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As the running game turns

If he suffers no further post-concussion symptoms, Clinton Portis will be the Redskins' starting running back, Jim Zorn said Monday. He wasn't, however, certain when he'd make a final decision about Portis's status, Rick Maese writes, and if Ladell Betts gets the majority of the practice plays this week, he'll likely start a second straight game.

"I don't think it would be prudent to say [Portis] is going to be ready on Sunday if he can't run hard and work through the practice week," Zorn said.

Tracee Hamilton takes stock of the situation.

Rookie of the week

Brian Orakpo is a finalist for rookie of the week in fan voting at nfl.com. He's up against Eagles WR Jeremy Maclin, Packers linebacker Clay Matthews, Bengals running back Bernard Scott and Cardinals running back Beanie Wells.

The view from Dallas

Randy Galloway of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram writes that the Cowboys' offense is back to square one after the loss to Green Bay. ... Guess who else has a lack of depth on the offensive line?

By Cindy Boren  |  November 17, 2009; 10:48 AM ET
 
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Not interested in being first...just the best.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 17, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

piss on the cowgirls and their redneck bandwagon d-bag fans!!!
Go Skins!!!

Posted by: jonthefisherman | November 17, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

He's a 6'1, long-armed corner who can hit like a safety, is as athletic as any corner you'll see in this league, and has shown in the past that he has the ability to be an elite cover guy

Who?? Who is this you're speaking of PSP?? Elite cover guys don't bite on the same move 5 years running...

Decisions and Jim Zorn = oil/water

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Does anybody know where I could watch this Sunday game in Rome, Italy?

Thanks a lot.

Posted by: thor2 | November 17, 2009 10:40 AM

Off the top of my head, I'd say try the Vatican, Coliseum, Pantheon, Spanish Steps, or Trevi Fountain.
Now, you're absolutely guaranteed to not find the Skins game at any of these places.
Which is my circular way of saying, "Dude, you're in friggin' Rome, and you're worrying about watching a Redskins game?!"

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4-12,

I've been there a couple of times so I don't care much about the places you mentioned and it's Dallas week, I can't miss it.

mhartz1,

Their website says they have between 2 and 4 games on.

Posted by: thor2 | November 17, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

One more win towards my fifth of Remy.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 17, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

"Elite cover guys don't bite on the same move 5 years running..."

Tell that to Terence Newman, Sheldon Brown, or Al Harris, who all get beat at least a couple times per season on double moves.

Fine, he's not 'elite' (if elite is meant to mean Bailey/Asomugha-esque, of which there are maybe 3 corners of their caliber), but he's definitely shown he can be upper-echelon if he wants to be.

Posted by: psps23 | November 17, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

psp, he was upper echelon for what 8 games last year, then he either stopped caring, or whatever, but 8 games over the course of 5 years.....really??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If Portis can't practice due to concussion symptoms or other ailments then he shouldn't be playing. Enough with this nonsense. Let him get healthy and maybe he'll get back to the type of RB he can be later in the season. Betts and Cartwright showed they can hold down the fort while he's out.

Posted by: skinswest | November 17, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Double move has all of the tools to be an elite corner and has played at a very high level in spurts in the past.

He has also has cinder blocks for hands a fragile psyche.

He will be somewhere else next year and both he and the Redskins will be better off.

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 17, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Thing with Rogers is that he bites on every double move -- all the time.

The only time he doesn't get exposed is when he has safety help, or when they're playing zone.

But anytime a starting CB says: "It was a double move, I couldn't do anything about it" is just unacceptable speak from a starting NFL corner.

How about learning hos to defend it, Carlos? Play with a wider base, try and not be flat-footed... SOMETHING other than his same ol' tired excuse!

Posted by: RedDMV | November 17, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Starting right tackle Marc Colombo had surgery on his injured left ankle Monday. He also has a broken left fibula. Starting free safety Ken Hamlin has a high ankle sprain that will keep him sidelined two to four weeks

Redskins need to attack that RT spot, overload it on passing downs....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"Elite cover guys don't bite on the same move 5 years running..."


Folks wouldn't hate on Carlos Rogers if he had INTs--and some occasional pick 6s--to back up his beefing.

But he doesn't, and so, they do.

If I'm him, I shut people up by shutting down Miles Austin or Patrick Crayton this week.

Otherwise, he needs to shut up.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 17, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Zoron needs to be punted back to seatle, why is he still the HC?

