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George Allen, Shula used gamesmanship off the field, too

We mentioned earlier that Washington general manager Bruce Allen was in attendance Wednesday night for a fund-raiser that honored Don Shula for his philanthropy.

Shula didn't expect Allen to be in the audience but was happy to see him.

"Bruce is a good football guy," said Shula. "Coming up with George as your father, you're going to know a lot about football."

Shula, who turned 80 last month, thinks highly of the Allen family and had a funny anecdote to share about George Allen, against whom he coached for several years.

"I had a great relationship with [Bruce's] dad," Shula said. "George was a guy I enjoyed competing with, had a lot of respect for. He went on to the Rams, and he would never know what time it was. It would be 11 or 12 o'clock [at night], and he's working in his office and he'd decide to call me about a trade. But it'd be 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning when my phone rings. 'Hey George, you know what the hell time it is?' 'Oh, I forgot there's a three-hour time difference.'"

"So the next morning -- I was an early-riser -- I'd get up at 6 or 7 o'clock, thinking I'd give George a call -- which is 3 o'clock his time."

Devin Thomas, the man, the pjs, the tats

The Redskins' wide receiver poses for a photo session and Dan Steinberg looks for a theme. He seems to settle on night-time shirtless seductive lullabies.

On the Mark

Former Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell says he is ready to go, if needed, for the Saints Sunday in the Super Bowl.

By Rick Maese  |  February 4, 2010; 11:20 AM ET
Categories:  Bruce Allen  
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Comments

First!

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | February 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Deez Nutz

Posted by: OG_Barno | February 4, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Go Mark, Go!

I get a kick outta that, too.

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Don't make much difference what some 80 year old former coach of the Dolphins thinks of your GM, so long as that very same GM continues to allow JC17 to take a roster spot for the Redskins. Frankly, we can’t help it if JC17 can’t read defenses, check down to secondary receivers when the primaries are covered, or throw for more than 7 yards downfield -- but GM Allen most certainly can.

Posted by: Vic1 | February 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Vic1,

What are your thoughts on keeping Cooley and Davis?

If JC17 is QB, does it matter who lines up at TE?

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 4, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Okay, we've talked about Campbell, Portis and Cooley ad nauseum. Let's pick a new player to talk about.

I vote for Barnes. What the heck happpened with him? I thought he was going to be a contributor right away and instead he didn't get on the field in games until the end of the season. Was the guy really that raw? Does he factor into the future plans of the team? How far away is he from being a starting corner?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I think that's just in Minnesota, Al.
Skins foobaw heaven has Lombardi courting... but they have to party with the HOggetts!
...ew...
Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I dont think its just a Minnesota thing, I happen to believe that there are many football gods, heck they are the only deities I even recognize at this point.

There are the gods for each team.
There are the gods of offense, & defense
The god of the Coin Toss
The god of the kickoff
The god of injuries

Then there are the minor gods, gods of the half time, gods of the pre-game show, gods of the pass and the run of the sack and the pick, gods of the Rivalry, of the fan-boy of the face-paint and the novelty foam finger.

And they all live in the football after-world in a grand stadium where each sits on a throne made of gold and silver, covered in old leather surrounding a giant football field.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and F_ Brunell. I am sure the Colts live in fear of being screen passed to death.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

New pipe dream:

Trading down - getting Iupati, Jahvid Best, and Baluga/Campbell/Brown at tackle.

Boy thatd be sweeeeeet.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

alex35332,
Don't forget the god of the double-move. I think I heard Landry and Rogers cursing him.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Mike Iupati is a holding penalty waiting to happen.

at least from what I saw in the Senior Bowl

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Redskinhead….just an IMO, but with the exceptions of Horton and Orkapo, it seems to me like Zorn and Blache really did not like to give any of Cerrato’s draft picks any sort of playing time. They loooved to talk up how great everyone was doing in camp, but when it came to game time action, I think they only broke the glass on these guys when they absolutely had to due to injuries. You could say that Tryon, MK12 and DT11 all saw action without injuries to others, but not much.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I want C.J. Spiller!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Come on, He's getting rave reviews from EVERYONE who saw him....

