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An Unrestricted Chemistry Lesson

Jason Reid looks at the relationship between Jason Campbell and Santana Moss.

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By Cindy Boren  |  September 30, 2008; 9:45 AM ET
 
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First!

Go skins beat Phily.

Posted by: RambleOn | September 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Jason needs to work on his on camera skins. More pep.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Westbrook will def play. That's prob why he rested last game to be fully prepared for a divisional game.....

Re: Schedule - Let's not look to far ahead. (You might get giddy like I just did)

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 30, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 30, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Hey it went up fast there!

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Nice way to call him out scampbell1975

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 30, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | September 30, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Ah now the Cowboy fans are complaining that Thrash celebrated on the star..

http://www.examiner.com/x-850-Dallas-Cowboys-Examiner~y2008m9d29-Redskins-so-no-class-in-win-over-Cowboys

No class, tell that to the parole bored suckas

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Boy, if the Skins beat Philly on Sunday, they're 2-1 in division with the remaining slate of division games at FedEx. They're playing with house money if they can pull it; at least two wins at home and they're 4-2 in division, which would likely bode well for any tie-breaker scenario. Oh the possibilities...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Scamp, nice job with punching holes in guru's attempt at a retreat. Again, what a fraud.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

4th great article I am going to post it so that the internet challanged at work can read it.


Make no mistake about it, the Washington Redskins' 26-24 win over the Dallas Cowboys was no fluke.


The better team won.

Not the better collection of talent. Jerry Jones has pieced together an excellent mosaic of individual talent. They are big and fast on defense, quick and sharp on offense.

The Redskins aren't as impressive under the stop watch or doing the bench press. They sent three players to the Pro Bowl, 10 fewer than did Dallas, and one of them was their long snapper.

But in the fourth quarter of a six-point game, the Redskins got it done and the Cowboys didn't. The Skins came together as a team while Dallas was focused on one tile in its mosaic.

Dallas took possession with 10:48 after the Redskins had taken that six-point lead. Washington had turned Chris Horton's interception of Tony Romo into a field goal. Romo, of course, is one of the NFL's glamour boys while Horton is a rookie seventh-round pick. But the rook jumped the route and picked off the Pro Bowler.

So the Redskins go back on defense with some of their backs sidelined with cramps and other muscle ailments. The Cowboys go three and out with all three plays being passes going to a tightly covered individual, one Terrell Owens.

Were the three attempts to TO an response to "give me the ball" complaints on the sideline, an effort to prevent a blowup by #81?

As far as I know, nobody asked those questions.

In any case, the Redskins took over at their own 34 after a punt. What followed hasn't been talked about much, but if this turns out to be a special season for the Washington Redskins the 12-play, 6:54 drive that followed will be one of those moments to remember.

Back in the prime of The Hogs, game-clinching drives like this one were accomplished primarily through brute strength with the offensive line blasting back a tired defensive front and a big back slamming in behind them.

This drive was achieved by using a combination of brains and brawn.

Watching it again and breaking it down, I noted that on a few occasions Dallas was in a pass-defense alignment, with only five in the box, when it seemed apparent that the Redskins were in a running frame of mind. This was a result of Jim Zorn's play calling in late-game situations over the last two weeks when he has shown a willingness to pass in run-out-the-clock scenarios.

1-10-WAS 34 (10:16) 26-C.Portis left guard to WAS 37 for 3 yards (94-D.Ware).

Dallas has the two outside linebacker crowding the line with an inside linebacker five yards off the line.

2-7-WAS 37 (9:38) 26-C.Portis up the middle to WAS 48 for 11 yards (25-P.Watkins).

The two outside backers are again at the line with the two inside LB's within five yards. The safeties both are fairly shallow, about 11 yards downfield. The offensive line gets about three yards of push and Sellers clears the way for Portis to break for the last five yards.

1-10-WAS 48 (8:58) 26-C.Portis right end to DAL 39 for 13 yards (55-Z.Thomas).

Every Dallas defender except one safety is within five yards of the line. There isn't as much surge by the line this time but a large hole opens between Jansen and Thomas. Portis shakes off an attempted tackle by Bradie James (who was expending an awful lot of energy preening and celebrating earlier in the game) and breaks loose for five more.

1-10-DAL 39 (8:18) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 47-C.Cooley pushed ob at DAL 33 for 6 yards (98-G.Ellis). Pass complete off play-action and roll right.

Only six in the box this time, a pass defense alignment. Cooley sets up as if to block for a moment and Greg Ellis and a safety are fooled. Cooley slides into the flat and catches Campbell's throw off of the bootleg.

2-4-DAL 33 (7:43) 46-L.Betts left tackle to DAL 31 for 2 yards (94-D.Ware; 55-Z.Thomas). Timeout #1 by WAS at 06:58.

