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Campbell Breaks a Theismann Mark

From Jason Reid:

Quarterback Jason Campbell has set a Redskins record, throwing 175 consecutive passes without an interception. Joe Theismann held the previous mark with 161 passes in 1983.

"To be honest about it, I didn't even know," Campbell said. "It really doesn't matter to me individually, but the good thing about it is what it means for the team.

"It means we're holding onto the ball. We're taking care of the ball as an offense. That's definitely good right now."

By Cindy Boren  |  October 5, 2008; 8:15 PM ET
 
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Great job JC, now let's take that number and double it!!!

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | October 5, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

That's a team stat. It means that not only is JC being smart with the ball, but it also means the receivers are running the right routes, making the right reads, and the offensive line and running backs are doing their job in pass protection. It's not a coincidence that Theismann set that record in 1983, a year in which the 'Skins made the Super Bowl and dominated the league game in and game out.

These 2008 'Skins appear to be dominant on both sides of the ball, even if the scoreboard doesn't seem to reflect it by the point spread.

You have really got to be impressed with what's going on in DC. I think I'm as shocked as most rational people that the team won both of those back to back division road games. It's pretty surreal. Great teams steal wins on the road, but they also shut down the opponents that they should. We'll see if the 'Skins are a "great" team over the next three weeks. My money is on this team, for sure.

Posted by: PDiddy | October 5, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Time to negotiate a long-term deal with Jason. And, at the end of the season, with Coach Zorn.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I think JC did a good job again this week in triumphing over adversity, though this was statistically his worst game, probably due to not having a TD pass of his own, the last two games have shown him to be a leader of this team.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 5, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, where's "Sports Guru" now? The Redskins have a pretty good run of QBs in their history--Theismann, Doug Williams, Sonny Jurgenson, Billy Kilmer, Sammy Baugh to name a few--and none of them has gone 175 passes without a pick. We're 5 games into the season and JC hasn't turned it over AT ALL! Nor has anyone on the offense! Keep up the great work JC, and HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 5, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

AMEN to that. Lock this kid up IMMEDIATELY IF NOT SOONER

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you on extending JC, Talent. But I don't think you re-up with Zorn until he's done it for 2 years. The only way you lock him up long term for big money is if he's clutching a Lombardi in one hand and doing "hip hip hooray" with the other.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 5, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

T_E don't we have a 3 year contract with JimZ?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 5, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Blogging so much more fun when we're winning. Even Chris Larry is suspending his negativity for a weeK? It's a veritable love fest!

Al Caervik: "Hey everyone - we're all gonna get laid!"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Al Czervik that is. Hope that wasn't too R-rated...SJK if so

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

JC 7 YEARS 48MIL 19MIL BONUS

Posted by: poolman1200000 | October 5, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

T_E don't we have a 3 year contract with JimZ?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 5, 2008 8:27 PM

Yes. And we're paying him practically nothing, especially compared to the other coaches who didn't do as well as he did. That's fair for an unproven coach, but by the end of the year he won't be unproven. Dude deserves more pay and longer term security.

Coaches don't count against the salary cap and Snyder will step up and take care of Zorn unless the wheels fall off the wagon.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

As I told my girl last night as drunkenly discussing the skins with random strangers on the Metro. This City is a different place when the team is doing good, people are friendlier, the streets are less urine soaked.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 5, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

This team has the makings of something special.

SICWIDIT'S HHR's (Hip Hip Hooray's)

1) Shaun Suisam- Clutch FG's on the road...kept us in it. That's all you can ask of a kicker.

2) Clinton Portis- He's a beast!!!!

3) O-Line- We punched Philly in the mouth in the trenches in the 4th.

4) JC- This guy....I'm mean he's the real deal...He brings us from behind, scrambles for a CLUTCH 1st down, throws no picks....GIVE HIM A LONG TERM DEAL!!! He's our man.

5) London Fletcher...tackling machine.....

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

in two words

Hail All!!!!

Posted by: mdepo | October 5, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what the NFL record is? 175 is ridiculous...keep it going JC!

Posted by: svxcountry1 | October 5, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I do think that Zorn should get a new contract, but agree with the other guy who said next year. Now if Danny felt so inclined to give him a end of the season bonus of lets say 50K per win. I am cool with that.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 5, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Only five games in, but Zorn seems like he knows what he's doing. Which means it seems that Snyder and Cerrato knew what they were doing when they hired him. Depth a big concern for this team, we all questioned some of the roster cuts, no depth at LB, CB, DL, OL... I guess we were wrong and they were right, cuz some of the depth has already been tested and passed.

There are a few more youngsters on this team than the Skins get credit for, it's time to give them some credit, it seems that Snyder and Cerrato both learned a thing or two(or five or ten) from four years with Gibbs and are seeing the rewards so much more quickly than anyone could have guessed.

Kudos to the Skins FO, and HTTR!

Posted by: craig2 | October 5, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

The only way you lock him up long term for big money is if he's clutching a Lombardi in one hand and doing "hip hip hooray" with the other.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 5, 2008 8:27 PM

If he's doing "hip hip hooray" with his hand while clutching his "Lobardi", I hope he's doing it in private.

If he delivers this year, then you need to do right by him. If you wait another year, he can decide to play out the contract.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I am still in amazement...I thought 1-4 or 2-3 going into the season...growing pains with Zorn...he's done a great job and although I sound like a homer...a SB appearance is not impossible...but one game at a time. At least me get to play the University of St. Louis next week!

Posted by: svxcountry1 | October 5, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

308 without an interception Bernie Kosar 1990-91

Posted by: mdepo | October 5, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, are the Steelers only playing Sunday or Monday night this season? I feel like everytime I turn on the night game I am greeted by Big Ben.

