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Posted at 5:07 PM ET, 12/19/2010

Orakpo on injury: "It's a bad situation"

By Barry Svrluga


Redskins outside linebacker Brian Orakpo is concerned he could miss the final two games of the season after suffering groin and hamstring injuries while in pass coverage in the second quarter of Washington's 33-30 loss Sunday at Dallas.

As the Cowboys were driving for a touchdown that would put them up 20-7, Orakpo got caught covering running back Felix Jones out of the backfield. He made the tackle after a 32-yard gain, but said he instantly knew something was wrong.

"It's a bad situation," Orakpo said. "I felt it on that wheel route coming out of my rush and trying to chase the play down. I seen it with my eyes, so I was just reacting on covering him. I knew it wasn't great when I came down."

Orakpo returned to the field for one play with less than two minutes remaining in the half, but the pain was too much. Asked if he would have to shut himself down for the final two games of the regular season, he said: "I hope not. We'll see. ... It's unfortunate, because I've never had something like this."

Coach Mike Shanahan offered little in the way of injury updates. In fact, he said he wasn't even sure what knocked linebacker Rocky McIntosh out of Sunday's game. McIntosh said afterward that he tweaked his hamstring and thought he'd be fine for next week's game at Jacksonville.

Safety Reed Doughty missed the second half because of a head injury he said was sustained on the first play of the game. Doughty remained in and even had a sack. "I think I'll be okay," he said afterward.

Defensive lineman Phillip Daniels, who started his first game of the season in place of an injured Kedric Golston, went out with an abdomen strain.

By Barry Svrluga  | December 19, 2010; 5:07 PM ET
Categories:  Brian Orakpo  
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Bummer. Put Chris Wilson there for the next two games and see what he has.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been a Haslett basher, in spite of the mess that the D has been this season. But there is something wrong when Orakpo has to cover Felix Jones and chase him deep. Of course that could have something to do with all the other injured players. He's probably never had to run that far in his entire career.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I mean, if we're taking these next games as exhibitions, let's see some more Riley, Wilson, and other backups too. This injury just pushes that agenda further.

Posted by: pgugino | December 19, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how this league can go to 18 games w/ the amount of injuries out there...

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 19, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Time to steal a player from another teams practice squad. IR Rak to clear a roster spot.

Or is it too late to poach other teams practice squads?

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Too late Kerz, PS moves had to happen by last week.

I'm in disbelief that some people are trying to spin this like Grossman and Kyle did not prove something huge today. Garbage time? WAHHHHHT? They were rallying to tie the game!

Anyway, today stung bad, but it's over and we have some encouraging life on Offense. Defense is simply bad right now with the injuries, no depth to overcome those at this point. And we did not move down in the draft.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | December 19, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

All things considered, Grossman showed himself to be an improvement over McNabb today.

The two early turnovers hurt, but one was due to miscommunication with Sellers on a route (a route they came back to for a good gain in the 2nd half). The fumble was just ugly, for sure. However, taking into consideration that it was Grossman's first start in two years, where he was only getting half of the reps in practice and only had two days' notice that he was the starter, a certain amount of first-half rust is to be expected.

What's more telling is how he finished the game. Once he settled down, he did a good job of running the offense -- and did it better on multiple consecutive drives than McNabb has this year.

If the Shanahans' theory was that McNabb was part of the problem with the lack of offensive productivity this year, their theory looks to be correct, granting that it's only one game.

If their hope is that Grossman can run things well enough to be a placeholder for a rookie QB at the start of next season, then in the aggregate, they have to like what they saw today.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:27 PM

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Next man up

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

his was not a stellar performance by Grossman.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:16 PM

Not stellar but competent, which hasn't been the case for McNabb for much of the year. I think the team was 100% in the red zone trips today. There 3rd down efficiency was acceptable at 36%. Grossman is by no way a starter for this team long term. However, maybe he can be the starter for a year or two while a rookie qb is groomed. While Grossman's talent is deficient, he does have a better understanding of the rhythm of the passing offense.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:29 PM

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

All Dallas losses hurt, but this less than most:

