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Redskins have not ruled out drafting a QB, Allen says

Despite recently acquiring Donovan McNabb, the Redskins have not ruled out selecting a quarterback in the three-day NFL draft that begins Thursday, General Manager Bruce Allen said Monday.

Allen touched on a wide range of topics during the Redskins' mandatory pre-draft availability at Redskins Park, including the team's efforts to trade former starting quarterback Jason Campbell, its attempts to add depth and competition in many areas despite currently holding only four picks and the potential impact of trades. But Allen, who is as skilled as any NFL executive at concealing his draft plans while also playing the misdirection game, revealed little, if anything, about the Redskins' intentions.

"Understand that I'm not going to get too specific, so don't get upset," Allen said. "I'm going to attempt not to lie to y'all. Key word: Attempt."

To acquire McNabb, the Redskins gave up their second-round pick this week and either a third- or fourth-round pick in the 2011 draft, and "we're very pleased to get Donovan McNabb," Allen said. "When the 37th pick [the second-round selection Washington sent to Philadelphia] comes up in our draft room, there's going to be a nice cheer that we selected Donovan McNabb this year. We've evaluated the players based on the Redskins' board. And we're going to go by the Washington Redskins' draft board."

The Redskins last Thursday conducted private workouts with Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen -- considered the top quarterbacks in the draft -- in Norman, Okla., and South Bend, Ind. The Redskins did not consider canceling those trips after trading for McNabb because "those were a very important part of the evaluation," Allen said. "Really got to know them even better, even though it's the third, fourth time I had an opportunity to talk to 'em. Both players had good workouts."

As for Campbell, Allen acknowledged the trade market for the five-year veteran could increase during the draft as teams pick quarterbacks and there are fewer options available. "It's hard to predict. You would think, common sense, that might happen," Allen said. "There's been some conversations with people who are interested. You know, Jason's a known commodity and a proven player in this league. But nothing is imminent."

The Redskins have the fourth overall pick and also hold selections in the fourth, fifth and seventh rounds. Acquiring more picks could prove difficult, Allen said.

"History will tell you that there's not much trading in the top four picks," Allen said. "We've looked at it a number of different ways. But in the recent years, there's not a lot of movement up there. We are listening. The phones will be open. We have a listed phone number, in case someone wants to make a trade, but it's hard to project what's gonna happen."

By Jason Reid  |  April 19, 2010; 12:24 PM ET
Categories:  Bruce Allen , Jason Reid , NFL Draft  
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Comments

Gamesmanship... it's not gonna be a QB...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 19, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Have they ruled out drafting a tight end?

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

That's a great tune, but we need MORE COWBELL!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 19, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant, sween. They could draft a tight end with the pick they get in a trade for Chris Cooley.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 19, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

" ... Allen touched on a wide range of topics during the Redskins' mandatory pre-draft availability at Redskins Park, ...."

The mandate is that they be available, not that they say anything that candidly let's anyone know what's really going on.

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"This is the best draft in a while to have a lot of picks."


It sure is.

That's why I believe two players will be moved oin draft day/night for picks in round 5.

And that sounds like Campbell and McIntosh to me.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Gamesmanship... it's not gonna be a QB...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 19, 2010 12:47 PM

Gamesmanship requires excellence at Stratego ... which means its going to be one of the top two Colonels (or they trade down for a bunch of Miners).

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Sween, did your email machine get hijacked, or should I really click on the video of Ms. "Paulette" you sent me?

Posted by: 4-12 | April 19, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Good thing for us and for JC is that with all the depth in this years draft the QB position is not particularly deep, especially with blue chip QB's. After the kids from ND and Okla the QB position gets thin pretty fast with not a lot of players really standing out. Hopfully this could add to any interest in JC, maybe someone will see him as being a better option then a Robinson of Lefevour or Pike and trade us a 4th for him.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 19, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

If anything, I hope this is all about trying to create a buzz about possibly selecting Clausen at the #4 slot, so that we can trade out of it.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I happen to think David Broder is a hack,others call him dean of the Wash Press Core.....

I know this runs counter intutitive to RI group think but lately the comments

Posted by: chrislarry | April 19, 2010 12:37 PM

press corps ... or press corpse ... depending on how you really feel about the guy.

