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Betts: No Setbacks

From Jason Reid:

Although still not completely healed, running back Ladell Betts was encouraged by his performance Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys.

Betts, who sat out three games because of a sprained left knee, rushed once for one yard and caught two passes for 27 yards.

"It felt good in warmups, felt good once I got out there, but once it got hit a couple of times I knew it wasn't a hundred percent," Betts said. "But you know, I knew it wasn't a hundred percent coming into the game.

"I don't think I had any setbacks and I'm walking around pretty good right now. I think it's going to be okay."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 17, 2008; 12:13 PM ET
 
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Standby for the following posts this week:

** Torrance would have downed the ball.

** Can you believe how many Cowboy fans there were?

** Jansen is terrible...forget what I said earlier this year.

** Don't blame Rock.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Washington will lead the cut list for next season. Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter. I almost stuck Samuels on that list, but I'm wait and see on him. Jason Taylor will retire, as will James Thrash. Maybe Kendall as well.

Posted by: kingrob76 | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM |

king,

I did almost this exact thing on Madden worked great for me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 11:53 AM

Where did you think I got my "trade for Boldin" idea? The only problem I have on offense is that I won't send all 11 guys to the Pro Bowl like I could on PS2!

Speaking of which...Alex, you need to just get an upgrade. If you're using a PS2 on an HDTV then there's nothing I'm aware of you can do to fix the picture. But if you get a PS3 or XBox (I have PS3, but wish I got XBox--way cheaper and you'll have to learn different controls from PS2 all over again anyway) it's the clearest picture you can get. But I'm warning you--if you're into franchise mode it sucks on the "next gen" systems.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

cej75024,

Don't forget the "Vinny screwed the pooch by drafting 3 pass catchers instead of a DE" post. I hate what the Skins did in the 2nd round, but I'm from the Doc Walker school of thought that says "personnel talk is for the off-season. During the season you play with who you've got."

But it's hard to take shots at Vinny with that midset so JLC won't do that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Brown;

PS3 is more expensive because you get a bluray player with it. it is an add on with xbox (as is everything with microsoft).

Anyway, we need to get younger on our team.

O line cant pass block (or run block when we are only throw 3.9 per pass).

Cant wait for post game heros to annihilate our o line this week,

Posted by: Zeebs | November 17, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

This is good news. He's no CP but he's closer to CP than he is to the Tip Toe Burglar.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Brown;

PS3 is more expensive because you get a bluray player with it. it is an add on with xbox (as is everything with microsoft).

Posted by: Zeebs | November 17, 2008 12:25 PM


Thanks, Zeebs. I had no idea; I thought the whole Blu-ray thing came standard with XBox too. In that case, I'm glad I got PS3!

You're right. We need to get younger. And that's why it was so important to get good young players AT MULTIPLE POSITIONS in this year's draft. You have to have solid young talent backing up your starters so they're ready once the starter falls off. In Pittsburgh, Clark Haggans got cut and they had Woodley to take his place. Skins fans ought to remember him as the guy who dominated FedEx a couple weeks back. We should have a guy like that waiting in the wings to take over for Washington when he gets cut...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

coulda sworn I wanted to trade for Boldin back in preseason, even if he was going to be pricey. Yesterday, he had 183 receiving yards, more than our entire team. Plus he leads all WRs in TDs.

Greg, I did post on wanting Boldin -- at least once or twice ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to home field advantage?

My only true hope for this season was to beat the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles at home. Losing to the very beatable Cowboys leaves me somewhat disheartened, at this juncture. The memory of the home loss to the Rams is salt in the wound.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

WR-TE-WR

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

This is good news. He's no CP but he's closer to CP than he is to the Tip Toe Burglar.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 12:32 PM

I about fell out of my chair when I heard Deion Sanders call Alexander "Tip Toe Burglar". High comedy. I wish we'd cut him already; there's nothing you can tell me to make me believe he's better than Sellers or Rock or some street FA like Samkon Gado. I'd rather play Lorenzo Alexander than Shaun!

