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Blache and Zorn and Some Further Explainin'

I believe the phrase Greg Blache used to express his dissafisfaction with the way the defense played Sunday was "south end of a northbound skunk." Jason Reid takes a look at Blache and the D. And Dan Steinberg has today's take from Jim Zorn on "The Thing that Happened with Clinton Portis."

By Cindy Boren  |  October 28, 2008; 11:49 AM ET
 
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Dealer - I was talking about the Rising Yen, not the chinese Yaun.

But, I was talking about China's cash flow.....

Beware of the Rising Yen. Google it if you want......

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 28, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Blanche = hilarious!

Posted by: charley42 | October 28, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, I can't keep up with all these new posts.

With the Steelers starting CB and perhaps starting Safety out, and with Moss hopefully healthy, I say attack down the field in the passing game. Just have to make sure pass protection is up to par.

Posted by: ga8085 | October 28, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

How about defensive MVP goes to Greg Blache! That guy came into a really tough situation and has put a great defense on the field this season, injuries and all.

Posted by: isnadd | October 28, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What more do yall want, seriously?

Posted by: TheTruth11

I want a team manager that properly prioritizes its "needs" or positions.

WR/TE should be one of the last areas that are addressed, in my opinion. Future needs/depth are MUCH more important at offensive line and defensive line. And in comparison, LB was a much larger future need than WR/TE as well.

Santana Moss is 29. Randle el is 29. Cooley is 26.

By comparison, London Fletcher is 33. Marcus Washington is 31. Rocky Macintosh was coming off a career threatening knee injury (and is a player with chronic knee problems). Phillip Daniels is 35. Cornelius Griffin is 31. Chris Samuels is 31. Jon Jansen is 32. Casey Rabach is 31. Randy Thomas is 32. Pete Kendall is 35.

You know how many players were chosen in the draft to address the future of the guys above? Two. And one of them was chosen in the 7th round. Instead, we opted to choose THREE guys in the 2nd round to protect the future of three guys that are an average of 28.33 years old.

I give Cerrato major marks for choosing Zorn. That was a brilliant pick. But in my opinion, his draft was bad when the selections were made (just the simple choice of positions vs. need) and are looking worse in current review of the team (considering the impact the rookies have had so far).

Posted by: spizzle | October 28, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: spizzle | October 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell is out of football but still could be more of a reliable WR at this point than the rookies.

Posted by: ga8085 | October 28, 2008 10:55 AM

Let's see. Reche Caldwell, zero catches this season. Thanks, but each of the rookies has had a better year than he has. And each of them has a more promising future.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

How about changing Rogers nickname from Double Move to Butterfingers?

Posted by: charley42 | October 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I second that, nadds.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 28, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

isnadd, "came into a really tough situation" makes it sound like Blache came from outside.

He came in with Grilliams, was here for four years before taking over this season. Yeah, the neverending Grilliams HC interview cycle was a weird situation, and Blache was planning to retire and had to be lured back, but prior to that he was very much a part of this team.

Just sayin' is all... don't rickroll me, bro!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 28, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

China will soon be the leader of the world once they start using they're cash flow............

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 28, 2008 10:58 AM |

Using it for what? This was Dan Snyder's theory of power -- buying a Super Bowl when he bought the 'Skins: Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Deion Sanders.

You can't be the leader of the world when your average income is less that $1000 per person and your economy is based on exporting inferior goods at subsidized prices. China's leadership is a long ways in the future, if ever.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

My midseason team awards:

Offensive MVP: Clinton Portis. I'm taking the flip side of JLC's argument; I'm not sure JC is still without INT and playing so well if the threat of getting gashed by CP isn't there. Hope he stays healthy; he's on pace for almost 375 carries.

Defensive MVP: London Fletcher. His importance won't always make the box score, and he's my vote for MVP of the D as long as he's playing here.

Comeback player of the year: Carlos Rogers. Coming back from a knee injury and playing the best ball of his career is huge. Especially in a year where Springs can't seem to stay healthy. All he has to do is spend some time with the jugs machine and he might actually be a Pro-Bowler.

Rookie of the year: Malcolm Kelly. Just kidding. It's obviously Chris Horton and pretty much by default.

If Jim Zorn isn't Coach of the Year (at least for the first half of it), I don't know who is. He took over for a playoff team from a Hall of Fame legend and is doing far better things with the team Gibbs built. Not to mention the Skins are a legit playoff contender in the toughest division/conference in the league.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

If Jim Zorn isn't Coach of the Year (at least for the first half of it), I don't know who is.

Posted by: brownwood26

You could make the argument that Mike Smith or Tony Sparano get that. I love Zorn and think he's done amazing so far, but NOBODY expected the Falcons or Dolphins to be where they are, not even the fans of those teams.

Posted by: spizzle | October 28, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I think my vote for most disappointing Redskin in the first half of the year is Laron Landry. The guy just shows no commitment to realizing the potential that his talent affords him. If he worked, practiced, and played with Carols Rogers' new-found zeal he could be tops at his position in the league. Now, he seems like just another guy who's substituting talent for work leveraging talent with work.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 28, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Thank you spizzle, some sanity on the board, well thought out well defended post that I'm sure the wait and see crowd will hate.

Question to that FOR THE LAST TIME WAIT AND SEE CROWD, what do we do next year? We are going to have to replace the following:

Kendall (knees)
Springs (contract/injury prone)
Griffin (ibid)
Washington (ibid)
Jansen (Heyer much younger/cheaper/equal production, but Heyer starting means we need another tackle as a backup)

We will still have depth issues at LB, Corner, Safety, Dend, Dtackle and oline and we will only have 4 picks. Since we can only expect production for draft picks to produce after they've been in the league for like 10 years according to you guys do we go back to signing a bunch of free agents since we have little to no young talent at any of those positions because we ignored them and filled out our depth with late round/undrafted/guys off the street?

