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Blades to Have Knee Surgery

Linebacker H.B. Blades, who sprained his left knee in this morning's practice, will undergo arthroscopic surgery this week, according to a Redskins source with knowledge of the situation. The exact nature of the injury is not certain, but the source expects Blades to be out at least two-to-three weeks, returning toward the end of preseason.

The loss of Blades, however briefly, leaves the team thin at linebacker. Blades and Khary Campbell are competing to back up London Fletcher at middle linebacker, essentially the defense's quarterback. Blades is also a special-teams standout. With Washington's starting linebackers no longer performing much special teams duty, the Redskins are looking for capable backups who can also excel on special teams.

Blades will be the fifth Redskin to have surgery since camp began eight days ago. He joins Phillip Daniels, Alex Buzbee, Anthony Montgomery and Rian Wallace

The only other new injury was to running back Eric Shelton, who had been bothered by a shoulder stinger. He was being evaluated for what may be a neck injury.

By Cindy Boren  |  July 28, 2008; 7:17 PM ET
 
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Comments

RC - Got it. I'm locked up.

Bong!

Posted by: 4th | July 28, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

hah!

Posted by: not first this time | July 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Hoookay, maybe LB depth is becoming an issue.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I meant locked in! Those bong hits are dousies.......

Posted by: 4th | July 28, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

doozies.

Posted by: Cindy | July 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

These injuries are getting out of control. If we didn't have bad luck we'd have no luck at all......

Posted by: dlhaze | July 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Man, this injury bug is annoying! Anyone know a good site to track this for other teams as well?

Posted by: Dik | July 28, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

The Truth wants to join a fantasy league! The Truth wants to know what he has to do to get accepted so The Truth can dominate?

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Not Eric Shelton!!

Cindy

I have a special piece you could look into after the HOF stuff dies down. Ever think of having JLC and a medical reporter break down this injury thing? Look at whats happening and some medical whatnots and such as'is

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

It seems like we have the same "bad luck" every year, particularly the last few camps. I'm fairly certain that Snyder's willingness to spend top dollar on the Skins applies to our medical and training staff and facilities, so what gives? JLC? Any thoughts?

Posted by: Fan Man | July 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

REPOSTED, OF COURSE....

++++For some reason you seem to think that every running play will be directed at him - and only him - for every down he plays. Why is that? And if they bring a safety up to the line if that's going on, what then? Still can't stop them?

If they aren't trying to double-team JT it's probably a running play, so you might actually get some 'clues' from the offensive formations. But presumably no-one will read those....

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 11:49 AM++++


Good post, but actually did DID NOT say that. If I implied it, let me clarify. What i said was, having two light DE's as the Redskins do, two DE's who mostly use an outside rush, opens up the OFF-TACKLE running game for the opponent.

That doesn't happen if the defense has one (primarilly) pass-rushing DE, and one adroit at stuffing the run. With that setup, you can adjust your defense to stop a run between the DT and the pass rushing DE. Remember how that was a great weakness of Carter's? In the Redskins case, they adjusted to "protect" Carter and let him rush, which is his primary skill.

Most of the time one DT plays off the center, while the other one plays outside shoulder of the other guard. That guy "protects" the pass rushing DE.

When you have TWO relative lightweight, pass-rushing defensive ends, however, the offense can chose to run either side, and will simply run toward the DE who is NOT being protected by overshifted DTs, a safety moving up, or a MLB cheating over.

Sure, it's a chess game, and the 'skins will adjust to that. I personally think Blache will use Evans more on running plays and put Taylor at LB. He may end up using Taylor like the 'skins did with Washington last year, (and with Lavar before that.)

That protects Taylor, it allows rotation in the VERY thin LB corps, and of course, the OFFENSE now must game plan where Taylor will line up on each play.

Remember, too, Carter played a game at LEFT DE last year, against the Vikings, so he didn't have to go against 335 pound all pro McKinnon. I would NOT be surprised if Carter has some snaps at LDE with Taylor at RDE.

THAT could drive a OLT crazy.

One thing I hadn't really mentioned, was pointed out by former player Ross Tucker. Go to Sports Illustrated.com and see how he points out the difficulties Taylor might experience this year, particularly playing LEFT defensive end.

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

RC I will try to get to it tonight no later than tomorrow

Posted by: jm220 | July 28, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The Truth also wants to know where he can find the transcript from the chat.

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Let me save you guys the trouble...

Dang, Corkczar, you're nothing but a pompous Know-it-all!

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Do we have enough players to field a bunch of "5th stringers" who can play Sunday night? We're gonna need 'em.

Posted by: dlhaze | July 28, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

part of the reason for all the injuries is because strenght and conditioning coaches have started to focus more on strenght than conditioning. their muscles are getting bigger but there is no muscle endurance therefore making it easier to suffer hammy's and other soft tissue injuries.

I am not a doctor but I did stay at a holiday Inn express last night.

Posted by: Great One | July 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Bad luck isn't even the word for this madness

Posted by: jm220 | July 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This isn't madness... THIS IS SPARTA.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah - are we suffering an abnormal number of injuries this preseason or is it simply the added coverage that makes it seem that way???

Posted by: Mike | July 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Truth, Its out there. and by there I mean the chat transcrip is up on the sight

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/07/25/DI2008072501665.html

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

i just think fans stopped praying...

Posted by: dealer | July 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

What's up RI?....

I went to practice this morning and I had VIP access so it was great to get up and close with the players. Here's what I saw today...

1) All of this talk about starting Collins over Campbell should cease. If you would have seen Collins....he was god-awful. The pace of the offense seemed to fast for him and at times he looked confused.

2) Campbell looked sharp. His passes had touch and he hit for a couple of nice deep balls.

3) James Thrash continues to make the case for the 6th receiver. He hauled in a couple of TD's today.

4) ARE is a small guy. He's smaller than Moss. Moss is more ripped than I thought, but man is that dude fast!!!

5) Zorn is not afraid to turn up the heat and get in guys faces.

6) Devon Thomas was the only azz out of the group when it came to autograhps. He didn't sign and even got a bit testy when he was pushed to sign by a PR person. He's better not drop any passes this year.

7) The speed of this game is incredible, especially on defense.

8) Justin Tryon might be smaller than Darrell Green. That kid is little!

9) Don't mean to jinx, but God help us if Campbell goes down.

Posted by: sicwidit | July 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

i just think fans stopped praying...

Posted by: dealer | July 28, 2008 1:25 PM


LOL!!!

Posted by: Not Anonymous | July 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

All of the criticism of how the Skins fan appreciation day was not handled well by the team is a bit unfair to the team. In 2000 they had bleacher seats, a cool kids area, parking attendants, and just a real nice overall set-up. Then for years after the Post blasted Snyder because he charged an entrance fee and called the whole thing a disaster. I'd rather pay $10 and have the amenities, but it was the local media that pressured the Skins to drop the fee.

Posted by: PowerBoater | July 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Truth, Its out there. and by there I mean the chat transcrip is up on the sight

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/07/25/DI2008072501665.html

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 1:23 PM

That was hilarious 35.

Truth I think our FF is full isn't it RC?

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah - are we suffering an abnormal number of injuries this preseason or is it simply the added coverage that makes it seem that way???

