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Bugel's goodbye comes from the heart

Longtime Redskins offensive line coach Joe Bugel announced his retirement Wednesday afternoon in a 20-minute ceremony in which he was introduced by new head coach Mike Shanahan and joined by several of his former players at the Redskins Park.

Bugel's message was simultaneously simple and meandering, spanning his 32-year NFL career but could be summed up with his feelings about the organization for which he worked for 15 seasons.
 
"I love being a Redskin," Bugel said. "I don't want to sound corny. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I'm a real Redskin." 

Speaking without notes but with, as he said, trembling knees, Bugel stood in front of a screen that showed pictures of him throughout his career, as well as testimonials from his former players and associates. Several times, he expressed his love for Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, who sat in the second row of the auditorium with new general manager Bruce Allen. He repeatedly showed off a Super Bowl ring - he won two in Washington during Joe Gibbs's first tenure as head coach - and said his only regret was that he couldn't help the Redskins win another when he returned under Gibbs in 2004.

"When the owner wins a Super Bowl," Bugel said, "that ring is going to cover five fingers."

Snyder spoke briefly with reporters afterward, and said it's been "a pleasure, a real pleasure" watching Bugel work.

"He's just a great Redskin," Snyder said. "To see him up there and for people to get a chance to see his emotions about the Redskins organization -- the players, the coaches -- it was nice."

Looking at his former players seated in the front row - Chris Samuels, Randy Thomas, Derrick Dockery, Mike Williams, Doc Walker, Don Warren, Raleigh McKenzie and George Starke - Bugel said, "This is the toughest thing in the world to walk away from this group right here." But he said he looked forward to spending time at his homes in Arizona and California with his wife of 41 years, Brenda, and the rest of his family.

"There comes a time in a man's life to bow out, and bow out gracefully," Bugel said.

By Barry Svrluga  |  January 13, 2010; 12:45 PM ET
 
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Buges outclassed that Front Office.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

He's still there, in his office, as a consultant for another month or so.... Hopefully not consulting on the upcoming draft..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

That's kind of scary. Kind of like a poltergeist.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 13, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

easy on the 3-4 talk, mere speculation at best, wouldn't it make sense for them to make BETTER use of the players they have in running the 4-3, than to switch to a 3-4 and NOT have the players to make it work....I mean doesn't changing to a 3-4 seem like putting the scheme before the players....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 13, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse
Well, Beantown, alex and I are not going to implement it. We're just BOGO about how it could work. I can't see us doing it full-time, but it would be nice as a change of pace/different look, as such...

Posted by: frediefritz | January 13, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Not sure, Red. Somebody knows, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"There comes a time in a man's life to bow out, and bow out gracefully," Bugel said.
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So, whats the deal with Samuels? Is he taking this advice or is he draggin out the process?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

easy on the 3-4 talk, mere speculation at best, wouldn't it make sense for them to make BETTER use of the players they have in running the 4-3, than to switch to a 3-4 and NOT have the players to make it work....I mean doesn't changing to a 3-4 seem like putting the scheme before the players....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 13, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Thankyou. Glad to see someone with some common sense.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 13, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Not sure, Red. Somebody knows, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

If you don't know google it. If google doesn't know then just google porn instead.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 13, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

BUUUGESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Posted by: cancunlizzard | January 13, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The strangest part...It is well known that Shanahan wanted Bruce Allen, not Vinny as VP/GM. Yet, Shanny and Vinny were together in SF (maybe why Shanny knew better).

Must lead to some uncomfortable moments at Redskins Park when these respective paths cross.
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That's kind of scary. Kind of like a poltergeist.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 13, 2010 12:52 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

So, whats the deal with Samuels? Is he taking this advice or is he draggin out the process?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

__________________

I think it's been reported a few times that he'd be making a decision in February.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

So, whats the deal with Samuels? Is he taking this advice or is he draggin out the process?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Our team Dr. left and is now the HC @ Southern.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

zjfr2 I don't know about McNabb for a second. I say that because I'd expect a 2nd rounder to be a contributing starter for at least his rookie contract (4-5 years) give or take, plus at least a contract extension (2-3). In essence you'd be getting half the production out of McNabb from what is expected out of a high draft pick if he has 3 years left in him.

