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Arrington on Gibbs: Part II

Dan Steinberg revisits the whole LaVar Arrington-Joe Gibbs matter from last week, with Arrington, on Fox's "Best Damn Sports Show," explaining and clarifying his remarks.

By Cindy Boren  |  November 15, 2008; 9:20 PM ET
 
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I hope LaVar's treasonous comments mean we'll never be linking to this ever again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 15, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

getting worried smack about the game tomorrow?

Posted by: dealer1 | November 15, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Something tells me there will be a THIRD part of this saga... perhaps Coach Joe telling us that LaVar never "played his guts out."

Posted by: jwlemons | November 15, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Why is Lavar always around the Redskins? I'm sick of him...it's like he thinks he still hes a REdskin...So annoying

Posted by: rachel216 | November 15, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

But SMACK, if we couldn't use that link, we'd have to fall back on This One...

Posted by: daggar | November 15, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

U know what...F-LaVar! Gibbs = 3 Superbowl Rings. LaVar = overpriced, unreliable linebacker. Get over it already. You were talented but you simply we're not a team player. Thus you never met your expectations.

Posted by: Devo2 | November 15, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Can we please be done with this guy. I mean seriously. Never mind the fact that the core of this current "winning" team (Campbell, Portis, Moss, Cooley, Laron, Springs, Rogers, Smoot, Fletcher and Sean Taylor) were brought in under Gibbs' watch, never mind the fact the most successful part of the team this year (the running game) is Joe Gibbs' running game, and never mind the fact that in the 4 years that Gibbs was here we made the playoffs 50% of the time, which is 100% more times then the previous 10 years before he returned. Our 6-3 record this year is just as much a testament to Zorn as it is to Gibbs. Game management may have passed Gibbs by, but he could spot a real Redskin, and that you are not.

Lavar, you signed a contract you didn't read. You SIGNED it. Yet its somebody else's fault? Calling Gibbs a coward after how he handled the slaying of Sean Taylor and rallied the team to the playoffs? Go to bed would you please. Your second 15 minutes is up.

Posted by: nfr201 | November 15, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

LaVar = disgruntled athelete

That is because he didn't win anything. Went through 5 different def Coor.

But, he did get PAID HAMESOMELY while with the team. The highest paid defensive player during his time, actually.....

So, what's his beef? He should be upset he didn't win the team any Championships.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 15, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

4th - it's not just that he didn't win anything. It's that he feels he was underutilized and then screwed over with the contract. I can agree with both on one hand but at the same time agree with the coaches in that you have to do what you're assigned to do, not roam freely and miss assignments; and finally read the damn contract. Period.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | November 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Screw you, LaVar. This organization stuck by you after injury -- after injury---after injury,,,blah blah blah...

Just another case of "It's someone else's fault"

By the way...WHO CARES ABOUT LaVAR????


WE WANT DALLAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cej75024 | November 15, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I'm a former LaVar fan. Sorry, but when you slander Gibbs, might as well get the F out of town. Take the high road and let it go, LaVar. It's really sad because he was one of my favs.

Posted by: cosomfla | November 15, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

LaVar seems to have read the playbook the same way he read his contract = not at all lol
Phil

Posted by: philtvc65 | November 15, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

So...in the MIDDLE OF DALLAS WEEK...we have posts like...

* LaVar Arrington disses the Redskins
* There were a lot of Steelers fans at fedEx 2 weeks ago.
* Some "un-named NFL sources" would not have released Leogh Torrance for DeAngelo Hall.

Ummmmmm..can we get a rality check??

Posted by: cej75024 | November 15, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Contracts, playbooks, and
the mettle of Saint Joe Gibbs
Lavar's To-Read list

Posted by: daggar | November 15, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

sorry...REALITY

Posted by: cej75024 | November 15, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I was a lavar fan, but this is just plain sad...gibbs made this team who it is today. those playoff runs in 2005 and 2007 were legendary stuff. Not to mention, the man was an offensive innovator (Trips formation, H-back, multiple formations and motion before the snap, etc) and revolutionized the running game. Oh, and he has 3 SB wins.

