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Mike Shanahan: Brandon Banks could play Monday

By Jason Reid

Although returner Brandon Banks is in his first week of rehab after knee surgery, he could play Monday night against the Philadelphia Eagles at FedEx Field, Coach Mike Shanahan said Wednesday

Meeting with reporters after practice at Redskins Park, Shanahan would not rule out Banks, the dynamic rookie who underwent surgery during the bye week. Shanahan previously said that Banks's rehab would take two to three weeks, but Banks could return much faster than initially expected.

"He's doing a good job. He's doing a good job in rehab," Shanahan said. "He's working, getting three or four treatments a day. He's making strides. We'll probably get a good feeling on Friday, if there's a chance."

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Shanahan rarely provides detailed information on injuries or how players fare during rehab, stirring speculation he revealed that much about Banks in an effort to keep the Eagles guessing. Banks gained 53 yards on his first punt return of the season during the Redskins' 17-12 victory over the Eagles in Week 4 at Lincoln Financial Field.

It would be surprising if Shanahan permitted Banks to play a week after surgery when the standard recovery process is longer. Banks is one of the Redskins' top playmakers, and it is doubtful Shanahan would risk losing him for the season if his knee has not completely healed.

The diminutive Banks is listed at 5 foot 7 and 155 pounds, "and I think a lot has to do with his size," Shanahan said of Banks's potentially speedy recovery. "Not as much weight on the knee. At least we're keeping our fingers crossed. There is a chance. He's working pretty hard."

Banks injured his knee in the 37-25 loss to Detroit in Week 8. An MRI exam last Tuesday revealed a meniscus tear. Banks traveled to Birmingham, Ala. on Wednesday to meet with renowned orthopedist James Andrews, who recommended immediate surgery.

In the first eight games, Banks ranked second in the NFL with 234 yards on punt returns and third with a 13.8-yard average. Banks's 27.3-yard average on kickoff returns ranks seventh in the NFL.

The Redskins wasted Banks's outstanding effort in the first-half-closing loss to the Lions at Ford Field. During the team's final game before the break, Banks averaged 35.5 yards on six kickoff returns, scored a 96-yard touchdown and had another long touchdown return nullified because of a penalty.

Nickel cornerback Phillip Buchanon, whom Banks supplanted as the primary punt returner earlier this season, probably would handle punts against Philadelphia. Running back Chad Simpson could be the team's primary kickoff returner against the Eagles.

By Jason Reid  | November 10, 2010; 4:00 PM ET
Categories:  Brandon Banks, Special teams  
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Comments

Come on shanny...BB ain't playing.

Posted by: PlayAction | November 10, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Lies...Lies...and more Lies....

Who do you think really beleives this B.S.?

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 10, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

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Wow, deja vu. RI hits its first two bagger of the season.

The posts are coming fast and furious, and we still ain't learning much.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 10, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"The diminutive Banks is listed at 5 foot 7 and 155 pounds..."

He's gained weight since training camp! Don't most players lose weight during the season?

Posted by: Alan4 | November 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Lol. Shanny plays the injury game like no other. If BB plays Monday, I will literally die of amazement.

Posted by: roccoskins | November 10, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Thats right Shanny is lying or is he we will never know, maybe he should be like Zorn and give the media and other teams an exact blue print of what is going on each week. That worked out great for Zorn.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 10, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

More Shanahan injury misinformation. I wish the once I could trust what the guy said was accurate.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 10, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This line of reasoning makes no sense to me. Why would you want him to tell the whole truth? Is it not better to keep the opponent guessing? Is your peace of mind more important than gaining a competitive edge on the Beagles?

I'd like to think you were betting a 6 figure sum on the Skins- then I'd understand- but absent that I think you should be glad that we have a lying, scheming, conniving P r i c k as head coach....

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | November 10, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

waiting,

Didn't you know all the great coaches tell the truth about everything, there is no room for lying in Pro sports. Zorn made sure that every team and media member knew exactly what the Skins were doing each week, and it worked for him.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm cool with the lying....but the bad lying is debateable......

But ofcourse, I am irrelavant.....Only what the Eagles think is what matters....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 10, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Dude's got a little knee and it takes a little less time to heal that a full size knee.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

But ofcourse, I am irrelavant.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 10, 2010 5:14 PM

If all of us realized where we stand as clearly as you, 4th, the blog would be much more pleasant. Most of us think that everyone else is irrelevant, except for us. And all of us know in our hearts that Diesel44 really is irrelevant.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

..he should lie like a rug if he feels it gives them any advantage. It's his job to win games, not to appease the press or the fans.

Seriously, it makes no difference to me: I'll know whose playing when I turn on the TV and I see them line up on the field.

Another thing to note: the media gets bitter about that, but they can shove it. If they can use "Unnamed sources" to try and burn down an organization, then a coach can lie to them about whose healthy and who isn't.

I mean, "unnamed sources" could be flat out made-up in their own right. How would we know?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 10, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

"And all of us know in our hearts that Diesel44 really is irrelevant."

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:36 PM

You're confused, again. You cleary meant irreverent.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse


Dude's got a little knee and it takes a little less time to heal that a full size knee.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:20 PM |

good stuff diesel

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I cans spellz

than instead of that

clearly instead of cleary

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and I'll be ready to play too if the effects of this blue thing lasts less than 4 hours.