Posted by: Mike | July 28, 2008 1:21 PM

After seeing how little these guys stretched on Sunday it's no wonder they're all pulling muscles. Broken bones and torn ligaments aside, unless they stretch inside before they hit the practice field someone needs to change the way things are being done at RP. 5 minutes of stretching obviously isn't doing the trick. My high school squad spent about 15 minutes doing the warm up routine and hardly ever had pulled muscles. Hmmm...

Posted by: [cc] | July 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

9) Don't mean to jinx, but God help us if Campbell goes down.

Posted by: sicwidit | July 28, 2008 1:26 PM

Not a problem. Two words: Brett Favre.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

i'm not a doctor but does anyone think that maybe we get so many hamstring injuries is because we are practicing outdoors in the heat and maybe if we were indoors it wouldn't be so bad?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

no

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Man, just got back after vacation...solitary...Anyways, my boy Jason Campbell is gonna be a beast this year, unless he starts throwing too many picks...then I'll have to get out that colon shank!

Posted by: Prison Balls | July 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

I think that may be part of it. Looking at an overhead of the facilities on the Google Earth, there is room for a single field domed practice facility. But those pictures are a few years old I am guessing. None the less I would be for it. The Eagles built one and said it helped the players there. also its good for practicing before going into a loud place with a dome or roofed in sections because you pipe in noise to force players to get used to not hearing eachother like say Dallas, & Seattle.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The Truth says it would be a great idea to pansy The Redskins up by putting them in a dome. The Truth sarcastically says that air conditioning is very important for NFL players.

The Truth says to give him a break!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The Truth posts the follow link :

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/07/28/space.tourism.ap/index.html


The Truth says that the real population will now see the alien spacestation built on the dark side of the moon!!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I am not saying put them in a Dome stadium. But that having an indoor practice filed to uses as an option durring the high heat or a lightning storm or something.

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes I wonder if it's not their pre practice preparation being the cause of injuries. You never see them really streching well before practice... just jogging and warm up group streches that sometimes players do lazily or not at all ( you see them talking on TV while everyone else is streching..)

I would imagine that a hard individual streching sesson where you have a partner to push your legs and strech you out more than you could by yourself would help them. You would just take for granted that an NFL team would have the latest and best injury prevention regimine but I never see this kind of streching on TV during warm ups and this is imperative to injury prevention.

Posted by: cwprice | July 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I think that may be part of it. Looking at an overhead of the facilities on the Google Earth, there is room for a single field domed practice facility. But those pictures are a few years old I am guessing. None the less I would be for it. The Eagles built one and said it helped the players there. also its good for practicing before going into a loud place with a dome or roofed in sections because you pipe in noise to force players to get used to not hearing eachother like say Dallas, & Seattle.
Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 1:52 PM

I'm sure Holmgren is smart enough to keep his D on hand signals.....since the god's gift to fandom "12th man" takes pride on being so loud that the offense can't hear themselves in the huddle. It would be pretty funny if the Seahawk LB's had to ask the crowd to quiet down every play.....

Posted by: dlhaze | July 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

REPOSTED, OF COURSE:

Taking Corkczar's Vikings quote out of context to facilitate a spurious Jason Taylor post. Again....

JT vs. Vikings, November 2006...

1.0 sacks, 2x forced fumbles, 1x INT returned for TD (51 yards)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8010345b

(JT's INT touchdown is at the end of the clip, interesting for defensive afficionados)

Note what Brad Johnson says in the 'recap' tab about JT 'reading' the whole play (a screen to Chester Taylor).

I posted the other day that in 2005 and 2006 Saban had JT lining up on both sides as well as lining up as a linebacker. If you guys do the same, he will wreak havoc...

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:03 PM

Also, Truth, we have all the slots taken at present but email me at usredcoat at gmail dot come if you'd like to be on the wait list. And no, it's not nearly as long as the apocryphally long Redskins ticket one....

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Holmgren sends in playcalls via-mustach signal

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The Truth asks redcoat if The Truth has to speak in 3rd person in his email? The Truth will send an email tonight.

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody tell me what play Holmgren is calling on this one?

http://oldstersview.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/mustache.jpg

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

The Truth asks redcoat if The Truth has to speak in 3rd person in his email? The Truth will send an email tonight.

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 2:23 PM

Cool. 1st, 2nd, 3rd; it's all the same to we.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody tell me what play Holmgren is calling on this one?
http://oldstersview.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/mustache.jpg
Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:25 PM

Twin Curl Out.

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I believe Holmgren is calling for Dorothy to go right, zoom past the Wicked Witch and catch the Scarecrow's pass to the Emerald City Bowl on New Year's Day

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Redcoat requires that all address him in the 1st person pluperfect style

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

sicwidit, keep up the great updates. good stuff

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I believe Holmgren is calling for Dorothy to go right, zoom past the Wicked Witch and catch the Scarecrow's pass to the Emerald City Bowl on New Year's Day

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 2:31 PM


lol

Posted by: jm220 | July 28, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Which is more likely to happen this season?

1) Devin Thomas scores on a punt return
2) Carlos Rodgers intercepts a pass
3) An OL blows his achillies
4) Zorn takes over at QB

Posted by: The Question Man | July 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Is the Emerald City bowl the lamest of all the Bowls or is that just my opinion? I mean outside the Orange, Rose, Cotton, BSCC, and a few others I know most are kinda lame.

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Is the Emerald City bowl the lamest of all the Bowls or is that just my opinion?

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 2:38 PM

My pet peeve is the Punch Bowl; someone always poops in it.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

In order of most likely

1
3
4
2

No chance that Double Move intercepts a pass.

Posted by: Da Truef | July 28, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Da Truef,
Um we play the NFC West and Baltimore. Thats 4-5 QB's he should be able to get a pick off of.

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, thanks again for the comments on Jason Taylor on the left side. I recalled Chris Doleman and his struggles to swap -- and SF wisely ended that experiment after a handful of games.

Some may recall Wilbur Marshall. Great player for the Bears who came to DC. With Darrell Green blanketing WRs one on one, the Skins had the equivalent of a 12 man defense. Which left Marshall to do a lot of freelancing. Almost like a guy without a position.

With Jason Taylor, I'm wondering if the Skins will try to do something similar. Use him as DE on both sides, and as a free lancing LB.

Of course, my wish (which may not be smart football) would be to have him play safety with LL. No one would go over the middle of the field wondering which beast was going to rip them.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

SHOULD is the key word there... he should have had 5 last year...

Posted by: AKA | July 28, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Emerald City bowl gets kind of wicked when the West team breaks out its special flying monkey defense.

Posted by: John D in Houston | July 28, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Having balls hit him in the hands has no bearing on it. The man has hands of stone.

Posted by: Da Truef | July 28, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts for more likely to happen...

1) Devin HESTER scores on a punt return
2) Carlos Monzon intercepts a pass (I know he's dead but he's still more likely to do it than "stone hands")
3) Rearrange 'Achilles', 'blowing', 'lineman' and 'offensive' to suit your lifestyle -- not that there's anything wrong with that
4) Zorn takes over as Owner

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Carlos should always be the first guy in 'tip drill'

Posted by: AKA | July 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I know all these injuries are pretty minor but so many at once is disconcerting. Bumps and bruises happen when you have 10 training camp practices than everyone else, but we still need SOME players that will actually be on the roster out there on Saturday. Even if they are backups.

Posted by: Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC) | July 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Any time Al, Z, ...

