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Bridges Puts Past Problems Behind Him

When Jeremy Bridges was released by the Carolina Panthers after last season, it ended a three-year tenure with the organization during which he made 28 starts on the offensive line. But he also left behind a series of off-the-field issues.

"It is a fresh start," said Bridges, who signed with the Washington Redskins in February. "And that's just how I look at it. I have nothing hanging over my head."

Charges against Bridges in connection with an incident in a North Carolina restaurant were dropped April 27, according to Charles Keller, a spokesman for the Mecklenburg County District Court.

Bridges had been arrested Dec. 7 and accused of spraying champagne on customers and getting into a dispute with an employee while celebrating his anniversary with his wife. He was charged with simple assault and communicating threats. "All of that is incorrect," Bridges said. "The charges were dropped. All the allegations were false. It was way blown out of proportion."

Bridges had run into trouble with the law before. He was arrested on an assault charge in July 2007 and later convicted of pointing a gun at a woman outside a strip club.

"Before, I was living life wrong," Bridges said. "The first incident, when you live life wrong, bad things happen to you. The second one was just unfortunate; people were trying to extort money."

Bridges was deactivated from the Panthers' roster the night after his second arrest. During the offseason, he was released in a salary-cap move. Bridges, who is not expected to face discipline from the NFL under its conduct policy, was brought to Washington to help shore up its offensive line. Along with Stephon Heyer and Mike Williams, Bridges will be competing to replace Jon Jansen, the veteran right tackle who was released on Friday.

Now Bridges said he can focus on football.

"It's just a blessing, man," Bridges said. "They realized they were doing wrong and things worked out when they dropped the charges. That's all I can ask."

By Cindy Boren  |  June 2, 2009; 5:00 PM ET
 
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1st!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | June 2, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Hope he's got his head on straight now and is ready to pave the road.

Posted by: edvar | June 2, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Would that be "plow" the road? Just wonderin'...

Posted by: tripz | June 2, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The Skins really need to get lucky on some of these cast-offs and find a player or two (not playa or two...).

I hope he's one that just needed a new start...

Posted by: edvar | June 2, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Fine, plow. Just clear a path already.

Posted by: edvar | June 2, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Just...make plays and crack some skulls.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | June 2, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Even better.

Posted by: edvar | June 2, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I'd settle for a few "pancake" blocks (ala Joe Jacoby in the HeyDay)...skull crackin'?...that's optional...

Posted by: tripz | June 2, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

No News.... Move on...

(IT's all debateable because we weren't there)

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 2, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

is Bridges taking any reps at right guard?

Posted by: coparker5 | June 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I heard they came to your house this morning, disguised as rug cleaners, to plant little listening devices. Better get the exorcist to check on it. You'd hate to see your inner demons spread all over Redskins.com.

Posted by: talent_evaluator

You know what's REALLY funny. Swear to God, we had a rug cleaner at the house today. Now THAT's enough to make a person paranoid.

Seriously, you find "plants" in the media hard to believe? Betcha think the Bush White House wouldn't put a fake reporter in the press room, too.

Your pretend naivete is just charming.

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"It is a fresh start," said Bridges, who signed with the Washington Redskins in February. "And that's just how I look at it. I have nothing hanging over my head."--- New GOOD News RI

Hey, that's great! The good news just keeps cominging from redskin Park!

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Swear to God, we had a rug cleaner at the house today. Now THAT's enough to make a person paranoid.

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:16 PM

Uh, oh. I'd hate to be the one who made you paranoid, although I may be too late to the party to claim credit for that. So, do you think you might have ended one of your posts this morning "Got to go. The rug cleaner's here."? So, I pay attention to your posts even if you don't remember what you wrote.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Synder and Cerrato should pony up and sign Greg Ellis ASAP!

Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

So, do you think you might have ended one of your posts this morning "Got to go. The rug cleaner's here."? So, I pay attention to your posts even if you don't remember what you wrote.--T_E

Oh right. So that WASN'T you in the Gummint Buick with the blackwall tires sitting across the street? What a relief. I mean, house values are bad enough already...

We'll be here all week, try the veal...

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Cork soaker

Posted by: jonthefisherman | June 2, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Hate to ring this up, but the NEW Good news RI got scooped...

Redskins.com blog is reporting the Redskins and their fans went to Six Flags last night and a good time was had by all!

And you call yourself a news organization...?

Heads should roll.

(We kid because we love.)

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

(We kid because we love.)

Posted by: TheCork | June 2, 2009 6:34 PM |

Why don't you just make it WKBWL?

That line works for Cindy. In your case it's slightly different "We kid because we love TO KID."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Synder and Cerrato should pony up and sign Greg Ellis ASAP!

Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse


As a backup? or starter? And where would you like him line up?