I'm sad to say Lavar never had it in him to be a TRUE redskin. Too much me first, and not enough of the "team comes first" philosophy for my tastes...

Posted by: hailbg | November 15, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Somebody PLEASE MAKE THIS STOP!!!!! Cindy u r as bad as JLC. It's Dallas week and u idiots pick now to focus on (1) cutting a 4th CB (2) Lavar F-ing Arrington and (3) now ur lead sunday (game day) article is about former skins players criticizing the team.

U wear ur petty anti-redskin agendas on ur sleeves!!!! The Post just PLAIN SUCKS ASS!!!!

GROW UP WAPO JUST GROW THE FU*K UP!!!!!!!

HTTR

Posted by: PASkinsFan2 | November 15, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs had the courage to go home again and risk his reputation. We can argue about his success the second time around, but he has consistently displayed loyality and integrity in the face of adversity.

Levar will never understand courage or integrity. He crumbles when faced with adversity and criticizes others in an effort to disguise his inability to actually acommplish anything. Levar is trash!

Posted by: cabraman | November 15, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Per usual, the so-called "insider" blog is caught on the outside looking in, oblivious to the fact that it's Dallas week.

By the way, I'd appreciate another update on Leigh Torrence's whereabouts, please.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | November 15, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is:

Fuk LaVAR A.

and

Fuk the WaPo!!!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 16, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

LaVar is a PUNK. Who cares how big he is, who he took out, to dis the team he played for, he is a PUNK!!!

The WaPo is also a PUNK paper for running this on the eve of the cowgirls game. PUNK!!!

Who cares what beef they have with snyder, this is nothing but PUNK reporting!!!!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 16, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

LaVar is awesome for atleast one reason, that reason being he listens to TOOL.

F*ck Yeah.

Oh, and if Leigh Torrence lived out here in So-Cal the fires would put themselves out b/c they would be affraid of him.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 16, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Also, some posters need to get the sand out of their vaginas.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 16, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

What a despicable person Lavar is. "We appreciate you honesty". That dude sure doesn't know LA does he? LOL

Posted by: guymandude | November 16, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

smack & daggar, you circumnavigated the persistant negativity "up here."

that's the heart of the matter.

i hope I'M not home christmas.

win BIG tomorrow.

go skins!

Posted by: dwdjmu | November 16, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

LaVar, crawl back to the hole they pulled you out of. The Skins gave you that chance of a lifetime and you pissed it away. Okay Mama's boy, it may hurt that the Skins don't need you. But be a man and shut up, better yet grow up. Sean Taylor would tell you to go away and use your talents to sell popcorn or cotton candy at the FEDEX Stadium.

Posted by: raleighnative | November 16, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

come on guys, lavar arrington was tight
i respect lavar arrington for having the ability to actually articulate words and you know...form sentences?
joe gibbs was the man, don't get me wrong, but did you ever watch the guy speak?
it sucked, was the same 10 saying over and over again...at least whenever you get an interview from lavar, it's the truth, he is not a dumb guy, he's actually really smart
joe gibbs may have business sense, and he may be a relic of football knowledge, but he was as plain as a wheat thin
lavar was cool, he was on some crappy teams tho for sure

Posted by: Brian_P_McConnell | November 16, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Cindy,

Thanks for posting this. I wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't put it up here, and I'm glad to see what LaVar had to say which was basically "I don't like the Redskins." Not exactly news. I wish things could have turned out better for him -- he was a talented and charismatic athlete and man.

Barry's story this morning was also interesting, but I don't understand why it's the lead story in the sports section. It's more of an off-season type of feature article. Is there any news in it?

