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1 TCCL - My pubcrawl ineptitude. Our bathroom was getting re-done and I had to be around the house a lot this week even with my girls out of town. We will definitely do this at some point, though.

2 TCCL - Carlos Rogers. I hope he's spending extra time working with the JUGGS gun. He knows as well as anyone that he has to hold on to those near-interceptions.

3 TCCL - Monday press conferences. Eerily predictable.

4 TCCL - The Sports Reporters. A good time was had by all, no?

4 TCCL - Red Dog beer. Just because.

4 TCCL - Blog Flirting. Creepy, very creepy, especially on a football website. Yet oddly compelling. If we can bring you zany lovers together, and dissect free-agent punters at the same time, I say let's do it.

4 TCCL - T.J. Duckett. Seems like a classy dude and a great teammate. The most talked about consistently inactive/unused Redskin ever?

5 TCCL - Nick Novak. Well the names have all changed since you kicked around, But those dreams have remained and they're turned around.
Who'd have thought they'd need ya?

5 TCCL - The Sports Bog. I heard you finally got more than 2 comments on an entry. Way to go, kid. You'll get the hang of this yet. I'd go easy on the cheese references, but that's just me (kidding, kidding).

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 13, 2006; 9:00 AM ET
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(HaikuMan is busy throwing up in his mouth over the blog flirting TCCLs, so LimerickMan will make another guest appearance.)

Blog poems have been posted
(Quite well, he's smugly boasted.)
A free agent I am
But a stick I will ram
Thru my eye if my love life's this roasted.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 12, 2006 9:49 PM | Report abuse

4 TCCL - Blog Flirting. Creepy, very creepy,

As long as there is no blog groping, though we may have to hold HaikuMan back from MVDame--blog lust ya know.

And about TJ Wastebucket--let's hope we don't see him on the other side of the ball next year running with hate&anger ala A.Pierce; then again, if we're seeing him run for us then that means Portis is down-and-out.

The SportsBog: Meh. He's just an aggregator, why would anyone post comments? Get him a blogging for dummies book or something of that sort.

Posted by: Megskin | October 12, 2006 10:08 PM | Report abuse

MR. Rogers, aka hands-like-feet, needs to put some serious stickum on his gloves. guy has the worst case of hands-like-feet that the world has ever seen. They say that high school coaches make recievers who can't catch into cornerbacks. I guess that must have been the case for him. Seriously, how many times is this guy gonna drop the easy pick before someone begins to wonder if his hands-like-feet can be fixed by some sort of surgery?

disclaimer: he did have a money pick to save the philly game last year, but ever since then has had more balls slip thru his fingers than (insert perverted joke here).

Posted by: Barno | October 12, 2006 10:58 PM | Report abuse

In a desparate attempt to salvage some dignity, I turn to the Czeban tactic of changing the subject. I will also do something generally frowned upon to distract the Blog -- I present some actually research and analysis. (All figured from I actually worked less than 12 hours today, so I am unwinding.

I think the Blog can agree on 2 points:
1) The Skins' STRENGTH is a hard-nose running game focused around Portis.
2) The Skins' WEAKNESS is its secondary, specifically giving up the long ball.

If true, than the key statistics to look at are the Skins' opponents' Rush defense (yards per game and average yards given up per run) and their Pass Offense (pass yards per game and passing TDs, since the NFL doesn't provide rankings on pass yards per completion.)

Also, Springs return should boost secondary and the Skins strength is the exact way to mitigate their weak passing defense: rush, rush, rush to win time of possession and keep their offense off the field.

Below is the Skins remaining schedule with relevant stats. (All current thru week 5.)
TEAM (record)
Rush D. Rank (Rush yds/game;ave rush/carry)
Pass O. Rank (Pass yds/game;total pass TDs)

vs TITANS (0-5)
D: 32 (172.4, 4.7); O: 27 (174.6, 3)
*Rookie QB*

at COLTS (5-0)
D: 31 (166.8, 5.2); O: 5 (245.8, 8)
*Peyton deadly; wins against weak teams)

vs COWBOYS (2-2)
D: 5 (75.2, 3.1); O: 12 (204.2, 5)
*Bye week to prep*

at EAGLES (4-1)
D: 16 (104.8, 3.7); O: 1 (303.8, 11)
*Tough game; McNabb will kill w/o pressure*