I really think that if JT had stayed in Miami that's exactly the role they would have had him play in this year. It would allow them to shift between 4-3 and 3-4 whenever they like without needing any new personnel on the field.

And because JT reads plays so well, it could free London Fletcher-Butcher-Baker-Candlestickmaker to make even more plays too.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Carlos should be the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ... & last player in the tip drill!

Posted by: Lipty | July 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I sit out in the snow for hours on end in freezing temperatures surrounded by sick kids sneezing on me and I can't even catch a cold.

Posted by: Carlos Rogers | July 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I sit out in the snow for hours on end in freezing temperatures surrounded by sick kids sneezing on me and I can't even catch a cold.

Posted by: Carlos Rogers | July 28, 2008 2:58 PM


Actually, the cold dodges him with a double move.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

++++sicwidit, keep up the great updates. good stuff

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 2:33 PM+++


Let me second that emotion. It's great to get other, informed perspectives.

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse


The silence regarding Blades "sprained" knee is ominous. Why haven't we heard good news yet?

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I guess we will all see what Collins look like come Sunday

Posted by: jm220 | July 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Quote from Todd Collins, via Jason Reid:

"I'm just trying to get on the same page with this offense. It's different. It's got a different rhythm. That's what training camp is for -- to get acclimated."

Posted by: Cindy | July 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Sarcasm Alert.... Sarcasm Alert....

Ya know, like the cerebral palsy alert commercials...

Posted by: AKA | July 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

And Zorn's take, courtesy Reid:

"Todd's got a little bit different factor to deal with," Zorn said of Collins's struggles to this point. "He's also dealing with the backup offensive line against our first defense, more often than any of the other quarterbacks, so that's one of the things.
"Secondly, we've got younger guys in with him and they're all learning. The thing that I love about Todd is he's very competitive. He wants to do it right. He knows what's he's doing. Sometimes things they don't happen for him down the field."

Posted by: Cindy | July 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I guess we shouldn't be surprised with Rinehart's performance. One of the pre-draft preview mags last year had him rated ahead of Jake Long, as top OT, I think

Also, with him playing ORT, he's getting lots of great experience trying to block JT.

This being the Redskins, home of the Injury Curse, I spose I should ask--what's the over/under on him blowing out a knee soon?

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

1st!!!!

Posted by: People who do this are annoying | July 28, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

if you already have an iphone (non 3g version) do not get the 3G version. the battery is attrociously bad. and the "commonsense" things that apple recommends to prolong the battery life is a complete joke!

1. to turn off 3G it's 4 clicks.
3. it momentarily puts the phone offline like for 10 seconds at a time. so imagine doing that about 10 times a day.
6. so you have to turn off "push", gps, 3g in order to save battery? and ohh i can't use the new apps either. so what is this phone good for over the old phone when i used to be able to watch videos from sfo to iad, 5 hour flight?

i'm returning mine today and hopefully in a year they'll do something about the battery life or at least not burry the 3G option so deep in the menu. $300 is a pretty steep price. i love my 2G iphone so much better.

Posted by: dealer | July 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

1st!!!!

Posted by: People who do this are annoying | July 28, 2008 3:17 PM

Yes....you are

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

CR wouldn't know the tip drill if it hit him in the numbers

Posted by: NFeKPo | July 28, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

today its Blades and Shelton (who?). Before that it was Montgomery and Wallace (who?). Before that, Daniels and Busbee (who?)

Seems like the phrase two-a-days has taken on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I felt that they turnd out the 3G too quickly when I first heard it was coming, usually Apple would have held off for more than a year between phones.

Posted by: 35332 | July 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: stumped | July 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Is this thing on?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I suspect Carlos Rogers won't be much of a CB. Major knee surgeries take a long time to recover from and Rogers won't be fully back this season.

Rogers was a marginal CB in his best days. I suspect a knee injury is more problematic for a CB than any other position. Its where quickness has at the biggest premium.

Does Rogers have other talents that could keep him at CB? Great tackler or run stopper? Not really. Great hands? I don't even have to answer that one. Super smart? Plays his guts out?

So what to do with Rogers?

Safety. But we have Landry, Schweigert and Dought already there and they are all good and young. Plus Springs may wind up at safety for his final seasons.

LB. His tackling isn't great, but maybe his agility could fit into some situations

PP (personal protector). Ummm, won't go there.

My guess is that Rogers finishes out his rookie contract and is gone ... or is gone before that. In any case, I doubt he'll ever make a major contribution to this team, let alone one that comes close to his draft pick status.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The Truth asks if the scrimmage will be streamed and/or televised!?!


Also, The Truth laughs at the futile attempts to keep him from the fantasy football league. The Truth is like a shark in the fact that he smells FEAR.

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The Truth also states that the Redskins Insider posters are WRONG in their hate for Carlos Rogers. The Truth says Rogers is a very solid player and WILL BE BACK, haters!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

why so serious?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Nate in the PDX says that you're welcome to Nate in the PDX's spot in the fantasy league, Truth, if you want to participate so badly. Nate in the PDX is an awful fantasy player and would happily give up Nate in the PDX's spot in the league to someone with such zeal.

The Truth is welcome to email Nate in the PDX at nateinthepdx at gmail dot com to discuss.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The Truth is very opinionated. Which is unlike the Truth except when it comes to GA, in which case The Truth sounds like The Truth after 11 cups of coffee.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Bubba Tyer, the team trainer, has been with the Skins 36 years. That's admirable and wonderful, but it begs the uncomfortable question -- with all these injuries, is it time to implement a 21st-century stretching/conditioning/hydration/yoga etc program?

Posted by: cali-snowboarder | July 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

There are 3 unconfirmed spots left in the fantasy league. At least one of those should get filled tomorrow, the remaining may come up for grabs very soon.

If The Truth remembers to email me at the previously provided address, (s)he will be first in line for an open slot and will therefore get the chance to back up his/her 3rd person belligerence with actual performance!! :)

Should be fun guys.

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

... is it time to implement a 21st-century stretching/conditioning/hydration/yoga etc program?

Posted by: cali-snowboarder | July 28, 2008 4:08 PM

Don't forget the obvious benefits of participation in off-season televised dancing contests!!

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

red, i wanna do it too! what's your address?

Posted by: dealer | July 28, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

JLC - Re: a comment from today's chat
"Not a whole lot of stability(Skin's QB position) since then, save for a few years of Brad Johsnon, before the owner ran him out of town.

Jason - thanks for your hard work at the park. But i'd like to remind everyone that Brad "ocd" johnson ran himself out of town. His arm was dead and his decision making abilities went out the window. The same thing happend with the vikings and Tampa. His first year with a new club was always impresive, but for whatever reason, the following season was as consistent. Johnson released some bad passes that 2nd year with the skins. Jeff George was not the answer and i'm NOT defending snyder(who shoud've kept a GM in place all along) along) but johnson's arm was toast. You've got to give johnson his due. He has a ring and a very solid career...But yeah, i agree, the skins QB position has not been stable since probably Theisman.

Who ran Trent Green out of town? Was that the whole Raljon thing or Mr. Snyder?

Posted by: Cowbama | July 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The Truth also states that the Redskins Insider posters are WRONG in their hate for Carlos Rogers. The Truth says Rogers is a very solid player and WILL BE BACK, haters!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:02 PM

This is one thing The Truth and I agree on. Carlos Rogers was(is) a very good corner, and one knee surgery does NOT kill an athlete's career - especially an athlete as young as he is.

