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Belated Posting on O Line

Sent an email to Cindy to try to get this posted earlier but I guess she missed it.

Anyway, as you all surely know by know they signed two O Linemen they brought in to the practice swuad - both tackes - Kevin Sampson and Calvin Armstrong.

Cut OL Kili Lefotu and FB Brian Bell from the practie squad.

By Jason La Canfora  |  October 16, 2007; 9:21 PM ET
 
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Just drinking waiting to be FIRST!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kili Lefotu | October 16, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Hello Skinies

Posted by: Dx5 | October 16, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love the toughness of Rabach. Although I would love to see him back this week, dare I say we should be able to get by without him??? I would hate to see him aggravate something and be out for the stretch run.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

You crossed the line this time, J-La! Nobody points the finger of blame at Cindy! Nobody!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 16, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Kili Lefotu got cut....he was such a nice guy, too bad

Posted by: Ashburn Police | October 16, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

How stupid is this guy Lefotu? For starters he was getting paid more than most of us to be on the practice squad of an NFL football team. Second, we are down to 2 healthy o-lineman and he clearly missed his shot (once in a life time maybe?) to be activated and make a statement this upcoming week.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

If we don't score again in the second half, I am canceling my Direct Tix!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby II | October 16, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Come on RB, Kili got arrested BEFORE the line's injury spree. How was he supposed to know all hell was going to break loose two days after he got his drink on?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | October 16, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse


O come all ye 'Skins Fans
Watch one more debacle
O pin all your fruitless hopes
On ol' Grampa Gibbs

Come and we'll beat you
And little Moss will cry some more
O come and watch us beat you
O come and watch us beat you
O come and watch us beat you
Your season is lost

Posted by: King Card | October 16, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse


Your team has choked more times than the Boston Strangler.

Posted by: King Card | October 16, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"How stupid is this guy Lefotu?"

Football is not rocket science and that's why a lot of these guys major in "basket weaving."

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | October 16, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

a trash-talkin' cardinal fan...



it's just too easy.


I mean, c'mon!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Kili gets the Idiot of the Year award. Amazing. Guess St. Joe means it when he talks about character guys. Unless it comes to gun-wielding ATV thieves, then it's anything goes.

Kidding, kidding...

Posted by: P Diddy | October 16, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

"... Sent an email to Cindy to try to get this posted earlier but I guess she missed it. ..."

By Jason La Canfora | October 16, 2007; 9:21 PM ET

Yes, I believe Ms. Cyty may have stepped away from her desk for a moment (glug, glug, glug, erp) ... would you like to leave a message?

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey -- if you'd just gotten the bill for the fine fare at Nick's Corner Grill (motto: "We're in the Corner"), you'd be more than a little upset yourself.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Of all the mascots in the NFL, nothing is more fearsome than the dreaded ... cardinal! After a good pecking and a nasty bit of white poop on your windshield, you'll mind your tongue, cload!

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

RB II, I like it.

Adam, hilarious, but you can't be serious? This guy should be smacked over the head with a frying pan for wasting an opportunity almost every guy in America wishes he had. Things, like injuries, happen way too often in this league. Heck, with the injuries to Jansen and Thomas, wasn't he one play away from being called up to the show??? You can't be that stupid when you're one play away...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

oh, I thought it was the color cardinal, not that cute little tweety bird!
ahem, I mean fierce, valiant hunter of worms!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

You can't be that stupid when you're one play away...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 10:12 PM

Oh, yes you can!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm getting way too ahead of myself, but could the baseball playoffs be working out more perfectly?

I was hoping for an Anaheim-Colorado WS but Cleveland-Colorado is just fine with me too.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Robins eat worms. The intrepid cardinal is a DESTROYER of all manner of seed! Millet? Gone. Rye? Finished. Sunflower? Not a chance. As they say in Arizona (formerly known as St. Louis), you will never reap if you cannot sow!

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I guess the fact that they're only signed to the practice squad, means at this stage they're satisfied with who'll be available against the Cards.