Posted by: TWISI | January 13, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

While I generally agree with that thought on 2nd rounders I think the whole conversation gets skewed when you start talking QB. IMO there's no QB in this draft or the next or the one after that is going to give a McNabb level of QB play for 3 years. Additionally, a 2nd round pick while certainly more of a sure thing than a late round pick there are no guarantees that pick will be a hit and you get a Pro Bowl level player. McNabb gives you a shot to both win now and build for the future. He knows he won't be playing forever, so you have no controversy when you draft a young QB next year. And PA, I said re-sign Levi, Heyer, and sign another tackle, plus draft oline late. We'd be hard pressed to get much better than that in terms of depth. Levi is a quality RT for a year or two and Heyer is quality young depth. He's not a full time starter but a spot start or two plus a signed vet and young guys. That's good enough for me. Commit to taking quality lineman in the first 3 rounds of the draft over the next 5 years. Take your future franchise QB next year, let him sit behind a Pro Bowl QB for two years, to me hard to get a more solid plan than that and all it costs you is a 2nd round pick that may or may not have been a good pick for knowing what you get in McNabb.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 13, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel is irreplaceable, and will be sorely missed.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Not sure, Red. Somebody knows, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse
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Trademark protects identification, Copyright protects content.

If Pepsi suddenly switched to red and called their drink Cola Classic, they could be guilty of trademark infringement.

If Pepsi stole the Coke recipe and distributed it, they could be guilty of copyright infringement.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

forgive me for being late to the discussion, but been busy...is Haslett a 3-4 defense?

SOunds crazy, but who coaches the Alabama Offensive Line, that person has put out studs and ridiculous rushing attack.

Posted by: mhartz1 | January 13, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse
You got that right, mhartz. I sure does sound crazy. In fact, it is crazy. SEC is a great league, but...

Yes, Haslett has experience in both 4-3 and 3-4. He played in 4-3, coached as DC Pittsburgh in 3-4.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"use in commerce or trade" is the delineation.
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What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

So, whats the deal with Samuels? Is he taking this advice or is he draggin out the process?

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

__________________

I think it's been reported a few times that he'd be making a decision in February.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 12:59 PM

Would he like to be a coach under Shanahan? We have some openings.

Posted by: League-Source | January 13, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Jumping in late here, so not sure if this is some random non-question for the last post, but the C in the circle means that it is a federally registered trademark. The TM means that it is a trademark (so it puts you on notice that it is someone's intellecutal property), but not registered. (In the US you still have trademark protection even if it is not registered, provided that you use it, you just get extra protection if you register it federally).

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 13, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 13, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Still to high for Mcnabb if you consider the fact that the Jets only gave up a 4th for Favre. Granted, Favre was about 6 or 7 yrs older then Mcnabb, but also alot less injury prone too.

Posted by: ga8085 | January 13, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

ga, thanks I don't get that very often....

best wishes to buges...hopefully Samuels was paying attention....and Thomas...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 13, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I have so much respect and love for coach Bugel. He represents a vanishing era in coaching. In my mind, he's the best line coach in the history of the NFL and I will always be proud to say that he coached my beloved Redskins.

Posted by: bfly64 | January 13, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Jumping in late here, so not sure if this is some random non-question for the last post, but the C in the circle means that it is a federally registered trademark. The TM means that it is a trademark (so it puts you on notice that it is someone's intellecutal property), but not registered. (In the US you still have trademark protection even if it is not registered, provided that you use it, you just get extra protection if you register it federally).

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 13, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

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Helps if I actually read the question right. Matt is right - one is trademark, the other is copyright. I was answering a question you didn't ask - the difference between a TM and a R with a circle. Sorry.