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 5, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Suisham's 3 for 3 were all 40 plus yards ... one of them was 50 something!

Posted by: dcsween | October 5, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Suisham's 3 for 3 were all 40 plus yards ... one of them was 50 something!

Posted by: dcsween | October 5, 2008 8:42 PM

Suisham's field goals are longer than Brooks' punts. That's not a good thing.

Oh, and there was Suisham's kick off out of bounds. What was that about?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Thanks mdepo...so he still needs to be interception free probably a game past the bye week...okay...won't worry about that yet...he's doing awesome!

Posted by: svxcountry1 | October 5, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

T_E I'll excuse the kick out of bounds because of the win but yeah hopefully we don't see that again.

And Brooks may be on a short leash now...seriously that was some crappy punting!

Posted by: svxcountry1 | October 5, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Which was the worst "rookie mistake": Thomas's stupid block or Horton's not touching the receiver on the ground? Devin Thomas has cost us more than he's delivered for us. I'm glad Randy Thomas called him out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

the most important stat on JC's resume is he has been a winner where ever he has played- I just hope this dream season keeps going

Posted by: mdepo | October 5, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

To quote The Wolf in Pulp Fiction: "lets not start sucking each other's D%^&*s just yet." Still real real real early to start talking SB.

Lets take it one game at a time, and not take anything or any team for granted.

For now, F the lambs.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm so caught up in the moment that I'm willing to upgrade Vinny from Cabanna Boy to Shoeshine Boy, maybe even Towel Boy.

Good point on Steelers Suzanne. We get one MNF game, they get about 300. Soon they'll have to respect us....

Although as a Miami (OH) alumn, I love me some Big Ben

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | October 5, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

rookies have to play & the best way to learn is to make a mistake (luckily no game lost)- let me see last week Casey cost us 2 TD's in the same drive!

Posted by: mdepo | October 5, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse


What I love about this team:

1) Winning....period!
2) JC...Write it down...he's our franchise QB
3) Coaching...going for it on 4th and 1 when you're up...Now THAT is playing to win!!!
4) Coaching...playing the young players. So what if they don't catch TD's right away...they are out there contributing and the coaches are finding ways to get them involved.
5)Jim Zorn- he's the anti-Gibbs (at least Gibbs 2.0)
6) London Fletcher
7) Vinny Cerrato- I think Vinny knows what he's doing...Give him some love RI!!!

What I hate about this team...

Nothin' (although I was a bit pissed Springs didn't play because of his calf)...but at this point I'm just nitpicking

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

You know one of the amazing things about this team is that it shoots itself in the foot and still wins. All the Devin Thomas mistakes. The two TDs that Rabach cost us last week. Suisham's out of bounds kickoff. ARE's fumbled punt return. Horton's non tackle today.

Those were all big plays for our opponents, and we still beat them. They could have caused a Gibbs team to fold.

And am I the only one who's noticed that Zorn hasn't called two timeouts in a row to freeze a kicker? I wonder where he learned that?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I think Horton's mistake was worse...coulda really cost us...I still like Thomas, but he's gotta settle down.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

BTW

Who the hell made up the Giants' schedule? That sh*t is ridiculously soft.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

To quote The Wolf in Pulp Fiction: "lets not start sucking each other's D%^&*s just yet." Still real real real early to start talking SB.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 8:49 PM

Dude. Super Bowl talk is healthy. After the Giants game a lot of guys were talking about next year's draft.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

In the AP story, McNabb is quoted saying something like "I'm embarrassed, we've lost to teams the last two weeks we should have beaten." I don't know, but for the rest of the game after Jackson's return, the Skins certainly looked like the superior team to me. Sounds like excuses and sour grapes, Donovan. Maybe if you can score from the one yard line, you might actually win another game.

Posted by: amcg | October 5, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"I was embarrassed these last two weeks," McNabb said. "I mean, we lost to two teams we shouldn't have lost to. When you make mistakes and you don't capitalize on opportunities, things like this happen.

"Not taking anything away from them, but there is no way that team is better than us. The same went for last week and then you find yourself here wondering why. It's what we didn't do. Not what they did, but what we didn't do."

There's no way the Redskins are better than the Eagles?

McNabb isn't a very graceful loser.

I hope someone on the Redskins staff pastes that quote on the bulletin broad before the Eagles game at FedEx.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 5, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I still think will be a stud player for the skins. He needs to settle down and stop trying so hard to make an impact. When the game slows for him his aggressivness will be a benefit for the skins.

Posted by: TWISI | October 5, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

One point: The road to the NFC east crown NOW GOES THRU WASHINGTON!!

Posted by: mdepo | October 5, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Who the hell made up the Giants' schedule? That sh*t is ridiculously soft.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM

Who would you rather be: The Redskins at 4-1 with the toughest part of their schedule behind them or the Giants at 4-0 with the toughest part of their schedule ahead of them?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Loved watching Dion and Mooch almost choking having to give the Skins some props! F the national media! These skins are for real!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 5, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

board*

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

PS- When did Suisham install the RoboTron Leg Upgrade?

Posted by: mattsoundworld

I'm thinking Danny Smith has a hotline to Optimus Prime. He might need some new parts for Brooks.


Posted by: hrphillips | October 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

To quote The Wolf in Pulp Fiction: "lets not start sucking each other's D%^&*s just yet." Still real real real early to start talking SB.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 8:49 PM

Dude. Super Bowl talk is healthy. After the Giants game a lot of guys were talking about next year's draft.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and it was just as silly. Skins got off the floor in that game, too.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and there was Suisham's kick off out of bounds. What was that about?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I think Durant Brooks muffed some aspect of the play. We should cut him immediately.