at BUCS (0-4)
D: 30 (163.2, 5.0); O: 19 (197.8, 3)
*Rookie QB*

vs PANTHERS (3-2)
D: 21 (122.0, 4.0); O: 25 (177.8, 4)
*S. Smith injury skews numbers down for O*

vs FALCONS (3-1)
D: 2 (69.2, 3.1); O: 31 (116.0; 3)
*Rush D tough, but no fear of pass offense)

vs Eagles (4-1)
D: 5 (104.8, 3.7); O: 1 (303.8, 11)
*Critical game at end of 3 game homestand)

at SAINTS (4-1)
D: 23 (123.8, 4.5); O: 7 (239.4; 5)
*May/may not tbe for real; rush d weak tho*

at RAMS (4-1)
D: 20 (120.6, 4.5); O: 8 (234.6, 7)
*Ditto from Saints*

vs GIANTS (2-2)
D: 9 (86.5, 3.0); O: 2 (271.2, 9)
*Payback; win prob. needed for playoffs*

Opponents' Ave Def Rush Rank: 18.9
Opponents' Ave Off Pass Rank: 13.8
(Eagles only counted once; ranks based on yards per game)

*Over the next five opponents, Skins face the 3 worst rush defenses in the league.

OK, now go at it Blog Nation: which stat (if either) matters more toward winning each game?

My prediction: Skins win the next three.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 12, 2006 11:06 PM | Report abuse


Great Work! But looking at that schedule makes my stomach nauseous. I don't want to play the Eagles at all, anyway we can get out of that one? :) And the Saints? Eek, they have Reggie Bush and by then he'll be tearing people apart. And the Falcons with Vick? OK, I just threw up now--visions of him dancing through our secondary for 200 yards plus--uggh. Boy, I hope to Grilliams our defense is patched up by then.

Really, there is no way we are going to win against the Colts unless we do something drastic on defense: pressure him or shut their run game to nil and force him to make bad throws. I just don't see it happening, he is one guy who can win a game on skill alone, especially when all the chips are down.

As much as it pains me to say this, right now the whole rest of the NFC East looks a lot better than us. What is sad is they don't have anywhere close to the same level of talent--they are all just playing better. New offense, torn-apart D, players hurting, adjustments here, adjustments there--whatever, this team needs to stop making excuses and pull together. Now! This game; this week; this opponent. Crush their sternums, knock their heads off, pull their arms out of their sockets, rip their spleen out and eat it, right there on the field; make them wish they had never played this game. Put some life and pride back into our players. (OK, maybe I'm going a little overboard here, but that's what I'm good at)

The rest of schedule is hard enough to do it with our backs to the wall. Get on track now. Don't wait until we have to win 5, 6, 7, 8 in a row to make it to the playoffs.

Posted by: Megskin | October 12, 2006 11:29 PM | Report abuse

which stat (if either) matters more toward winning each game?

Other teams defense. No question in my mind. Giants defense pummeled us while that clown (Coughlin) could only get 19 points out of his offense. Come on, how the hell did they not score more than 19?

Time for Portis to go crazy against these Defenses.

Posted by: Megskin | October 12, 2006 11:32 PM | Report abuse


I'm not a pollyanna type nor do I blindly just say the Skins will always win. I agree with you that the Skins lack a certain swagger right now. But I DO think that they can beat the Titans, Colts, and Cowboys. I just don't think Tennessee has enough to beat the Skins, even if the Skins are a bit rough right now. Totally agree with you that Manning could pick the Skins apart, but keeping him off the field through long drives against their weak, weak rush defense is very possible. And I'll always take the Skins over the 'Boys at home after a bye week with Gibbs around, especially if he puts the Dalls game on continous loop in the locker room.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 12, 2006 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Meg..Youre Money!!!! Especially the spleen comment

Posted by: OC Paul | October 13, 2006 12:40 AM | Report abuse

JMan, your peeps spelled your name on the cover, Live On Line Jason La Confora. Typos are one thing but spelling the Syracuse Grad's last name is plain wrong. I'm sendin' Swoops over to handle this.

Posted by: coolio | October 13, 2006 1:12 AM | Report abuse

HMan, nice. I agree on the next three games, BUT, here's my two cents. The Skins need a hun from CP in every game in order to win or possibly win. This team does well when he does well. Opens the pass attack( okay, screens , dump offs, Other side of the coin, if this team can't consistently get three and outs on D, it will put the onus on the O to score more.