Three linebackers crowd the line and the line gets no push.

3-2-DAL 31 (6:58) (Shotgun) 26-C.Portis up the middle to DAL 31 for no gain (94-D.Ware). PENALTY on DAL, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 31 - No Play.

All 12 defenders are within five yards of the line with nine of them on the line. I'm not sure how Wade Phillips could be paying attention and not see the mistake. As you know, it wasn't one of these situations where a player is caught running off the field at the snap. They were all right there, seven crowding the middle, two corners in press coverage and a linebacker and a safety—apparently the extra defender—five yards back.

1-10-DAL 26 (6:32) 26-C.Portis right end to DAL 25 for 1 yard (96-M.Spears).

Dallas has six in the box. The Redskins get no push and Marcus Spears gets penetration and trips up Portis before he got going.

2-9-DAL 25 (5:52) 46-L.Betts left tackle to DAL 18 for 7 yards (72-S.Bowen).

This is where it looks like the fact that Zorn has shown that he's willing to call a pass in what normally would be a running situation pays off. The safeties are 10 yards downfield, the corners are playing seven yards back from Moss and Randle El, and Zack Thomas is six yards downfield. So in a situation where the other team is pounding the ball down your throat and is in an I formation with a tight end, the Dallas D is lined up just like it would be in the second quarter of a 7-7 game. The offensive line gets a nice surge and Betts follows the pile for seven yards.

3-2-DAL 18 (5:07) 46-L.Betts right guard to DAL 16 for 2 yards (99-C.Canty; 96-M.Spears).

The entire Dallas defense is within eight yards of the line this time. Betts disappears into the pile at the line of scrimmage and finds enough daylight in between three Dallas defenders to get just enough for the first down.

1-10-DAL 16 (4:22) 46-L.Betts left guard to DAL 16 for no gain (96-M.Spears).

The defense is bunched at the line, Betts has no chance.

2-10-DAL 16 (3:37) 26-C.Portis right guard to DAL 12 for 4 yards (55-Z.Thomas). Timeout #2 by DAL at 03:30.

Again, the Cowboys are playing loose. Only six defenders are within five yards of the line.

3-6-DAL 12 (3:30) 26-C.Portis up the middle to DAL 11 for 1 yard (97-J.Hatcher). Timeout #3 by DAL at 03:26.

Zorn got the defense spread out by lining up with four wide receivers, but the line couldn't get any push despite a 5-4 man advantage. The run up the middle kept the ball in the center of the field for Suisham's clincher.

4-5-DAL 11 (3:26) (Field Goal formation) 6-S.Suisham 29 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-67-E.Albright, Holder-14-D.Brooks.

WAS 26 DAL 17 Plays: 12 Possession: 6:54

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Brown,

Stay medium

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/09/30/redskins-shaun-suisham-misses-field-goal-gets-3-points-vs-cow/

Also sore loser team claims that Reffs miscalled the FG and that we should have lost by 2. I say, BS and they need to be showing FG's from the other direction like they do in AFL games and Madden.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

The Cowboys need to quit their crying and accept they got their taints handed to them in their own building. All this crying over "dancing on the star" and field goals and what not--GET OVER IT! I hope they keep sulking and lose to Cincinnati this week.

And what's with the Thrash dancing on the star bit? HE'S IN THE END ZONE!!! He's a little used vet who got his first TD of the season! If you don't want your star danced on, don't put the damn thing in the end zone!

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Flound, thanks for the post.

Good read...Zorn seems to have a grasp for this playcalling thing...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

since when is having your taint handled a bad thing?

Posted by: chrislarry | September 30, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Zorn seems to have a grasp for this playcalling thing...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 10:31 AM |

And he's going to need it in Philly this weekend with that D. Should be another great game.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 30, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

cl, might have been too much info on the taint thingy, just an fyi....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

By the way, TO apparently had a "serious talk" with Romo following the game Sunday.

From Matt Mosely:

'We've spent the early portion of the 2008 season reading about Terrell Owens the consummate teammate. In fact, he was praised more for his hustle than his receptions following the Cowboys' recent win over the Packers. As one local talk show host put it, "T.O.'s turned into our own little Rudy."


Terrell Owens didn't like how he was being used Sunday in Dallas' loss to Washington.

On Sunday, though, T.O. felt underutilized following a 26-24 loss to the Redskins. Never mind the fact that 19 of the Cowboys' 58 offensive plays went his direction. He's apparently aiming for 50 percent of the plays, which might encourage him to complete most of his routes.

Now, we receive the shocking news that T.O. had a "serious conversation" with quarterback Tony Romo immediately following Sunday's game. According to Calvin Watkins of the Dallas Morning News, T.O. was "venting" his frustration to Romo, in part, over the types of routes he's being asked to run.

