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Posted at 4:44 PM ET, 12/12/2010

Mike Shanahan: Orakpo "was mugged" on winning TD

By Barry Svrluga

By Rick Maese

Was Brian Orakpo held on Tampa Bay's game-winning touchdowns?

No, according to Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan, "he was not held."

"He was mugged," the coach quickly added.

Similarly, Orakpo had no doubts. "It's clear as day," he said in the locker room after the Redskins' 17-16 loss to the Bucs. "It's clear as day."

Orakpo said he talked to officials after the play. He said they told him that they were focusing on receivers downfield and didn't see the hold.

"They've got back judges there for a reason, and for them to tell me that he wasn't looking at the play, he was looking downfield, we've got downfield judges for that," he said. "He's the backfield judge, referee. That's exactly what he told me."

Television replays appeared to confirm that Orakpo was wrapped around the neck by a Bucs' tackle as Josh Freeman was throwing a 41-yard touchdown pass to Kellen Winslow.

"When you're held in that position around your neck, you can't move," Orakpo said. "You can't move."

It's been an obstacle that Orakpo has faced all season. He said that he didn't warn officials during the game that he was being held but says he might have to start having a pregame discussions with referees.

"I try not to resort to that because I just want to play the game," he said, "but maybe I'm gonna have to before games."

By Barry Svrluga  | December 12, 2010; 4:44 PM ET
Categories:  Brian Orakpo  
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Comments

Same exact hold ended the Dallas game - I'd ask how the zebras missed it, but then they give the Skins an extra down at the end allowing them to score, so they kinda made up it...

Posted by: jhorstma | December 12, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

how about focusing on your kids lousy play calling, your lack of attention to detail with the play clock at the end of the half, and the complete and utter failure of this team to make a SINGLE adjustment coming out of the locker room........TB adjusted their defense to stop the run...the redskins as usual had nothing/bupkis....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 12, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The league should offer a formal apology to the Skins. Two horrible calls today...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 12, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Spot-on, Beant.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 12, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

What was the missed call besides the hold, Cleggy? Can't think of one at the moment . . .

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 12, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

bring back the red snapper!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 12, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

whining about a missed call, thats the stuff that losers do....focus on being a better coach...on getting more out of your team...don't make excuses...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 12, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

There is a video over at NFL now about the 5th down. It looks like AA only got nine yards, but he got a favorable spot that was awarded as a first down..... I think.

Posted by: swowra | December 12, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

NFL officiating is now like the NBA. Just apply those rules & it all makes sense.

Sorry - that's bush league crying to the refs after that loss.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 12, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Sing it, Beant! Amen!

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 12, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The officals were looking down field? Don't they have one ref looking at the line of scrimage the entire play?

Posted by: Skins-fan-in-Tennessee | December 12, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The officals were looking down field? Don't they have one ref looking at the line of scrimage the entire play?

Posted by: Skins-fan-in-Tennessee | December 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The officals were looking down field? Don't they have one ref looking at the line of scrimage the entire play?

Posted by: Skins-fan-in-Tennessee | December 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The officals were looking down field? Don't they have one ref looking at the line of scrimage the entire play?

Posted by: Skins-fan-in-Tennessee | December 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The officals were looking down field? Don't they have one ref looking at the line of scrimage the entire play?

Posted by: Skins-fan-in-Tennessee | December 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

obligatory below the mason dixon line joke here after a 5 post....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 12, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Here it is yet again..

We may have been given a favorable spot but we didn't have 5 downs.

1st-10, TB12 0:49 D. McNabb passed to A. Armstrong to the right for 10 yard gain
1st-2, TB2 0:32 D. McNabb incomplete pass to the right
2nd-2, TB2 0:28 R. Torain rushed to the right for 4 yard loss
3rd-6, TB6 0:18 D. McNabb incomplete pass down the middle
4th-6, TB6 0:09 D. McNabb passed to S. Moss down the middle for 6 yard touchdown. 2pt attempt failed, H. Smith run up the middle

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 12, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, yes, that's what I mean. It wasn't a fifth down. It was officially 4th down.