Posted by: Vicc | June 2, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Vicc
Greg Ellis is a better option at DE then daniels...Ellis had 8 sacks last year and 12 the year before. Let him start and monitor his reps..rotate Daniels and cut Wynn

Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse


As a backup? or starter? And where would you like him line up?

Posted by: Vicc | June 2, 2009 6:51 PM

Greg Ellis is a better option at DE then daniels...Ellis had 8 sacks last year and 12 the year before. Let him start and monitor his reps..rotate Daniels and cut Wynn

Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

We need Pac Man Jones....

Posted by: knight1977 | June 2, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Greg Ellis is a better option at DE then daniels...Ellis had 8 sacks last year and 12 the year before. Let him start and monitor his reps..rotate Daniels and cut Wynn


Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse


I'm sold.

Not every team runs on 1st and 2nd down, then throws on 3rd down, so when a team passes on us during the first two downs, Greg Ellis can rush better than Daniels/Wynn and I might even say Carter.

Posted by: Vicc | June 2, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I'd be OK with Ellis, but if we're still looking for help -- spend the $$$ on the OL first.

As for Bridges, I don't know how good he was when he played. Anyone know?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 2, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Former New York Giants star receiver Plaxico Burress can toss four traffic tickets he received in suburban Fort Lauderdale. A magistrate has dismissed them.

Burress was ticketed March 1 on accusations of speeding and illegal lane change, improperly displaying a car tag and having tinted windows.

His attorney said the tickets were dismissed because the officer who wrote them didn't supply information on how to pay the tickets.

------ wtf????? -------

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 2, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

fred, it's all the same. All that crap needs really harsh penalties imposed on those who are involved.

I mean like the first ime you're convicted should be your last. A life sentence (maybe death penalty in some cases) is definitely warranted with that disgusting crap.

Just sayin' here, there are pedophilers that got less time than a certain used to be QB...

Think about that sh*t.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 2, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm not disagreeing with you, Red, I guess I'm on a thin line of difference. Sometimes child pornagraphers are selling the stuff, sometimes they are buying the movies and CD's. I'm saying that the people actually making the SJK are the lowest of the low.

Posted by: frediefritz | June 2, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse
repost from previous thread

Posted by: frediefritz | June 2, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

well, the good news is i'm hung like a firehose.

Posted by: toohoes | June 2, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

well, the good news is i'm hung like a firehose.

Posted by: toohoes | June 2, 2009 8:28 PM

And the bad news is that you're as limp as a firehose rolled up on the truck.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

if he will denounce the cowgirls and pledge to the skins, then I am in with signing Ellis.despite a modest defensive unit improvement (plus at DT minus at CB) we still need help on defense (especially if at mimimal cost).I have yet to be sold on Zorn's play calling and clock mgmt skills. I still cannot figure why they haven't looked at Derrick Brooks. the giants on paper seem to have a killer defensive unit just based upon d line depth.they will just keep sending fresh bodies at o lines, especially in the beast.having talent depth on your roster is essential when fatigue and injuries alter your roster. wake up ownership and seize the talent when available and affordable. HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: jenksredskins | June 2, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Not to mention Greg Ellis can line up as a DE or LB...similar to Orakpo. We need all the rushers possible, the Giants and Eagles have great offensive lines

Posted by: kellsz1 | June 2, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

From Pro Football Talk -- How we cut Jansen:

New Santana Moss Deal Offsets Jansen Cap Charge
Posted by Mike Florio on June 2, 2009, 8:43 p.m. EDT

A league source tells us that the Washington Redskins quietly extended the contract of receiver Santana Moss last month, creating nearly the same amount of cap space that was burned up when tackle Jon Jansen recently was cut.

Per the source, the Redskins converted his base salary of $3.7 million in 2009 and $4.3 million in 2010 into a signing bonus, less salaries of $745,000 this year and $968,500 next year.

The difference is a guaranteed payment of $6.28 million.

The new deal adds three additional seasons beyond 2010, at base salaries of $1.192 million in 2011, $1.4155 million in 2012, and $1.639 million in 2013. But we’re told that the three new years automatically void at the end of the 2010 season.

So why were the new years added? To allow the guaranteed payment to be spread over five years.

As a result, the total cap savings was $1.7477 million. And the Jansen cap charge was $1.726 million.

There also was a benefit for Moss; he received all of his 2009 pay and most of his 2010 compensation now.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"...is Bridges taking any reps at right guard?"

Excellent question.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 2, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but after 1 week I have to say that this new regime sucks. We have gone from one extreme (Jasno's active campaign to question or discredit FO) to the other (reporting more or less what is coming from redskins.com).

Here's the most simple standard I can think of for qualifying as journalism: for every source or at least for every article, interview an objective 3rd party who might have a different point of view or a more general perspective on the question at hand.

