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Brooks' Confidence Boosted by Past (Update 3)

From Jason Reid

After his poor performance last week against the Saints, rookie punter Durant Brooks could lose his job if he struggles against Arizona. Brooks won the Ray Guy Award as college football's top punter in the 2007 season, and the trophy has provided inspiration.

"I was talking to my dad, and he was like, 'Man, you need to glance at that trophy you have,' " Brooks said. "I looked at it, and it reminded me I've done this before. I had great games in college. I had a great career. I can do this. I have the ability."

Of course, the NFL is not college, and Brooks must prove he can punt effectively under pressure at this level, special teams coach Danny Smith said. "He's got to do it," Smith said. "He's got to go out there and make it happen."

Dissatisfied with veteran Derrick Frost, the Redskins made the unusual move of drafting a punter, selecting Brooks from Georgia Tech in the sixth round with the 168th overall pick. Durant feels added pressure because he "was a draft pick," he said. "There is a lot of pressure of being a draft pick, but it's nothing I can't handle."

...

With No. 2 wide receiver Antwaan Randle El struggling on punt returns, top wide receiver Santana Moss could have an increased role in the return game. "I'm done talking about the punt returns," Randle El said. "We've been talking about that a whole lot."

In his first four seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Randle El twice averaged more than 10 yards on returns. He had an 8.8-yard average during his first season with the Redskins in 2006, and finished at 6.1 yards last season.

So far this season, Randle El is averaging 4.2 yards on five returns and has no gains of more than 10 yards. His fumble against the Saints set up their first touchdown.

Moss led the AFC with a 16.5-yard average on punt returns in the 2002 season and has an 11.5-yard career average, "but I'm just a backup," he said. "Too much [has] been made about this whole thing.

"El is our guy and he does a great job. Nothing really has changed. I'll just be there if they need me, but I'm a backup. That's it."

Having their Nos. 1 and 2 wide receivers return punts is risky for the Redskins, especially considering Coach Jim Zorn's spread offense features many three- and four-receiver sets. Wideouts James Thrash and Malcolm Kelly are recovering from ankle injuries and Devin Thomas has struggled running routes and learning the playbook.

"You got to do," Moss said, "what you got to do."

...

Strong-side linebacker Marcus Washington, who sat out last week's game because of a hamstring injury, was listed as questionable after practicing. "It feels pretty good, it feels better than last week, and I've been smart with it all week," Washington said. "I'm feeling pretty good about my chances [of playing], but I sill think we need to go out and test it. I still think it will be" a game-time decision.

Washington was sidelined for four games and missed parts of others last season because of recurring hamstring problems.

"We need to do some pregame stuff to make sure," Washington said, "but I'm feeling pretty positive about it."

...

Special teams standout Khary Campbell, sidelined last week because of a bruised thigh, was listed as questionable. "I practiced every day this week," he said. "I'll play." ... Middle linebacker London Fletcher, excused from practice recently for personal reasons, is expected to play against the Cardinals, a team spokesman said. ... Safety Kareem Moore (hamstring) was listed as questionable. ... Cornerbacks Carlos Rogers (groin) and Fred Smoot (hip), fullback Mike Sellers (hamstring), defensive end Jason Taylor (knee) and linebacker H.B. Blades (knee) were probable.

By Cindy Boren  |  September 19, 2008; 1:55 PM ET
 
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edible panties

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Cindy - Any comment from Zorn on how Devin Thomas looked today?

Posted by: Chris | September 19, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain the differences of punting in College vs the pros?

are all the guys coming at you faster?
You should be used to the croweds.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Lose his job to whom?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Lose his job to whom?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:06 PM

Ray Guy, perhaps?

Posted by: Chris | September 19, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The pro and college footballs are not identical size are they?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

too much punter, not enough cowbell

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"... Of course, the NFL is not college ..."

And Northern Iowa is not Georgia Tech. I'm still believing in Brooks (if only b/c I pimped so hard in the spring to draft a punter) because he has a personal history of success at a high level. Also because a high punt at least gives the cover guys time to get in the returner's grill to make him fair catch, even if its a short punt. A low line drive punt, even if its on inside the 10, gives the returner time to set, accelerate, and juke.

So even IF punting is one* of the biggest question marks on the squad, Brooks is still > than Frost.

* Among the others, punt returns.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

From Bill Simmons

"Don't these Redskins-Cards games always end with the Cards trailing by four but driving for the winning TD, then Kurt Warner fumbling the handoff or losing the ball on a sack as Larry Fitzgerald flips off his helmet in disgust? I feel like we've been here before."

Posted by: f_smoot27 | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Have they decided to add any one else to punt returns yet?

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Lose his job to whom?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:06 PM

not Derrick Frost

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Lose his job to whom?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:06 PM

Lorenzo Alexander

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

ceratto is a complete idiot for keeping brooks. Wait, ceratto is an idiot period.

Posted by: zap | September 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Have they decided to add any one else to punt returns yet?

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM

They're still going with ARE but they might mix in Moss or a healthy Thrash depending on the situation.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/For_Smith__Two_Early_Season_Issues_to_Keep_An_Eye_On_23156.jsp

Posted by: Chris | September 19, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, punters are like pinkie toes with nail polish.

"You want a punter? I can get you a punter, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me. ... Hell, I can get you a punter by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

Actually, strike that. A toe is funnier than a punter.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Lose his job to whom?

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 2:06 PM

Lorenzo Alexander

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:09 PM

Hi, I'm Lorenzo, and I'll be your waiter this evening.

Posted by: Lorenzo | September 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Alex is a freaking love machine!!!

Posted by: Bonita | September 19, 2008 1:39 PM

Shhh, thats a secret.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 1:56 PM

DORK

Posted by: Call them like I see them | September 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo's Oil?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"I looked at it, and it reminded me I've done this before. I had great games in college. I had a great career. I can do this. I have the ability."

Does anyone agree that this sounds a lot like Stuart Smalley and his daily affirmations?

Posted by: More Cowbell | September 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo Charles?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

airtight mom

Posted by: Alex has an | September 19, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo Lamas?

Posted by: Tripp | September 19, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Again, how's that draft pick of a punter workin' for ya? Your man Vinny is a Matt Millenite. Get rid of a good punter and sign a dog, 'cause otherwise the team might win field position battles. Say, does Vinny realize his job is to improve your team? Maybe somebody should explain that to him. Could be enlightening.

Posted by: King Card | September 19, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

DORK

Posted by: Call them like I see them | September 19, 2008 2:16 PM

well yes whats your point?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I think that the pro ball and the college ball are different sizes. At least they used to be 30 years ago.

Things move much, much quicker in the pros. There is more pressure, more people watching you - and they are nastier. One look at the people on here - in addition to several articles in nationally famous newspaper, etc.

It's a much different beast in the pros. A lot more money involved too.

Posted by: charlie | September 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

healthy Thrash = oxymoron

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo DeMidici

Posted by: Tulsa | September 19, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Please no Mas to Moss as PR!

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Oh and the thread before last was one of the worst ever......wow...just wow.

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

DORK

Posted by: Call them like I see them | September 19, 2008 2:16 PM

well yes whats your point?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:20 PM

I think his point is that you are a dork. Seems self explanatory.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE -- do not put Santana back there to receive a punt. Too risky. If he goes down, this team is done.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

You know, we might be on to something here. Whenever a front-office suit makes a bonehead draft or trade, we could call it a "Millen". "He sure Millened that draft pick"; "That Cerrato; what a Millen!"
"Nice trade, Millenhead!"

Posted by: King Card | September 19, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Chris | September 19, 2008 2:11 PM

Thanks for the info & the update!

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo Mata?

Posted by: | September 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh and the thread before last was one of the worst ever......wow...just wow.

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 2:23 PM

You mean "In-Law Insider"? Nothing like religion and politics to bring folks together.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

KC,
We all agree on VC.

Posted by: stumped | September 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Again, how's that draft pick of a punter workin' for ya? Your man Vinny is a Matt Millenite. Get rid of a good punter and sign a dog, 'cause otherwise the team might win field position battles. Say, does Vinny realize his job is to improve your team? Maybe somebody should explain that to him. Could be enlightening.

Posted by: King Card | September 19, 2008 2:19 PM

Wow, is this coming from a supporter of the team that drafted Matt Leinart, Leonard Davis, Bryant Johnson, and Antrell Rolle with top 10 picks all in this decade? (I actually don't know if Johnson was, but I'm using an educated guess with your team's W-L history). That's an admirable entourage right there.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo Booker

Posted by: CBT | September 19, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Lorenzo Neal

Posted by: Chris | September 19, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse


You leave Matt Leinart alone!!! He's just; he's just....uh...ummm....aw heck, I got nothin'...

Posted by: King Card | September 19, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Frank Lorenzo

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Redskins 24 Cardinals 17.

Obama 55% McCain 45%. Fu^% McBush!!!

11-5 babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

Posted by: Obama is da Man!!! | September 19, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

King Card ... gotta question for you.

If the Skins beat the Cards, will the NFC West teams win any games vs the NFC East this year? 0-16?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, punters are like pinkie toes with nail polish.

"You want a punter? I can get you a punter, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me. ... Hell, I can get you a punter by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

Actually, strike that. A toe is funnier than a punter.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:13 PM


"The Big Lebowski" a classic in my view!

Posted by: cosmofla | September 19, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

King Card, I feel your pain. You may remember one Heath Shuler that we banked on. At least you have Kurt Warner to fall back on. Just make sure he doesn't go headbutting any walls.

By the way, I was looking at your 2005 draft... boy was that a doozy.

1 Antrel Rolle Miami (FL)
2 J.J. Arrington California
3 Eric Green Virginia Tech
3 Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4 Elton Brown Virginia
5 Lance Mitchell Oklahoma
7 LeRon McCoy Indiana (Pa.)

Bet you'd like to have that one over again.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

psps, Elton Brown is still their starting tackle ... and he's not horrible. Let's hope we can hope for the same from Chad Reinhart.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Quick unrelated question ... do the Skins have any shot at compensatory draft picks this year? I don't recall signing any free agents, much less that might still be on the roster. Brunell and Prioleau made rosters elsewhere. Is that it? Is that enough for a 7th round compensatory pick?

