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Another Day Of OTAs

Odds and ends from Wednesday:

Tackle Jon Jansen is officially the No. 2 center on the depth chart, O Line Coach Joe Bugel said. Jansen and Bugel discussed the situation and given all the depth at tackle and the lack of a proven player to back-up stalwart center Casey Rabach, Jansen is working with the centers in some drills.

Jansen, who would be one of the taller centers around, is working on snapping the ball, something he did occasionally at Michigan many moons ago. The Redskins opted not to draft a backup guard in the draft, but did take one offensive lineman to bolster the aging group - Chad Rinehart. After drafting Rinehart Coach Jim Zorn and vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said he would be working at center with the Redskins, but Bugel said that Rinehart is working primarily at guard for now and is not snapping the ball.

"Jon has been a back-up center in college and we have him working at back-up center," Bugel said. "We always want to get the five best guys on the field, so if Rabach got hurt who do you plug in? Right now I'd have to say Jon Jansen."

The only other guys at center are 2008 un-drafted free agent Andrew Crummey, a Maryland product who was injured at the combine and Justin Geisinger, who was on the practice squad last year.

The Redskins have Stephon Heyer and Todd Wade at tackle, who could spell Jansen should Jon need to get move inside for a time with Rabach out. The Redskins have begun to develop a young lineman or two, but Lorenzo Alexander is working primarily with the defensive linemen now, and if it's me I'm finding a veteran who has snapped the ball in this league before the start of camp.

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Rookie quarterback Colt Brennan is doing more drills now but is still not cleared to face any live contact. Brennan is recovering from hip surgery and said, "I'm four weeks from being 100 percent." Zorn, a driving force behind the decision to select Brennan - a collegiate record-setter at Hawaii - late in the draft, said he is pleased with what he has seen from Brennan thus far.

"He has been in on a seven-on-seven situation and he's starting to come around," Zorn said. "Really, I'm encouraged with Colt. He's doing a great job."

Brennan is one of five quarterbacks on the roster and is fighting to be the third QB this season. Sam Hollenbach (Maryland) and Derek Devine are the other young quarterbacks on the roster, with Jason Campbell the starter and Todd Collins the backup.

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Zorn, who has a reputation for "thinking outside the box" (hate that term but I'm kinda rushing here so I'm taking a lazy cop-out), brought out some huge silver exercise balls and started up a game of dodgeball. For real.

One quarterback held the ball in the pocket and the other quarterbacks chucked the balls at him from various directions. The QB holding the football - not the dodgeball - would have to slither and slide away from the big silver balls, simulating having to elude an oncoming defensive player ... without the obvious risk of injury.

"It 's (a drill) I've been doing to get the quarterbacks to be able to move without a real live guy (chasing them)," Zorn said. "It's been an effective drill to help improve the quarterback's feet and his lateral movement, and what's great with those big balls we use, if we were using smaller balls all they'd have to do is duck; here you really have to move your feet to get out of the way."

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Zorn was exacerbated by the flurry of offsides and procedural penalties that dogged the offense during the team portion of practice. Those rough patches are natural during a transition such as this, but Zorn was not pleased. "Every snap counts," Zorn said, "and we can't concentrate for them. We can't line them up. They have to come out of the huddle knowing where they are and knowing where that snap count is." ... Cornerback Shawn Springs was absent again. Zorn joked that the Redskins had sent out an "APB" on him. "We're still trying to communicate," Zorn said. Spoke to some people close to Springs who say there is a chance he may be able to get in to town next week ... The injured group of players was the same as it has been throughout this week of OTAs, and no one from that group is scheduled to be cleared for full contact before training camp ... Got to spend some time with Morocco Brown before practice for a story I am working on. Seems like a great dude and I have heard nothing but positive stuff about him. He's just getting acclimated to his move here and is excited to be back with this organization, and close to his roots in Hampton, VA ... See ya on Washington Post Live on Comcast.

By Jason La Canfora  |  June 4, 2008; 2:17 PM ET
 
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Comments

red thongs!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

maroon g-strings!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

black panties!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

invisible crotchless edible undies!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

mint chocolate chip ice cream?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

BONG hit with panties on my head!

BONG!

Posted by: BigMurf08 | June 4, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

They did the dodgeball routine at Mini Camp after the draft.

Waiting for the slip n slide...with the linemen.

Posted by: the_squire | June 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Breyers Ice Cream. Any flavor.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn and his giant silver balls...