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

this voting thingy is not working right. If you add all the response percentages it'll be less than 100%

Posted by: thor2 | November 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

red, good point, and the answer is that Rogers doesn't put in the time, either watching film, or in front of a jugs machine......if he did watch film, he'd have made some progress....but its lather rinse repeat....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

For some reason I have a really good feeling about Sunday...the only thing that worries me is our D's propensity to give up the big play.

If we can contain Austin / Crayton / Witten and run the ball like we did last week, I actually think we've got a good chance of winning...

Perhaps I am drunk on Kool-Aid again, which would be kind of sad since it's only 11:30am...

Posted by: mattylight | November 17, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Love how wade philips is cry about how the refs made mistakes that allowed GB to kick a field goal, all the while his O was shut out until garbage time.

F dallas, bunch of crybabies.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 17, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Are you not satisfied with 7 sacks in 9 games from a rookie who's only going to get better?

Posted by: psps23 | November 17, 2009 10:53 AM


It's not that...I just get irked when people say 'Rak is too small to play DE or is going to somehow get manhandled in the run game when he was a man-child in college. That's just insane.

All I'm saying is if he's having more impact at DE, why not keep him there?

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

this voting thingy is not working right. If you add all the response percentages it'll be less than 100%

Posted by: thor2 | November 17, 2009 11:22 AM

That's because they are rounding the percentages. They would need decemel places for it to add up too 100%.

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 17, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Zoron needs to be punted back to seatle, why is he still the HC?

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

There are a bunch of reasons. Off the top of my head:

1) Danny has already burned through so many other coaches qualified candidates will no longer accept the job.

2) Danny has to pay him if he fires him. He is probably trying to do to him what al davis did to Kiffen. He wants to emasculate him to the point where he can either get him to quit or have him do something that will allow him to be fired for cause.

3) You don't fire coaches mid season unless you're a moron.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 17, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

... and the answer is that Rogers doesn't put in the time, either watching film, or in front of a jugs machine ...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:23 AM

You know this how?

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Redskins playing time vs. Broncos By Ryan O'Halloran on Nov. 17, 2009 into Redskins 360

Here are the snap count totals for the Redskins against Denver.

DEFENSE (58 snaps)

DL: Kedric Golston 24, Lorenzo Alexander 6, Jeremy Jarmon 9, Albert Haynesworth 43, Phillip Daniels 28, Cornelius Griffin 39, Andre Carter 56.

LB: Rocky McIntosh 57, London Fletcher 58, Brian Orakpo 52, Chris Wilson 6.

DB: Justin Tryon 27, Carlos Rogers 4, DeAngelo Hall 58, Fred Smoot 54, LaRon Landry 58, Reed Doughty 56, Kareem Moore 3.

Analysis: Rogers was benched after the first series and Smoot saw his most action of the year. He had played 61 snaps in the first eight games combined. ... Tryon has played 23 or more snaps in each of the last four games. ... Doughty missed two plays because of an elbow injury. ... Only five players -- Nos. 52, 59, 23, 27 and 30 -- played the entire 17-play drive at the end of the first half. ... The Redskins used a three-man defensive line on seven snaps.

OFFENSE (70 snaps)

RB: Rock Cartwright 21, Quinton Ganther 5, Mike Sellers 41, Ladell Betts 43.

TE: Fred Davis 52, Todd Yoder 6.

WR: Devin Thomas 47, Malcolm Kelly 21, Antwaan Randle El 37, Marko Mitchell 11, Santana Moss 63.

Others (fake field goal): Shaun Suisham 1, Lorenzo Alexander 1.

Analysis: Sellers played almost exclusively as the second or only tight end. ... Cartwright played at least one snap on nine of the 10 possessions. ... On Denver's three sacks of Jason Campbell, the Broncos rushed 4 (against 5), 6 (against 6) and 6 (against 7).

SPECIAL TEAMS

KC: Suisham, Moore, Westbrook, Cartwright, Doughty, Alexander, Sellers, Wilson, Tryon, Holmes.

KR: Cartwright, Betts, Yoder, Alexander, Sellers, Wilson, McIntosh, Holmes, Blades, Ganther, Moore.

PC: Smith, Albright, Thomas, Cartwright, Doughty, Moore, Yoder, Blades, Tryon, Sellers, Westbrook.

PR: Moss/Randle El, Thomas, Westbrook, Tryon, Alexander, Cartwright, Wilson, Jarmon, Blades, Moore. (one missing).

