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Posted at 4:12 PM ET, 11/29/2010

Mike Shanahan stands behind Perry Riley

By Jason Reid

A day after rookie linebacker Perry Riley committed a costly penalty on special teams in a loss to Minnesota, Coach Mike Shanahan expressed strong support for Riley who, he said, displayed great "effort."

Riley's block in the back nullified a potential go-ahead touchdown for the Redskins on a long punt return by Brandon Banks midway through the fourth quarter of the Vikings' 17-13 victory at FedEx Field.

The Redskins thought they had taken the lead on Banks's 77-yard punt return with about 7 minutes to play. But for the second time in the half, Riley, a fourth-round pick (103rd overall) from LSU, was called for blocking in the back.

"He's gonna learn as time goes on," Shanahan said. "But that effort he gave was full speed.

"You're gonna make some mistakes, especially when you're young, but his mistake was full speed. That's part of the NFL. That's part of the growing experience."

By Jason Reid  | November 29, 2010; 4:12 PM ET
Categories:  Brandon Banks  
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Comments

Of course he will.

He drafted him.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 29, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

here's a question for all.

You can sign any of the current Redskins to a 5 year contract -- at market rates. Which guys do you sign?


My answer:
Orakpo, Lo (always room for a verstile guy), Rocky Mc, DHall, LL30 (though I'm not sure he'll be good value), Cooley, TW and Jammal Brown (watched him more these past couple games, and he seems to be doing well).

On the fringe are Armstrong, Banks and Doughty, but 5 years is more than I'd commit to for these 3.

That is just 8 guys -- and I'm not sure people will agree with me on Rocky or Brown and Lorenzo Alexander is more about versatility than about his play at OLB.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 29, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Of course Mr. Shanahan is going to stand behind Perry Riley because if he stands in front of him, he might get blocked in the back too ... and for him, that might really, really hurt.

Posted by: wizzfanzz11 | November 29, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Of course he will.

He drafted him.

Posted by: RedDMV | November 29, 2010 4:17 PM

What about the other block in the back. This jackwagon had TWO yesterday. F'em, I'd cut him.

Anybody have Robert Henson's email add.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 29, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Robert McCune anyone??

red, agreed on the last post, send anyone injured to IR, and get the kids up here...this season is ovah....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 29, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"When you only have [21] plays in the second half, good things aren't going to happen," he (Shanahan) said.


Only 21 plays in 30 minutes of football?

Yikes, the Vikes D ain't that good.

But again, this is all apart of another observable team trend: for whatever reason, the offense falls asleep for extended periods in games.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"When you only have [21] plays in the second half, good things aren't going to happen," he (Shanahan) said.


Only 21 plays in 30 minutes of football?

Yikes, the Vikes D ain't that good.

But again, this is all apart of another observable team trend: for whatever reason, the offense falls asleep for extended periods in games.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

But again, this is all apart of another observable team trend: for whatever reason, the offense falls asleep for extended periods in games.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

You can tell when that is about to happen. It comes right after the the second half kickoff

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 29, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Robert McCune anyone??


I say bring back Khary Campbell.

Memba him?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1

You can tell when that is about to happen. It comes right after the the second half kickoff.

Well, yes it does.

I'd say defensive coordinators go into half time saying, "The redskins can't sustain a running game, so let's attack McNabb and press his receivers to throw their offense out of whack."

"We should get a lot of three and outs."

And you know what?

They do.

We get a running game to go with our improving passing game, and our overall offense will improve, especially inthe second half of games.


Posted by: MistaMoe | November 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Since I wasn't able to watch the game, and since the Washington Post doesn't touch on this, can somebody tell me if Banks would have made it inside the 30> without Riley blocking the defender in the back?

This sounds a lot like the people who blame the Cowboys' loss in week 1 entirely on Alex Barron.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 29, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Since I wasn't able to watch the game, and since the Washington Post doesn't touch on this, can somebody tell me if Banks would have made it inside the 30> without Riley blocking the defender in the back?

This sounds a lot like the argument that the Cowboys' lost in week 1 entirely because of Alex Barron.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 29, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Diesel,
I think you would cut everyone! You still need 47 to play. Its nice we are getting him special team experience. It would be even better to speed up his development and get him on the field to find out if that midget can play. Every team in the NFL plays young guys, but us. In DC you have to learn and be in shape I guess..

Posted by: dpshultzfam | November 29, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

It seems that the outcome of Skins games depends on the size of their opponents' defensive tackles.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 29, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dpshultzfam |

After last night the Colts should cut Peyton Manning. Inexcusable, that clown threw 2 TDs to the other team.

