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Brandon Banks still not ruled out of Monday's game

By Barry Svrluga

Redskins return specialist Brandon Banks, who had arthroscopic surgery to repair a small tear in one of his knees last week, spent part of Friday's practice catching punts and kickoffs, Coach Mike Shanahan said, leaving open a slight possibility that Banks could play Monday night against Philadelphia.

"He didn't overdo it," Shanahan said. "But we'll get a chance to see if his knee swells up [Saturday], exactly how he's doing. We'll do that probably for the next couple days, and probably won't make a decision before game time."

Banks injured himself late in the Oct. 31 loss at Detroit, a game in which he returned a kickoff 96 yards for a touchdown and racked up a Redskins record 271 return yards. Shanahan believes, for most players, it would take two or three weeks to return, and Monday will be jsut 12 days after Banks's surgery. Banks is still dealing with swelling in the knee, but that doesn't have Shanahan particularly concerned.

"There's always a little swelling any time there's surgery, any time you're pushing it, but not to any high degree," Shanahan said. "So we feel good about it thus far. We just can't push him too much each day. We're just going to get a little feel on what he can do and make a decision by game day."

There still isn't clarity on the Redskins' running back situation for the Eagles game, either. Both Ryan Torain (hamstring) and Clinton Portis (groin tear) got some work in during Friday's practice.

"Ryan did a pretty good job," Shanahan said. "There was no setback. He's, again, day by day. He's pushing himself pretty hard, and hopefully tomorrow he'll feel good."

Portis's case is a little bit more difficult, Shanahan said. The veteran hasn't played since tearing the groin Oct. 3 in Philadelphia, and this is his first week of practice. Shanahan is adamant that his players be in "football shape" before they appear in a game, and he also must consider whether Portis could do more damage than good should he return early.

"You've got to be very careful," Shanahan said. "He wants to go, but is still a little bit sore. I think the doctors will look at it and talk to him [Saturday] and see how he's doing, and we'll get a better feel of it, after talking to the doctors, exactly what direction we should go with him. But he's biting at the bit. He wants to go. I know that. We just got to make sure we're smart relative to his injury."

If neither Portis nor Torain can play, rookie Keiland Williams would be the starter, and either Chad Simpson or newly signed James Davis would serve as the backup.

Shanahan also said that outside linebacker Brian Orakpo (back) and safety LaRon Landry (Achilles tendon) practiced Friday and had no issues.

By Barry Svrluga  | November 12, 2010; 2:17 PM ET
Categories:  Brandon Banks  
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Comments

At least Shanahan didn't repeat his "little guys heal faster" BS.

By the way, where exactly did the coach get his medical degree? (Seems like he only consulting with the specialists when it suits him.)

Posted by: Vic1 | November 12, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Who else wants to see James Davis in the backfield on Monday night? Its also funny everyone was hating on how old our backfield was in the pre season with the '05 all madden team, and will probably end with 3 running backs under 25. HTTR.

Posted by: zjenks | November 12, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Who else wants to see James Davis in the backfield on Monday night? Its also funny everyone was hating on how old our backfield was in the pre season with the '05 all madden team, and will probably end with 3 running backs under 25. HTTR.

Posted by: zjenks | November 12, 2010 2:25 PM

I want to see Portis and Torain.

And the haters were right, weren't they?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 12, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I have to say Shanahan's prounouncements on the Banks injury scary on multiple levels:
a) the danger to Banks
b) the desperation of rushing him back early
c) the cavalier attitude towards medical knowledge

Posted by: MarquisSmith | November 12, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

In other NFL news, Mike Shanahan told reporters at his press conference that "everybody is questionable this week". When asked what he meant, Shanahan said that he was not sure he could even field a roster with all of the mysterious injuries impacting the team. On another note, Shanahan said everyone practiced...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 12, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Davis get about 10 touch's....see what this cat's got....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 12, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

hope we get to see brandon "money in the" bank$ play on monday, but i doubt it

hope the Defense is ready to go, knock vick around a lil bit

the offense, im interested to see how they respond after all this bs talk, hopefully we can, you know, like block for our QB on monday, that would be nice

HAIL and sweeping the eagles would be nice for my mood considering im not sure how well we are going to finish this year

but yea f da eagles

Posted by: retroskins14 | November 12, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd also like to see what Davis can do. It Seems like he would be a logical fit for this team. However, If the O-line continues to not do it's job, it won't matter who is back there.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 12, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Get James Davis in there.

The O-line has had time to heal up and practice blocking.

We beat the Eagles soundly on Monday night, after having 2 weeks prep.

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 12, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

At least Shanahan didn't repeat his "little guys heal faster" BS.

By the way, where exactly did the coach get his medical degree? (Seems like he only consulting with the specialists when it suits him.)

Posted by: Vic1 | November 12, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse
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So what should the Redskins do, Vic? Obviously you don't feel MS is the answer, and Snyder will be here for years to come.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 12, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Shanahan is adamant that his players be in "football shape" before they appear in a game..."