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Then me and Lorenzo rollin in the Benzo

Posted by: Ice Cube | September 19, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

If you don't perform, I want my trophy back....

Posted by: Ray Guy | September 19, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I think his point is that you are a dork. Seems self explanatory.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:23 PM

Its like saying, you breath air.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Well it appears some cry and gripe about what others want to post. Look, if you see anything remotely regarding politics or religion, scroll the F down; it's that simple. Whether it's football, politics, or religion based post, people can post whatever the hell they want.

Get over it. Not everyone is game to read or post lame ass jokes, or repeat the same things about cerrato and the direction of the organization all damn day.

Posted by: Red from the DMV saying wow... just wow for posting on In-Law Insider | September 19, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

OK !!!! Which one of you Gonzo's was boning my wife last night while I was at the bar ????

Posted by: OG Barno | September 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Marcus Washington was listed as questionable after practicing.

Khary Campbell was listed as questionable.

Middle linebacker London Fletcher, excused from practice recently for personal reasons, is expected to play against the Cardinals, a team spokesman said. ... Safety Kareem Moore (hamstring) was listed as questionable. ... Cornerbacks Carlos Rogers (groin) and Fred Smoot (hip), fullback Mike Sellers (hamstring), defensive end Jason Taylor (knee) and linebacker H.B. Blades (knee) were probable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Don't you have to actually draft the player to get compensation for him? I thought I read that somewhere. If that's the case, neither Proileau or Brunell apply.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Again, how's that draft pick of a punter workin' for ya? Your man Vinny is a Matt Millenite. Get rid of a good punter and sign a dog, 'cause otherwise the team might win field position battles. Say, does Vinny realize his job is to improve your team? Maybe somebody should explain that to him. Could be enlightening.

Posted by: King Card | September 19, 2008 2:19 PM

I was under the impression that Cardinals fans were not allowed to speak on any other teams' sites until they won something, anything, or even just strung together a few .500 seasons in a row. We actually have fans from one of the top 3 laughingstock franhises in the league trying to talk smack here? Freakin hilarious.

Posted by: Chief Zee | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

king card = regualar RI blogger

Posted by: dude, you're not fooling anyone | September 19, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

2005 - Washington Redskins

1 Carlos Rogers, Auburn
1 Jason Campbell, Auburn
4 Manuel White, UCLA
5 Robert McCune, Louisville
6 Jared Newberry, Stanford
7 Nehemiah Broughton, The Citadel

Skins got two starters, Cards got two starters. Maybe its best to think about 2005 as a year that would have been good to trade draft picks.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Did we get compensation for Sean Taylor?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

OK !!!! Which one of you Gonzo's was boning my wife last night while I was at the bar ????

Posted by: OG Barno | September 19, 2008 2:50 PM

Me & Chris Cooley were, don't take it personal Barno.

Posted by: Lorenzo Lamas | September 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Don't you have to actually draft the player to get compensation for him? I thought I read that somewhere. If that's the case, neither Proileau or Brunell apply.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM

I think that's why we never saw anything for Pierce either, because he wasn't a draft pick.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

We actually have fans from one of the top 3 laughingstock franhises in the league trying to talk smack here? Freakin hilarious.

Posted by: Chief Zee | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM

What are the other two? I mean is any franchise more pathetic? I mean seriously, you could say houston but they have an excuse of being less than 10 years old.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh and special thanks and shoutouts to John D and Finally From VA from the thread before last. Unfortunately I pissed off a couple of folks, anons and regular posters alike, so I won't be posting anything political until November.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 19, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Red of the DMV
But then the terrorists win.

You know their goal is to stifle democracy.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

psps, I think its for guys who were drafted when they entered the league, but not necessarily by the team losing the player. But I think the Skins got an offset for London Fletcher, who was not drafted.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

What are the other two? I mean is any franchise more pathetic? I mean seriously, you could say houston but they have an excuse of being less than 10 years old.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 2:55 PM

Actually, I believe the Cardinals were listed as the number 32 best (meaning worst) franchise since the merger on ESPN. Where were the skins you ask? No. 8, just behind (somehow) the Minnesota Vikings. Ahead of the Giants and Eagles.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Red,

Calm down you chooch. Go to another thread and talk Politics no one cares about your stupid views anyway.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Do your thang Red, so what if you pissed off a few bigots.

Posted by: Slick Willy from Philly | September 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Actually, her Church feels that any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God. All Christians believe this...including your man, Obama, if he is truly a Christian. True Christians believe that the only way to eternal life is through Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 12:40 PM

When did Jesus say that God will literally kill all non-believers? Please pass on the quote from the NT and I will agree with you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 12:46 PM

John 14:6 - Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to the Father except through me."

Rom 10:9-10 - if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.


Posted by: Karen | September 19, 2008 1:19 PM

Karen, you were responding to my challenge to Anonymous to post a quote from the NT that proved his claim that "... any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God. All Christians believe this..." That is why I asked for a quote where JESUS said that GOD WOULD LITERALLY KILL NON-BELIEVERS. The quotes you posted do not say that. No where does Jesus say God will kill non-believers, that is, come down and smite them, where they once were living and breathing human beings, but God came down and killed them. That is very different than quotes where Jesus and others say he is the only Savior, which I agree most Christians believe and must believe. That is fine. My point is that so-called Christians who claim that Israelis are dying in Palestinian attacks because of their non-belief are not backed up by anything in the NT; nor is it accurate at all to say what Anonymous said above -- that all Christians believe "that any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God." Anyone who believes that non-Christians should convert or die at the hands of God, therefore, is not a true Christian.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

This guy thinks the Skins got their 2008 compensatory picks for losing Dockery, Warrick Holdman, and Kenny Wright.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/nfl-chat/189009-projecting-2008-compensatory-draft-picks-adamjt13.html

If those latter two get you picks, now I'm wondering whether the Skins get into the compensatory pick math game for "losing" Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuleta.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Sween, I project Reinhart as a guard rather than a tackle, plus this will be a huge need when Kendall is gone after this season. As for Brooks, I agree that it is too early to call for his head after just two bad games. By the way, Frost was decent for Green Bay in two games this season. Having Moss return punts is a panic move, the risk is not worth the reward. I wish they could coach Torrence to return punts, he returned kicks pretty well during his first year at college and he still has a very good speed. As a cornerback, he should have pretty good lateral movement and loosing No. 4 corner to injury is less costly than loosing No. 1 receiver.

Posted by: M | September 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Actually, strike that ... I remember that we traded Archuleta ... and cut Lloyd. That's not the same as losing through free agency.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

HA HA SKINNYS SLEF DISTRUCT N BOOFER DONT NED TO DO NE THANG HAHA SKINNYS HERE SOM TISUE FORM MY BOOHOO BOX U BOZOS NEED IT MAYB TOW


HEHEHE

Posted by: BOOFER | September 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

This guy thinks the Skins got their 2008 compensatory picks for losing Dockery, Warrick Holdman, and Kenny Wright.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/nfl-chat/189009-projecting-2008-compensatory-draft-picks-adamjt13.html

If those latter two get you picks, now I'm wondering whether the Skins get into the compensatory pick math game for "losing" Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuleta.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:05 PM

Sween, they award compensatory picks for losing free agents, not the players that the team cut or traded. Accordingly, there will be no compensation pick for Lloyd (cut) or Archuletta (traded).

Posted by: M | September 19, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Quick poll:

How many wins does the NFC West (AZ, SF, Seattle, StL) get playing NFC East teams this year (16 total games) ??

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Arizona, Phoenix, Chicago, LA, or whatever is THE worst franchise of all-time. End of story.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this franchise has been in existence since 1898 and has done exactly what in the postseason, in any era?

Nothing.

The Cardinals suck.

But, we do want to thank you for drafting Ken Harvey and giving us players with nicknames like "Night Train".

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 19, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

+++From Jason Reid

After his poor performance last week against the Saints, rookie punter Durant Brooks could lose his job if he struggles against Arizona. Brooks won the Ray Guy Award as college football's top punter in the 2007 season, and the trophy has provided inspiration.+++

It will take a LOT more than two bad games for Brooks to be cut. If he was cut, Cerrato would have the potential triple whammy of DRAFTING the wrong guy, KEEPING the wrong guy, and risking giving up on the RIGHT GUY all too soon.

Just as hitters and golfers can lose their swing, then get it back, Brooks may only need to redeem his muscle memory.

Posted by: Corkczar | September 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

M, thinking the same thing about Rinehart as the ultimate replacement for Kendall ... but I sense the Skins powers-that-be would be more eager to have Jansen fill that role first, before Rinehart.

The one thing that does seem clear to me is that the Skins must be feeling more confident in their depth behind Kendall because Kendall has been pulling ALOT more than he did last year. Seems like they are playing Kendall way harder than I remember before. In one of the preseason games, he pulled wide right to block for Portis out near the far right sideline ... for a gain of something like 8-9 yards. I remember thinking "great play, but what are they THINKING about putting him in that situation with HIS knees?!?!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Sween, looks like i was wrong. It would be awesome if we got a compensatory pick for Brunell, no matter how low it is. Even at this moment, despite all his ardent critics, he seems to add something to the Redskins when you least expect it. That's his skins career in a nutshell. I have no idea how he does it.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I believe the Cardinals were listed as the number 32 best (meaning worst) franchise since the merger on ESPN. Where were the skins you ask? No. 8, just behind (somehow) the Minnesota Vikings. Ahead of the Giants and Eagles.

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 3:02 PM

I have seen one going through the full history of all teams and listed them at 31, with Houston on the bottom, but the Texans have an excuse.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I have called on my personal deity, The One-Eyed Odin, to smite all religious talk on RI.

Have we really begun discussing which of us fellow Skins Fans will burn in eternal hell fire?

Very weird...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I do believe that there was a statment when Brunell left that, depending on whether or not he played for New Orleans, we would get some kind of a comp pick

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 19, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Rom 10:9-10 - if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.


Posted by: Karen | September 19, 2008 1:19 PM

I have a suggestion Karen. How do you justify touching the ol' Pigskin on Sunday? Bible says it's a no-no, you know? How do footballers get around it? Oh wait, gloves.