This team cannot give up on third downs PARTICULARLY third and long. Until they break this 5 game trend, fat lady ain't singin', we're bloggin' NCAA b-ball, or we're sitting back waiting for the draft------ oops, got nothin' there.

This team stopped a potent rushing attack with the Jags, and forced them to throw. Problem was, we knew it but couldn't stop it. Until they figure that out, they can have China Springs and the best corner in the world on the other side, and still give up tons.

It's so odd that most teams when you shut down their rushing attack, the QB is getting pulverized, havack and mayhem abound, and the D is havin' a great time. This team can't seem to grasp that.

Posted by: coolio | October 13, 2006 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Pink C.C.'s award please??!!

Eazy there Blogger on the Bogger-did you see BOG got 212 comments today on college hoops?...

Posted by: Pink C.C.- | October 13, 2006 2:55 AM | Report abuse

5 TCCL for JLC for laying the smack down.
4 TCCL for Megskins and we all know why.
4 TCCL for Cindy just because I like her
4 TCCL for CP for the block on LeVar

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 8:00 AM | Report abuse

HaikuMan bringin the numbers--I like it. I also think the other teams' defense is the more imprtant stat--for a couple of reasons. Our D has been judged so far this year without our best cover corner and that makes a difference. Not only will Springs help with coverage in the secondary, he'll also (hopefully) inspire enough confidence from Williams to blitz more freely, which should help that much more. Plus, he's a veteran leader and will help on the field--things like settling ST down in crucial moments. Once these things start happening, maybe the D will regain their confidence and start making thigs happen and getting turnovers, like last year. That's the hope. I'm the guy who gets nervous when things go too well early in the season--when every ball seems to bounce your way--b/c nov/dec is when we'll really need those momentum shifters.

I like our chances at taking the next 3. At Indy will be one of the toughest games of the year, but it's the kind of upset you can see coming when you look at those numbers. My biggets fear in that one would be the last minute march down the field by peyton, but we have plenty of time to talk colts after this week. And beating dallass at home is a must. A MUST! HTTR!

Posted by: WrongDog | October 13, 2006 8:01 AM | Report abuse

What happened to all the "packages" Grilliams used to have on defense. If memory serves, he used packages for certain situations to ease Sean Taylor and Carlos Rogers into the starting line-up when they were why is Rocky not being used in some packages? I think use of McIntosh would yeild good results, show that he is a playmaker and put some fire under Holdman.
PS, anyone have any idea why Saunders does not "replicate" the plays that have been successful against Houston and Jacksonville and scap some of the others?
I.e, the shovel pass to CP from three or four wide= good. The various hand-offs to Randle El= bad. I'd like to see sellars used more. I'd like to see one WR screen to Moss per game. And the max protection play with only J Thrash as WR, throw that away. Play selection in the losses has been awful.

Posted by: Fed-Ex Packages | October 13, 2006 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Nice dig on the Bog. This Blogger Rumble is going to be epic.

Posted by: Wes Mantooth | October 13, 2006 8:43 AM | Report abuse


I thought Ryan Clark had the game saving interception in the home game last year against Philly.

The other thing that makes the C. Rogers lack-o-interception thing so painful is that he supposedly was working with the coaches ALL OFFSEASON, because they reviewed the sure interception drop he had against the Seahawks in the playoffs that certainly would have gone for a defensive TD and felt that it cost them some serious momentum and points in that game.

All that work and harrassment from the coaches and he has gotten worse! To think we could have had defensive MVP Shaun Merriman (a terp who loves to play n Maryland) instead of Anvil Hands Rogers....

Posted by: HandyMan | October 13, 2006 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Fed-Ex Packages

I am with you. Put Rocky in there maybe he will be able to stop the run and get to the qb

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I'll hold off on awards till later.

Most important thing is our O-Line beating their d-line.

1. Give's WR's time to get open.
2. Get's Running Game going.
3. Give's Mark time so he doesn't do the happy feet Flash Dance "Maniac" dance.

Getting Mark into a rythm early has been done in two of the games. Both of those games our office looked good.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 9:10 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Megskin, you forgot "rip off their helmets and polka dance on their faces." Yikes, I'm glad I don't owe you money.