John Jansen to play center with two broken thumbs, thus proving he is a true badass OL.

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Zorn did that drill in Seattle.

I did that drill in 3rd grade.

That drill is now illegal on playgrounds and in gymnasiums in several states.

It is a high risk/high yield drill. I've seen many a torn achilles during dodgeball. I hope Zorn knows what he's asking of his QBs.

Posted by: Dorf | June 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

A story about Morocco Brown (yawn) whois is like 3 or 4 down on the totem pole...or how about a story on Wilbur Marshall and what he has been through...http://www.theredskinreport.com/2008/01/16/ex-redskin-wilbur-marshall-wins-case-against-nfl-again/

Morocco Brown?

Welcome to the team dude, but there are other stories out there with more meat.

Posted by: the_squire | June 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins opted not to draft a backup guard in the draft, but did take one offensive lineman to bolster the aging group - Chad Rinehart.

Seems kind of contradictory, but I appreciate the updates just the same.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Exacerbated? You mean exasperated?

Posted by: Dictionary | June 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, seems like practicing with a tall center like Jansen could set back Soup's mechanics a bit. Since he's been squatting to deal with the height/rabach clearance issue.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

We hear his balls are big but how big? Dodge ball size, medicine ball size, exercise ball?

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the other Rabach issue

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Heads up Loudoun peeps...Tornado Warning.

- 4-12

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Yah, I hope Jansen can get his a$$ up high enough when he snaps the ball.

Posted by: Karen | June 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Dang -- I always wanted a job where I got paid to play dodge ball

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I love the dodge ball. Anyone up for a dodge ball shebangus some time?

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Or flag football or somthin

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Something is wrong when Zorn can't reach Springs at all. Not saying I know what is going on, but its not making sense.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

al, I'd say it, much like Laron not being there for day 1, is much ado about nothing.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Springs absence isn't a problem since he knows the defense and knows what he needs to do to be ready. He did the same thing last year and had a strong season.

But that his absence is a mystery to Zorn, something isn't adding up.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Black Thongs

Posted by: jm220 | June 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what has been happening with Ron Springs? Is he still in that coma?

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

yes

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Accodrding to Wiki, Ron springs is still in a coma in Texas.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Deja-Vu?

Gibbs & Sean 'the MEAST' Taylor.

So, what happened that year? Eh, we went to da playoffs where we should've, could've, would've, but didn't beat the Seahawks........

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Snitching over a misdemeanor. Embarrassing and more ahole behavior coming out of NE.
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BOSTON (AP) -- An attorney says New England Patriots lineman Nicholas Kaczur (ka-ZUR') was arrested on drug charges, then helped federal authorities in a sting operation that led to the indictment of a supplier.

Kaczur was arrested in New York in April on a misdemeanor charge of illegal possession of oxy codone.

The alleged dealer, Daniel Ekasala (eck-ah-SAH'-lah), was arrested last month and faces arraignment Wednesday. Court documents show an unnamed cooperating witness wore a hidden recording device during three drug transactions with Ekasala.

On Wednesday, Ekasala's lawyer, Bernard Grossberg, identified the cooperating witness as Kaczur.

The Boston Globe reports Kaczur denies knowledge of the investigation.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Anon, I could not be happier that the ugly side of the pats is being exposed for all to see. They've had 2 guys arrested for possession of mary-jane, and then this. They're like the Bengals of the East Coast.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the HGH they are using over there, though I know a few using on our team, so we'll let that one pass....

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

4th,

If I had to guess, I'd say HGH use is widespread in the NFL; not just on the Redskins or the Patriots.

I'm with Sly Stallone on this issue: As long as our guys don't get caught, I have no problem with HGH.

In fact, I wish I had me some HGH.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the HGH they are using over there, though I know a few using on our team, so we'll let that one pass....

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 3:46 PM

Care to name names? I heard nothing about HGH use on the skins or pats.

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Alex, Rodney Harrison got pinched for 4 games for using HGH.

Chia, as an inanimate object what would you do with the HGH?

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

In my case, that would be CGH, but whatever.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Greg wants names 4th.

What do you know?

Names, please...

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Alex wants names too, 4th.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Something tells me that Colt Brennan is not using HGH.

Todd Collins; no HGH either.

Derrick Frost; no HGH.

CP: direct HGH infusion in his neck.