The only Cardinals we care about here are the ones on the field Sunday, not the ones who used to hide the fact that Priests molested kiddies.

Posted by: Cardinal Sin | September 19, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Red,

Calm down you chooch. Go to another thread and talk Politics no one cares about your stupid views anyway.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:03 PM

Disclaimer: I'm not really like the guy that you'll perceive me to be when responding to this jag-off, I'm just playing his dumbass anon games. He has nothing to offer to my copy and paste job from earlier, other than to note it as such. So with that said...

Anon,

Your mother does. She said as much the other night. Nothing like stroking her dead carcass. And obvisouly you do as well fuccstick, otherwise you wouldn't respond.

You anon d0uche.

What's sad is that you're probably a regular poster here that usually talks sh_t to people who post anonymous, but since you're to f'n scared to attach your regular name to your post (I know damn well you are) you'd rather be a timid turd.

Stop riding my c0ck already, clown!

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Which of the three 2nd rounders the Redskins picked this offseason (Thomas, Davis, Kelly) do you think will score the first touchdown? And in which game?

I'm guessing Fred Davis, against Arizona.

Posted by: ED | September 19, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

CL - I'll see your One Eyed Odin, and raise you a Three Eyed Thor

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I think IF Kelly can stay healthy, he can contribute pretty quick...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Who here thinks ARE is scheduled for a breakout game?

I've got to decide whether to start him or Boldin. I really don't want to start Boldin. Any reasonable chance ARE outscores Boldin on Sunday?

Posted by: psps23 | September 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

You know, psps, if someone says it, the opposite will happen - All things being equal, I still say Boldin produces more than ARE

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 19, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow Red has issues. You really are making an idiot of yourself today. I recommend you take the rest of the day off. That kind of language is rarely seen up here and I for one don't mind that.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Does this look fake to anyone else?

http://www.cnn.com/

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

We actually have fans from one of the top 3 laughingstock franhises in the league trying to talk smack here? Freakin hilarious.

Posted by: Chief Zee | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM

I haven't seen any rankings but I would have to say that for the 2008 season the franchises in the worst shape are KC chiefs, St.Louis rams, Detroit lions & the Raiders-unless Al passes on- that would bump them up over a few teams.

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Jesus said lots of stuff.
Keep it up Red.

Posted by: MC | September 19, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

psps, at least Brunell gave us those few minutes late in the game in Dallas on a Monday night ... connecting with Moss ... deep ... twice.

Holdman and Wright gave us nothing but the taste of bile up around our teeth and gums ... and as it turned out, Rob Jackson and Chris Horton!!!!

Note: Brunell was originally a 5th round pick.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Prioleau was originally a 4th round pick.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow Red has issues. You really are making an idiot of yourself today. I recommend you take the rest of the day off. That kind of language is rarely seen up here and I for one don't mind that.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2008 3:29 PM

You're just now noticing this, Skinz? For starters, I'm sure there are many who share the same sediment as you. But you know what? I don't give a damn. Like I'm supposed to give two sh_ts about what you mind and don't mind. Who the hell are you supposed to be?

Take your deputy crap elsewhere. You don't regulate a damn thing. If it bothers you that much; SCROLL THE F DOWN! As soon as your virgin eyes read something that compromises your morals; SCROLL THE F DOWN!

It isn't that hard if you put your mind to it, but you'd rather worry about or mind the content of my post.

I recommend you take the rest of eternity off, f you.

I had no problems with you, but you wanted to play the role of the dude in the white hat.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | September 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Jesus said lots of stuff.
Keep it up Red.

Posted by: MC | September 19, 2008 3:31 PM

And then Jesus told John "I have to pee," hold on for a minute. And John said "I told you you should have gone before we left," and Jesus "but I did not have to go then" and John replied "do you want me to turn this camel around?"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

We actually have fans from one of the top 3 laughingstock franhises in the league trying to talk smack here? Freakin hilarious.

Posted by: Chief Zee | September 19, 2008 2:51 PM


I haven't seen any rankings but I would have to say that for the 2008 season the franchises in the worst shape are KC chiefs, St.Louis rams, Detroit lions & the Raiders-unless Al passes on- that would bump them up over a few teams.

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 3:29 PM

I'm not talking about just this season, and I think everyone understands that. I'm talking in general, the Cardinals are perennial losers, certainly the Chiefs and Rams have won at some point in their history. Like I said, easily top 3 laughingstock franchises in the league.

Posted by: Chief Zee | September 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

This morning, Vinny said that the reason that Chris Horton slotted so low (and lasted so long) was because he had a slow time in the 40. He said that they overlooked that because he was "football fast." I dunno, but to me, it looks like Horton is all over the field and where the action is ... and quickly.

Which makes "letting go" of Kenny Wright to free agency all the sweeter.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I think Tryon should get his shot on punt returns, quickness, speed, and a hungry rookie, what else would you want?

And Zorn said today: “Devin Thomas is in the mix…. He’s starting to play faster, and he’s improving himself as we go on.”

Sounds good to me!
Time to crank it up Thomas and Kelly, it's game time!

Posted by: BluCollar Redskin | September 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Cardinals have more loses than anyone in the nfl by over 100 games.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Haha it's funny I like it when people have meltdowns on the blog. Have fun embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Did Red of the DMV just verbally "stole" Skinz in the face?

Posted by: so white. so very white. | September 19, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I think stole is the noun and steal is the verb ... whitey.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Did Red of the DMV just verbally "stole" Skinz in the face?

Posted by: so white. so very white. | September 19, 2008 3:44 PM

Yes didn't you know that everyone is a tough guy on the internet? I personally believe Red he certainly doesn't seem to care what anyone on this blog thinks. That's why he's so calm.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Calmer than you are dude.

Posted by: Walter | September 19, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I am SOOOOO ready for this game. And its going to be 74 degrees and beautiful. A win, plus a crushing by Green Bay over Dallas (who have never won at Lambeau) in the night game would make for SUCH an awesome night's sleep ... almost like it might be OK to face a Monday again.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Dissatisfied with veteran Derrick Frost, the Redskins made the unusual move of drafting a punter...

Uh...not so unusual after all: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=Punters&type=position

That is, unless he meant "unusual only in 2008..."

Posted by: Check Your Facts | September 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Calmer than you are.

Posted by: Walter | September 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

We are leading in the Ryder cup wow. Not much of a golf guy but I love that event. One of the best in sports....well top 10

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who think there is no change from punting in college to the pros obviously haven't stood over a 3 foot putt with their job on the line. Little left to right break, downhill slider...

Posted by: rich20ssu | September 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Calmer than you are.

Posted by: Walter | September 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins made the unusual move of_______.

Posted by: Fill in the Blank | September 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The Bucs cut Dre Moore, a third round pick and put him on the practice squad. If we loose brooks, the world will not stop.

Posted by: rich20ssu | September 19, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes didn't you know that everyone is a tough guy on the internet? I personally believe Red he certainly doesn't seem to care what anyone on this blog thinks. That's why he's so calm.

Posted by: Da Truef | September 19, 2008 3:47 PM

No one was trying to be a tough guy, this clown wants to piss and moan about the content of my post which doesn't concern him in the first place. And for the record, I'm calm as I'm typing this... I never get angry or anything... Actually I'm a carefree dude... Most of the time.

I just hate it when someone tries to be "blog deputy", or gets involved in sh_t that does not concern them at all. Like you appear to be attempting to do, Truef.

And if your post is meant to be funny, it just validates my point about the lame attempts some try to make at humor.

Comedy: It isn't everyones calling.

Posted by: so black, so very black. i don't get 90% of the "humor" on here | September 19, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm still alive...

Posted by: Sean Landetta | September 19, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

BYAAAAAAAAAH!

Posted by: Howard Dean | September 19, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

But I don't even believe in Jebus!

Posted by: Homer Simpson | September 19, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Take your deputy crap elsewhere. You don't regulate a damn thing. If it bothers you that much; SCROLL THE F DOWN! As soon as your virgin eyes read something that compromises your morals; SCROLL THE F DOWN!

It isn't that hard if you put your mind to it, but you'd rather worry about or mind the content of my post.

I recommend you take the rest of eternity off, f you. "


You are right this certainly seems calm. I mean before I read the sig I thought it was written by the Dali Lama himself. If you are gonna blow up on somebody at least cop to it or don't as Chris Larry is fond of saying, "Whateves"

Posted by: Da Truef | September 19, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Why do so many great college punters fail in the NFL? Is the pro ball bigger, or does it weigh more? Or do these kids just choke in the bigtime?

Posted by: Bill | September 19, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Plan B. This was the SECOND ranked punter available this past spring. He tried out for the Patriots, but didn't make the squad. At 6'6" and 190 pounds, maybe he could try to make a tackle if he had to (or at least a rebound under the boards).

http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=74285

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm still alive...

Posted by: Sean Landetta | September 19, 2008 3:58 PM
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ME TOO!

Posted by: Kelly Goodburn | September 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Balls are the same size, only difference is the white strip in NCAA balls.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 19, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I just hope Brooks gets better so we can stop talking about punters!!!

punters drool
fridays rule

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

He's got big balls, and she's got big balls, but we've got the biggest bals of them all!

Posted by: ACDC | September 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey, just wanted to pop in and thank everybody for keepin' it real today.

Posted by: Keepin' it Real Guy | September 19, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Damn, will Czabe EVER let someone finish a sentence before he interrupts them w/his analysis?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The college ball is actually a different shape, which would certainly have some effect on punts. That's no excuse though, he just needs to get his head right and kick the dam ball.

Posted by: BluCollar Redskin | September 19, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

SHEESH! Skins are the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL!

pft power rankings ... what d!cks! We beat the Saints ... and they rank eleven spots higher than the Skins! FOUR 0-2 teams ranked higher than the Skins! [The good news is that pft has Arizona as their lowest ranked 2-0 team]. But still, in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters, the Skins outscored the Giants 7-6 and the Giants are #3!

10. New Orleans Saints (1-1).

11. Buffalo Bills (2-0).

12. Chicago Bears (1-1).

13. Denver Broncos (2-0).

14. San Diego Chargers (0-2).

15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1-1).