1. Dallas fans suffered from a comeback led by a season long benchwarmer named Grossman.
2. Neither team can make the playoffs. Dallas helped Washington and hurt themselves in the draft.
3. They got the winning FG against a defense that was minus Landry, McIntosh, Orakpo, Doughty, Golston, & Daniels, against a team with a DT (Alexander) and a DE (Carter) at linebacker, in a defense it's not suited for.
4. The 'skins backup QB was better than theirs.
5. The Redskins coach solidified his position, theirs did not.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Also, it's worth noting that one of Dallas' TDs came on a drive extended by possibly the worst roughing the passer call in history.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse


4 TDs, 2 2PT conv, 4-4 in the red zone...but 2 INTs & fumble.

1st INT- gotta throw the ball in the 4th row, it's possible that Rex thought #45 was going to cut off his route.
Fumble- WTF was 78 doing, stop standing around and find someone to block. I credit him for the sack and fumble.
2nd INT- 13 secs left and had to throw the ball to the sidelines. Worth a shot but Cooley wasn't open.

Rex played well and while he's not the QB of the future, he can be a competent and knowledgeable bridge to our QB of the future. Something that McNabb has proven this year that he's not capable of doing.

If you're looking for GOATS from today's game then look no further than DHall and Moore.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

If you're looking for GOATS from today's game then look no further than DHall and Moore.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM


Moore should be cut this offseason. He's the worst tackling safety in the league since Stanley Richards. Tackles high, doesn't wrap up, whiffs on tackle, you name it Moore's shown it.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse


Gee I wonder if the Giants will be lobbing a call to Hunter the Punter?

Suisham is invincible in Pittsburgh, watch Hunter save the Giant's hide.

Diesel--you and I agree on Hall. Don't know about you, but I've been against a DB like him ever since I saw Eddie Royal light him up when he played for Oakland.

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

All things considered, Grossman showed himself to be an improvement over McNabb today.....

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:27 PM
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But we won with McNabb against Homo; but lost with Grossman against Kitna.....

There is no beauty point in NFL for loosing.

Posted by: SeedofChange | December 19, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Diesel--you and I agree on Hall. Don't know about you, but I've been against a DB like him ever since I saw Eddie Royal light him up when he played for Oakland.

Posted by: TheCork

Which is why I think they should try him at FS. He's a ball hawk and a play maker, but below average in man coverage. He's also a slightly better tackler than Moore, but obviously that is not saying much.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 19, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Anyone crying about the second int. doesn't know the game. He had 13 seconds left and needed 30 yards, he had to throw to the sidelinds. Dallas was not going to let anyone get open that far down the field.

I don't think anyone is saying Rex is a great QB but he showed today that Mcnabb was more of the problem then people thought.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Grossman had a game of his lifetime! With his average QB rating of 69, this game was a miracle for him. Let's see what comes next against a team that wants and needs to win.

Posted by: SeedofChange | December 19, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

TWISI/TheCork-

Moore is horrendous. We need a FS, @ 6'1 Barnes should get a look the last 2 games to see if he could be an answer. Either way we need to being a FA or spend a pick on one.

I despise DHall. He has elite hands but has dropped the last 4 that he's been lucky enough to be in position to make a play. When he's not making plays it's impossible to live with his inability to cover or tackle. They did some creative things with his contract and it's no guarantee that he'll return next year. I think we'll see another year because of extremely long laundry list of needs and the uncertainty of resigning CR22.

Posted by: Diesel44 | December 19, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Jurgensen: McNabb didn't practice 100 percent
By Dan Steinberg

Enough words were uttered over about Donovan McNabb's benching since Friday to keep even a professional transcriber like myself busy for the next three or four years. But I'll pick the most interesting words I heard for now, and focus on them.

These words came from Sonny Jurgensen, and were delivered on ESPN 980's pre-game coverage. They came when Sonny was asked about the benching.

"He wasn't performing, and at practice, he'd never practice hard, and I think that had some bearing on it also," Jurgensen said. "Because Shanahan's a stickler for practice, working hard in practice so that you carry that over into the game. And he never could get him to go 100 percent in practice, and that's what he wanted. You talk to people in Philadelphia, and they say why didn't you see this coming, why are you surprised. Because the Eagles had seen it, and they traded him within the division. And so why are the people in Washington surprised?"