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

We should have a guy like that waiting in the wings to take over for Washington when he gets cut...

Posted by: brownwood26

To be fair, we do have our fair share of those. Blades at LB, probably one of the youngest secondaries in the league, Monty/Golston at DT, Rinehart/Heyer at o-line, Devin Thomas/Malcolm Kelly at WR, Fred Davis at TE. Only thing is that a lot of the aforementioned guys are unproven as starters, and the only true high impact guys on that list are from the secondary.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to home field advantage?

My only true hope for this season was to beat the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles at home. Losing to the very beatable Cowboys leaves me somewhat disheartened, at this juncture. The memory of the home loss to the Rams is salt in the wound.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | November 17, 2008 12:35 PM

The Rams loss doesn't hurt as much if you win the division home games. But you're right; this was the easiest of the 3 division home games and we blew it. But I look at it this way: the Giants went 3-5 at home last year and won the whole thing. As a matter of fact, the season to this point has had a rather similar trajectory to what the Giants did last year. Let's hope we end the year the same way!

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Tip Toe Burglar !!! Classic !!! not the reason we lost the game...but GREAT LINE !!

Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Zorn just said it was Ladell's fault on the penalty for 12 men not Devin Thomas, also blamed the missed catch by Thomas on JC said there was no reason for him to throw the ball that low.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, we do have our fair share of those. Blades at LB, probably one of the youngest secondaries in the league, Monty/Golston at DT, Rinehart/Heyer at o-line, Devin Thomas/Malcolm Kelly at WR, Fred Davis at TE. Only thing is that a lot of the aforementioned guys are unproven as starters, and the only true high impact guys on that list are from the secondary.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 12:40 PM

Yeah, but you can't rely on being lucky with undrafted FAs and late round picks. Those obviously help (and it's the only reason EVERYONE on the roster isn't 31 or older), but it's not helpful for your late round picks to be consistently better than your first day picks. If you're drafting right, you're getting solid contributors in the late rounds (like we are) and your 1st/2nd and sometimes 3rd round picks are becoming stars (like we aren't).

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

coulda sworn I wanted to trade for Boldin back in preseason, even if he was going to be pricey. Yesterday, he had 183 receiving yards, more than our entire team. Plus he leads all WRs in TDs.

Greg, I did post on wanting Boldin -- at least once or twice ...

Posted by: zcezcest1

Another WR will not solve this team's offensive woes. This offense was fine in the beginning of the season. The problem is 2-fold in my book:

(1) Offensive line protection. No excuses, must be better against 4 man rushes.

(2) Zorn's playcalling. He's become much more conservative and much more predictable as the season moves along.

Fix those 2 things, and this offense is back on track to being top 10 in moving the ball and time of possession. Boldin would help, no doubt, but these two items will catch up to the offense regardless of which playmakers they have.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

A few things from last night:

Zorn holds a lot of the responsibility for that loss. ARE should not have been on punt returns. He was too valuable as a WR. We've discussed this on this blog before. Returning punts is a pretty high injury risk. If the folks on this blog knew better, Zorn certainly should have.

Without ARE, the passing game is a disaster.

Zorn's play calling was pretty poor. 4th and 4 and they send Moss out on a 2 yard pattern. Even if he had caught that pass, its not a first down.

Rock did blow it on that downing the ball at the 1. No urgency to dive on it, no one on the other team were going to pick it up.

Yes, Portis was out of bounds which should have given us added shots at the end of the half.

Shaun Alexander has got nothing.

The lines were huge. Our d-line has no pass rush, Jason Taylor is still a non factor. Like Andre Carter.

Our o-line is looking way too shabby in pass pro. I knew it wasn't great, but I didn't expect it to be that bad.

How many times did romo dump a pass just beyond the line in the middle of the field? Seemed like it worked a lot. Hadn't seen anyone do that so successfully against us before

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

also blamed the missed catch by Thomas on JC said there was no reason for him to throw the ball that low.