Posted by: iubiquity | November 10, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse


did you just wake up diesel ? I usually screw up in the morning

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I cans spellz

than instead of that

clearly instead of cleary

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:48 PM

After this I'm more convinced: irrelevant.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

RI is not iphone friendly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

RI is not iphone friendly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:54 PM

I think the problem is that your fingers are too fat for the itty-bitty keypad on that thing. Maybe if you punched the letters in with your willy-wiggler you'd hit the right keys?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

your willy-wiggler you'd hit the right keys?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:59 PM

I tried it and this was the result.

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Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse


your willy-wiggler you'd hit the right keys?

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 5:59 PM

I tried it and this was the result.

fjqh3fbhpvbpwi etvbhqah[o ifrqavbav abpub pebweuvb ae[vrjanvevu9qnvup bqvpwb wt[rbu VEVNUERVBPAEVBAQUVBAQ BWPVHWVPUQBVFPstvg5fgfvsrvbstrrv'

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 6:04 PM |

now try your right hand willy-wiggler

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

RI is not iphone friendly.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

So you want an RIphone?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Trouble is, this coach appears to be able to lie so well -- and with a straight face too -- that you just can't believe a word he says about anything.

I realize he was handed a losing hand by the widely discredited former front office and coaching staffs -- and therefore must search for any sort of competitive edge he can find -- but I still would hope to see some semblance of truth and integrity out of the dude.

His constant litany of lies about so many things -- even those things that he shouldn't need to lie about -- is rather sad, and even pathetic.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse


His constant litany of lies about so many things -- even those things that he shouldn't need to lie about -- is rather sad, and even pathetic.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2010 6:32 PM |

dude, hold the guys dignity up like it was an x-ray. at 4-4 you have got to give this coach credit for where we are. after all, how would you like to deal with AH, a roster that is billed as talented, and no matter what anyone says, has to deal with snyder and his win now vision

I give shanahan credit for .500 football in a watered down nfl

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/TNma9s-EUHI/AAAAAAAAYtk/kUCcHQ7E-QI/s512/ri29.jpg

What do people think of mimicking these uniforms for the yet to exist RI flag football team.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

If everyone knows your lying, then the lie isn't misinformation.

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 10, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

hess --

So you're saying it's not his fault that he apparently feels compelled to lie about damn near everything?

Yeah, it's a 4-4 record at the moment -- but it will probably be no better than 6-10 by season's end.

So what is so freaking dignified or justifiable about any of that?

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the lying is: he's telling us haynesworth is expendable, DT isn't as good as Williams/Galloway, licky's better than Dock, mcNabb doesn't know the 2 min O, Bidwell made the team, LJ made it through week 2 THEN sucked, etc, etc

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 10, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Ooh he's 4-4, Zorn started 6-2

he's not a good personnel guy. Dealt a bad hand? He got a top 10 defense with a dominant lineman, the # 4 pick, an owner that will buy any FA you want, and 4-12 expectations. What a terrible hand!

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 10, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

So, a gimpy portis wants to play and Torian is recovering from a hamstring. It would be nice to have a healthy portis and a healthy Torain, but the key word is HEALTHY. The skins do have a healthy RB or two that can play on Monday. It would be bordering on incompetence should Shanny's only have portis and Torain as the only active RB on Monday.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 10, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

We are all a bit tired of the constant misinformation and mystery. But I don't think there are too many NE fans who want Bilicheat run out of town for doing the same exact thing. Just based on his record, doesn't MS deserve at least a full season before he is judged?

I do miss the integrity of Gibbs, but those days are long over, folks.

Posted by: NYPDee | November 10, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Last Game having only Torain and Williams active already crossed the border of incompetence

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 10, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

What do people think of mimicking these uniforms for the yet to exist RI flag football team.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 6:53 PM

If those are the uniforms, you will get zero signups.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 10, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

But bellicheck has 2 first rounders, 2 second rounders, 2 third rounders, 2 fourth rounds, 2 fifths, and 2 sixths and are already talented

Posted by: pabrian2003 | November 10, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Dude's got a little knee and it takes a little less time to heal that a full size knee.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 5:20 PM

Funny

oh, and el beepo? You're the only one of us thats relevant.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

so a few posts back there was a quote, i think, from anthony armstrong saying he was faster than banks. wtf? that was a joke, right?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | November 10, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

His constant litany of lies about so many things -- even those things that he shouldn't need to lie about -- is rather sad, and even pathetic.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2010 6:32 PM |

dude, hold the guys dignity up like it was an x-ray. at 4-4 you have got to give this coach credit for where we are. after all, how would you like to deal with AH, a roster that is billed as talented, and no matter what anyone says, has to deal with snyder and his win now vision

I give shanahan credit for .500 football in a watered down nfl


Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 6:51 PM |

Come on Hessy baby! He's the vicmeister, a God in his own mind. He would have had this team in the Superbowl after only 8 games. Don't you know this man ALWAYS comes with solutions instead of airheaded b!tching, moaning, and passed judgement? Just the same as I'm the SJKing President of the whole SJKIng world!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

His constant litany of lies about so many things -- even those things that he shouldn't need to lie about -- is rather sad, and even pathetic.