Terps knocked off UNC and you lead with "Ex-Redskins Make Waves on Airwaves"? This is basically the Post writing about radio and TV. It isn't sports -- put it in the style section.

If there is not a score, then it's not an article for the front page of the sports section. And here it looks like the only "score" is one that the Post is trying to settle with the Redskins.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 16, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Well, I was expecting far worse in the Arrington blurb. Was there a verbal commitment to sign for the amount that was not in the contract? We could all agree on a couple of points- Joe Gibbs 2.0 was not even close to what he once was, Joe Gibbs did not fight for Williams to be his successor. To call Joe a "coward" is an immflammatory choice of wording and a poor choice on Arrington's part. Arrington is a bitter man, having blown his career, and that shows in his current remarks, but he remains articulate and there are a few grains of truth in what he says. Did it need to come out during this time period? No, but that is more timing on Fox Sports than on the Washington Post. So effing the WaPo is just stupid; once it's out it is news, and it is WaPo's job to report news. There are other media sites, controlled by the team owner, that may not cover it if all you want to hear is pro Redskin's news. For myself, I prefer a site that is not intimidated by Snyder or owned by Snyder to be my source of news on the Redskins, because it is much more interesting to hear both sides of a story.

Posted by: driley | November 16, 2008 7:08 AM | Report abuse

*inflammatory

Too early to type coherently.

Posted by: driley | November 16, 2008 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone feeling extremeley nervous? For some reason, I'm not feeling very optimistic about this game, Cowboys are gonna come out firing, they need this game to save their season, I don't think we'll match their intensity..desperate teams are hard to beat

Posted by: rachel216 | November 16, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

So...in the MIDDLE OF DALLAS WEEK...we have posts like...

* LaVar Arrington disses the Redskins
* There were a lot of Steelers fans at fedEx 2 weeks ago.
* Some "un-named NFL sources" would not have released Leogh Torrance for DeAngelo Hall.

Ummmmmm..can we get a rality check??

Posted by: cej75024 |

I was thinking the same thing Ce. Lavar, Pitt from two weeks ago, half the week on Torrence. WTF!!! The Post been weak this week.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 16, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible to both a drinker of the Skins Kool-Aid(R) and a drinker of The Owner's Kool-Aid(R)?

See esp. the last line (the last word) from article about former Skins in media in today's WaPo:

"Their criticism is somewhat based in the fact that they still have a fondness for that uniform and that team," said Bruce Gilbert, the chief executive of Red Zebra Broadcasting, Snyder's media arm. "They really want them to win. They're harder on the player than that average Joe would be.

"To me, there's value in that. It creates -- at all times, 24/7 -- factual-based opinions that are polarizing. That is, after all, what we're trying to be: polarizing."

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Look, Arrington is just another under educated jock who still doesn't realize that he got an opportunity to make hugh amounts of money playing a game. Despite how a Redskin win or loss affects the mood of the fans for a few days, he finally got to a place where he was expected to perform without the pampering he got in college and probably high school where not every other person on the team was an "exceptional" athelete. The realization is that HE lost out, if getting millions for not producing is losing out, because HE didn't perform. The adage "Put Out or Shut Up" seems appropriate.

Posted by: sashef | November 16, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

I think what Arrington says maybe credible. Read between the lines with what Riggo says about Gibbs and watch his body language.

And how has Gibb's NASCAR team done since they were caught cheating? Huh. And He authorized it .

Gibbs used his holier than now I am a born again Christian persona as a cover. Poor Saint Joe.

His second time around as head coach of the Deadskins should force the HOF to remove his sorry Praise the Lord bust from Canton!

Saint Joe's second go round as head coach demonstrated that it was his GMs, players and coaching staff that were responsible for his success. And as a religious man he took all the credit!

Remember JKC could barely tolerate Gibbs and would have canned him except the staff started winning.

And no the Catholic church will not nominate Protestant scum like Gibbs for sainthood !