Cheekily yours,
TDawg

Posted by: TDawg1 | October 5, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

BTW

Who the hell made up the Giants' schedule? That sh*t is ridiculously soft.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

----------------------------------

It works out to be about the same as ours in the end. We both play the NFC West and AFC North. Ours just happens to be front loaded with divisional road games.

We have STL, CLE, and DET coming up in a row, so our schedule will rachet down a notch till PITT 4 weeks from now. Not to say we will win all of them, but certainly STL and CLE at home should not be as emotionally draining as DAL and PHI on the road.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

whoa people


seriously let's chill with the insults to Gibbs, a BIG PART of any success this team has this year will HAVE to be attributed to Gibbs last year


he was a great emotional leader who lacked a little in his playcalling, but he REALLY CARED and gave this team 100% and I really don't even have to say he was a true Redskins. Let's let Gibbs be gone with respect and not insult him please!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

kinda w/the truth on this one...

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

+1 above, and along that line, Gibbs wasnt actually calling the plays full time if I understand the awkward situation right.

We see what Saunders has done for STL this year with a Pro Bowl QB and WR, and the RB isnt THAT bad...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Truth, agreed, Gibbs educated this FO as well as he gave this team the tough mentality they are now displaying!

Hail!

Posted by: Curzon417 | October 5, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

SICWIDIT's RI POLL

1) What do you think now?
a) 10-6
b) 9-7
c) 11-5
d) 12-4

2) Who gets your game ball?
a) Clinton Portis
b) Sean Suisam
c) Jason Campbell
d) London Fletcher

3) Wha'd ya' thing of the call on 4th and 1
a) too risky, and we got lucky.
b) Zorn's an azz!
c) We're playing to win!
d) I would have punted and let the "D"
win it.

4) Of the teams on the schedule that looked like "easy" games, which one scares you?
a) Rams (Al Saunder's offense)
b) Lions
c) 49'ers
d) Browns

5) What do you think of Devin Thomas?
a) Give him time' he'll break out soon
b) Vinny fu**ed up!
c) Bench him
d) Keep him but change his number

6) Which personnel has proved most successful for Vinny Cerrato?
a) Hiring Jim Zorn
b) Finding Chris Horton in the 7th
c) signing London Fletcher
d) keeping Greg Blache

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Personell wise, this IS Gibbs team. He brought in Portis, El, Moss, Campbell, Landry, Rocky, Cooley... Zorn inherited a team with alot of talent. We have always had talent. We've just squandered it with crappy coaching for a long time.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's let Gibbs be gone with respect and not insult him please!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:10 PM

Gibbs has his strengths and weaknesses. He deserves credit for his strengths. But the guy quit on this team -- again -- and walked out on his contract with no prior warning.

I'm willing to believe that Snyder and Cerrato would never have had the guts or savvy to choose Zorn if they hadn't worked with Gibbs for four years. Gibbs made them better.

But Gibbs did not get the most out of the talent he had, wasted a lot of draft picks, brought in some disastrous free agents, and was a weak play caller. If pointing that out is "an insult" then I'm insulting Gibbs for his shortcomings.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Screw McNabb, he is a crybaby and can't acknowledge he is past his prime.

It was a beautiful thing to be a Skins fan in the Linc today handing out fist bumps and high fives to the other Skins fans peppered in a sea of dejected Philly fans.

Posted by: F_Registration | October 5, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

sweet love sics polls

SICWIDIT's RI POLL

1) What do you think now?
a) 10-6


2) Who gets your game ball?
a) Clinton Portis


3) Wha'd ya' thing of the call on 4th and 1
c) We're playing to win!


4) Of the teams on the schedule that looked like "easy" games, which one scares you?
c) 49'ers


5) What do you think of Devin Thomas?
a) Give him time' he'll break out soon


6) Which personnel has proved most successful for Vinny Cerrato?
d) keeping Greg Blache

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

And I forgot Rogers and Springs, Fletcher, A.Carter... and imagine if ST was still around. Holy crap.

(And Gregg Williams D just got torched by a pump n go... seen that before)

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

BONG

BONG

BONG!

Posted by: CrappyWaiter | October 5, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

whatves TE....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Let's let Gibbs be gone with respect and not insult him please!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:10 PM

I'm surprised the Philly fans let you out of the stadium alive to describe the experience. Are you sure you were in Philadelphia and not, say, College Park?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

1) I'll say C and 11-5 right now

2) A & B, Portis cause he does what we all expect Portis to do once again, and Suisham for obvious reasons.

3) I can't answer that.

4) D, definitely the Browns.

5) A, give Thomas some time, wasn't one of his catches today on 3rd down? He'll be okay.

6) A, Zorn to be Wild baby!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

It was a beautiful thing to be a Skins fan in the Linc today handing out fist bumps and high fives to the other Skins fans peppered in a sea of dejected Philly fans.

Posted by: F_Registration | October 5, 2008 9:17 PM

I'm surprised the Philly fans let you out of the stadium alive to describe the experience. Are you sure you were in Philadelphia and not, say, College Park?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how much credit Gibbs should get because Zorn is so anti-Gibbs. I don't think anyone is disrespecting Gibbs, it's just that Zorn is showing the trust in JC and the rest of the players Gibbs didn't have...

No disrespect, but Gibbs seemed like he was in agony with every playcall even in a win. That kind of "tight" mentality rubs off on players...

I thank Gibbs for the consistency and stability, but as Rick Pitino would say...