I've never like LBs on return teams (cov teams- YES) and this joker was flagged twice last night.

Anybody have KURT GOUVEIA's email add

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 29, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

jboogie - It looked to me like Banks was already past the guy when Riley blocked him in the back - so meaningless as well as sloppy. But I still tend to agree with Shanahan - it's a lot easier to coach players with a high work rate to make fewer mistakes than to coach players with a low work rate to have a high work rate. He just better start making fewer mistakes.

Posted by: zimbar | November 29, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

But again, this is all apart of another observable team trend: for whatever reason, the offense falls asleep for extended periods in games.

Posted by: MistaMoe |

You can tell when that is about to happen. It comes right after the the second half kickoff
________________________________

That means the other team is making second half adjustments and our offensive coach can not figure out how to overcome that.

Kyle is no genius. Look at Houston what's happening to them.....

Posted by: SeedofChange | November 29, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I could find some players, not so sure about management and coaches. A definite no to five more years of Snyder.

Posted by: TheCork | November 29, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Two blocking in the back penalties in the same game is certainly awful for a special teams player. But, I'd like to say that we are talking about Perry Riley here! Someone we drafted this year, a rookie, a young'un getting some playing time. Incrementally, but steadily, youth is starting to be injected in this team. Let Riley make mistakes now on Teams--we are going to need to this kid to play ILB in the 3-4...probably NEXT YEAR! Let him get in games and get the kinks out.

Also, his block in the backs did not lose this game. There was still 7 mins. left so we don't know how it would have turned out.

Instead, we need to look at the real culprit: Kyle Shanahan. How in the world can you design such a beautiful first drive, full of wrinkles (WILDCAT!) and nuance, then lay such a dud for the rest of the game. The problem with this team is the playcalling. Really, in 17-13 game you run the ball so few times?

Further, the team installed the wrong Shanahan playbook when it comes to the PASSING game. K. Shanahan does not move the pocket, does not get McNabb out in space (except for the play to F. Davis where they go across the field. The one they used against Houston and against the Eagles. They also ran an version of it with S. Moss against St. Louis). We need what Mike Shanahan was doing in Denver with Cutler. We cannot run what Houston ran last year. The first drive yesterday looked like they recognized that--there was variety. After that, it was the same Texan crosses and deep ins from straight dropbacks.

Also, is it illegal for the Redskins to run a draw play? Fades? Hitch and Go?

Posted by: Invisman52 | November 29, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

my defensive backs coach (im a safety for my highschool team) always tells me, that the best way to learn is to get burned, i only got burned once, i learned my lesson, and he says that "if you make a mistake, make it going full speed" im a sophomore, my first year on varsity, riley, first year with the big boys, hes got a future, you watch

Posted by: redskinfreak26a | November 29, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

my defensive backs coach (im a safety for my highschool team) always tells me, that the best way to learn is to get burned, i only got burned once, i learned my lesson, and he says that "if you make a mistake, make it going full speed" im a sophomore, my first year on varsity, riley, first year with the big boys, hes got a future, you watch

Posted by: redskinfreak26a | November 29, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

let riley start he has speed I don't care if he makes mistakes or not the entire d is a mistake. another behind whipping by the giants this week.

Posted by: wathu19 | November 29, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Invisman good call on noticing the great wrinkles in the opening drive then back to predictability for the offense. It begs the question? Why?

Assuming you don't buy into my theory that the NFL is somewhat scripted in general (fixed to a degree, on a little different level than professional wrestling) then why do you think that that Shannahan sat Keiland Williams (no real explanation) and started running the kid fresh off the scrap heap, Davis. Why cut Galloway after his most productive game? Why is Haynesworth afraid to say why he was sick at the start of the game--then felt good enough to play?

Questions about this team abound. Chaos would appear to rule the day. Fans are booing, Carlos Rogers prefers to play on the road. Shannihan is apparently holding auditions on offense, with no explanation why Kieland Williams does not run. All very confusing--unless you accept that there are things going on that are unseen, unspoken, unrevealed.

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Posted by: itkonlyyou407 | November 29, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

The problem is the O line and the Defense. You can't run with a lousy line. Which means you become predictable. They stuffed our run on every try. It isn't K Shanny's fault. We haven't had a great run game since the Hogs. Great teams have great O lines and great D's. Our O line has sucked for years and years. It's the heartbeat of any offense. We replace the leg, the arm....and wonder why the body is no good when the heart is shot. Hello????
The only thing keeping us in games the last few years was our D. Now that we're last in the league in that, along with no O line.......well, 6 - 10 is what we'll be. Sad, but true. I'd still be talking to Cowher and tempt him with complete control. Hire and fire who he wants. Send him a blank check for his salary.. At least the guy is a tough guy, and a great coach. Shanny isn't who we thought....Haslett and the 3 - 4 is ridiculous. We went from No. 4 or 5 in D to last. No excuse. Cowher would have heads for that!! And he'd build an O line!!