Posted by: Vic1 | November 10, 2010 6:32 PM

If he's lying so the eagles waste time game planning for guys who'll be wearing sweatpants, then that's a good thing. Pathetic is spending so much time following football and completely missing that.

Posted by: mack1 | November 10, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs had integrity because he knew he could build such a strong team where he didn't need to lie, his team was going to kick butt regardless.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

We are all a bit tired of the constant misinformation and mystery. But I don't think there are too many NE fans who want Bilicheat run out of town for doing the same exact thing. Just based on his record, doesn't MS deserve at least a full season before he is judged?

I do miss the integrity of Gibbs, but those days are long over, folks.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 10, 2010 7:16 PM |

I'm not at all tired of it. Integrity was great when we had it, but integrity in the NFL has almost become extinct at every level. I love the fact that Shanny screws with everyone possible, ESPECIALLY the trainwreck media. Screw those SJKholes, they spread more lies and disinformation than a skinhead holocaust denier.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap, little Dave Meggett just got 30 years for rape and burglary.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs had integrity because he knew he could build such a strong team where he didn't need to lie, his team was going to kick butt regardless.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 7:46 PM |

Thats funny Gibbs lied to the media all the time, Gibbs 1 and 2.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 10, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I dont care about any of this all i want is for this football team to go to the playoffs and make an impact. If we cant go to the superbowl then we can at least get something built for next season.

Posted by: wattsicon | November 10, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Thats funny Gibbs lied to the media all the time, Gibbs 1 and 2.
Posted by: Flounder21 | November 10, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Yes but he knew what he was doing.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I do miss the integrity of Gibbs, but those days are long over, folks.


Posted by: NYPDee | November 10, 2010 7:16 PM |

Integrity? Guy ran out on his contract twice and with no warning. Second time he really screwed Snyder who wasn't set up at all for a coaching search. Snyder went in to discuss an extension and Gibbs was out the door saying "Extend this, sukka. I got a racing team to run."

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Thats funny Gibbs lied to the media all the time, Gibbs 1 and 2.


Posted by: Flounder21 | November 10, 2010 8:01 PM

Yeah, but it was never to the point where it became insulting. St. Joe would never run the the cardio, hammy, unfamiliar with the offense crap Shanny is putting out there. He owned his f ups. "They played their guts out" for St. Joe.

Posted by: dcwun | November 10, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but it was never to the point where it became insulting. St. Joe would never run the the cardio, hammy, unfamiliar with the offense crap Shanny is putting out there. He owned his f ups. "They played their guts out" for St. Joe.

Posted by: dcwun | November 10, 2010 8:25 PM

I love Joe Gibbs. No Homo..

But he would have lied and said that McNabb was super smart and that he fought his guts out.

McNabb feels insulted? His play has been insulting. I'm insulted that we traded a 2nd & a 3rd/4th for him. I'm insulted that most of the MO-RONS in town are fixated on a bad decision to bench McNabb and not the terrible play of McNabb.

F McNabb as an Eagle

Root for the team and therefore McNabb now

F McNabb if he doesn't turn it around and EARN an extension and plays for another team next year

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

If I were a coach, I would parse every single word I said to the media to make sure it wasn't true. The media aren't your friends, they're pesky gnats that the league says you have to put up with a certain number of times per week.

A sports press conference ain't a witness stand, it's psy-ops.

There are very few times when truth-telling in sports is benign, and that's really only when you can't be stopped, a la Russ Grimm/Randy White/50-Gut.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 10, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

**Warning** This is as close as I'll get to a political discussion on RI.

Little Johnny goes to his dad and asks, "What is politics?" Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way. I'm the leader of the family, so let's call me the President. Mommy is the administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you The People. The nanny, well, consider her The Working Class. Your baby brother, we'll call him The Future. Now go think about this and see if it makes sense."

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what Dad has said. Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying and runs to his room only to find that his diapers are very soiled. So the little boy goes to his parents' room. Mom is sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he looks through the peephole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed.

The next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I understand what politics is now."

"Good son, tell me in your own words then what politics are."

The little boy replies, "Well, while the President is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s h i t."

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

This is as close as I will get to a political discussion on RI...

Little Johnny goes to his dad and asks, "What is politics?" Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way. I'm the leader of the family, so let's call me the President. Mommy is the administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you The People. The nanny, well, consider her The Working Class. Your baby brother, we'll call him The Future. Now go think about this and see if it makes sense."

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what Dad has said. Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying and runs to his room only to find that his diapers are very soiled. So the little boy goes to his parents' room. Mom is sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he looks through the peephole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed.

The next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I understand what politics is now."

"Good son, tell me in your own words then what politics are."

The little boy replies, "Well, while the President is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s h i t."

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

sons of b!tches. They held it for 10+ mins and then screwed me.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

The little boy replies, "Well, while the President is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep s h i t."


Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:53 PM |

This is almost it but instead Mommy aka the Govt. should be in the safe robbing it blind.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

sons of b!tches. They held it for 10+ mins and then screwed me.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:56 PM

So then in your scenario RI is the Justice System

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Integrity? Guy ran out on his contract twice and with no warning. Second time he really screwed Snyder who wasn't set up at all for a coaching search. Snyder went in to discuss an extension and Gibbs was out the door saying "Extend this, sukka. I got a racing team to run."

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 8:12 PM

beep-beep, it's time to put the bong-bong down Dude.

Joe set up the front office for his transition, it was Snyder who F'd it up royally because he wanted his toy back to play with.

Grilliams was to be the next HC. Saunders would get a second year as OC to install Air Coryall and the train would just keep on rolling.

Instead Snyder fires Grilliams because he won't let Danny-boy play backseat coach/GM, fires Suanders, and hires Zorn to be OC. He then decides to pitch the entire system and go West Coast under the brilliant insights provided by ol' bug-eyes Cerato, and after driving off every decent HC candidate, bumps Z-man to HC.

Grilliams and Saunders might not have been perfect, but it would have been miles better than the flaming train wreck that Zorn and Cerratto brought home for our viewing pleasure.

But yeah, your right - it was Joe's fault.

I wasn't too thrilled with Gibbs 2.0 but the embarrassment of the last 2 years was not of his making. Place that flaming turd pile at the feet of Dan Snyder.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - "Coryell" not "Coryall"

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

But yeah, your right - it was Joe's fault.

I wasn't too thrilled with Gibbs 2.0 but the embarrassment of the last 2 years was not of his making. Place that flaming turd pile at the feet of Dan Snyder.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:44 PM

Wow, you missed the whole point of the debate from the beginning. This was a discussion about honesty and a bunch of people said "I wish he was as honest as Gibbs" when in fact Gibbs did what El Beepo said, bailed on 2 contracts. What happened after that has nothing to do with the discussion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you missed the whole point of the debate from the beginning. This was a discussion about honesty and a bunch of people said "I wish he was as honest as Gibbs" when in fact Gibbs did what El Beepo said, bailed on 2 contracts. What happened after that has nothing to do with the discussion.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 9:50 PM

Perhaps you should re-read his post.

Here, let me help you:

"Second time he really screwed Snyder who wasn't set up at all for a coaching search."

That's what I was responding to.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly is playing too.

Posted by: MadeRED | November 10, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

F politics. I missed the point of the debate. From the beginning.

I was on time re: Portis groin mishap.

Here's my .02 on Banks…

He had a small tear in the avascular portion of his lateral meniscus. This part of the meniscus has no blood supply and thus can't heal on its own. Your surgeon goes in, snips the part of the meniscus that f*cked, and you're good. There's nothing to heal other than the scope pathways. 2 weeks with rehab, and you could probably play.

Here's hoping.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 10, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

"Second time he really screwed Snyder who wasn't set up at all for a coaching search."

That's what I was responding to.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:55 PM

Well, you rattled on. Not exactly a response. Snyder was trying to extend Gibbs, not look for a replacement.

Your idea is that Gibbs should be able to dictate to Snyder who would succeed him and that makes Gibbs a man of honor and integrity. And if Snyder wanted something other than what Gibbs had set up for him, then that's Snyder's fault for not going along with Gibbs plan.

You and I have a different understanding of integrity.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 10, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Also, I'll point out that Walter Payton got scoped on Sunday PM and played the next week. Banks does not equal Payton, but it has been done.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 10, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

sons of b!tches. They held it for 10+ mins and then screwed me.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 10, 2010 8:56 PM |

Dude - they wasn't the only ones that screwed you. See below. Ouch! Double ouch!

And Diesel44 is still trying to sound like he has a "high football IQ."

Same as it ever was, I suppose.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | October 16, 2010 8:12 PM |

Posted by: ElDrano | November 10, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Here, let me help you:

"Second time he really screwed Snyder who wasn't set up at all for a coaching search."

That's what I was responding to.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 9:55 PM |

Here let me help you you ass. You missed the phukin' point of the whole argument and you still look like a know it all ass that doesn't sctually know anything.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

There is and there never shall be anything worse than the Country Music Awards.

The Dallas Cowboys are really, really, country-music kinda bad.

Looks like the gang's all here so hello everyone.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Can someone enlighten me? What was Grilliams' stance as the potential Redskins HC about front office control? Was he OK with the Dan and Vinny show or did he make a stink about it? What exactly were they talking about all night long over at the Snyder mansion that night?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 10, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Scamp -

Name calling?

Really?

Get over yourself. I didn't miss the point of the discussion, I responded to what I considered an incorrect statement and explained why

Sorry if it didn't fit the linear path your little discussion group, but it was getting a little played out IMO. As much as you think otherwise, it's not your blog, you are not the moderator and I can post whatever I want. So pound sand.

Beeps -

"Your idea is that Gibbs should be able to dictate to Snyder who would succeed him and that makes Gibbs a man of honor and integrity. And if Snyder wanted something other than what Gibbs had set up for him, then that's Snyder's fault for not going along with Gibbs plan.

You and I have a different understanding of integrity."

===

Apparently we do have a different perspective on this.

Part of the plan for Gibbs the Team President was to set the foundation for long term success and stability. That included setting up the passing of the torch whenever his departure happened.