L2: " "

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Seriously if CP's neck got any bigger they would need to give him a second pair of shoulder pads

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Springs is doing HGH as we speak.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

CP = HGH

NO HGH = NO CP

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

There was an ESPN the Mag article talking about HGH 2 years ago that said (roughly) 6-8 members of the Redskins visit this 'doctor' who gives them the HGH. He is not a MD (real doctor) but all the players call him Doc. They didn't directly name names (I think) but that year you could see that some starters bulked up really huge.

We had a discussion about up here and we all pretty much assumed those players, well some of them. I don't want to spell out any names though........

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The same report said that members of the Panthers and Falcons also visit the same doctor.

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Doc Walker?

(Can we play the "doc" game again?)

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

DAN SNYDER JUST BROUGHT SPORTSTALK 980

Posted by: 4th via Breaking News | June 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

From Cooley's blog:

Clinton Portis was called for a test in the middle of a party at his mother's house. It shouldn't have been a big deal to head up to the bathroom and take care of business. But the problem was that the side door to the bathroom connected to his mother's bedroom. It must have been so embarrassing for him to have his mom walk into the bathroom with his pants down and package in-hand while another man stares intently.

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I'm assuming CP passed the test.

HGH, however, cannot be detected via a urine sample.

You need blood for that.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

At least Danny is taking his HGH. Not that it has helped him much.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Czaben and Andy Polley are Sh*ting in their pants as they are talking right now!

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

OK, Nate:

Doctor Doolittle.

Your turn again...

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Eh, What's up Doc?!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny | June 4, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder adds another piece to his media empire. Giving Rupert Murdoch a run for his money?

Wow, just wow!

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Doctor John York (one of the few NFL owners that is worse than Danny)

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Dr. (Brady) Quinn, Medicine Woman

Posted by: Derek Anderson | June 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a done deal...better signal on the AM stations...unless it is an afternoon/night game...

http://news.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/$rol.exe/headline_id=b10931

Posted by: the_squire | June 4, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, right Mr. Snyder?

Does this mean we'll be able to listen to Skins games on 980 now?

Posted by: swb | June 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Feelgood.

Posted by: 4:20pm | June 4, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Snyder's motto: "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em and make them suck too."

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: the_squire | June 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

4th, do you have a link for the Sportstalk 980 rumor??? Where did you hear this?

Posted by: Pablo | June 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Terry Bradshaw
Doctorate in Passology

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

After the disappointment of the 2007-2008 season and threats by the current ownership to move the team from San Francisco, a small band of 49er fans have begun to call on the current ownership to sell the team in a manner similar to the Green Bay Packers. This would entail selling the team by manner of offering shares publicly and ensuring that no one person owns more than twenty percent of the total number of shares issued. The NFL rules, however, prevent such a situation occurring.

http://www.dumpyork.com/

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

How did I miss that we got Brennan?!? wtf!! That guy is going to be football royalty - you watch.

He is SEVERELY underrated. And he played awesome last year.

I bet you see him as the starter in 2-3 years.

Ok, now I'm psyched!

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Portis at #9, sounds about right. But the running game isn't nearly as important as the passing game. Look at Minn, best run game in the league, no pass and a .500 team.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Stupid 69er fans not knowing the NFL ban that like 4 decades ago. That said I kinda wish every team had a % ownership by the fans.

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is a disgusting human being.

Newspapers are next.

Then the world.

The homers are probably in utopia right now. No matter what Napolean does, nothing but positive, chipper news will be broadcast on the radio from here on out.

What a terrible day for the "voice of the fans".

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

4th, do you have a link for the Sportstalk 980 rumor??? Where did you hear this?

Posted by: Pablo | June 4, 2008 4:24 PM

They were talking about it (finally) on the radio. DCRTV.com reported this initially over a month ago. The post picked up on it last week.

And today, Red Zebra Broadcasting put the release out that they purchased 3-5 Clear Channel stations, including WTEM 980.

I don't have a problem listening to them at night. I listen to the Wiz games all the time on that station.....

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Went to a Skins game vs SF at the dump known as Candlestick. This was in year 1 of Gibbs 2.0 with Ramsey at QB. There were a ton of people wearing "dump the yorks" t-shirts.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Forget it....the_squire posted the link.

Posted by: Pablo | June 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

.250 / a.k.a 4-12 is Dan Snyder.

You watch.

He'll be there at the shinborgus.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Great now we get to hear more Larry Michael! Great move

sarcasm

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Watch them dump the Yorks and move the team to LA.

Posted by: Alex35332 | June 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

There is the option of not being a fan any long there Rick. Ever thought of that?