"Joe Gibbs (Larry Bird) isn't walkin' through that door, Kevin McCale isn't walking through that door"

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs wasnt perfect, for sure, but you know he brought some stability to a franchise in line for the Al Davis award. You have to stop the bleeding before you can move forward, and I think Gibbs did that. I agree he could have done some things better, but at least he operated with accountability, dignity, and respect.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

to TE's first comment about Gibbs, that's just one more thing I completely disagree with you on and I'd like to once again call you a moron. Sorry Gibbs couldn't stay one more year to please you after THE MOST DEVASTATING MOMENT OF HIS CAREER and him SOMEHOW rallying that team after the death of one of the most beloved Skins ever. Sorry you were upset about that!


and to the last one, I wasn't at Philly or anywhere near Philly thank god. I'm in the SC!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Okay, next test is three straight games against bottom-feeder teams. Three straight games a good team should always, always win. Three straight games that Gibbs I teams always took care of. You have to win games like these next three to be considered a real team, to be taken seriously, to be seen as a team that can play into January and be a real threat. Having established something special the past four weeks, we cannot see a letdown over the next three.

I trust Zorn, and Campbell, and Blache, and Fletcher, to keep this team going.

Love this freakin' team.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 5, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs didn't "quit on the team". Gibbs had the brains and balls to walk away because he knew a) he had taken them as far as he could, b) that he was done and c) that Danny would never fire him and only he could make the decision to turn the page and move forward from where he had brought them.

Devin will break out...along with Kelly. Just wait until its 'Tana, along with D Thomas and Kelly instead of ARE and Thrash

O'Line was the hero today.

SFO is the scariest game... late season, long road trip, and they are not bad. O'Sullivan can play.

Very strongly considering traveling to SFO from here (HNL) to catch that game. Any of the West coasters (Nate???) (or east coasters for that matter) gonna travel to the City by the Bay in late December??

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised the Philly fans let you out of the stadium alive to describe the experience. Are you sure you were in Philadelphia and not, say, College Park?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:22 PM


I proudly wore the black and maroon. We were a few hundred strong. The Linc isn't like the Vet. The worse you get is some ahole chants. At least down in the lower section.

As far as the poll, I say 11-5, CP game ball, both we are playing to win and we should have punted, none of those teams though we will probably choke once, give #11 time, Zorn, Fletcher and Blache are tied.


Posted by: F_Registration | October 5, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

i went t 4 straight skins v eagles games at the vet....not as bad as you think.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

to TE's first comment about Gibbs, that's just one more thing I completely disagree with you on and I'd like to once again call you a moron.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:24 PM

Truth,

Being called a moron by you is the same as being called a Democrat by a Republican -- or a thief by Albert Connell.

How are the Georgia Bulldogs doing lately? They still in the hunt for the national championship?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

of course I stopped going b/c I was 0-4...

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I thought Devin Thomas was fine.

He'll be better when he learns that he can't push off and get away with it the way Michael Irvin did for 12 years.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

i went t 4 straight skins v eagles games at the vet....not as bad as you think.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:32 PM

Easy for you to say because no one in his right mind would mess with ChRis LarRy. Of course, not many Eagles fans are in their right minds.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how much credit Gibbs should get because Zorn is so anti-Gibbs. I don't think anyone is disrespecting Gibbs, it's just that Zorn is showing the trust in JC and the rest of the players Gibbs didn't have...

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

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They aren't THAT different. Both were players coaches, spiritual, respectful, but demand your attention and focus. And say for example today, we dominated Time of Possesion, and ran 44 times though we were down by 14 at one point. Gibbs would have teared up a bit looking at the stats sheet.

People forget that by the end of the 05 season, the Skins were walking into games with the mindset 'It doesnt matter what you do today, because at the end of this 60 minutes you are going to be bruised, bloody, and exhausted losers'.

Zorns got the guys sort of doing the same thing right now. I still maintain that Gibbs walked because he would have had to fire his buddy Al Saunders.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

"Truth,

Being called a moron by you is the same as being called a Democrat by a Republican -- or a thief by Albert Connell.

How are the Georgia Bulldogs doing lately? They still in the hunt for the national championship?"


You prove you don't watch college football because yes, we actually are still in the hunt for the National Championship. OU, Texas, and Texas Tech are three of the teams ahead of us and they all play each other. If UGA somehow (which we prolly won't) runs the table and wins the SEC, we will be in the NC regardless of last week's upsetting loss to a very, very good Bama team.


I'd tell you to stick to NFL talk but you really don't know much about that either. Sucks to be you.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm up in Philly, and all these trashy fans are calling for Reid and Mcnabb to go elswhere... I hate these fans almost as mush as I hate the Eagles.

Posted by: noseman4681 | October 5, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

matt, my mindset is that Gibbs left because of how completely insane and emotionally draining last year was. Seriously, at the end of the season I think all fans had to take a huge breath and ask themselves what the hell happened. I couldn't imagine trying to coach that team and being close to all the players and having to tell them to worry about a pointless football game after all that happened last year.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Inspector Preileau sighting on SNF....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Pitts ailing offense looking like its getting healthy in a hurry against Jax.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Jacksonville/Steelers game is interesting...

Winning truly heals all sins...

No more "we shoulda never let Ryan Clark go"

No more "we should never got rid of Champ Bailey for Portis"

No more "we shafted Lavar Arrington".

No more JC is too "dumb" and "slow" to be an NFL QB

No more "we shoulda drafted a DE"

No more "call Bill Cowher"

No more "Cult of Colt"

No more "Zorn is in over his head"

No more "why doesn't our offense look like other NFL teams"

No More "CAMPBELL CAN'T BRING US FROM BEHIND TO WIN THE GAME"

No More "Jim Zorn Inherits a Mess" column from Sally Jenkins. (That s**t looks ridiculous now)

HAIL....