For those of us who cover the team on a semi-regular basis, this is a confusing development. Unless there have been sweeping changes at Valley Ranch (in the past 20 minutes), Romo's not responsible for designing routes. According to head coach Wade Phillips, Romo's primary focus right now is checking out of running plays.

When multiple sources confirm that Romo and T.O. had a serious conversation, what exactly does that mean? Did they each have stern looks on their faces while T.O. went over his favorite route tree?

In reading between the lines, it seems that T.O. was frustrated with his quarterback. And that would barely be worth mentioning if the receiver didn't have so much quarterback baggage.

I watched the "Monday Night Football Countdown" crew talk about the T.O. situation for several minutes last night and Tom Jackson's convinced this thing's headed for trouble. He and Mike Ditka agreed that owner Jerry Jones needs to have a (wait for it) serious conversation with T.O. before things get out of hand.

With the woeful Bengals headed to town, I think this controversy will blow over. Heaven forbid that Tony and T.O. might have to have another postgame conversation.'

Posted by: psps23 | September 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Well there fans are right about the refs missing calls but I dont think it hurt them at any point. Thats one of the biggest things about this win. They had the refs on their side,their o-line was holding all day and instead they call defensive holding on us twice, not even going to explain the TD's takin back that was just craziness. tip balls falling in redneck wittens hands for first downs. they score first yet with everything going in their favor we held our resolve and kept brining it on offense and shutting down on D. Gettin love from Philly fan at work for seting the TO meltodwn clock into fast mode.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

C'mon greg, embrace the taint!

I love that we caused panic in T.O. Park!!!!!!

I am even ok with the media narrative of this TO vs Romo thing dominate over the skins victory...we get back under the radar and that soap opera starts to explode!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 30, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

It was about the bake sale. Thats what romo and to were seriously talking about, the bake sale

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Serious question, is TO a homosexual and in the closet or something? Nothing wrong with it if he is, but maybe if he came out he would be a better person.

I only ask because I have never heard about a GF or wife, and they guy just strikes me as having something inside eating away at him.

I know he is suicidal and all? What's his deal?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

cl, we've had our differences, but in the end we're both skins fans, and want the best for the team. That being said, I'm not sure I can embrace your taint, I'm just not going to that level of committment.

However, agreed on back to stealth mode, nothing to see here.....move along...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

cl is tainted? I never knew..

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 30, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

We have more important things to discuss, like how to smack phillys D in the, well wherever people want to smack them most.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Taint talk is always funny, "the forgotten E-Zone"

Difference make it interesting, sameness is lameness!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

JC is going to have to get the ball out of his hands very quickly this week and JZ needs to confuse the Eagles defense pass out of run formation and run out of pass formations.

They need to use there agressivness against them, Philly's offense does not scare me there WR are not that good, Westbook is a beast but I think we can control him he may get some yards but no big plays.

They need to smack McNabb early an often I do not care if they get a sack but he needs to be put to the ground, they did not sack Romo but they knocked him down and pressured him all day.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

We need to play em with some respect. But I think if we can control the clock and grind it out take our deep shots at moss once those Safeties come up against the run we have a good chance. We need a steady rotation of the RB's maybe all three even. Love to give Portis a series then Ladle, have rock go 3-4 downs and have the no 1/2 compare notes on what they are seeing and get back in there.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/michael_lombardi/09/29/Week4/index.html

Just singing our praises now all of them......I hate it.

Skinz

Posted by: Gweez | September 30, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Taint Misbehavin'?

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

On O JC is going to have to make quick and correct reads, somewhat obvious this is the NFL but in the zone blitz theyll send 8 to the line then drop three back and actually only end up rushing 4 or five. that meas you have to read who is blitizing and from where and make sure not to throw it where they are dropping back, that again sounds obvious but you would be amazed the amount of times a QB ends up throwing it right at one of their backpeddling blitzers after he dosent blitz. The biggest weapon we have against that is CP not only for his great reads on the blitz and knockout block potential but we will need him to be big in the passing department getting to an open part of the field when they bring the house to give JC an easy outlet, if you get that pass to him it could also mean huge gains.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I've said before, I think that Philly can be pushed around, they're not the biggest line, so I'm thinking that running room could be had. I also think that by running the ball you creep Dawk up towards the line, and then you double move Moss, on play action.

Passing yards can be had on this team.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I dunno Greg. I think their D is probably somewhere close to the Gmen's. Fortunately I don't think the O that played the Gmen in that first game is anywhere as good as the one we have now.

How great is it to watch your O go on the field and actually feel good about it. It's been a long time.