Posted by: Flounder21

That is a horrible excuse for Thomas. JC put the ball where the defender had no shot at breaking up the pass. Countless times QBs throw the ball where only the receiver can get it. Thomas has no excuse for dropping a pass like that. That's what's expected from your WRs. Not every pass is going to be drilled straight into the numbers. Even Madden acknowledged that that pass should have been caught.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Minor correction to an earlier comment.

Our 1st and 2nd round picks have done well. All our 1st round picks have been good (Rogers, Campbell, Landry and ST21). Rocky was a good pick in round 2. This year is the first time mgmt has really had that many high picks perform so poorly. Though they are still rookies, its not like we know if they will turn the corner at some point.

The issue is that we've traded a lot of the higher picks away

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Even when Marcus Washington has been on the field, he's been out indefinitely...we haven't seen the "real" Marcus Washington in 2 seasons; and, sadly, I don't believe we ever will.

If I said it once, I'll say it again...IF LADELL BETTS AT 75% IS GETTING CARRIES AHEAD OF SHAUN ALEXANDER, THEN SHAUN ALEXANDER NEEDS TO BE CUT TODAY.

Posted by: p1funk | November 17, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I think I agree with zcezcest1 on all points.

It's easy to pinpoint the players on defense that can't play. It's not so obvious on offense.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 17, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Fix those 2 things, and this offense is back on track to being top 10 in moving the ball and time of possession. Boldin would help, no doubt, but these two items will catch up to the offense regardless of which playmakers they have.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 12:48 PM

I don't know about that...I would take our o-line over Arizona's and they're a juggernaut. Warner had a better line in NY and looked awful there. The difference is he's got so many targets that you have to pick your poison once you commit, they'll kill you with whomever you leave open. Not saying we'd be the '99 Rams or anything, but if you're getting rid of the ball quickly to multiple proven targets you can withstand an average line. Just a thought...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Heading west to Latte Country, I'm sensing a big win ... I'm pretty sure that Nate and PDiddy repping for the Skins out there will totally match the hometown fans' 12th man effect. Maybe they will bring towels. Skins fans with towels in Seattle would totally take the home crowd out of the game.

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2008 9:57 AM


Just Nate & Diddy?

Ahem.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 17, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Spoke to soon, zcezcest1. You're wrong about Laron -- he's not good.

He just launches himself into players that are already tackled. That's it. That's all he offers.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I've mentioned earlier how I see a turnover as being worth a negative 50 yards. So add that into our passing numbers. Net yards was 136 -50 = 86. We attempted 35 passes and had 3 sacks. So that's 86/38 or 2.3 yards a pass. Compared to 4.2 rushing.

Also of note, every turnover the offense has made has come on a passing play. Zero turnovers on rushing plays.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

but if you're getting rid of the ball quickly to multiple proven targets you can withstand an average line. Just a thought...

Posted by: brownwood26

Probably true. But if I had the choice of taking one or the other, hands down it would be an improved o-line. Arizona is a juggernaut against poor teams. We'll see how they perform against the true competition (their 3 losses, the the Jets, to Carolina, and to us -- three winning teams with very good/great defenses). It will catch up to them eventually, especially when they play the likes of Carolina, Tampa, NYG, or us in the playoffs.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Landry has been a little disappointing. He set the bar pretty high with those picks in the playoff game last year. If #21 was still roaming centerfield, no doubt in my mind that TD to Martellus Bennett would have been picked or incomplete.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

re: Laron has been a starter almost since day 1 and over the last 15 games, the Skins defense has been among the best in the league -- even without a pass rush. Certainly can't call him a bust. Especially considering he's just in his 2nd season.

The main point is still there -- the Skins have done well with their high draft picks, this year is the anomaly.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Laron is good. He's just not great. I thought he'd be very similar to Dawkins up in Philly. Never thought he'd be near ST. I don't even think he'll get to Dawkins level now. I think he'll be a good Safety in this league.