That's one of the big reasons Grilliams came here was the assurance that he would succeed Gibbs. They even put a One Million Dollar Guarantee clause in his contract that if he did not get the HC job, he would get a cool mil as compensation. I'm not aware of any other Assistant ever getting such a clause, but I have done no research to know one way or the other.

So to say the Gibbs "dictated to Snyder" is kind of stupid when Snyder agreed to the clause in Grilliams contract in the first place.

Also, as long as Scamp requires all of us to pitch in on the integrity discussion, I don't think Joe's early departure was from lack of integrity.

He was approaching 70, and was (is) a diabetic. The long hours he regularly puts in during the season were probably getting to be too much. As stated above, he had already laid the foundation for an orderly transition to his hand chosen coaches, so the impact of his departure should not have caused the upheaval that followed. He lived up to his part of the deal.

From here, you can pick up from my earlier post...

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

@Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 10:36 PM
County music isn't even country music anymore. It's just pop music sung with a twang.

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 10, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Good god don't get me started on County Music!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Scamp -

Name calling?

Really?

Get over yourself. I didn't miss the point of the discussion, I responded to what I considered an incorrect statement and explained why

Sorry if it didn't fit the linear path your little discussion group, but it was getting a little played out IMO. As much as you think otherwise, it's not your blog, you are not the moderator and I can post whatever I want. So pound sand.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 10:51 PM |

Like I said you little self aggrandized pissant. No one really gives a sh!t what you think so you can take your arrogant ass back to your imaginary pedastal. Post whatever you want, I could care less if you want to sound like the idiot in the back of the classroom talking Grammar in Math class. Pretty funny to se some reject from the short bus trying to rationalize his way out of his own SJK up. Nice try though.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse


Good god don't get me started on County Music!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:03 PM |

so what do you think about country music smack ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Edvar -- making some fine points there. Can be no real argument Snyder and Vinny, botched a transition that Gibbs had teed up for them.

My only question about Gibbs' departure is Vinny. Snyder claims that Gibbs recommended Vinny run the organization...can that possibly be true? If so, how could Gibbs be that dumb?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 10, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Good god don't get me started on County Music!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:03 PM |

so what do you think about country music smack ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report ab

Um, what is the square root of country music?

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

My only question about Gibbs' departure is Vinny. Snyder claims that Gibbs recommended Vinny run the organization...can that possibly be true? If so, how could Gibbs be that dumb?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 10, 2010 11:09 PM |

I never heard that before. It can't be true can it? I mean, is anyone that stupid?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse


I never heard that before. It can't be true can it? I mean, is anyone that stupid?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:20 PM |
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sure, after all, snyder is the big dummy that hired cerrato in the first place

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse


Good god don't get me started on County Music!

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:03 PM |

so what do you think about country music smack ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:05 PM | Report ab

Um, what is the square root of country music?

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 10, 2010 11:16 PM |

square dance ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:05 PM

Hey Scamp -

It's kinda funny receiving profanity laced tirades and being called an ass by someone trying to have a discussion about integrity.

Do you have any idea how foolish you sound?

Sorry you couldn't keep up with the conversation change. I'll try to type slower next time.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

coosign edvar and kaast -

The JG hire was clearly meant to establish a stable and winning culture, and Dan screwed it all when he didn't hire Grilliams.

Gimme Wille, Waylon and the Boys or give me death.

Posted by: aaarmstr | November 10, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Eh, never mind. Read below: Snyder says he got a positive assessment from Gibbs about Cerrato, not necessarily a recommendation to promote him. Pretty obvious from the interveiw that Dan-O is making excuses and trying to drag Gibbs into his own poopy mess.
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From Hogs Haven interview w/Snyder:

HH: The progression of Vinny Cerrato reporting to Joe Gibbs and then being elevated to GM. Would it be fair to say that his promotion was a way for you to give him that responsibility as a--I don't want to use the term "last straw" or "final chance"--but that is kind of where I am going...

DAN: I didn't see it that way. I saw it more that we came off a playoff game, we went through one of the most terrible tragedies and adversity that any team has ever faced, and this guy (Cerrato) was there the whole time, and worked for Joe, and if you asked Joe, did a good job for Joe. So, I promoted him. Whether it was the wrong decision, obviously he is no longer here and we're going in a fresh new direction. And it's as simple as that.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 10, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

It's kinda funny receiving profanity laced tirades and being called an ass by someone trying to have a discussion about integrity.

Do you have any idea how foolish you sound?

Sorry you couldn't keep up with the conversation change. I'll try to type slower next time.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 11:27 PM |
You know what's even funnier? You're the one who couldn't keep up with the conversation. You couldn't understand what the big people were actually talking about so you tried to change the subject to start an agrument with someone so you could sound all "knowledgy." I'm glad you think I sound foolish. You come across as some self important, know it all d0uchebag, which I'm sure is exactly what you are. Go back and read my stance on it homey. You wouldn't want to talk out of your ass without having the actual statements and facts in front of you would you? Of course you would.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse


Go back and read my stance on it homey. You wouldn't want to talk out of your ass without having the actual statements and facts in front of you would you? Of course you would.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:37 PM |

scamp, what happened to your oath ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

scamp, what happened to your oath ?