Posted by: omarthetentmaker | November 16, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

* Some "un-named NFL sources" would not have released Leogh Torrance for DeAngelo Hall.

Ummmmmm..can we get a rality check??

Posted by: cej75024 | November 15, 2008 10:46 PM

1. Rality check is in the mail.

2. The unnamed source (aka Ozzie Newsome) stuff was not about Hall for Torrence, but about Torrence rather than Tryon.

3. LaVar who? Oh yeah. Still, he looks like he's bulked up quite a bit since those gigs as Jordy on Star Trek, that guy on Reading Rainbow, and safeties coach Steve Jackson.

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

LaVar who? Oh yeah. Still, he looks like he's bulked up quite a bit ...

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 8:09 AM

It's not his fault -- just like everything else that went wrong in his life.

This is what happens when you own your own restaurant. Everything on the menu's free, plus the kiss-azz waiters bring you over-sized portions of fries and extra sour cream on the baked potato.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 16, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Clearly LaVar is not a Joe Gibbs type player. LaVar couldn't play in the system. Too much of a "me" for Gibbs. How many champioships did LaVar win? We got better when LaVar left. He should have opened his restaurant in NYC.

Posted by: fja711 | November 16, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

"Skins, Cowboys clash with much at stake" - This is the title of the lead article in the WASHINGTON TIMES sports section.

At least one paper in DC understands what Dallas Week means!!!!!

THANK YOU WASHINGTON TIMES, THANK YOU!!!

Posted by: PASkinsFan2 | November 16, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

At least one paper in DC understands what Dallas Week means!!!!!

Posted by: PASkinsFan2 | November 16, 2008 8:39 AM

Are we playing Dallas? I wish someone had told me!

I've got the Post sports section right in front of me, and the lead story is about Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker. Are they suiting up today? I guess I'm out of it because I can't really see the connection between this story and the real world.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

... over-sized portions of fries and extra sour cream on the baked potato.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 16, 2008 8:19 AM

Mmmmmm ... redundant potaaaaaato.

Personally, I'm down with that recent invention (seems like it occurred in my lifetime) called the "potato skin", which is not so much skin and potato flesh connected to the skin, covered with cheese and bacon, then re-baked and slathered with sour cream and green onion (mmm ... redundant dairy produuuuuucts). To top that in the potato category, you got move into fancying up mashed potato (like horseradish, carmelized onion, that stuff).

Last night, I found the new Night Rider more compelling viewing than the Boston College/Florida State game. It was majorly re-Hasselhoffed. Then at the commercials for Sunday night football, NBC (apparently "America's Network" now) made the WHOLE marketing of the game out to be Romo. After catching that one time too many (once was enough, at least for that bile taste), I'd switch back over to BC/FSU ... before I zoned out and switched back to Night Rider.

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Rality has a long established anti-Skins bias.
And what's with all the reporting going on up here? If JLC doesn't write up something on the Red Snapper's favorite breakfast cereal I will stop reading WAPO online for free!
(And TE, that last paragraph is a little forced don't you think?)

Posted by: mack1 | November 16, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

SMACK:

that's why I like you man, you're either way to much of a realist or you got a way twisted sense of humor, either way, keep it bro. . .

8K

Posted by: skinsfan8KaboveMSL | November 16, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Dear LaVar,

I truly hope you read this message and take it to heart. I think that you probably will, as you have nothing better to do on Sundays anymore. You were a fan favorite here. We loved you. You tarnish your memory with us when you let your bitterness take over your good sense and you blame Coach Gibbs for your own professional failings. You should have left your personal feelings in the past and moved on by now. But I think a part of you is so self-centered, you truly believe none of what happened could be your fault. As evidenced at Sean Taylor's funeral, on one of the saddest days in NFL history, you took to the dais and somehow thought it appropriate to make it about you. I'll never forget that. Please stop ruining my memory of you. I know I was one of the loudest fans cheering whenever your name was announced at Fed Ex field. Now I'm just sad for you.