How about our #4 to Seattle for their #14 and #40.

With 3 picks in the top 40, we can get Iupati, best available RB and best available T in 2nd.

And Seattle would have #4 and #6 picks, so they would have their choice of QB and whoever else.

Hmmm...

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

4th is kickin it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Is Jimmy HOffa buried in that stadium, too?

Posted by: DikShuttle | February 4, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Redskinhead….just an IMO, but with the exceptions of Horton and Orkapo, it seems to me like Zorn and Blache really did not like to give any of Cerrato’s draft picks any sort of playing time. They loooved to talk up how great everyone was doing in camp, but when it came to game time action, I think they only broke the glass on these guys when they absolutely had to due to injuries. You could say that Tryon, MK12 and DT11 all saw action without injuries to others, but not much.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | February 4, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I agree with your views on MK12 and DT11 but I think Tryon is a HUGE bum.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 4, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

For all the draftniks out there, one QBs that is quietly rising up the draft board is Tennessee quarterback Jonathan Crompton. He's at the Texas vs. Nation Bowl game this weekend. That's the bowl for the best players not invited to the Combine but are considered draftable. Crompton really improved as a QB under the guidance of Lane Kiffen, which shows he's coachable and has potential.

Posted by: TWISI | February 4, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Ryp,

I heard some good things leading up to the game about him.

But he didn't look all that great during the game.

One of the guys calling the game was pretty critical of him. There were 5 or 6 holds that he got away with.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 4, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Doubbling down on the "F Brunell" sentiment with his freakin' water pistol arm.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Who was that one LT that kept getting beat so bad that the dude he went up against won the MVP of the senior bowl?

That bama sucks.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

PPSTR8 - well, if they don't think he's worth it at 14, then you go with Trent Williams or Anthony Davis - one of those guys will still be available.

I think its worth it to pick up a high 2nd rounder to drop from 4 to 14.

Get 2 lineman and a back, or 3 lineman.

That solves a lot of problems on the offensive side of the ball.

Then you use FA and the later round picks to shore up D.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

agree about trading back.

Might be tough to find a partner though. From everything I've read this draft is deep.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | February 4, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What you guys think of picking up Sean Jones, the free safety that played for the Eagles last year.

Posted by: ATLredskin | February 4, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

For all the draftniks out there, one QBs that is quietly rising up the draft board is Tennessee quarterback Jonathan Crompton. He's at the Texas vs. Nation Bowl game this weekend. That's the bowl for the best players not invited to the Combine but are considered draftable. Crompton really improved as a QB under the guidance of Lane Kiffen, which shows he's coachable and has potential.

Posted by: TWISI | February 4, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

HEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you guys really that desperate to replace Campbell.

Posted by: ATLredskin | February 4, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Doubbling down on the "F Brunell" sentiment with his freakin' water pistol arm.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 12:04 PM

That's because he had an injury he didn't disclose....

...He was good for 2 years with us...once we got Santana....Bringin in Saunders and his injury messed him up.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice to see Mark Brunell earn a championship ring, but it seems unlikely his team would win if he were to see any meaningful playing time Sunday. Super-smart guy, but good golly do I wish he hadn't been our QB all those years.

By which I'm saying I wish Gibbs hadn't had such severe trust issues with young QBs. Not that Ramsey or Campbell necessarily would've made the team that much better, but at least they had "upside"... Brunell had only downside, and plenty of that.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Alex, hold up, each friggin' team has its own football god??? That doesn't make sense.

I know gods are capricious and all that, but how on earth would you explain the Detroit Lions?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ATLredskin | February 4, 2010 12:25 PM

Crompton is a developmental prospect. He wouldn't replace JC off the bat. Scouts are stating to see that Crompton has potential. What is it that about him you don't like?

Posted by: TWISI | February 4, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"...agree about trading back....Might be tough to find a partner though. From everything I've read this draft is deep..."