Instead of pissing and whining about the ownership, take action. Root for any of the 31 other teams.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dik,

WTF?

You missed that we picked up Colt Brennan?

Agreed that this kid is a gamer, even without the HGH.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, Skins won the game. Skins had 4 picks that day. Sean Taylor had one. Pierce returned a pick for a TD. Portis ran for 100. On the downside, I was told that apparently all the Gold Rush girls (cheerleaders) have herpes.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a good game at the Stick, Zeke.

The part about the Gold Rush Girls must have been a buzz kill, though.

Did you really think you had a chance, though?

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Herpes is real deal breaker, in any event.

(prays)

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

yeah, I totally missed that! durrrrr.

I heard an interview w/ him down here & he was WAY on top of his shti!

I really am totally amped we got him. He's better than Soup.

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Not that I'm looking for specifics, but how does a clay-chia pet go about....you know....consumating things??

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

++++Morocco Brown?

Welcome to the team dude, but there are other stories out there with more meat.

Posted by: the_squire | June 4, 2008 2:36 PM++++

So true. Because, like the redskins haven't had any problems with scouting or personnel acquisition over he last dozen or so years.

Posted by: Corkczar | June 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Great WRITING. Keep them coming!

Posted by: Rando IN LA | June 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

We hump like you do, Greg:

Humpty hump, we do the humpty hump...

(stubby chia hands in the air)

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I really am totally amped we got him. He's better than Soup.

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 4:40 PM

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No, you didn't!

Nate's gonna be pissed!

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh...I didn't need to know all that.....

Thanks. Don't take this the wrong way, but chia pet 'relations' are disgusting to me.

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Annon,

Wow. What a wonderful idea. I'll throw away the team I've been a fan of since birth and pick a new one out of a hat...

The winner is... the Cardinals. Darn.

Well, regardless of my pick, that was easy. Whew. I guess I don't have any gripes anymore.

cough.

Um, why don't have the right to call a spade a spade and complain about this evil little man? And why does that mean I have to abandon my favorite team since birth because of it?

My guess is that you're going to love the new Snyder monopoly over the DC radio airwaves. When he screws the fans over again... and again... and the team is sitting at 5-10, there will be nothing but bells playing over the airwaves because everyone who has a voice on the air will also be receiving a paycheck from Lord Snyder.

Utopia for homers at last. What a joke.

And next time post your name, Pub.


Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I dont know if anyone has had a chance to look at ESPN's web site but they have a list of the top 64 RB's in today's NFL. They have Clinton Portis at #9 behind, Marion Barber, Joseph Addai, and Frank Gore.

how is this possible?

Posted by: Great One | June 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

++++Colt Brennan?

Agreed that this kid is a gamer, even without the HGH.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 4:32 PM++++

Chia, Dik.

Zorn wanted him, he's smarter than all of us about QBs and such as.

But the dude is 6'2" ish and tickled the Toledo's at a Buck 85. I got suits that weigh more than that.

Posted by: Corkczar | June 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Rick, first of all lighten up. If you're so good at seeing the future regarding how Snyder is going to be, do me a favor and give me tonights lotto numbers, other wise STFU, because you sounding like a whiney little b*tch.

"When he screws the fans over again... and again"

Again, I'll give you the solution to this. Don't like the owner, don't like, as you put it, "getting screwed over", simple fix there Rickster.

Atlanta
Baltimore
Carolina
Denver
Frisco
Green Bay

See...lots of choices....

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Wow some people actually believe in Colt Brenna.

My Bulldogs DESTROYED him. One hit in the NFL and his career might be over.

Posted by: Hizzle | June 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

G-one, I can see Addai, and after the season he had 2 years ago, I could see Gore as well, but the Barber selection I just don't understand. He's a good player, and he runs hard, but has he broken 1000 yards in a season yet?

Posted by: Greg | June 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Brennan's in good company w/ that size:

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=MONTAJOE01

granted, today's linemen are humongo... but it's do-able, and it's not like he was playing wuss-ball w/ Hawaii...

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Annon,

Pot... meet kettle.

and Frisco? Wow. I like them. Would I have to call them "Frisco" and sound like as big of a fruit cake as you?

1-0

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

I feel like the burgers have gotten better at Johnny Rocket's since Mr. Snyder took over and I'm sure the same will be true of this sports talk thing. Keep your chin up!

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Nicely done Rickster, with the homophobic comments. Good job.