4-12, it was a 6 minute attack yesterday AM btwn 6:31 and 6:37 ... I think I stopped it. I did receive my own little side bene ... a link for some cheap Canadian pharmaceuticals ... who knew that there were FIVE different "strengths" of V!agra, with different "speeds" and durations?

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

1) Ignore blog post, journalism, and politics altogether
@) Scan for posts from the cool kids
#) Test blog sand to vag ratios, adjust accordingly
}) Post something completely irrelevantless
^) Link to bad music from bygone era
h) Hide head in shame

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be surprised if Suh is drafted at 4. That should send a strong message to AL.

Posted by: abxinc | April 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

P1- while I agree that much has been made about the Clausen/ Pete relationship... but that doesn't answer my question. What would be the point in trading for 1 young QB, who you think is your QB of the future, and then drafting another QB, who you think is your QB for the future, the same year without even testing out your 1st new toy?... Really, it doesn't make any sense to essentially use 2 draft picks in 1 year to go get your QB of the future???

Especially on a team that has one of the worst olines in the league (skins might trump them in that but its close), no real #1 Wr, RB, or a real dline for that matter. They have as many, if not more, needs than we do... and your saying that they are going to go out and use 2 draft picks on the same position? Vinny didn't get hired there did he?

I mean I get your point about the relationship being continuously brought up, but again that seems more like a smokescreen than anything real.

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

... who knew that there were FIVE different "strengths" of V!agra, with different "speeds" and durations?

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 1:05 PM

I mean, other than Big Ben (who has that little problem with the exposures of his Little Ben).

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the "listed" number? I'd like to offer them a trade..

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

How about this? Albert "Cystic Fibrosis Poster Boy" Haynesworth for a 3rd rounder and a Subway Party sub? ( All condiments included )

Posted by: bostskin | April 19, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the "listed" number? I'd like to offer them a trade..

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 1:12 PM

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I'll give them a ham sandwich for Portis

Posted by: COskins | April 19, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

All signs point to Okung: (1) Kyle Shanahan talking up our o-line; plus (2) Bruce Allen smokescreening that we're thinking of taking a QB.

Welcome to Washington, Russell!

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | April 19, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"All signs point to Okung: (1) Kyle Shanahan talking up our o-line; plus (2) Bruce Allen smokescreening that we're thinking of taking a QB."


The signs point to the hope that some team wants to move up to 4 to get a quarterback, while we slide down to, say, 9, and draft T Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I expect a good year from CP26.

Go Portis!!!!!

Posted by: Vicc | April 19, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: peoplearestupid1 | April 19, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse


Whitehurst has a 2-year deal. That's not exactly a QB-of-the-future contract. The 'Hawks got him in March before Clausen had a chance to work out for teams.

If you like Clausen that much, and you think he's a franchise guy, and you believe in him, then you get him.

Again, I certainly don't know, and I don't even necessarily think that Carroll really wants to take him - but my whole point is figuring out how to generate a buzz about it. If that can be accomplished, somehow, it puts Skins in a good position to trade down.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

You already told us who your drafting thursday BRUCE when you decided to send Chris Samuel to NY for draft day...

Welcome abroad Okung!

Posted by: taylormade218 | April 19, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Right, Taylor?

Can you imagine Samuels throwing out a ham-sized handshake to a QB or a Safety?

na.ganna.happen.

I'm actually pretty disappointed they tipped that hat. So then does this QB talk point to a later round acquisition?

... I hope they do pick two OLs at least in the draft. Let's cover the needs first. But, I'm up for a project QB later.

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 19, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"There's been some conversations with people who are interested. You know, Jason's a known commodity and a proven player in this league. But nothing is imminent."

Hrms, someone in Ashburh has already pulled out the smoker and barbecue pits, because I can hardly see through all the smoke. *cough* *cough*

Posted by: Veretax | April 19, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

In other news, the Rays sweep the sawx at Fenway.. carry on.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 19, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The signs point to the hope that some team wants to move up to 4 to get a quarterback, while we slide down to, say, 9, and draft T Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

You are 100% certain that Seattle won't take Williams at #6?