If you want to play a drinking game, drink evertime Landry comes into the camera's field of vision and hits a guy out of bounds.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Landry has been a little disappointing. He set the bar pretty high with those picks in the playoff game last year. If #21 was still roaming centerfield, no doubt in my mind that TD to Martellus Bennett would have been picked or incomplete.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 1:09 PM

Agree on both points. But #21 was a pro bowler in his fourth year. Horton's a seventh round rookie. And Horton still had pretty good position.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 17, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

You're wrong about Laron -- he's not good.

He just launches himself into players that are already tackled. That's it. That's all he offers.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh

What?? How many deep balls were completed last game? How many deep balls have been completed all year long? I don't think you get what Landry's assignment is in this defense.

By the way, the second INT was sparked by Landry drilling Romo on a blitz. He forced the quick pass to TO, which allowed Rogers to jump on the route and drill TO, which forced the popped-up ball.

There literally isn't any problem with this defense. Nobody will be perfect. When you give up 14 points at home, you're supposed to win. By the way, 2 other losses this season -- 19 points and 16 points given up. Defense is not the problem.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

It feels like I'm watching a Spurrier offense again. They act like they've never seen a blitz before.

You have to wonder what exactly they DO during practice. Do they just throw pads at JC for 2 hours, have a good laugh, and go out for beers?

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Sorry should read, hits a guy and knocks him out of bounds after he's already caught the ball and gotten two feet in.

ST-interception
Dawkins- Knocks the ball loose before guy can get two feet in
Landry-Delivers a blow after the guy gets two feet in.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

AZ can score against anyone, but they don't have a great defense. And since their run game isn't that good, they can be slowed by top defenses.

My biggest problem is that Nate has Warner in FF. Since Warner throws 40 times a game, he's tough to beat. I'm 1 game behind Nate in our division. And beat him head to head. But its down to just 2 games left and he's gonna be tough to catch. @#!W#%!@%

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Are you actually blaming landry? I mean the guy is still learning, missed all of training camp this year and has had a hamstring injury for most of the season... HE is a solid player who is still figuring out what he can and cannot do, and to be judgemental on him is a little ridiculous...
All he does is come in and bat balls down and make plays. He is late sometimes and makes some mistakes but HE IS STILL IN HIS 2nd YEAR... I mean yes it would be nice if he could come in a little earlier and pick it, but our defense isn't like that anymore... we don't have a Sean Taylor back there... we have a young, STUPID, SS in Horton who still has to learn how to cover and play SS at an NFL level... We can't use landry the way we used Taylor because we don't have a reliable option out there as a safety valve other than him... so back off the kid and watch as he becomes a star... fool

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | November 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

fact 2: todd collins came in and proved it wasn't the o-line.

Posted by: dealer1 | November 17, 2008 10:23 AM


Have to disagree on this point, dealer. As someone else noted earlier, Seattle's pass rush completely took Collins out of his game in the wild card game.

In hindsight, though, this shouldn't have been a surprise. Back before the beginning of this season, I re-watched our end of season run from last year. In the Dallas game (last game of the reg. season), Collins did not look very sharp, due in large part to the Cowboys' pass rush. I think a lot of we fans were probably so stoked about our late season resurgence that we didn't notice how the wheels were starting to loosen in that Dallas game. It shouldn't have been such a shock that the wheels fell all the way off against Seattle.

I'm sure the Seahawks watched the game tape from that Dallas game and grinned big when they saw the potential for disrupting Collins.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 17, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Probably true. But if I had the choice of taking one or the other, hands down it would be an improved o-line. Arizona is a juggernaut against poor teams. We'll see how they perform against the true competition (their 3 losses, the the Jets, to Carolina, and to us -- three winning teams with very good/great defenses). It will catch up to them eventually, especially when they play the likes of Carolina, Tampa, NYG, or us in the playoffs.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Arizona is alot like us: one-dimensional, but very good at that one dimension. Where Zona is a throwing juggernaut, we are a rushing juggernaut. Problem is that as the season wears on (and particularly in the playoffs), teams find a template to scheme against your one dimension. We are experiencing that. Zona has had the benefit of playing in the atrocious NFC West, but they too will experience it once they start seeing stronger teams.