Good call keeping score as well, what are you 5 years old?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

The only good Nats player was just put on the DL.

I forecast a drunken group in the outfield talking Redskins and playing pick up football between innings......

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

TE knows his burgers, no argument there.

I have no problem with Dan Snyder, either.

Sorry, Ricky Bobby!

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but I'm with anon on this one.

Sorry, Ricky Bobby!

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

TE,

Hilarious. I definitely agree on JR's. I can't wait for the Popeye's commercials on the new WTEM 980 "the voice of the fa, I mean Dan Snyder".


Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Marion Barber has not achieved 1,000 yards, joseph addai had 1 good season, Frank gore had 2 good seasons, but Clinton portis has had 6 good seasons. I will take it a step further, I dont believe Larry johnson should be ahead of him. he had that one break out season and has not produced near that level.

Posted by: Great One | June 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Czaben is about to call the Riggo show!

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse


"You won't notice anything wrong with my passing," said Brennan, who owns the NCAA record for career passing touchdowns.

boooyah.

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

chia,

nothing new here. I rarely post on here anymore, but everyone on the blog hates me because of my strong dislike for Dan Snyder... but that doesn't mean I should abandon my life long team because of it.


Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Great One,

Let it go, man.

ESPN power rankings, and such as, mean nada, squadoosh, zilch, zippo.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

People should be nice to Dan Snyder. He's a good man. I like him, and his ownership style.

Posted by: not Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I know that I should let it go, but I cant stand ESPN. they have such a pro cowboy bias, I dont blame dan snyder for buying his own media

Posted by: Great One | June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Someone rides you (besides Anon & his multitudinous self) for disliking the Danny?

I was actually just to a point of not even recognising when he's an a-hole 'cause it's so constant...

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

Didn't you have a date with Lisa at Johnny Rocket's? Did that work out okay?

My own sense of the "mood of the blog" is that about 3/4's of the people dislike Dan Snyder about as much as you do. Then about 1/8 are agnostic and the other 1/8 aren't sure who he is or what position he plays.

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Bobby,

No worries here.

You do your thang. I'll do mine.

I tolerate Dan Snyder, and I love Redskins.

Splain this whole "fan since birth" thing though.

How is this possible?

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

But the dude is 6'2" ish and tickled the Toledo's at a Buck 85. I got suits that weigh more than that.

Posted by: Corkczar | June 4, 2008 4:52 PM

Czar, that weight is no longer true. he was sick at the end of the season (flu), injured and lost some weight. not time off to gain that weight back. He is now in the 210-215 lb area after the combine. many college players use hgh and steroids between combine and draft since there is not testing to get bigger.

Colt is the real deal, most on here did not watch him as a FB player at Hawaii to know what they are talking about.

Posted by: donj | June 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

chia,

you know what I mean. fan since I could wipe my own arse...

TE,

yeah, Lisa and I are engaged. you should see some of the blow outs we have over the Skins though...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

yeah, Lisa and I are engaged. you should see some of the blow outs we have over the Skins though...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | June 4, 2008 5:19 PM

Wow. Who would have thought it. What a difference one letter makes -- from "enraged" to "engaged." Opposites attract!

I'm sure the blow outs are just a prelude to great make-up, uh, discussions.

Anyway, congratulations. Really happy for both of you. You're great kids and you deserve the best!

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for clearing that up Ricky Bobby.

FYI: Flushable wet ones are a superior product to regular toilet paper in every way. No shredding, no tearing, no stray shards, and leaves one feeling waaaaay refreshed, short of a shower, of course...

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

This is an awesome dock.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9958075-1.html?tag=cnetfd.mt

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

RB, I don't hate on ya....I look your truth talk...don't be such a stranger....

Posted by: chris larry | June 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Don't let JM220 know about this.....

He's a big dude.....

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Wait - I thought 'wet ones' (called 'butt wipeys' in my household, sung to the tune of 'paperback writer' by dem bugs...) WERE a shower...!! WTF?!

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Nate will be buying everyone who attends the shingabus retro WWII Ipod docks.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I mean like....

Posted by: chris larry | June 4, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

No really, CL, Nate is good like that.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Dik,

Do you not have running water in your household?

Technically, a "shower" involves things such as soap and water, but to each his own.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I 'shower' once a week, whether I need it or not!

>:-0

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Dik, you say "Colt Brennan," I say "Ty Detmer." What I mean is, show me somethin'.