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 13, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 13, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Quick Samuels update:

Rick Maese tweets that Samuels says he needs one more checkup before deciding whether he'll retire. 4-5 weeks away still

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 13, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

ummmmm no offense, but the "C" in the circle does not mean its a federally registered trademark.
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What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

Jumping in late here, so not sure if this is some random non-question for the last post, but the C in the circle means that it is a federally registered trademark. The TM means that it is a trademark (so it puts you on notice that it is someone's intellecutal property), but not registered. (In the US you still have trademark protection even if it is not registered, provided that you use it, you just get extra protection if you register it federally).

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 13, 2010 1:05 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

If Pepsi stole the Coke recipe and distributed it, they could be guilty of copyright infringement.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse
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Actually they would be guilty of stealing someone's trade secret (since the Coke recipe is lost in a vault).

Posted by: suzannepdc | January 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Vinny should be consulting on unrinal cakes.

He reported that "You mean the thingies you pee on and stuff?".

Posted by: daggar | January 13, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

actually, Matt - your scenario gets into patents.. not copywrite, I believe.

The recipe is patented, if it were published, the cookbook would be copywritten.

The trademark would be the logo or phrase ( I don't even KNOW what coke's is these days.. hehe)

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for all who gave some info the trademark and copyright symbols.

As for PAskinsFan, you sir, are lazy! Teach one, reach one... No hamster left behind and such as...

Posted by: RedDMV | January 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I just won a TM fight.. A company in the UK had added an exclamation mark to my TM'd mark and began to use it in commerce.
The USPTO did their job and protected me.

If you are considering a TM, the $300+ investment is worth it.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV

In a nut-shell:

™ - Unregistered trade mark used to identify a property or legal entity.

© - Copyright is a form of intellectual property which gives the owner exclusivity for a period of years.

I hope that helps.

Posted by: hock1 | January 13, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Report: Bobby Turner accepts Washington job


Another longtime Denver Broncos assistant is headed elsewhere: running backs coach Bobby Turner will join Mike Shanahan and the Washington Redskins as associate head coach, FOX 31’s Josina Anderson reports. The move is expected to be finalized today.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Matt and Suzanne -

So, if I want rights to the phrase "Run Around Suh", would I need a TM or a C?

And I myself would probably be guilty of stealing it from Dion.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Hail Buges!!

Posted by: chrislarry | January 13, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

A very tough man exits with grace. Hail to Joe Bugel.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 13, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

wtg SnaGM! you won one for the goodguys!

RE VC UC Consultancy:
I just figured he knew enough about sucking, he should capitalize on it...

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 13, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

If Vinny's still at Redskins Park, he's like that guy in Office Space who always responds to his demotions with "OK, but Im going to burn the building down". Only Vinny says "OK, but we shouldnt waste draft picks on OL. We can just get them off the street and stuff".

But seriously, I dont think he's there. Im sure JReid or another beat reporter would have reported seeing him there and posed questions like "why?" and "whats he still doing there and stuff?". Ya know?

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

actually, Matt - your scenario gets into patents.. not copywrite, I believe.

The recipe is patented, if it were published, the cookbook would be copywritten.

The trademark would be the logo or phrase ( I don't even KNOW what coke's is these days.. hehe)

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 13, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah it was just an illustration which would immediately make sense.

In reality, the coke recipe IS published somewhere (if not publicly) so even semantically and technically the example would hold up, though I don't dispute the additional legal charges suggested by yourself and others would be valid.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

buges is the man!!!

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 13, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Matt and Suzanne -

So, if I want rights to the phrase "Run Around Suh", would I need a TM or a C?

And I myself would probably be guilty of stealing it from Dion.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse
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Copyright, unless that's the name of your company. Not sure the offices would judge that worthy enough material, but that's a separate discussion.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 13, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

See, DEBACLE '09 ® is a registered trademark. Note the little R with the circle thingy. 'I'm so Zorny', however, is something someone else said that is best forgotten.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

BOSS HOG!!!!!!

Posted by: Tymmel44 | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"So, what's the deal with Samuels? Is he taking this advice or is he draggin out the process?"


C Samuels--and a lot of other players on this team--will be on the look oout for the day teams can release players.

The decision B Allen has right now is, who stays, who goes.

The day that day gets released is going to have this blog flipping like pancakes on crack.