Stats for the purposes of projecting win/loss, esp. at this point in the season (given schedule differences btwn teams) don't count for much in my mind. I think trends in play and injuries count for much more. Any given team can beat any other given team on any given Sunday (and sometimes on a Monday night). Its way too early to predict any outcome other than this week based on what we know now.

First, we are lucky that Vince Young in only a couple few games into his starting year. A few more games and we might be in trouble (same thing if our schedule included the Cardinals or the Chiefs ... Leinart and Huard will improve those teams as they find their rhythms with their receivers). The Falcons defense rises and falls with John Abraham. They DEMOLISHED at Carolina with a healthy Abraham. Fortunately for us, he is not durable and could be out when we play them. Falcons threat is and always will be their rushing game, mostly Dunn (adding Norwood has only made this better). Vick will get hurt rushing as much as he does (see McNabb last year). Hopefully, by that time in the season, our outside linebacker play will have improved to contain Vick. Who are the Falcons receivers again? [See?]
Saints could be trouble, esp. if their offensive line holds up.
Rams are getting better, but its one of those NFL givens that they stink on the road.
BAD teams have demonstrated how to stop the Colts. They are cursed and they can be beaten.
Tampa Bay? I'd say the same about Gradkowski (Simms, by the way, will be canned) as I did about Leinart and Huard, but you cannot fake an offensive line, which the Bucs don't have (ask Simms).
NFC East games are STRONG advantage for the home team.
Panthers can only be beaten if the Skins' D steps up by then.
The key to winning ALL of these games every given Sunday is (1) big play to set the tone/momentum early in each half, (2) either (a) maintaining field position thru special teams enthusiasm or no penalties or (b) maintaining time of possession. As long as Portis/Betts/Duckett rush for 30+ times a game, esp. early, we can be a wild card team again.

Posted by: dcsween | October 13, 2006 9:21 AM | Report abuse

out of controll bra. That one had my boss looking at me.

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 9:24 AM | Report abuse


Your points were salient and lucid. Your grammar was impecable. You were positive but realistic. The structure was organized and well though out.

In short, posts like that have no business being on this blog. Please make 5 derogatory posts degrading another blogger and 2 posts about peoples momma.

I digress,

1TCCL-Carlos (Hands of Stone) Rogers- Been covered.

2TCCL-Blog Flirting- No offense to anyone but I live off the rule that everyone you "meet" online is a 45 yr old, balding, 300 pound pervert until proven otherwise.

2TCCL-Czaben, as was said by Sticks, coming on here and facing your detractors get's your some respect. Admitting you were wrong and appologizing would have gotten you more.

4TCCL-Mike Sellers, don't sleep on the kid. He's an important cog in this offense this year and deserves some love.

4TCCL-Dame-Watchout Haikuman you've got competition.

5TCCL-This Blogs regulars-I'm not going to start naming pepes cause I'll just leave someone out who deserves praise. You all are some funny, eclectic and strange pepes.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 9:43 AM | Report abuse

3 TCCL for JLC on WTTG this morning. Insightful as usual...but had a major Alfalfa going on and was stiffer than Maske ever was.

Posted by: bornafan | October 13, 2006 9:47 AM | Report abuse


You got to stop bra."2 posts about peoples momma". LMAO!!! Man you are out of control.
5TCCL for Skinz for making my morning.

JLC you got to get this crew to get this crew together. Remember I come from Jersey so need at least 1 day heads up.

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I did my own miniature pub crawl in your fine city last night. It was the drinking equivalent of aiming for the clown's nose while trying to time the windmill just right. I dunno, DC had more allure to me when I was a kid with a fake ID. I had a moment of weakness last night during which I called my assistant and pleaded for her to get me to New York post-haste. But I persevered and will give it another go tonight. I give the city 2 TCCLs, and myself 5 TCCLs for keeping an open mind.

Oh, and the smoking in bars thing? Time for this town to join the rest of modern civilization and boot the puffers outside. I hear that's happening in January, huh?

All you folks living in fear of your boss need to come work for me. :-) I took my team on a morale-building pub crawl back in Seattle during which we learned how to make drinks, taste wine, and sing national anthems from far off places. A good time was had by all. We actively encourage foolish Web surfing throughout the day.

