champ Bailey, what exactly did any of the guys you named do after leaving the skins?

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Who gives an F what Mike and Mike think they are the worst radio show I have ever heard they make me want to stick pencils in my ears.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 04:05 PM

LOL LOL That is funny as hell...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Who gives an F what Mike and Mike think they are the worst radio show I have ever heard they make me want to stick pencils in my ears.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 04:05 PM

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Dude, what do you call Larry Michaels??? I've boycotted XXX ESPN because of that toad. I'll take Mike and Mike over Larry any day of the week !

Posted by: Davo61 | February 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, I think that's what we should be discussing, who can we bring in here to help out, and I think ArmchairGM nailed it, we need some friggin beasts up front. Campbell is a worthy QB, our WRs can catch can't they, Portis and Betts have more to give, which by the way why the h*ll wasn't Betts used more this year after that hefty payday??? We've got to shore up that O line. I think the O line and D line need the most work. Who's available to help in those departments?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Magician walks down an alley, then turns into a bar.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Given the WP's history of investigative journalism i.e. Woodward & Bernstein, how is it the WP can't produce a Redskin Insider who comes up with inside information? On the FRI PM when we all thought we'd have a coach and mums the word. Get some new sources WP!!!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

What did the fish say when it hit a concrete wall?

DAM!

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Descartes walks into a bar. Bartender asks "beer?" Descartes replies "I think not" ... then disappears.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

A grasshopper walks into a bar.
Bartender: Hey man, did you know we've got a drink named after you?
Grasshopper: you have a drink named Karl?

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Dude, what do you call Larry Michaels??? I've boycotted XXX ESPN because of that toad. I'll take Mike and Mike over Larry any day of the week

I listen to SportsTalk 980 all day.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

As Armchair GM- I look at Lloyd and scream OPPORTUNITY-As in, has he had an real,genuine and sustainable chance? I look at B.Lloyd and SEE- Patrick Ramsey, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta,Champ Bailey, etc-guys that the TEAM quit on after wrongly assesing their talent(Archuleta) or whether the coaches wanted them (Arrington, Ramsey)or their willingness to play for a sham contract (Bailey).

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 04:01 PM

WHAT??? I really don't know what to make of this post? LOL Umm BTW they offered Champ a huge contract twice...He wanted out of DC can't force the guy to stay..Lavar became a head case...and was overrated ADAM A..he went to the Bears to play for his old D cord who loved him and well by midseason he was benched! ONCE AGAIN! Ramsey..Yeah he is a starter and won the Superbowl and was MVP ! LOL Lloyd? Well LOL There ya go!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Neutron walks into a bar. Asks "how much for a beer?" Bartender replies, "for you, no charge."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Who gives an F what Mike and Mike think they are the worst radio show I have ever heard they make me want to stick pencils in my ears.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 04:05 PM

I don't know which one is worse... The pencil neck geek that has never actaully touched a football or the slob know-nothing former Eagle, who has 0 common sense.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, I think that's what we should be discussing, who can we bring in here to help out, and I think ArmchairGM nailed it, we need some friggin beasts up front. Campbell is a worthy QB, our WRs can catch can't they, Portis and Betts have more to give, which by the way why the h*ll wasn't Betts used more this year after that hefty payday??? We've got to shore up that O line. I think the O line and D line need the most work. Who's available to help in those departments?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 04:09 PM

I agree...we need some serious beef up front on the D line...After seeing what the Giants did...just reinforced how good this D could be with a scary front four..

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

leevi98, I think that's what we should be discussing, who can we bring in here to help out, and I think ArmchairGM nailed it, we need some friggin beasts up front. Campbell is a worthy QB, our WRs can catch can't they, Portis and Betts have more to give, which by the way why the h*ll wasn't Betts used more this year after that hefty payday??? We've got to shore up that O line. I think the O line and D line need the most work. Who's available to help in those departments?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 04:09 PM

I agree...we need some serious beef up front on the D line...After seeing what the Giants did...just reinforced how good this D could be with a scary front four..

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Proton walks in to the same bar and says "I heard there was a special"

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Anybody ever check out Sportstalk980 website if you do go to babes and thong of the day wakes me up every morning when I get to work.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

this is beyond ridiculously surreal at this point...ok gonna say it...give me fassel...we just need to move on.....

if you don't think this is a FUBAR-SHABINGUS....i cringe at your naivety

my new rankings:

1. meeks
2. lane kifin
3. just roll the dice on Zorn....

Posted by: chrislarry | February 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

How is the West Coast offense going to make Blloyd not be a chooch I don't get it?

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I think the O line and D line need the most work. Who's available to help in those departments?