Posted by: hessone | November 10, 2010 11:44 PM |

Jeez didn't you read my stance either? I'm all for lying!

Just kidding. Sometimes I get ticked at some of these holier than thou types that think they know EVERYTHING when in fact they can't even follow the topic. Not saying he doesn't have the right to question something that was said and give his own opinion. He does. Just don't act like some uppity piece of SJK when someone calls you on the inablilty to follow a conversation and attempts to clue you in on what we were talking about.

Anyways, I'm over it. I wonder who our RB is going to be this weekend. Does this new guy get the start right of the bat?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:37 PM

Scamp, you're really starting to sound like pabrian2003.

I couldn't keep up? Dude, I took it to the next step and others have followed. So what's your problem?

Obviously, you have no tolerance for a well reasoned argument, so you have to revert to name calling. "Know it all d bag?" "you little self aggrandized pissant?"

C'mon.

The problem here is that you started up some sh!t with me and now you can't get out of it, so you start calling me names and making stupid proclamations like "You couldn't understand what the big people were actually talking about..." to cover up the fact that you've got nothing else.

Acting like a couple of 14 year old girls with cramps isn't gonna get either of us anywhere, and makes this blog a drag, so I'm done here.

Peace. Tomorrow's another day.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Attempt at levity..

A man kills a deer and takes it home to cook for dinner. Both he and his wife decide that they won't tell the kids what kind of meat it is, but will give them a clue and let them guess.

The kids were eager to know what kind of meat was on their plates; so they begged their dad for a clue.

"Well", dad said, "It's what mommy calls me sometimes".

The little girl screams to her brother

"Don't eat it, it's an ass hole.."

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 11, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The problem here is that you started up some sh!t with me and now you can't get out of it, so you start calling me names and making stupid proclamations like "You couldn't understand what the big people were actually talking about..." to cover up the fact that you've got nothing else.

Acting like a couple of 14 year old girls with cramps isn't gonna get either of us anywhere, and makes this blog a drag, so I'm done here.

Peace. Tomorrow's another day.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 11:58 PM

Whateves dude, you win. I've had enough.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 11, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Acting like a couple of 14 year old girls with cramps isn't gonna get either of us anywhere, and makes this blog a drag, so I'm done here.

Peace. Tomorrow's another day.

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2010 11:58 PM |

Whateves dude, you win. I'm over it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 11, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse


Anyways, I'm over it. I wonder who our RB is going to be this weekend. Does this new guy get the start right of the bat?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 10, 2010 11:50 PM |

for a team that signs alot of RB, it seems the redskins keep running out of them

lets see here, we got TWilliams on the left side, so we'll trade down and draft a couple of linemen, say, a RT and a RG. ok, that takes care of the right side. damn, no picks left. trade fat ass and anyone else you can and make it happen, a C and LG. we now have a young and solid line that needs a year together to cure

then we can really see if we have TALENT at the TALENT positions. not to mention a solid year the o-line will have to work together. figure out who can play those positions well and use the next years draft and FA's to finalize your championship Washington Redskins

Posted by: hessone | November 11, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

for a team that signs alot of RB, it seems the redskins keep running out of them

Posted by: hessone | November 11, 2010 12:09 AM |

For a team with such a terrible O line we're lucky any of them are still alive.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 11, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I may be a little late to weigh in on the subject, but I don't want a coach that lies ALL of the time. I want a coach that mixes lies and the truth so well that you can't tell which is which.

With that I bid you all good night!

Posted by: kaasmaster | November 11, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Where's that decorum guy when you need him? You know, the "YOU LIE" guy?

Need him sitting behind Shanahan yelling that out every other word.

Shanahan may not even be able to help himself. I'm not even sure if he KNOWS the truth.

Whatever. iH8dallas already told me to "book" our victory, so, I'm not even worried.

Spoiler alert!

(we win by 3 and Vick gets hurt again... he he he)

Shhhhh!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2010 3:40 AM | Report abuse

And I agree with kassmaster.

You can't lie ALL THE DANG TIME!

That defeats the purpose. You gotta sprinkle a bit of truth in to throw 'em off.

Like I said, I don't think Shananadingdong is doing it on purpose. I think it's just part of his personality [disorder].

His head is seriously about to burst into flame, and nobody says a word about it.

Can we get a journalist to ask about this? J Reid?! Somebody?

Ask the man, "Why is your head so red?"

And the answer will be the opposite of whatever he says. Because he lies ALL the time.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2010 3:54 AM | Report abuse

Chad Simpson runs the ball on Monday Night.

Book it!

yay!

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2010 3:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey, why no "Mike Shanahan Coach's Show?"

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 11, 2010 4:31 AM | Report abuse

Redskins notes and analysis 11/10/10
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/10/10 6:58 PM EST

1. RB Clinton Portis (groin) was able to do more in practice today than Ryan Torain (hamstring). Still not sure if that’s a good sign for Portis or a bad one for Torain. Even Mike Shanahan isn’t certain what it means for Monday night. The problem for Portis is that he’s already missed four games and it’s not like he could stay in great shape with a groin injury. That’s what could keep him out another game.