A deep draft means you should want picks, not to move down.

Right now, Jarmon for a third rounder sucks as we could use that 3rd round pick this year to snag a middle linebacker, center, running back, or another corner.

Nothing against Jarmon, mind you, but now with a new regime promising a new defensive scheme, he's kinda like a luxury we can't afford.

We need picks.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

4th, I remember him having a few nice games here and there, but I think he was the starting QB longer than what he should've been.

Didn't they give up draft picks to get him?

On another note, I'm a big fan of PDX's "Good Golly" line.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Football players don't die and go to normal heaven you fools, the go to a football equivalent of Valhalla, where every day they go into a great stadium and play a game of football to the death in front of the great sports gods! Then each night they drink meed and wine eat a great feast and make love to the cheerleader-like valkyries.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 4, 2010 11:22 AM

That's just awesome... (except maybe I'd want to upgrade the bar menu a bit over mead and wine)

Time for a survey! - what's on the bar menu in football Valhalla?

1. Single Malts
2. Cubans
3. Hendrick's Gin
4.
5.
6.
7.

etc...

Posted by: edvar | February 4, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We need picks.

Posted by: MistaMoe

And you can only get picks by moving down.

Which is why I advocate trading #4 to Seattle for 14/40.

They might not do it, but would be great for us, and would leave them with the #4 and #6 picks.

Posted by: Rypien11 | February 4, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"Crompton is a developmental prospect. What is it that about him you don't like?"


Crompton is a turnover machine.

I'd take LeFevour in round 2, let him sit, learn the offense, and plug him in should Campbell falter even with improved line play.

Campbell has a rocket arm that fires missles with a guidance system not telling them where to land.

With no true deep ball game, teams will play 8 man fronts and dare Campbell to beat them, and blitz when he shows he can't, blocking be damned.

LeFevour threw two nice deep balls in the Senior Bowl to guys he's not had much time to practice with while Campbell and Moss still ain't on the same page.

LeFevour might be the dude that turns the page--in '11, mind you.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 4, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

May I be so bold as to suggest "Ballhalla"?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

New topic ... You guys are all losers except Red. Discuss!

Posted by: 4SkinzForever | February 4, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I know gods are capricious and all that, but how on earth would you explain the Detroit Lions?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse
------------------------------------

She has a thing for pirates, so for the longest time was off in the bushes with the Buccaneer god. But that went south and he ended up spending a lot of time at the office.

Both she and the Raiders god got ridiculously drunk at an exclusive post Super Bowl XXXVII party, and have been carousing through the Pacific surf somewhere near San Diego ever since.

By sheer chance, she saw Matt Millen on a draft day news cast in a bar down there, and phoned in to tell him where he could fsjk off.

See? perfect sense

Posted by: mattsoundworld | February 4, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, each team has their pagan god - even the Detroit Lions. Their god is Testicleese Minor, the god of small balls.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

PSPS' - This year's New Carlos Rogers?

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/02/03/cb-florence-ranks-among-10-best/

Drayton Florence

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

They call me worse things like: "Thug" or my personal favorite "whacktard"...

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Rams sign brother of Saints WR Lance Moore
By Jim Thomas
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Email thisShare this Print this Digg Yahoo! Del.icio.us Facebook Reddit Drudge Google Fark Stumble It! FORT LAUDERDALE, FLA. _ The St. Louis Rams have signed wide receiver Nick Moore, the brother of New Orleans Saints wideout Lance Moore, to their offseason roster. Like his older brother Nick Moore played his college ball at the University of Toledo.

Nick Moore, 6-2, 194, had 78 catches for Toledo during the 2008 season, including what was then a Mid-American Conference record 20 catches in a 13-10 upset of Michigan. The Rockets became the first MAC team to beat Michigan; Moore was arrested later than night for his alleged role in a fight outside a Toledo bar.