Instead we get 1-interview posts that are almost identical: Moss feeling good about this year, Zorn feeling good about this year, Bridges feeling good about this year, Samuels feeling 'pretty good' about this year, Rodgers feeling pretty good given that he had recently been getting sick, Mike Williams not interested in tofu (way to mix it up guys), player X feeling good about this year, etc. All just from rolling up the quotes of the individuals involved.

Lame. Cindy, are you taking a Jasno-like extended vacation this summer or something?

zornskins

Posted by: zornskins2 | June 2, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Just Say No To:

Greg Ellis
Mike Vick
Pisa Tinoisamoa
Plaxico Burress
Levi Jones


Let's go into the season with the guys we got.

And remember: just because some guy gets cut or released, it doesn't mean we have to chase them: most times, a released guy isn't all that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 2, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"...is Bridges taking any reps at right guard?"

dunno. do know that Rinehart has been taking reps with 1st team at RG until Randy Thomas returns.

Posted by: Vicc | June 2, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Bridges Puts Past Problems Behind Him
====================================

He burned his bridges?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 2, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

interview an objective 3rd party who might have a different point of view or a more general perspective on the question at hand.

Posted by: zornskins2 | June 2, 2009 9:04 PM |

So, who is the objective third party that would argue "No, Moss doesn't really feel good about this year"? Or that "Williams eats so much tofu that he's got soy bean fungus in his toes?"

Sheesh. It's June. They are in OTA's. OTA's are closed to the public. Guys are practicing in helmets and shorts. What is it that an objective third party would tell us? "Haynesworth isn't going to make it with the Redskins. He can't beat Rayback in a helmet and shorts."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

He burned his bridges?
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 2, 2009 9:09 PM

Crossed them when he came to them, not before.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 2, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Rhinehart starting with the 1st unit? Nah ...

Posted by: periculum | June 2, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Moe,

Still think Levi Jones is a good pickup for a team whose best offensive lineman is coming off two injuries knee plus torn pectoral. Kind of like Jansen now .... Levi has had his own problems with injuries but perhaps they can create a "whole" from parts this season as it seems highly unlikely that anyone other than Rabach and Dockery will finish be able the season. Thomas might not even get out the gate.

Posted by: periculum | June 2, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

going into this season with what we have is assinine if you can get talent and have them compete in camp. I did not say promise them a spot on the roster, but let them compete. it is thinking like the aforementioned that will have the skins players watching the tv in feb 10 as opposed to on the tv. HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: jenksredskins | June 2, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Matt Mosley in his Beast Chat ranked the Skins OL 4th in the Beast. He ranked the D-line 2nd after Gints tied with the Eagles. He ranked the secondary 4th. Ranked QB's 4th. Thinks Philips and Zorn are on the hot seat. His take is Holmgren to Dallas, guess that means Shanahan to the Skins next year.

He thinks if Williams starts at RT that would be convincing evidence of the complete incompetence of Cerrato and company. Did say that he will eat his words if Williams pans out.

Posted by: periculum | June 2, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Will Williams eat the Beast? Or will he "Beast" the Meat? Only time will tell ...

Posted by: periculum | June 2, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

So, who is the objective third party that would argue "No, Moss doesn't really feel good about this year"? Or that "Williams eats so much tofu that he's got soy bean fungus in his toes?"

Sheesh. It's June. They are in OTA's. OTA's are closed to the public. Guys are practicing in helmets and shorts. What is it that an objective third party would tell us? "Haynesworth isn't going to make it with the Redskins. He can't beat Rayback in a helmet and shorts."

My point is a bit broader: ask around the NFL about strengths and weaknesses in the team. Are teams kicking themselves that they didn't lock up Mike Williams? How are they scouting the DL? Are they worried about Santana Moss this year? How does JJ departure affect their scheming in the NFC east - run to the right vs. left, pass pro schemes, etc.

Yes, it is June. But if you want vanilla posts, then godspeed to you and all the others. Save yourself some time and just login to redskins blog though-they are usually a bit quicker about posting official news releases etc. Which are quite hard to differentiate from the recent posts we have had here (player X feels good about the season).

Brownwood, TE, and Cork will provide better info than this new crowd, IMO: schemes, FA options, etc. All that without being at every practice. So Wapo can do better.

zornskins


Posted by: zornskins2 | June 3, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

So much for insider... Jasno coundnt do it... dosnt appear the replacements can either.
Now only here for the chat...news breaks elsewhere as usual.
sad

Posted by: DrPainless | June 3, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Matt Mosley in his Beast Chat ranked the Skins OL 4th in the Beast. He ranked the D-line 2nd after Gints tied with the Eagles. He ranked the secondary 4th. Ranked QB's 4th. Thinks Philips and Zorn are on the hot seat. His take is Holmgren to Dallas, guess that means Shanahan to the Skins next year.

He thinks if Williams starts at RT that would be convincing evidence of the complete incompetence of Cerrato and company. Did say that he will eat his words if Williams pans out.