2. PR/KR Brandon Banks (knee) might be able to play Monday, Shanahan said. He was originally expected to miss two to three weeks after his bye week surgery. But his small size (155 pounds) means there’s less pounding on his knee, so that helps. He’s also been running on the treadmill and receiving treatment three to four times a day. Still, it’s hard to imagine him playing so soon after the surgery (it would be nine days).

3. QB Donovan McNabb’s hamstrings have improved, Shanahan said, but he’s still not at full speed. That’s not good as the Redskins move into the second half of the season. Shanahan said the Redskins did not work on the hurry-up offense Wednesday, but he would like to do so this week. It’s been six weeks since they ran the two-minute offense in practice. Six weeks.

4. LB Brian Orakpo said he spoke with Charles Mann before the Chicago Bears game, then went out and recorded two sacks. Orakpo also said he talked with Bruce Smith recently and picked up a couple things.

“I’m a guy open to always trying to get better,” he said. “All these great guys that have been a part of this game, been a part of this organization to help tweak my game and help me progress as a premier pass rusher.”

The truth is, playing where he does suits him. Orakpo is an explosive player; when he was several yards off the ball in a 4-3, some of that was lost. The key is that Orakpo stays low when he’s in a two-point stance and that enables him to explode into linemen. That’s something Andre Carter struggled to do.

5. Orakpo said he doesn’t want to go back to rushing from a three-point stance. “I love how this defense is, I love how they’re using me,” he said. “It will only get better.”

6. RB James Davis is becoming the most well-known practice squad back. But don’t look for him to be promoted until the last minute. Why do otherwise? However, it’s doubtful Davis would have turned down Carolina if he didn’t think there was a chance he’d stay on the practice squad here.

“The money was about the same,” he said, “but I thought this was the better situation for me. If I’m moved up it will work out great for me in this system. I don’t know if I would have went to Carolina, I probably would never have been activated at all. I would have been on the 53, but would I have been activated? Here, they’re gonna activate me if I go to the 53.”

Davis said he always wanted to play in Denver’s one-cut system when Shanahan was the coach.

more...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 5:10 AM | Report abuse

continued...

7. Dallas native Anthony Armstrong was asked if he’s getting a kick out of seeing the Cowboys struggle. The answer: Yes he does.
“It’s bad because down deep I do kind of giggle,” he said. “I try to stay out of it, but I do kind of giggle down deep….Everyone down there, they switched over from Cowboys fans to Redskins fans.”

8. In the first meeting vs. Philadelphia, the Redskins had success being physical with the wideouts. The secondary expects the Eagles to line their receivers up a little differently, maybe further off the ball

“They can spread guys out there; they had a lot of sets where they were condensed and allowed us to jam them,” safety Reed Doughty said. “They can do all that kind of stuff.”

9. Orakpo said he thinks Vick is playing better than he did in his Atlanta days. While it’s hard for a second-year guy to have that sort of perspective, his head coach agrees with him.

“Without question,” Shanahan said. “He’s doing everything better, just executing the offense better. He seems more relaxed in the pocket and he looks as fast as he did before, which I didn’t think was possible because when I saw him come back the first year I really saw a guy drop off, didn’t look like he had his speed. I wasn’t sure if he could get it back, but you can see very quickly he has his speed back.”

10. A little plug for the Redskins: They’re holding a free health screening for veterans and their families in the locker room at FedEx Field from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday. They’ll conduct 15 health screenings (with 70 doctors in attendance).

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Redskins-notes-and-analysis-111010-107083444.html#ixzz14y1shbl3

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

"Shanahan said the Redskins did not work on the hurry-up offense Wednesday, but he would like to do so this week. It’s been six weeks since they ran the two-minute offense in practice. Six weeks."


Anyone else disturbed by this? The team that can't win a game by more than a touchdown foregoing the 2-minute drill in practice? Really? And it's DONOVAN'S fault we lost the Detroit game? UFB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 5:28 AM | Report abuse

From that turd Matt Moseley at ESPN.com:

Midseason Stock Watch: Redskins

Where they stand: The Redskins have already equaled their '09 win total, but 4-4 still seems pretty unsatisfying considering how things have transpired. The loss in Detroit marred what could've been an excellent first half of the season. But Mike Shanahan's decision to bench Donovan McNabb late in the game has become the story of this season. The Redskins are a much-improved team under Shanahan, but no one's talking about that angle right now. And that's completely understandable.

Falling: Shanahan ended his honeymoon phase with a head-scratching decision. Everyone cut him slack on his overbearing treatment of the Albert Haynesworth controversy, but his explanations of the McNabb benching didn't hold water. It's hard to know what to make of this defense right now. Jim Haslett's unit gives up way too many yards, but they're among the league leaders in terms of takeaways. The transition to a 3-4 scheme is still a work in progress. The Redskins' punting situation has been pitiful lately. Hunter Smith hasn't exactly fortified the situation with his 26-yard blasts. And it's worth noting McNabb has played poorly for much of the season. You certainly can't place all the blame for that on the Shanahans.