16. New York Jets (1-1).

17. Arizona Cardinals (2-0).

18. Jacksonville Jaguars (0-2).

19. Minnesota Vikings (0-2).

20. Cleveland Browns (0-2).

21. Washington Redskins (1-1).

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

just saw that the Saints picked up Joey Harrington to be their 3rd QB....behind Brees and old Mark Brunell....didn't recall seeing any blogging about Brunell's return to DC. and i don't understand why so much is being made of Moss returning a punt. the guy is good at it. Carolina's best WR, Steve Smith does it and relishes doing it. Heck, maybe if Tana' breaks one or two, just him going back there could be an asset if punters squib kick or put the ball out of bounds and it gives us better field position ala Devin Hester in Chicago.

Posted by: Gregskins | September 19, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I can get you a toe

Posted by: Walter | September 19, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I just finished shaving all my body hair...what did I miss?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

TSN:

Kurt Warner goes to Washington. His life story is like a Hemingway novel crossed with a James Stewart underdog film, but Warner has come out firing for big plays with Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, all while protecting the ball and keeping whippersnapper Matt Leinart on the far side of the bench.

The grizzled gunslinger is looking like a two-time MVP again, but then again, many quarterbacks do against San Francisco and Miami. Facing an aggressive Redskins defense on the road is a different story. He is still taking sacks, and eventually one will turn into a game-changing takeaway. Washington Redskins 23, Arizona Cardinals 20.

Posted by: Skinz | September 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I just finished shaving all my body hair...what did I miss?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2008 4:24 PM

That big tuft on your backside.

Posted by: SMACK | September 19, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

scott?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Ron?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I just finished shaving all my body hair...what did I miss? Posted by: Redcoat | September 19, 2008 4:24 PM

i'm not going nowhere near you tonite dude!

but yeah...been away and missed the the fight bm and cp fight...darn! i wish i had heard it live. that would've been fun.

vadude, calm down. you could follow your own advice that you're dishing to skinz by ignoring posts... maybe i'm too old but think about it...there are kids that come on here to read this blog. and yeah the cynical way of seeing this is that they probly have seen, done, read worse than your crap but you might be surprised...

skinz vs. cards: i think skinz lose this one. and we're back to fighting about jc on Monday. ugh! btw heard the vinny show this morning he blamed spurrier for the taylor jacobs pick. LOL!!! but i liked the show though they're filtering the heck out of it.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

help me out here folks ... got some FF things to figure out.

Two slots to fill and here are the candidates.

I got Arnaz Battle of SF, going up against Det ... and you know Martz is wanting to put on a show against them

I got DeAngelo Williams, who gets 1/2 the carries for Carolina going against Minn, who plays the run pretty well

I got Chester Taylor, wondering if AP plays for Minn vs Carolina

I got Fred Jackson, who gets a handful of touches, but they're playing Oakland

I got Devery Henderson playing Denver. Denver's defense?

Also got Darren Sproles, who plays if LT is hurting and LT is hurting, so I'm going with him no matter what.

Thoughts??


Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Al-zeke....IF Chester Taylor and Sproles get injury starts....go with them def!!!!!

Wait until last second to see..

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

EYE of the Tiger baby...Thtt's it...Eye of the Tiger

Posted by: Leevi | September 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Al Zeke, Denver's defense is not so tough ... hence the thousand point game btwn Denver and SD.

DeAngelo Williams is for real, including on the outside, so go there.

Arnaz Battle is still having to play with a fake QB behind a questionable line, but Kitna, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, and Mike Furrey did too ... and Martz still got me fantasy yards off Shaun McDonald. Play Battle.

The others ... I dunno.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

blamed spurrier for the taylor jacobs pick. LOL!!! but i liked the show though they're filtering the heck out of it.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 4:45 PM

It was Spurrier who wanted Jacobs....So he is right about that....At the time it was in the press and well known how excited Steve S. was about getting"his" guy from Florida. So he should Blame Steve.

Posted by: Leevi | September 19, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

skinz vs. cards: i think skinz lose this one.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 4:45 PM

Ya know, you come around here and the end of the day and drop this one ... knowing how peeps love to scrap over this stuff ... so WHAT, pray tell, is the dealer "un-key" to the game that leads to the Skins losing (as opposed to maybe the Cards winning)?

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sproles is in, its the other 2 slots I'm trying to figure out. I'm with you on Chester Taylor. If he starts, he's in. Not sure I'll know that when I need to decide, but thats a different issue.

I'm thinking which of these guys could go big. Battle vs Det seems like a shot worth taking. But do I bench DeAngelo then?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Leevi, hearing it, it seemed like Vinny's primary point on Jacobs (and Wuerfful) was "don't blame me, I just work here!" I'm willing to take that TODAY, but the clock starts ticking NOW, on THIS draft (though admittedly, the results aren't due in until 2010).

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

skinz vs. cards: i think skinz lose this one. and we're back to fighting about jc on Monday. ugh!

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 4:45 PM

I didn't know people were fighting over JC...I am one who was critical of JC and called him a bust....I expressed my opinion andmothers wanted to call me names etc because my opinion was not theirs. But I will add this on JC....having two great drives in one game for a copmeback does not proove anything compared to the other 16 or so games he played bad in....I'm thirlled to see JC look better and get the win...NOW let's see if he can put together 5 games playing like that...then you could indeed debate he is not a bust THUS FAR. I put those two words in caps becuase many seem to ignore that I stated this far he is a bust. Not that he could and will never be good.

Posted by: Leevi | September 19, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

take your butt out

Posted by: | September 19, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

btwn Williams and Battle, I say Williams (just on FF points earned in the past two weeks alone).

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Leevi, hearing it, it seemed like Vinny's primary point on Jacobs (and Wuerfful) was "don't blame me, I just work here!" I'm willing to take that TODAY, but the clock starts ticking NOW, on THIS draft (though admittedly, the results aren't due in until 2010).

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:03 PM

Don't misunderstand DC just stating facts NOT defending him.

Posted by: Leevi | September 19, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Sween, I'm leaning that way. Tough to sit an RB who you know is going to get double digit touches. But the Lions have given up about 11,000 points in two games ... so Battle is gonna get some throws his way.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Leevi, no problem, not calling out YOU ... I was responding the facts as also reported by VC ... I'm just saying myself that, even though Spurrier was the new HC (and granted, you gotta give the HC a bone), Vinny WAS the VP of Player Personnel at the time. So his "those were Spurrier's guys!" line struck me as a little ... unaccountable ... as if he had no participation in the process ... or ear of The Owner. Like I said, I'm willing to give him a bye on that for now.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Al Zeke, I wish I had those types of difficult decisions to make on my FF team. I have some solid players ... who are just sucking this season.

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

sween, i thought i was clear on who i was blaming the loss on? :) i'm predicting that jc will go back 2 steps...and we'll have the whole argument again if he belongs or not...blah blah blah...so i HOPE they win and he plays well just so we don't have that pointless argument again. because if skins keep losing it's not jc or zorn. it's vinny and danny.

but i do want cp to score 4 td's though. that'd be nice. of course win would be the ultimate nice.

diddy, i'm gonna absolutely destroy you this week in FF. give me some competition and bench your bye week players.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

GIANT SHLONG

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

leevi, whatever sween said.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Continuing with the fantasy football advice...throw some at me.

Who would you start - Rothlisberger at Philly, or Campbell vs. the Cards?

Ryan Grant, Ronnie Brown, or Fred Taylor at RB? Grant has been playing with a sore hamdstring, and Brown is behind Ricky Williams. Fred Taylor hasn't done much this year. The other starting RB spot is being occupied by Matt Forte.

Thanks blog peeps

Posted by: swb | September 19, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

leevi, yes, we're on the same page on jc. let's hope he can play but his past record does not indicate that. so my key again and will alwyas be the key to winning is to run run run run run run run run and pass. make him into a ben rothlesbruger...forget the wc system. he will NEVER be a good qb in a wc system. and those two drives he had he was throwing to open receivers...

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

but you know what...if jc is just mistake free...i think they can get to warner...but they need to bench doughty...can't believe he's going to start over a player of the week...what a bad move!

so jc don't need to have a good game he just needs to stay mistake free and the D will score about 2 TD's. but if jc starts turning the ball over then it's over.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

but if jc starts turning the ball over then it's over.

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:24 PM

Over? OVER? Nothing is over until we say it's over. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Bluto | September 19, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Brooks got us that awesome "Roughing the Kicker" penalty ... don't forget that.

Brooks > The corpse of Ray Guy > Frost

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

lol the germans didn't bomb pearl harbor the japanese did!

Posted by: dealer | September 19, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Forget it (dealer), he's rolling.

Posted by: Boone | September 19, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

c'mon dealer. you never saw Animal House?

Posted by: John Belushi | September 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Classic stuff. Was in college when Animal House came out ... and you could pretty much find that person on campus.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

If you look at the way our defense has played over the last six quarters I think there is good reason to be optimistic about containing Arizona's offense.The front 7 can control the ground & intermediate game & the d'backs won't give up the big plays like Miami did last week.

On offense, I think we win time of poss. battle hands down. By the 4th quarter our defense will be much fresher & will harass Warner unmercifully.

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

swb, don't know much about your guys, but Grant seems like he's worth going with. They play Dallas? As long as he's starting.

Doesn't sound like the others could get you a bunch of points. I'd rather take a chance on a guy who can get 15 than a guy who you know is good for 5.

Big Ben vs Philly ... given how Romo worked them, hard not to like Ben. Plus Philly had a short week.

With either QB, I'm thinking you'll be in good shape. Campbell could have a solid game, but we know Philly can give up 40 points.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I think the Germans regret bombing Pearl harbor

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 19, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Brian: "Yeah, uh... about your pamphlet, I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945"

Tour Guide: "Every von vas on vacation!!!"

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I just read the recap of the 1975 Cardinals game that we lost in overtime. Good lord, its more depressing than reading Old Yeller while watching Bambi's mother get shot! We need to kick their azzes just for payback for skins fans back in the day having to suffer through that dismal loss!

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I just read the recap of the 1975 Cardinals game that we lost in overtime. Good lord, its more depressing than reading Old Yeller while watching Bambi's mother get shot! We need to kick their azzes just for payback for skins fans back in the day having to suffer through that dismal loss!