Posted by: swowra | December 12, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

98 was held..But how about anyone else front try getting some pressure . Terrible dline, terrible o-line(dont be fooled by the rushing numbers) terrible talent, and a god awful special teams coach..GOD AWFUL

Posted by: dpshultzfam | December 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Has there been a game where anyone felt Shanahan and the coaching staff made better half time adjustments than the other team on either offense or defense? It just seems like the other team seems to always adjust better than us.

Posted by: will_ga | December 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

will, next time it happens will be the first time.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 12, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

how about focusing on your kids lousy play calling, your lack of attention to detail with the play clock at the end of the half, and the complete and utter failure of this team to make a SINGLE adjustment coming out of the locker room........TB adjusted their defense to stop the run...the redskins as usual had nothing/bupkis....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

Beans you are RIGHT on the Money. The last second issues only served to distract from what was another Redskins game filled with incompetence at all levels, particularly in coaching.

Not only do they not adjust their own offense and defense at the half, they fail to adjust to ANTICIPATED adjustments the other team makes.

I mean come on. You slive and dive them up with the run in the first half. You have to ASSUME they'll adjust to that, What's your COUNTER-strategy?

Posted by: TheCork | December 12, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

And by "slive and dive" I of course mean "slice and dice."

Posted by: TheCork | December 12, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I shouldn't have had that last slive of pizza...

Posted by: RomoLongballs | December 12, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Need Coach Joe to come back and help apply some of that crew chief strategy to sideline coaching/decision-making. And just who is in the booth? If Skins could put Sherm Smith/Lewis (which was it?) up in the eagle's nest last year, how come not this year. Maybe it's time for offense by committee again.

Posted by: Xlnt | December 12, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I was digging "slive and dive," Corky. Not sure what you're on to come up with it, though . . .

I'm using it "moving forward."

(I know, I know - c and v are next to one another.)

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | December 12, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

NFL officiating is now like the NBA. Just apply those rules & it all makes sense.

Sorry - that's bush league crying to the refs after that loss.

Posted by: DikShuttle

Well Shanahan showed up the Ref by walking out on the field with pictures in hand, complaining about a call he KNEW they couldn't change.

"Call the holds" he insisted. And they did. On the next kickoff to the Redskins, they called Sellers on a VERY iffy holding call, despite very few flags in the entire game. Game, set and match-- refs.

Dik, I agree officiating in the NFL is VERY uneven at best.

But by the same token, that game should NOT have been that close.

Posted by: TheCork | December 12, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I think our early success running the ball had more to do with a scheme choice Tampa made than our O line being dominant. Torrain did a great job of finding holes and cut back lanes, but I think a lot of that was there because Tampa was staying back trying to prevent the home run - knowing that we generally do not sustain drives.

They were correct. We ran up impressive stats between the 20's but were unable to stick the ball in the endzone with our running game.

Posted by: edvar | December 12, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Should never have come to that. Gano blew 6 first half points. Hall blew a TD interception. Generally crappy play calling, time management, and passing accuracy blew more great first half point opportunities.

Seems like this team starts games right at the edge of failure, so almost anything bad pushes them over the edge. But, that's how below-average teams are.

Posted by: pyrotech | December 12, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

has bryant been hurt or something? he played pretty well at noseguard.

Posted by: coparker5 | December 12, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo got to learn to hit, elbow or something to get away.Every great linebacker does it.

Posted by: Weave160 | December 12, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

No question he was held. Its that time of the year when the teams that don't have winning records and don;t have a chance to make the playoffs, they also don't get the calls. The ref was looking downfield, I bet if there had been a late hit on the Quarterback there would have been a flag. Whats the second ref in the backfield doing picking his nose, hes supposed to be watching for holding. Every game he gets held. Maybe he ought to speak up, Andy Reid says his little quarterback is getting hit too much and that when he runs the ball he should be treated like a quarterback, and not a running back well maybe we ought to put a pink jersey on little Vick, what a crock Andy Reid is. See how many calls Dallas doesn't get tonight and see how many times they get flagged for a so called late hit on the NFL poster boy Vick.