SICWIDIT

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

gibbs rulz end of story..

But I am going to say this...I am glad Grilliams is gone and Blache is our man....our team defense with varied schemes and game planning is a refreshing change from the "my philosophy or the highway" approach!

I have noticed a big difference in the creativity and flexability of the D this year....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs left because of how completely insane and emotionally draining last year was.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:38 PM |

Gibbs left because he realized that the game had passed him by and that he couldn't get the 'Skins back to the Super Bowl. He'd tried everything he could and nothing worked.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

To the Gibbs defenders -
How much of your evaluation is influenced by Gibbs' 3 Super Bowl rings? Not saying that I agree with TE, I'm just curious.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | October 5, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

So Deion is now declaring the Giants as the BEAST of the NFL - and I don't think he is alone in that.

But seriously, they have only played one road game - and that was St. Louis! So beating us (by 9 points) in their first game, and then beating St. Louis...barely beating Cincy at home...and now (severely) beating a Seattle team that does not travel well makes them superior???

Perhaps they are but do these analysts ever look at the schedule?

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 5, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

But I am going to say this...I am glad Grilliams is gone and Blache is our man....

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:42 PM

I've got to believe that Blache must be glad that he decided to stick with it for another year instead of retiring. He must he having the time of his life this year. And even old Buges must be learning a few things. I'd love to hear the two of them talk candidly about the differences between last year and this year.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

"Gibbs left because he realized that the game had passed him by and that he couldn't get the 'Skins back to the Super Bowl. He'd tried everything he could and nothing worked."

IN YOUR OPINION


I'm sorry but taking that team to the playoffs with Todd freaking Collins as the starting QB was pretty impressive to me. You can take your Gibbs hate or dislike and freaking SHOVE IT

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

matt, my mindset is that Gibbs left because of how completely insane and emotionally draining last year was. Seriously, at the end of the season I think all fans had to take a huge breath and ask themselves what the hell happened. I couldn't imagine trying to coach that team and being close to all the players and having to tell them to worry about a pointless football game after all that happened last year.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse
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Could be Could be.

I just think that it was gut check for the team, too, ya know? I mean, the Al Saunders Experiment obviously wasnt working, so if you fire Saunders, what do you go? Bring back to 05 playbook? Would Gibbs call the plays again?

We had the highest paid coaching staff in galactic history and some mega personalities to go with it.

I can buy it was a combination of forces, past, present, and future, the past being your bit, and the future being what I said.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

The defense has been stellar to date. Would like to see more sacks but I think once Taylor gets healthy that will improve.

Posted by: TWISI | October 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

chrislarry i agree re blache... he seemingly plans for each team he faces... adn something tells me that S Springs would have played today if we were facing a big "we need to jam him at the line" receiver such as TO instead of the smaller burner types we faced in filly this week.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, the media slurping giants is a good thing.......who needs the attention.....

LH- I truly view gibbs 2.0 as a glass half full, anf those teams provided some of the funnest times to be a skins fan that we had since 1991...

also you can't deny that positives were reaping now were sewn by gibbs.

in the end, no SB in 2.0 means "failure" but bashing him, without seeing the positives about both his tenure and legacy just seem pointless, bitter and petty.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 5, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I saw the Andy Reid press conference. It looks like he could eat several Jim Zorns for brunch, dude needs to hit the gym. They gotta have one where he works.

Posted by: az_david | October 5, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Lets jsut see how the gints do after tehy have to at least play the iggles and the pokes, let alone on the road.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 5, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs left because he realized that the game had passed him by and that he couldn't get the 'Skins back to the Super Bowl. He'd tried everything he could and nothing worked.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse
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We were 4 out of the last 6 against the Cowboys. After the miserable record Norv, Shotty, and Spurrier racked up, the debate could end right there.

But again, I go back to 05. Moss and Portis both set franchise records, and we won a playoff game with a 6 foot QB who farted dust clouds and creaked when he walked.

This conversation might be very different if Gibbs did not hire Saunders.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW

Who the hell made up the Giants' schedule? That sh*t is ridiculously soft.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 8:57 PM |

I'll ditto cL's poll results except I'll add for
3) I was screaming at the screen to go for it
6) e. all of the above

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are the Superbowl champs, so I gotta give them some respect, but name another team in the NFL that's playing better football right now other than Washington. It's a looooong season so we don't want to jump the gun.

Health is the key to sustaining this run!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I meant to say for Roge's comment that we play the same teams just at different times.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and did I see the return of Poolman? God help us all if I did.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Btw big props to skinz and myself for calling the ARE TD pass...

We have to stop analyzing this team and possibly give out highly valuable info to the opponent cuz obviously these so called experts don't know what's going on here...

Guys, just enjoy this please and not get carried away with advising the fo staff

This IS st. Joes team which is really really ironic cuz it seems like the gm Gibbs did a better job than the coach Gibbs did. Ummmazing.

Mcnaab is so overrated. So is romo and Eli.

But this no respect thing is really getting annoying...how bout an organized flashing via the internets to these experts' web sites?

Posted by: dealer1 | October 5, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I' don't know if I'll come down from this win anytime soon. I am PUMPED! I just hope we don't overlook any of these next 3 teams. Any given Sunday. It's great to be a Redskins fan again.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

not that I have the time to do such a thing...

Also I'm begining to think that Bmitch is a hater...

Posted by: dealer1 | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

btw jasno, how bout den RAVENS?????!!!!

Posted by: dealer1 | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are the Superbowl champs, so I gotta give them some respect, but name another team in the NFL that's playing better football right now other than Washington. It's a looooong season so we don't want to jump the gun.