Rising: Ryan Torain was released following training camp, but he was quickly re-signed and has become the team's feature running back. I'm not to sure what to make of his long-term prospects, but he's bailed the Skins out this season. And rookie Brandon Banks has been sensational in the return game. I'd find a way to get him on the field with McNabb. He's a playmaker and this team started the season without enough firepower on offense. And that's still the case. Wide receiver Anthony Armstrong doesn't have the pedigree to be starting in the NFL, but you have to admire how he's made some big plays for McNabb. I'd also say that DeAngelo Hall's career is on the rise. He's among the league leaders in interceptions and they always seem to happen at critical moments.

Midseason MVP: I'll go with Hall. He has been volatile at times, but I think some of that may have been necessary. He has spearheaded a takeaway movement. That's made a big difference this season.

Outlook: The Skins are two games behind the Giants and I just don't think they match up well with that team. The Giants will feast on this banged-up offensive line. I think the Skins will finish the season 8-8. And based on last season's results, that's something to take pride in. But again, all eyes will be on Shanahan to see how he handles the quarterback situation. My guess is that McNabb will be playing elsewhere in 2010.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Another midseason report card...this one from Foxsports.com:

Washington (4-4)
Summary: What was initially considering an overachieving team is coming back to earth because of a quarterback controversy and leaky defense.

MVP: Cornerback DeAngelo Hall. With all due respect to Darrelle Revis of the New York Jets, Hall was the NFL’s top cornerback during the first half of the season. Hall almost single-handedly led Washington to a 17-14 victory over Chicago with four interceptions, including one he returned for a score. Hall also posted Washington’s only touchdown in a 13-7 season-opening victory over Dallas.

Biggest disappointment: Donovan McNabb. McNabb’s up-and-down play and practice habits were two of the reasons the Shanahans (head coach Mike and offensive coordinator Kyle) benched McNabb late in their last loss to Detroit. Just as disturbing: Washington surrendered a 2010 second-round draft choice for a fading quarterback who may depart in free agency and leave a gaping hole at the position.

Outlook: The Redskins must survive a brutal four-game stretch against Philadelphia, Tennessee, Minnesota and the New York Giants to keep their playoff hopes viable. Unlike when Mike Shanahan assumed the managerial reins in Denver during the mid-1990s, there will be no quick fix personnel-wise in Washington.

Grade: C

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Geez...is thing on?

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 11, 2010 6:57 AM | Report abuse

How can foxsports say that Donovan McNabb is the biggest disappointment? Does he block for himself? oh wait. actually, i guess he does and that's the problem. the 5 guys standing in front of him still think they are 'swinging gates'.

How can an nfl analyst blame a QB who has taken so many sacks/hurries?

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | November 11, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

"Gibbs had integrity because he knew he could build such a strong team where he didn't need to lie, his team was going to kick butt regardless.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 10, 2010 7:46 PM"


Look, I love Gibbs' coaching as much as the next guy.

But not lie?

Gibbs' was the straw that broke the camel's back in the league instituting the Practice Squad so he (and coaches like him) would stop fradulently sticking guys on the IR with "clicking knee" and other such "medical conditions".

Posted by: ThinkingMan | November 11, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

How can foxsports say that Donovan McNabb is the biggest disappointment? Does he block for himself? oh wait. actually, i guess he does and that's the problem. the 5 guys standing in front of him still think they are 'swinging gates'.

How can an nfl analyst blame a QB who has taken so many sacks/hurries?
Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU
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Seriously, how can someone who watches the games say such a thing? It's like someone making an analysis of a game based on that Stat sheet. How many more sacks would opposing teams have had if not that McNabb is difficult to get down? Lover Torrain but he is no Portis when it comes to Blitz pickup. Not a coincidence that the Pass Pro looks more vulnerable with Portis out of the line-up.

Posted by: samiismoni14 | November 11, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

How can foxsports say that Donovan McNabb is the biggest disappointment? Does he block for himself? oh wait. actually, i guess he does and that's the problem. the 5 guys standing in front of him still think they are 'swinging gates'.

How can an nfl analyst blame a QB who has taken so many sacks/hurries?

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | November 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

How can foxsports say that Donovan McNabb is the biggest disappointment? Does he block for himself? oh wait. actually, i guess he does and that's the problem. the 5 guys standing in front of him still think they are 'swinging gates'.

How can an nfl analyst blame a QB who has taken so many sacks/hurries?
Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU
=========
Seriously, how can someone who watches the games say such a thing? It's like someone making an analysis of a game based on that Stat sheet. How many more sacks would opposing teams have had if not that McNabb is difficult to get down? Lover Torrain but he is no Portis when it comes to Blitz pickup. Not a coincidence that the Pass Pro looks more vulnerable with Portis out of the line-up.

Posted by: samiismoni14 | November 11, 2010 10:27 AM
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exactly. Portis seems to have a nose for guessing at which LB is actually going to blitz and he radars that dude. He also does a great job of chipping DT/DE when he's running routes. Now I'm not saying he's the best 3rd down back in the world, but he does the stuff that gets after the defender before he clears the lane so that McNabb can still have room to step up into the pocket and deliver the ball.

any NFL analyst who can't see that a QB with reduced weapons and no time in the pocket is going to struggle through no fault of their own shouldn't have a job in that line of business.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | November 11, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

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