Posted by: periculum | June 2, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse


Any clown that ranks the secondary 4th in the league muchless the devision has no credebility

Posted by: jumbo5383 | June 3, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

...and we're what, waiting for the Redskins equivalent of Watergate?

...in June no less?

Granted Florio does seem to be following the money.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | June 3, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Okay, let's say that Heyer wins the job at right tackle. If Thomas is full go, then I say they give Bridges some reps at center. He could move the pile better than Rabach. I don't think they ever planned for Jansen to beat out Rabach, but this is where they were trying to move him - probably because they realized they needed a bigger guy at center for goal line situations. I'm not sure the kid from Maryland is going to be ready this year to serve as an adequate backup.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | June 3, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Watchin HBO Real Sports. Must see. Talking about Horse Racing.

From the stable to the Table in 7 days....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 2:05 AM | Report abuse

4th best OL? Yup
DL 2nd? Yup
Secondary 4th? No way. 1st
QB 4th? I posted this yesterday. Its not like there is a big difference in any of the QBs in the NFC East.


Campbell's avg passer rating, broken out by the defenses he played against.

Vs defenses ranked 1st-2nd (Bal, Pitt)
54.8 (2 games)

Vs defenses ranked 3rd-8th (jints, phil, dal)
78.2 (6 games)

Vs defenses ranked 9th-32nd
99.6 (8 games)

Campbell had a 78.2 passer rating in the NFC East. How did the other QBs fare vs the Skins in 2008?

romo vs Skins 81.7
mcnabb vs Skins 74.5
manning vs Skins 74.8

On average, the QB rating vs the Skins in the NFC East is 77, essentially identical to Campbell's 78 rating.

The NFC East defenses were rated 3rd, 4th, 5th and 8th (jints, Skins, iggles, dal).

All the naysayers who think this kid just can't cut it, from Danny Snyder on down, are missing it. When compared to the other QBs in the division, Jason Campbell is right there with them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 3, 2009 2:26 AM | Report abuse

And remember: just because some guy gets cut or released, it doesn't mean we have to chase them: most times, a released guy isn't all that.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 2, 2009 9:06 PM

I'm sorry, isn't that how the Redskins ended up with about HALF of their current roster???

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 5:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, isn't that how the Redskins ended up with about HALF of their current roster???

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 5:47 AM

No.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 5:53 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood, TE, and Cork will provide better info than this new crowd, IMO: schemes, FA options, etc. All that without being at every practice. So Wapo can do better.

Posted by: zornskins2 | June 3, 2009 12:06 AM

I appreciate the faith! The following individuals could also do better than JLC:

1)My 2 year-old daughter
2)Any monkey
3)The Michelin man

I don't care who eventually takes over RI, but all I ask is that this current tag team approach go away and that someone who actually somewhat likes the Redskins gets the gig. I can't take another Baltimoron ranting on Vinny...we can do that by ourselves!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 6:00 AM | Report abuse

I can't take another Baltimoron ranting on Vinny...we can do that by ourselves!

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 6:00 AM

But we're amateurs. We need a professional insider. Here's an idea. Why doesn't the Post assign it to the Ultimate Redskins Insider -- Vinnie?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 6:12 AM | Report abuse

hmmm...Jasno's picture's still on the sports page on link box for RI...making sure we don't forget him? Will this become the Jasno Memorial RI?

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 3, 2009 6:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, isn't that how the Redskins ended up with about HALF of their current roster???

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 5:47 AM

No.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 5:53 AM


Maybe not half. But consider this:

Philip Daniels, Renaldo Wynn, Andre Carter, Casey Rabach, Antwaan Randle El, Fred Smoot 2.0, Mike Williams, Jeremy Bridges, Todd Yoder, Todd Collins, Alfred Fincher, Derrick Dockery 2.0.

Right there you're talking about possibly 6 of your starting 9 lineman (offensive and defensive). I'm curious to see how you defend the logic in building your lines that way.

But then again I should expect T_E to debate petty semantics first thing in the morning...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 6:16 AM | Report abuse

"Matt Mosley in his Beast Chat ranked the Skins.."

You forgot to mention Matt Mosley is an idiot. Not just any idiot, either - this type:

"Matt Mosley, an award-winning writer for The Dallas Morning News for seven years, joined ESPN.com in January 2007. He covered the Cowboys for The Dallas Morning News and DallasNews.com for three years before becoming a full-time columnist. Mosley, a Baylor graduate, blogs and writes columns for ESPN.com."

Posted by: Samson151 | June 3, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Samson,

What makes Mosley a bigger idiot? His Cowboy ties or the fact that he writes for ESPN? Actually, the two may be essentially the same thing...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Right wing rap

(Click at your own risk.)
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 3, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Philip Daniels, Renaldo Wynn, Andre Carter, Casey Rabach, Antwaan Randle El, Fred Smoot 2.0, Mike Williams, Jeremy Bridges, Todd Yoder, Todd Collins, Alfred Fincher, Derrick Dockery 2.0.