Posted by: will_ga | September 19, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

classic line with the word 'vas'

"He vas my boyfriend"

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I should be able to remember 1975 game, but I don't. I do recall Roger Werhli pulling a pick 6 on Sonny. And back to back kickoff returns for TDs.

Most fond memory might have been the 1984 final game of the season. Monk sets the NFL receptions record and the Skins win to get into the playoffs.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, I started watching football AFTER the Original Joe Gibbs era ended.

That means I've had to sit through the Norv Turner "Draw on 3rd n 15 Experiment", Schottenhiemer "I dont need no stinking offense Experiment", the Spurrier "Theoretical Offense Experiment", and the Gibbs Experiment Remixed, followed shortly and quickly by the Al "700 plays, none that work" Saunders Experiment without so much as a Superbowl appearance to lighten my load.

Let my people go, Danny!

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 19, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

the whole game revolves around our ability to ratle warner....

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

This game really revolves around our ability to score more points than the Cardinals.

Posted by: Joe Theisman | September 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

But still, in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters, the Skins outscored the Giants 7-6

Posted by: xxxxxx | September 19, 2008 4:18 PM


Is that how that works? Sweet! There I thought no only had we lost, but we'd been dramatically outplayed. Of course, I was on the 40 yardline so I may have missed things on instant replay...

Posted by: government bailout | September 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

This game really revolves around our ability to score more points than the Cardinals.

Posted by: Joe Theisman | September 19, 2008 6:35 PM

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Maybe you can weigh in on our punting predicament, Joe.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 19, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The Keating Five were not a singing group ya know.

Posted by: Fineline | September 19, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

For those that share my mild obsession with the lovely Kelli Johnson, Cooley has a video interview with her on his blog:

http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 19, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

By the way, curious that JLC was absent from the media schlub love fest on the link...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 19, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know why they can't just use their kick returning to return punts? Is there some critical difference that requires different people to do both? It's just a football kicked in the air that they have to catch and then run with, for crissakes.

Posted by: Tom | September 19, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Back in the box, Tom.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 19, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

On Sunday's game,Skins get 3 to's and win 27-19 last turnover comming in fourth qtr.to thwart ZONA'S last gasp.Jason throws for 300 and 2td's Portis and Betts combine for 150, SO THERE!! ALL YOU DOUBTER'S

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | September 19, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

For those that share my mild obsession with the lovely Kelli Johnson ...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 19, 2008 7:25 PM

OK, this is a new concept to me. 'mild obssession'

help me out here. does that mean you only stalk her websites?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 19, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know why they can't just use their kick returning to return punts? Is there some critical difference that requires different people to do both? It's just a football kicked in the air that they have to catch and then run with, for crissakes.

Posted by: Tom | September 19, 2008 7:38 PM

There are considerable differences. That's not to say that the same guy can't do both, because some do excel at both.

On kick returns, receiver has 20 yards of separation to get started. So a bobble is not the end of the world. On punts, good hands is much more important, because a defender can be one second from smacking you.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 19, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The one thing that does seem clear to me is that the Skins must be feeling more confident in their depth behind Kendall because Kendall has been pulling ALOT more than he did last year. Seems like they are playing Kendall way harder than I remember before. In one of the preseason games, he pulled wide right to block for Portis out near the far right sideline ... for a gain of something like 8-9 yards. I remember thinking "great play, but what are they THINKING about putting him in that situation with HIS knees?!?!"

Posted by: dcsween | September 19, 2008 3:15 PM

Sween, I remember this play. I had the same reaction. You may be right about Jansen at guard, but it would be tough for him to go against 320-360 pounders inside.

Posted by: M | September 19, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Actually, her Church feels that any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God. All Christians believe this...including your man, Obama, if he is truly a Christian. True Christians believe that the only way to eternal life is through Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 12:40 PM

When did Jesus say that God will literally kill all non-believers? Please pass on the quote from the NT and I will agree with you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 12:46 PM

John 14:6 - Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to the Father except through me."

Rom 10:9-10 - if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.


Posted by: Karen | September 19, 2008 1:19 PM

Karen, you were responding to my challenge to Anonymous to post a quote from the NT that proved his claim that "... any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God. All Christians believe this..." That is why I asked for a quote where JESUS said that GOD WOULD LITERALLY KILL NON-BELIEVERS. The quotes you posted do not say that. No where does Jesus say God will kill non-believers, that is, come down and smite them, where they once were living and breathing human beings, but God came down and killed them. That is very different than quotes where Jesus and others say he is the only Savior, which I agree most Christians believe and must believe. That is fine. My point is that so-called Christians who claim that Israelis are dying in Palestinian attacks because of their non-belief are not backed up by anything in the NT; nor is it accurate at all to say what Anonymous said above -- that all Christians believe "that any non-Christian should convert or die at the hands of God." Anyone who believes that non-Christians should convert or die at the hands of God, therefore, is not a true Christian.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:03 PM

Anonymous No. 2, I agree with you that "christians" who claim that Israelis are dying in Palestinian attacks because of their non-belief are not backed up by anything in the NT. But the New Testament does talk about death. For example, Romans 6:23 says "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." We are all born non-Christians with a free choice. But we are also born with sinful nature and the consequence of sin is death (which explains 100% mortality rate). Before sin entered the world there was no death. Jesus is the only one, who was in human body, but without sin. He died not for His sins (for he had none), but for our sins in our place. He also rose to life. Christians believe that Jesus is the only way to eternal life and those who believe in him would also rise through Christ to life after death. And not because of their own good deeds, but because of what Christ did on the cross. Karen quoted the passages from the Bible that speak to this point. If you are interested in God's judgment, there's a lot in the New Testament (and even more in the Old Testament), you can read through all four gospels, Acts, Romans, 2 Timothy, Heberews and Revelation. God is not the hater of mankind that tries to trap and kill humans (this title belongs to someone else who was the murderer and lier from the begining - John 8:44), but God is just and will judge the world (both Christians and non-Christians).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Matt. 22:35

One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38 “This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 “The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ 40 “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

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John 3:14 “As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 “For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18 “He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 “This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 “For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

anyone know where i can score a cheap, hot, freaky prostitute?

Posted by: cc | September 19, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Where is nads in the pdx? he does not post anymore.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey dcsween, maybe somebody already mentioned it in a post, but Elton Brown is not their starting tackle, he is a backup guard. Levi brown, from penn st, is the starting tackle. Go skins!

Posted by: MikeW | September 19, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

wonder how JLC feels gettin punked everyday on TV by that clown LARry MIchAelS? he is a jackass, but can't be good gettin called out everyday on TV

Posted by: Vjcf | September 19, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

the "chris larry michaels" joke is beyond lame

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 19, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

SKIPPY EXPLAINS THE FINANCIAL CHRISTMAS

Hi My name is Skippy and I have a mental Plate in my head. I live in a doublewide with Mama and my dead sister’s twins, just down the row from Floyd the Truck Drivin’ Man and His Peterbilt. Check that, hFloyd’s Peterbilt was just repossessed. I really ,really like Lemon Meringue Pie.

As some of you few may have learnt this weak, the chief Bozo of the Newnited States has driven the schoolbus off the financial clift, and we are all going to lose our money.

Before Skippy had to have his elective surgery to have the plate insinuated in his dome, he used to be a Economicist, whose job it was to take from the Poor and give to me.

The trouble is the entire system is based on Trickle Dumb Economics, and you get about what you might expectorate with a philosophy designed after some guy pissing his pants following an all night bender.

In addition to the trillion dollar Bailup, which comes with a leaky old bucket and a broom handle to stick up the consumer’s fundament, there is a new plan to prevent selling your shorts.

Selling your shorts is why the muss starting in the first behalf, some argue. It works like this. First you bet stocks which you don’t have and you didn’t buy that they go into the crapper. If they go into the crapper, then you can sell the stocks you don’t have at a profit. If the economy goes up, you go down, which is fun in bed but not in the stark mock it.

Personally Skippy has all his fuchias in Lemon Meringue Pies, so he’s set for the near to distance time.

Skippy advice to you? BuilD a Time Machine, go back and SELL!!!

Fondly,

Skippy


Posted by: Skippy | September 19, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Skippy sounds like the Don Beyer Volvo pitchman.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Boner

Posted by: | September 20, 2008 3:32 AM | Report abuse

Anyone ever rub one out to the 'SKins cheerleader pics on the interweb?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

I love rubbing one out to Kelly Johnson

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:34 AM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell Randle El that his average would be fine if he just ran toward the other goal poast as Mike Nealms did as a Redskin returner. Randle often runs backwards or sideways across the field. With the speed of todays NFL it is no longer a cutback league. /RA

Posted by: Rick | September 20, 2008 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Why don't they let Devin Thomas return punts he did it in college, and was pretty good at it 29.1 avg. Give the rookie to succed at something in the NFL, and preserve our Vets.

Posted by: C-DOG | September 20, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Vinny is looking for a sidekick I think he wants OG Barno to be his "Robin"

Posted by: Silky Anaconda | September 20, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

i am fairly certain that no one has ever averaged 29 yards on punt returns in the history of football. thomas did kick returns at mich st.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Antonio Pierce would have, if he'd only stayed. Of course, if some guy in college did average 29 yards, the FO wouldn't draft him, because they would have traded away the pick. Maybe under a new political administration, 29 yard punt returns will become the norm. As long as Jesus doesn't stand in the way.

Posted by: SMACK | September 20, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Hey kids, I had a big beef dinner last night and some Kashi cereal this morning for breakfast. Should be more cookies today than I'll know what to do with. Come on over; if you want anything other than hot tea to go with them, you'll have to bring it yourself. Kisses,

Dick Cheney

Posted by: Dick Cheney | September 20, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

mightycrows wrote:
Palin/McCain 081 (in that order according to Sarah.)

Four years of McCain!
Or is it three?
Or two?
Anyone for 6 months?