I wonder what Shanny would have done with a guy like Riggo... dude used to spend his weekdays in traction for his back (probably with cold beer and his VHS tapes), then show up for the game on Sundays.

And then he'd suck oxygen between plays.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Alan4:

Make an exception, whether he would admit to it or not.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 12, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I love Banks but Hello? The guy just had surgery. Not a booboo on his finger but SURGERY!!!
Just the fact that Shanahan said they would consider playing him shows how insane the Redskins management has become. This is borderline psychotic.
Someone stop the madness--Please.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | November 12, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Come on folks...it was only a "small tear"...BB takes a kickoff AND a punt to the house this week!

Posted by: PlayAction | November 12, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

So what should the Redskins do, Vic? Obviously you don't feel MS is the answer, and Snyder will be here for years to come.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 12, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't claim to have all the answers -- just know that I've grown tired of the repeated lies and insults to our intelligence.

WRT Banks -- I tend to think that most medical professionals would say that a player coming off knee surgery needs and deserves at least a few weeks to heal. So why are we even entertaining the notion that he should come back early -- and risk even greater injury?

And then when Shanahan asserted the other day that Banks is worth a look because little guys heal faster, it just compounded the insult.

I don't doubt Shanahan's football accumen, ability to break down film, or chart out X's and O's.

But with each lie and insult to our intelligence... he loses a bit more of our respect as a coach and presumed leader of men of intelligence, integrity and honor.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

It was just a minor meniscus(sp?) tear so it really isnt that serious. They said 2-3 weeks, and Monday would be 2 days short of 2 weeks. He's also probably just blowing smoke up andy reids ass anyway

Posted by: zjenks | November 12, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm fairly certain there will be a leak from Redskins Park in the coming weeks indicating that the "Surgery" Banks had on a "Tear" in his "Knee" was in fact a wardrobe malfunction fixed by a seamstress.

I.E. he tore his pants and had to get them sewn up....Not his knee and had to have surgery.

It's all a carefully crafted spin campaign/smokescreen from the Shanahan regime to keep the Eagles guessing.

Banks will probably have like 800 yards of returns this week since PHI watched one Buchanon punt return and then called off the rest of the Special Teams meeting by saying..."OK we can handle that....the little guy is out...we're good..."

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 12, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Diminutive Size
Brandon Banks goes for a score
The Crowd goes crazy

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 12, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Vic...I get where you are coming from...but I think Shanny is more worried about deceiving his next opponent and gaining a tactical advantage...than our respect for him. And I think BB is within the projected recovery time that we were given...not unheard of for players to come back earlier than expected...especially younger (and smaller haha) players.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 12, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

projected out 2-3 weeks, may play after 1 and a half. Yeah, thats intellegent!

and;
Its also funny everyone was hating on how old our backfield was in the pre season with the '05 all madden team, and will probably end with 3 running backs under 25. HTTR.

Posted by: zjenks

"end up with" ???
Are you serious? You're really defending that preseason decision?

Posted by: gmac78 | November 12, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vic1 | November 12, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

C'mon man....He's coaching a football team, not occupying a seat on the Supreme Court.

Newsflash...NFL coaches lie. Every single one of them not named Jim Zorn lies like a cheap rug to try and gain any competitive advantage they can. We can debate all day whether it works or not, but IMO you should not take any of it as an insult, rather a fact of life.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 12, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Vic1, skins fan 22, it's called gamesmanship, and it's directed not at us, but at the Eagles' special teams coach, whom Shanny hopes will spend valuable practice time preparing for a guy who probably won't play.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | November 12, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: PlayAction | November 12, 2010 3:12 PM

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 12, 2010 3:16 PM

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | November 12, 2010 3:19 PM

Fair enough, thanks.

Part of me would like to believe that the Redskins could beat any other team straight up -- and without all of the lies, deceptions and disinformation.

You know, just by applying a few old tried and tested attributes that we used to call "competition," "fair play" and "sportsmanship."

But am also enough of a realist to know how foolish such ideas must sound today.

Either way, am prepared to relinquish my soap box, and move on to another topic. Thanks again!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Diminutive Size
Brandon Banks goes for a score
The Crowd goes crazy

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 12, 2010 3:10 PM

Nice iH8...Haiku Friday?

Posted by: PlayAction | November 12, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

yes

Posted by: iH8dallas | November 12, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Usually the haikus up here are little more than unrhymed limericks whose author didn't have the attention span for a full five lines. But, iH8, that one was clever.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 12, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Out two to three weeks would seem to me to indicate not returning punts in practices after 9 days.

Posted by: MarquisSmith | November 12, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I like Shanahan. He's removing the sense of entitlement on this team among the players. He's basically saying... "This isn't a government job. You need to earn your pay".

Posted by: thorhero | November 12, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Winning this game would be huge for the Redskins!!! The Eagles are flying high and I know that they will be favored to win this game! However I think if the Skins offensive line would block for McNabb,We could win this game with some focus.....Hail!!!

Posted by: DirtyDrynn27 | November 13, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

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