Remember, Rogers was THE starting CB for the Redskins last year (until he got hurt), while Smoot and Springs rotated the opposite side/nickel package. I know we were spoiled by Champ Bailey for a while, but you can't expect every corner we draft to end up like him.

Posted by: psps23 | July 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

If Carlos Rogers ever learned to look back for the ball in the air while covering his man, he might be able to pick off a few passes. He ain't got game...

Posted by: BALLLL! | July 28, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

with all this talk of speakers in helmets, do you think that the league will allow carlos to wear a visor with prescription medicine in it. I mean that joker cant see for nothing.

Prescription visors are not against the rules

Posted by: Great One | July 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Soooo...better to get the injuries "out of the way" in training camp right? Right? right? awww crap.

Posted by: Ben | July 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

guess we shouldn't be surprised with Rinehart's performance. One of the pre-draft preview mags last year had him rated ahead of Jake Long, as top OT, I think

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 3:16 PM

Was this the one from Marvel Comics or from NORML?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

A couple of other thoughts from training camp this morning when I went.

1) Chris Samuels is a HUGE man!!! His girlfriend was there today with a birthday cake and balloons. She is a very SMALL woman but very attractive(I'ma leave that one alone)

2) Billy McMullen looked good. The guy is a BIG receiver and he caught a TD over Smooty.

3) The players that spent the most time signing autographs:

Betts, Marcus Washington, JC, Smoot (Rock Star! Kids screamed for him all day!), Torrence, Reinhaart, Kendall, Carter, Springs, Jansen, Rabach, Brennan, Randle-El

4) Springs seems like a great guy. He went out of his way to get as many kids as he could.

5) Players that didn't sign- Cooley, Sellars, Blades (limping), Portis (signed a couple but he's such a icon, he had to be escorted due to a mob scene.

6) Marcus Mason hated carrying the VETS' pads and stuff

7) Campbell and Cooley look like they are picking up where they left off. Campbell fired a bullet through three defenders for a TD to Cooley

8) Campbell still telegraphs his passes a bit.

9) Hate to keep gettin on Collins, but he threw the only pick to Torrence.

10) Oh yeah, Malcom Kelly spent a lot of time signing autographs. Nice guy...big guy

11) Stephon Heyer is a HUGE young man too!

12) They should'nt let adults get autographs before the kids.

13) Jason Taylor has absolutely no fat whatsoever. Andre Carter has muscles in his teeth.

14) An Iggles fan was with us and he was talkin' smack until he saw 3 Lombardi trophies. He said nothing else the rest of the day.

15) Someone stole one the Redskins' NFC Championship trophies a couple years' back.

16) Marcus Mason has got to be 5'6" tops!!!

Bye for now

Posted by: sicwidit | July 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

usredcoat at gmail dot com

Posted by: Redcoat | July 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Others may be hating on Rogers. Not me. Just being realistic.

As a CB, he was probably somewhere around 50th best in the league (which needs 64 starters). But his knee injury sounded pretty bad and its a tough position, let alone if you lose a bit of speed or quickness. If he does return to full speed, its probably not this year.

Rogers has had other injuries that have slowed his development down, but a knee is a tough deal for a CB.

I'd be happy to be wrong on this one.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Actually Double Move was playing pretty well before he got hurt last year. The "stone hands" tag is well deserved however.

I think he'll be a starting corner in the league. Not a great one but a good one.

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Truth wants to know what he has to do to get accepted so The Truth can dominate?

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 1:07 PM

Sign up on the Redskins Insider wiki, dude.

http://redskinsinsiders.wetpaint.com/accountSearch/all

Other new posters who want to get up to speed should also sign up or at least visit the wiki. Once you're a wiki member you can invite others to friend you. One with the most friends gets to take Nate's place as the blog's Big Swinging D1ck.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Shutting up an Iggles fan. Sic -- that makes my day

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

And please...Stop with whole Champ Bailey excuse. Champ was a good all around corner on a sorry team. And he was a shut down corner for the skins because no one looked his way. but I've been seeing a lot of champ chasing people down in the end zone the last couple of seasons.

The trade is still left to debate, but if the o-line and portis can stay sorta healthy, you might see portis setting career records for all the short passes and yards he might/could gain.

If the skins can grab some leads, that might even help the defense out and make opposing offenses less predictable. and that will lead to more turnovers. which is a good thing...

if...

Posted by: Balllll! | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michaels destroyed laconfora on redskins nation today

Posted by: grizlies98 | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

JLC - Re: a comment from today's chat
"Not a whole lot of stability(Skin's QB position) since then, save for a few years of Brad Johsnon, before the owner ran him out of town.

Jason - thanks for your hard work at the park. But i'd like to remind everyone that Brad "ocd" johnson ran himself out of town. His arm was dead and his decision making abilities went out the window. The same thing happend with the vikings and Tampa. His first year with a new club was always impresive, but for whatever reason, the following season was as consistent. Johnson released some bad passes that 2nd year with the skins. Jeff George was not the answer and i'm NOT defending snyder(who shoud've kept a GM in place all along) along) but johnson's arm was toast. You've got to give johnson his due. He has a ring and a very solid career...But yeah, i agree, the skins QB position has not been stable since probably Theisman.
Who ran Trent Green out of town? Was that the whole Raljon thing or Mr. Snyder?

Posted by: Cowbama | July 28, 2008 4:16 PM

Does JLaC know that Brad Johnson won a SB AFTER he played for the 'Skins? Why the hate?

Posted by: 4th | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Does JLaC know that Brad Johnson won a SB AFTER he played for the 'Skins? Why the hate?

Posted by: 4th | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM

JLC had NO hate for Brad Johnson but for the owner who ran him out of town in favor of Jeff George. All that hate in the post is from Cowbama.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I loved playing against Champ.

Posted by: Amani Toomer | July 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michaels destroyed laconfora on redskins nation today

Posted by: grizlies98 | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM

Tell more!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Later this week, Art Monk gets his place in the Hall of Fame. Long overdue, but it is great to see. As someone who watched and admired Monk for the great player he was, I became one of the people writing to the Hall voters of Monk's behalf. The anti-Monk arguments were shockingly weak, yet they kept him out of the Hall for 7 times.

The letters I wrote with a purpose back then are no longer needed. However, for those that saw Monk play and those that are less familiar with him, I'll be posting pieces of them during the week. It will remind people of how special and talented Monk was as a player, and why, as Redskins fans, this is such a wonderful week.

I'll post one a day (maybe multiple times if it gets beeped quickly) for 4 days, with starting with First Down today.

To me, the simple question that a HOF voter should ask is "what did this person do to help his team win?" Winning defines excellence. Art Monk was a winner in every respect.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michaels destroyed laconfora on redskins nation today

Posted by: grizlies98 | July 28, 2008 4:33 PM

What did he say?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people? Are we still talking about Champ Bailey again?

Anyway...with as many poor personnel decisions that have been made, aren't you glad you're not the Packers with that circus in Green Bay?

Posted by: sicwidit | July 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

First Down: Monk the Consummate Possession Receiver

Believe it or not, there was an argument over whether possession receivers are really HOF worthy. In practice, possession receivers are essential to winning. Less exciting? Perhaps. But more effective? Absolutely.

Monk was labeled a possession receiver and there is truth to it (though possession oriented is probably more fair), but the lack of respect it carries is 100% unmerited. Why? Because you needed possession receivers to win.