Going once, going twice... sold to the bespectacled lady in the dark suit.
Congratulations ma'am you are now the owner of a beautiful country. Will you move down here?
9/20/2008 11:55:44 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

To the Anon above: I'm not one of those Christians who happens to believe as a general rule that God specifically strikes down people (on earth) because they don't believe. The striking down happens during/after natural death due to them being unsaved. For some people, God may strike them down while they're on earth, but there is no way a Christian can use that as an excuse for standing by and doing nothing while any kind of genocide is happening. Again, God does "kill" these people essentially by sending them to hell, but that doesn't necessarily mean he specifically sends down lightning or war or anything else to kill them while they're on earth. So I guess I misunderstood, and we therefore mostly agree.

To add a piece of Redskins stuff in this: What are we going to do for Rabach's replacement? I'm watching the Arkansas/Alabama game and Jonathan Luigs, the center for the razorbacks, got the best center in college football award last year, and a senior. So I expect him to make himself eligible this year. I don't know how high centers go vs. other positions on the line, but if he's available and has a decent year this year, we ought'a draft him.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Flying Spaghetti Monster forever!

And we Pastafarians hope you all had a very merry Talk Like a Pirate Day yesterday.

Remember--we've got the heaven with the beer volcanoes and the stripper factory. Accept no substitutes.

Ramen

Posted by: farstriker | September 20, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Karen,
You happen to be the worst participant on this blog. Whether its your useless discussion of politics. Waste of time on unusual disease. Or religious rants. I hate you.

Posted by: Sports fan | September 20, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Sports fan - fine with me. How I'm any worse than those that continuously rant about the election is beyond me. Especially considering that I offer information on those other topics when requested of me (i.e. the disease/school stuff when being asked to prove that I'm not someone else on the blog, and the religious stuff when people ask questions about Christianity). I think I've made about two posts about politics, again when people have asked my opinion. Either way, deal with it sports fan, because I'm staying.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"How I'm any worse than those that continuously rant about the election is beyond me."

Your not. All of you are idiots.

Posted by: Sports fan | September 20, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

That's how you spur conversation, you call everyone idiots. lol.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

No Karen, its just irritating. This blog use to be fun, light and pointless. A place to escape all the serious issues. And now its pervaded by people like you. And you say you only provide the info when asked. Huh, its a blog, who would ask anything of you unless you present some initial info. You suck, and so do all the people that come in here with there ARROGANT strong views of politics and religion. Clearly, our world is made up of many people with many interests. Trying to bring that born again crap is just horrible. Go some place else its not wanted. Have opinions about the Skins? Great. Otherwise no one likes you.

Posted by: Sports Fan | September 20, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Where all dem latina hoes at?

Posted by: cc | September 20, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Either way, deal with it sports fan, because I'm staying.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 2:39 PM

Good for you! There are rude people all over the world and unfortunately some of them find there way here. Just rise above the hate and blog your heart out.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Good for you! There are rude people all over the world and unfortunately some of them find there way here. Just rise above the hate and blog your heart out.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:07 PM

Yes rude. But at least not offensive. Pushing religious beliefs on people who have a different view and telling them that some God will kill them is real neighborly. You both need to recognize...

Posted by: Silent Majority | September 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

This blog use to be fun, light and pointless. A place to escape all the serious issues. And now its pervaded by people like you.

Posted by: Sports Fan | September 20, 2008 3:02 PM

Agreed. However, this rant should be pointed at you.

The real problem with the blog as of late is the fact that registration is gone. Now it's a bunch of @ss clowns who have license to rant about crap like you're talking about without having to own up to it because they're anonymous. Want the blog to be better? Get registration back so that folks who have a regular handle and know how to have a conversation and/or spirited debate about the Redskins (or other assorted jibba-jabba) without all the side show B.S. can chat like adults.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Suck it brownwood26

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Suck it brownwood26

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:15 PM

Exhibit A, Your Honor...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The following topics don't belong on a Redskins blog:

1)Anything positive about the Dallas Cowboys

2)Politics

3)Religion

These topics never end well.

Posted by: Just sayin' | September 20, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Brownwood26, could not resist. Tell ya what, post your email address. Then you and I can exchange phone numbers, and if we live near each other, we can meet and talk it out.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

take your butt out

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Brownwood26, could not resist. Tell ya what, post your email address. Then you and I can exchange phone numbers, and if we live near each other, we can meet and talk it out.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:21 PM

I AM posting my email address, every time I make a comment. I've posted it here before: brownwood26@yahoo.com. Every other Anon that's tryed to call me out has failed to respond. Are you any different?

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh, we all knew the @yahoo.com part. Coming at ya...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree that the blog has been inundated with topics unrelated to the redskins and that there are far better forums for discussing other topics than here.

I would suggest if you want to discuss politics, religion or other incendiary topics with people on this blog, find an appropriate blog and then post the address here and invite people to join you there. Then when you are done, come back here and blog your guts out about the skins.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Hello from Istanbul! I don't think I'll get to see the game Sunday, so good luck to all the boys

and HTTR!

Posted by: redskirt | September 20, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

PFT fantasy rankings for this week:

CP-12th running back
JC- 13th QB
SM-14th wide rec.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

will_ga,

I don't necessarily mind when the topic strays to other things; it's just that those other things should have NOTHING to do with politics or religion. Most people have strong feelings about one or both topics and it's usually volatile.

Music, entertainment--those things aren't too far departed from NFL football in the grand scheme of things and most folks aren't going to be offended by others different views of those subjects.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

PFT card's players

Kurt Warner-5th QB
Edge J.- 19th rb
boldin-4th wide rec
larry fitz-10th wide rec

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

PFT fantasy rankings for this week:

CP-12th running back
JC- 13th QB
SM-14th wide rec.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM

I hope they play better than that; I've got CP and Santana on my fantasy team and I need them to do well. But I'm torn because I have Boldin too. Hopefully he'll do the same thing Brees did for me last week--give me about 10 points and lose!

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that believes in some magical higher power needs to have their head examined.

These same people believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny too right? Oh they don't?

Posted by: | September 20, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 20, 2008 3:38 PM

Agreed, political & religious discussions usually lead to anger and hateful comments. I'd prefer to hate on the cowboys not each other here.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

anyone else wonder why no new info from Cindy or JLa? It's been a long dry spell

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

can we talk about hookers?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of hate; I do have a lot of hate for Bobby Petrino for wussing out on the falcons last year. I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed watching the Tide crush Arkansas earlier today.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

It's been a long dry spell

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 3:55 PM

################

That's why you use lubrication, to combat those dry spells.

Posted by: | September 20, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't drink the Kool-Aid - whether it be religion or from Larry Michael.

Einstein 3:16 - "E=mc2"

Posted by: WhinersRUs | September 20, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I'd love to tell my tale of my favorite game at FedEx again, but I'm sure it'd just get taken down again.

Posted by: Cool Guy | September 20, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

As the national anthem plays in the background, Howard approaches a camera and says: "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on right now. I don't even celebrate that (expletive). I'm black."

No here's an athlete I hope my kids emulate! (not on your life)
If he has any american endorsements, I hope they pull them and quit paying him. Maybe Al Qaeda would like him to be their sponsor? What an insensitive moron.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think Mark Cuban is making a mistake by supporting Josh Howard over & over again after all his idiotic acts. He should try and trade him to a European team for some wine & cheese.

Posted by: will_ga | September 20, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

As the national anthem plays in the background, Howard approaches a camera and says: "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on right now. I don't even celebrate that (expletive). I'm black."

No here's an athlete I hope my kids emulate! (not on your life)
If he has any american endorsements, I hope they pull them and quit paying him. Maybe Al Qaeda would like him to be their sponsor? What an insensitive moron.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 4:05 PM

================

SHUT UP.

America, if anything, represents his right to free speech.

Stop getting your lacey panties in a bunch.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

That anyone could believe the human animal was designed by a divine being defies all logic. The average human is little more than an ambitious monkey. He is moronic, self-centered, cowardly, bullied by his fellows, terrified that others will see him for what he is. One can only assume his creator was in something of a hurry, or was perhaps a member of an Olympian bureaucracy. The more pious among us should pray that next time he does the job right. But we might in justice concede that there is one virtue to be found in the beast: he is persistent.

Gregory MacAllister

Posted by: mcdevitt | September 20, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

As another black male living in this county, i don't support the star spangled bangle either. It's technically racist, right? The new American Anthem should be "On Our Own" by Bobby Brown. The King of R&B.... or ribs and bbq... rocks and blunts....

Posted by: adam goes blackface | September 20, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Faith has its price. When misfortune strikes the true believer, he assumes he has done something to deserve punishment, but isn't quite certain what. The realist, recognizing that he lives in a Darwinian universe, is simply grateful to have made it to another sunset.

Gregory MacAllister

Posted by: mcdevitt | September 20, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Take it easy people! At this rate we'll be out of Winkies by sundown.

Posted by: The Winking Brown Eye Awards | September 20, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Few of the virtues are really useful. Fidelity leads to lost opportunity, truth-telling to injured feelings, charity to additional solicitations. The least productive, and possibly the most overrated, is faith. The faithful deny reason, close their minds to the evidence of their senses, and remain unfailingly optimistic in the face of disaster. They inevitably get just what they deserve.

Gregory MacAllister

Posted by: mcdevitt | September 20, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

How come when an athlete or movie star doesnt win a game or win an award, how come they still don't thank god or point to the heavens? Or how come they don't blame the devil?

When they lose does that mean God loved the other team more that day?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I think the approach to this game is simple...if we don't get any pressure on Warner, we will lose. Also, we need to score some points.

Geto Boys- "Mind Playin' Tricks On Me"

Posted by: sicwidit | September 20, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

As another black male living in this county, i don't support the star spangled bangle either. It's technically racist, right? The new American Anthem should be "On Our Own" by Bobby Brown. The King of R&B.... or ribs and bbq... rocks and blunts....

Posted by: adam goes blackface | September 20, 2008 4:40 PM
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Isn't it ironic that you are free enough to have an education about this countries foundation, free to form your own opinion about it, and free to express your opinion about it, and you use your freedom to curse the start of the journey that led to that freedom.

I find it especially ironic because you should know that the Americas were colonies under British rule when the Triangle Trade started. You should know that the flags waving over the ships that brought slaves from Africa to America were Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and English. You should know that your fellow Africans handed your forefathers over for money. You should know that slavery was a global issue not specific to America, with Africans exported as far east as India.