Posted by: Riggo2 | November 30, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

I like Shahahans response and his attitude. These guys are giving 100 percent but are not very good.

Posted by: HelloNewman53 | November 30, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Shanahan is just doing what he has to in support of a young player. More important is that it was this young man's second penalty for the same thing in that game. Now I would expect that some coach would have had a little talk with him after the first mistake and that the player would have considered the lesson before resuming his activity. Apparently some part of that did not happen or else the player was not capable of learning the lesson.

We have too many non-learners on this team already. Witness the total lack of tackling technique all day against a second string running back. As another post already said - you can't play bump and run against the running game and that's just how our defense has been playing. They fly in and hit but never get low enough to wrap and the back just keeps going. We never stopped the run in the second half and that's why we only had 21 offensive plays. Starr never had to worry about our pass rush but he just kept handing off anyway and it worked.

Posted by: oldskinsfan1 | November 30, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Robert McCune anyone??

red, agreed on the last post, send anyone injured to IR, and get the kids up here...this season is ovah....
___________________________________

Let's wait to say it's "ovah" until after
the Giants game this Sunday. The Redskins
will play hungry this time...

Posted by: DeployedFan | November 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Get rid of that Jackwagon today--how can he be so stupid--twice in the same game

Posted by: NDIrish2 | November 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Robert McCune anyone??

red, agreed on the last post, send anyone injured to IR, and get the kids up here...this season is ovah....
___________________________________

Let's wait to say it's "ovah" until after
the Giants game this Sunday. The Redskins
will play hungry this time...

Posted by: DeployedFan | November 30, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

"He's gonna learn as time goes on." WTF!!
Is this not a penalty in college football? High School? I understand the team standing behind Riley and supporting him but he really should have learned by now. That was an obvious penalty and a truly stupid play by Riley.


If the Post sports reporters really want to earn their pay, they should look into his college career to see if he ever got called on a block from behind while in college, and how often.

Posted by: jeadpt | November 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

So as long as you're going at 'full speed' you're allowed to make dumb plays? If you're giving maximum expert while punching the opponent in the mouth, drawing a 15 yard penalty and an ejection, is that commendable?

Posted by: randysbailin | November 30, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

So as long as you're going at 'full speed' you're allowed to make dumb plays? If you're giving maximum effort while punching the opponent in the mouth, drawing a 15 yard penalty and an ejection, is that commendable?

Posted by: randysbailin | November 30, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to try that "full speed" excuse the next time I get pulled over.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | November 30, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

There is still more than a month remaining in the NFL schedule, but most seem to believe John Fox and the Carolina Panthers will part ways at the end of the year.

That will put the Panthers in the market for a head coach for the first time since 2002. One name that will top the list, according to a report on ESPN tonight by Adam Schefter, is Arizona Cardinals offensive line coach Russ Grimm, who also serves as an assistant head coach.

The report cited the relationship Panthers owner Jerry Richardson has with the Rooney family, who would give Grimm a strong endorsement. Grimm passed on an opportunity to interview for the Buffalo Bills’ job last year. He was a finalist for the Chicago Bears’ job that went to Lovie Smith in 2004. Widespread reports indicate Grimm was the top choice to replace Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh before the NFL stepped in and pointed out that in order to put teeth to the Rooney Rule the organization needed to hire a minority.

Posted by: cbtole2 | November 30, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Young guys...inexperience..they'll make 'mistakes'..bull !!
Listen, I bet every one of these guys has been playing football since they were 9yrs old. Every coach has taught them how to block, how NOT to block, and how to play the game. Everyone of them has played at least 3yrs of college football, and you tell me that it's OK for them to make mistakes??
Give me a break..!

Posted by: scmonty1 | November 30, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44

You would cut him? Oh thats original from you. You have cut like how many players over the last two seasons? Ever wonder why you are on blogs and not working in the NFL?

Posted by: ged0386 | November 30, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

it's amusing that many of you want to cut Riley but guys like Moss that continue to drop balls week after week are given a free pass for what they did 3-4 years ago.

Moss hasn't been a legit deep threat since 2007 and at 32 he is slowing down.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | November 30, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

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