What about Monk and TDs? Don't deep threats score more? 4 WRs entered the Hall while he was on the ballot. He scored more TDs than Swann, Stallworth or Irvin and just 7 less than Lofton. So possession receivers do score TDs. But more importantly, they help the team score. The Redskins believed in running the ball for touchdowns. Six times in 9 seasons ('83-91), the Redskins were in the NFL top 4 in rushing touchdowns (I think the Skins led the league in rushing touchdowns in the Gibbs era). Does it make sense to separate the success of the rushing game from the passing game? Football is a team sport and Monk set up a lot of TDs for a team that was very effective in running the ball into the end zone. Excellence is winning. Back to why a possession receiver is so important. Monk not only had plenty of scores, he had a ton of assists.
The case for possession receivers is made clear by looking at champions. What did the best teams in football have for their top WR?
In Monk's prime, from 1981 to 1991, here are the non-Redskin Super Bowl champs ... along with their top receiver:

1981 and 1984 49ers: Dwight Clark
1983 Raiders: Todd Christensen
1985 Bears: their TE position had more yards than any WR
1986 Giants: Mark Bavaro
1990 Giants: their RBs had more receiving yards than their WRs
1988 and 1989 49ers: Jerry Rice

These teams averaged over 13 regular season wins. Yet Rice was the only great deep threat in the group and he was also a great possession receiver. Also worth a mention, the QBs on most of these teams weren't guys with a 'cannon' arm.

Now look at the top big play WRs in those years. Excellent, exciting players with gaudy yards per catch numbers and significant numbers of catches. Alfred Jenkins, Stanley Morgan, Roy Green, Mike Quick, Drew Hill, Henry Ellard and Mark Clayton combined for 20 Pro Bowl appearances from 1981-1991. But postseason success? In these years, the 7 great players combined for a total of 15 postseason wins. Monk had 10 by himself. James Lofton may be the best example. Seven Pro Bowls and just 1 postseason win ... until he was paired with a great possession oriented receiver in Andre Reed. Then it was 7 postseason wins and 1 ProBowl.

Bottom line, a possession receiver is essential for winning. One Hall voter called Monk the consummate possession receiver, then wondered 'is that enough' to merit entry into the Hall. In reality, possession receivers were more important to winning. Meaning Monk was more than just the consummate possession receiver, he was the consummate winner.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

they had frank hanrahan on there too and he said he was going to go talk to him, both seemed real pissed and kept calling jason the sourceror because his favorite thing to write is "sources say" and said its not even newsworthy to of put that on there

Posted by: grizlies98 | July 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I think he'll be a starting corner in the league. Not a great one but a good one.

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 4:29 PM

Agree here skinz.

There are very few "great" corners in this league anyway. Half of the pro bowl corners would be ripped by the skins fans if they played here (Al Harris, Asante Samuel, Terrence Newman, etc.). Heck, I even see Champ Bailey getting ripped here. And some of you guys expect Carlos Rogers to be perfect? I really don't know what some of these fans are thinking...

Posted by: psps23 | July 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Larry Michael is a suck up lap dog. He has no real thoughts of his own. He should just have the words "Shill" tattooed on his forehead. To steal a line, if Little Danny told him go sweep the sunshine off the roof, he'd be up there w/a broom.

Posted by: Not Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

now larry just killed the sourceror for having a "man-crush" on jerry and how creepy that is

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

That's cause Jasno makes fun of Michaels. Jasno is not always right but in this case I'd take any negative remarks that Larry Michaels threw my way and wear them as a badge of honor.

Kissing up to Danny may get your the title of "voice of the redskins" but he'll never be loved like some of his predecessors. Larry is a joke and his "insight" is laughable.

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I'd take any negative remarks that Larry Michaels threw my way and wear them as a badge of honor.

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 4:45 PM

skinz--You're a sorry douche of a person with no original thoughts and your breath stinks.

Posted by: Larry Michaels | July 28, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

now larry just killed the sourceror for having a "man-crush" on jerry and how creepy that is

Posted by: | July 28, 2008 4:45 PM

Larry "The lapdog" Michaels shouldn't be making fun of anyone for "man crushes" if this weren't a family blog we could talk about how Larry got the job in the first place.

Posted by: Da Truef | July 28, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The Truth agrees with psps23 and The Truth would also like to add the he finds it amusing that The Truth's fellow Redskins fans expect The Redskins to be 2 or 3 deep at every position. The Truth has noticed that The Redskins fans expect to have backups that could start anywhere else in the league. The Truth hates to be the bearer of bad news, but The Truth says this is not happening ANYWHERE!


The Truth also says Superbowl or bust!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

skinz--You're a sorry douche of a person with no original thoughts and your breath stinks.

Posted by: Larry Michaels | July 28, 2008 4:48 PM

Didn't know Danny kept a computer under his desk so you could type while you do your "job"

Posted by: Skinz | July 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

everyone needs to get back to work...

Posted by: da man | July 28, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The Truth has noticed that The Redskins fans expect to have backups that could start anywhere else in the league.

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:50 PM

Wrong! The Redskins just drafted a TE who could start anywhere in the league and their fans are blasting them for wasting a draft pick.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The Truth also says Superbowl or bust!

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 4:50 PM

Truth: We want it ALL: Super Bowl AND bust: Janet Jackson pops 'em out again.

Posted by: Mull It | July 28, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

No one team really has depth at every position. (except for philly who is always under the cap...gag me with a spork and buy some receivers. i can't stand reid and all of his apologists(sorry, i just had ate a bad chees steal))
And I cannot understand why the NFL does not want to expand the rosters, allow teams to resign their own free agents with few hits against the cap, and why the pass interference rule is not changed to a 15 yard foul/1st down like in college.

had to get that off my chest

Posted by: The Commish | July 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

now larry just killed the sourceror for having a "man-crush" on jerry and how creepy that is

Posted by: | July 28, 2008 4:45 PM

Gotta agree here. I cringed when I read the title of the Blog Posts.

Then he set himself up worse by starting off with Wise's man-crush, who was JT55. That's ok. New Redskin and starred on TV. Fine. But, when I got to his man crush and it was Jerry Coleman, I almost felt sorry for the dude, honestly.

Jerry Coleman?!?!? That isn't borderline. That is some gay a$$ s*%t (stuff). Seriously.

Then rereading it I realized JLaC was pulling a 'Larry Michael' for his Bmore butt buddy Jerry Coleman. And you guys who railed to support JLaC and Jerry are like the same fools you railed against in this blog about ExtremeSkins and homers for the teams.........

Posted by: Anonymous Regular | July 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

AL Zeke, I think that you are a bit harsh on Rogers. He is not Champ Bailey in his prime, but he had a nice season as a starter last year until he got hurt. Smoot had the same number of interceptions as Rogers last season (1) but he played more games. And no one is arguing that Smoot needs to pack his bags. It is possible that they will let Rogers go, but he is more likely to stay. Springs will be done in the next year or two, which leaves the team with Rogers, Smoot, Torrence and a couple of projects.

Posted by: M | July 28, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Champ Bailey gets romanticized way too much. He's an amazing athlete but only a good corner. He's certainly not in the league of a Deion, Rod Woodson, Aeneas Williams, Darrell Green, etc.