Analysis: Lendy Holmes was elevated to the practice squad and played on special teams in his NFL debut. Ganther played for the first time this year. ... On one punt, Randle El didn't catch it and Denver got a 24-yard roll. ... Hunter Smith's hang times -- 4.75, 4.28, 4.74, 4.72 seconds.

-- Ryan O'Halloran

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 17, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

On the offensive line: just noticed that Scout.com now has five (count them, five) OTs going in the first round of the next draft. Russell Okung of Okla State is the only top five pick on their list, but Trent Williams of Oklahoma, Charles Brown of USC, Brian Bulaga of Iowa, and Anthony Davis of Rutgers are supposedly slotted between 15 and 32...

Where's the draft class looking particularly strong? Defensive linemen (wouldn't you know it?). Gerald McCoy of Oklahoma and Suh of Nebrasks lead the way, but Scout has 8 listed in Round 1. The surprise to me was 4 possible first-rounders at Safety (not just Berry and Mays). In fact, Mays has slipped below a kid from Texas.

At QB, they're projecting Jake Locker goes ahead of Bradford and Clausen. Personally, I take Clausen if there's a choice.

Anyway, the hype machine is just getting going.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 17, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

If Rogers ever made a pick or had ever capitalized on they 3700 pick 6 opportunities he's dropped he'd be fine. But he has the worst hands in the league and repeatedly falls for the same moves. There is no downside to throwing at him, he can't make you pay for a mistake. That isn't an elite corner, its not even close.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 17, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

dc, are you kidding me?? He's making the same mistakes he made since being drafted, does that say that he's putting in the time to you?? Does that say he's in the film room, in front of the jugs machine on a regular basis, or does that say that he's been sittin on his laurels....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

honk honk

Posted by: mattylight | November 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Is it not a sunny day where you people are? Why fixate on Rogers ... or Zorn ... or Portis ... or Landry ... the Skins just won a gall damb game against a team with a winning record. Its only Tuesday and there was a ton of great stuff that happened ... Skins have a running game again (and a starting back who actually practices with the line during the week). Devin Thomas had a HUGE day. Lorenzo Alexander (coming on a rotation) forced a fumble and tackled the molars out of a kick returner. Rock Cartwright actually got two first downs ... and the Skins actually had SEVERAL third and short situations. Does complaining actually help you through your day? Wins by the Skins are going to be hard to come by this season ... why not enjoy the ones that actually happen? I'm not just talking about winning by one point (and booing), I'm talking about the Skins offense breaking the 17 point ceiling, stopping a running game, and having an offensive line that finally resembles professional athletes!

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Proof positive that practicing hard all year pays off is one Levi Jones oh no wait, I mean Quentin Ganther, hold on. Proof positive that practicing hard and keeping your body finely tuned pays off is Hunter Smi.. WAIT A SECOND!

Carlos Rodgers???

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 17, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

On that OL post, the kid from VT - Sergio Render is pretty good and would be a nice late round pick up. Big kid, mean and good with running and passing game.

Posted by: mhartz1 | November 17, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

My feelings on what I want to see this week can be summed up as

http://www.facebook.com//photo.php?pid=3080245&id=529092333

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

3) You don't fire coaches mid season unless you're a moron.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17
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I'd add the caveat that if you hamstring your head coach so he cannot do his job, then firing him mid-season is the right thing to do. Of course, you shouldn't villify your head coach in the beginning, but that, too, would the work of a moron.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 17, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

54% of you think Washington is going to win? In Dallas? You're high!

Geez. They beat the one team in the NFL that has a worse backup quarterback than the Skins, that guy ends up having to play an entire half, and embarrasses himself even more than Jason Campbell has this year. Now, all of the sudden, you guys think Washington has a real NFL team?

Folks, celebrate the win. Absolutely. Celebrate like you were Lions fans who finally won a game. Because that is pretty much what happened. But also act like Lions fans -- which is to say don't expect another anytime soon; certainly not this week... or next week... or the week after that... etc... etc...

Kevin Olson
Manassas, VA

Posted by: noslok | November 17, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I love how everybody wants Betts to be the savior to the season. More proof that people here are kneejerk numbnuts. Clinton Portis was playing behind the worst of offensive lines prior to his concussion. Now the line has been reshuffled, we have Levi Jones, and we were up against one of the league's smaller d-lines. But let's not talk about any of that. Let's just call for Portis' head, just like Zorn's, just like Snyder's, just like Cerrato's, just like Campbell's, just like Roger's, just like Landry's, just like Hall's, just like ARE's, just like Sellers'. Every week certain people on here go from one "fix it" strategy" to another. Just admit you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and go back to ROOTING for the Redskins.