Right there you're talking about possibly 6 of your starting 9 lineman (offensive and defensive). I'm curious to see how you defend the logic in building your lines that way.

But then again I should expect T_E to debate petty semantics first thing in the morning...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 6:16 AM

Dude -- "cut or released"? Carter, Rabach, Randle El were neither cut nor released. But one that you missed was Hall.

How do you translate that list into "6 of 9 starters"? They drafted Samuels and Dockery. Heyer, Carter, Thomas, Rabach, Haynesworth were free agents, and they had not been cut or released. So, at most, you've got 2 of 9 starters.

Most of the players you named either shouldn't have been on your list, have never even taken a snap for the Redskins, or are backups/role players. Yoder? Collins? Williams? Bridges?

When you're wrong, just man up and say so and don't blame it on "petty semantics."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

When you're wrong, just man up and say so and don't blame it on "petty semantics."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 8:02 AM

I don't get how I make a concession and yet I need to "man up". At any rate, Dockery (regardless of whether we drafted him or not) was cut by Buffalo so he counts. Same with Smoot. Yoder's been cut a few times and Collins, Williams, Bridges all cut before coming to D.C.

And the gist of this (as I understood it) is the Redskins stockpiling other people's scraps and overvaluing and/or overpaying them. Regardless of whether they were actually cut or their original team made NO attempt at resigning them.

So yes, that's petty semantics. So if you want to argue for the sake of arguing then say that. If you want to debate the previous paragraph, I'm willing to listen.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

The "One man's trash is anothers treasure" is biz as usual for most NFL teams some are just better/luckier with than others.

Carter, Rabach, Randle El, Philip Daniels (if I recall correctly on PD.) all signed as true FAs (contracts expired)

Todd Collins (Cap reason joined Saunders here), Derrick Dockery (Cap + 1 dissappointing season)

Renaldo Wynn, Fred Smoot 2.0, Mike Williams, Jeremy Bridges, Todd Yoder, Alfred Fincher = Collection of Maybes worth rolling the dice.

Here some of another teams Un-Restricted FA/ Released/ another mans "trash" signings in the last few yrs:

Lamont Jordan, John Lynch, Mike Flynn, Pierre Woods Tank Williams Shawn Springs, Junior Seau

Im sure there are more but this was a short list. We are not as good at this as the PATS but at least we are not the RAIDERS.

Posted by: Deadfish | June 3, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

So yes, that's petty semantics. So if you want to argue for the sake of arguing then say that. If you want to debate the previous paragraph, I'm willing to listen.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 8:13 AM |

My 13-year-old son answered a biology question with "osmosis." It was marked wrong. He said, "She should have marked it right, because it was the right answer but to a different question."

You came up here and argued that half our roster was made up of "guys who get cut or released." You are wrong.

Then, you named a bunch of back-ups, role players, and free agents (who had not been cut or released) and switched it to apply to "6 of 9 starters on the offensive and defensive lines." You are wrong.

So now you're trying your answer on an entirely new question which no one has been arguing: "gist of this (as I understood it) is the Redskins stockpiling other people's scraps and overvaluing and/or overpaying them."

No, that wasn't the gist. The gist was about Greg Ellis and about taking a look at every guy who gets cut.

And, no I certainly don't want to argue with you "for the sake of arguing." When I want to argue for the sake of arguing, I like to pick on BeantownGreg. He can actually choose a topic and stay with it, although he's been wrong so many times on Antonio Pierce.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

"And the gist of this (as I understood it) is the Redskins stockpiling other people's scraps and overvaluing and/or overpaying them. Regardless of whether they were actually cut or their original team made NO attempt at resigning them.Posted by: brownwood26"

I don't understand this argument. Teams pick up players who've been released for a variety of reasons that may have little to do with on-field performance. Those reasons include age, or the presence of a lofty draft pick or new free agent the club wants to go with, or player unhappiness, or difficulty with the player's agent, or of course, money again.... I'd speculate that about half the time, the team doesn't actually have a better player in the fold at the time the player is released. So somebody else picks him up and he gets a new start elsewhere.

For instance, Zorn made it clear he wanted to try a better pass blocker on the right side. That's why he picked Heyer to start over Jansen last season. It's not a sign of his commitment to or belief in Heyer. If a better pass blocker comes along (including Bridges or Williams), Zorn will send Heyer toddling off to the bench. The Zorn offense uses the pass to set up the run. The Skins last year were a run team first. That's the change Zorn wants to make, and it's job that's depending on it.

It's not a question of 'leftovers' or 'leavings', and as somebody pointed out, the Pats sign a whole lot of them. It's about depth and the need for experience, which most NFL coaches value a whole lot more than youth, and always will.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 3, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

he's a winner alright! suit him up and call him the starting RT.