A guy who was regularly toasted by Amani Toomer, David Boston, Cedric Wilson (in the playoffs no-less!), Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Bill Schroeder, etc. etc. is not a shutdown corner.

And that "whoops I fell" bit to disguise when he had gotten beaten drove me insane.

Posted by: je suis un pizza | July 28, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I suspect all the CBs will (appear to) play better this year as a result of a more effective pass rush. Last year -- both Carlos Rodgers and Fred Smoot had to play a lot of zone coverages, because the front seven were not pressuring the opposing QBs. With Jason Taylor and healthy LBs -- the CBs should be able to play more man-to-man and have more chances at intercepting the ball...

Posted by: Siris | July 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Not saying Rogers was a bad CB. His play last year was like that of a marginal starter. I was hoping to see him improve and that his pick vs Det might have given him more confidence. Given his youth, I was willing to be patient and let him develop. CBs do take 1-2 full seasons to become good players, Rogers was still learning. I was OK with him starting over Smoot and Springs, guys that were better players in 2007.

To me Rogers upside was a bit Martin Mayhew. Solid, not spectacular. The guy who lines up against the other guy's #2 WR and can hold his own.

I wish Rogers nothing but the best. But as for his being a very good CB, I didn't see that. And if the knee takes away from his athleticism, I don't think his game had much margin for error.

fyi, I don't judge a corner on INTs. Darrell Green didn't have a ton of INTs because no one would throw against him. If you got good coverage, the QB goes elsewhere with the ball.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Now that we have a new #55 who will get a lot of PR attention this season. Let's start a campaign for the HOF Old Timers committee to nominate a great old #55 Chris Hanburger. He played 14 seasons. Some on the worst defenses in the late 1960's in the NFL, but was name to something like 6 Pro Bowls. He should be the next Redskin into the HOF.

Posted by: noone.from.tampa | July 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

98% of the "Media Fueds" you read are really just smart people promoting themselves knowing that said "fueds" result in increased attention from readers/viewers/blog commenters.

The other 2% really hate each other.

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

noone -- I can tell you that Chris Hanburger is on at least one voter's radar screen. When I was writing my letters on behalf of Monk, I wrote Len Shapiro. After Monk got in, he wrote me saying:

"Now it's on to grimm, maybe jacoby and maybe hanburger as a senior candidate"

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

just checked, old #55 saw 9 Pro Bowls

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I think Jeff George is avaiable....

Posted by: Marty Schottenheimer | July 28, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Hit refresh. Blades to have knee surgery.

Posted by: Cindy | July 28, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Skins should rename themselves to MASH. I'm surprised Samuels didn't lose an eye from that cake being thrown in his face.

Larry Michaels should have puppet strings attached to his mouth and arms.

Posted by: SnyderSucks | July 28, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

deez nutz

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Actually Snyder's a ventriloquist and his hand is up Michael's bum making him talk the way he does. I taught him well.

Posted by: Jeff Dunham | July 28, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Larry Michael | July 28, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey JLac...are you gonna take that from Larry Michael. He ripped you a new one on Redskins Nation and Frank Hanrahan co-signed it!!!

Show em' what you got Jason a.k.a "The Sourceror".

Posted by: sicwidit | July 28, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers couldn't catch a beach ball if his life depended on it

Posted by: cali-snowboarder | July 28, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse


The silence regarding Blades "sprained" knee is ominous. Why haven't we heard good news yet?

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 3:11 PM


Hit refresh. Blades to have knee surgery.

Posted by: Cindy | July 28, 2008 7:06 PM


YEP, I'M PSYCHIC

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Jasno should be proud to be called the Sourceror.

It's a credit to him that he has any sources left, given how the message control freaks in Ashburn have frozen him out.

Those idiots act like the GOP.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

It's a credit to him that he has any sources left, given how the message control freaks in Ashburn have frozen him out.

Posted by: | July 28, 2008 8:25 PM

Dude, we are his sources. Everything he knows he gets from reading the blog.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Any links to this Larry Michell nonsense

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Beyond his downtime, Brady was quizzed on a number of topics - including the threat of his team facing a Super Bowl hangover, his record-setting receiving corps a year later and how he felt about no longer having to face division foe and personal terror Jason Taylor on a regular basis.

The latter query drew the best out of Brady, who claimed he and left tackle Matt Light threw a celebration upon learning the news his pal Taylor had been traded from Miami to Washington.

"I think Light and I popped a cold beer when I saw the transaction," Brady said. "We were the two most excited players in the NFL. We were hugging each other. That was awesome."

Posted by: kost52 | July 28, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

F Larry Michael.

That is all.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 28, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I notice there is no wikipedia entry for larry michael. anyone out there with enough free time to start one and f### with him?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kost, Geelong is on a roll. They beat both Western and Hawthorn this month. Where is Hawthorn? Is it the Hawthorn just south of St Kilda?

When do the playoffs start and how do they go? No doubt the Cats are looking very very good.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

YEP, I'M PSYCHIC

Posted by: Corkczar | July 28, 2008 7:52 PM

as well as a self promoting repetitive dbag

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Zeke, I reckon kost is dealing with that strange phenomenon, when the long-suffering fan of a middling/disappointing team suddenly finds himself rooting for a champion. Like Red Sox fans, Aussie style. You have to rethink your whole worldview. (And if you're a Red Sox fan, maybe, just maybe, become an insufferable douchebag.)

An enviable predicament.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 28, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Also, Zeke, there's the parallel of guys who rooted for the Skins a lot longer than I did before that first championship... what it must have felt like to see this franchise hoist the Lombardi after suffering all those brutal years! Decade after decade of good and bad and sometimes great teams that never took the last step... and then Gibbs comes in and BOOM!

Not that any Skins fan ever became an insufferable douchebag after we started hoisting Lombardis on a regular basis or anything. No, never, never...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 28, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

How do you think those 4 hardcore Cardinals fans feel?

Posted by: Alex35332 | July 28, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Does Vinny have Godfrey on speed dial? He's available albeit a year older but a known guy for Olivadoti and the staff. Solid last year.

Khary Campbell at 224 can't play MLB - at least H.B. is in the 240's.

Al Zeke etc, spot on about Monk and 80's football. The run-and-shoot is the only reason Monk had to wait all that time - well that and the fact that Monk was/is a team player and doesn't have the personality of a self-promoting douchebag like so many WR's. The mindless media covering the NFL got a baseball - homerun stats mentality - and put in guys less valuable to their prospective teams. I read what Gil Brandt had to say about Monk and Green - guys he scouted. He's almost sad Monk wasn't a fullback. WTF? Monk still doesn't get the respect he deserves. Still, Saturday will bring joy to this fan as my two all-time favorites are going in together.

Posted by: bangkokben | July 28, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Mr anonymous- aka Karl Swanson writes from Danny's bunker- .

I realized JLaC was pulling a 'Larry Michael' for his Bmore butt buddy Jerry Coleman. And you guys who railed to support JLaC and Jerry are like the same fools you railed against in this blog about ExtremeSkins and homers for the teams.........

lets spell it out .......


A) Larry Michael is AWFUL AND A PHONY (hey Larry enjoy this lame duck time )

B) You mean Coleman and JLC actually crticized your beloved skins? Gosh..that must pain you and your lil buddy.

c) pleeeze-MR ANYNOMOU-ASS ...rrrrr KARL ...Go get danny a coke....and do something useful.