And yet the Star Spangled Banner was uniquely racist.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

How come when an athlete or movie star doesnt win a game or win an award, how come they still don't thank god or point to the heavens? Or how come they don't blame the devil?

When they lose does that mean God loved the other team more that day?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 5:07 PM

Actually you usually see members from both teams gather for a prayer ring after games. They just don't show it on TV. As for the actors, who knows.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Faith has its price. When misfortune strikes the true believer, he assumes he has done something to deserve punishment, but isn't quite certain what.

Gregory MacAllister

Posted by: mcdevitt | September 20, 2008 4:46 PM

Wow, what a huge load of crap. The true believer does not assume he has done something to deserve it.. what a joke.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

The faithful deny reason, close their minds to the evidence of their senses, and remain unfailingly optimistic in the face of disaster. They inevitably get just what they deserve.

Gregory MacAllister

Posted by: mcdevitt | September 20, 2008 4:51 PM

Remaining optimistic in the face of disaster sounds horrible.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

For all you Darwinists out there, why do we have faith?

For example, why does King Card have faith that the Cardinals will win tomorrow? What evolutionary advantage does that give him? Does the inevitable derision make him stronger?

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, great day to finally get power back. I come to RI and find all this crap, and I swore I wouldn't get involved in these types of discussions again, yet... Anyways, GO SKINS!!!

HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Resistance is futile, scampbell. Besides it hones your debate skills.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

We have faith because to believe that we have no purpose in living, and no reason to exist (evolution is not a reason to exist) goes against every fiber of our being. If you want to know more, read the awesome book "Mere Christianity."

Thank you scampbell, I was going to say the same thing to mcdevitt, but thought better of it.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

If you don't like living in this country get the f*&k out. You are free to do so and I know you will find life much less enjoyable.

Only in America can an as*hole like Josh Howard be a millionnaire.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

To start a 'skins convo: I assume some of you people are watching college football. Do any of you see any college players that would fill the needs of our beloved 'skins? Truth, I love ya, but please only mention ligit Georgia players (TY).

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Resistance is futile, scampbell. Besides it hones your debate skills.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:21 PM


True but I come here to debate football. Such as, we better contain Warner and get some heavy bodies on that Arizona D-line. They are a little overlooked. Warner has some good receivers out there. 55 and 99 better be on their game.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

To start a 'skins convo: I assume some of you people are watching college football. Do any of you see any college players that would fill the needs of our beloved 'skins? Truth, I love ya, but please only mention ligit Georgia players (TY).

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 6:26 PM

I hate Ohio State but that Laurinitus is one good linebacker. As far as O line and D line (which in my opinion these are the 3 positions we should focus on in the coming draft, I would put CB a close 4th) I haven't seen anyone that I'm overly impressed with yet.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 20, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I havent seen some of the top talents play, but we need to spend a 1st rounder on a road grading O-lineman, and then a 2nd rounder on a beefy DT, and then try and pick up a serviceable DE that has some upside late.

We just need a couple of solid drafts (not even spectacular), and we need to stop guaranteeing money to Portis and Samuels and Jansen as they reach the summit of their careers.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

With the dispersion of talent to the smaller schools, O-linemen are even harder to spot. Used to be you could just throw a dart at Michigans starting front 5 and build around the one you hit, but those days are over.

I think we dont necessarily need to focus on one position per se, because I think we should always strive for best available player. That said, we need to have a couple of solid depth drafts - they dont even have to be spectacular. But we have to start getting bodies to press the starters like Heyer did Jansen.

And on that subject, we need to stop guaranteeing money to these veterans that are looking at the precipice of their careers, notably Samuels, Jansen, and Portis.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Huh. I thought my last post was lost, sorry it appears I wrote most of the same things twice.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Man, no posts really? we are 1 game away.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

SHUT UP.

America, if anything, represents his right to free speech.

Stop getting your lacey panties in a bunch.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 4:36 PM

If you could read, you'd know I didn't write it wasn't his, RIGHT to say those asinine things, but it should carry consequnces. Go back under your hold anon.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I find it especially ironic because you should know that the Americas were colonies under British rule when the Triangle Trade started. You should know that the flags waving over the ships that brought slaves from Africa to America were Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and English. You should know that your fellow Africans handed your forefathers over for money. You should know that slavery was a global issue not specific to America, with Africans exported as far east as India.

And yet the Star Spangled Banner was uniquely racist.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld

careful matt,
this blog doesn't like factual statements, that are empirically accurate. No, the blithering idiocy on this blog is so humorous, it makes me come back, again, and again.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Ewww, looks like we need a refresher course in our blog shorthand table.

Blog shorthand table, 2008 edition
==========================

There’s been considerable redundancy recently. The following table is meant to address this problem by conserving valuable photons. Instead of typing out a long stream of familiar argument/rant, please use the following codes:

RI-1. Snyder sucks

RI-2. Vinny sucks

RI-3. They both suck

RI-4. The whole FO sucks

RI-5. St. Joe failed [retired]

RI-6. Zorn will fail

RI-7. The coach after Zorn will fail

RI-8. Team will suck as long as Snyder owns them

RI-9. Poor draft

RI-10. Huge OL problems

RI-11. Jason Campbell sucks

RI-12. RI sucks

RI-13. JLC sucks

RI-14. Most RI bloggers suck

RI-15. The Kool-aid drinkers suck

RI-16. Registration sucks

RI-17. The haters suck

RI-18. Anon bloggers suck

RI-19. Blogging about religion and politics sucks.

RI-20. Screw you and burn in hell.

RI-21. Lack of registration sucks

RI-22. The whole thing is a SJKing shabingus

RI-23. Shut up.

RI-24. No, you shut up.

RI-25. I spend too much time on RI stuff

RI-26. F chRIs Larry

RI-36.9(AA) Get back to proctoring SOLs, Dorf!

Posted by: farstriker | September 20, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

You folks have a real downer for a blog today. How's about talking Redskins-Cardinals since this is a FOOTBALL BLOG!!!!!

Cardinals 37-Redskins 14!!!

Posted by: King Card | September 20, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19 RI-19

Posted by: Redskins Fan | September 20, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I find it especially ironic because you should know that the Americas were colonies under British rule when the Triangle Trade started. You should know that the flags waving over the ships that brought slaves from Africa to America were Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and English. You should know that your fellow Africans handed your forefathers over for money. You should know that slavery was a global issue not specific to America, with Africans exported as far east as India.

And yet the Star Spangled Banner was uniquely racist.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld

careful matt,
this blog doesn't like factual statements, that are empirically accurate. No, the blithering idiocy on this blog is so humorous, it makes me come back, again, and again.


Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 6:50 PM

You just endorsed blithering idiocy.

Posted by: LH | September 20, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll scream for Danny's head (like I don't already with respect to how he runs this franchise), if we lose that badly to the cardnals. By the way King, you haven't beat any of your opponents this year that badly, and you've played the two worst teams in the league.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, let me correct that. Two of the three worst teams in the league.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

You just endorsed blithering idiocy.

Posted by: LH | September 20, 2008 7:02 PM

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Did you call your history teacher a blithering idiot too? Tell me which part of it was incorrect or unfounded on facts.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

we need a beep beep so I dont have to keep scrolling down all this way.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I never questioned the historical accuracy of what you said. People can spew facts and still sound idiotic. You responded to someone's silly post about the "Star Spangled Banner" with the "They did it toooo" (in a little kid's voice) defense regarding slavery when slavery was never mentioned in the post to which you were responding.

Posted by: LH | September 20, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking the C for the Arkansas Razorbacks could be good if he falls to us. I think we're almost there with the other positions on the OL (i.e. good young players who will develop into good starters), but we don't have a center. Of course, once the younger players displace the ancient starters, we'll need to have backups for them, which means we'll need to draft/"undraft" (i.e. undrafted free agents) an entire line or so within the three years or so. I think this guy could be our next C unless he goes higher in the draft.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I called my history teacher an idiot. Then again i had a GPA over 4.0 in history for most of high school, doing extra credit assignments and stuff, till I stopped trying then it dropped down to a modest A average.

Yes you are correct in terms of the supply side who brought slaves over, but the question is, would that supply have come with no demand. Basic principles of capitalism says no. Much like with those who give gun's to drug cartels, both the buyers and sellers are equally guilty of different crimes.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Also I am not a fan of the "Star Spangled Banner" and would rather "America the Beautiful" be the national anthem, its a much lovelier song.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, no action from Cindy or Jasno today at all?

I certainly hope there is no over confidence in tomorrow's game. There is no reason whatsoever for Skins to feel this is a win.
We must play well.
Intense pass rush of utmost importance.
Running game to keep the AZ offense off of the field.
And finally: Red Zone execution.

Hail, everyone!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

FFO'DC!

Red, I think that they need to have some confidence in themselves but there is a fine line between overconfident and confidant. They should win this if they can play a solid game. Everyone gives 100% no reason we should lose.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I still think Josh Howard should lose any endorsement deals he has with American companies, and try to get deals with those who share his warped view of America. Perhaps Iran, Al Qaeda, any radical Muslim group, etc..

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

To compare his problems with the country to those who would commit violent acts against the US, that is part of the problem with this country right now and in part the cause of so much of the hate against us. Some people are so warped they only see in black and white.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

When will everyone realize that all of us hate some part of america, even the flag waving right wingers hate the liberal hippie types, the fact that bother are =ly american and part of the United States. To hate one or the other is to hate part of america.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I never questioned the historical accuracy of what you said. People can spew facts and still sound idiotic. You responded to someone's silly post about the "Star Spangled Banner" with the "They did it toooo" (in a little kid's voice) defense regarding slavery when slavery was never mentioned in the post to which you were responding.

Posted by: LH | September 20, 2008 7:22 PM

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Slavery was never mentioned, eh? So when African Americans talk about racism in America, they dont have any hard feelings about the 300 years of slavery, huh?

Now whose the blithering idiot?


Yes you are correct in terms of the supply side who brought slaves over, but the question is, would that supply have come with no demand. Basic principles of capitalism says no. Much like with those who give gun's to drug cartels, both the buyers and sellers are equally guilty of different crimes.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 7:27 PM

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Thats my point. If Europe did not demand slave produced product, slaves would not have been imported to any of the colonies through out the Americas.