As for the 'Skins, I don't see them losing on Sunday. With Novak kicking, I think they're pretty much unstoppable. He's not just a kicker, he's a mascot unto himself. A lucky charm, if you will. Magically delicious, or something like that.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 13, 2006 9:55 AM | Report abuse

P Did you guys really have to stop. LMAO!!!On man my stomach is starting to hurt from laughing so hard.

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 10:03 AM | Report abuse

>>> "I live off the rule that everyone you "meet" online is a 45 yr old, balding, 300 pound pervert until proven otherwise."

Skinz, you are so, so right. The Internets are for email and wasting time (and porn). "Meeting" people on the Internets is a hilarious concept to me.

[ Fill in the blank with your success story ]

Posted by: P Diddy | October 13, 2006 10:04 AM | Report abuse

i agree w/ you Diddy. it seems like anywhere you go in DC on weekends, the pubs are filled with college students (not a bad thing, but it takes forever to get a freakin beer)....

on a side note, i just got (downloaded) your (Diddy's) new album. gotta say it's pretty sick.

Posted by: k-man | October 13, 2006 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Fact: in 2005 teams coming off a bye won exactly 50% of the time. Same is true, so far, in 2006.

With Indy facing us off their bye week, I assumed they would have a HUGE advantage. Statistically, that doesn't appear to be the case. That will be a tough game, but we have reason to be optimistic.

If Barno is too be believed, Novak will make his first full step into kicking lore this weekend. One day we'll all be singing folk songs about Nick the Kick, dining at Novak's Bar & Grill, telling our grandkids where we were when our kicker/mascot took the field against the mighty Titans.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 13, 2006 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Troy Vincent!!! I know this has nothing to do with this blog but he has played for Williams before right (I think)? He still has coverage skills and is quick. Do you think the Skins will look at him? I know he is 35 but can this pass defense really get any worse?

Posted by: | October 13, 2006 10:28 AM | Report abuse

novak's cool and all, and i definitely do agree that he's an upgrade from hall, is my concern:

he got blocked twice in (was it 7?) attempts last season in 5 games with us...that indirectly tells us that he tries to line-drive-kick the ones that are slightly out of his range, and those are easy blocks for the defensive teams...

so...with the game on the line and a 45 yard kick separating a win and loss, i don't know if i feel any more confident with novak than i do with hall, at least until automatinick shows me the arc/distance.
hopefully, this sunday we'll have such a huge lead that st. joe will just start kicking field goals on first down everytime we get in their territory just to give nick some practice.......JUST KIDDING...or am i?

Posted by: k-man | October 13, 2006 10:28 AM | Report abuse


The Vincent thing. I was opposed to the idea of this at first glance. Then I started thinking.... The guy had 102 tackles last year at safety. He's be relatively cheap. He knows the division and knows the Eagles O and D. If we can get him on the cheap and he can be a nickel back or passing situation Safety that aint bad.

Any word on this at all JLa?

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a proponent of signing 35 year old DBs (unless said DB is named Darrell Green), but if he is healthy I'm SURE he'll get a call from the Skins. Grill always goes for the guys he's coached before and the secondary is a concern.

Vincent is getting paid handsomely (2.6 M) by the Bills just to go away, so one would think he wouldn't require a huge contract. Plus, dude might have a chip on his shoulder after getting dumped unceremoniously by Buffalo.

I bet he's got a locker in Ashburn by Tuesday.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 13, 2006 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I have really had it. For the last 10 or so years and these past 5 weeks, the Redskins really need to make like NIKE, and

I am so sick and tired and sick and tired and sick and tired and sick and tired of their talking. 'We didn't do it this week, we got to somehow find a way to do it next week' we gotta do this, we gotta do that... JUST F$&*#%&*#$&*#&$ DO IT!!!!!!! QUIT TALKING. QUIT CELEBRATING AFTER 1 MEASLY PLAY. there has been NOTHING TO CELEBRATE ABOUT for the past 10 or so years. STOP YOUR TALKING, and JUST DO IT!!!! so sick of these skins already.


Posted by: KIM!!! | October 13, 2006 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, ecxellent points. Your mom offered me a match ... her face and my butt.

It's been said before that Grilliams has bad hair. I ditto on Asaunders' helmet. No TCCLs for bad hair careers.

5 TCCLs for P.Diddy's open job offer. I'm loading up the truck to move to Beverly (Hills that is, or wherever it is that P.Diddy's staff drinks).