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

For all the draftniks out there, one QBs that is quietly rising up the draft board is Tennessee quarterback Jonathan Crompton. He's at the Texas vs. Nation Bowl game this weekend. That's the bowl for the best players not invited to the Combine but are considered draftable. Crompton really improved as a QB under the guidance of Lane Kiffen, which shows he's coachable and has potential.

Posted by: TWISI | February 4, 2010 11:58 AM

No. He is a TO machine and is the next Rex Grossman w/o the talent.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 4, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Rams sign brother of Saints WR Lance Moore
By Jim Thomas
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Email thisShare this Print this Digg Yahoo! Del.icio.us Facebook Reddit Drudge Google Fark Stumble It! FORT LAUDERDALE, FLA. _ The St. Louis Rams have signed wide receiver Nick Moore, the brother of New Orleans Saints wideout Lance Moore, to their offseason roster. Like his older brother Nick Moore played his college ball at the University of Toledo.

Nick Moore, 6-2, 194, had 78 catches for Toledo during the 2008 season, including what was then a Mid-American Conference record 20 catches in a 13-10 upset of Michigan. The Rockets became the first MAC team to beat Michigan; Moore was arrested later than night for his alleged role in a fight outside a Toledo bar.


Posted by: 4thFloor | February 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Horrrrrrrrryy cow.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | February 4, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

LS, even Vinny would know you're not getting two #1s for Haynesworth.

Posted by: brownwood26 | February 4, 2010 6:19 AM

Two #1's is what Albert orders at the drive thru

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 4, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Who was that one LT that kept getting beat so bad that the dude he went up against won the MVP of the senior bowl?

That bama sucks.

Posted by: RedDMV | February 4, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

That was an O-lineman that MistaMoe has been trying to push on us.

Ciron Black from LSU.

The commentators also said he would not project as a LT in the Pros. However, that was where he was playing in that game.

Mike Iupati-

While getting Rave reviews during the week, he didnt demonstrate it during the game. He apparently has short arms and that was the reason they say he holds so much. Made a point of saying how he doesnt punch out with his arms, but instead grabs, so he tends to hold as defenders try to go around him..

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | February 4, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

* beep beep *

new post...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | February 4, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Crompton is a turnover machine

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 4, 2010 12:55 PM

Good analysis. I started mine, got distracted, came back to RI and then posted. Anybody who has seen a handful of Vol games would agree that Crompton is garbage and Kiffin’s wife would and should be higher on your draft board.

Posted by: Diesel44 | February 4, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe,
I think 2nd might be too early for LeFevour - maybe he'll be around in the fourth round and I wouldn't hesitate to pick him then. I personally like Pike, but I don't think he's worth of second round consideration either. The quality of the QB's coming out this year just isn't that great, and I would not be unhappy if the team just focused on other positions: primarily the offensive line, but maybe a running back, linebacker and a true free safety. It might be hard to trade for draft picks, but maybe there is a way to trade for a young QB that has potential.

These guys are restricted free agents if the CBA dissolves, but here would be my wish list. I think Brodie Croyle didn't get a chance in KC and he'd be number one on my list. I also think Kellen Clemons is a guy that could contribute. Troy Smith is intriguing.

I think the team has to re-sign Campbell and then maybe trade for one of these guys to provide some competition. I can't see Collins sticking around another year, and Colt Brennan still has to prove he belongs in this league. So, bring in another guy and then declare the position totally open for competition.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | February 4, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"Two #1's is what Albert orders at the drive thru...."


Mad funny, just mad funny.

Why?

Analysis:

We picture a 320 pound wealthy black man stuffed into the front of a new Bentley ordering a dollar value meal, and complaining about--above all things--the price.

Posted by: MistaMoe | February 4, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Time for a survey! - what's on the bar menu in football Valhalla?

1. Single Malts
2. Cubans
3. Hendrick's Gin
4.
5.
6.
7.

etc...

Posted by: edvar | February 4, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

4. Heineken
5. Buffalo wings, spicy, with ranch dressing

Posted by: rbpalmer | February 4, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

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