You have to expect a major overhaul of both older and younger players.

And then there's the ol' CBA issue to factor in.

C Sanuels' name will mentioned in there somewhere.

Trust me, or my name is I-HOP.

And I'm flippin'.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Has an OL coach ever made it to the HOF? He'll no doubt he in the Skins ring of honor or whatever they call it. His name will be posted up at FedEx. Look for a halftime ceremony next season to honor him like B Mitch.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

All time favorite Bugel comment came from this past season.

Bugel On Chad Rhinehart: "He was, I think, a third-round draft pick for us. It's his second year. He's come alive. He kept on growing. He didn't go in a corner and pout or suck his thumb when he got benched. He just worked harder. It's paying dividends for us right now... he's a high-character guy. You can coach him real hard. You can push a guy and push a guy, and sometimes a guy will just suck his thumb. This guy got better and better." - Joe Bugel

Probably because I pictured a grown ass man like Rhinehart pouting and sucking his thumb like a two year old, but I laughed my ass off when I first read that.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 13, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah DikShuttle .. my kid's favorite Curly line from the 3 stooges...
"If at first you dont succeed you keep on suc-king until you do succeed"
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Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Bugel rules.

Samuels is done done done. Randy Thomas will try to come back but don't count on him for anything more than depth. That's quality depth though. Heyer is good depth with all the experience he has and as hard as he works. Levi is good depth given his experience - but he's in the same boat as Randy, and where Samuels was last year. Only a matter of time before something goes "pop" and he's slowing. Mike Williams . . . watched him standing around too many times looking for someone to block while JC was getting body slammed - but he's good back up guard material.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | January 13, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

You read about Buges retiring and you think, why is there not a HOF slot for outstanding postion coaches?

32 years: that's a lot of football you've influenced, probably more so than any announcer or media-type.

(Sorry for the hyphen abuse.)

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 13, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Copyright, unless that's the name of your company. Not sure the offices would judge that worthy enough material, but that's a separate discussion.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

No, just a phrase I'm trying to coin. Trust me, this one will come out around draft time.

Keep away from "Run Around Suh"?? Come on, brilliant!

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Rhinehart is on the small side right BeanTG? If he can move, maybe hes a good fit at RG for Shanny's offense. I'd be happy with Dockery and Rhino at G for next season. Rabach can hold it down at C another season at least. Tackle is where the problems/questions are.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

See this Jansen, this could have been YOU if you weren't so damn sensitive.

Maybe you and Buges could have both been retiring today -- as Redskins. Samuels too if he weren't still deciding on what to do with his career.

How cool would that have been?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 13, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Bugel rules.

Samuels is done done done. Randy Thomas will try to come back but don't count on him for anything more than depth. That's quality depth though. Heyer is good depth with all the experience he has and as hard as he works. Levi is good depth given his experience - but he's in the same boat as Randy, and where Samuels was last year. Only a matter of time before something goes "pop" and he's slowing. Mike Williams . . . watched him standing around too many times looking for someone to block while JC was getting body slammed - but he's good back up guard material.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | January 13, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

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Randy Thomas won't be back as depth, not at his current salary anyway. He's either healthy enough to start with a good young prospect chosen to learn behind him for a year... or he'll be gone.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

You read about Buges retiring and you think, why is there not a HOF slot for outstanding postion coaches?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 13, 2010 1:29 PM

Because there's no clear way to evaluate them.

Why doesn't the Post have an HOF for outstanding bloggas like MistaMoe? Same reason. Easy to spot the bottom 90%, not so easy to find the top 2%.

Posted by: League-Source | January 13, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Ryp.
I think Suh's agent and attorneys would make your life miserable (and expensive).
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Copyright, unless that's the name of your company. Not sure the offices would judge that worthy enough material, but that's a separate discussion.

Posted by: mattsoundworld

No, just a phrase I'm trying to coin. Trust me, this one will come out around draft time.

Keep away from "Run Around Suh"?? Come on, brilliant!

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:30 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

screw jansen....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Brooklyn Skins I agree about RT77 for depth next season. Especially if its an uncapped year. In that case, who cares if your back up RG is making $5 or $6 mill a season?