Posted by: midniterc | April 19, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

"All signs point to Okung: (1) Kyle Shanahan talking up our o-line; plus (2) Bruce Allen smokescreening that we're thinking of taking a QB."

The signs point to the hope that some team wants to move up to 4 to get a quarterback, while we slide down to, say, 9, and draft T Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM

Or better yet, that it is a sign that we are taking Okung at #4 and that some team who really wants Okung trades up to #4 and gives us back a pick where we can get Trent Williams.

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

sfit, yeah, its early, but there is grumbling...this roster was built on pitching/defense, and so far neither has shown up...when they ship Ortiz to SD for Adrian Gonzo, we'll be ok...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I just read that the skins had Jerry Porter, Marques Hagans, and Roydell Williams at the mini-camp over the weekend….does anyone know if any of them were signed? I don’t think that Jerry Porter has been the same ever since Sean Taylor laid him out a couple of years back……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 19, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Good thing for us and for JC is that with all the depth in this years draft the QB position is not particularly deep, especially with blue chip QB's. After the kids from ND and Okla the QB position gets thin pretty fast with not a lot of players really standing out. Hopfully this could add to any interest in JC, maybe someone will see him as being a better option then a Robinson of Lefevour or Pike and trade us a 4th for him.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 19, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Really? This is easily the deepest QB class to come along in a while. While not as deep as 2004 it certainly isn't THAT far off. Bradford, Clausen, McCoy, and Tebow provide a lot of options for teams looking at QB's. Not to mention a handful of guys with mid-round grades like Pike, Crompton, Snead, and LeFevour that teams will like as developmental prospects, which usually result in nothing but the point is they'll feel secure on draft day. Just because the draft doesn't have 2 or 3 guys guaranteed to go in the top 10 doesn't mean the class isn't deep.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 19, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Open to a trade down scenerio giving us extra picks. Only problem is no one is worth moving up to our spot unless by some unworldly chance the Rams don't pick Bradford. Or we can package a deal with AH, RM and or JC17. Can't wait but may be an uneventful Thursday.

Posted by: sthai75 | April 19, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Actually in looking at it this draft class is very similar to the 2008 class. One guy guranteed to go in the top 5 (Ryan/Bradford). One Mid-First Rounder (Flacco/Clausen), 2 second rounders (Brohm-Henne/McCoy-Tebow), and numerous developmental players.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 19, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the "listed" number? I'd like to offer them a trade..

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 1:12 PM

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I'll give them a ham sandwich for Portis

Posted by: COskins | April 19, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

What would you do with Portis?? I'd rather have the ham sandwich

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

NFL DRAFT STARTS IN 3 DAYS, 4 HOURS, AND 8 MINUTES!

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The signs point to the hope that some team wants to move up to 4 to get a quarterback, while we slide down to, say, 9, and draft T Williams.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

You are 100% certain that Seattle won't take Williams at #6?


I think Pete Carroll will take CJ Spiller or D Pryant.

There are enough tackles in the draft to where a team with picks has the luxury of taking a special receiver or running back high, and the linemen in rounds 2 and 3 and get quality.

Check out what the 'hawks have (from NFL.COM):

Round 1, Pick 6 (6) -- --
Round 1, Pick 14 (14) (From Broncos) -- --
Round 2, Pick 28 (60) (From Chargers) -- --
Round 4, Pick 6 (104) -- --
Round 4, Pick 29 (127) (From Jets through Eagles) -- --
Round 5, Pick 2 (133) (From Lions) -- --
Round 5, Pick 8 (139) -- --
Round 6, Pick 7 (176) -- --
Round 7, Pick 38 (245) (Compensatory selection)

So they can take what P Carroll likes--edge players with speed--and beef up his line with picks in later rounds.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the "listed" number? I'd like to offer them a trade..

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 1:12 PM

1-800-TRADE-JC

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 19, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Vicc

"I expect a good year from CP26."

The camp battle will be interesting as for the first time in years, Portis goes into camp needing to play hard or watch W Parker snag the team's attention.

I think the pairing of Parker and Portis will be the outcome of camp, with Portis starting.