This ain't no QB controversy. Maybe next spring, if Soup doesn't do what I think he's gonna do this fall.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

John Feinstein will be signing books at the Nats game on Saturday for the 2nd and 3rd inning.

As if anyone cares. I anticipating being sleep for about half the game......

Posted by: 4th | June 4, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Awwrite, kiddos - I'ma take mah dirty A$$ bak to tha 'upper east side' and give Bootz what she's got comin'

Rok Rok AUN!!

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm all blogged out...

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Awwrite, kiddos - I'ma take mah dirty A$$ bak to tha 'upper east side' and give Bootz what she's got comin'

Posted by: Dik | June 4, 2008 5:44 PM

Sweet. Dik's going home to give his dog some kibble.

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Luck to everyone out in the DC area in the path of the tornado hitting there.

Posted by: donj1963 | June 4, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The Zorn factor

Lombardi's piece is a reminder that the shoe hasn't dropped on Jim Zorn's promotion to Redskins head coach. The roster has been remarkably stable for now. As a kiss is not a promise, roster stability now is not certain under Zorn.

We don't know yet which players will be high contributors. We don't know which practice squad cadets have a real shot at the roster. We don't know which assistants will be retained after '08. Heck, we don't really know if Jason Campbell, brought here to run a Gibbs' offense, will excel in Jim Zorn's west coast offense. We think he will, but does Zorn really back Campbell? When Zorn says he backs Campbell, does he mean it the way Joe Gibbs supported Mark Brunell, or Patrick Ramsey?

A lot of questions will be answered over the season, but Lombardi's post is a reminder that big changes are sure to come to the Redskins and not just because of an uncapped year. As Zorn makes those calls, Vinny Cerrato could be busy getting any kind of value for them by trades.

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"He has been in on a seven-on-seven situation and he's starting to come around," Zorn said. "Really, I'm encouraged with Colt. He's doing a great job."

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The start of the fall of "Soup" and the rise of the next skins QB - Brennan.

Posted by: The Barbarian | June 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm all blogged out...

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 5:47 PM

Well, with good reason. That was an enormous output from an inanimate terra cotta figurine. And very high quality, too. A lot of it sounded more animate than inanimate.

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Great News, like such as. I can make it to U.S. America for the Shabingus.

Posted by: MsTeenSouthCarolina | June 4, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Eh, can somebody tell me where DC is, on the U.S. Americans maps, like such as?

Posted by: MsTeenSouthCarolina | June 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse


Watchin' Zorn on his pressers--man I'm impressed with the dude as a human. Sure hope he can coach.

Media has to love the guy. Accessable, not smartass. Answers even the dumb questions, confident yet self-deprecating.

Posted by: Corkczar | June 4, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Crazy question but is Reche Caldwell still with the Skins? I thought not but just saw a shot of the players leaving the practice field and Santana was walking with a guy who looks just like Caldwell.

Posted by: Lisa | June 4, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Eagles cornerback Lito Sheppard skipped the team's voluntary workout on Tuesday amid dissatisfaction with his contract and uncertainty about his role on the team.

Sheppard, a two-time Pro Bowler, lost his starting position at left cornerback when the team signed free agent Asante Samuel, who agreed to a six-year, $57 million deal in the offseason.

Sheppard is also unhappy with the five-year contract extension he signed in 2004, well before he was eligible for free agency.

Philadelphia coach Andy Reid had little to say about Sheppard.

"That's his decision," Reid said. "He's not here. My focus is on the guys who are here."

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Steve Young described the WCO offense as a dance, it is about footwork.
....
When Mike Martz talks about altering the mechanics of the 49ers' quarterbacks, he's not referring to their arms. He's talking about their feet.
The new offensive coordinator - former ringmaster of "The Greatest Show on Turf" with the St. Louis Rams - might as well be called Dr. Scholl for his concentration on their soles.
At the 49ers' current offseason team practices and throughout the offseason, he'll be a stickler for proper footwork.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell is def gone. Signed with the Rams and he can see Ashburn from where he is.

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/reche_caldwell_insane_1_1.jpg

Posted by: cdubb | June 4, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

LaMont Jordan was locked out of the Raiders' practice Tuesday.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Asked if receiver Arnaz Battle was hurting himself by staying home from the workouts, coach Mike Nolan said, "Next question." But the club can't be happy about his unexplained absence, considering the installation of the new offense.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

what happened to UDFA deVan ? the guy out of oregon state ? i thought he was a true center ? is he not on the roster and participating ?