Posted by: DSBJB1244 | December 12, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Loser excuses. Could be called on any play.

Posted by: peauxsucent888 | December 12, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Loser excuses. Could be called on any play.

Posted by: peauxsucent888 | December 12, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he was held. Sure looked like it on the replay.

But why leave the run in the 2nd half? That's the question that Shanny needs to ask his mouth-breathing dolt of an offensive coordinator.

Posted by: mebail | December 12, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

This team paid a coach 7 million dollars a year who can hold everyone accountable but himself. This team is undisciplined, and just as awful as it was when Zorn was coaching. What aspect of this team would you say is good or getting better?

Posted by: edavis291 | December 12, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

shanny is a major ego, playing for the biggest ego, hence nothing sticks... altho it should. I have to say that after watching this game that the end of the half was the WORST performance by any team I have ever seen in my life in the red zone. Absolutely inexcusable. And these people are PRO's??? It all comes down straight to the coach and his little boy. What a mess. But of course they won't admit a thing. Miserable Miserable Miserable. Disgusting.

Posted by: gb810 | December 12, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

shanny is a major ego, playing for the biggest ego, hence nothing sticks... altho it should. I have to say that after watching this game that the end of the half was the WORST performance by any team I have ever seen in my life in the red zone. Absolutely inexcusable. And these people are PRO's??? It all comes down straight to the coach and his little boy. What a mess. But of course they won't admit a thing. Miserable Miserable Miserable. Disgusting.

Posted by: gb810 | December 12, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

B. Orakpo needs to be able to fight out of those holds or not be placed in them. I think, just my opinion, that he uses that technique when he is blocked to try and get the holding. JMO, I'm all for him but i've seen many times this season he's been in the same position and didn't get the holding call. The ref's must be following the same line with him.

Posted by: outsourced_in_va | December 12, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

No reason n'th degreeing some coaching decision that otherwise a good team would be able to overcome. Just make some progress this offseason...

Posted by: outsourced_in_va | December 12, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Pretty good turnout at Fed-Ex (NOT). The script was what you would expect. Good running from Redskins, no points. Mcnabb throws ball into turf repeatedly. Players whiff on blocks repeatedly. Similar to the Dan Turk mystery bobble snap in the playoff loss to Tampa when the "Turks" were not offered a ride home with the team after the playoff loss. Different players can choose at any time not to do the basics and....we buy into it. Suckers. Gano misses chip shots, the other guy (same conditions) hits plenty long field goals. We accept it. Why?
Our former kicker who could never hit anything, Suisham, is now kicking for the Steelers and punting too. Suddenly hes dead accurate from long distance. Why? Why can he suddenly kick better in a Steelers uniform? Because the game is fixed. Orakpo is held--no call. The Redskins barely breathe on a player on kick off,,,guess who?? Penalty. Home field advantage, forget about it. Following the SCRIPT. Sports Entertainment.

Posted by: DownTownClown | December 12, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Hold Deeez NuuuuuuuuuZZZZZ!!!! Fletcha shoulda Held on to his Int!! D.Hall shoulda Held on to his Int-Pick 6!!! The Dumb Azzz LB shoulda Held on to the short Kick off!! The PK shoulda held his foot on the ball on the 2 gimmie FGs.....So Hold Deeezzzzz Nuuuuuuuuuuutzzzz!!!!

Posted by: deejay640 | December 13, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Players doing better when they leave the Skins -- hmm, think it has something to do with coaching?

Posted by: pyrotech | December 13, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

As for holding calls, maybe Orakpo needs to learn to take dives so the officials might notice. Hey, it works for soccer players!

Posted by: pyrotech | December 13, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

WOW, you guys are really sore losers. The 'Skins held thier own against a playoff team. And to blame Shanny for 7 points snuffed out by our special teams isn't fair.

-Orakpo was held 3 times...no calls. He was held 4 times last game...1 call...maybe its a trend? 25 % of all holds will be called?

Posted by: wewbank1 | December 13, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Let you guys in on a little secret....the refs missed calls against the Skins all day too, not to mention the gift 1st-and-9 from the 12 the zebras gave the Skins on the final drive. Stop the whining.