I know it's a frustrating season, but for fux sake, stop with nonstop negativity and get ready for Dallas. Or do you actually want them to win?

Posted by: KellRawLive | November 17, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Olson, Yeah, the Cowpies looked like world beaters against The Packers who have a terrible Oline. Dallas is extremely over rated.

Posted by: VegasJim | November 17, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Dallas is not a very good team. But they will devour the skins this weekend.

Posted by: funkey | November 17, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Funkey, Isn't there a Dallas site where you could post? F Dallas.

Posted by: VegasJim | November 17, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I'm real happy about skins finally winning this week. But hearing zoron talk on the radio and on tv makes me want to choke him... he's doing a wicked good job as a HC.


Dallas favored by 11pts. this sunday? we'll see. I can picture a game like last night mnf purple camou vs. doo doo brown. 2-3 plays that will decide the winner, no blowouts, dallas cowsh1t not that good. They are a streaky team like carolina, beatable!

Posted by: bhoang888 | November 17, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

kevin olson writes:

54% of you think Washington is going to win? In Dallas? You're high!

kevin, even though last year is gone, i do recall that dallas started off looking like world beaters at the beginning of the season and when the redskins went to texas stadium, noone and i mean noone except the skins fans believed we could win. in the end, we closed down texas stadium w/ a victory over the cowboys. the cowboys indeed do have weapons. if our defense can maintain, there's no reason we can't beat them again. what? you think just because they got a billion dollar stadium that they're a better team all of a sudden. as someone replied, green bay's o line is just as porous as ours but guess what? they dominated the cowboys. so if the skins win, are you gonna post some bullshyt like "i knew they could do it..."? as for you, kellrawlive, asking for betts to take over isn't a fix it gimmick. betts practices w/ the o line and they understand his tendencies and he understands theirs as well. he hits the holes assertively whereas portis, who doesn't practice reacts slower to attacking the point. i've been critical of the o line play but they aren't just magically playing better for betts and cartwright that for portis. i luv portis but i luv any running back who'll do what's right for the sake of the team. practice together..win/lose together. as for denver's d line. they're smaller but they're also one of the leagues best. right behind the skins at 6th place. elvis dumervil leads the league in sacks so you can't discount denver's league due to their size.

Posted by: charronegro1971 | November 17, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Dallas' best chance is to run the ball... they should do their best Atlanta impersonation.

I mean, I hate Dallas as much as the next guy, but that's what I see.

For the Redskins, game plan should be to beat Dallas in their faces, injure Romeo, and TACKLE. Correctly. Consistently.

Oh, and I almost forgot! Bring TomKat along.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 17, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The play is to punching of the Dallas Cwoboys into their baby faces with the clenched fist with great force.

Then, when they have become sleeping, ripping of the uniforms of the Dallas Cowgirls and placing them in a line in the center of field... While kicking the Dallas butts using the cleats designed for the most wet and soggy conditions.

When the little baby Jessica simpson lover the Tony Romeo starting to cry his head, we take the heavyset coach and smother hand-clapping owner who resemble the Freddy Cruger with him, smaching the air from his Dallas lungs until he can no longer breath the air. Is so smothering because the Dallas coach has weight problem, yes?

Ha Ha Ha Ha HAAAAA!

Take that, you Texans! DAllSa, NO gooOD!

We are hating you so much right now.!

OK?! HA HA HA HA HAHa HA hA!!!!!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 17, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

OH, Yes, and one more fact I almost forget to say:

Dallas SUCK!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 17, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Right, BeamtimeGreg? You know it is acutally DALLAS the one that we feel is so SUCK!

WE WANT THE DALLAS!

WE WANT THE DALLAS!

WE WENT THE DALLAS!

We are hoping that large tragedy befall the Dallas before Sunday and cause distraction from cowboy's focusing and lead to Redskin VICTORY IN DALLAS SO MUCH!!!

HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 17, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

AMEN to charronegro1971. I love how you think!!
BTW DALLAS SUCKS!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | November 17, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

VegasJim - i am content posting here.

Posted by: funkey | November 18, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

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