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Bruce Allen prefers that NFL not change overtime rule

NFL owners plan to gather in Orlando next week where they're expected to vote on one of the most dramatic rule changes they've considered in recent years.

No, Redskins general manager Bruce Allen isn't an owner, but he has a definite opinion about the proposed overhaul of the NFL's overtime rule.

"I'll wait to see the proposal, but overtime, since 1958 has had one team--the team that scores, wins," Allen said on Wednesday. "And that's pretty good."

Currently, the first team to score in the overtime period wins the game. But under the proposed rule change, if a team wins the coin toss and kicks a field goal on its initial drive, the other team would then have a possession to try to score.

"I like the 1958 rules better," Allen said.

Twenty-four of the 32 owners would have to approve changing the current overtime rule. If you're curious, in the past five years, the Redskins have played six overtime games. The team that won the coin toss has won four of them.

According to the Associated Press, the league's competition committee found that since 1994, teams that won the overtime coin toss won nearly 35 percent of the games on the first possession. More than 26 percent of time, those games were won via field goal on that opening drive of overtime.

By Rick Maese  |  March 18, 2010; 1:00 PM ET
 
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I think they should have a kicking shootout like hockey, except instead of goalies, they have linebackers charge the kicker unblocked from 10 yards.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | March 18, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Man change that joint.

OT in the NFL is a joke.

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Peter kING said on ESPN Radio NYC that it didn't have the votes. Just an FYI.

Posted by: chrislarry | March 18, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

The other 31 NFL owners do not want to bail Snyder out of one of his biggest Draft blunders ever (1st, 3rd, 4th and the 1st that was used). Thats why Snyder couldnt even get a 2nd Rounder for JC last year when he was dying for Sanchez..

The NFL owners continue to "stick it" to Snyder for screwing up what was the NFL Owner's "good ol boys unwritten rule" the "Head Coaches Salary Ceiling".
Snyder shattered that ceiling by raising it nearly 3 million dollars per year when he signed Gibbs back in 05.
All the NFL Head Coaches (and Assistants) uncapped salaries escalated proportionally and dramatically for all NFL teams, thereafter.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 12:48 PM |

Change Snyder to Gibbs biggest mistake ever and you got it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 12:55 PM
=================================
If JC is done as an NFL Starter..
The Draft pick could go down as the worst ever, in the history of the NFL, when you consider the Return for what was given up.

Even the Ricky Williams deal, got some return from Ricky. Skins, so far, have gotten a 4-21 career W-L record against their Division.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

OT rule is perfect as is. You want to win? stop the other team.

F College OT

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Would rather they concentrated on getting a deal done w/the union. But, whateves

Posted by: Curzon417 | March 18, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The other 31 NFL owners do not want to bail Snyder out of one of his biggest Draft blunders ever (1st, 3rd, 4th and the 1st that was used). Thats why Snyder couldnt even get a 2nd Rounder for JC last year when he was dying for Sanchez..

The NFL owners continue to "stick it" to Snyder for screwing up what was the NFL Owner's "good ol boys unwritten rule" the "Head Coaches Salary Ceiling".
Snyder shattered that ceiling by raising it nearly 3 million dollars per year when he signed Gibbs back in 05.
All the NFL Head Coaches (and Assistants) uncapped salaries escalated proportionally and dramatically for all NFL teams, thereafter.


Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 12:48 PM |

Change Snyder to Gibbs biggest mistake ever and you got it.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

This analysis is a real crock. We didn't give up a 1st, 3rd, 4th, and a 1st to get JC. The price to acquire JC was a 3rd and a 1st and 4th the following year. That is the same as trading a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th in the current year for the rights to JC.

Argue all you want about his value, but please use the proper price.

Posted by: frediefritz | March 18, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

snagm, that trade was what 5 years ago...um...might be time to move on....start small, like with say Taylor Jacobs, then move on to Pierce.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | March 18, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Because I hate everyone who isn't black.

Posted by: RedDMV

You're gonna have a hard time in 20-30 years, (assuming you're still alive) since the races are all mixing.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

My rule change:

Each team gets a possesion if the game is still tied then it goes to sudden death.

Flounder genius!!

Flounder super genius!!!

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Now that the games have started...The brackets were unlocked....

And I am only one out of 2 people who picked K State to win it all......Good ish!

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Robert Morris is up on Villanove by 8 in the 1st...

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 18, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

If JC is done as an NFL Starter..
The Draft pick could go down as the worst ever, in the history of the NFL, when you consider the Return for what was given up.

Even the Ricky Williams deal, got some return from Ricky. Skins, so far, have gotten a 4-21 career W-L record against their Division.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 1:17 PM |

I agree but you stated that Snyder made that call, Snyder had no idea who JC was.

That was Gibbs choice all the way.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Currently, the first team to score in the overtime period wins the game. But under the proposed rule change, if a team wins the coin toss and kicks a field goal on its initial drive, the other team would then have a possession to try to score.

"I like the 1958 rules better," Allen said.