I wonder if it is uncapped next year, what are the possibilities of renegotiating contracts to pay off huge chunks of over inflated bonuses to prepare for the following season which could see the cap reinstated. Ex: Pay off a huge chunk of AH92's $40 mill bonus and reduce future cap numbers.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the timing of Samuels retirement is about getting his money and salary cap issues.

Both the Redskins front office and Samuels realize there are some days to file the paperwork that are better than other days.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Vinny on urinal cakes,

"You can't use the cakes unless you have a lot of confidence. Right now, you don't have urinal cakes so you just don't have any confidence. So when you can get just one of these urinal cakes to sit in urinal your confidence will build a little. Then you go out and get another one. See? The more urinal cakes you get the more your confidence will grow, and the more cakes you will use."

Posted by: ggt546 | January 13, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Did Jansen even start for Detroit this year? I thought I remember seeing him on the sidelines when they beat the Skins this season...

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Keep away from "Run Around Suh"?? Come on, brilliant!

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:30 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:34 PM

The man in Black did it better with "A boy named Suh".

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 13, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

lol.. priceless..
You need to add.. "we have the most 1st round urinal cakes of any team"
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Vinny on urinal cakes,

"You can't use the cakes unless you have a lot of confidence. Right now, you don't have urinal cakes so you just don't have any confidence. So when you can get just one of these urinal cakes to sit in urinal your confidence will build a little. Then you go out and get another one. See? The more urinal cakes you get the more your confidence will grow, and the more cakes you will use."

Posted by: ggt546 | January 13, 2010 1:37 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

We have a blogger HOF. Its kinda unwritten.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 13, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Brooklyn Skins I agree about RT77 for depth next season. Especially if its an uncapped year. In that case, who cares if your back up RG is making $5 or $6 mill a season?

I wonder if it is uncapped next year, what are the possibilities of renegotiating contracts to pay off huge chunks of over inflated bonuses to prepare for the following season which could see the cap reinstated. Ex: Pay off a huge chunk of AH92's $40 mill bonus and reduce future cap numbers.

Posted by: VaBeachBlitz | January 13, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse


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Because there will likely be a cap the following season. And if you don't cut a player in a capless year, you're gonna have to take a dead cap money hit and have it count the following year.

If you can get rid of bad contracts during a capless year, do it. Other teams will be releasing players similar to Thomas, and you can sign those players to cap responsible deals.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between ™ and ©

Posted by: RedDMV


One is a TM and the other is a C


Sarcasm dont you love it

Posted by: GreatOne1 | January 13, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"So, if I want rights to the phrase "Run Around Suh", would I need a TM or a C?"
Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:16 PM

Hey Mark (May I call you Mark? Nice super bowl, by the way. But what have you done for me lately?)

You could not federally copyright that phrase because federal copyright registration generally requires "sufficient creativity", and titles, phrases and slogans have been held to be not sufficiently creative.

It might be possible to trademark the phrase, but only if your trademark was used to "identify and distinguish the source of the goods or services of one party from those of others."

Thus, a whole line of products with that phrase on it (shirts, hats, mugs, etc) might enable you to get a federal trademark to identify those goods.

Then again, I'm a patent guy, and don't have to deal with trademark and copyright, so I reserve the right to be wrong.

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | January 13, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Jansen was a backup for the Lions (who may be the only team with a worse line than the skins)

Posted by: alex35332 | January 13, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Then again, I'm a patent guy, and don't have to deal with trademark and copyright, so I reserve the right to be wrong.


Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | January 13, 2010 1:42 PM

Thanks for the advice. I have a friend in the design business, I'll see what he can come up with.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

ryp..
be sure not to tell anyone..
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Thanks for the advice. I have a friend in the design business, I'll see what he can come up with.

Posted by: Rypien11 | January 13, 2010 1:47 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 13, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

It all starts with the OL. That has to come first. The position coache[s] will be key. Have to assume Shanahan knows this.

Posted by: periculum | January 13, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

forgive me for being late to the discussion, but been busy...is Haslett a 3-4 defense?