Posted by: kelly2field | February 8, 2008 04:09 PM

I think the O line is ok...we had a lot of injuries there...so with everyone coming back healthy and The Buges still coaching them I think The o line will be ok...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Pirate walks into a bar with a steering-wheel on his crotch.

Bartender says "mr. pirate, do you know that there is a steering-wheel on you crotch".

Pirate replys "Arrrr it's drivin me nuts!"

Posted by: fawcett007 | February 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

leevi98

Thanks for the clarification. My personal take CJ's a really good player, but if he gets to the open market or is traded, his cost (i.e. salary cap hit) to the team he goes to is going to be more than his production (i.e. he's not a good value investment)

If the Skins choose to go this route, it seems like there are/may be other receivers in the 2008 free agent/trade bait pool (Bernard Berrian, Larry Fitzgerald) who would be better values.

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

A hamburger walks into a bar and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve food in here."

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

As Armchair GM- I look at Lloyd and scream OPPORTUNITY-As in, has he had an real,genuine and sustainable chance? I look at B.Lloyd and SEE- Patrick Ramsey, LaVar Arrington, Adam Archuleta,Champ Bailey, etc-guys that the TEAM quit on after wrongly assesing their talent(Archuleta) or whether the coaches wanted them (Arrington, Ramsey)or their willingness to play for a sham contract (Bailey).

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 04:01 PM

ROTFLMAO.

1. The BL line is a classic. I'm guessing you also thought that the precipitous drops in Enron, Lucent, and WorldCom stock prices represented "buying opportunities". How did those work out for ya?

2. Except for Champ Bailey, what exactly did any of the guys you named do after leaving the skins?

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 04:09 PM

Adam...now that repose was just funny as hell LOL NICE!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Defensive line is what we need I think that is the hardest position to fill we have to take a DE with the first pick Derrick Harvey I hope.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

F Snyder!

F Vinny!

F Fossil!

Say NO to Chad Johnson!

F Chris Larry!

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

a dyslexic guy walks into a bra.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

How is the West Coast offense going to make Blloyd not be a chooch I don't get it?

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 04:16 PM

This made me laugh to the point where my coworkers looked at me.

Posted by: sams3 | February 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Grizzly walks into a bar, sits down, looks down the bar one way, looks down the bar the other way, stares at the bartender for a while and asks for a beer. Bartender says "what's with the big paws."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

a dyslexic guy walks into a bra.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 04:20 PM

LOL

If he were a straight dyslexic guy, he probably had a better time at the bra than at the bar

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Guy walks into a bar and orders a double entendre. The bartender gives him one.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

F mike & mike, worst sports talk evah!!!! (but they got a point on this snyder coaching thing....sniffle...)

f chris larry!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

A week ago, Snyder HAD to know who the coach would be -- unless it was a guy who was coaching in the Super Bowl. So the one guy from the SB, Spags, isn't coming. We knew that 24 hrs ago, and Danny has known it longer than we have.

Danny's top choice should have known for the past 24 hours or if he was going to get an offer. Does it take that long to hammer out a contract and hold press conference?

NO!!!

Which means there is more going on here ...


Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hears about the insomniac, agnostic, dylexic? Stays up all night wondering whether there is a dog.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Danny's top choice should have known for the past 24 hours or if he was going to get an offer. Does it take that long to hammer out a contract and hold press conference?

NO!!!

Which means there is more going on here ...


Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 04:23 PM

Maybe they can't contact the dude because he's not on the Verizon network?

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

CL,

You've given up on Grimm? Alas, I'm the last of the self decievers.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

ZCE,

I agree he has something up his sleeve.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Latin professor orders a double martinus. Bartender asks "double martini?" Professor says "If I wanted two I'd ask."

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

two Irishmen walk out of a bar ... hey it might happen

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

no way! Grimm is my celestial #1....just so upset its not even a remote possibility i cant bear to talk about it...

Posted by: chrislarry | February 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

CL,

You've given up on Grimm? Alas, I'm the last of the self decievers.

Posted by: Skinz | February 8, 2008 04:27 PM

Things are looking grim, but not that grimm.

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The reason Fassel wasn't hired two weeks ago was not due to fan outcry (don't flatter ourselves) ... it was due to the unavailability of Rex Ryan.

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

A baby seal walks into a bar. "What can I get you?" asks the bartender. "Anything but a Canadian Club," replies the seal.

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Updated blog preferences for the position of Head Coach:

1) Russ Grimm
2) Ron Meeks
3) Steve Mariucci
6) Cardboard cutouts of dead coaches
5) Marty Mornhinweg
6) Jim Zorn
7) Joe Bugel
8) Lane Kiffin
9) Anyone but Fassel
10, 11, 12, 13) Several I forgot
14) Fassel
9)

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Proton walks in to the same bar and says "I heard there was a special"

Posted by: Original_etrod | February 8, 2008 04:15 PM

Thinking positive ...