Health is the key to sustaining this run!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse
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Depends on how you weight the AFC. There are a couple of defenses that would get my attention: PIT and BAL. PITs been really banged up on O, and BAL has the rookie QB, but I believe both teams would be capable of showing up any time anywhere and making a game of it with the best the NFC has to offer.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The Giants are the Superbowl champs, so I gotta give them some respect, but name another team in the NFL that's playing better football right now other than Washington. It's a looooong season so we don't want to jump the gun.

Health is the key to sustaining this run!

Posted by: rickyroge | October 5, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse
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Depends on how you weight the AFC. There are a couple of defenses that would get my attention: PIT and BAL. PITs been really banged up on O, and BAL has the rookie QB, but I believe both teams would be capable of showing up any time anywhere and making a game of it with the best the NFC has to offer.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm just slack-jawed.

Going into Dallas and Philly and winning--man to man, out-smash-mouthing them, shoving CP down their throats and manning up at the line to stop their big guy.

Smash running, sharp passing attack, and a sprinkling of imaginative plays. All fast. Defenses are off balance. JC comes to the line early, has time to look and think, and can dominate. Our third-down percentage is unbelievable--best in league, perhaps?

So often under Gibbs 2.0 it felt like we were battling an implacable 12th man: the clock. We made the clock our enemy. Now it is our friend, our 12th man. This is the big secret Jim Zorn has tried to impart to Jason: a rapid pace grinds down defenses.

We got ourselves a FORMULA FOR VICTORY, and that's a feeling I haven't had since Gibbs 1.0.

Much credit to Gibbs 2.0 for turning a losing culture around, even if he was too old to do more. Now Zorn is building on that foundation.

HTTR

Posted by: farstriker | October 5, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Depends on how you weight the AFC. There are a couple of defenses that would get my attention: PIT and BAL. PITs been really banged up on O, and BAL has the rookie QB, but I believe both teams would be capable of showing up any time anywhere and making a game of it with the best the NFC has to offer.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:18 PM

Don't forget the Titans.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs left because of how completely insane and emotionally draining last year was.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 5, 2008 9:38 PM |

Gibbs left because he realized that the game had passed him by and that he couldn't get the 'Skins back to the Super Bowl. He'd tried everything he could and nothing worked.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse
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TE, I have to respectfully disagree with your analysis of the Gibbs era.

Consider where the franchise was prior to his return and his accomplishments were astonishing. Two playoff appearances including a win at Tampa Bay. Are you serious? Gibbs righted a floundering ship. Yes, we all expected far more based on his previous tenure. But c'mon, man, didn't he change the face of the franchise from laughingstock to respectable opponent? I know I will forever be thankful he returned, willing to sacrifice his legacy for the good of the franchise. Gibbs will always be St. Joe in my book.

Posted by: cosomfla | October 5, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Okay, fantastic win. Amazing, that Gibbs-football wins games when your not missing 3/5 of your o-line and star running back and wide receiver are healthy. Does anyone think we win this came if Jansen, Thomas, Rabach are down or if Tana and CP are gimpy like they were at this point last year? Disrespect all you want but don't forget the circumstances.

Great article from nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80b61f96&template=with-video&confirm=true

Posted by: bangkokben | October 5, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the Titans.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 5, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

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You're right. I was thinking on our schedule when I wrote that, but Tenn is definitly smashing peoples skulls in, too.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Kinda gotta give our D some credit, too. Below is the Opponent by week 5 offensive rank and followed by the offensive points given up (punt returns removed)

1 Giants 16 pts
3 Saints 17 pts (and 7 of those were the ARE fumble)
4 Cowboys 24 pts
5 Cardinals 17 pts
9 Eagles 10 pts

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Is this an inappropriate time to suggest we start Colt Brennan?

Posted by: isnadd | October 5, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

SO missing DC right now! Miss the excitement of when the team wins - but I get to wear my burgundy sweater to work again tomorrow (everyone knew the reason I had it on last Monday). Could wear my jersey (I have a casual dress code at work), but waiting for a SB win to do that - either this year, or next year or the year after that!

Hip Hip Hooray!

Posted by: suzannepdc | October 5, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

In response to some of the comments about Gibbs: I do agree that there were some disappointing moments under Gibbs v2 both on and off the field. However, he brought stability and respect back to the team.

During part the end of the Norv Turner era and the brief stints of Marty and Spurrier the team was really heading in the wrong direction. Lot's of complaining, players not respecting the team, Snyder running around like Napoleon...

Gibbs ended all of that and got the team marching straight again, and for me, that's more important to me than winning with a bunch of guys I don't respect or wouldn't want my kids to emulate.

Did anyone see the comments Chad Johnson just made about how well Cincy played the year everyone was getting arrested, so maybe he should have a drink? Disgusting.

Hail.

Posted by: isnadd | October 5, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

"Rushing yardage tells it all: Washington has 364 yards in the past two games while those scrawny guys from Dallas and Philly combined for just 102. Clinton Portis alone had 145 yards here after 121 in Dallas."

Thats a good old fashioned whoopin.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 5, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs may not have won the Super Bowl during his second stint, and certainly after Weird Al showed up there was a readily apparent difference in the offense's performance. But what Gibbs did is similar to what Vince Lombardi did in his one year stint in 1969. He brought a winning attitude, if not wins themselves.

Also, pretty much the entire makeup of the roster (with the obvious exception of the rookies) is a reflection of Gibbs. I think we can all agree that the second Gibbs stint wasn't as successful as we would like. And, as much as it is hard for me to admit as much about my childhood hero, it looked like if the game hadn't passed him by, certainly his passion for the game had passed him by. But ARE, Griffin, Fletcher, JC, Moss, Portis, Cooley, Springs, Landry, etc...those are all Gibbs's doing.