Posted by: frannie825 | November 16, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Yeah right, he will read this.....pulheeeeze.

Posted by: chrislarry | November 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

LaVar is a complete dbag. King of biting on the bootleg pass and letting a TE run free for big gains. Thank God for Chris Samuels in that same draft. LaVar was barely a step above Courtney Brown. Both busts.

I have 2 signed jerseys. One is LaVar the other is CP. I paid more for the CP one as its a better quality jersey and was a more reputable seller on ebay. It is displayed proudly on my wall. My Lavar one sits in my closet. F him, he was a traitor taking the playbook to the gmen.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

nfr201: You are spot on! My only problem with your post is that you said EVERYTHING I wanted to say. :-)

I mean look, I think Zorn is awesome, but we should remember that this is a Joe Gibbs built team but with a healthy offensive line; last year they never had that luxury and still made the playoffs. I believe they would have had the same success with Gibbs at the helm.

Posted by: heyjoe728 | November 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

And thanks to the Wapo for giving us so many good articles on the day of the Redskins/Cowboys game.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 16, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Hannah Storm is hot...sorry it's Dallas week..I know i know

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

ENOUGH! It's Dallas week. Could we please get back to some football?

How about some analysis of the game? I'm tired of all this crap.

Posted by: frediefritz | November 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I have always been a big Fan of LA even though his career was short lived. With that said, he just lost alot of my respect as a fan. Although I was abit disappointed in Gibbs for not finishing out his contract, the man is far from being a coward. That was a cheap shot on a man who doesn't take cheap shots on anyone. Gibbs is more of a man than LA could ever hope to be. In addition I would have to say that LA isn't much of a business man because such a comment could alienate many would be redskin fan patrons from dining at his resturaunt. I actually thought LA was better than that.
This also shows how much LA knows about NASCAR Sprint Cup racing. $5 million/year is alot of money but in regards to Racing and financing a multi car team, $5 mill is not much at all. So, Beings how JG is no longer making that 5 mill/yr, his nascar team is gonna raidly tank. haha

On another note, with all due respect to JG, I am glad he left because I feel like we finally got the coach of the future.

Hail to JG, Long Live Zorn and To The Gutter With Lavarr!

Posted by: drumsalot | November 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

LaVar isn't too smart is he? first, he loses out on all that loot during the contract negotiation (err forgot to read the fine print)...and now by criticizing a bona fide legend he will probably undercut his regional business opportunities... I hope he has a backup plan, because he keeps costing himself more money every time he opens his mouth....so sad.

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | November 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

If he feels that strongly...maybe LaVar should remove any Redskins memorabilia out of his restaurant. I mean if this organization did him sooooo wrong, he should cut ALL ties.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Hannah Storn is STILL hot..so is Rachel Nichols

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I thought I'd click over to the WaPoo to read about tonight's Redskins-Cowgirls game.

Imagine my surprise.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I hope he has a backup plan, because he keeps costing himself more money every time he opens his mouth....so sad.

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | November 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

If he feels that strongly...maybe LaVar should remove any Redskins memorabilia out of his restaurant.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:32 AM

-------------------------------------------

That is his back-up plan: Take down the Redskins stuff and fill the bar with Eagles, Cowboys, Giants memorabilia. New name for the club: "LaVar Arrington's NFC Least." Home for haters. The In-Place for a lot of the odd ducks who post on this blog. And, probably, weekly meet-ups with Jasno.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 16, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I got more insight into today's game from Hank Goldberg !!


Hannah Storm remains hot

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrislarry | November 16, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

He's saying whatever he can to keep his name out there. He's trying to create a buzz around his new restraunt. After these comments The only fans who will go to his restraunt will be Cowboy fans.