Posted by: Gweez | September 30, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The best way to beat philly is to run the ball to the edges, alot of draw plays for the zone blitzes, alot of screens, and deep shots to keep the safeties from coming up to much.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | September 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I've said before, I think that Philly can be pushed around, they're not the biggest line, so I'm thinking that running room could be had. I also think that by running the ball you creep Dawk up towards the line, and then you double move Moss, on play action.

Passing yards can be had on this team.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 11:13 AM

Good stuff, Greg. It also calls to mind that the nickname "Double Move" is heretofore transfered from Carlos Rogers to Terence Newman. So let it be written, so let it be done.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"They've told me it will help them to know how widespread the problem is and if it happens every time you post or once in a while, so please keep us informed -- either here or via email."

Every time. About 45 seconds wait, then error message (or maybe busy network message). Then reloading the site. Then wait 30 seconds, reload again, and my post appears.

In addition to Carlos Rogers and Rocky McIntosh really stepping up their game this season, I have to call out talent evaluator who has really stepped up his game in the chuckle-worthy post department. I think an intervention by Coach Mull It during the offseason and preseason has worked wonders. If I knew anyone on the Awards Committee, I'd pass along a supportive word, but I think they gone underground since registration.

Posted by: dcsween | September 30, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I think one way to handle those blitz tricks Stu mentioned is having your no 1 guy on an option rout. where they run a rout adjusting to what they see in terms of zone coverages.

Give CP Moss and Cooley the option of 2-3 directions to run his rout depending on what he sees.

The thing we have going for us is tape. Watch how Dallas used halfwitten and get an idea what to do with 47.

Hard to get a read on how well the blitz works for Philly, they did good against bad lines. Looking at Pitt last night, Lt. Dan could have broke through that line.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Except that time. That post went up right away without delay.

Posted by: dcsween | September 30, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

They fixed it DC thats why.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Greg, reminds me about the wondering aloud up here (was that only yesterday? I'm walking on a cloud after that win Sunday, completely lost track of time...) whether Jansen will start again and what effect that might have on our ability to run in a rightward direction... sure enjoyed watching these guys impose their will on the Cowboys and eat clock late... (and THANKS to Flounder for the play-by-play recap of that critical, beautiful drive).

Taint That a Shame?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I would argue that the key is to not allow Dawkins to creep to the line. The deeper he is the better chance moss has of beating him.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I'm starting to think that starting Heyer was a coaching ploy to get Jansen motivated to play lights out ball. If Heyer was somehow graded higher than Jansen, he'd still be starting without question. But since they're pulling him immediately like this, either this was done to get into Jansen's head or Heyer just isn't the player they thought he was.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I love Gibbs and his first time around there was no one better at in game ajustments, second time around not so much.

I think Zorn and his staff do a great job of ajusting during the game, and this will pay off against a team that blitzes the way the Eagles do.

We should not compare anything done in the Gints game to anything being done now this is a totally different team we have, can't explain the Gints game and really do not care anymore.

Dallas showed how you can pass on this team lets hope the coaching staff, can figure it out. They are stout against the run but the Skins need to use the run alot, they've been very balanced in most of the games.

Chicago was able to get 4 turnovers from them we need to win that battle this week as well.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I think some screens might be in order. TE screens, WR screens, RB screens. Blunt thier up the field rush. Draw plays as well. Get the philly DE's flying up the field, and then screen pass in the area that they vacated.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

beepity beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I dunno about screens, I think the eagles have too much speed for that.

I would not mind some quick out's on an overload side where you get a WR or TE or two making a block so the guy who get's the ball can turn it up field. But the eagles still look quick enough to stop a screen in the backfield. Better off with a downfield short yard play where they still pick up 2-3 yards regardless.

Beep beep btw

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I'm starting to think that starting Heyer was a coaching ploy to get Jansen motivated to play lights out ball. If Heyer was somehow graded higher than Jansen, he'd still be starting without question. But since they're pulling him immediately like this, either this was done to get into Jansen's head or Heyer just isn't the player they thought he was.

Posted by: brownwood26

Or Heyer is too injured to get back just yet.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Bobby Carpenter is on ESPN2's first take.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

There wasn't anything in that webcast that any serious Redskins fan couldn't have said at the least prompting.

Posted by: WorstSeat | September 30, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Cooley is going to have to be ready this week. More so than others because Philly is going to blitz the bejesus out of us and CC is going to be the hot read more times than not. Also having malcolm Kelly available will not hurt anything. couls also be the week that Sleepy Davis gets more PT. 2 TEs will work nice against Philly in the run game

Posted by: Hail2theChief | September 30, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Just got word from my boy. I will be in Philly this weekend reppin' Redskins Nation. I think I'll wear the 75yr. anniversary CP jersey. they gonna be seein the back of one ALL DAY!! Can't wait for Sunday!!

Posted by: Hail2theChief | September 30, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

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