I'm saying pointing at America and saying our forefathers are solely responsible for slavery is clearly a misinformed outlook. Which is what you are doing if you say the
"Star Spangled Banner" is a racist hymn.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 20, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

To compare his problems with the country....

what, like earning millions playing a playground game? Get over yourself Alex. His stance against the National Anthem, during these times is insensitive at best.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

maybe the african tribes that were responsible for rounding up the slaves and selling them to ALL buyers, should be doling out reparations?

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The tune to the song was stolen from a common bar song at the time though. I don't condone theft.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I still think Josh Howard should lose any endorsement deals he has with American companies, and try to get deals with those who share his warped view of America. Perhaps Iran, Al Qaeda, any radical Muslim group, etc..

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 7:43 PM

Is it your opinion that his view of America is warped because his view is not identical to yours? Do you know him well enough to make that statement or are you talking out of your hate? (You do seem to be one of the most negative posters on here.)

Your ignorance shows in your last sentence. You are part of the American problem.

Posted by: ignorance_are_us | September 20, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

When will everyone realize that all of us hate some part of america, even the flag waving right wingers hate the liberal hippie types, the fact that bother are =ly american and part of the United States. To hate one or the other is to hate part of america.

Posted by: Alex35332

Now I understand, you have lots of hate. I don't hate other Americans for differing views.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

... an unsingable bar song...

as for theft, they couldn't give it away.

Posted by: cload & daggar | September 20, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Money does not cover the scars of history. It would be nice if it did. How many people do you know that have died, that you would not give away a fortune to have back?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Please reconcile:

Now I understand, you have lots of hate. I don't hate other Americans for differing views.
Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:13 PM

and:
I still think Josh Howard should lose any endorsement deals he has with American companies, and try to get deals with those who share his warped view of America. Perhaps Iran, Al Qaeda, any radical Muslim group, etc..

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 7:43 PM

And sure I have hate all people have some, but I don't go aground condemning people as un-American.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

How many people do you know that have died, that you would not give away a fortune to have back?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:17 PM

Fannie Mae? Freddie Mac?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Is it your opinion that his view of America is warped because his view is not identical to yours? Do you know him well enough to make that statement or are you talking out of your hate? (You do seem to be one of the most negative posters on here.)

Your ignorance shows in your last sentence. You are part of the American problem.

Posted by: ignorance_are_us

Let's see:

Ignorance are us?

His view is warped as he doesn't understand what a fantastic opportunity he has here. This isn't the first time he has been in hot water since being with the Mavs. He needs to grow up. He has the right to say most anything, but i think all rationale people would agree that all actions have consequences.
Do you know me well enough to say i hate? Or to say I'm particularly negative? No you don't.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Oops. Excuse me. I was looking for "Redskins Insider," the place where Redskins fans exchange views. I must be in the wrong place.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 20, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

The second Lincoln-Douglas right here... who knew?

Posted by: cload & daggar | September 20, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

And sure I have hate all people have some, but I don't go aground condemning people as un-American.

Posted by: Alex35332

I wouoldn't think I'd have to, but here goes. I don't hate him for using his right of free speech, I do think it shouldn't be free of consequnces. Hate is not in there anywhere. I also didn't say he was un-American, just mainly idiotic, and insensitive.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Oops. Excuse me. I was looking for "Redskins Insider," the place where Redskins fans exchange views. I must be in the wrong place.

Posted by: talent evaluator

I wish we'd get something from Cindy or Jla......

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Let's see:

Ignorance are us?

His view is warped as he doesn't understand what a fantastic opportunity he has here. This isn't the first time he has been in hot water since being with the Mavs. He needs to grow up. He has the right to say most anything, but i think all rationale people would agree that all actions have consequences.
Do you know me well enough to say i hate? Or to say I'm particularly negative? No you don't.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:20 PM

Your statement read as someone who has hate. Josh Howard says and does some dumb things. I agree, he should grow up. But it is his right to say them.

I do not know you well enough to say that you hate, but I have read enough posts from longsufferingskinsfan to know that that poster is negative.

Posted by: ignorance_are_us | September 20, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Hi TE,

This place has gone to everything except 'skins recently, even after I stop talking about everything else, but feel free to post about the 'skins, lol.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Well I will tell you what, if you feel strongly about it, go out and find out who his sponsors are, write them and tell them you will boycot them if they don't drop sponsorship.

i am not going to because honestly of all the stupid thinks that stupid people say and do out there this is closer to the bottom.

Coming on a Skins blog to talk about what some shlub from Dallas did was not the best course of your action.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

This is RI, but we're exchanging views on everything but the 'skins.

Could we have JLa say something anti-FO just so we can start arguing over that again? Please. It's better than this.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

this is by far the most weird thread i've ever scanned over..."wow just wow!" so let me add to it...

any med students/doctors in the house? got a question for you...

where does the ureter connect with the bladder?

A. to the top of the bladder
B. to the middle of the bladder
C. towards the bottom of the bladder

btw...googling won't help. i've already exhuasted that search and have gotten multiple diagrams suggesting multiple positions...

Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse


This is RI, but we're exchanging views on everything but the 'skins.

Could we have JLa say something anti-FO just so we can start arguing over that again? Please. It's better than this.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 8:30 PM

right on to that.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Dealer did you try Web MD?

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I am laughing reading the RI tonight.

There has been quite the free exchange of views regarding Josh Howard, the National Anthem, Slavery in US History.

And earlier tonight I was reading where some were quite upset w/ posts regarding religion.

Conclusion:
It would be fair to conclude based upon the statements in posts today:'

1- Most hear would rather simply discuss our 'Skins.

2- Some are quite upset when others express differing political views.

3- But it is the religious differences that bring out the most venom.

Wonder why that is?

Jasno, how about an update?

HTTR!

Posted by: RedskilnRay1 | September 20, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

This is RI, but we're exchanging views on everything but the 'skins.

Could we have JLa say something anti-FO just so we can start arguing over that again? Please. It's better than this.

Posted by: Karen | September 20, 2008 8:30 PM

Totally agree with you Karen, however, you added fuel to the fire yesterday and today. What needs to happen is that most non-redskins and all political and religious posts need to be ignored so that they die out.

Posted by: Redskins Fan | September 20, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Coming on a Skins blog to talk about what some shlub from Dallas did was not the best course of your action.

Posted by: Alex35332 |

and when did I need to consult you on what my course of action should be?

ignorance are us, you, are the negative one here tonight! I don't need you telling me how to phrase my posts either.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

and when did I need to consult you on what my course of action should be?


Well usually if I see someone driving off a cliff I tell them they should turn around too.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

ignorance are us, you, are the negative one here tonight! I don't need you telling me how to phrase my posts either.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:34 PM

Ouch! I think I hit a nerve. Now you sound defensive.

Posted by: ignorance_are_us | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Well usually if I see someone driving off a cliff I tell them they should turn around too.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM

Funny!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Ignorance_are_us, if he is sounding defensive shouldn't you change your name to defensive_are_us
:)

My buddy from philly said I should let my cat out to catch a cardinal for good luck tomorrow.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Ouch! I think I hit a nerve. Now you sound defensive.

Posted by: ignorance

no, just bored, and you are so easy, alex too. btw, maybe driving over the cliff was the point?

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2008 8:38 PM

Loved the t-shirt: GILF

Posted by: Redskins Fan | September 20, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

when are the hogettes going to just stop! I love the Skins, but have had enough of those old men dressing like women, with pig noses. aren't they the dirtbags now anyway?

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Yes, what was funny twenty years ago is old hat today. The hogettes need to go...

HTTR!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

alex, yes i have been practically living on webmd for the past 2 weeks.

Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

We truly need more attractive governors I mean seriously here is all of them. For the most part an unattractive bunch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_Governors

But hey you get in politics to get attractive staffers not attractive leaders/

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

i read warner has rejuvenated his career. i think it would be easy with Q and Fitz, with edge still doing his thing too. Smoot doesn't seem to mind going against bigger WR's, so i hope they'll hold up. I think Horton should be in much of the game, Doughty is ok, but I like the kid. Doesn't matter who starts, just how much they play.

I see a real close game, hoping the Skins pull it out, 33-30.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 20, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Alex, if I am going to get screwed by my government, they may as well be attractive.

Posted by: Redskins Fan | September 20, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

how come none of you ibt-ches told me about kim kardashian being in playboy? nude!!! not cool man! not cool at all! to keep things like that to yourself. i've always come up here whenever conan the destroyer, barbarian, classic nfl games are on and shared the knowledge...

Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

skins D will have no problems rattling KW's cage...they just need JC to be ben rothlesbreger...that's all...it's gonna take to win...

Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

how come none of you ibt-ches told me about kim kardashian being in playboy? nude!!! not cool man! not cool at all! to keep things like that to yourself. i've always come up here whenever conan the destroyer, barbarian, classic nfl games are on and shared the knowledge...
Posted by: dealer | September 20, 2008 8:55 PM

EWWW I love hot ass as much as the next guy but Kim Kardashian, not like you could not find video of her naked before.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering,
Does anyone else think the last two pictures in the Sarah Palin album that I posted earlier, were doctored photos??

Secondly, what did the t shirt
GILF mean?

Pardon my ignorance...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Governor I'd love to F***

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

When will everyone realize that all of us hate some part of america, even the flag waving right wingers hate the liberal hippie types, the fact that bother are =ly american and part of the United States. To hate one or the other is to hate part of america.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 20, 2008 8:02 PM

I don't hate the "liberal hippie types", I just hate everything that they stand for. Well, at least 95% of what they stand for.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 20, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Mattsoundworld said: Slavery was never mentioned, eh? So when African Americans talk about racism in America, they dont have any hard feelings about the 300 years of slavery, huh?

Now whose the blithering idiot?

LOL. And with that we're done.


Posted by: LH | September 20, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

king card you are an idiot. you act as though the cards have good people in their front office. it should not be called a millen it should be called a bidwell.

Posted by: rls1041 | September 21, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

ARE tries to juke people instead of running when he returns kicks.

Posted by: rls1041 | September 21, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

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