If both backs amass 900 a piece (that's 1800 yards), I'll be happy every Sunday.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute - did he say we're picking McNabb with the 37th pick?!

We're gonna have TWO McNabb QBs?!?!

That's gonna be crazy!!!

(total chaos - mass confusion)

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah, BBQ smoke over Ashburn... that little place by the W&OD tracks on Ashburn Road used to make decent BBQ, and maybe still does, I think the name is Carolina Brothers... (wistful reminiscence from days past)

Posted by: NateinthePDX | April 19, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't wanna know what you'd do w/ Portis.

I REALLY don't wanna know what you'd do w/ tha ham sandwich.

...[shudder]

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 19, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Still wondering how the Eagles managed to get Ernie Sims for a 5th round pick...

...freakin unbelievable.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

More drafting,less guessing. We'll know soon enough what ALLEN's and SHANAHAN's plans are.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 19, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Ernie Sims = Takeo Spikes 2.0

Much ado about nothing.

Posted by: psps23 | April 19, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

More drafting, less guessing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 19, 2010 2:36 PM

"Giving into the pleas of the advertisers in the NFL and NFL Draft blogosphere, the NFL has relented and agreed to delay the draft for one more week."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/19/nfl-draft-delayed/

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"Still wondering how the Eagles managed to get Ernie Sims for a 5th round pick..."

Question:

Do you think Rocky McIntosh is worth a 5th round pick?

Answer:

I'd say 'yes' if Sims is.

We have to remember that Rock played in Blache's scheme where 'backers really aren't asked to do much.

So should we expect to see Rock and JC moved, especially during the down time of Thursday night when teams re-assess their draft boards?

I'd say yes, again.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

From the Boston Globe:

In the 2007 draft, the old Dolphins regime had four of the first 76 picks. They drafted Ted Ginn, John Beck, Samson Satele, and Lorenzo Booker. All are gone. Ginn was dealt last week for a fifth-round pick, Satele last year for a sixth-round pick, and Booker the year before that for a fourth-round pick, while Beck was cut last April. That tells you all you need to know about what a crap shoot the draft is.

WOW...that is the opposite of impressive...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

CapsXXVI-

Key to my post was blue chip QB prospects are not deep after the first 2. But thanks for agreeing.

Posted by: Stu27 | April 19, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Ernie Sims = Takeo Spikes 2.0

Much ado about nothing.

Posted by: psps23 | April 19, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

??

Takeo Spikes was a Pro Bowl linebacker before some serious injuries started cutting his seasons short (achilles injury in particular).

Ernie Sims had some injury setbacks last season, but nothing career-threatening.

I'd exchange a 5th round pick in a heartbeat for a guy that I knew was going to give me a couple of ProBowl seasons.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

AH for Leigh Torrence straight up. Championship!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 19, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

WOW...that is the opposite of impressive...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM |

Cam Cameron 2007 season started bad and got worse.

Posted by: will_ga | April 19, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

DAMM all this conjecture. Let's get this draft over with so we can start to rebuild this team.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 19, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

WOW...that is the opposite of impressive...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM

Irrepressive? Dispressive? Unpressive? Malpressive?

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll leave the draft the experts ! This year I hope to be getting that 14-16 topping pizza,not that puny 4 topping ( extra,extra,extra,extra ) cheese ,no meat and a lot of whine pizza we had last year ! Go Super, Super Supreme! !!! HAIL SKINNIES !!!!!!!!

Posted by: killerskunk63 | April 19, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Antidispretercounterpressive

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Not at all -pressive.

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Irrepressive? Dispressive? Unpressive? Malpressive?

Posted by: dcsween | April 19, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse
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Cerrato

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 19, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

From the Boston Globe:

In the 2007 draft, the old Dolphins regime had four of the first 76 picks. .... That tells you all you need to know about what a crap shoot the draft is.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM

I think it tells you all you need to know about "the old Dolphins regime."

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

This had better be a smokescreen at its finest. If Allen/Shanahan drafts a QB when we have only 4 flippin' picks and SO MANY other needs, then we are in worse hands than we were with Snyderatto making the decisions.

Posted by: Lisa_R | April 19, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Do you think Rocky McIntosh is worth a 5th round pick?