Posted by: dadanimal | June 3, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Santana got a nice deal. And once again the Redskins prove they are a master of the CAP. Eric Shaffer can never leave......

I noticed voidable years are used often with dem skins....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

No, that wasn't the gist. The gist was about Greg Ellis and about taking a look at every guy who gets cut.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 9:01 AM

Well, they do take a look at MOST name guys that get cut. Fact. So it will always become blog fodder and will always be speculated by the media as long as Snyder owns the team. Fact.

My OPINION is that they have for far too long used other people's scraps as key ingredients to their mix. Instead of arguing with you, I'll leave it at that.

And Samson, the Pats can get away with that because those guys have superior coaching, a steady organization, and offer vets a chance to win at the end of their career. The Redskins can't compare to that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Santana got a nice deal. And once again the Redskins prove they are a master of the CAP. Eric Shaffer can never leave......

I noticed voidable years are used often with dem skins....

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 9:15 AM

You know, I think Eric might be irrelevant. If he got hit by a bus, nothing would change -- these guys' agents would propose sweet deals like Santana just got.

Wish someone would get me a big up-front bonus and a lot of voidable years.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

This thing is deader than the a bag full of zombies.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

So how many of you are going to stay up to watch the US kick the crap out of Costa Rica tonight in World Cup Qualifying? It's a big moment for the US, we've never won at Saprissa, and this could be huge for the initial kickoff of qualifying (beating Mexico, Trinidad & Tobago, and Costa Rica in the first 3 matches -- three recent World Cup squads).

Jozy is going to be straight pimpin' tonight (and I might break my tv if Bradley opts not to start him)...

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Is competition for who starts really being instituted this year or is it just window dressing? Competition for playing time really upgrades the level of play of the entire Team.

Are they really serious about it this year?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 3, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

The Chris Wilson move to slb continues to garner interest.

At 6'4", 247 lbs., with the ability to run and/or play with his hand on the ground, Wilson's possible position switch addition gives the skins defense instant depth and athleticism.

And then add Brian Okrapo to that depth chart, and one has to give the skins FO some dap for improving the linebacker group:

R Thomas--a very capable player--working at wlb behind Rocky Mac.

HB Blades--a guy who started last season-- can back up slb and mlb.

A Fincher is a capable special teamer, versitile back up--again, young.

We complain about the issues with the o-line, but a blogga would be hard-pressed to complain about the increased depth and youth at the linebacker spot.

And speaking of the o-line, what's Mikey Williams weighing about right now.......?

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 3, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Don't be surprised if RThomas takes more snaps at SLB than Orakpo will this year. It all depends on Orakpo's development...

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Thunder,
That's no parody, is it? I could only take 34 seconds.

Posted by: mack1 | June 3, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

4thfloor

"...Don't be surprised if RThomas takes more snaps at SLB than Orakpo will this year...."

Please don't say this. It begs the question of why did they draft the guy--Orakpo-- in the 1st place if he's going to comeoff the bench?

I can see where Blades starts at slb, and then Orakpo slides into the spot in the same way Sean Taylor did.

But seeing how the team took The Big 'O' at 13 when a right tackle was a more pressing need (tell me you prefer Bridges over say, Oher), the Landry route, starting on day one, is preferable to this blogga.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 3, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I just got here. Let me see if I follow this:

Today is June 3. Orakpo has never even worn pads and a Redskins helmet at the same time. And we're worried now about whether he will be starting or coming off the bench? And thinking that we should have drafted Oher because we don't know the answer to that question?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Mosley's Beast Rankings:
OL: 4th...agreed
DL: 2nd... Id say Giants are 1 and everone else is about even so agreed. BTW we should keep Orakpo at DE
Secondary: 4th..wtf??
Rogers, Hall, Smoot, Landry, Horton, Barnes, Moore, Doughty. Clearly should be 1 or 2..Cowboys have newman and who else? Giants and Eagles both have good ones too but the birds lost Dawkins and the giants secondary is more of a result of their pass rush. Skins had man to man coverage all year with zero pass rush and for that reason they have to be 1st or 2nd
QB- 4th...JC should be behind Eli, McNabb, and Romo

Another thing, I was watching NFL live the other day and they were worried about moving Orakpo to SAM lb and other ppl seem to be worried too. Does anyone else think we should leave him at DE and let him do what he does best?

Posted by: jeffco01 | June 3, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Bridges problems over?

I guess you can say that is water under the bridge?


HELLO, is this thing on

ahem ahem, whew tough crowd,( panic setting in)

Man women be shopping, women be shopping.

JUST FORGET IT

Posted by: GreatOne1 | June 3, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"Don't be surprised if RThomas takes more snaps at SLB than Orakpo will this year. It all depends on Orakpo's development...