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

kost, first practice was today. I think they're still figuring out what they got.

You thought your parakeet had a bad attitude? BEWARE of the cardinal. Grrr ... I mean ... tweeeeet.

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Is the Cardinal the only US professional sports mascot to be 'double dipped'?

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

kost, Giants

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

and those so-called "Bengals" aren't fooling anyone...

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Of course, forgot about those boys.

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

On running plays, they only need 3 linemen since they go left exclusively

Posted by: bob4me2see | October 16, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

"On running plays, they only need 3 linemen since they go left exclusively"

Posted by: bob4me2see | October 16, 2007 10:32 PM

That's part of Gibbs 2.0 ... its from NASCAR ... always turn left.

Posted by: dcsween | October 16, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

fun fact: Nick's Corner Grill is probably -- as the crow flies -- the closest restaurant to the cloadsidence... or is that the daggar-dome?

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The fact that we're expected to run left all the time, sets it up perfectly for a counter doesn't it. Would be lovely to see it work like Portis' first ever carry for the Skins.

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Skins replay on NFL network right now FYI if you are a glutton for punishment.

Posted by: Skinz | October 16, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

isn't painful to watch yet. will be once the pass dropping and poor line play begins. the people begging for todd wade to start over jansen the last couple of months should watch the way he gets manhandled by aaron kampman.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 16, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Great day up here guys!

Posted by: Jack Meoff | October 16, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

dcsween!

"The intrepid cardinal is a DESTROYER of all manner of seed! Millet? Gone. Rye? Finished. Sunflower? Not a chance."

LMGO

Posted by: farstriker | October 16, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

How stupid is this guy Lefotu?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | October 16, 2007 09:38 PM

Maybe Lefotu was hanging out with Andray Blatche?

Posted by: Cindy's boy toy | October 16, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Jasno,

How about some professional insight on all the groin and hamstring injuries. Is any of this say.. preventable through proper hydration and stretching? What does Busta Bubba say about it? What does the strength and conditioning coach say about it?

Did anyone bother to ask Gibbs at his presser if he and his staff had the right cleats brought out and changed on the plyers for the half time wet city shabingus at Lambaeu field? It is clear on the Wa-Po pictures of Moss just before the fumble that he was slipping backward after trying to make a cut. Everyone on the Skins was slipping, while few people were slipping on the Green Bay team.

PS- The Redskins Warpath Insider is claiming that Portis gets to sometimes call for certain plays (before and during the game) he thinks will work and he also acts a mediator for other players requests to Gibbs. I normally would not beleive this, but other reports seem to indicate that players were able to call up to the press box during the Lions game and persuade the coaches to put Lloyd in the game and throw him a pass. Additionally Sellars seems to be lobbying Gibbs, Campbell and whomever will listen for certain plays to be called. Is this sort of thing normal? Who has the final say on play-calling? Are the inmates sort of running the asylum from time to time? Do Gibbs and Saunders talk about plays over the headset?

PS: Does anyone in the presser ever screw up enough courage to ask Gibbs if he thinks his clock management is up to speed or ask why he calls back to back timeouts?

Posted by: DTC | October 16, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm Jack. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I enjoy ice cream and a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me I have an I.Q. of 48.

Posted by: Jack | October 16, 2007 03:21 PM

That's a repetitive post from several weeks ago, not real funny then either.

Posted by: Jack | October 16, 2007 03:26 PM

It was funny when Steve Carell did it.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy | October 16, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

DTC - I'm no expert, but over here due to the amount of running and kicking, hamstrings are probably the most common injury. I remember hearing an expert say once that some people arejust more prone to doing hamstrings, and one of the major problems is that when there is a tear, even when it heals there's still scar tissue, which is more likely to tear again, so guys who have hamstring problems end up with layer upon layer of scar tissue. We had a guy retire this season because he tore his hamsring, never in the same place, 7 times during the season, and therefore only played in 2 of a possible 24 games. There was also another player who had a serious hamstring, so they sent him to Germany to see an expert who uses weird techniques like rubbing calves blood into the hammy.

