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Blache: Ravens Fun to Watch, Not to Play

Jason Reid reports:

The Baltimore Ravens rank second in the NFL in total defense, second in passing defense and yield the third-fewest yards rushing.

"They have one of the finer defenses in the league, not just this year but for the last, I don't know, five, 10 years," defensive coordinator Greg Blache said before practice at Redskins Park. "I think them along with Pittsburgh are the elite of our league defensively. I think those two teams, you watch 'em play, you have to appreciate it. Any defensive coach looks at it and you go, 'Wow.'

"These guys, they hit you, they run to the ball, they play with consistency, they play with a sense of urgency. They just smother offenses. They're fun to watch. I don't think they'll be a lot of fun on Sunday night to watch. But they're fun to watch when you're just looking at tape because they are exceptional."

By Cindy Boren  |  December 4, 2008; 2:10 PM ET
 
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Wouldn't mind adding another team to that list, Greg!

Posted by: daggar | December 4, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"What QB has he helped bring up the ranks?"

Just the lowly Matt Hasselbeck from 6th round pick backup to pro-bowl quarterback.

Posted by: psps23 | December 4, 2008 2:07 PM

I disagree to a point. Yeah helped him. BUT, Hassalbaeck's father was in the NFL before (which means he had a certain level of NFL intelligance instilled in him from the get go). Zorn didn't get with him until his 4th year (I believe).

I think it was as much their head coach as it was their QB coach.

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I never respond to Cork, but after reading your post, I know you do not follow Ravens Football. And I'm sorry Cindy put herself out there to agree with you.

1. Their OLine was called young and inexperinced before the season started and ours was called great. Now, it's the opposite for both.

2. No one was calling our OLine Elderly, smallish. Not JLac, not anybody.

3. You're making up excuses for the players like your name was V Cerrato.

4. The 'Experts' all said that the Ravens WR sucked last year. Now they're Greeeat!

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

... and his sister-in-law has clearly helped him with the acting in commercials and maps, such as,

Posted by: daggar | December 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I thought Cindy was agreeing with hating the beepage!

Posted by: daggar | December 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

and his dealings with the Iraqi people and such as the Africans

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I thought Cindy was agreeing with hating the beepage!

Posted by: daggar | December 4, 2008 2:22 PM

Then I apologize.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Is the offensive line the problem? Or is the general "scheme" that we are trying to run the problem? Smith and Harbaugh brought in VERY experienced OC's...we've got....umm yeah.

Point is, the OL COULD be better, and Campbell COULD be better too! Heck, Kelly and Thomas COULD be better as well...but the point is...EVERYONE is having trouble with DIFFERENT aspects of this offense to some degree.

This team, and the personal that Jim Zorn inherited, deserved to be treated better by Vinny and Danny. At this point in their careers, they shouldn't have been asked to learn a different system...an OC should have been hired that could have taken aspects of different offenses and blended them with the personal.

Each week, JZ and the players ask for patience...and comment on execution. Well, it hasn't been there.

And I for one, don't believe that the personal on the offensive side of the ball can incorporate the WC, nor should they have been asked too.

Posted by: dbussjd | December 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

4th -- I called the o-line old. And vulnerable. 2 years ago, I made the rather flippant suggstion that the Skins use 100% of their picks on o-line -- knowing that the current group were getting older, that their play would start to decline and that injuries happen.

That was before Kendall, and he bought us a bit of time. But hasn't changed the basic issue.

I estimate that it takes about 10-15 lineman picks to get 5. If you look at the jints OL, no #1 picks ... and 2 undrafted guys. Its an odds game. There is a lot of hit and miss on picking o-line, but you have to bring a lot of guys thru.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

What, no fantasy football posts yet?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | December 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I looked back at the Portis 4th down run from the jints game. What an awful play. Jansen had 2 guys he could have blocked. Knowing the play was going to the middle, hit the guy closest to the play. Not rocket science. Jansen looked confused and hit no one. The guy just blew right past Jansen and made the play.

Which is exactly what I wouldn't expect for my veteran who is in there for his run blocking.