Posted by: kcjdlj1 | November 16, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Gee...I wonder how Charlie Brown and Dave Butz feel about Joe Gibbs?? What's wrong with the Post?? How come we don't have this in-depth reporting? Of all the things going on today, why can't we hear from Mel Kaufman and Rich Milot??

sarcasm--sarcasm--sarcas

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

damn cej; i thought i was the only one who thought nichols was hot... not really her face or eyes... its the um.. mouth?

Posted by: Zeebs | November 16, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I think it is evident that the Washington Post needs a new sports editor.

Posted by: HDiniMFO | November 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Zeebs...it's the pouty way she says...

"Rachel Nichols...ESP - N"

sexy!

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, and when she opens her mouth. her lips kinda 'pop' open... all females should ignore what I am saying ;)

Posted by: Zeebs | November 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Real pleased to hear that Springs is playing. Slightly less so re: Jason Taylor (I'm in manlove with Demetric Evans), so maybe save Taylor till the second half after Dallas does the NFC East-style wearing down of the defensive line with the rush (to soften them up for the pass in the second quarter).

So. Springs healthy. Rogers healthy. Smoot healthy. Landry healthy. Horton healthy. Hall looking to get some time. Actually, screw it, let Dallas TRY to run the ball. Time for a beat down on Barber. Beware of Roy Williams (WR). He's due for a game. Like I said, its not Skins D v. Dallas O that worries me ...

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Witten also returns this week. Maybe time for a "strong" safety (aka strong danger) mid-body tackle, special delivery from Landry and/or Horton.

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

ifthethunderdontgetya, apparently, we'll have this and like it.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/2008/pdf/redskins_gameday_111608.pdf

p.s. thenthelightninwill

Posted by: dcsween | November 16, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

p.s. thenthelightninwill

meaning you can call him 'Will' for short.
Which is good, because even copy/pasting ifthethunderdontgetya uses up a lot of vowels...

Posted by: daggar | November 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, dcsween.

I think our defense overmatches the girls. Coming back to O, our problem with Pittsburgh is we got behind in the score, C.P. had a damaged knee, and they knew they could come after Campbell.

Skins win by taking care of the ball on O and kicking Romo, etc. to the curb.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Ok, Dauphine, I know the obligatory 8:00AM game day post can slide because of the later start time, but it's noon on Dallas gameday. Lavar has nothing to do with this day, unless you are 4th and need to get to a bar within walking distance because your TV is on the fritz.
So, new post please.

Posted by: daggar | November 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

ok, my plea did not work. I guess only a post from the Cork can help us now.

Posted by: daggar | November 16, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

To me Santana has to be big (like he has been against Dallas) tonight. If his hammy is OK, he'll running all over their secondary per usual. That will afford Ladell some room to run, Cooley will get more favorable matchups on LB's, etc. He is so big for getting JC in his zone. Cmon 89, we really need you tonight!!!

HAIL

p.s. Run Ladell, run...rest CP, rest

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 16, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

RIP Jerry.

The Skins are on a bye this week again right?

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 16, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wow, a lot of good points here. Not a Redskins fan but certainly follow football.

1. On Arrington .. can't please all the people. Let's see if he'll take a shot at Danny in public.

2. On Gibbs .. many good points I'd passed over. The fact he risked his legacy to come back and did make the playoffs and did transition the team (right on Campbell, handled Taylor just right, and, apparenlty, had the goods on Arrington(!)). But one thing I never got about Gibbs, unrelated to Arrington, was why when he said he was leaving for his family he went right back into racing full time. I know he works with his sons but he seems to give it the same commitment as football. Did seem he looked around football and simply said I'm tired of this.

3. Bonus points. When is John Salley going to be a top tier job? I've watched the guy for years and he's one of the most empathetic yet honest sportscasters around. Regardless of the sport. I watched the summer Olympics with the increasingly miserable Costas and others and wondered when they'd ever get a clue and hire folks who understood athletes. I recall Costas in a prior winter Olympics interviewing one of our female skaters after she had blown it and he asked her about whether she liked another male skater (rumor mill). The woman was devastated. Salley would have been golden there. Just sayin.