Troy Vincent? Are you kidding me? He's a bazillion years older than Morton Anderson. 1 TCCL for Mike4169's suggestion ... but 4 TCCLs for Troy Vincent's next job move to be the next Gene Upshaw (or 5 TCCLs if he goes to work and drink for P.Diddy).

Nick NOvak should ONLY kick. No mascot job for him. His face is too narrow. Only kickers with one bar face masks can be mascots.

5 TCCLs for JLaC making Czaban the new punching bag (replacing Taylor Jacobs, then Todd Collins, then John Hall). Better to have a non-player as the hate magnet.

1 TCCL to Megskin for her post this week referring to something about the Skins D as warm chunky sewage. No soup for you!

Skinz ... am I there yet?

Boo(FER)yakashot/ah! or something like that

Posted by: dcsween | October 13, 2006 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree with whoever made the point that basing win/loss predictions for each game for the entire season completely on numbers this early is ludicrous -- which is why I only went so far as looking at the next three games for guessing the outcome. I mainly posted all the numbers to provide some fodder for a Friday chat.

The overall point, to me, is that the Skins strength is power running. (CBS or Fox put up a stat at one point about how Gibbs is like 144-5 when his team rushes 40 or more a game). Our offensive line is much better at run blocking than pass protection. I also think that the screen passes and short outs and all the other YAC producing passes are essentially the first cousin to the running game and play off the same Skins strengths. What this amounts to is the Skins being able to offset their defensive weaknesses by controlling the clock on offense. And this is why I think we can beat the Colts -- especially since our Defenses DID contain the Giants (2nd in passing offense to the Colts 5th rank) to only 19 points. The difference between the Colts and Giants is the Colts can't stop the run, which the Skins should be able to exploit.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I think Reebok's new slogan better encapsulates this year's Skins team.

"I am what I am."

Nothing instills a "Man I need to get me some of those new kicks" like a bit of down to earth redundancy.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Report abuse


"(CBS or Fox put up a stat at one point about how Gibbs is like 144-5 when his team rushes 40 or more a game)."

Be careful how you use this stat. The relationship implied usually gets it backwards. Typically announcers will say "If you run x amount of times a game, you will win". This is of course false, because the reason Gibbs and others are so much better when they run the ball 40 times is because you typically run the ball to control a lead, and teams that are winning typically win games.

If Joe Gibbs doesn't run 40 times a game it's because he can't; if you are trailing in a game you have to go to the air eventually. If your run game is a bust and you average 2.5 yards a carry, 40 rushes will only yield 100 yards (and since you aren't passing the ball, and you are burning clock, it's not likely you'll have many more total yards).

To sum up, I think that 144-5 or whatever tells more about what has happened on the field than it does about why. If that makes sense.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 13, 2006 10:55 AM | Report abuse

HaikuMan, I dig your numeric breakdown, but I can't help wishing it were somehow in poem form. I felt the same way about your czabe rant, but didn't share that at the time.

You've got a nice gig going with the poetry and whatnot. We all like it. But I think if you could add a rhyming scheme to your prose analysis, it would further add to the mystique of the blog Poet Laureate.

Just trying to be constructive, my man.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 13, 2006 10:57 AM | Report abuse

1 TCCL for DCsween using a mom joke. How weak is that?

I do not care about age when a guy can tackle. Like I said before. Can he really be much worse then the current guys back there? He can at least help coach the guys since Gray cannot seem to.

Posted by: | October 13, 2006 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Patrol has it right. I hate that stat. It's the tail wagging the dog.

Everytime someone brings it up I want to yell at them.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Don't disagree with the criticism of that stat, which is why I didn't originally mention it and just concentrated on showing how bad the run defenses were of 3 of the next 5 opponents. All stats can be twisted and their causalities questioned, but that stat, in the context of a larger picture, is useful, but not alone sufficient.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 13, 2006 11:15 AM | Report abuse

My main thing is that I think the stat tells a story about an event more than it describes prescriptive action towards winning a game.

The only way I would use it is in a larger context of having more plays in general. Teams that sustain drives win games more than those that don't. Sustaining drives will increase the number of offensive plays you have and more = better.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | October 13, 2006 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Mike####, the line about a momma was only b/c Skinz requested it (see Skinz at 9:43am).