This didn't exactly come across as a hit campaign. Jurgensen had high praise for how McNabb handled the benching, and said he understood why McNabb would be angry. Bu still. "never could get him to go 100 percent in practice" is not a strong endorsement.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

man... mcnabb had a horrible day.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 19, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Also, it's worth noting that one of Dallas' TDs came on a drive extended by possibly the worst roughing the passer call in history.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 19, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

AMEN!!!! That was a HORRIBLE call that gave them 4 points. Another bad call was the non-call of facemask on the Banks return. Anyway, I was encouraged that this team DOES NOT GIVE UP! They could have packed it up on the road. The Moss drop was a killer on our next to last possession. It was followed by two sacks by Dallas. Santana makes that catch and he goes all the way if he makes that last guy miss. Oh well, Moss played a great game still.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 19, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Orakpo's been watching a little to much Jersey Shore.

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | December 19, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

i'm not ready to say this validates The Shanny's, to small a sample size. And if they though Rex could have run it they should have held their draft picks, kept Campbell, signed Rexy and let them battle. If the season bottomed out they'd be right where they are now with a second rounder playing and one more pick next year.

Now Haze-Lett...I think the sample size is sufficient

Posted by: chrislarry | December 19, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

wonder if rogers could be a FS? bring in another cover corner or go with Barnes. LL will be healthy for next year. Moss is over rated as always. The only reason we talk about him is because he's the best we have. That's not praising him btw.
In a room full or ugly women, the least ugly will stand out. Doesn't mean she's pretty at all. Same with Moss IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | December 19, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

MS makes $7M/year... Do Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith and John Harbaugh make that much combined??

Is MS a better football coach than any of those 3 right now???

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

And if they though Rex could have run it they should have held their draft picks, kept Campbell, signed Rexy and let them battle.


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This was the problem with Father hiring Son. Kyle wanted Rex, Mike wanted McNabb. Both have been arguing which is better and Father finally gave in and gave Son's qb a chance. Not that DM5 gave him much choice.

Hopefully they get on the same page or this type of dysfunction will only get worse going forward and cost us more picks.

As for JH, I am willing to give him another year to see what he can do once he has players that fit the 3-4 scheme better.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

wonder if rogers could be a FS? bring in another cover corner or go with Barnes. LL will be healthy for next year. Moss is over rated as always. The only reason we talk about him is because he's the best we have. That's not praising him btw.
In a room full or ugly women, the least ugly will stand out. Doesn't mean she's pretty at all. Same with Moss IMO.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | December 19, 2010 6:26 PM

A FS with stone hands? What's the point? Barnes, Harris will get good looks next year.

Posted by: TWISI | December 19, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

CL,

Agree no validation on the Shanny trade for McNabb it was a mistake. But they didn't make the other mistakes that would have been made in the past.

They didn't give him a huge guaranteed contract, and they didn't leave him in because it was the easy thing to do.

Shanny has made some mistakes no question but he would need to make plenty more to compare with the last 10 years.

I still say this team is headed in the right direction.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 19, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"All things considered, Grossman showed himself to be an improvement over McNabb today."

More importantly it shows that this offense DOES work when you have the right pieces.

Grossman is not the answer, but there were several plays called today that I have not seen in previous games.

Torian is a starter in the NFL.

Moss needs to shut up and start catching passes.

The defense needs to tackle better.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 19, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

A FS with stone hands? What's the point? Barnes, Harris will get good looks next year.

Posted by: TWISI

Same as a DB with hands of stone. In the pass-happy NFL, figured he'd be a good athlete back there. Just a thought.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | December 19, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

double beeps

1st barnes, then armstrong.

Posted by: kerzon417 | December 19, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

The pain here was to go to Dallas with a second stringer at qb. This was our big game, not an exhibition.

Posted by: emcdonald6 | December 19, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

What I liked about Shanny is he came out and said once we were mathematically out, they want to see what they have. Not hiding behind the old "we're trying to win a game" junk. I'll view the next 2 as preseason. Skins fans can look forward to:
The labor negotiations.
Beginning of free agency.
Draft.
Mid July/Aug (pending labor talks).

Posted by: outsourced_in_va | December 19, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

his was not a stellar performance by Grossman.

Posted by: uofmdgrad | December 19, 2010 5:16 PM

say what? given the expectations and all things considered, how can you call it anything but stellar? I was wrong about Grossman; while most all agree he's not the long term solution, this guy can get the job done on a short term basis. Our D is just decimated with injuries right now. This hurts but definitely proud of the effort.