Posted by: 4thFloor"

I'd say it's much more likely that you see McIntosh taking the majority of snaps at SLB (if Orakpo doesn't work out there). Thomas and Blades would fight for the WLB spot, but IMO, Rocky or Fincher would be the top two choices after Orakpo at that spot (or Wilson, should he develop).

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

are the skins 0 and 16 yet?

it's funny i think this was the year that jasno was going to get totally vindicated by this team and he up and leaves...i guess it was a good cashout...can't blame him for quiting while ahead...

Posted by: dealer1 | June 3, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

This thing is deader than the a bag full of zombies.

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Shouldn't that be undeader than a bag of zombies?

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 3, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Isn't MacIntosh a Weak side backer? I'm personally hoping that Wilson works out as the Sam. That way Orakpo can do his thing where he does it best, although I also worry about his size at left end.

Posted by: Original_etrod | June 3, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

deader than rabbits?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I'd say it's much more likely that you see McIntosh taking the majority of snaps at SLB (if Orakpo doesn't work out there). Thomas and Blades would fight for the WLB spot, but IMO, Rocky or Fincher would be the top two choices after Orakpo at that spot (or Wilson, should he develop).

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 11:16 AM

I'm pretty sure McIntosh is about 230 lbs, which is a bit small to play the strong side in this defense. Maybe in a Cover 2 you could play him there, but not here. Marcus Washington (when healthy) was the prototype of what they wanted there and he was close to 250 lbs. Plus, I don't agree with playing musical chairs with positions...you weaked the WLB position and the SLB spot isn't properly addressed because you're playing Rocky out of position.

I'd take my chances with Blades there (who is also undersized for that spot) and leave Orakpo at DE. I think it's borderline retarded what they're doing with him, moving him 2 or 3 different spots as a rookie. Put his hand in the ground and let him excel at that before moving him all over the field.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Actually you dont need big SLB's if you have big run stuffing DE's like we do. you need bigger SLB's if you have smaller DE's or Pass rushing DE's that play mostly every down

Posted by: GreatOne1 | June 3, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Zombie Rabbits?

Posted by: alex35332 | June 3, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

does anyone know what (a) benign growth is?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Sorry. Zombie Hamsters (with big pointy teeth)

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | June 3, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

PSP - I forgot that somewhere it was said that Rocky might/will move over to SAM. But my point remains the same.

It is more likely a player not named Orakpo will take more snaps at OLB than Orakpo will. It's too early to say he will be cemented or not. But he is still a rookie. He's been accused of being a workout warriror. I haven't heard where his football senses lie. And that's what's important. Your familiarility with the game and game speed will dictate his snaps and not how much he can bench press......

Posted by: 4thFloor | June 3, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I'd take my chances with Blades there (who is also undersized for that spot) and leave Orakpo at DE. I think it's borderline retarded what they're doing with him, moving him 2 or 3 different spots as a rookie. Put his hand in the ground and let him excel at that before moving him all over the field.

Posted by: brownwood26


I completely agree. Blades did a decent job at that spot last year. I still am kind of hoping MWashington comes back and plays the position for like 9 games and the 7 injured games Blades can step in. KEEP ORAKPO at DE.. Orakpo, Griffin, Haynesworth, Carter is much better than Daniels, Griffin, Haynesworth, Carter

Posted by: jeffco01 | June 3, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

brown, I think they just want to see if by moving him around they can maximize his potential/production.

I don't think they're overwhelming Orakpo by doing this.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

PSP - what time is that Qualifier on? I guess I'll check the guide 2nite & at least DVR it.

I do think we need to give some FO credit on the cap sway. ... I'm still thinking they're trying to bring in another OLiner. Just a hunch, obviously.

and today's listening assignment is:

Mission of Burma

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 3, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Jeffco, I wouldn't even keep Carter in the lineup...make him a situational guy and go with Daniels/Wynn on 1st and 2nd down. I've heard that Orakpo is better suited to playing RE so I would think they'd play him there to take advantage of that athleticism.

But then again, I also expected them to play him at DE and not LB...

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

1)My 2 year-old daughter
2)Any monkey
3)The Michelin man

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 6:00 AM

"Monkey" is a bad word to use around here. Just ask Oguchi Onyewu.

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 3, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Why have Marcus Washington back if he isn't healthy? Or can't play at least 16 games.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

brown, I think they just want to see if by moving him around they can maximize his potential/production.

I don't think they're overwhelming Orakpo by doing this.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:41 AM

I'm just sayin'...it's hard enough to make the transition from college to the pros, why make it tougher by throwing 2 or 3 positions at him? That first year should be dedicated to him learning the speed of the game and allowing him to get a comfort level. Then if you wanna get cute with him in Year 2, go for it. But this team needs him to play and play well YESTERDAY! They have undersized, undrafted guys and AARP members at DE right now and they can't afford to bring him along slowly like the Steelers do. They need him out there Week 1 holding down one of those DE spots.