_________________

I'm pretty sure he's a football coach.

Posted by: groundhogdayguy | January 13, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Buges is exhibit A, along with Dick LeBeau, Tom Moore, Monte Kiffin and a few others, for voting assistant coaches into the Hall of Fame.


Posted by: rbpalmer | January 13, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Jason:
Thank you for your post on Buges. He is on my all-time list of Redskins, and I have been a fan of the team nearly 60 seasons. I wish him and his family the best. My only regret is that the organization did not provide Coach Bugel and the team with better linemen during his second stint with the franchise. His first unit, the Hogs, all should be enshrined in Canton, but especially Joe Jacoby.

Posted by: royhobbs56 | January 13, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

TM stands for trademark and applies to logos like "Washington Redskins", Coca-Cola etc. The C stands for copywrite and applies to intellectual property such as a song a book etc.

Posted by: MikeKopp37210 | January 13, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Buges for the Hogs; best of luck!

4-3/3-4, I say fix the offense now and worry about drafting players to fit the 3-4 starting 2011.

Posted by: Skins930 | January 13, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Buges is exhibit A, along with Dick LeBeau, Tom Moore, Monte Kiffin and a few others, for voting assistant coaches into the Hall of Fame.

Posted by: rbpalmer | January 13, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hate to put it in the list but the recently departed Jim Johnson.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 13, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

So long Buges. In a man's game, you stood head and shoulders above the rest.

Posted by: edvar | January 13, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Randy Thomas won't be back as depth, not at his current salary anyway. He's either healthy enough to start with a good young prospect chosen to learn behind him for a year... or he'll be gone.

Posted by: dfbovey | January 13, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse
I'm not sure about that. He turns 33 this week. Certainly not over the hill for OL. I think they will evaluate his recovery. It's been 4 months since he injured the tricep. They should have a pretty good idea how fit he will be for training camp.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 13, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

beeping

Posted by: Skins930 | January 13, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Buges for the good times. Wish you well in whatever you decide to do. You epitomized what is was to be a "REDSKIN". It's just too bad that about 90% of team and coaches just never got that. Maybe new regime can bring that attitude back. I sure hope so.

GO SKINS!!!!!!!!

sorry, no hyphens.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 13, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I hope when Russ Grimm is inducted into the Hall of Fame he allows Buges to introduce him.. It will be a tribute to both men...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 13, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

We'll miss you Bugel. You're a lock to be in the ring of fame. I just hope that next year we can put together an offensive line that makes you proud. Sorry you had Vinny picking players for you.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | January 13, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Randy Thomas was done LAST YEAR. He suffered a severe neck injury at the end of the season that some thought was too dangerous to play with. He has a plate and 4 screws in his neck. He hasn't finished the last three seasons.

He's done.

Thanks for the great years, you were a beast of a pulling guard, but we have to move on now.

Posted by: edvar | January 13, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Why are you talking about trademarks and stuf? Wating everyone's time with non-football junk. Go google non-football stuff.

This moment if for Bugel. He will be missed. Hail.

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | January 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Much love to Buges. And A HUGE thank you!

Posted by: WrongDog | January 13, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I hope when Russ Grimm is inducted into the Hall of Fame he allows Buges to introduce him.. It will be a tribute to both men...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 13, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Buges should get elected to the hall as well. Guy is easily one of the best positional coaches in the history of the NFL.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | January 13, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Bummed that we missed out on Alex Gibbs as a possible replacement for Buges... apparently A. Gibbs has more loyalty to (or love for) Pete Carroll than he does Shanny? Or maybe Shanny didn't even make him an offer since he was already nabbing one staff member from the Texans? (not that it should matter one bit).

Posted by: PDXskin | January 13, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Is there a way the Redskins can honor J Bugel by not only having honoring him at halftime of a game next year, but also by placing his name somewhere on the ring of shame? I think its richly deserved. But wait, we're talking the Redskins. They would probably charge him full admission to get into that game and then when he balked, they would take him to court.