Seems as though there isn't a set rule for these things.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22066351-23211,00.html?from=public_rss

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Jason, when it comes to playcalling Joe Gibbs should leave that alone and concentrate on coaching besides saunders is a lot more aggressive as a playcaller than gibbs is despite the fact this team does not have Posse type receivers and another thing this team is lacking is the 6,4 size receiver that can stretch the field and here is another thing this team is lacking bruising running back no disrespect to Portis but can you really compre Portis to the likes of say Gerlad Riggs or Earnest Byner or Kelvin Bryant or even the Diesel.

Posted by: armen | October 16, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Kelvin Bryant????

Are you joking. He was a speed guy who could not go 2 plays without being hurt.

The Diesel was a lot like CP at the same age. I did not know that put was speed guy and did not have more the 17 carries a game most of his time in the NFL.

Gerlad Riggs was very good for a long time.

CP is the real deal. But as many have pointed out durability is an issue.

Posted by: M&M | October 16, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I remember when Gibbs first came back, he hired an 'instant reply' consultant to help him out with throwing the red flag, since it was a rule Gibbs didn't have to deal with in Version 1.0

There's no Salary Cap for staff, so why don't the Skins hire a 'clock management consultant', someone who off the top of his head (or maybe has a chart), knows the best direction to head in, when certain circumstances arise. Have him stand next to Joe, and make sure that we stop getting caught out. I can understand if Joe is a bit slow to react because he's got so much going on in his scone at once, so why not hire someone to help out. It's obviously an area we need to improve on.

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

We have the same trainers for the last few years.

Gibbs said the put on the long cleats.

I did not read this yet but it has not rained in DC for 30+ days. Therefor when you get a wet field players may not be ready for that weather. Slipping, strains, dropped balls ect. (just a theory to counter crazy theories)

Think about almost no dome teams winning SB.

Posted by: M&M | October 16, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - Was just reading ESPN magazine, and they've provided the proper pronounciation for our favourite non-Redskins, non-Champ cornerback. Mr.Mushimushi.

NAHM-dee Awesome-mu-wah

I think I like Mushimushi better

Posted by: kost52 | October 16, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree the second time out was bad clock management but not unforgivable.

The Giants game it is very hard to make that case but it seems to be accepted by the bloggers and Jla. 3 plays all should have scored and the team was unsettled so downing the ball was not a bad call.

Phily there should have been a ten second run down on the fales start penalty. So a field goal is the right call (4 vs 14 seconds). They did not run the clock as the rule says. Gibbs explained this but no one hears.

The Bigger issues is that the O line plays like cr*p and gets penalties when we get to half time or the end of games. Phily, Giants, GB.

Gibbs knows this so that is way he kicked the field goal in game one on first down.

Posted by: M&M | October 17, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

DTC,

Gibbs does not appear to like the pressers too much (unless we win) - in fact, I doubt any of the coaches do - so probably would evade those kind of questions if asked.

However, Gibbs appears every Tuesday on Redskins Radio (which is televised) on Comcast. He is very open and takes questions from callers...no matter how crazy they are - Surprisingly he is very open and honest and answers the callers in great detail.

Posted by: Lisa | October 17, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, you're right, there aren't many coaches who enjoy the pressers, but I think the exception is Brian Billick. I bet that guy hasn't seen a camera or microphone he wouldn't make love to if given the opportunity.

Sam Wyche, too, from back in the day before his vocal cords were intact.

Is the Joe Gibbs Show on Comcast available on DirecTV?

Posted by: P Diddy | October 17, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'm not sure. The show is called Redskins Radio - it's actually a radio show with Larry Michael and Bram Weinstein that is also televised on Comcast Sportsnet Monday - Friday at 4:00 EST. I tape the show. Gibbs has a segment every Tuesday and I'm always amazed at how open he is.

On the other hand, Larry Michael and Bram are sometimes unbearable. They argue with each other (not during Gibbs segment) and change subjects on the drop of a dime.