Posted by: shally | June 4, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Also, how can people be seeing Colt Brennan already as a threat to JC. The dude posted big numbers against inferior competition. So did Timmy Chang at Hawaii. He looked awfully small and terrible against Georgia in their bowl game. I hope he pans out as a decent backup but if you wanna crown him than crown his a*s...but I'm skeptical.

Posted by: cdubb | June 4, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Just keep the Shawn Springs thing in perspective. Lito Sheppard, Arnaz Battle, LaMont Jordan ... all bigger problems than Shawn.

Overall, the Skins have a really good situation since their veterans have a lot of self respect.

Credit Gibbs and the 'character' approach. Gibbs had his problems on the sidelines, but he knew how to lead.

Zorn is getting the benefit of a very good group in his first year as a HC. By not bringing in FA or trading for big names, the Spaghetti Gang has given a stable environment to Zorn. Whether that was the plan, I have my doubts. But it should make a significant difference.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | June 4, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks,cdubb....guess we have another player who strongly resembles Caldwell.

Zorn seems like a truly great guy...sure hope he (and the team) have a good season.

Posted by: Lisa | June 4, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Thanks,cdubb....guess we have another player who strongly resembles Caldwell.

Posted by: Lisa | June 4, 2008 7:47 PM

The only one out there who resembled Caldwell was Vinnie with those eyes.

Don't you remember that we offered Caldwell a one-year deal at the minimum and he turned it down for a one year deal at the minimum with the Rams?

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 4, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

So why is it the NHL?
Shouldn't it be the IHL, given there are Canadian teams?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I *heart* Jim Zen.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I am with the minority here in regards to Colt B. Coach Zorn, who knows more about QBs pulled hard for this guy...I watched him play many games and this kid has got some talent...many on here feel the JC has to prove something this year...I for one think that Colt may be the future QB of the Skins...fast release, smart, and mobile...perfect for the new WC offense...

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 4, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Agreed Curz, agreed.

Brennan is one to watch over the next couple of seasons.

When Coach Zen talks about the kid, you can tell he thinks highly of him.

Posted by: Chia Pet | June 4, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Chia, enjoyed your posts today. Nice to see someone moved you to the keyboard so that you could share your thoughts w/us.

The other person I am on the bandwagon for is Zorn...may have my eggs in one basket that may not make it, but I have a feeling about him...

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 4, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Come on, guys, there are lots of guys who could be the future QB of the Skins. But Soup is our QB right now. There is no QB controversy. And if there were, it would be between Campbell and Collins due to the way Collins subbed in last season. But there isn't!

I'm sticking with Soup.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

I am with you rooting for Soup this year Nate, but I don't think that Colt is the wasted pick many believe. I truly hope that JC does everything that has been projected of him and want to see him succeed. But as has been shown by many coaches, the seem to bring in their own QB.

If JC does well this year, starting CB would only put our offense back a couple of steps, so I am i support of JC.

At the same time, I was a Colt supporter from before the draft.

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 5, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

(was going to try and channel our man Old School and say something about the two critical positions being head coach and QB, and we've got questions about both... and maybe toss in a thing about rooting for the uniform, and how the one thing we can be sure of is that a lot of the dudes participating in these OTAs won't be wearing the maroon and black next spring, even fewer of them the following year, and so on...

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I mean starting QB...

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

where has Old School been, I luv that dude!

Posted by: chris larry | June 5, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Nate, got your point about San Francisco weather in December, I'm making it a goal.

Posted by: kost52 | June 5, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya, Curz. Aside from my Soup love, I just don't trust dudes who put up astronomical numbers in kooky college offenses. Andre Ware, David Klingler, Ty Detmer, Timmy Chang...

So I want this kid to prove something. And don't get me wrong, I wish him the best, because Todd Collins can't hold a clipboard forever, and I hate the thought of wasting our precious picks.

Though it does puzzle me that he didn't insist on playing for Indianapolis, purely from a nomenclature perspective.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

kost, I know I'm coming on like the San Francisco chamber of commerce, but it's unlikely I'll be in attendance at that game. But I do think lots of the RI peeps, especially the west coast/western states folks (Curzon?), will be there.

Hell, come visit us in Portland when you're here. A short flight from SF. We've got beer. Worth a stop, if I may say so myself.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I had a look at some dates and prices yesterday, so I'm going to make an effort to not go back to my lazy ways, and make a serious effort to save for such a trip, if I make progress in the next few months, I might just make it!