Posted by: garyolney | January 13, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Is there a way the Redskins can honor J Bugel by not only having honoring him at halftime of a game next year, but also by placing his name somewhere on the ring of shame? I think its richly deserved. But wait, we're talking the Redskins. They would probably charge him full admission to get into that game and then when he balked, they would take him to court.

Posted by: garyolney | January 13, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Papa Hog, you are a true Redskin. Thank you for all your work these past years and the way you managed to get a rag tag line to at least function effectively half the time this year was amazing. You did perhaps your best coaching job this year and it is appreciated.

Buges - you are the best. Thank you from Redskin Nation for all you've meant to us!

Posted by: laserwizard | January 13, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Joe Bugel, a very fine Redskin!! You will be missed!! HAIL!!!!!

Posted by: ladyredskins | January 13, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Joe.

Your what every boy wants to be, when he grows up,,,
and what every man should be, when he does.

Posted by: dashriprock | January 13, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for all the great memories Buges!! End of an era.

Posted by: Monkman63 | January 13, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hey wizard, true. Tough season. As much as the O line was maligned, I believe 100 % it would have been worse under anyone other than Bugel.

Good luck and enjoy time with your family Joe. Ring of fame all the way baby......

Posted by: mustang_johnny1 | January 13, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

F*******A

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 13, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm not seeing the performance and results from Joe Bugel that other commenters are seeing. Everyone seems to be turning into a Dan Snyder where sentimentality seems to be the order of the day and let's give him a medal.

I did not see a great performing line over the last six years. Not one quality lineman was drafted and developed in that time. When starters went down, the team was not prepared to bring guys in to replace them. They had not had the reps.

That's what's wrong with this team. They are not focusing on everything that goes into winning games.

Posted by: hz9604 | January 13, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I love me some Buges. And the man might've done some of his finest work this season. God bless, Joe!!

Posted by: SkinsFanNYC | January 13, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mr. Bugel.

It was a helluva ride and we enjoyed watching it.

Well most of it.

Good luck.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 13, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The man was given junk to work with here in his 2nd stint, if the front office wanted to upgrade the talent along the line we would have seen a dominant running game. Don't blame Bugel b/c he didn't draft or sign free agents. He made the best out of what he was given!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BeltwayBoy | January 13, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The last link to the glory years of the 1980s and early 1990s. Truly a key piece to the Redskins championship teams

Posted by: randysbailin | January 13, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for all you've done, Buges, you'll always be a Redskin and Boss Hog to us fans. Good luck in whatever you do in the future.

Posted by: ericenderle | January 13, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Coach Bugel looked the very part of the offensive line coach in his deportment, is body language, and how he commanded respect from his players. In his first run with Gibbs along with Betheard, then with Casserly he was allowed to train and execute superb blocking assignments to willing and eager linemen with names like May, Warren, Starke, Bostic, Grimm, Jacoby and many others that were trained to become All Pro lineman that allowed running backs such as Joe Washington, John Riggins, Byner, Rogers and others to run at will behind this line, control the clock, play smash mouth football, set up play action pass because the safeties could not cheat to the line of scrimmage. The Counter Trey play is a hallmark Gibbs and Bugel innovation which many team still implore in their reportorial of running the football.
Dannyboy there is your sign as you meddled with this team over the course of your watch that was the boilerplate to creating success and creating a dynasty. But no you had to bring in overpaid, over the hill has beens to this franchise leaving a taint of this team forever. Great to see a good coach finally here in Shanahan, and perhaps the marquee name of Allen provided he is not here to hump your leg like Lapdog Sock Puppet Cerrato did. If you don't draft or acquire at least 2-3 offensive linemen in the offseason it will signal to the fan base that it is business as usual and folks will drop their season tickets like they were infected with the plague.

Posted by: jamesjiven55gmailcom | January 13, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I love, Buges. Thanks for the memories.

I did not hear the press conference. I hope Buges acknowledged Jack Kent Cooke in some way. For some reason, this current owner goes out of his way to worship the coaches and players who contributed to the glory years of the 80's yet fails to recognize the person most responsible for it all, and that is Mr. Cooke!!!

Posted by: hokiepokster92 | January 13, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

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