Posted by: Lisa | October 17, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

I'll check the listings :-)

BTW, watching NFL Live. Trey Wingo (I think) is doing his best to catch Steve Smith saying something stupid by peppering him with inane "Vinny Testaverde is old enough to be your dad" questions. Smith is awesome. He's not falling for it, sticking to his talking points, and remaining respectful. Love that dude.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 17, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

"Redskins Radio" shows up in the Guide. I'm going to record it on Monday and see if it's blacked out.

Posted by: P Diddy | October 17, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Let's see.....Shut up that Cardinal fan real quick...Ummmm How many Superbowl rings does the Cards have? NEXT!

Posted by: Leevi | October 17, 2007 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I think I hurt my "swuad" working out tonight

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Does hockey still count as a major league sport?

Cardinals (MLB & NFL)
Giants (MLB & NFL)
Kings (NBA & NHL)
Panthers (NFL & NHL)
Rangers (MLB & NHL)

Formerly duplicated mascots:
Oilers (NHL & NFL (now Titans))
Jets (NFL & NHL (now Coyotes))

Eventually duplicated mascot:
Warriors (NBA & NFL (guess who))

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 17, 2007 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Kili Lefotu
Spent the night in county jail;
We hardly knew you

Posted by: Ukiah | October 17, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Hate to be a grammar maven up here, Leevi-channeling-Emmitt at 1:01am, but I believe it's "how many Superbowl RIngs does the Cards has?"

:)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 17, 2007 2:00 AM | Report abuse

but can you really compare Portis to the likes of say Gerlad Riggs or Earnest Byner or Kelvin Bryant or even the Diesel?

Posted by: armen | October 16, 2007 11:37 PM

Running backs are the same size as they were 25 years ago, on average. Defensive lineman, linebackers, and safeties are much bigger, stronger and faster. Being effective, staying healthy and having a long career is a much more difficult proposition now for running backs.

Posted by: Ukiah | October 17, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: P Diddy | October 17, 2007 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Line for Sunday up to 8/8.5

This smells like a quiet trap game to me.

Skins better not be looking ahead.

Posted by: GAD | October 17, 2007 3:30 AM | Report abuse

Fantastic posts once again Jasno.

As for the on going non-story of the disturbing trend of RECENT 2nd half collapses, there are obvious reasons.

Last year, the defense couldn't stop infants from drooling their sweet potatoes coupled with a first-time qb taking over the offense. The defense was utter rubbish and wore out by the time they were on the field for the 24th minute.

This year, second-half adjustments. This offense has not been able to adjust to losing key offensive linemen in the second half of the TWO losses.

It is that simple and sometimes the answers aren't complicated.

Everyone knew this team had depth problems - but then again every team does with the Pats as perhaps the only exception.

Posted by: bangkokben | October 17, 2007 4:21 AM | Report abuse

Nate - Nice work with the double dipping!

Posted by: kost52 | October 17, 2007 5:02 AM | Report abuse

I second bangkokben.

I can't read these stories anymore.

On a deferent subject.

I would rather rest the O line and CP this week and hope we win.

If not we could lose the next 3 games. If we do maybe 3-0 but no worse than 1-2 and still in the hunt.

Posted by: M&M | October 17, 2007 5:13 AM | Report abuse


Any thoughts on some teams under the radar.

Giants
Jax
Steelers

Steelers don't have a power run game but defense is better than last year. I don't think Ben is developing into a real NFL QB. I saw them a lot at penn state.

Posted by: M&M | October 17, 2007 5:16 AM | Report abuse

I could be a member of the scuba swuad?

Okay, I'm back. I've licked my wounds... I've gotten over Green Bay... Now I gotta catch up on the RI.

Welcome back to jm220, smack to the back of my sjk head for not saying it earlier. Peace brother.

Go Skins! Hail to 'em. F Arizona.

Posted by: Dorf | October 17, 2007 6:43 AM | Report abuse

Morning ladies
Cards will be a slam dunk with Rattay at QB! Unfortunately it will once again give Redskin nation FALSE hope!But the Pats will bring them crashing down.