Posted by: tslats | November 16, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Hannah Storm is hot...sorry it's Dallas week..I know i know

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:19 AM


No, she'd be hot if she weighed more than 15 pounds.

Damn, eat some food every once in a while lady.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 16, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone wanna talk about this game that's tonight?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 16, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Hannah Storm is hot...sorry it's Dallas week..I know i know

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 10:19 AM


No, she'd be hot if she weighed more than 15 pounds.

Damn, eat some food every once in a while lady.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 16, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse


To each his own, Poopy !

(I can't believe I called a man Poopy !?!...much respect !)

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Is it morally wrong to hope Rocky McIntosh nails Romo on that hand ??

Well, even if it is...I am hoping for it.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 16, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

First of all...Hannah Storm is not hot...

To me the biggest key to the game is the health of Santana Moss.

Also...and I'm not saying this because I'm a homer, I don't think there is any way the Cowboys win tonight...you've got Sean Taylor's induction, a healthy defense, a guilt-ridden home crowd off the Steelers loss.

I think we win this game.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Ricky,

The Sean Taylor /Ring of Fame induction is not this week. It will be at the Giants' game.

Posted by: tafka | November 16, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. good morning.

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 16, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

And good afternoon to you, Ms. Boren.

Posted by: tafka | November 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm visualizing turnover machine Romo giving up 6.

Or more.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Arrington has a much higher opinion of his talent than he ever showed on the field. Fierce hitter? Absolutely. Free-lancer, ignoring the defense called? More often than necessary.

And worst of all, he balanced every amazing play with an astonishingly stupid late hit or unsportsmanlike penalty. How many times was a great play - a sack or and bone-shattering hit - followed shortly by a 15-yard penalty? Most undisciplined Redskin I've ever seen - something Joe Gibbs tolerated from nobody.

Gibbs sent Arrington packing for one reason: his skills had diminished to the point where he could no longer play effectively, and became too expensive. What did Arrington do after he left? Absolutely nothing - nothing at all.

The Redskins picked Arrington #2 and Chris Samuels #3 in the 2000 NFL draft. 1 out of 2 ain't bad.

And come on - how petty? Gibbs returned to coaching to make money for his racing team? You mean the racing team that sponsors are lining up to give money to? THAT racing team? Too bad Lavar never took any logic courses at Penn State.

And yes, Gibbs did say he was going to return to his family and is spending a lot of time with the racing team...which is owned and operated by his family - but his role doesn't require anything close to the time commitment coaching the Redskins required. He isn't running the racing team, and isn't spending nights sleeping on a couch in the garage. I don't see a contradiction there.

Posted by: kemp13 | November 16, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

TENT MAKER,

It's pretty rough to question Gibbs spirituality. He's a good man. His NASCAR cheating wasn't due to GIBBS saying, "Hey gang, let's Cheat". It's like a receiver getting caught w/ "stick em" on his hands. Not to mention "full time" in NASCAR as President doesn't require 18-20 hr days. He "smoozes" sponsors etc,... that doesn't require the same time. You better check yo'self TENT. A little bit over the line!!

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Arrington is simply echoing the things that are *obvious* except to fans blinded by the hype of Joe Gibbs. The team stunk, the fans were revolting, so they brought back a legend to keep the fans interested. If they won, so much the better, but that was hardly the point.

IMHO, Gibbs came back for two reasons:

1) He was offered a lot of money
2) His ego told him that if the other "old" coaches were making a comeback and winning than he could too.

Love or hate Arrington, he's at least willing to be honest. Joe Gibbs is rarely honest in public. Instead we get the phoney-baloney "Jesus made me do it" nonsense.

Thank LaVar for your willing to speak your mind. Great stuff.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | November 16, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

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