Sorry, Bruce, but the NFL OT rules suck.

Make it an additional 15 min. quarter, and whoever has the most points, wins.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Don't give up. I'm sure you can still troll your way into your daily JC debate.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | March 18, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Now that the games have started...The brackets were unlocked....

And I am only one out of 2 people who picked K State to win it all......Good ish!

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 18, 2010 1:20 PM |

Thats why I'm gonna whoop you.

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

OT - First to 6 wins. Easy.

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 18, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

What kind of tooth paste does Bruce Allen use? And does he floss?

Posted by: ga8085 | March 18, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Don't change it...

We, the skins, have been having bad luck in OT since the Turner days...I'm fine with how it is now...

...Just push the KO point back to the 35 yrd line....

Posted by: 4thFloor | March 18, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Make it an additional 15 min. quarter, and whoever has the most points, wins.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:23 PM

That's silly. Then what happens if they finished tied again after the additional period.

Posted by: Number4DCSportsFan | March 18, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

1. Tebow is not worth a 37, especially for the Redskins who are "down" two picks in the draft at this juncture. 4 and 37 need to start from day one. Doubt he will fall to the 4th, and if he does, I think Redskins would be more wise to address another team need vice grabbing a charismatic project QB and tweener position player. Tebow makes for a great story, but IMO, its best to let that story be written in some other city. Feel free to put a marker down to play the "we should have grabbed Tebow" card if you must. I just think its not a wise use of the 37.

2. Jarmon was an OUTSTANDING use of a 2010 third round pick, the guy played his way into the mix, performed well, already played a year before the draft even occurred. Those who auto portray this move every time the subject comes up as some sort of negative or a waste of the pick because Redskins now don't have a 3rd rd pick are a) hard headed b) f*cking stupid.

3. Not sure what problem Porter will be brought into solve. While I agree with the generality that "competition is good", does Orakpo need a challenger? If no, then who moves? Porter? Orakpo? Is Porter being brought in to simply create another D package option shuttling in and out of the game?? Is he willing to do that for even or less money than in Az? Evaluating the overall result of bringing him in doesn't make sense now, because there are too many unknowns in the equation. Seems to me that bringing in Porter sets up a daisy chain of moves that may or may not work out if one assumes he plays every down at his natural RLB spot. Therefore I think Haslett may have other ideas than plugging him in at RLB. Not sure Porter will go for that if he can get a guaranteed gig in the desert. Maybe I'm wrong, and he will buy into the "53 guys together can't lose" mantra.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 18, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"You're gonna have a hard time in 20-30 years, (assuming you're still alive) since the races are all mixing."


"Will youse stop with all the race-mixing crapola, willya'?"

signed, Archie Bunker

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

According to the Associated Press, the league's competition committee found that since 1994, teams that won the overtime coin toss won nearly 35 percent of the games on the first possession. More than 26 percent of time, those games were won via field goal on that opening drive of overtime.

By Rick Maese | March 18, 2010; 1:00 PM ET


This means 9% of all OT games since 1994 ended with a field goal on the opening posession. You want to change the whole structure of OT because 9 times out of 100 the game doesn't end the way you want it to?

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Bruce, but the NFL OT rules suck.

Make it an additional 15 min. quarter, and whoever has the most points, wins.

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Never happen. Think of all the injuries that would mount up.

I like the sudden death but they need to move the kick-off spot up so the kickoff team gets a better shake on field position.

Posted by: Devo2 | March 18, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

'Nova down by six to the 15th seed...

Man, WTF is really good?

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"Will youse stop with all the race-mixing crapola, willya'?"


signed, Archie Bunker

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"you big dummy"

Signed, Fred Sanford

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 18, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

If you must change the OT rules... give the coin flip winner the ball at their own 20.

Let sudden death ensue.

That will make the coin flip winner drive 50 yards to attempt a long FG. Would likely prolong the game creating even more drama while decreasing the advantage of getting the ball via coin flip and KR to the 30-35.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 18, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Will youse stop with all the race-mixing crapola, willya'?"


signed, Archie Bunker

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"you big dummy"

Signed, Fred Sanford

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | March 18, 2010 1:35 PM |

"dying aint much of a livin boy"

Signed, Josey Wales

Posted by: Flounder21 | March 18, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Once again: 91% of the time, the game ends with either a touchdown or both teams getting the ball.

This isn't good enough?

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 18, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Will youse stop with all the race-mixing crapola, willya'?"


signed, Archie Bunker

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"you big dummy"

Signed, Fred Sanford

Posted by: JohnDinHouston


"DYN-O-Mite!"

signed,

Jimmy Walker

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 18, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"Bruce Allen prefers that NFL not change overtime rule"

I prefer Big "BEN" go to jail for raping two women. Will that happen who knows.

Posted by: skinsinsider101 | March 18, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse


Bruce Allen prefers that NFL not change overtime rule

By Rick Maese | March 18, 2010; 1:00 PM ET


Uh, oh. First sign of serious conflict between Snyder and Allen. Snyder's been pushing the "Buffalo Wild Wings Overtime Option."