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | December 19, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah the offense is fixed...A last place team playing another last place team. Result Redskins loose against a weak defensive Dallas team. If they'd been playing Baltimore, Pittsburg, or any other team with a winning defense the results would have been significantly different.

Rex throws 2 interceptions, 5 sacks, fumbles one away, this is on par with Rex's historical Stats. Three turnovers a game will make the Rexskins a continuing looser.

But now we know if we play a last place team with a bad defense we can score points....maybe.

LOOSERS LOSE AND WINNERS FIND A WAY TO WIN.

DANNYBOY STILL RULES (I think he was he charge of the time outs this game)

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 19, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah the offense is fixed...A last place team playing another last place team. Result Redskins loose against a weak defensive Dallas team. If they'd been playing Baltimore, Pittsburg, or any other team with a winning defense the results would have been significantly different.

Rex throws 2 interceptions, 5 sacks, fumbles one away, this is on par with Rex's historical Stats. Three turnovers a game will make the Rexskins a continuing looser.

But now we know if we play a last place team with a bad defense we can score points....maybe.

LOOSERS LOSE AND WINNERS FIND A WAY TO WIN.

DANNYBOY STILL RULES (I think he was he charge of the time outs this game)

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 19, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

He shouldn't even be in coverage in the first place. Put him and Andre Carter on the line and you've got a real nice quarterback-rushing duo!

Posted by: stwasm | December 19, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for that 18 game schedule!

Posted by: shoveit | December 20, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Rex Grossman has the raw skills to QB. His out of balance wrist-flicks of 20+ yards demonstrate his strength. Pinpoint accuracy on most throws is another. His undoing is his turnovers. Being benched and watching the world pass by as you get older changes everyman in ways that cannot be calculated in their youth.

So, while Rex might not be the QB for the future, hell maybe not even beyond this week, he certainly has the skills, if lacking composure, to hold the fort until, if by luck or change of fortune, the Redskins can figure out how to get a QB that doesn’t wilt in the heat of the primetime lights…. Most do!

We all focus on the show forgetting that what we watch for is entertainment. We all want to feel better because our beloved team is represent-n, that is, when they do. But it’s been so long since we have really been entertained by our own team we’ve nearly lost the sense of what that feels like. I’d rather watch a 33 to 30 loss than a 10 to 7 win over a lifeless, listless opponent any day of the week…..!

Losing the rest of the games could actually be a good thing!

Posted by: hsparks3 | December 20, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I know it's only one game but:

where are the Shanny's haters and Mc5's lovers??????

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | December 20, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

This doe snot say much about Rex as it does about Mc5. If Rex can do what he did, in spite of weak Dallas D, imagine what a more skilled QB could do? Mc5 and Haynesworth were both unable or unwilling to modify their styles of play and in the end, they will both be gone.

Good for Shanny and the Redskins.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | December 20, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's not lose our heads, people. Grossman played okay in ONE GAME and, bottom line, THEY LOST.

Posted by: largetony86 | December 20, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

All Dallas losses hurt, but this less than most:

1. Dallas fans suffered from a comeback led by a season long benchwarmer named Grossman.
Minus several starters mainly their starting RB, WR and QB....
2. Neither team can make the playoffs. Dallas helped Washington and hurt
themselves in the draft.

If history is our lesson dealing with the draft this will not matter when you give up 2 picks for a 34year old QB who was not benched for a journeyman QB?

3. They got the winning FG against a defense that was minus Landry, McIntosh, Orakpo, Doughty, Golston, & Daniels, against a team with a DT (Alexander) and a DE (Carter) at linebacker, in a defense it's not suited for.

Stop making excuses dude, this is the NFL!Injuries happen!

4. The 'skins backup QB was better than theirs.

Question: how many picks / turnovers did Kitna have? Rex Grossman?

5. The Redskins coach solidified his position, theirs did not.

Dude, please get a clue, both teams suck and amazingly the skins were at one point 4 & 3 while the cowboys were 2 and 6....

Posted by: TheCork | December 19, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The Cork... all that matters... SEE FINAL SCORE: 33 to 30

Posted by: rlomax67 | December 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

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