When Zorn said execution, I'm guessing its plays like that he's talking about.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Is the offensive line the problem? Or is the general "scheme" that we are trying to run the problem? Smith and Harbaugh brought in VERY experienced OC's...we've got....umm yeah.

Point is, the OL COULD be better, and Campbell COULD be better too! Heck, Kelly and Thomas COULD be better as well...but the point is...EVERYONE is having trouble with DIFFERENT aspects of this offense to some degree.

This team, and the personal that Jim Zorn inherited, deserved to be treated better by Vinny and Danny. At this point in their careers, they shouldn't have been asked to learn a different system...an OC should have been hired that could have taken aspects of different offenses and blended them with the personal.

Each week, JZ and the players ask for patience...and comment on execution. Well, it hasn't been there.

And I for one, don't believe that the personal on the offensive side of the ball can incorporate the WC, nor should they have been asked too.

Posted by: dbussjd | December 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse


Imho,it's not the blocking scheme or learning the wco...i just look at the one play where portis is running up the middle on fourth and 1, and is hit two yards behind the line becouse jansen didn't bother to block anyone becouse the play wasn't coming in his direction. that and the first giants touchdown(extra point) where they bobble the snap and no ones is rushing when it would have been an easy block....they just don't want it,now whose fault is that?i don't know but something has got to change..

Posted by: jumbo5383 | December 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

sorry zcezcest1,you made my point 1 post earlier

Posted by: jumbo5383 | December 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"If you look at the jints OL, no #1 picks ... and 2 undrafted guys."

This is the exception more than the rule. Most other "great" lines in the league have been anchored by top a 1st or 2nd round pick (at least).

Seattle from a couple years ago:
Walter Jones - round 1, pick 6
Steve Hutchinson - round 1, pick 17

New England last year:
Matt Light - 2nd round
Logan Mankins - 1st round
Nick Kaszur - 3rd round

Indianapolis during their prime offensive years were anchored by Tarik Glenn - 1st round.

Rams during their prime offensive years: anchored by Orlando Pace.

Chiefs during the Priest Holmes assault years:
Willie Roaf - 1st round
John Tait - 1st round
Will Shields - 3rd round

The Redskins cannot be afraid to take linemen high - very high. Although I agree quantity is also necessary. I would be all for a 4-man offensive line draft this offseason.

Posted by: psps23 | December 4, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

What no one recognizes is that the teams that have been eating the Skins' lunch recently all have strong GMs who are committed to the draft and who don't panic and deal away picks when a starter goes down. At some point, Vinny Cerrato has to asked to justify putting tgether this depthless, slow, old roster. And Zorn can't say anything but 'hip hip hooray' as he signed on to guide a ship where he can't select the pirates. Cry all you want about the o-line, back ups, the draft class, etc, but until the personnel acquisition department improves, your tears and whining won't stop. If anything, the past 10 years have done nothing but prove this point. I love the Skins, but they're a franchise that's chasing its own tail.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

(Just to annoy Cork and Cindy)

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Vinny has done a poor job in all of his personnel roles with the Redskins for the last 8 years. Except for 2000 when he was handed the No. 2 and 3 picks by Casserly which resulted in Arrington and Samuels, we haven't drafted well or kept our picks. We haven't drafted D-Line or O-Line talent high in any draft since 2000 and always signed veteran FA's. That plan continued under Joe Gibbs who traded No.3 draft picks for guys named Lloyd and Duckett. This had continued with the trades the last two years for Kendall and Taylor to plug holes. Our only drafted, developed, and young O-Lineman Derrick Dockery is now in Buffalo instead of here because we failed to sign re-sign him.

Until Vinny goes and is replaced with a real football GM, this franchise is doomed. I trace a lot of the personnel problems to Snyder's early decision to let Casserly go and replace him with Vinny. IF Snyder ever wises up and cuts ties with Vinny, this team may eventually develop a long-term plan that will upgrade the roster and return the Skins to being an annual playoff team.

As a long-time Skins fan who saw Gibbs V1, this has been 15+ years of disappointment.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 4, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

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