Posted by: jm220 | October 17, 2007 7:01 AM | Report abuse

jm220, we are all Cards all this week (and the Skins' D will do to Brady what they did to Kitna and Favre ... opposing QBs worst game of the year).

Posted by: dcsween | October 17, 2007 7:43 AM | Report abuse

dcsween
Thats all fine but if we lose(Which we will) then what is your point? Lose by 1 or 30 whats the difference? Loss is a Loss!

Posted by: jm220 | October 17, 2007 7:47 AM | Report abuse

fake-ass jm220 posts above.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

jm220.

Perhaps re: the salm, however, skisn have lost 2 of last 3. ALso, their offense has disappeared for the entire 2nd half in those losses.

Trap game.

Posted by: GAD | October 17, 2007 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I played the Pats in Madden '08 last night in my Skins season and came out on top 24-6. It was a defensive battle as the defense came up huge forcing Brady to throw 3 picks, the last was returned for 6 late in the game (ala Detroit style). Dramatic foreshadowing perhaps?

Posted by: skins57 | October 17, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I played the Pats in Madden '08 last night in my Skins season and came out on top 24-6. It was a defensive battle as the defense came up huge forcing Brady to throw 3 picks, the last was returned for 6 late in the game (ala Detroit style). Dramatic foreshadowing perhaps?

Posted by: skins57 | October 17, 2007 09:29 AM

Oh that makes me feel better. Now all is right in the world because the Patriots lost in MADDEN. I will pick the Skins to win based on that information. Thnaks for playing our game.

Posted by: DR | October 17, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

jm220, I'm denying that a loss against NE is a foregone conclusion. If Brady and his receivers can be kept off the field or otherwise contained on the deep ball, then the accursed football gods (i.e., the keepers of the randomness of turnovers and special teams flukes) might take pity on the Skins (or disdain on the media-crowned dynasty ... of cheating cheaters).

Posted by: dcsween | October 17, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Radio is available every weekday at noon at Redskins.com. (Yep, it's on right now.) It is replayed on CSN station at 4pm. If you want to ask Gibbs a question, he is on Tuesdays.

Posted by: thebigc1982 | October 17, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

And Redskins Radio is on the triple x stations.

Posted by: thebigc1982 | October 17, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

a trash-talkin' cardinal fan...

it's just too easy.


I mean, c'mon!

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 16, 2007 10:00 PM
------------------
The Cards are ATOP their division (Washington-3rd) and have as many wins as Washington - 3.

Posted by: Gimee Some | October 17, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

sic

How's everyone ....been awhile....tuff one to take sunday, the old snatched defeat from the jaws of victory....Just a case of a team trying to take the next step...the way this league is now (esp nfc) its all right in front of us if we can learn to finish....in order for that to happen we have to have our "differernce makers" make a play some where in the game to keep the momentum from changing to the other side... that play could be a third down pass/ run/ catch that keeps a drive alive or it could be an obvious big play...point is to make a play ,and have it be made by one of the leaders of your team .....all good teams consistently have play makers who step up....to get to the top level we need this..

Posted by: Old School | October 16, 2007 08:39 PM

I'm not say'n

Posted by: Old School | October 17, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

THE ONLY REASON WE ARE 3AND 2 INSTEAD OF 5&0 IS BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING THE SAME DISDAIN AND HATE FOR THE ENEMY FROM JERSEY AS WE AND THE PLAYERS SO FOR THE DALASSSSS COWGIRLS. WE WON ALL OUR SUPERBOWLS WHEN WE SWEPT THAT OVERRATED TEAM THAT PROPS N.Y. BUT PLAYS IN THAT HORRIBLE STATE N.J. BEATING THEM IN JERSEY AS A REVENGE GAME THAT WILL DETERMINE OUR FATE. WE CAN BEAT THE PATSIES WITH OUR D.THEY WILL BE LOOKING PAST US TOWARD THE COLTS. HAIL

Posted by: SKINSUPERFAN | October 18, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

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