I know they have a hole at LB, but that's much more easily filled if they've got their sh*t together on the D-line.

Posted by: brownwood26 | June 3, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, Serena has exited the FO. I was hoping that she would lash her cans to the deck and go out and kick ass in the finals. She brings a whole new meaning to the word "juggernaut".

Posted by: AntonChigurh | June 3, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

"I think it's borderline retarded what they're doing with him, moving him 2 or 3 different spots as a rookie."

It depends. Some players have made the transition very well in the past (Peter Boulware), while others have not (Mathias Kiwanuka). All depends on what kind of player Orakpo is. I'll leave it to Blache to figure that out.

*Though I personally think it's significantly more important to have a dominant defensive line than it is to have a dominant LB corp. That, more than the transition itself, is what bothers me.

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I agree w/ Brownie. The concept is flawed. I can excuse it for the preseason. But we've seen some mis-interpretation of talent on this team before. (No I'm NOT bringing up LeVar..ok, mebbe a little - lol).

I would feel more comfortable if by the last two games of preseason Velas-Orakpo had some defined position he could develop.

And yes, I will continue to annoyingly refer to him as Velas-Orakpo... sorry, I can't get it outta my head.

Posted by: DikShuttle | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I'll be watching that "barn-burner" soccer game tonight.

What time does it come on? Channel?

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

talent_evaluator

"...Orakpo has never even worn pads and a Redskins helmet at the same time. And we're worried about Oher,..."


Yes: we are way ahead of ourselves.

Is there any better place to be?

Getting ahead of the game is what happens when you try to stay on task in this blog and write just about redskin issues.

And besides, the news I'd like to read about--is Campbell sharp? are Thomas/Kelly/Davis practicing like they 'get it' the second go 'round?--isn't being delivered.

This information dry point in the NFL media season is when the navel gazing gets some nettlesome nabobs of negativism added to it.

So we make stuff up and drag this thing out until the camp ends, and the non-skins posts in the form of clever entertainment returns.

For example: NBA Finals anyone?

Moe takes the Magic in 7 games.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"PSP - what time is that Qualifier on? I guess I'll check the guide 2nite & at least DVR it."

10pm ET. My guess is it'll either be on ESPN or ESPN2. (Champion's League Final was on ESPN, the first time I can remember a soccer game not being shown on ESPN2 or ESPN Classic. We're moving on up!)

Posted by: psps23 | June 3, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I'll be watching that "barn-burner" soccer game tonight.
What time does it come on? Channel?
Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM

Yeah, and more importantly, what’s the over/under?......One?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 3, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

ESPN is carrying it at 10:00E

Posted by: Curzon417 | June 3, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

brown, relax a little homie. I think he'll be fine come September. If he doesn't do well at LB then no big, they'll play him exclusively at DE and alternate Blades, Wilson, and Thomas at SLB.


psps, are you saying that Kiwanuka doesn't play the LB/DE spot well now, or as a rookie.

He looked damned good to me last year and the year before playing both.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Yes: we are way ahead of ourselves.

Is there any better place to be?

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM

Second guessing the draft choice you didn't make two months ago is "way ahead of ourselves"? Maybe in the the parallel universe of SloMoeShun.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

And besides, the news I'd like to read about--is Campbell sharp? are Thomas/Kelly/Davis practicing like they 'get it' the second go 'round?--isn't being delivered.

Posted by: MistaMoe | June 3, 2009 11:50 AM

Do you think this might be because the OTA's are closed to the public? That's why I think the Post should turn this blog over to a real Redskins Insider, Vinnie.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | June 3, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Lake show in six baby... Kobe, Kobe, Kobe...

You know what's funny? When Kobe and the Lakers lost to Boston lsst year, people said that Mike Jordan would've never let that happen -- but the dude the whole world wants to be the next Jordan just lost in the conference finals.

Yet, I hear no one talking about how LeBrat doesn't measure up to Jordan due to his teams ECF exit.

I never saw a guy get the benefit of the doubt so much when he hasn't won anything.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and more importantly, what’s the over/under?......One?


Posted by: dlhaze1 | June 3, 2009 11:56 AM

More like "push" 'cause it's sure to be a tie by the time regulation is over. A whole freakin' 90 minutes, right?

Spare me the drama.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

benign growth: one that does not have the potential to spread. It can include solid tumors, cysts, etc. Depending on the location "benign" tumors/growths can be very dangerous because they put pressure on surrounding organs causing them to malfunction (a benign brain tumor), or are in a spot where they could occlude passageways throughout the body (benign tonsil growth/nasal polyps, etc.).

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | June 3, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

thanks, JFK...

oh, and beeps.

Posted by: RedDMV | June 3, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

beep...........

Posted by: jmicrodoc | June 3, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

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