Brandon Banks and the Wildcat

Giants working hard to get Devin Thomas ready?

Interesting philosophy. Opposingly, the Redskins seem to work hard to make their players unready! (see 3-4 switch, haynesworth, carter, DT, LJ, fast Willie Parker, Dockery, t Austin, signing of 12th RB, Bidwell)

how's that 'working hard to get your players ready' thing going, Giants?

Haha those idiots!

Until it works we should call it the 'housecat'

if the Redskins lose this game I would hope the rest Santana Moss the rest of the season he is only getting older and start Armstrong, Banks, and Austin at wr to see what we have with the youngsters at wideout! If they can't produce as a unit then time to take a look at some big names coming in fa like Moss, Holmes, and vjax(who I think is overrated and not worth the money)

Until it works we should call it the 'housecat'

Posted by: pabrian2003 | December 1, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

define "works" he only got 3 yards per carry last week.

But our "running backs" averaged 2.11 yards per.

Works I'll define as a first down, TD, or play over 7 yards.

The Wildcat makes no sense to me unless you really want work to be good at it. As a trick play, its not of much use. Everyone knows that #5 isn't running a fly pattern or coming over the middle. Its playing 10 on 11, with no threat of a pass.

Works I'll define as a first down, TD, or play over 7 yards.

Posted by: pabrian2003

Its funny, but I've thought of how to define a 'successful' play. Its pretty close to what you said, though with a much lower yardage requirement. To me, a successful play is: 3 or more yards or a 1st down or TD.

The high end stat folks would probably define it as a 'positive' play, where the result of the play improves the odds of getting a 1st down. Which makes 'success' a function of down and distance.

The Wildcat makes no sense to me unless you really want work to be good at it. As a trick play, its not of much use. Everyone knows that #5 isn't running a fly pattern or coming over the middle. Its playing 10 on 11, with no threat of a pass.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 1, 2010 6:12 PM

What about a pitch back to #5 or a direct snap to #5 while Banks is in formation?

Yes. Any Play that keeps you 'ahead of the chains' is a positive. I thought the housecat was funny.

The real wildcat requires 2 power backs IMO.

But unsuccessful could be defined as starting your 7th RG or signing your 12th RB

The Wildcat makes no sense to me unless you really want work to be good at it. As a trick play, its not of much use. Everyone knows that #5 isn't running a fly pattern or coming over the middle. Its playing 10 on 11, with no threat of a pass.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 1, 2010 6:12 PM

What about a pitch back to #5 or a direct snap to #5 while Banks is in formation?

Posted by: abxinc

I'm fine with innovations that create a distinct advantage. I don't see much advantage to the versions of the wildcat where a QB becomes a WR and the guy taking the snap doesn't know how to throw the ball.

The shotgun, the west coast offense, Joe Gibbs and his 3 WRs + H-back, even the Wildcat -- all good innovations that it took defenses a while to catch up to.

Will someone please cite a case where the Wildcat consistently produced results? Because I can really think of any off the top of my head. It's always seemed to me that defenses see the wildcat formation and then key on the wildcat guy, which stops most plays from being significant gains. Am I wrong here?

If the guy running the Wildcat can't throw (like B Banks), then it's just a QB-less running O.

Big Deal.

If the guy running the Wildcat can't throw (like B Banks), then it's just a QB-less running O.

Big Deal.

Posted by: edvar | December 1, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse
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In a way, the wildcat reminds me of pee wee football, where the best athlete was the QB even if he didn't have a great arm, b/c you rarely threw anyway.

Ronnie brown an Ricky Williams at Miami were purty successful because they're both a threat to power up the gut

Will someone please cite a case where the Wildcat consistently produced results? Because I can really think of any off the top of my head. It's always seemed to me that defenses see the wildcat formation and then key on the wildcat guy, which stops most plays from being significant gains. Am I wrong here?

Posted by: skinsfan713

You're wrong, but by much. For a while, Miami ran it effectively -- and they were really the only ones. They did have distinctly better results with the wildcat than with their standard offense. I think they stopped using it because all their division rivals figured out how to slow it down after a few games against it.

No one else did anything more with it than make it a gimmick play ... and by now every team has seen it so they've all got a defense for it.

fwiw, I though Cleveland would be a great team to implement it. They've got a running QB in Seneca Wallace who is also a pretty good passer. Or they could run it through Josh Cribbs, dangerous with the ball and also a capable passer (was a college QB I think). Plus, they have Hillis. You could run with power, run with speed or throw -- with an extra blocker instead of the QB.

By Washington Post editors | December 1, 2010; 4:45 PM ET

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DISABLE AUTO-PLAY. If I wanted to hear or watch it I would press play.

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DISABLE AUTO-PLAY

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PLEASE!

VERY ANNOYING!

THANKS!

Just mute your computer guys. They ain't listenin' to us. What else could possibly explain the terrible job these guys are doing?

have mercy on us, make it stop !!!

these people operate this blog like snyder operates the redskins. let's face it, we're all doomed

That retarded auto play video has killed the blog...TOD? Now

Zcest, I just accepted your trade offer of gore for Blount.

Cleveland does run it through cribbs and sometimes with effectiveness

Get an iPhone/iPad. These retarded videos don't work on em! It's the inky way to view this blog.

The real wildcat requires 2 power backs IMO.

True.

The team that runs it the best, the Miami Dolphins, do so because they run misdirection or 'cross-buck' action that causes defenders to pause and figure out who has the ball: Ronnie Brown or Ricky Williams--to very good backs.

Brown also is excellent as a 'read option' type quarterback and handles the ball very well is pitches, hand-offs, or taking it up the middle himself.

Too, Brown can hit an open receiver now and then.

And besides, the wildcat is a trend that has come and gone for most teams.

Most teams just go 3/4 wide and attack.

So use Banks as a slot receiver, H-back coming out of the backfield, or have him run seam routes where he winds up one-on-one with a safety or linebacker.

You'll see more production from him there than as a wildcat quarterback.

Just had that worthless auto-play video forced upon me....
Hadnt seen LaVar for awhile... he is starting to look like Starr Jones ( pre-stapled stomach) from the View.

nobody watches the videos, they horriblerendous...just an fyi

RI is dead.

It's not dead... it just lacks cardiovascular endurance.

RI is dead.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 1, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Video posts killed it.

Re: Banks & Wildcat

Nice to see them get BB involved on offense, but I can't imagine that there's anything "wild" about it. They snap it to Banks and he runs.

What's wild is they want to run the Wildcat to get Banks running the ball 'cause we've got no real ground game.

And McNabb expected Shanahan to give the run game he supposedly never had in Philly.

Nice. Everyone is out finding goats to sacrifice. Well done.

Something that has bothered me..

It's the we should have signed Westbrook contingency. We offered him a contract and he chose SF.

And for the record unless CP of 2006, AP, or Chris Johnson is walking out of that tunnel. NOBODY else is going to have success behind this OL.

Nobody.

Nice. Everyone is out finding goats to sacrifice. Well done.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 1, 2010 10:54 PM

Got mine.

Picked up a couple extra in case anyone else needs...

I thought Lavar sounded intelligent for a change.

beeps peeps off this thread finally

Please disable auto play, that think-tank is not worth listening to.

Please disable auto play, that think-tank is not worth listening to.

Please disable auto play, that think-tank is not worth listening to.