Answer:

I'd say 'yes' if Sims is.

We have to remember that Rock played in Blache's scheme where 'backers really aren't asked to do much.

So should we expect to see Rock and JC moved, especially during the down time of Thursday night when teams re-assess their draft boards?

I'd say yes, again.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse


I'd swap Sims for MacIntosh in a heartbeat.

Sims doesn't have good sack or INT #s (not that Rocky does either). But Sims is a tackling machine (when he's healthy in a full season) and far better at getting the ball-carrier than Rocky has proven to be.

I'd bet that Sims' sack/int #s improve once he gets on a functional defense with players around him that can attract some attention and pressure the QB.

Can't say the same for Rocky.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Woo Hoo!

I finally got my entire fist up my happy hole!

eagles rule!

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 19, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

From the Boston Globe:

In the 2007 draft, the old Dolphins regime had four of the first 76 picks. .... That tells you all you need to know about what a crap shoot the draft is.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 2:48 PM

I think it tells you all you need to know about "the old Dolphins regime."

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse


They signed Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees.

I think THAT'S all you need to know about the "old Dolphins regime".

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I finally got my entire fist up my happy hole!

eagles rule!

Posted by: Thinker_ | April 19, 2010 3:17 PM

I think you put it in there to pick your nose since you already had your head up there.

You're the silly pud was up here Saturday night blasting the Caps as "Chokers" right before they won the game 5-4. And you said what you were really referring to was a game they played against the Penguins a year ago.

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Non-Redskins Question:

Okay, I'm a Caps newbie wannabe trying to take the Mrs. (who interestingly enough is getting into the Caps) to a bar-restaraunt to watch the game tonight.

Someplace that is a Caps-fan destination. Not a hole-in-the-wall dive that gets drunk and rowdy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

There isn't much difference between Ernie Sims and Rocky McIntosh.

Since his rookie season Rocky has got over 80+ tackles each of those seasons.

Rocky McIntosh isn't Lance Briggs or some other all-pro OLB, but let's not make him out to be f-ing Vernon Gholston.

Rocky won't wow you, but he gets it done.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 19, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Someplace that is a Caps-fan destination. Not a hole-in-the-wall dive that gets drunk and rowdy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:26 PM

Why don't you two drive over and watch the game with Cork?

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Rocky Mac=Robert McCune

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with Shanahans reading of history, in recent history yes very little trading in the first round. But there was one trade last year, and there are years where there are massive numbers of trades.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:26 PM

Why don't you two drive over and watch the game with Cork?

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse


Ha, ha.

If Cork lived in the DC area (I think he's on the West Coast??), I'd be happy to clink beers with that sad-sack gestapo-liberal old codger.

RI taunts and tiffs mean nothing in the real world (at least to me).

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"They signed Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees."

D Culpepper?

Wow!

Talk about a fall from grace.

We now know that Culpepper was the reation of R Moss and C Carter.

It's a sad thing when your career fall apart because two deuche bags aren't around to catch your poorly throw passes.

But which quarterback has had the quickest exit from the stage of 'greatness':

pick'em:

M Hassleback

J Delhomme

D Culpepper

J Garcia

D Andersen

M Vick

M Bulger

J Kitna

Moe goes with Matt Hassleback.

Memba all the B Favre comparisons they made during 2004-05 when he and Holmgren had the 'hawks playing well?

Well, dude gets his team into the Super Bowl, and fades out to injuries and mediocrity, and is about to be replaced by some dude named Whitehurst.

And a white hearse is what they'll take his career memories away in.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 19, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I'm a Caps newbie wannabe trying to take the Mrs. (who interestingly enough is getting into the Caps) to a bar-restaraunt to watch the game tonight.

Someplace that is a Caps-fan destination. Not a hole-in-the-wall dive that gets drunk and rowdy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Are you looking in the city or no?

The Penn Quarter Sports Tavern‎ is popular with the Caps fans, great wings (WARNING: thought the wings are great they make the major mistake of serving with ranch)

Posted by: alex35332 | April 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

RI taunts and tiffs mean nothing in the real world (at least to me).

And in the virtual world they mean less than nothing.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

There isn't much difference between Ernie Sims and Rocky McIntosh.