Posted by: 980 anchor | July 28, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Those who belittle Carlos Rogers need to explain the fact that when he went down early in the Patriots game (Smoot was injured and did not play), certain floodgates were opened.
I don't know that he's an elite CB, but he's no Leigh Torrence either.

Posted by: cload & daggar | July 28, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers?!?! What am i, chopped liver?

Ery'one needs to chill out and goto the cool out corner.

We're celebrating Monk and Green this weekend people! Does anyone have any inside ka-noledge of the greater akron area? Is there some pub where all of chocolate city's finest are can kick back and remember when, and make fun of people who live in akron? And has anyone ever been to the enshrinement? i've tried calling to find out about parking and tailgating but i keep getting the run around. and that there are all kinds of rules prohibiting drinking adult beverages and no open flames.

Maybe JLaC can ask Larry "the minister of misinformation" michaels...

Posted by: Tom Carter | July 28, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers was having a very solid 2007 before the injury. It sports usually it's what have you done for me lately but for some people first impressions are stronger. Rogers has also been very consistent against the run making tackles close to the line of scrimage. We'll need a healthy Rogers in the 2nd half of this season. For now, Leigh Torrence - who improved dramatically from NE to week 17, can play third and the rookie Tryon can play fourth. Who knows maybe Westbrook can play as well. Tom Carter is no Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: bangkokben | July 28, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the little spat that JLac has created with the Skins is cute. As a season tix holder I check this site frequently because it is hands down the fastest place to get Skins injury updates, etc. I could care less for JLacs opinion. Glad he has opened a portal and started a community among many folks here. But he would cover soccer full time if he had his druthers. Look I know Larry Michael is 100% on the Skins side. So, dont come here if you dont like the negative view. We can agree JLacs view is not real, but more skewed to the pessimistic. But does it serve the Washington Post for Jason to make it personal with Cerrato? If this team won a Superbowl this year. Outta left field, like the Giants last year. How would the chief editor feel about his ace beat guy not being able to get an interview with Cerrato? A man who would get huge props for this teams success. Zorn hiring, Taylor pick up, deliberate off season, etc.

Posted by: Club 320 | July 28, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm only a little hard on carlos because he's always in position to make a play on the ball, but he can never find the ball in the air. The receiver either catches the ball or carlos gets called for face gaurding and pass interference. You can tell he cares about competing, but just play the pass a little better. that's all...you can't defend every pass and gregg had the db's playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. It's hard to catch an NFL wide out with a 10 yard head start...get up in their face and bump. and if the defense gives up a quick score, it's better than the opposing offense using up clock with a 12 play drive.

woh, that was deep for some y'all...

Posted by: Tom Carter | July 28, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kost, Geelong is on a roll. They beat both Western and Hawthorn this month. Where is Hawthorn? Is it the Hawthorn just south of St Kilda?

When do the playoffs start and how do they go? No doubt the Cats are looking very very good.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | July 28, 2008 9:36 PM

Yeah, it's unbelievable how well we're going, on the verge of being mentioned as one of the greatest teams of all time! Hawthorn is a suburb about 1/2 hour drive East from Melbourne. 5 games to go until the Finals (playoffs) start, here's how they work-

Week 1
Game 1 - 1st vs 4th
Game 2 - 2nd vs 3rd
Game 3 - 5th vs 8th
Game 4 - 6th vs 7th

Week 2
Game 5 - Loser Game 1 vs Winner Game 3
Game 6 - Loser Game 2 vs Winner Game 4
(Winners of Game 1 & 2 get bye, Losers of Game 3 & 4 are eliminated)

Week 3
Game 7 - Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 6
Game 8 - Winner Game 2 vs Winner Game 6

Week 4 "Grand Final"
Winner Game 7 vs Winner Game 8

Posted by: kost52 | July 29, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

It's my blog and I'll whine if I want to
Whine if I want to
Whine if I want to
You would whine to if it happened to you...

NOT. How many beat reporters have come and gone without all of this stupid contraversy?? Jerry Coleman has only been there (covering the Skins) for 2 years since Bram decided to jump ship. Whopty do...

Cindy - Did Maske have this problem back in the Norv years?? He seemed to have great insightful articles back then........

All this negativty is getting tiredsome. Maybe that's why I don't read featured articles anymore over here. You can get the same facts the Posts gives from everywhere else.

The blog is ok when it is used what it's intended use is for. But railing against a radio station that shares some of the same investors as the team and to blame the owner and Cerrato (indirectly) is absolutely childish and imature. Grow Up.

If Snyder was vindictive, then the 1st person that would have been axed is Czaben. But, he wasn't and do you know why? MONEY. STEVE DRIVES THE RATINGS ON 980. In fact, Czaben was pounding on Snyder today regarding his choices for QB since he arrived.

No one liked Coleman. And by no one, I mean the listeners, not other media members. There is no out cry similar to when Frank Herzog pushed out the door. JLa ain't writing any checks. So, yes. LaCanfora pulled a freakin Larry Michael and no one calls him out. This blog is no different than extremeskins by that measure.........

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th | July 29, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Training Camp: Day 9
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John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com Jul 28, 2008

John Keim reports on his observations from the Redskins' ninth day of Training Camp under Jim Zorn. Curious how the QB's looked today? How about how some of the OL guys are looking? It's all here.

...Defensive coordinator Greg Blache seems like he's trying to keep the fire lit under Anthony Montgomery. He's going to miss two to four weeks with the broken bone in his hand, but even before then Blache was making sure he knew he had competition for his starting job.

...Blache made it clear that Kedric Golston can win the position and that Golston "is on Monty's tail." Blache claims Golston would have started had the Redskins advanced past Seattle in last year's playoff. Not sure about that, but there's no doubt he doesn't ever want Montgomery to feel content. That's what caused Monty to tumble to the fifth round out of Minnesota.

...Blache also made it clear that Reed Doughty will start opposite LaRon Landry. Never thought that was really in doubt considering the Redskins want Landry at free safety. Stuart Schweigart is a free safety only. So there was no one to challenge Doughty at the strong safety spot.

...If you haven't checked out the Chris Samuels cake-in-the-face video, go to NFL.com to watch. Samuels' birthday was today and his linemates serenaded him by singing Happy Birthday. They also gave him a cake with a picture of a seal on it. Stephon Heyer claims Samuels looks like the singer Seal.

...Anyway, after a bit Randy Thomas came back out, snuck up to the podium where Samuels was answering questions, picked up the cake and slammed it in his face. Samuels was fantastic about it, laughing the whole time. Others would not have been so fun-loving. There's a strong bond among the linemen. Both lines actually.

...The Redskins had a special teams workout this afternoon. Didn't do much other than work on lane assignments and other fundamentals. No punting battles. And I don't put much stock anymore in the punting work during practice. Games are what matter most.

...Todd Collins continues to struggle a bit. Teammates and coaches say it's simply a matter of him working with backups and facing starters.

...All the quarterbacks, except for Collins, and corner Fred Smoot ran about 12 40-yard dashes after practice.

...Ethan Albright's young daughter walked to the locker room wearing his shoulder pads and helmet. Probably needed a bath after that walk.

...Jason Campbell looked rather sharp today. He's winging it downfield with no worries. It helps that he's facing backups, but Campbell looks like he's feeling comfy in this offense. But he never worried about the change; after all, this is what he ran his senior year at Auburn.