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

"good to see cL on keyboard, tone, and convo patrol... again... thank you for all you do."

What did I do now?

question though: what brand of cigars do you have?

blunts

Posted by: chrislarry | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I want a team manager that properly prioritizes its "needs" or positions.

Posted by: spizzle | October 28, 2008 12:10 PM

My guess is that they did prioritize their "needs" and positions. What they forgot to do is ask your opinion of what their "needs" and positions were. Or Jack's for that matter.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Thank you spizzle, some sanity on the board, well thought out well defended post that I'm sure the wait and see crowd will hate.

Question to that FOR THE LAST TIME WAIT AND SEE CROWD, what do we do next year? We are going to have to replace the following:

Kendall (knees)
Springs (contract/injury prone)
Griffin (ibid)
Washington (ibid)
Jansen (Heyer much younger/cheaper/equal production, but Heyer starting means we need another tackle as a backup)

We will still have depth issues at LB, Corner, Safety, Dend, Dtackle and oline and we will only have 4 picks. Since we can only expect production for draft picks to produce after they've been in the league for like 10 years according to you guys do we go back to signing a bunch of free agents since we have little to no young talent at any of those positions because we ignored them and filled out our depth with late round/undrafted/guys off the street?

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. move it along. stay nimble. and medium.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | October 28, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about Thomas or Kelly. They're both rookies.

Thomas has 5 catches (and 1 TD that was called back on a Stephon Heyer penalty).

In his rookie year, after 8 games Jerry Rice had 18 catches and 1 TD.

Conversely, through 8 games Donnie Avery has 20 catches and 2 TDs.

Guess that makes Avery the next Jerry Rice?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 28, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

answer the question then Curzon417? how do we plug the holes? Free agency again? Or do we just not care because we're 6-2.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 28, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

My guess is that they did prioritize their "needs" and positions. What they forgot to do is ask your opinion of what their "needs" and positions were. Or Jack's for that matter.

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM

Agreed, I know all the future GM's on this blog think they know what they are talking about, but really n one of us no sh!t about what teams really need or why they do what they do.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 28, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I have stayed medium all morning long.

Let's hope it last through the rest of the day. Seriously; Today (MVP, Rankings, Contract Extension Talks) = Power Rankings = 'America's' Team

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 28, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap you guys actually used my suggestion to move the sign to the side, nice. I was actually thinking the sign would be a little more squarish but it definitely looks a lot better now than the floating head did. Well done.

Posted by: RiggoisDrunk | October 28, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Question to that FOR THE LAST TIME WAIT AND SEE CROWD, what do we do next year? We are going to have to replace the following:

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 28, 2008 12:35 PM |

Jack,

Whoa, hoss, you're getting ahead of yourself. On Redskins Insider, Tuesday is the day to pointlessly consider last year's draft. So your criticism would be well-timed today.

Wednesday is the day to pointlessly speculate about next year's draft. These discussions are very philososphical since we don't have any idea of our draft position, the available talent pool, who we pick in free agency, and how our roster looks at the end of the season. Since everything is a mystery it's a good place for clueless boobs to shine. We're all experts!

But, not today. Wait until tomorrow. Today, we'd like to read more of your interesting insights on this year's draft class, most of whom (like most draft classes around the league) haven't played sufficient downs to even recognize their numbers. And, of course, the fact that they haven't played, well that's a sure sign, isn't it?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 28, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Kendall (knees)
Springs (contract/injury prone)
Griffin (ibid)
Washington (ibid)
Jansen (Heyer much younger/cheaper/equal production, but Heyer starting means we need another tackle as a backup)

You could find these people in house on this team.

Kendall - The rook from this year. FA to PS.

Springs - Smoot, Richardson off PS as 4th corner, need to draft CB or get vet FA.

Griffin - Monty, D. Evans, need to draft DT

Washington - Blades, need to draft LB

Jansen - Need to draft LT. D Clake off PS as wing tackle.

Posted by: TWISI | October 28, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 28, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I would say an emphatic no to free agency unless it is a young stud that won't greatly impact your salary cap and that's probably not gonna happen that being said given where this team might finish we will more than likely draft somewhere between 24-32 so we need to address the O and D line,maybe London's got another year or two left in the tank we're set at safety maybe we need another CB. A running back with breakaway speed(no knock on CP/LB)there's a center at Kent State 6-3/310 who just might slip to the 2nd round very well thought of by coach's in his conference.Where is Durant Brooks has anyone picked him up yet?.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I would say an emphatic no to free agency unless it is a young stud that won't greatly impact your salary cap and that's probably not gonna happen that being said given where this team might finish we will more than likely draft somewhere between 24-32 so we need to address the O and D line,maybe London's got another year or two left in the tank we're set at safety maybe we need another CB. A running back with breakaway speed(no knock on CP/LB)there's a center at Kent State 6-3/310 who just might slip to the 2nd round very well thought of by coach's in his conference.Where is Durant Brooks has anyone picked him up yet?.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

yen= japanese currency
yuan= chinese currency

Posted by: dealer1 | October 28, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

dollar = power rankings

Posted by: SMACK1 | October 28, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Well it has been two weeks since Brooks was cut and Plackemeier brought it. So where is the improvement? The Rookie Brooks in his 6 games still has better stats than the "Seasoned Veteran" Plackemeier. But then again Brooks was not one of the JZ boys from Seattle.

Posted by: GaDawg | October 29, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

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