Under this plan, the overtime period can't end until the fans have bought as much beer and nachos as they bought in the first 10 minutes of the first quarter.

Allen will have to learn to talk with his boss before running his mouth like this.

Posted by: League-Source | March 18, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

First to 6 wins is better and simpler.

If you give up a TD, you can't complain.

If you give up 2 FGs, you can't complain.

Strategy changes... what do you do if you have 4th and 3 at the 15... take the points and hope for a stop or try and win on that possession?

How is that NOT better than the current rules?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 18, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Let me guess, someone will quote the Fonz next?

Posted by: RedDMV | March 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"Will youse stop with all the race-mixing crapola, willya'?"

signed, Archie Bunker

"you big dummy"

Signed, Fred Sanford


"dying aint much of a livin boy"

Signed, Josey Wales

"Let's see how big it can get..."

signed, John Holmes, porn star

Posted by: MistaMoe | March 18, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If JC is done as an NFL Starter..
The Draft pick could go down as the worst ever, in the history of the NFL, when you consider the Return for what was given up.

Even the Ricky Williams deal, got some return from Ricky. Skins, so far, have gotten a 4-21 career W-L record against their Division.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | March 18, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Not even close, IMO. Leaf, at no. 2 overall, and Tony Manadarich, at somewhere in the top 5, were much worse. True, the 'Skins did give up three picks to get JC, but you couldn't trade those picks (which were, as I recollect, either a late first or a first from the following year, plus a 3rd and a 4th) and get up as high in the draft as those two busts were taken. And you could certainly argue that Leaf was a WORSE QB than Campbell. Granted, though, another in a string of lousy personnel moves by the 'Skins in recent years.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 18, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | March 18, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"Rosebud"

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | March 18, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

How is that NOT better than the current rules?

Posted by: Rypien11 | March 18, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse


More ties, more injuries. What happens if 15 minutes is up and only 3 points have been scored?

Both teams already have 60 minutes to win. If they can't do it in 60 minutes, then sudden death is fair.

We're only talking about 9% of OT games ending with a field goal on the first posession. It's hardly a staggering number.

Posted by: Original_etrod | March 18, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't like Jason Campbell. But if Kyle Shanahan can make Matt Schaub(doesn't hurt to have AJ) the QB he is, then maybe he can do something with ol' stupid.

Posted by: iH8dallas | March 18, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Robert morris in the house!

Posted by: chrislarry | March 18, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't know why Bruce Allen should even bother to spare a thought on how overtime games are played.

It's not as if Washington Redskins under Starting Quarterback for Life Jason Campbell (JC17) are going to be in position to play very many overtime games -- as most contests under JC17's field leadership are already well decided by the start of the 4th quarter.

And besides -- recalling the long period of time last season when Hunter the Punter was tied with JC17 for the team lead in touchdown passes thrown -- the Washington Redskins would probably be better served by having their defense or special teams unit on the field in overtime.

Perhaps Redskin interests would be better served by having GM Allen argue for a "Mercy Kill" rule similar to the one used on a lot of pee wee sports fields. Under this rule, officials could call a game and award an immediate "mercy kill" victory to any team that goes up by 50 points or more. That might make the second half of games against division rivals and other offensive powerhouses mercifully shorter and somewhat easier to endure.

Ain't hating, just saying...

Posted by: Vic1 | March 18, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

We're only talking about 9% of OT games ending with a field goal on the first posession. It's hardly a staggering number.

Posted by: Original_etrod

Etrod - The 25% was not taken of the original 35% it was taken from the whole number of overtime games. What is was meant to say was 25% of the time, the team that wins the coin toss takes it down and scores a field goal on the first possession. Pretty f#$ing lame if you ask me.

College rules are MUCH better why aren't they doing that?!

Posted by: jspin77 | March 18, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Why can't they do it just like college, where the offense gets the ball on the opposing team's 30(?) and both teams get the ball in overtime rounds until one team has scored more points? I think that has made the college game more exciting and would do the same for the NFL.

Posted by: stwasm | March 18, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd prefer that they eliminate FGs and Punts. Get a First Down or score a TD. Or go on Defense.

Posted by: Sulphide1 | March 18, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

They should do OT like they do in college. Each team gets the ball at the 25. If still tied after 2 possessions, they must go for 2 points after TD.

Posted by: Ireland2 | March 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I think they should have a kicking shootout like hockey, except instead of goalies, they have linebackers charge the kicker unblocked from 10 yards.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | March 18, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse
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We saw that, except the kicker was a punter, and the punter tried to throw it.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | March 18, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Etrod - The 25% was not taken of the original 35% it was taken from the whole number of overtime games. What is was meant to say was 25% of the time, the team that wins the coin toss takes it down and scores a field goal on the first possession.
Posted by: jspin77

So what is right - what it said or what it meant to say? The way it reads is that about a quarter of the 35% is a first drive FG (which is approx 9%).

Posted by: amaranthpa | March 19, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

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