Campbell hit Horace Grant in stride for one deep pass down the left sideline, a couple plays after hitting Maurice Mann down the right seam.

...Joe Bugel got on Tavares Washington after one false start, asking him - and we know this because it was easy to read lips from the sideline - "What the [bleep] are you doing!"

...Todd Wade jumped on the next play - the Redskins were working on a hard count. After that both sides of the ball came together and coach Jim Zorn implored them to have more focus. The practice was much sharper thereafter.


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Story URL: http://was.scout.com/2/773211.html


Posted by: Keim to da Post | July 29, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

"No one liked Coleman. And by no one, I mean the listeners, not other media members."

I don't recall speaking to you to give you my opinion on Coleman. OMG!!! Don't tell me Little Danny has invented a machine that can read the thoughts of the public!!! I'm embarrassed by my frequent choral thoughts (to the tune of the random background music); "F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder! F__k Dan Snyder!..."

Posted by: What Who? | July 29, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

nutz-on-ya-chin

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

chin-on-ya-nutz

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

The Truth wants to join a fantasy league! The Truth wants to know what he has to do to get accepted so The Truth can dominate?

Posted by: The Truth | July 28, 2008 1:07 PM

Sorry - only RI Regulars need apply.

Posted by: The Truth Hurts | July 29, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Here's my .02 on the whole Carlos Rogers thing--he stinks. Every time I see his name, I think of him whiffing on the tackle of Plaxico Burress on that game-winning touchdown Week 3 at FedEx. I've heard Doc Walker say he's probably better suited to play in a Cover 2 defense where you don't have to cover a guy man to man. It hurts 10x more when you take into account we could have had a beast pass-rusher who grew up just minutes away from the damn stadium (Shawne Merriman) in that spot.

I doubt he's here for the long term. I think he's gone after his contract is up and has a decent career as a Cover 2 CB or a FS. Hopefully he'll have surgery to replace those salad tongs with real hands and make few picks before he leaves town.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

By the way, what the hell is Wise doing writing a column about punters?

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, brownie, hardly Wise's finest hour, a fluffy little piece that didn't really shed any light on the competition.

Maybe someone with a moderate-to-severe punter obsession got to Wise and lobbied him to do it... dcsween?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 29, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

ANOTHER Anonymous MORON BLABS : "If Snyder was vindictive, then the 1st person that would have been axed is Czaben. But, he wasn't and do you know why? MONEY. STEVE DRIVES THE RATINGS ON 980. In fact, Czaben was pounding on Snyder today regarding his choices for QB since he arrived.


No one liked Coleman. And by no one, I mean the listeners, not other media members. There is no out cry similar to when Frank Herzog pushed out the door. JLa ain't writing any checks. So, yes. LaCanfora pulled a freakin Larry Michael and no one calls him out. This blog is no than extremeskins by that measure...."

Ok, DUMMY - Lets address your moronic "points" each ..as you blog in your mom's Basement...


POINT 1- Czaban is ONLY there b/c he is UNDER CONTRACT and getting paid ( despite NOT being on at his OWN DC station in AM) He will be 1st OUT THE DOOR !, Just wait until it's up.

Point 2 LEARN HOW TO SPELL - controversey.

Point 3 - No outcry for Coleman ? What? ask ANYONE IN THE SKINS MEDIA ROOM - AS DOC, ANY PRODUCER OR B- MITCH, WHERE HE ACTUALLY HE WORKED ? Even, your hero, Larry Michael praised him on Tv last night, so , How do you know what all the listeners think ? have they all been to your Mom's house?

READ THE BOG, WASH TIMES , ETC- two DIFFERENT papers which had his back in their blog- The guy ALWAYS asked tougher questions that YOUR EXTREMESKINS,or Comcast, along with George and Larry Michael COMBINED - would NEVER utter. Not to mention Bram.....so for you fans that want the E-Z answer , you will get it - along with 5-11 . so be it

IMYHO- only the Unlikelable Brett Haber is left to ask those . Frank Herzog was pbp - that is MUCH DIFFERENT - and he was no better than suck up, Michael. Besides Mike patrick is on deck !


Step inside the REAL MEDIA room sometime son, and you might get a clue . The way you are informed sounds like you must be related to someone like : brownwood ( board op ) ranked # 26 :)


D ROSS - AKA- THE FOX

Posted by: Dave Rossie | July 29, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

A story about punters. Boooooooo

Posted by: jm220 | July 29, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Ross/Fox, I couldn't care less about the Jerry Coleman "controversy," but for what it's worth, I will point out that I'm one of many who think Larry Michael was a huge step down in talent and class from Frank Herzog, AND as I recall, Michael unceremoniously forced Herzog out and gave himself the play-by-play job.

So I say again unto thee, verily, F Larry Michael. Forsooth.

Maps.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 29, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Oh boy, another Jerry Coleman groupie...

Dave, you must be "involved" with that Steve Whitewood guy from the other day because your spiel smacks of his arrogance and misplaced anger. I'm not the one who fired your precious Jerry Coleman, so let's not get on me like I'm responsible. All I did was say I don't like the guy, why I don't like the guy, and that I wasn't the only one that felt that way in the building. And the fact that I had a part-time job as a board op there (and I had two jobs in the industry at the time, so I must not have been TOO bad) don't minimize my views or make Jerry's performance any better or worse.

The only truth in that Limbaugh-esque diatribe is that most of the on-air talent at 980 is under contract and that's the reason no major moves have been made. However, Czabe is a major draw on that station and to remove him or let him walk would be a HUGE error in judgement by Red Zebra, and you'd see a difference in the ratings.

So let's move on from the whole Jerry thing. JLC loves him, you love him, I hate him, which doesn't matter anymore because he's gone.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

By the way, put me down for the "I love Herzog" crowd. Since how the media feels in apparently all that matters (Dave Rossie, Steve Whitewood, etc.), note that on NFL Networks's Top 10 series, any Redskin-related segments have Herzog in to comment, not Larry Michael.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Oops, "in" should be "is" in that last post.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I take offense to the notion above that Sox fans have become insufferable douch-bags. Shows what you know.

I'm completely sufferable.

Posted by: Greg | July 29, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Point 2 LEARN HOW TO SPELL - controversey.

Posted by: Dave Rossie | July 29, 2008 7:43 AM

All credibility goes away when you mis-spell in your own spelling critique.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Greg, I find you completely sufferable.

Some other Red Sox fans, though...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | July 29, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Point 2 LEARN HOW TO SPELL - controversey.

Posted by: Dave Rossie | July 29, 2008 7:43 AM

All credibility goes away when you mis-spell in your own spelling critique.

Posted by: | July 29, 2008 8:17 AM

Finally, an anon I can agree with...even bottom-feeding board ops can spell 'controversy'! :)

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 29, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Nate, trust me, I live among them. Sometimes I feel like quizzing them on some historical aspect of the Red Sox, that happened, oh, lets say PRIOR to 2004, and calling them out on their pink hat status.

Pats fans are MUCH, MUCH worse however.

Posted by: Greg | July 29, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Every day I feel like a contestant on 'Press Your Luck' only instead of "no whammies" it's "no injuries."

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

chris larry micheal

Posted by: coincidence? | July 29, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Why did no one beep me?

Posted by: What Who? | July 29, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The Truth forgot to send the email yesterday.

The Truth will send it today, TODAY!

Posted by: The Truth | July 29, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

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