Posted by: dcsween | February 8, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Has J La given? How can there be nothing to report from all those sources? Either DanVin has totally lost it and does not know what to do or they have a trick up their sleeve that even J La can't uncover. I guess we will find out soon (hopefully b/f the draft) although I worry my worst fears will come true when we finally hear the announcement. Have we become the Arizona Cardinals and/or Detroit Lions.

Posted by: tlpskins | February 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

b e e p

Posted by: tafka | February 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I think the O line is ok...we had a lot of injuries there...so with everyone coming back healthy and The Buges still coaching them I think The o line will be ok...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 8, 2008 04:17 PM

I would argue for some youth in the OL through the draft. I would also look at Jansen as a back-up and start either Wade or Hyer(?).

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 8, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Things are looking grim, but not that grimm.

Adam

Posted by: argh | February 8, 2008 04:29 PM

Joke of the day, ladies and gentlemen!

Posted by: psps23 | February 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Aaargh-You miss the point. The question should not be what did they do after leaving the Skins but what would they have done, if properly utilized by the Skins. See, my point now?
About the easiest thing folks can say is "where are they now-but wisecracks, aside, even you know LaVar Arrington's career did not have the satisfying conclusion because Snyder got mad at him about that 6.5 mil. and Williams/Dale Lindsey wanted to show Arrington "a thing or two"- about not needing him.

I'm assuming you know the game, so let me ask you- how exactly does Lloyd get to shine when Gibbs does not want to use him?
We saw this with Spurrier-Snyder goes and gets players for the coach w/o his input-and the offended coach promptly plants the guy on the bench.
I see you have quips and all,but do you have an answer for that. Gibbs or Snyder by proxy, decided to punish/humiliate these guys by having them dress and not play.
Again, I'm assuming you know the game, so you should know that this is not uncommon, Al Davis punished Marcus Allen for a good chunk of his career in much the same way.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

To leevi98- Again, you miss the point. All the examples I gave were just that-EXAMPLES

They were examples of front office dysfunction. Perhaps, that's why you "don't know what to make of this post"

Are you telling us that you have no ability to divine someone giving examples to support a point made. Whaaaaat?!?!?! That's incredible. I guess the next time I will point out that these are EXAMPLES that support my point of view.
Stop taking things so literally-you and Aargh are fighting the EXAMPLES dude!
Did you even get my point? You know, the words that came before the EXAMPLES??

Posted by: ArmchairGM | February 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hire Joe Bugels as HC for a year!

Posted by: admin | February 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason how's about an update punk? What's wrong are you spending to much time
getting your pedicure. manicure and brazilian wax to give us update? Does your wife prefer the landing strip or completly bare? Or did your wife take you underwear shopping again. Now you are being paid to be a reporter and write a blog get off your fat thong wearing ass
and your job.

Posted by: dave2002ti | February 8, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel !!!

Posted by: theclevz | February 8, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

or Grimm :)

Posted by: theclevz | February 8, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The course of action that is beginning to get some traction as an alternative to Fassel is to bump Zorn to HC. This makes some sense. It appears he was hired to establish a version of the WCO in DC. The WCO would actually fit the Skins well. Many reports are that Fassel endorsed ZOrn, but Fassel has little history with the WCO personally, so what value added is he to a HC move largely focused on integrating a new offensive scheme. Some would argue that Fassel's been a HC and Zorn only a position coach. Fassel's record as a HC and OC does not end well though. QB and QB coach are dynamic positions of leadership on any NFL team, so Zorn possesses more leadership experience in fact than on paper. Fassel has a past title, but his experience is a minus and his value-added to a WCO initiative w/ the Skins is unapparent. Zorn is a rising star whose leadership experience is under rated, but whose value added to the WCO plan is what the FO is already banking the Skins future on. The Skins should alter their plan to use the weekend to build acceptance of Fassel and hire the man as HC that they're already invested in for the Skins' success; Jim Zorn.

Posted by: RedskinsReverend | February 9, 2008 6:26 AM | Report abuse

i read muls comment about if jkcooke still owned the team, and was alive, he would have a HC that would of had the skins in SB or playoffs. i guess he fotgets that the cookes were the ones who started the team downhill. the first time gibbs retired there were no decent players that stayed. pettibone was made HC and then fired after one season. he had no talent on the team left. then cooke hires turner and he was kept around longer than he should have been. we had seven horrible years that was cookes fault. not saying dan is doing any better at this point. chad johson would love to come to skins and get a huge paycheck just like deion sanders did. that way he really does not have to play.

Posted by: rls1041 | February 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

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