Credit Gibbs for bringing a winning attitude to DC, for keeping the team together throughout all of last year's turmoil, and for being the primary architect of the roster that is now winning games.

And then look to the future. I knew Jim Zorn would be a great OC, but I never knew he could be a successful head coach. He is proving me wrong every day, and that's awesome. I keep reminding myself that even Norv Turner once started 7-1. But it's fun to watch this team for a change...

Posted by: PDiddy | October 6, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to hate on Ryan Clark, but other than being some sort of horse whisperer to SeanTay, he singlehandedly helped JAX score with a huge missed tackle, spearing penalty, and blown coverage on the TD catch to let JAX take the lead.
Yep, mistake written all over him.

Posted by: daggar | October 6, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

ditto diddy

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Another joeTheFan observation... when was the last time you saw a pass targeting Laron's area of responsibility? I don't recall seeing him at all today, and that usually means that he did his job.

Posted by: daggar | October 6, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Is this an inappropriate time to suggest we start Colt Brennan?

Posted by: isnadd

Funniest post of the week.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | October 6, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

++++Fantastic win. Wow Gibbs football works when your o-line is healthy - who would've thought?

Posted by: bangkokben | October 5, 2008+++


I's not really the same deal, Bang... Zorns' run game involves DECEPTION.

Gibbs just ran people overr with the Counter Trey. Of course the Hogs were huge, and these guys aren't and need better blocking angles, which they get....

I loves me some WCO.

Posted by: Corkczar | October 6, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

ime to negotiate a long-term deal with Jason. And, at the end of the season, with Coach Zorn.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:23 PM

Long term? How about Lifetime?

Posted by: Corkczar | October 6, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Which was the worst "rookie mistake": Thomas's stupid block or Horton's not touching the receiver on the ground? Devin Thomas has cost us more than he's delivered for us. I'm glad Randy Thomas called him out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:46 PM |

You know what? I can live with sins of commission like Thomas's. We used to have WR's who cost us games by tossing their helmets.

I've been on this kid's case a lot, but I think he's a keeper. I think he is going to be a very very good wideout.

Rookies make mistakes. Always have, always will. I wouldn't be as magnanimous if they'd lost. But they didnt'


Posted by: Corkczar | October 6, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Those were all big plays for our opponents, and we still beat them. They could have caused a Gibbs team to fold.

And am I the only one who's noticed that Zorn hasn't called two timeouts in a row to freeze a kicker? I wonder where he learned that?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 5, 2008 8:54 PM

You won't find a bigger Zorn fan here than me, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Gibbs owns three Superbowls. Zorn owns four wins.

Posted by: Corkczar | October 6, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Skins Fans...

An online campaign was created to bring The John Riggins Show back on the radio. The campaign is on the web at http://www.bringriggoback.com

Posted by: kmcguiney | October 6, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Another very good article from Tandler....

http://was.scout.com/2/797938.html

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Moss has so much class. Better than Coles and so far ahead of TO it ain't funny....

Posted by: bioesq | October 6, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

Still feeling giddy about this win over the Eagles... and that's on top of still feeling giddy about the win over the Cowboys... damn, it feels good.

So let's just come on home and take care of business Sunday. No funny stuff, nothing cutesy, stay medium... just a thoroughly dominating win over a very bad team. That's all I ask.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

How bad?

Rams are 30th in offensive yards, 32nd in points scored per game, next to last in defensive yards, tied for last in points allowed per game.

Yeah, yeah, any given Sunday, trap game, etc., but if we're a good team we beat these guys handily. And I think we're a good team right now.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Nate -

* They have a new coach
* We will be playing another former coach from last year who would like to whip our butts.
* They're team has to be hungry


(Someone has to talk up the next opponent since Gibbs isn't here)

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 6, 2008 6:26 AM | Report abuse

4th, I spent the past week moaning about the opposition, how angry the Iggles would be, how dangerous it would be to misunderestimate McNabb and Reid and Johnson, how hard it would be to win this game in their building, etc. So I'm going to save my energy this week.

This team just doesn't seem inclined to get ahead of themselves; it sounds like every one of them just wants to get back to work. And just in case anybody slips up, I think Zorn and Blache will be all over them. And maybe Bugel has a colorful phrase on hand just in case. You know, to keep things medium.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

So much for the vaunted Philly rushing defense, we went in there and smashed them up and down the field.

Zorn is finding weaknesses and then exploiting them, wheather it fits the game plan or not. Remember we had three defensive starters out yesterday and lost Griffin for some of the game.

This team is playing great and will be tough to beat, I agree with Nate they are not going to be aloud to be over confident.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 6, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure others have noted this, but in every game so far it seems to me we've gotten better as the game progressed, both O and D... sure, the players are executing and feeding on each others' success and growing with confidence, but the coaches are winning their chess matches... not just preparation but in-game adjustments.

Now if we can just figure out what's going on with special teams and minimize those gaffes before one of them costs us a game... c'mon Danny (Smith), I believe in ya!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

This may have been mention but I'm too busy (lazy) to review the thread.

I love that Zorn has the balls to go for it on 4th down with the game on the line but I'm not sure if that is a testiment to his boldness or his lack of faith in a rookie punter.

Call me a nervous Nellie but that's going to burn us sooner or later.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 6, 2008 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Also, I was looking at an Iggles blog last night (blastphemy, I know) and I was unaware of how deep the hatred for Reid and McNabb goes up there.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 6, 2008 6:58 AM | Report abuse

*** fantasy f-ball post

4th, bummer about Griese, looks like I'm going to squeeze past you despite my mediocre team having a really lousy week.