Troy Vincent actually has had a great career at safety. Jeebus knows that we need another safety to compensate for Archuleta's stinky performance. Vincent has about the rest of this season left in him. The Bills cut him the DAY he comes off the IR list. If we picked him up, as someone said yesterday (maybe even Czaban ... gulp), we'd be paying retail and have to drop SOMEONE, presumably one of our works in progress (maybe a D-lineman like Spaghetti). Just seems like too much of a risk for the long-term ... unless Grilliams has a few 3 safety packages, maybe 4 safeties (get Doughty some playing time) ... hell, maybe a nickel safety, no corners (its not like they are playing anyway).

If we are going to TRADE, we need to offer up someone good from a position where we are overloaded with quality (Patten? Duckett?) and pick up a STARTING corner ... someone who is disgruntled and will be regruntled by playing with the Skins. [Troy Vincent is a the president of the players' union, so I'm wondering whether there weren't other political factors working into his release.] I just haven't done the research to figure out who that CB is (that, plus Vinny and St. Joe just don't call me as much as they used to).

Posted by: dcsween | October 13, 2006 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I didn't mean yell at you Haiku. I was referring to the people who live inside my TV and come out on sundays.

Best example was when we lost 36-0 last year to the Gmen and at the end of the game they brought it up. We basically went down by like 24 in the first half and they were acting as if we could have run our way out of it.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th Floor | October 13, 2006 11:28 AM | Report abuse

No offense taken, Skinz! All my ramblings are from those people who live in my head and come out whenever they damn well please....

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 13, 2006 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Go Joe in Raleigh
HaikuMan not same old self
Fantasy undone

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:05 PM | Report abuse

HaikuMan crumbling
Under enormous pressure
Why oh why no rhyme?

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Chunky sewage mouth
This not HaikuMan's best day
Friday the 13th

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Fear the Titans more
Skins will play at Colts level
Vince due his first win

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Report abuse

HaikuMan 6-3,
Buff 200 pounds, shaved head.
Will rhyme when he wants.


Posted by: HaikuMan | October 13, 2006 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Will the Student eclipse the Master?

5 TCCL for Haiku Wars.

Posted by: Megskin | October 13, 2006 12:13 PM | Report abuse


5'11 220lbs of muscle
10% body fat
bald head

Posted by: jm220 | October 13, 2006 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Niiiiice! The LaConfora/Czaban cage match was only the pregame for the Far Eastern poet smackdown!

Posted by: dcsween | October 13, 2006 12:16 PM | Report abuse

If you don't want to laugh very loudly at work, DO NOT read that thing about Ethan Albright. I was crying it was so hilarious.

MV Dame is on his game.
To prevent thoughts from being rude, we should call him Notre Dude.

J-La live. See you there.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | October 13, 2006 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Real student would know
Not to complain about rhymes
To Haiku Master.

Posted by: HaikuMan | October 13, 2006 12:23 PM | Report abuse

MV Dame questions
Not height/weight of yo momma?
I saw her last night

(Tip of hat to Skinz
MV Dame now fears for life
What have I just done??)

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:24 PM | Report abuse

At the risk of interrupting the haiku war, I found the disgruntled CB we should go for ... Asante Samuels ... his agent and the Patriots have not been talking ... and Patriots need receivers ... and Patten knows Brady (and the Pats need WR help). If Samuels' agent's know anything, they have to know that $nyder pays well.

Posted by: dcsween | October 13, 2006 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Scouts Inc.'s Chuck Knox Jr. answered questions on just now. Read below for what it's worth.

Where is Troy Vincent going? Any chance he lands with the Skins. His D Coord from last year is there. He knows the Eagles O and D. Skins need Safety for passing Situations.

I believe he was released injured and it might have been part of an injury settlement. It would all depend on how healthy he is. He could definitely help. He has excellent leadership qualities. If he's injured, they won't touch him. That's the big question mark.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, don't be silly, we're going to pick up another running back.

Posted by: Megskin | October 13, 2006 12:40 PM | Report abuse

any given sunday...thats why they play the games!

this offense has the tools and the was obvious after the games against the texans and shaguars...this team needs to learn how to use the pass to exploit the run and use the run to exploit the pass depending on the opponent/situation...especially against teams with unbalanced defenses like ours and even more especially agaisnt teams with balance...

not that we should be looking past this weekend but the colts are beatable and even though manning is not a good matchup for our secondary, their D is bad and we should be able to put points up and sustain drives and keep manning off the field...and hopefully grilliams realizes he has to attack manning and maybe even springs will tighten up the secondary...long story short though, if you dont force the issue with manning he will pick apart any secondary...