Posted by: kost52 | June 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

And I was joking about the weather... the thought of you winging a few thousand miles north from your antipodean coastal town and its delightful early summer weather to enjoy a bit of early winter San Franciscan drear is really funny, and the thought of you doing it for the Skins is really heartwarming. Just so you know.

-Nate in the PDX

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I had a look at some dates and prices yesterday, so I'm going to make an effort to not go back to my lazy ways, and make a serious effort to save for such a trip, if I make progress in the next few months, I might just make it!

Posted by: kost52 | June 5, 2008 1:15 AM

Kost, What's with this "save for such a trip"? You're Australian, mate. Give up the beer for a week and you'll have the money for a trip right there. Give it up two weeks and you'll have enough for the return. Of course, if you give up the beer for two weeks, you'll probably lose your citizenship and they won't let you back in the country.

If you'd started this two weeks ago, you'd already have saved enough to come to Nate's sumbangulous this Saturday (Sunday to you).

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 5, 2008 5:59 AM | Report abuse

Damn, my worst fears come true? SportsTalk 980 in the evil clutches of the Danny? Glad I'm not in town to see this...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 5, 2008 6:47 AM | Report abuse


what happened to UDFA deVan ? the guy out of oregon state ? i thought he was a true center ? is he not on the roster and participating ?

Posted by: shally | June 4, 2008 7:23 PM

I was wondering the same thing. Buges only mentioned Rinehart and Jansen playing backup center...

Posted by: Siris | June 5, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Damn, my worst fears come true? SportsTalk 980 in the evil clutches of the Danny?

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 5, 2008 6:47 AM

Brownie,

This is it? This is your worst fears? You rank this above, say, a kidney stone, a spinal tap, or a prostate biopsy? Above four more years of George Bush? Above seeing Hillary Clinton with no clothes on? Above Barno coming to your house and living with you for three years?

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 5, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Why three years? Just wondering...

Posted by: [cc] | June 5, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Some Redskin fans are pimping Colt Brennan. Jesus christ, first the guy is a rapist which isn't a positive, and second he's just a smug looking little guy.

I was rolling during the Sugar Bowl pregame last year as Fox showed highlights on Brennan's "spiritual journey" and his meditation methods and all that crap, then BAM, he got smacked in the face by the Dawgs and all was forgotten.

I'll donate a year's salary to the Buy The Danny More Media Fund if he ever sees the field in a regular season NFL game that is within 3 TD's.


Was it Tommy Chang that was Overrated Hawaii QB v1?

Posted by: Hizzle | June 5, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Some of my worst fears are:

Being homeless
Not being a great example as a father to my kids
Pizza cutter across my tongue
Spiders.

Just off the top of my head....

Oh and taking max-gain, and ending up like Red-boat.

Thats gotta hurt

Posted by: Greg | June 5, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

So could the whole Hawaii QB Colt/Timmy overrating thing properly be described as "Chooch and Chang"?

Posted by: Redcoat | June 5, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I believe RedBoat has now changed his name to "tripod" Greg.

Posted by: Redcoat | June 5, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Morroco and the Janitor >> Chooch & Chang

although Chooch & Chang had some very classic episodes, nothing holds up to the last episode of Morocco and the Janitor where they threw the Christmas party for all their friends.

Posted by: Hizzle | June 5, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Above Barno coming to your house and living with you for three years?

Posted by: talent evaluator | June 5, 2008 8:19 AM

So, I guess you don't consider me to be a Redskin Insider buddy. That hurts. I guess we won't be sharing hugs at the event this weekend.

Posted by: Barno | June 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

TE,

It was my worst fear of the day. Actually, my worst fear is that the group of anonymous posters will end up in a huge crowd down my street doing the Thriller dance toward me.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Hello?

Posted by: Dorf | June 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Is this thing on?

Posted by: Dorf | June 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

beep frickin beep

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I guess when "Zorn was exacerbated" he became more Zorn-like, more Zorn-ish - he was more Zorn than he had ever been before!

He became the Platonic Ideal of a Zorn - the Zorn of which people can only dream of and aspire to! He was XTREME-Zorn!

People standing nearby were said to have been surprised by how much of himself he was that day...

Posted by: Exacerbated in D.C.! | June 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Geisinger has now emerged as the back-up center...leaving Jansen at his natural and best position at RT...now they just have to keep getting the young Geisinger ready

Posted by: Jon Maury | June 13, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

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