Posted by: MichaelS1 | December 13, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Blame Snyder. Blame Haynesworth(oops, he's gone). Now blame the officials..but don't ever point the finger at the bums on the field or the clown on the sidelines. This is just not a talented team and Shanahan has taken a bad situation and made it worse. McNabb's cooked, the o-line sucks, Portis is history(thank God for Torain), the 3-4 is a joke(anybody still think Albert was wrong about that?), Rogers will never be able to catch a football. Now they're unable to convert a PAT. Was Orakpo held? Probably, but you could call holding on every play. How many times did the 'Skins hold yesterday? Time to stop the whining, Snyder didn't miss any tackles or blocks. This is a poorly coached team.

www.fireshanahannow.org

Posted by: markappraiser1 | December 13, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Blame Snyder. Blame Haynesworth(oops, he's gone). Now blame the officials..but don't ever point the finger at the bums on the field or the clown on the sidelines. This is just not a talented team and Shanahan has taken a bad situation and made it worse. McNabb's cooked, the o-line sucks, Portis is history(thank God for Torain), the 3-4 is a joke(anybody still think Albert was wrong about that?), Rogers will never be able to catch a football. Now they're unable to convert a PAT. Was Orakpo held? Probably, but you could call holding on every play. How many times did the 'Skins hold yesterday? Time to stop the whining, Snyder didn't miss any tackles or blocks. This is a poorly coached team.

www.fireshanahannow.org

Posted by: markappraiser1 | December 13, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

STOP CRYING, YOU LOST!! Learn to score some points !!

Posted by: Raidersfan2 | December 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

You guys there were 5 downs it is trying to be covered up! I rewatched the game no first down was awarded! This is the original play by play on NFL.com which has since been changed!

1-10-TB 12 (:49) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 13-A.Armstrong to TB 3 for 9 yards (41-C.Lynch).
Timeout #2 by WAS at 00:32.
2-1-TB 3 (:32) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short right to 87-R.Williams.
3-1-TB 3 (:28) 46-R.Torain right end ran ob at TB 6 for -3 yards (96-T.Crowder).
4-4-TB 6 (:18) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 86-F.Davis.
4-4-TB 6 (:13) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 89-S.Moss for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Posted by: Dinosworld55 | December 13, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Raidersfan2.
Go back to your crime ridden hole on the other coast, or is it too dangerous. How did your team do?

As for the refs, the quality has been diminishing as the players get bigger and faster. The current crop seems more like a group of free-ticket fans than observant officials.

Shanahan(s) - terrible. Other coaches make adjustments but King Shanny thinks he has all the answers. He blew the adjustments, he blew the time management, he blew the game. Even with the missed FGs and the PAT, a good game plan in the second half and it would have looked like New England-Chicago. A good coach can do a decent job even when his on-field talent is lacking, but a really good team can not overcome bad coaching.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 13, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey pjohn2, I could put your whole 1 bedroom crack house apt. in my summer home on the west coast. Just stop crying about those sorry azz Deadskin an put some more of this yellow brown liquid on your popcorn an shut-up !!

Posted by: Raidersfan2 | December 13, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans, apparently many of you don't understand so allow me to help.It's not whether the Skins are going to lose, but rather how. It's not the refs..it's not your holder...Fire your owner. He lacks patience.

Sympathetically,

Eagles Fan.

Posted by: twann9852 | December 13, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Skins fans, apparently many of you don't understand so allow me to help.It's not whether the Skins are going to lose, but rather how. It's not the refs..it's not your holder...Fire your owner. He lacks patience.

Sympathetically,

Eagles Fan.

Posted by: twann9852 | December 13, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Shannahan,
What your excuse for the rest of the Redskins losses? You defense is in last place, you need to get rid of that sorry a## Haslett.

Posted by: mssassy | December 13, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

who would win if the 2010 Redskins played the 2009 Redskins? I think the 2009 team would win a low scoring nail-biter

Posted by: coparker5 | December 13, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

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