Posted by: p1funk | November 17, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Every time I see Landry blitz, he takes this long loopy route around everyone and, of course, doesn't get there in time.

I don't expect the guy to be perfect. I did expect him to get to Barber when everyone in the stadium knew he was getting the ball. A good safety makes those plays.

The defense did a solid job compared to the offense. It's just easier to pinpoint the guys on D that can't play.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 17, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Anyone saying Collins is better than Campbell needs to stop following football... period. That's it just stop because you are actually mentally retarded and need help

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | November 17, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

LaRon is doing an average job but I see a bit of a 2nd year slump

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"The defense did a solid job compared to the offense. It's just easier to pinpoint the guys on D that can't play."

Really I think its easier to pinpoint the guys on offense who can't play... as in our ENTIRE Oline... and every wr not named Moss. Someone there needs to step up and get open.. and the oline needs to give campbell more than 3 seconds every single play. I mean seriously Jason took 3 step drops... released the ball and got hit every single time... thats not on him... thats not even ont he wr thats 100% on the boys up front... Samuels needs to sit down cause he can't play with his knee the way it is... Kendall is a bum.. always has been and will be... Rabach... nothing to say he blows.... Thomas was solid but 35 is old and his body is slowing down and Jansen hasn't been able to pass block since 2006, since he was hurt all last year....
I mean the D is not our problem. We have arguable the best 2ndary in the game and that's without the aid of any sort of dline helping them... and typically our D is great vrs the run, as we were 5th coming into that game...

Don't say anything about the last drive where Dallas ran all over us... Not only do they do that to EVERY team they are beating in the 4th quarter... but our defense had been getting no help and had been ont he field the entire game... they have every right to get tired and down after that TERRRRRRRRIBLE 4th down attempt with 6 minutes to go

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | November 17, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

we have a young, STUPID, SS in Horton who still has to learn how to cover and play SS at an NFL level... We can't use landry the way we used Taylor because we don't have a reliable option out there as a safety valve other than him... so back off the kid and watch as he becomes a star... fool

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | November 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

#48 is anything but stupid...did you notice Romo audibling away from him every time on those pitches?

Posted by: P00P | November 17, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

LaRon is fine. People need to remember Sean Taylor was bit of a knucklehead his first couple years (it seemed like he got a 15 yard personal foul just about every week at one point) and was just getting it together before he died. If you expect #30 to be Ronnie Lott right away you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I think given his experience level and production he's doing a fine job.

How many big pass plays have our defense given up this year? Alright then...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

If you're out there saying Landry isn't a player, then quite frankly you have no idea what his job is in this defense.

Horton plays up front. Landry plays centerfield.

How many big plays have been made against the Redskins down the field?

Very few.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 17, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I agree Horton is not dumb, but he is a roookie and makes 1-2 rookie mistakes a game. But overall the man does fine.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

If Horton is the problem then we've got issues cause he's the only dude on the team you really can't complain about. Dudes done nothing but be a baller. Talk about a guy who plays full speed and lays his body on the line. He got beat on that one TD but made plenty of plays as well.

Posted by: Gweez | November 17, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Stupid,

If Horton is stupid for getting beat, when he actually had good coverage.

Then every CB and saftey in the league is stupid because they have all been beaten on several occasions.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Really I think its easier to pinpoint the guys on offense who can't play... as in our ENTIRE Oline... and every wr not named Moss."

The O-line is collectively bad. At times, they individually have good games. Other teams get more out of lesser WRs. But Moss HAS to catch that ball.

On the defense, it's easy. Golston, Carter, Landry, and Taylor can't play. The CBs are playing great and picking up the slack for these guys.

Posted by: Joe_in_Raleigh | November 17, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Guys face it WE SUCK! HATC!

Posted by: rlomax67 | November 17, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

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