Diddy...just tell me where to submit my resume bra!!! Seriously!!!!! I wont even need to relocate...

Posted by: deadskin | October 13, 2006 12:47 PM | Report abuse

(...assistant coach Al Saunders said. "A running back, you can hand them the ball. The receivers, you've got to throw the ball to them.")

Is that how it works?
700 page playbook
Players still reading

Posted by: MV Dame | October 13, 2006 12:51 PM | Report abuse

yeah regarding vincent and all the other DBs that got released in the past few all may have opinions on how bad or washed up they are and most of them may very well be...but i bet there is at least one diamond in the rough there...someone looking washed up but really just neeeding a change...its rediculous to me that with our secondary problems that we arent bringing any of these people in for a of these guys is going to pan out for a new team...we should be exploring this...

Posted by: deadskins | October 13, 2006 12:54 PM | Report abuse


The issue isn't really whether they are good. The issue is how fast they learn the system. In the secondary not doing your job=80 yard td pass.

Vincent may work because we employ the same d as he has been playing in.

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 1:17 PM | Report abuse

yeah i know...i know that its going to take time for any DB to come in, learn the system and have any impact...but i think you've got to take a look and potentialy pick up some help even if its going to be a few weeks or more before he can even get on the field...we have problems...they need to do something about it...doing the same thing and expecting different results i believe ive heard is the definition of stupidity...give it a chance at least...much like with the blitzing and the virtical passing...just give it a chance...

Posted by: deadskin | October 13, 2006 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Your right on deadskin:

How bad would it hurt to bring in some of these guys and try them out? Maybe since bringing in other punters to challenge Frosty seemed to wake him up, doing that would put a much needed spark in some unamed DBs rear ends.

Posted by: Megskin | October 13, 2006 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Sorry dudes and Megskin, busy morning. People are completely inconsiderate of my normal needs around here.

"Ummmm Patty? Yeah, I need to go post on the Redskins you speed this awesome Friday meeting up? Thanks Patty. Oh and Patty? You're fired go sit next to Albert Connell in the corner of shame on the P2 parking garage".

5TCCL - JLC, big ups for how you brought knowledge this weak, handled a scandal, started and squashed a feud. a quiet booyakashot to you. A lesser man would have succumbed to that shabingus.

5TCCL: Cindy. You are like the Blairy (Blog Fairy) Godmother. Mint.

4TCCL: Steve Czaban. Hear me out. I was not a fan of this dude but he entered hositle ground and handled himself with dignity. I still disagree with the man but I thought it showed a lot to come into our house and to invite JLC into his. Let us remember that we all want the same thing: A parade in Washington to celebrate a championship.

5TCCL: Skinz. Just on point this week. Great week for you.

5TCCL: Haiku: Remember the time you took a break from wondrous prose and dropped knowledge like it was a heavy stone from on high? Oh that was this week.

We roll on Sunday. One.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | October 13, 2006 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to veer off topic.

AM2DSticks or Gov,

My new favorite word is shabingus. I have introduced it to the fellas to rave reviews (don't worry, I gave you props.) Question though, can it be used like

"Quit talking all that shabingus?

Thanks for the knowledge

Posted by: Skinz | October 13, 2006 1:49 PM | Report abuse

i just used "shabingus" in a sentence at work a little meeting that was getting off track, i just threw up my arms and said

"i dont have time to listen to all this shabingus"

everyone seemed to understand my point and it got the meeting back on track...i like it!!!!!

5 TCCLs for Shabingus!!!!

Posted by: deadskin | October 13, 2006 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Sorry DC that was my bad. I agree trading for a starting CB would be better. In that case however they have to learn the system and might not be able to play for 4-5 weeks anyway. Vincent knows the system and could play against Dallas or maybe even Indi.

Most team will not trade a starting player unless they are unhappy. I do not see that really happening. The best option that I see is a guy like Vincent. Not as a starter but to replace Preliou (sorry for mis-spelling)

As for the "injury" factor. They could not release him until he was healthy again because he was on the IR where the player can be released when healthy but you have to pay them still.

Posted by: Mike4169 | October 13, 2006 3:07 PM | Report abuse



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