Since his rookie season Rocky has got over 80+ tackles each of those seasons.

Rocky McIntosh isn't Lance Briggs or some other all-pro OLB, but let's not make him out to be f-ing Vernon Gholston.

Rocky won't wow you, but he gets it done.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 19, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse


Apart from last year when he was limited by a shoulder injury, Ernie Sims has averaged 120+ tackles a season over 3 years.

He's better than Rocky.

I'm not out to dog, Rocky, my point has more to do with Eagles snagging Sims for a 5th and 7th round pick.

Seriously, that's the kind of crap you pull when you've got a "bust" on your hands and you're trying to dump him - kind of like what we'll end up doing with JC17.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

You're the silly pud was up here Saturday night blasting the Caps as "Chokers" right before they won the game 5-4. And you said what you were really referring to was a game they played against the Penguins a year ago.

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:23 PM

They won the game 6-5. Some hockey insider you are.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If Cork lived in the DC area (I think he's on the West Coast??), I'd be happy to clink beers with that sad-sack gestapo-liberal old codger.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:37 PM

You're right. Cork lives in the Los Angeles area. He's listed as the Chairman and CEO of Cork's Fine Writing and Bonnetry,Inc.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-corcoran-jr/4/5b3/572

Posted by: League-Source | April 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

RI taunts and tiffs mean nothing in the real world (at least to me).

And in the virtual world they mean less than nothing.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 19, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse


Don't say that to RedDMV.

Last year, I think he waited outside of a local Red Lobster to fight Truth.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Don't say that to RedDMV.

Last year, I think he waited outside of a local Red Lobster to fight Truth.

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I think we were all there waiting to watch, remember, then Talent Evaluator was podcasting the live stream.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 19, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

The Penn Quarter Sports Tavern‎ is popular with the Caps fans, great wings (WARNING: thought the wings are great they make the major mistake of serving with ranch)

Posted by: alex35332 | April 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abus


Gotcha.

Penn Quarter.

BYOB (Bring Your Own Blue-Cheese)

Posted by: p1funk | April 19, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Last year, I think he waited outside of a local Red Lobster to fight Truth."

Conjurers up a great virtual image. The stuff great literary works are made of.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Redskins signed NT Howard Green to a one-year contract.
The Skins are stockpiling wide bodies as they switch to a 3-4 defense. Green, who goes 6-foot-2 and 320 pounds, turned 31 in January. He dressed for 12 games with the Jets last season and recorded 23 tackles with no sacks.
Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter

Posted by: BugEyes | April 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

ls, from cork 'alleged' website:

"A company that writes unpublished book, creates unperformed plays and pens unfilmed screenplays. Bonnet work is temporarily on hold"

Would book not be plural in this instance???

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I gotta go with Culpepper.

He had that insane 2004 season w/ 39 TDs n 11 picks, and followed it up with a 6 TD 12 pick half season, a knee injury, and the rest is history.

No one else on that list crashed and burned quite as fast as he did.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | April 19, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Allen said. "There's been some conversations with people who are interested. You know, Jason's a known commodity..."
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ummm damning with faint praise.
"known commodity".....

Means the other teams know what we found out, he is not a NFL starting QB. And you can only get a 5th round pick for a back-up, if you're lucky.

Posted by: cliftonbiz | April 19, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

DLeep
DLeep

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 19, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"Last year, I think he waited outside of a local Red Lobster to fight Truth."

Conjurers up a great virtual image. The stuff great literary works are made of.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | April 19, 2010 3:51 PM

It was dark and stormy that night too.

Posted by: SMACK1 | April 19, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't say that to RedDMV.

Last year, I think he waited outside of a local Red Lobster to fight Truth.

Posted by: p1funk

It was the i-hop... I had just finished giving his moms the ol' super rooty tooty fresh 'N fruity.

Where that boy stay, Red Lobster's are a very pricey luxury. You gotta remember he's from the same place where the Wal-Mart and bowling alley are the only forms of a "nightlife".

Posted by: RedDMV | April 19, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Did not know that The Cork is the same John Corcoran who used to be on channel 7's news when I was a youngster.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | April 19, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

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