Good thing I have a few weeks before my divisional showdown with AL Zeke's squad -- his team is killing it.

*** end f-f-ball post

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

I think that its clear, Danny Smith is great on Kickoffs and KRs. But we have had struggles with punting for a while now. Does anyone know is Smith in charge of everything or is he got other coaches who handle particulars. He seems like a nice guy but if the rookie Punter does not improve this season I think Smith is replaced at some point.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 6, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

***Another FFL post***
What was I thinking benching Big Ben for Ferotte!!
***End post***

Posted by: alex35332 | October 6, 2008 7:04 AM | Report abuse

etrod, it's a long season, but those Philly fans are not going to be happy if they finish last in the division again.

Gotta wonder how long Reid can last... he had a great run, all-time winningest coach for that franchise, over a decade blah blah blah, but it's not like he has a Lombardi to show for it.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if that is a testiment to his boldness or his lack of faith in a rookie punter.

Call me a nervous Nellie but that's going to burn us sooner or later.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 6, 2008 6:56 AM |

It has to do with his boldness. We were on the 45. The punter would have been fine. A 29 yard punt wouldn't be a problem there.

But, yeah, they've given the punter (and I was a huge Brooks supporter) enough time to hang himself. Or enough hang time to leave the building. Or something like that.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 6, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

I have a number of friends who are Philly fans, and they have been fed up with Andy Reid or McNabb for years. Since the supperbowl the team fell apart and no one seems to want to take responsibility. My friends who tend to blame Andy Reid its for his anti-run game and his lack of WR development, those who blame McNabb its because he has no accuracy.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 6, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

t_e, I don't think they're going to make a rash decision on the kid punter after five games. He's learned the hard way that kicking to fellows like Reggie Bush and DeSean Jackson is a lousy idea.

(He's also learned the hard way that, even though he's a heckuva nice guy and a great story, Reed Doughty cannot be counted upon to make a tackle in the open field.)

They invested a draft pick in this kid and then dumped Frostie for him, and we're only five games in... even if he stays at the bottom of the league statistically, I say they're sticking with Durant, barring a total meltdown.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

Original_etrod, Zorn said Portis called the 4th and 1 play. Said he drew up the formation but that CP called for it.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 6, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, where's "Sports Guru" now?

You know he will come on here with some BS about waiting until the next game. All the hate for JC needs to stop. The kid is showing he belongs.

Posted by: icetotalpackage | October 6, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

MCNABB DISSES SKINS
Don't know if anyone else posted this... too many posts to read.

"I was embarrassed these last two weeks," McNabb said. "I mean, we lost to two teams we shouldn't have lost to... Not taking anything away from them, but there is no way that team [Redskins] is better than us."

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20081006_Eagles_knocked_down_by_Redskins.html

I don't care whether McNabb respects the Skins, but I find it telling how arrogant the Eagles and Cowboys were after their defeats. Something about the Skins rubs them the wrong way. I hope they keep underestimating Skins.

Posted by: chris_zz | October 6, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Message to Cindy/WAPO

It's time..
It's been a very long time..
It's time for the TK Bandwagon..

Posted by: brianlee720 | October 6, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

love from moseley on espn, including calling mcnabb out as a fool for those comments,

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-4-31/Redskins-take-two-for-the-road.html

Posted by: chrislarry | October 6, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

jm220, just a few days ago Sports Guru was up here trying to make nice by saying sort of vaguely nice things about Campbell's play of late, but of course he tacked on a caveat about not "reverting to previous form."

For the guy not to be celebrating our young QB at this point just seems nuts to me, but it seems Guru's sitting he's choosing to see a glass half full, and he's choosing to keep his doubts (and something more, something that seems a lot like hatred) at close hand for the slightest misstep.

Or maybe he's just a troll, getting off on thumbing his nose at us. Or maybe it's a combination of the two. Either way, what a bitter, sad way to go through life...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

This may have been mention but I'm too busy (lazy) to review the thread.

I love that Zorn has the balls to go for it on 4th down with the game on the line but I'm not sure if that is a testiment to his boldness or his lack of faith in a rookie punter.

Call me a nervous Nellie but that's going to burn us sooner or later.

Posted by: Original_etrod | October 6, 2008 6:56 AM

Call me crazy (and I love Gibbs) but I'd rather get burned once or twice going for it on 4th and 1 then get burned time and time again playing it conservative and then getting beat for it.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 6, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

I'll mention it to Tony again, but last time I did (in previous years), he's said no because it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

Posted by: CindyBoren | October 6, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

brianlee, you should submit that as a Q for Cindy's chat this morning:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/10/03/DI2008100301281.html

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

So much for submitting it for the chat... Cindy-on-the-spot already taking care of business this morning...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 6, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

I'll mention it to Tony again, but last time I did (in previous years), he's said no because it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

Tell him this Skins team could be once-in-a-lifetime as well!

thanks

Posted by: brianlee720 | October 6, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

beep beep; time to get your H-back on. and steinz will have a post shortly on the egging of the bus and cooley's initial idea for retaliation....

Posted by: CindyBoren | October 6, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

In response to Chris Larry:

1. I'll go with 12-4, but we could be even better. One game at a time baby.
2. A
3. C (I like playing to win and being aggressive, the call took balls and confidence. I love it)
4. A & D: I don't like the Al Saunders Revegne factor. By the time we play the Browns, they may be playing better. Both teams got some studs on offense.
5. A
6. C: can't say enough about what a Pro and stud he is on and off the field. Every week he makes big plays, and seems like he could play for 5 more years! Off the field he provides the type of steady and veteran leadership you need to go deep into the post season. He is such a beast.

Posted by: marleyb313 | October 6, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

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